It’s time to beat the dead horses some more on Real Housewives of Orange County. Does Brooks have cancer? When will Jim divorce his current model of wife? Is Meghan still a cunt? What’s going on with Shannon and Vicki? Oh, boy. I can hardly wait to rejoin this Aries party, already in progress.
Tamra and Vicki are fighting about Brooks. Vicki is ready to just leave with Brooks. I don’t blame her. Tamra says that Brooks accused her of being a shit stirrer who spreads rumors! WOW! I’d sure Brooks for that Tamra. Oh wait, your whole storyline every fucking season is to talk shit and spread rumors. You have been doing it all night at this party. Then you accuse Brooks of lying every time he opens HIS mouth. That’s rich.
Heather pulls Vicki aside and tells her that everyone has talked about Brooks diagnosis. Heather tells Vicki that Brooks new doctor is her cellulite doctor. Vicki tries to explain that the treatment he is getting from that doctor is nutritional. He is trying to build his body back up to a healthy place before he tries chemo again. Heather says that she is worried that Brooks is being duped. Meanwhile, Terry is drilling down on Brooks about his drinking. Heather is now demanding to see lab results as well. What kind of friends are these people. I’ve never asked any of the people I know who have fought cancer to show their lab results. That is such an obscene request of anyone to make.
Vicki and Brooks leave. 
Then all of the bitches dump on Shannon. Meghan tells Shannon that Vicki said she never asked Shannon for her help. Heather says she changed the story on the new doctor. Which is true, Vicki change her story. Vicki’s stories are inconsistent. Shannon says that if Brooks is lying, then Vicki knows. Tamra thinks that Vicki would not be involved in the lie.
Another day, Tamra stops by to talk to Vicki. Tamra apologizes to Vicki for getting into it with Brooks. Vicki says that she should never have said anything to her about what Jim said to Brooks. Duh! Why would Vicki trust Tamra with any information. Tamra basically says that she is starting to doubt whether Brooks has cancer. Vicki says she doesn’t want to discuss Brooks with any of them anymore. Vicki’s good friend Tamra goes straight to Meghan to repeat their entire private conversation.
Shannon and David have a brief scene that isn’t about David cheating. Shannon wants to get together with Vicki and talk to her. Shannon says she through an Aries party because they are both Aries. She is pissed that Vicki just left the party without at least saying goodbye. She is also pissed that he won’t go to any of the doctors that she has recommended.
Heather and Terry go to dinner. Heather says that she is going to go to lunch with Lisa Rinna for tips on selling her brand on TV. We quickly move on to talk about the new house. Heather had her mom do a concept drawing for an etching. It seems a bit unsophisticated. Heather asks Terry’s opinion and then gets pissed at him for not liking it. So they fight. Heather feels unappreciated, Terry feels unheard. I feel bored listening to their manufactured problems designed so they can talk about what a huge role Heather has in building the mausoleum or whatever it is with the porte-cochère and eleventy billion bathrooms they insist we look at each week.
I am out of fast forwarding options because I skipped over the Meghan plays mommy scenes. I guess this commercial is more interesting though. But it was the long one around the forty mark outtake.
Tamra takes Ryan and his gun-toting wife and their kids to see the house she and Eddie paying for them to live in. He has criticisms about everything.
Heather and Lisa Rinna meet for lunch. They were in the same acting class sixteen years ago. Lisa says not to follow any of the rules of sales or acting and just be yourself and improvise. Now they have a whole lunch for Heather to talk about Heather and how unappreciated she is. Because, Heather. Lisa happily plays supportive BFF to Heather’s egotistical soliloquy.
The very last minutes of the show, Shannon meets for lunch with Vicki. That means we will get straight to the catfight. Vicki says that between the death of her mother and Brooks cancer, she doesn’t have the strength to deal with negativity. So that is why she left the party. She just doesn’t want to be in non-supportive environments. Shannon says she has been her strongest supporter and now she is in a bad position because people keep coming to her putting her in the middle of things. Shannon says she doesn’t understand why Brooks didn’t want to see her doctors. Vicki doesn’t understand why Shannon doesn’t get that Brooks has his own doctors. Vicki says she should call Brooks and ask him why he didn’t go. Shannon asks for medical reports. Vicki begs for Shannon to drop the subject and perhaps inquire about how she is doing. Vicki says she is having a nervous breakdown. She could use some support. Shannon keeps going on with the Brooks stuff.
And we are right back where we started the episode.
Next Week: More Terry and Heather on their Evine stuff. Tamra crank calls the show. Because that is the kind of friend Tamra is. Which explains why we have been told ten times that they will know in the first fifteen minutes if the product line is a success. Apparently, we are going to blame Tamra for this line failing. Is there really a line? Can we see the documentation to prove that? Also, Brooks and Vicki sit down with Shannon to talk about his most recent PET Scan. It doesn’t seem to go well but Ladies of London started taping and I missed what happened.
OMG. I used the word cunt eleventy-billion times watching this episode. Just disgusting….And my opinion is that Vicki is one of those people (like me) who is really good at focused business stuff and a total twit sometimes in real life. I think with her Mother’s passing and this shit with her ingrate bitch daughter and psycho son-in-law layered on top of the Brooks cancer hell she is mixing up her stories. I really don’t think it’s deliberate in all cases – I think she looks at chemo appts and doctor appts as interchangeable terms. Right or wrong I do not believe she is in on any grand plan. WTF would she gain? Air time? Christ – she’s half the show between her issues – she doesn’t even need the Brooks shit. That’s fodder for the coven of cunts that make up the rest of this cast. Mother of God I hate these women…Meghan is a reprehensible cunt. It’s the best I can do without inventing a new word worse than cunt.
Well I am glad someone else said what I was thinking about Breanna and Ryan, I think she makes all those trips to OK just to make sure Breanna isn’t getting the chit beat out of her. I really believe this has Vicki stressed and its just not addressed because Breanna is very good at cutting her mother off. and by off I mean not letting her see her grandkids.
It is almost like Vickie is scared of Ryan the way she looked at him at that dinner about letting her move the kids by her so Breanna could enjoy her meal. I think there is much more behind Ryan than has been shown. He comes across as a mean ass to me. I also think Breanna has confided in Vickie about Ryan being an ass and now she is afraid it will come out in public so she lets Ryan run their life. The way he liked being ‘isolated’ in OK freaked me out.
So, true!! I found it. Odd how Brianna & Ryan kept saying they had no friends in OK & didn’t know anyone. I lived in OK & was shocked at how kind everyone there was. People there went out of there way to welcome you. Plus he’s in the military & she said she works at 2 hospitals. I think Ryan just does not want her to have any friends. That’s why Brianna is so concentrated on Brooks, it shuts Vicki down about Ryan.
Yes, Ryan has a FRIGHTENING temper which both Brianna & Vicki seem to fear! For two intelligent, educated women, it boggles my mind why they would be okay with his behavior. After the horrific way he went after that poor older woman at Vicki’s Christmas party for putting her feet up, who knows what he’s capable of off-camera. Brianna should take her mother’s help and move back to OC where she’ll at least have some support!
I feel badly for BOTH Brianna and Vicky in the Ryan situation. Vicky’s admitted to being in abusive relationships and probably feels some responsibility for her daughter ending up in one. Brianna will wake up one day, I hope soon.
And PTSD from tornado shelter hiding
I appreciate the re-cap because I have quit watching OC. I really despise three of the participants, and I don’t think I even need to name them. Tamra and Meghan are two of them, however.
@momoffourkids, I agree with you about Ryan. He does come across as a psycho. And Tamras’ son acts like one also.Tamra and Vicki act like they are terrified (maybe that is too strong of a word) of these guys. I strongly dislike Meghan. (that’s a better word than hate) Lol
Megan called the doctor he had his PET scan done with, they say that service is not provided. Bc Megan.
Sorry. I typed so fast I forgot no text speak. Please let me pass this one time. ?
Yeah I couldn’t believe Meghan called ANOTHER doctor of his. She sucks and she’s a moron. Most of the time a PET scan (or any imaging test) isn’t done at the doctor’s office. It’s done at a hospital or separate facility equipped to do those kinds of tests. So if she called his doctor’s office and asked if they do PET scans, they will say no. Doctors write the order for the scan. They don’t do the scan. Radiology techs do and a radiologist evaluates the scan and writes a report up that is sent to the doctor that ordered the scan. Meghan knows nothing about the medical field and needs to shut up.
Absolutely correct. I had a PET scan done at the hospital. It was in a trailer that was positioned outside the hospital, and a LIFT elevated me into the trailer.
Not that it really matters, but I had a PET scan at my M.D.’s office. I was a bit surprised that I wasn’t sent to a different facility to have it done, but it was right there in a separate room, so it does happen.
Meghan is that type of moron I love to hate, and that is the moron that thinks they’re very smart.
I love Heather and Terry. Terry is my favorite househusband. I’m over the rest of the bullshit with this season.
Me too. Little petty fights like that is more normal – not fights over whether or not someone has cancer.
I also thought Heather approached Vicki the right way – she wasn’t screaming at least, and she did try to give Vicki other reasons for the stories being really off than Brooks is a liar. Funny how Tamra went to Vicki to tell her what was going on “as her friend” AFTER Heather already laid out all the cards.
Oh – and I find it kind of gross that Shannon now thinks Vicki would absolutely know that Brooks is lying or is scamming people. Like she knew the instant David cheated. ::eye roll::
Um…. also, was some of this editing out of order? Didn’t Hayley already have her prom?
I was confused about the prom thing too-lately I fall asleep while watching TV at night and thought I missed something. I hope Meghan et al are gone next season.
I’m disappointed in Shannon the last few episodes. She’s really been throwing Vicki under the bus. After last season when Vicki stood by her, Shannon is now perfectly happy to discuss the Brooks-faking-cancer crap on camera when Vicki CLEARLY does not want to. I had thought their friendship was genuine, but maybe not.
I know it’s not the popular opinion, but I also like Heather (whereas something about Terry really rubs me the wrong way). I think viewers forget many of the scenes are director driven & in her talking heads more often than not she’s being asked questions (we’re not privy to) about her “mausoleum”. 😉
It may be her NY vibe (which is often confused with bitchiness). I get it.
I honestly don’t think we know enough about Heather or Terry to like or dislike either one of them personally. They are both playing characters for the cameras. They are long time reality show actors. Terry has been doing this for over ten years. Way back since the days of The Swan.
I won’t watch OC since the beginning of this season and all the fights between these women.
Women in a group or just two of us, do not go at each other like these women do. It’s not natural or normal. It’s disturbing women will behave like they do to be on TV.
I’ll read here or skip read but I’m done watching OC and Atlanta.
I have to finish this season, but I think this is my last. I’ll never watch Atlanta again.
I wont be watching Atlanta. I cannot stand Cynthia & Peter. I get anxiety just thinking about these bitches.
I think they would if you found out every single thing a person says about you eaxh and every tine ur around eaxh other.
I saw Heather and Terry selling their Consult Beaute (horrible name!) on Evine over the weekend. She seemed like herself, but he seemed really weird and wooden. It was strange for a guy who is on TV all the time. I couldn’t tell how the product was doing, but it wasn’t getting much help from Terry. Occasionally he’d wake up and talk, and then he’d go back to staring.
Thanks for the recap, Tamara!
Some people cant sell. I think Heather could do it by herself. I noticed Heather has a very sexy look this season, and it really suits her.
Consult Beaute – reminiscent of Gretchen Christine Beaute. 😉
That’s what I thought too
This season seems extremely long. Next week he shows the PET scan and Meghan calls the office to check because well
Meghan. I just have no words for her. Regardless of what the situation is, it’s none of her business. I hate the Vicki hasn’t had time to really grieve and her friend’s suck for ganging up on her
That’s funny, when Vicky was telling Gretchan she shouldn’t be on the show while dating someone with cancer and getting all In her business as Vicky does with everyone else that was fine. I agree people should just ignore them. But they’re on a REALITY TV SHOW Vicky constantly has opinions about everyone else. You reap what you sow. Had she not been passing judgement on Meghan, she wouldn’t be hell bent on proving them wrong.
The difference her is that Gretchen joined a show while her fiance was dying. Vicki has been on this show for 7 years (maybe more?). Good or bad it is part of her life and who she is now. This happened during filming.
Why pick on Ryans gf for carrying a gun?
Who was picking on her?
She was referred to as gun toting. It was only ever brought up for a millisecond last season. I live in a free state so toting a gun is the same as wearing shoes.
You live in a free state? WTF does that mean? You don’t seem very smart. Should you really have a gun?
Yeah I don’t live in California, NY, or Jersey. I never claimed to be smart but at least I’m not asking stupid questions.
LOL Tamara
…didn’t this entire comment string start by you asking a stupid question? Out of all of the possible character statements you could make about yourself, you pick the most random thing THAT YOU LITERALLY JUST DID.
Why is it that all these gun champions strewn across the Internet can never string together a sentence or properly articulate their fweelings? Seriously, it scares the shit out of me that these are the type of people that are always loaded down with GUN GUN GUN GUN on their minds.
Merica! FUCK YEAH!
FUCK YEAH!
…didn’t this entire comment string start by you asking a stupid question? Out of all of the possible character statements you could make about yourself, you pick the most random thing THAT YOU LITERALLY JUST DID.
Why is it that all these gun champions strewn across the Internet can never string together a sentence or properly articulate their fweelings? Seriously, it scares the shit out of me that these are the type of people that are always loaded down with GUN GUN GUN GUN on their minds.
I feel like I have approved this message ten times. WordPress really seems to hate it.
Calling someone “gun toting” is picking on them?! ⊙.☉
There are SO many things that can be said about Ryan (& his GF) – like when is he going to grow some balls, man up & take care of his own family? He’s a 30yr old man still sucking on his mama’s teat & then moves his ready made family + 1 to join him.
Just what most women look for in a “man” – no job, no future, no personality, an affinity for putting dick pics on social media – and a m-i-l with big teats. 😉
I found it odd too when she pulled a gun out in front of his family and all the kids. Here in Pa, if you have a clean record you pay 20 bucks and get a permit to carry as many concealed pistols as you desire. Everyone does it but no one ever takes their firearm out or talks about it.
I get it and agree with you. If I could leave California I would.
I had to change the channel this show just isn’t even a little bit fun anymore. Whatever producer or writer came up with this let’s question someones cancer storyline should be fired. I have among other problems TBI, chronic pain and suffer from depression these are invisible to many people. I have had to end many friendships &re
Well for some reason my comment suddenly posted & I wasn’t done! Anyway I ‘be had people say I don’t look sick or hurt ect and I have had to cut people out my life because of it. I have actually been accessed of faking illness and it wasn’t written for a storyline. I usually just tell people to f off as I hold my remote to my chest to turn up my implanted pain stim. I really hate this storyline they have lost me as a viewer, no amount of $$$ is worth this stress to a cancer patient or to Vicky she has been thru enough! I for one don’t want to watch someone have an emotional breakdown over a storyline. Backing away from keyboard now…….sorry for the mini rant!
Did anyone else think that maybe Brooks didn’t go to Shannon’s top doctor because he couldn’t afford to go? I know down here in South Florida, the really good doctors don’t bother taking insurance and you have to pay cash. My husband’s cardiologist is $1200 for an office visit.
I was thinking maybe that was why he lied about the two flat tires and he was embarrassed to admit this.
You know that’s an interesting point…
Maybe, but I really think Vickie would help him with the cost. Never the less, it’s a strange storyline and makes me uncomfortable to watch. All these women are like cackling hens clucking away at each other. It makes me never want to leave my house.
Bravo would pay for it if they could film it. It isn’t the lack of money stopping him frol seeing that specialist. People with WAY less of a paycheck manage to pay for their cancer treatment.
The other thing is that Shannon made it clear what a huge deal it was and that no one can get into see this doctor and it was a fluke. If he had a flat tire and missed the appointment – was she going to pull a rabbit out of her ass twice? Shit my neurologist told me it’s “one day or 90 days minimum” to get into see him. He said either you get lucky (go me!) and get in the next day or you wait for months. And he’s not even some elite, crazy specialist. He’s prominent for sure but fuck – I live in DC, we have dozens of them on every corner in NW DC. And NIH. And Johns Hopkins. My point is that for him to have that sort of schedule, I can only imagine it was one and done with Brooks appt. OR…he could have said Fuck it – I’m not going to see this doctor because I DON’T FUCKING HAVE TO! It’s his health. His life. His course of treatment. His decision. IF he’s lying – karma will see to him. If he’s not – I hope every one of these bitches get their karma on screen and live so we can watch it all happen…
I thought the same thing, plus, it’s a bit of a slapped in your face to your current doctors.
You really think getting a second or third or fifth opinion on how to treat a potentially terminal illness is a slap in the face to the current doctor? WOW.
T – I stand corrected.
While in my teens my obgyn nonchalantly gave me a life altering diagnosis (as if he was reading the weather report). Through my tears I foolishly told him “I’d like to get an expert opinion”. To this day I still remember his words & tone before he stormed out of the room “What the hell do you think I am”. He was livid!
I naively thought he was coming back to complete the exam & laid there in the stirrups for nearly an hour before getting dressed / driving home. Pretty lame. (I have no doubt he would’ve done the same thing if I said “a 2nd opinion”).
Later that night he called my mother telling her he had booked me for surgery & it was “crucial” I follow through. Fortunately I had a relative who like Shannon got me into a topnotch specialist (in Boston) 2 days later & I never saw that pompous ass again. Needless to say the specialist did not have the same diagnosis. 😉
I had the same thought. Not everyone in OC can afford these exceptionally prominant doctors that Shannon recommends. And Brooks may not want to ask Vicki for the financial help.
As for Meghan…when is it going to dawn on her that she has gone too far in so many respects? That she has cause her husband embarrassment? That she has other things she ought to be using her time on rather than focusing on her high school mean girl amateur sleuth hour?
or maybe Brooks simply doesn’t TRUST Shannon’s Doctor and don’t want him all up in his business? He already have women calling his exes and doctors office and shit? And I see why Shannon’s husband cheated on her! If she spent as much time worried about her own man as she does worried about Vicki’s, maybe hers wouldn’t be knee deep in the next chick. She’s worried about the wrong shit.. but that’s none of my business.. Vicki is a better woman than I am because would have went off! But maybe she just doesn’t have the energy right now. I feel so bad for her.
And, TAT, Shannon is sitting by the last HW who changed her opinion of Tamra…Gretchen. How funny is that?
I am done with Shannon and her 9 lemons. I now feel extremely sorry for David. God bless him if he found some laughter and happiness with someone else. I will read here to see when Tamra sticks the knife back in Shannon’s back and twists it.
Heather is the most vapid human I have seen on TV in a long time. If Terry lost his money in the morning, Heather would be Gone Girl by dark-thirty. It’s all HER money, HER house, HER product line. What about her children? She never mentions them or seems to spend time with them. She certainly isn’t mother of the year material.
I am done, done, done with this show. No more for me but I shall look forward to your recaps, Tamara.
Exactly. I think it is so telling that Shannon is now on the upswing and can sit and be smug with the other bitches. I mean think about it – Vicki is still the working class girl of the group. Shannon took a tumble and got the cold shoulder from the rest of them because she wasn’t pristine enough anymore. Vicki was the only one who really empathized and supported her. Now that she is back on top, she’s back with her peers. She reminds me of the cheerleader who gets cut and befriends the outcasts. Then someone breaks their leg, she gets back on the squad and becomes a total whore bitch again. Arguably Tamara is working class but she also has Eddie and her work isn’t exactly on the same scale as Vicki’s. Plus she’s the girl everyone is afraid to be on the outs with. She’s just such a vicious fucking cunt that it’s easier to be friends with her than it is to call her out on her shit.
I stop then begin watching again RHOC. It’s my least favorite because the women are not likeable or relatable any longer. Maybe RH, all of them, are just too boring.
I like Married to Medicine & Real Husbands of Hollywood. They are more farcical
and make me laugh.
I find myself disliking Brooks, Tamara, Eddie, Megan and her husband. I really dislike
Shannon’s husband and find Heather and her husband fun to watch how they spend money. Vickie and Shannon I feel sorry for and I no longer want that from TV. I simply
want comedy or farce.
The good moms across the Housewives shows don’t mention their kids much – keep them off the screen, esp. depending on their comfort level. Teresa Guidice is a prime example of what NOT to do, with her knife wielding toddlers. Oy vey. We’ve seen Heather taking Coco out of temple services on Shabbat when she’s throwing a hissy, and she told her daddy he farts. Big whoop. Kyle’s kids – the older one off to college, sure… and just little snippets of adorable Portia. Their kids are NEVER around the fights, etc.
Or Heather is a candidate for “mother of the year” in this group by not allowing her children to be filmed or using them as props in a story line.
Yuck, I’m out of the country and have not watched the episode, but this sounds like quite the nasty royal cunt-fest, and I don’t use the C word lightly.
I have been wondering when and if Heather would inject herself into the Brooks Doesn’t Have Cancer or Brooks Isn’t Accepting the Right Treatment arguments. Knowing that Terry has inside info on the medical community there MUST be some confidential bedroom conversation on this topic. Hopefully other than sharing her info about the “cellulite doctor” she stays out of the whole issue. Terry’s professional ethics are on the line here.
Terry’s questions to Brooks about alcohol were a thinly veiled way to interrogate him too. The Dubrows get away with way too much.
I caught that too. I would have been insulted to be asked if I drink alcohol every day, and he had that smirk on his face as he said it. They do get away with more than they deserve to.
Are you serious? If the dude has cancer and he’s getting referred to the best doctors by a bunch a rich folks he doesn’t even go? Hell I would’ve been in the doctors office with Vicky and the Bravo cameras. They profit from all the controversy and they’re gonna sit back and let me die because I can’t afford the doctor? And Vicky who stands by her man no matter what can’t help out? At a minimum I would’ve had a gofundme site set up for me. Save the sob story for the really poor people who have no options.
When it comes to cancer, getting in to see a top doctor is a big damn deal. For Brooks to not go is very peculiar to me. Two flat tires? Very suspicious. No taxi/Uber/Vicki/friend to drive him?
While I think Brooks has or had cancer, his inconsistent stories and track record of being a less than honest man make it all very suspicious.
Remember he conveniently had 2 flat tires thus just a tire change would not work as you only have one spare. Not judging the man juat saying he has an answer for everything and non of it matches. Vicki and his break up is ONLY SO vicki can say ar the reunion hes not here to speak for himslef and i will not talk about it. U WATCH
Exactly! Brooks is not ‘poor’. Even if he would stuggle to pay that bill, I’m sure Vicki or Bravo would have covered it. It is the least they could have done considering his diagnosis is THE storyline of this season.
If Don had a questionable case of cancer, Miss Viggy would have had a power point presentation of all his medical files. She’s knows he’s shady it was obvious in previous seasons. She’s purposely living a lie and probably has some sort of insurance scam to go along with it.
Hi Slade! Weird. The middle school name-calling is old.
I think so too, and I think Shannon and Tamra understand this about Vickie. I see Shannon as being an honest sort who wouldnt want to go along with any lies knowingly. To me Vickie has not shown alot of high moral ground. Shes hooked on getting attention from men so she cheated on Donn till she found Brooks, now she acts like a drug addict thats willing to do anything to keep him around.
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Omg, it’s incredible the lengths Meghan is going to in order to PROVE Brook’s doesn’t have cancer. Frankly, at this point, I don’t know if he does or not, but what I DO know is Meghan has an agenda that borders on obsession. She is like a dog with a bone and won’t let go, and it shows the true bitch she really is. It’s NONE of her fucking business and I wouldn’t show any of them any documentation either. I would tell them to fuck off and go live their miserable lives and leave me alone. Of course, next week it looks like Brooks provides them with some kind of documentation which I think was a mistake. He doesn’t owe them anything. For once, Tamra gave Meghan some good advice and told her basically to let it go and the truth would eventually come out, but Meghan won’t. I despise her, and if it ever comes out that Brooks was lying about his cancer, I will still despise her. I really hate watching her in her scenes because when I look at her, I see evil in her. She is getting such a charge out of trying to bring Brooks down and he’s never done a damn thing to her. I hate people like that, they are busy body trouble makers, and need to get a life.
Ditto! Meghan has nothing else to talk about, except other people.
Vicki did not get where she is today by being ignorant. Selling insurance and living off commission isn’t easy and the woman kicks ass. I would much rather see her work ethic than this bs.
Like TAT mentioned, Vicki is under so much pressure, no wonder she is getting confused. Her Mom has passed away, her daughter has moved with her grandsons and now Brooks.
I don’t care what Meghan does at this point, I just can’t with her.
Having been in the insurance business for ten years, I wouldn’t say that insurance salespeople have a high rating in terms of ethics and honesty. Insurance salespeople have been known to market the policies with high commissions and frequently gloss over or omit negative factors that might persuade the potential buyer not to purchase a certain type of policy. Vicki and Brooks strike me as typical insurance salespeople in terms of fast-talking personalities. I’m not saying they are dishonest, but both of them have been caught on video with conflicting stories.
Gingersnap, I agree Meghan is truly dispicable. You know how when you walk along the shore sometimes and see a dead fish that is oozing with disgusting maggots? That visceral, lip curling reaction is exactly what happens when I see Meghan. She will not be satisfied that Brooks has cancer until she sees his grave marker! Even then she would probably want him exhumed and tested on the off chance that it was something else that caused his death – because you know, justice. Meghan must have justice!
In one of my “If The World Were Right” scenarios, I think true justice would be served if one day Tamra, Meghan’s filled with integrity, cool new best friend, returns to the true nature of her dark side, suddenly notices something not quite right with Meghan and Jimmy’s relationship. So, doing the natural thing in their world, she starts digging and comes upon rumors that Jimmy may be ever so slightly bent. Whisper campaign ensues. The OC Nasty Girl Brigade demands a sit down with Jimmy to get the truth out of him. Jimmy sees this as his last great chance for an escape so he blurts out, “Yes! I can do what I want. I can do what I want”. Dumps Meghan’s scrawny ass on the spot and goes off to live a happy, and glorious life with Jean-Pierre, the chef at his favorite restaurant. Two years later we come upon Meghan, sitting alone some place with the remnants of her pink/purple hair phase only visible toward the ends, and still with that gobsmacked look on her face. Ahhh – sweet justice, indeed.
Meghan is the intellectual camel toe of Real Housewives.
Comment of the week. Love it!
lmao! truth.
Maisey, you slay me!
OMG, I just can’t with these women. I wonder if this is going to be Vicky’s last season.
Makes me glad to see that Tamra can’t hide behind her seeking faith/baptism stuff very long, instead just oozes janky low life traits that come so naturally to her. How she lies to Eddie without any reservation, drives me nuts. No concept of loyalty. How hard is it to support a friend, but then again why expect from her, when Breanna is same shitty jerk to her mom. Unbelievable rotten chicks all around. I really don’t know why I thought Shannon would never be a stabber to Vicki. Sucks.
Luv TT comments about Ryan and Breanna, so glad TT brings it all back around!
Please tell me why I’m still watching the show? Let’s face it, Vicki is only the OG because all the other, more interesting housewives went and got a life. Then there’s henchman Tamra, who is, as previously stated, such a vicious cunt that she has scared off any remotely interesting character. She was not boring and mean to start with and has only gone downhill. Shannon changes allegiances like people change their underwear and don’t even let me get started on Meghan! Heather is the only one I can stand because it’s clear she’s acting the entire time and poking fun at herself and her gazillion dollar bank balance. Give me RHONY any day – the recent season was more about them having fun and being reasonably articulate and educated human beings (barring Sonja and, of course the Ramonamonster). I’d much rather watch people like Bethenny, Dorinda and Carol having fun and giving hilarious commentary than this trainwreck anyday.
Hey there! I love your recaps. I can’t wrap my brain around these people demanding Brooks records. Who do they think they are? Then go tell him what doctor to go to? He has doctors. These women need to get lives. I don’t know how Vicky and Brooks can film with them. Awful!!
It has been reported that Brooks broke up with Vicki due to the stress and toxic environment that these women brought to him as he goes through his illness. He walked away from someone he cared about rather than continue being tortured and accused. Sure his past is sketchy but what does that have to do with cancer? Cancer doesn’t discriminate and anyone (bad, good or otherwise) can contract the disease. Because he lied about his past relationships he can’t have cancer? How stupid are these people and how uninformed. Vicki needs to dump all of them because she has no friends among these horrid women. Vicki may be obnoxious and hypocritical and Brooks may be a liar but NONE of that has anything to do with cancer.I have diabetes and if anyone asked me to prove it I would laugh in their face and tell them to take a hike. A real friend does not ask you to prove that you are sick. They offer support and step back if you don’t want them to continue discussing it. They don’t insist that you see their doctor or pry into your personal business to prove that you are lying. . I have never had a so-called friend that questioned me or my family members as to whether or not we were ill and then called us liars because we refused to produce PRIVATE medical records. This is absolutely ridiculous. Sorry for the similar comments but this maddens me like no other story line manufactured on these ridiculous shows. that sadly seem to entertain us.
That’s a red herring. If Brooks and Vicky wanted to live together and not deal with this nonsense she could just leave the show. She’s always touting how successful she is. It’s not like she’s going to be homeless if she leaves. If they loved each other so much why not focus on that and move on.
This season has just become excruciating… Meghan has succeeded in displaying perhaps some of the ugliest behavior ever and made the show unwatchable. You can’t get rid of her soon enough, Bravo.
I’ve run out of words for how disgusting Meghan is. She’s a whole other breed of ugly.
I hope people see through Heather too. Whenever she wants to discredit someone she talks about how angry and emotional they are (like wanting to call an amblance for Shannon last year whIle Shannon just kept trying to leave). She said how angry Vicki was at the Aries party and how she keeps displacing her anger onto Meghan and Tamra. Huh? Vicki and Brooks both handled themselves with the utmost dignity and self-restraint at that party. Tamra was shrieking, Meghan was Meghan, Heather’s eyes were in full orbit. Vicki did the right thing by getting herself and Brooks away from these bitches.
Vicki doesn’t have real issues to deal with like Heather does though – being angry about your husband not liking your tree drawing would cause outrage in anyone :-/
Maybe Brooks just does not want to combine his choice of doctor with hw’s I sure wouldn’t and who are any of these women to judge his doctors? Also maybe they didn’t tell them everything at the gym cause it’s not their business. He said pausing chemo not ending it. Chemo daily is not something anyone wants to do and if he wants to try to boost his immune system then he can because once he is on active chemo he will be limited in his activities as bratty Brian’s pointed out.
Instead of a reunion perhaps Bravo would just like to film a public stoning of Brooks.
No kidding, Maisey. Definitely feels like it already. These people are horrid.
I just watched the episode. What kind of friends are these women? Unbelievable….show me your labs…smh…jeez. And apparently next week Brooks is going to show his PET scan and that still won’t be enough? Dr offices do not do PET scans….they write an order for them and either a hospital or a specialized company does it. Can you say restraining order or stalking? Weird for these people to be so invested in this. These are not friends!
Talk about a lack of empathy. I thought when some one was sick, you brought a meal, flowers, books, ice cream, and listened. I think you do the same thing when a friend’s close family member dies too. Have these bitch faces considered the fact that non Hodgkin’s lymphoma can be unresponsive to chemotherapy? Brooks might be grasping at anything he thinks might help. Vicki said he went to ME Anderson and City of Hope. Those are 2 of the top places in the country.
I blame Tamra for asking that psychic in the first place, and Meghan for keeping on pouring poison in everybody’s ears.
Why can’t Shannon understand Vicki is an emotional wreck ? I notice Vicki doesn’t harp on Shannon ‘s marriage troubles. The only housewife I like is Lizzie.
I really had to comment on the Pet Scan situation. My husband has had several pet scans and they have NEVER been performed by a regular MD. Unless the building where the doctor’s office contains a special room for scanning (the equipment is very large and very expensive), they are done off site and read by a professional Radiologist. who then gives the results to the doctor. NO regular MD does the scans himself and I have never seen a pet scan machine in a doctor’s office…never. I was a nurse and now have a husband who required them due to his alzheimers disease. Of course, the doctor that Meghan called said that he did not perform pet scans. I am beyond disgusted with this story line and the way that these harpies are behaving. Unless and until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Brooks does not have cancer it is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS and none of them are friends to Vicki with their constant badgering and accusations about the man she cares about. Brooks is not obligated to provide ANY medical information and they are not legally entitled to any of it via the LAW (HIPAA). This is getting down right offensive. The people who fake cancer usually follow a pattern..they either want and need a whole lot of attention or money . It is usually a scam that people fall for and donate all sorts of cash, services and lots of pity. I don’t see Brooks or Vicki asking for any of the above. IF Brooks is lying then it will come out eventually and if he isn’t…these creepy women will make all sorts of excuses blaming Brooks and Vicki for their suspicions. It is getting very difficult for me to watch this horror story because I am so ashamed of the behavior. I will continue to read the recaps because they are well done and cover everything that I would have normally watched but can’t bring myself to do any longer. I am offended for cancer patients, for Brooks and Vicki and as a former member of the medical/legal profession who has experience with the topic at hand. I worked on an oncology ward and it literally destroyed my nursing career due to burn out and watching constant suffering and loss. I also lost my dad to cancer and my son has it as well. Both of their pet scans were done in places other then their doctor’s offices too. Bravo and these women have no shame and I am beyond disgusted.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve gone through and I’m glad you posted. Yours is one of the more thoughtful, articulate comments I’ve seen. Keep commenting, please!
Cuntsatchel, TT already invented a new word. It fits them all.
While i agree whatever treatments Brooks chooses is his business alone, unfortunately, his business made its way onto tv and he and vicki’s conflicting statements haven’t helped the cause. I think 100% everyone should back off and err on the side of believing brooks, or anyone who claims to be ill. Better to believe and be fooled than unjustly harass and disbelieve a legitimately sick person.
That being said, I do understand why Shannon and Heather are confused (Tamra and Meghan are morons in my eyes and I don’t care wtf they think) about what their friend is saying. I do believe they are coming from a place of believing vicki and brooks, but brooks has flat out contradicted himself, as has vicki, many times on this matter. It’s a bit odd. Maybe we can chalk it up to her stress and grief, but he has said some things that just outright don’t add up and aren’t consistent. It’s all on video. So, all of that does not make for a lot of confidence. It wouldn’t necessarily make me think my friend was lying to me per se, but it would confuse me and give me pause as to wtf is happening and why their stories keep changing. That would bother me and I would want to genuinely sort it out with my friend, which is what I think Shannon keeps trying to do- albeit, she should have backed off when Vicki asked her to at the lunch. it was clear Vicki was in no state to discuss and she asked shannon to respect her space and shannon just pushed on. I get where she’s coming from but she really should’ve backed off in that situation.
I don’t think heather/shannon are malicious in any way, but they’re genuinely confused, and it is confusing. I wouldn’t think a flat tire would stop someone who is determined to see a certain doctor regarding treatment. I don’t understand why Brooks said this doctor of his cured his cancer with reservatrol or whatever. I don’t get why Vicki keeps saying she goes to dr appts, then she doesn’t, then she does, etc. They aren’t making it easy on themselves or on the people who believed them from day one. It’s just very odd.
I’m finished commenting on how disturbing and disgusting Meghan is, i think that’s readily apparent to everyone. Tamra’s son is a ticking time bomb, too, way to NOT appreciate anything that’s done for you. He’s a misery to watch.
Shae, I loved what you said “Better to believe and be fooled than unjustly harass and disbelieve a legitimately sick person.”
I totally agree – I think Shannon and Heather are coming from a decent place, although Heather is better at not pissing Vicki off to the point where she is crying and/or screaming, and Shannon definitely needs some work in that area. I don’t think Heather was ever going to say anything (I think she was the one in Cut who said “lets not say anything to Vicki”. Shannon needs to learn how to zip it or work on her timing – and take “No” for an answer. She pissed me off at that lunch.
Meghan and Tamra though – sabotage and twisting shit and stirring the pot is the name of their game. Tamra WAS right in that Meghan is her “mini-me”. I think Tamra has a little more “finesse” about it, while Meghan is a bull in a china shop. Meghan is NOT the first to do “research” – I was reminded of it last night on WWHL. Tamra did a shit-ton of research on Gretchen, even delving into a dying man’s business.
Oh – and there was a comment above about why Vicki wouldn’t quit the show to take care of Brooks. I don’t think Vicki has it in her to quit any job. She was horrified that Gretchen gave up a job for Jeff (frankly – I have always felt that Gretchen did have affection for Jeff, and that there was an agreement between them that she would care for him, help his kids come visit him, etc. while he was dealing with the cancer or his impending death) I can’t forget a conversation where (an outdoor lunch) where Vicki just kept hammering Gretchen about her finances, etc.
I didn’t disagree with her having that convo – I HATED her delivery. It was appalling and mean and insensitive. As insensitive as Shannon was to her, frankly.
Exactly, and can you IMAGINE what the Vicky haters would say if she quit her job to take care of Brooks? I mean why just quite RHOC? Why not just shut her business down too?
People are idiots.
I could not believe how ungrateful Tamra’s son Ryan appeared when he, Sara and the kids were touring the house. He seemed very critical of the upgrades that Tamra pointed out and barely said thank you for the $8K gift. In my opinion, there was absolutely nothing wrong with this rental home. Ryan is in way over his head and really does not want to accept the responsibility for his baby girl, much less Sara’s children. Of course, Tamra is not helping the situation by constantly bailing him out and not allowing him to sink or swim on his own at 30 years old. The Ryan/Sara relationship will not end well because Ryan makes impulsive decisions and then refuses to face the consequences. I predict that the Ryan/Sara relationship will blow up very soon, if it hasn/t happened already.
I agree, Shar. Ryan is a pathetic little weasel. Tamra really screwed that kid up. How could he be such an ingrate when she is writing checks for him like that. That home is a perfectly fine first home for a young family. And did Tamra pay for those upgrades? On a rental? Why would you do that? Make the landlord do it!
Anyway, I can’t see his relationship working. He is emotionally immature and it seems like he has depression issues too. He’ll never be able to handle four kids, financially or otherwise. I imagine Tamra is pitching a spinoff to Bravo right now.
And just want to say, I’ve been down in the dumps lately. I have had so many problems with my fucking TEETH! Just had another one pulled yesterday and I am loopy on pain meds. But anyway, I am going to have to pay like $9k in dental implants this year. Sigh.
Anyway, I only say this because I want you guys to know how much I love and appreciate coming here. You guys are smart, witty, and always fun to read. Thanks for giving us this site, Tamara! It’s awesome to share thoughts with such interesting people!
Hey Pip! Sorry to hear about your troubles, but I hope you start feeling better real soon <3
Aww thanks G-Snap! I’m fine. Just feeling sorry for myself a bit. Gotta go back to the dentist in the morning for attempt two on healing my dry socket. DRY SOCKETS SUCK!! My God! So painful!
Anyway, the pain meds make me a little mushy. I was feeling all grateful today to be able to come here and read everyone’s words of wisdom on Reality TV. It IS the best escape, after all!
Oh, Pip!!! That just sounds painful! I hope they have you on the good stuff. I used to work for my state – great dental insurance – and now I work for a private company – no dental. I am grateful that I had my 3 crowns turned into 3 root canals the two years before I left the state, and live in fear that my one remaining big molar is going to form a crack like the other three. (Here is the weird part – my dentist is so damn good I can’t remember/can’t tell which are fake, so I can’t baby the real one)
Only reason to do those upgrades yourself is rent credit or if you are renting to own or if you got a reduction in rent (even for a short period of time) because you took it as is. Some tenant improvements only improve the TENANT’S life, but could make the landlord’s life harder b/c he’ll have to change things back, or paint over the ugly ass colors you picked, etc.
As for Ryan handling the kids – my mom and I couldn’t believe the temper tantrum he had over having to leave – and not wanting to take the time to feed the kids breakfast because they “wasted” time riding their bikes, etc.!!! (One would think he’d be grateful they were burning off energy – and if you don’t want to spend time at IHOP, do as my Mom said (who hardly ever swears “treat the kids to fucking McDonalds drive thru. They’d probably be thrilled” We also laughed because Mr. Not Interested in Kids Eddie seemed appalled and worried that the kids wanted breakfast.
jacstrouse, You are an idiot…..Do you really believe the shit you’re spewing? Her name is Vicki, NOT Miss Viggy. Your time here is 3-2-1……bye.
This was a reply to TAT, way up yonder.
OK, my comments are not hitting the right places. I think TAT’s first comment was cunt was the worst name she could think of, I just wanted to reply that TT’s invention of “cuntsatchel” is the most perfect word to describe any, well …..cuntsatchel.
LOL. Truth. That’s the best word ever… 🙂
Empathy and RHWs must be contraindicated.
I don’t think I can even keep vehemently defending Shannon. She doesn’t want to look like a dummy by falling for a false story, but she doesn’t get that she looks like an idiot right now by seeming all too happy to be welcomed in by the mean girls (who are just using her). She should have kept a backbone with the whole Vicki thing…why be so accepting of Meghan all of a sudden? And, how do you trust Heather aftrr last year?
When someone is begging you to drop it because they are about to have a nervous breakdown, you drop it. Then, you do whatever it takes toale them feel cared for. I think I overestimated Shannon’s caring and heart. Expected way more from her.
If anyone recalls back when Erica Jong’s work “Fear of Flying” came out, with her coining the term, “the zipless fuck,” it was sometimes called the invention of a new literary ouevre, a combination of fiction and reality. ( I disagreed that Jong was by any means the first writer to successfully combine the two elements, but she did a sensational job.) Anyhow, Jong and other writers whose work has lasted, show a human side to the heroic and to the villainous characters. This has generally not often held true on reality tv. The nastier characters are almost totally unredeemable, and it renders them unwatchable. Where are those humanizing “shades of gray” which at least can make a flawed person be interesting? Earlier in the history of reality shows, there was more balance, but it has been lost in the shuffle; that creativity is nearly gone. There are even very few fun-loving elements left and almost no humor. It is far more than two seasons by now since I’ve wanted to watch RHOC, and RHOA is disappearing down the same rabbit hole, transforming itself into something more like a battle amongst crocodiles. Tamara brings us that missing humor, irony and human understanding with her writing. It is only here that it remains worthwhile and funny as all get out to peer down into these garbage cans.
My Mom had the book “Fear of Flying” and I use to sneak read it when she didn’t know. That was some racy shit for my little grade school brain!
For me it was Last Tango in Paris. I was raised with no TV and my mother had um, quite the library…
I think Brooks should give Mehgan a stool sample.
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@Maisey, yes! Bwahahaha.
Interesting show.
I did not in anyway interpret any of the ladies as “demanding” Brooks’ medical records. What I heard was Shannon and Heather saying that they would think, with how angry Vicki must be and Brooks as well, over being questioned about his illness, that they would WANT to shut it down once and for all and make all the naysayers look like fools. That even though it’s private information, it would serve the purpose of vindicating them and making others look foolish, which might be the lesser evil at this point.
I didn’t hear any of them acting like they were entitled to proof, or demanding she hand it over.
While I fully understand that Brooks private medical records are his and nobody should have to fork them over, I also understand how it might seem to others it would be a fast and easy way to shut the doubters up fast and put an end to the controversy- IF he was willing and chose to do it. It’s a fair point and worth considering.
I just think bringing up the issue is a far cry from demanding somebody do it. And, I just don’t agree that Brooks got questioned out of nowhere like any other person who was ill. Of course you would never demand proof or question someone who said they had cancer, i doubt they would ever give you any reason to suspect they weren’t telling the truth. Typically that would never happen. But this isn’t a typical situation, and while I do NOT agree with the ladies giving Brooks a hard time, as I’ve said, I think they should leave him be, he has definitely given them plenty of reason to be confused by his stories (not to mention his shady past which unfortunately makes dishonesty a possibility for him). I don’t blame them for being confused, I do blame them for harassing him.
I don’t think heather or shannon doubted anything at all until his comments and stories started getting really hazy and contradictory. Again, doesn’t make what they’re doing right, but I think circumstances around him , how he responds, the info he gives, his past, etc. resulted in the questioning (after the psychic broached the issue).
Have you had your hearing checked lately Shae?
lol, no ma’m.
I just didn’t get the “we’re entitled, we are owed proof” vibe from the conversations with heather/shannon. I find the whole thing out of line honestly, but since it’s been the main story for the whole damn season it’s hard to avoid discussing. I only apply this to heather and shannon though, I think tamra and meghan are taking a totally different tone that is most definitely insane/demanding.
Sorry Shae – I disagree. It is not a fair point and worth considering. I don’t care if Brooks is deemed to be the shadiest, shade master in all of Shadytown – whether or not he has cancer; what treatment protocol he follows; whether he sees a nutritionist or a preeminent oncologist is absolutely no one else’s business. It is even his choice to give Vicki as much or as little information as he thinks she needs to know.
People are too much into other people’s business with some sort of self entitled “right to know” – I’m looking at you, Meghan. Leave the poor guy alone.
I completely agree with you, Shannah, it is none of their business, but that’s not what I was saying. I meant, asking your friend (in this case, Heather and Shannon asking Vicki) who has absolutely had it up to here with the doubts re: her boyfriend’s cancer, why she or Brooks isn’t so angry they don’t just want to just shut everyone up with evidence, is a fair point worth asking/considering friend to friend. Not that it is fair to demand or ask said cancer patient for their medical records or that anyone has a “right” to them. They don’t, clearly.
In the preview for next week Brooks decides to show Tamra of all people his cat scan? Didnt he just say she was an unreliable source!!!? Makes no flipping sense. Of course they’re going to assume its fake.
Right.
I agree with Vicki’s point that even if they did show proof, the proof would be called into question and then where would the bs end? That’s part of the reasoning why, beyond just privacy and principle, I understand why they wouldn’t show any of his records. I don’t think Meghan especially would ever be satisfied or stopped with any measure of “proof”. She’s like a dog with a bone.
I will give ya that Heather just suggested it as a way to shut people up… but Tamra and Meghan basically demanded them. Not sure what Shannon wants.
This shit is just unwatchable
Ummm, there’s a little law in this country called HIPAA that protects confidential patient info. I am appealed that Heather, who is married to a doctor, would even suggest showing the medical records and NONE of these women need to see them as proof. Meghan is beyond scum and Tamara stirred the s$hit again by leaving vicki and then going straight to Meghan to repeat everything. Megan would have a fit if people asked to see LeAnn reports. To defend Shannon for a second, vicki should have at least told her goodbye. Shannon is getting hoodwinked by Tamera and Heather. Shannon should just tell people i dont know go talk to vicki and remain loyal to vicki. When vicki was breaking down it looked like Shannon was looking to the producers on what to do rather than being a true friend. I hate seeing this. Brooks has the right to see whomever he wants for his medical care. I cannot relate to Heather and her “problems” at all.
fyi – HIPAA doesn’t apply to the individual themselves. If I wanted to self publish a damn book full of every health detail about myself, I could. Heather, as a woman with some intelligence, would know that Brooks could put his test results on a fucking billboard if he wanted to – but if his doctor or heath insurance company even hinted what was going on, they could get into trouble.
How is Heather hoodwinking Shannon? I think they are actually at the same level of confusion and concern about what is going on.
I like to eat paste and throw my poop around the room.
After last nights episode I now have some demands of my OWN.
I want to see all medical records and x-Rays of these women.
I need to see absolute proof that Heather has a heart, Meghan has a brain and Shannon has a backbone.
I already know the husbands don’t have balls.
Spot on, Maisey! I would only add Meghan doesn’t have a soul or a brain.
You’re on a roll. ☺
I think they should all be more worried about finding a good doctor that can cure liver disease. It’s not like Brooks makes his having cancer a big deal or anything. Meghan doesn’t care about her husband’s ex suffering from cancer at all. In fact I’d bet that she’s counting the days for her to die and be out of the picture so that she can pretend Hayley came out of her. The fact that Brooks has cancer and seems healthy is what really bothers Meghan.
Brooks needs to get a gun of his own, and shoot a few of those damned vultures that are circling over his head.
His treatment or lack of treatment is his business, and no one else’s.
I don’t give a crap if he’s on TV. He has enough to worry about.
watching this episode I can’t help but imagine how proud Jim is of his wifey! what an awful, shit stirring embarrassment she is.
Wow. Tough crowd. I’ve been reading these recaps for years and only made it to the comments today. Bunch of anti gun weirdos that dog on Ryans gf for carrying rather than having 482826437 kids by 3 different dads.
You’ve been reading for years?
I am so sick of this Brooks cancer storyline. It seems all these ladies have made Brooks their storyline. If I have to see Meaghan next season, I will no longer watch OC.
Wish eddie would get his testicles out of tamara’s handbag, clip them back on and tell her to shut up when she is carrying on like a fool in public rather than just standing there saying nothing like a dummie.