Watch What Happens Live with Joe Giudice and Joe Gorga is starting at 9 pm which explains why my DVR schedule is so fried. Why didn’t anyone tell Juicy (as I will refer to him for the rest of this post) to fix his shirt? Andy calls him Joe JEW DEE CHAY. Even though they have given up on that pronunciation and gone back to their original pronunciation.
Andy said he dreamt that Teresa was vice president of the United States. He is finally on her email list so they have been emailing. She said she would be watching Joe on WWHL tonight from prison. Juicy sends his love via the camera and says her brother wanted him to kiss him before the show. He told Joe to kiss his ass. They both laugh.
Andy brings up the pronunciation of Giudice and points out that even Teresa on her prison calls says it the original way again.
Joe Gorga really is hot. I’m just saying. Andy makes him play a game with body parts of either Tre or Melissa and guess where they are of his sister or his wife? He gets them all right.
Andy asks what the toughest event to get through without Tre has been. He says every day is tough. He has to keep the girls busy. Juicy admits that the younger girls know Tre is in prison.
Next week Tre calls and says that she had Gia tweet her fans for her and the prison guards pulled her out and made her submit to a cavity search because they thought she had a cell phone. Wow.
Are the Gorgas and Giudices closer now? Yes.
Why was Tre so mad at Joe before she checked in? He says his sister wanted to get some things off her chest.
Gorga, do you blame Juicy for your sister being in jail? Yes, of course. Who am I going to blame (I dunno, how about Teresa?) Juicy says he doesn’t know why he would blame him but everyone has their own opinion on things, ya know? Andy moves on to another question and Juicy interrupts and says he would blame Gorga for her going to jail because he came on the show and talked a lot of crap. He would blame Gorga more than himself. WOW. Andy changes course and goes to commercial. There is tension in the air as Juicy says “If you got a little fire going and you throw some gasoline on, it doesn’t make it any better.
Someone asks about all the lavish furnishing in the giant house and asked what happened to the downsizing plan. Andy asks if he has any plans to sell the house. Juicy says not right now. We are downsizing some stuff. We got rid of a lot of stuff…so… #clueless
A caller asked Joe why Gia said she didn’t feel comfortable with Melissa? Joe sort of dances around the question saying that there have been a lot of family issues in the past with Tre and Melissa and things are coming around, it’s just going to take a little bit more time. My opinion is that Teresa still hates Melissa with an even greater passion than before and as Joe said above the both blame the Gorgas for them going to jail. Gia knows this and doesn’t want to betray her mother. They flash to Melissa in the audience looking very distraught.
Someone asks Juicy if he is afraid Tre won’t wait for him to get out. He says we will just have to wait and see.
Has Melissa been to Danbury? No.
Have the Manzos or Lauritas reached out since Tre’s incarceration? No. The only people from RHONJ who have are Dina who has picked up Audriana who is her godchild and taken her to the city a few times to go to American Girl. She calls a lot. Also Rino has called a lot to check on them.
Another game. Which they quickly aborted because it bombed.
A ton of tweets rolled in angry that Joe didn’t take responsibility for Tre being in prison earlier in the show. Joe says he has taken responsibility for that since the beginning. Joe talks about visitation and says you can go from 8 am to 3 pm and he has been yelled at by the guards for inappropriate touching!
The poll question was who would win in an arm wrestling match between the two Joes? Gorga won but only by 51% I say Gorga. They arm wrestle and of course they cheat like crazy and no winner is declared.
Why is it the gOrgas fault that they went to prison?
It’s not, but I do think they were feeding information to investigators. They still did the crimes, but probably hard to forgive your SIL. Teresa forgives Joey because he’s famly. Just my personal theory.
Your personal theory is spot on. They did give info to investigators, as well as taking pro-active measures such as calling the IRS. They also said and did a lot of things around down to direct heat Teresa & Joe’s way. Meanwhile The Gorgas are in the garbage business with the mob in NJ and EVERYBODY knows so those in glass houses…
Source??
I call BS!
Oh please….. Even if that were true if anyone was pointing at them and they weren’t doing anything wrong there would have been nothing to find. It’s not anyone’s fault but their own for the situation they’re in.
You must think federal investigators are to stupid to notice taxes are not filed for years.
Thank, Ill try that next year.
color me surprised that the Giudice’s still live in the macmansion and apparently whether and when to sell it is up to them.
A judge rejected the Guidice’s mortgage challenge on the house. He said the challenge had no legal standing. The bank is now able to continue with the foreclosure. This was just a ploy to remain in a house that fraud built.
I doubt the bank can get anyone to buy that house without a huge discount. I feel bad for all the subcontractors who may not of been paid.
Ooop….foreclosure challenge.
No one wants to buy the house, it’s been on the market five times. He is making it seem like it’s his choice.
It’s not up to them
They had it on the market 5 times and no one wants to buy it.
The look Melissa had on her face when the caller brought up that Gia is uncomfortable was telling. I think Melissa would like to be the selfless, good, aunt in this story but the problem is no one wants her to be.
No one wants to give Melissa air time. Really can’t blame them for that.
As shallow as Melissa is – Joe Gorga for that matter – I think those two do take Joe’s status as godfather seriously, and genuinely love those girls, especially Gia. I just think that it is a shame that Teresa can’t see that.
The real Melissa was shown the first season she appeared. Remember how awful she was? She doesn’t give a damn about Theresa or her children.
I don’t like Theresa, but Melissa is a close second.
Yes melissa loves being the selfless, good Aunt when the cameras are on her. Truth is she hasnt written Teresa 1 letter in 10 months.
Come on, honestly, would you write to someone who doesn’t want to hear from you? That hates you? Do you regularly write to people who don’t like you?
I can’t stand any of these people but I think with Melissa, she’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.
Are the the Trehuggers on the loose? I mean come on folks you can not compare the amount of venom Melissa spewed to the amount Tre did. Tre is the most self centered, ignorant, vicious person on the RH franchise. She is reaping what she and Juicy sowed and too stupid to realize it.
Wow, still zero accountability. Unreal.
Blows my mind how anybody can insinuate it’s anyone’s fault but the people who signed their names to the fraudulent documents, took the money, and then misled the courts. Be adults, seriously. Other people may have contributed to you getting caught, but you did the crime you’re getting caught for.
Nobody can rat you out if you haven’t done anything wrong. No one to blame but yourself here. The stupidity of their decisions, even for criminals, is staggering.
I think Joe Giudice did try to take sole responsibility but the courts wouldn’t accept it. At the reunion I noticed Tre had difficulty even looking at her brother and I think there was resentment there that meds could not conceal. I don’t think it’s a matter of placing blame on the wrong party, more a matter of recognizing that most likely her brother and his wife were so damn jealous that not only did they come on the show with promises to “take her down”, they snitched on her husband as well. Wakiles probably did too, judging from Rich’s tasteless comments last season and prior.
No need for anyone to snitch. It was all shown on TV for years.
No snitching, the paper trail with false information, bankruptcy papers with false info and not filing taxes got them.
If the Gorgas were questioned it was by Federal agents that no one should lie to.
I doubt they knew anything factual about Guidice’s business by that time.
Exactly! No one told them to falsify anything, they did it on their own to maintain a lifestyle they really could not afford. If either Gorga had lied to fedral investigators when questioned they would have been sitting in prison with them
scatty, perfect summation. tre will never forgive Melissa, and she should not.
joe is her brother; and I think she does what she needs too. for her parents sake.
Melissa has done nothing wrong, why do you blame her?
I don’t get the source of this information. It’s been a long time but if memory serves,
the Guidices were being investigated years before the show began-Joe failed to pay income/state taxes and lied on Loan documents-ALL before they began participating in the show. Joe had been involved in litigation with a former partner-Joe forged his name on what I believe were refinance documents and pulled out the money for himself. These people put themselves in the hole they’re in-to blame anyone else is enabling them. I live about 20 minutes away from these people and there were many articles in local newspapers about all the people the Guidice’s ripped off-not just the stores but people who worked for them and worst of all families who gave Joe their insurance money to fix their homes after they were horribly damaged by Hurricane Sandy. Joe, hired unlicensed plumbers, electricians etc who then performed shoddy, sub-standard work, often failing to finish the job and took ALL the money these people had been given-All of them lower income families. To blame Melissa and Joe is bullshit. The Guidice’s have always done everything they could to blame everything and anything on anyone but themselves-they are deluded grifters.
I don’t think all the legal wrangling was over at the time they were shooting. They are still in the house. I can tell by homes near me, nothing hurts the value and downfall of the structure like a house being empty. I doubt that house will be easy to unload at almost any price. It looks like an industrial or commercial structure that had European style doo dads added to look like a McMansion.
Yes, in some ways they are doing the bank a favor – and a big house like that would be hard to unload. I don’t know if it is legally possible, but the bank might be smarter in charging them rent. Plus, what ever they are saving in rent (because how in the hell are they going to get a mortgage on a house) can go towards paying off what they owe.
People talk about the expensive stuff in their house – most of that would have been paid for before they were indicted – and the “street” or auction value of the stuff at auction would be small. I am surprised that they didn’t have the TVs, etc. auctioned off. (Of course, their stuff could have been auctioned off, and the famiy could have bought some of their stuff)
I stopped reading after the whole doing the bank a favor thing…. felonies were committed against the bank. Not favors,
No – I know that – but the value the bank will get out of the house is being preserved by their being in the house. They actually could be like some of the houses I’ve seen – strip all the fixtures, or trash it.
Hey… I’m finally off the cough medicine and wine tastes good again. After two weeks. I might be a little drunk.
They purchased a lot if it on credit and defaulted in the payments.
Sigh. I get that. Do you know how much of a hit banks can take on foreclosed upon homes when the people trash them, strip them, don’t do maintenance? Hell… LANDLORDS can take a hit when people finally leave when they don’t pay rent for months (eviction is VERY difficult no matter the circumstances).
(I can’t believe I’m fucking defending banks)
Neither can anyone else. Your doorknob assertions are absurd. You should probably save your energy trying to prove that that the Giudices did the banks any favors. You’re just making yourself look like an idiot and you’re not going to convince anyone here.
You are right… they aren’t doing favors for the bank. drunken wrong choice of word. But on speculation as to why the bank hasn’t kicked their ass out – they are low risk of trashing the place, and the bank isn’t going to sell that beast any time soon.
Letting them film there when they get 25% of their Bravo income is fiscally smart.
::hic::
In the entire mortgage fraud scheme, the last people I’m going to feel sorry for are the big banks. They were key players in this nationally and got off with minimal punishment. That’s not defending the Giudices, just saying I’m not going to shed a tear for the banks. The bank will eventually kick them out. It can take years for that to happen during a foreclosure. In that time, at least they appear to be maintaining the house, which is better than what happens in a lot of these cases.
Listening to Joe and Teresa talk about themselves, how they think/feel about their felony convictions and how they still live over the top has left me feeling disgusted.
WWHL with the Joe’s was insightful on how not taking responsibility kills family relationships.
Melissa is a bitch. Gia should feel uncomfortable around all four of them.
Will the Gorgas please get caught too?
Just because you dislike them does not mean they did anything wrong. If you think the feds have not looked at them, that would be naive, I would not bu surprised if the whole family, bth branches hve not been scrutinized by the IRS, et al. From my perspective, Melissa is nor more a bitch than Tre is.
Agree.
Agree as well. You know the Feds looked at how far this went thru the family as well as any business partners they had over the period.
Correction…how far this ‘may’ have went into family or others.
Why do some of you blame Melissa for Teresa being in prison?
Teresa lied to the Judge.
Melissa did not know Guidice taxes were not filed or they lied on forms.
I assume she was never contacted by the Feds due to not wanting the Guidices to be warned. Feds had the paper work.
Gorgas taxes are apparently paid.
So why would Melissa go to jail?
Disliking a HW doesn’t equal her being guilty of anything.
Joe and Tre spent large amounts of CASH, that is when the Feds became interested as we all did.
Undeclared money anyone?
Teresa’s hate of Melissa has damaged her entire family’s relationships and Tre does not care or see. Teresa’s blames Melissa for everything.
Green-eyed monster.
Agree that Tre blames Melissa for everything …and it all started with Melissa ‘stealing’ her brother away from her. She was the apple of her brothers eye until she wasn’t when he found someone to love and ‘she’ took him from her. Too many weird and innapropriate things about that scenario that only a therapist should address.
Watching the show and wwhl because, train wreck, can’t stop watching. My opinion is the jewdeechees needed the money and needed to stay relevant even more. The poor girls, that’s hard to watch, even milania looked sad. Here’s betting the next season all the claws come out and it’s WW 457883156 billion between Tre and the Gorgas. I need a 12 step program stat.
Is there any proof that the Gorga’s snitched or gave nfo to the Feds or is that just some some stuff that Tre fans created?
The snitching stuff is just speculation. I think Teresa was just paranoid at who could have betrayed her and since she has always hated Melissa, Melissa got the blame. I don’t understand all the Melissa hate online. She’s one of the more enjoyable attention whores for me.
I don’t get the hate, and I don’t get those who tweeted about how they “sobbed” tonight watching the show. Seriously? I can be the biggest crybaby at times… but not going to sob hearing Teresa’s voice. She did this to her kids. If she didn’t, her husband certainly did… not her brother or sister in law. 1
As a perimenopausal woman who has been up all night sobbing through UK Xfactor. I will say I never even felt a tinge of a reason to cry for these people. Not even the little five year old tarted up in makeup for TV cameras like a street walker. I was unmoved.
Lord!!! If I were Melissa I would be afraid. Teresa is going to try to “get back” at Melissa somehow. All of the people on NJ have been at least a little bit crazy. Teresa is very crazy, as well as evil, stupid and thoroughly convinced of her own intellectual superiority, as is her moron husband. Really bad combo.
Oh damn, TT… if crying at stuff like the UK XFactor clips means I’m pero menopausal, I’ve been that way since birth. Oh, and so was my maternal granddad, bless his tough guy heart that could cry at the drop of a hat when it came to a movie or his baby girl (me). Hell, Susan Boyle’s first clip makes me a wet sobbing mess every time.
The Guidice girls want me to use some tough love, not the tear ducts.
I keep having the picture in my head from I think the first season, of Joe standing at the doorway while the furniture is being delivered with that wad of cash in his hand. Everybody knows that you pay BEFORE delivery. Besides what cement mason / pizza maker has that much cash & that kind of house AND puts it on TV ? Even if he was going to tip the deliverers it wasn’t going to be that amount of hundies. I remember telling my hubby to come look at the next dummy going up the river and sure enough . . . .
“… come look at the next dummy going up the river …” LMAO!! So true — I thought the same thing when I saw that scene.
Who allegedly blamed the Gorgas for the legal problems they had? Teresa? I wouldn’t give any credibility to what that whack job says. The only people incarcerated are the ones who committed the crimes… not Joe nor Melissa.
Here’s another good one … blaming Melissa for not visiting Teresa in prison, when the truth of the matter is Teresa has not approved Mellisa to have visiting privileges.
Teresa still holds so much hate and jealousy towards the Gorgas and never ever owns up to any blame for her own wrongdoings. Still the same as she’s always been.
Lots of SIL’s despise each other……..
When the Gorges came on the show ” it was to take Teresa down”. They focused on her and Joes financial problems, which viewers did not know about. Melissa said in her talking head ” we pay our bills”. The Gorgas and Wakiles had a dinner with an accountant where they discussed the Guidice money problems. Melissa talked to Monica Chacon at the fashion show where Joe Guidice being sued was brought up. Etc They came on specifically to take her down and for Melissa to take over her spot which she coveted. That’s why they feel betrayed by a brother and sister in law that came on the show not to be a fake fabulous family but to take over RHONJ and any damage they did to Teresa and her family was just icing on the cake.
Madashell- You took the words right out of my mouth….The dinner scene was very telling and I recognized a few faces at the table who I grew up with. That’s why a certain someone stood out to me and had me wondering about the connection ….Joe Gorga nor Wakile seem like the sort of guys to hang out with him……and that is a compliment.
The conversation at the dinner table was mainly centered on Teresa and her money troubles, laughing at the auction at her house. Family doesn’t do that to family- on television no less.
It was common knowledge back then Guidices were not paying their bills.
Gossiping and curiosity over how someone can afford something does not equal bank fraud, faing to file tax returns (years) or document forgery.
Gorgas did NOT know about that.
The lies on bankruptcy papers (crime) is what began the investigators looking deeper into the Guidice financials.
Gorgas love the Guidices, they fight but never this.
I can only assume but I think Joe giudice thinks when Melissa allegedly broke into their house years ago retrieved docs to give to Kim G. Which lead the feds to look at their finances with a magnifying glass. I remember Joe gorga saying Joe guidice taught him everything he knows and think they too have fudged the line on their finances as well (allegedly). Melissa and her sisters wanted to be on the show so badly they promised to take the guidices down! So I believe that is why Joe giudice said what he did! Which is crazy ! No one put a gun to his head and said to sign papers and fraud the banks !! I don’t feel sorry for them at all. They have no one to blame but themselves ! It amazes me that the judge let them do their terms so that one parent is home for the kids ! Can’t see someone who is not in the public eye getting that kind of treatment !
When did Melissa “allegedly” brake into the Giudice’s house? I really would like to know the source of that allegation. That’s a pretty defaming thing to insinuate.
When Gorga was asked if he blamed Joe, he just should have simply said “No” and left it at that.
This was uncomfortable to watch. I can’t even look at Juicy. He makes me ill.
When I was a virginal RHNJ watcher, I recall a man approaching Joe G. during a filmed party. He said hey Joe, remember me? You still owe me …
Joe arrogantly blew him off.
At the time I thought the guy was rude to interrupt Joe.
NOW I see the truth about those gypsies.
( I will probably get flak for saying gypsy )
Oh, and thanks for the recap,I wouldn’t like to see the program.
Why did you even say gypsy then? Play on their weirdly-pronounced last name?
I think it was very unnecessary to use a slur like that. Interesting post about the party tho!!!
I am amazed at some of the outlandish comments defending Tre and Joe and hating on the Gorgas. Why can’t Tre and Joe just fade away? Oh right, they have no consciousness or shame.
Wow. These comments are much more interesting than the show itself.
This was a hard show to watch. It was beyond apparent that Joe Guidice didn’t want anything to do with Joe Gorga. Also, I know I’m in the minority, but I can’t stand Melissa. She’s another one who takes no responsibility for her part in things, and always tries to act like she’s so sweet and innocent. Joe Gorga really did marry his sister. Lol At least with Melissa though, I don’t think she really believes that in her own head, unlike Teresa who truly believes all her own bullshit.
On a separate note, I will never forget the first season that the Gorga’s were on, and Joe Guidice said to Joe Gorga “I taught you everything you know about “the business””. It was in the context of talking about them having money. This was long before any of this came out of course, but something about the way he said it always stuck with me. That’s all. 🙂
The only ones to blame for the fall of Shack of Giudice is Joe & Teresa! Period. Filing the bankruptcy was their fatal mistake. The sheer ignorance of those two is what sank their dingy. They couldn’t spell *forensic audit* if it was on cue cards in front of them. To blame the Gorgas is hilarious…who, by the way, are not too far behind. Melissa…opening a boutique…ROFL?