Frankly, this Adam kid was pretty much Carole and Luann’s entire storyline this season. Sure Carole picked up some ashes and Luann made some scrambled eggs, but these two butting into each others’ sex lives was pretty much their entire story arc. Carole is dating the help! Luann is screwing married dudes from the bar! I truly believe that Carole and Heather of all people did not give a crap about the naked guy in the next room. It was all just a reason to try and catch Luann in the bed with someone. When that didn’t work, suddenly the house manager was telling on Luann to Kristen, as good house managers do. There seemed to be a big retaliatory plot against Luann for constantly pointing out he vast age difference between Carole and Luann.
Despite my “WHO CARES?” attitude about who consenting adults choose to sleep with, I thought I would purple pen Carole this week. Heather’s entire blog was about what she wore, and Luann’s was about her fugly dress and scrambled eggs and other things I can’t even remember. Oh and there was some sucking up to Bethenny involved. Anyway, on to Carole.
Bravotv.com: What upset you most about the confrontation with Luann at the reunion?
CR: Nothing really upset me, because Luann threw away any chance at a real friendship long ago. That said…it is difficult to have an intelligent conversation with her, because she has no ability to self-reflect, and much of what I said seemed to go over her head. Although, yikes! I did not mince my words!
I kind of have to giggle at the way Carole throws shade. While I would just go the easy route and say Luann is a moron, she just points out the difficulty of having an intelligent conversation with her. I really should take a page from Carole’s book and be less direct, I generally don’t have the patience and just scream, “Get away from me you stupid cow! I hate you!” It’s much easier than expecting self-reflection from the other party. That said, Carole could have asked herself why this issue that she finds trivial seems to have upset Luann so much. So, pot, kettle.
She appears to me to be a hypocrite. A person who claims to have beliefs about what is right and what is wrong but behaves in a way that contradicts those beliefs. In case anyone still doesn’t get that, let me say it this way—she judges other people badly for the very things that she does; whether it’s dating a younger man or dating her friend’s ex or reprimanding people’s manners.
You are just now figuring this out? Have you met Luann? Or “the countess?”
And as Heather and I jokingly called, the “skinny-dipping plus” incident with the young boy who managed the home we rented. He was only a couple years older than her own son. The crazy thing is Luann doesn’t even deny it as she continues to say how inappropriate I am.
The young boy that was only four or so years younger than your current paramour?
And let’s not forget Jacques who she did have a relationship with and who was 10 years younger than her. Or her sleeping with Sonja’s ex-bf, Harry. She even wanted to be fixed up with a friend of Heather’s, a man who had also once dated her niece. All the women know she lives in a glass house. They just didn’t say it as clearly as I did, understandably, because they weren’t on the receiving end of her punitive attacks.
So kind of you to list off all the people she wanted to be fixed up with and to be concerned for Sonja’s feelings about Harry, who was once the husband of another housewife and has been the elderly Slade Smiley of RHONY. Somehow that is Luann’s fault now?
She had been so unpleasant since our return from Turks and had said so many nasty things to me and about me in the press and on social media while the show was airing. Even as I tried to defend myself a little, she piled on even more female-bashing, anti-girlcode slurs.
Weren’t you right down there in the Twitter gutter with her with Heather as your tag team partner?
I expected at least an apology about her maniacal comment about me not having any children. Good thing I didn’t hold my breath waiting, because I’d be dead. At a certain point it’s like trying to reason with a toddler. The audience will come to their own conclusions about who is right and who is wrong or someplace in between. It’s not for me to convince anyone. Maybe they will side with Luann, maybe they will think we are both nuts. We could be. But like I said, the fans are very astute and have very long memories.
You may be surprised to know that most people don’t care who any of you sleep with. It’s really not a storyline that should cover an entire season.
Bravotv.com: Did you walk away from the reunion with any understanding of her side of things regarding your relationship with Adam?
CR: Luann tried to explain her side of things, and I really, truly did want to hear her, but she kept changing her story. First it was an age thing, then a family thing, then a girlfriends don’t date the help thing. Honestly it seemed all a bunch of bull since she had never mentioned anything close to being “ill” at the sight of Adam and I during the eight months prior to the show airing.
Eight months prior to what show airing? The reunion? You met Adam during filming remember? And you knew that Luann would be pissed and didn’t want to tell her. So, we all saw the signs and so did you.
If she was, I’m sorry she didn’t come to me and tell me directly. That’s what a friend does. Hey this is becoming a problem…Instead I was completely blindsided by her comments on the show and in the media. Of course, I’d be sorry if it caused her any grief, but I don’t think it did. It was a move by her to get attention and be more relevant.
While I could believe that Luann blew it up to draw attention to herself, you were not blindsided by anything.
And still at the reunion her stories didn’t track. Her niece and Adam had long been broken up before Adam and I ever met. Not, as Luann continues to insist, “planning vacations together.” In fact, she was in a serious relationship with another man at the time. I don’t chase men, and I certainly don’t chase other women’s boyfriends. But listen, can I understand her niece being upset? Absolutely. Let’s be honest, aren’t we all secretly a little annoyed when we hear an ex has happily moved on? Maybe she had lingering feelings for him. Maybe she still held some hope they would get back together. I get it. I’ve been there, we’ve all been there, but it had been over for a year. And I was very respectful of her privacy. I was very respectful of their friendship. The thing I’ve learned is life moves on, and you have to move with it. So what is there left to say, except I wish everyone their own happiness. Especially Luann.
Well, we have two more reunion episodes to get through before we can move on to “happiness,” should that ever occur.