Frankly, this Adam kid was pretty much Carole and Luann’s entire storyline this season. Sure Carole picked up some ashes and Luann made some scrambled eggs, but these two butting into each others’ sex lives was pretty much their entire story arc. Carole is dating the help! Luann is screwing married dudes from the bar! I truly believe that Carole and Heather of all people did not give a crap about the naked guy in the next room. It was all just a reason to try and catch Luann in the bed with someone. When that didn’t work, suddenly the house manager was telling on Luann to Kristen, as good house managers do. There seemed to be a big retaliatory plot against Luann for constantly pointing out he vast age difference between Carole and Luann.
Despite my “WHO CARES?” attitude about who consenting adults choose to sleep with, I thought I would purple pen Carole this week. Heather’s entire blog was about what she wore, and Luann’s was about her fugly dress and scrambled eggs and other things I can’t even remember. Oh and there was some sucking up to Bethenny involved. Anyway, on to Carole.
Bravotv.com: What upset you most about the confrontation with Luann at the reunion?
CR: Nothing really upset me, because Luann threw away any chance at a real friendship long ago. That said…it is difficult to have an intelligent conversation with her, because she has no ability to self-reflect, and much of what I said seemed to go over her head. Although, yikes! I did not mince my words!
I kind of have to giggle at the way Carole throws shade. While I would just go the easy route and say Luann is a moron, she just points out the difficulty of having an intelligent conversation with her. I really should take a page from Carole’s book and be less direct, I generally don’t have the patience and just scream, “Get away from me you stupid cow! I hate you!” It’s much easier than expecting self-reflection from the other party. That said, Carole could have asked herself why this issue that she finds trivial seems to have upset Luann so much. So, pot, kettle.
She appears to me to be a hypocrite. A person who claims to have beliefs about what is right and what is wrong but behaves in a way that contradicts those beliefs. In case anyone still doesn’t get that, let me say it this way—she judges other people badly for the very things that she does; whether it’s dating a younger man or dating her friend’s ex or reprimanding people’s manners.
You are just now figuring this out? Have you met Luann? Or “the countess?”
And as Heather and I jokingly called, the “skinny-dipping plus” incident with the young boy who managed the home we rented. He was only a couple years older than her own son. The crazy thing is Luann doesn’t even deny it as she continues to say how inappropriate I am.
The young boy that was only four or so years younger than your current paramour?
And let’s not forget Jacques who she did have a relationship with and who was 10 years younger than her. Or her sleeping with Sonja’s ex-bf, Harry. She even wanted to be fixed up with a friend of Heather’s, a man who had also once dated her niece. All the women know she lives in a glass house. They just didn’t say it as clearly as I did, understandably, because they weren’t on the receiving end of her punitive attacks.
So kind of you to list off all the people she wanted to be fixed up with and to be concerned for Sonja’s feelings about Harry, who was once the husband of another housewife and has been the elderly Slade Smiley of RHONY. Somehow that is Luann’s fault now?
She had been so unpleasant since our return from Turks and had said so many nasty things to me and about me in the press and on social media while the show was airing. Even as I tried to defend myself a little, she piled on even more female-bashing, anti-girlcode slurs.
Weren’t you right down there in the Twitter gutter with her with Heather as your tag team partner?
I expected at least an apology about her maniacal comment about me not having any children. Good thing I didn’t hold my breath waiting, because I’d be dead. At a certain point it’s like trying to reason with a toddler. The audience will come to their own conclusions about who is right and who is wrong or someplace in between. It’s not for me to convince anyone. Maybe they will side with Luann, maybe they will think we are both nuts. We could be. But like I said, the fans are very astute and have very long memories.
You may be surprised to know that most people don’t care who any of you sleep with. It’s really not a storyline that should cover an entire season.
Bravotv.com: Did you walk away from the reunion with any understanding of her side of things regarding your relationship with Adam?
CR: Luann tried to explain her side of things, and I really, truly did want to hear her, but she kept changing her story. First it was an age thing, then a family thing, then a girlfriends don’t date the help thing. Honestly it seemed all a bunch of bull since she had never mentioned anything close to being “ill” at the sight of Adam and I during the eight months prior to the show airing.
Eight months prior to what show airing? The reunion? You met Adam during filming remember? And you knew that Luann would be pissed and didn’t want to tell her. So, we all saw the signs and so did you.
If she was, I’m sorry she didn’t come to me and tell me directly. That’s what a friend does. Hey this is becoming a problem…Instead I was completely blindsided by her comments on the show and in the media. Of course, I’d be sorry if it caused her any grief, but I don’t think it did. It was a move by her to get attention and be more relevant.
While I could believe that Luann blew it up to draw attention to herself, you were not blindsided by anything.
And still at the reunion her stories didn’t track. Her niece and Adam had long been broken up before Adam and I ever met. Not, as Luann continues to insist, “planning vacations together.” In fact, she was in a serious relationship with another man at the time. I don’t chase men, and I certainly don’t chase other women’s boyfriends. But listen, can I understand her niece being upset? Absolutely. Let’s be honest, aren’t we all secretly a little annoyed when we hear an ex has happily moved on? Maybe she had lingering feelings for him. Maybe she still held some hope they would get back together. I get it. I’ve been there, we’ve all been there, but it had been over for a year. And I was very respectful of her privacy. I was very respectful of their friendship. The thing I’ve learned is life moves on, and you have to move with it. So what is there left to say, except I wish everyone their own happiness. Especially Luann.
Well, we have two more reunion episodes to get through before we can move on to “happiness,” should that ever occur.
yeah I’m like hypocrite much Miss Countess? Carole is not just dating ‘the help’ — Carole is dating a chef and that’s a whole world of awesome. Bonus points for being young, fun, and spunky.
If it comes to making a choice between who is more obnoxious…I am choosing Luann. Just the “You don’t have any kids” comment was cruel and uncalled for and she DID keep changing her reasons for being upset with Carole. Luann is not very self-aware but then none of them are or they wouldn’t be on this show.
I wonder if that “8 months prior to the show airing” had to do with the fact that Lu was hanging with Carol before the season premiere. So Lu’s attacks as the show started airing seemed kind of jarring. Otherwise, there is no way she was blindsided going into the reunion.
Yet they all went to dinner/drinks after the reunion. So which is fake? The dinner where they took pictures and put it on social media or the hate they both are throwing at each other?
I have had to do that in a coworker situation. I preferred to just be polite and generally ignore the bitch when I could. She was the one who eventually got in major trouble because she kept talking about me to others, making up shit they knew wasn’t true (I had a CYA file an inch thick on work stuff and they knew it)
It’s all fake…it’s reality TV.
Spoilsport.
Me? I’m not the one saying we can’t be slutty, slutty homewreckers anymore just because you found Jesus or whatever. Someone has to fill the void you left behind…
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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No not you silly. You are perfect! Tayna is a spoilsport for pointing out that this is all fake reality tv. I like to pretend to myself that it’s reality reality tv.
Lawd, here we go again… Chug your drink when you hear “girl code.”
I have liked Luann from the beginning. (I hated the dress, but I didn’t think any of the women looked great.). She didn’t seem very different after her divorce. Her behavior looked about the same to me as did her emotional state.
However, after the relationship with Jacque ( sp.) ended she appeared as if she just lost herself. I don’t think she’s found who she is yet.
The other women are dead on when they speak of Luann and the Countess as two separate persons.
And, incidentally, what she described isn’t the way to make eggs a la Francaise. I’m pretty sure I’ve misspelled that. My pronunciation is even worse! 😉
“Get away from me you stupid cow! I hate you!” – TT, you’re hilarious. I got busted seeing another woman’s boyfriend (he was really hot, and I was only borrowing him). After they broke up and he left town because she was a bunny boiler, she planted herself in front of me in a bar and cheerfully announced: “I broke up with James. Now we can be best friends.” Me: “We can never be best friends because you’re crazy.”
Frankly, you sound like the bunny boiler here.
You’re bragging about being a homewrecker?
Your mother must be so proud.
Lets hope you are so understanding when someone borrows your boyfriend.
Wow.
You honestly think Heather freaked out on camera in some excruciatingly detailed strategy attack to catch Luann with some dude? That Ramona was in on it too when she volleyed over responsibility and threw her under the bus? If Im not mistaken Heather actually walked In before the camera and rather politely said something like “Luann I’m sorry but im coming in”
When Luann first brought up that she thought they wanted to purposefully catch her with some guy at ~8am in the morning I thought it was Grade A paranoia, so I’m just surprised to see someone actually thinking the same thing.
Maybe I’m more Team Carole than I realized but Luann went way farther and way harder on Twitter – continuously for hours and hours on her tirade to the point where Andy asked if she had been hacked – so I can see why Carole sees it as more of an attack than an equal throw down.
Well Bethenny also said she thought that they barged in to catch her with someone on camera. Ramona sending them or not, they still (IMO) thought they were going to catch her with the other guy. It was not necessary and uncool to go barging in there.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Agree on that. Heather and Carole were over the top with that display.
I don’t believe for one minute Heather or Carole hoped to catch Lu in the arms of a young man. Heather was extremely shook up and I get it. Once she saw the naked guy, her imagination went into overdrive with possible scenarios. They could of been raped, robbed, had naked pic’s taken of them etc. And Heather had the added problem of having to describe to her hubby, that she slept basically within sight of a stranger.
I wouldn’t have wanted to explain that to my husband. He wouldn’t have been happy. The girl code should of been not to put your friends in danger or situations that could look bad. This naked guy could have laid on the bed beside a naked Heather and taken a selfie! When Heather started crying, I knew she was at her limit. She had passed from being upset & pissed, to full on shaking out of control. I don’t think she had anything on her mind but to find out who the guy was, and who put him feet away from her & Carole.
I don’t doubt this had something to do with her quitting the show, if its true she did.
Feet away? Come on. He was in a separate room, separated by a bathroom. Dramatise much?
yoya, are you not buying the whole Heather is a fragile flower who was terrified by the nekkid dude story?
giggles.
I agree with Breelee…
And you admit that?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It just would have been smart & considerate of Ramona, (or maybe even LuAnn), to wake Carole & Heather up when they were putting said strange, drunk, naked man to bed, & let them know, so that they could at least close & lock their bedroom door. But, when has Ramona ever been smart or considerate?! Maybe Heather or Carole has had something bad happen to them before? We never know, do we?
I endorse Psylocke and Breelee.
What would have been the consequences if Luann would have been found in bed with someone? Nothing. Unlike Heather, Luann is not in a marriage or serious relationship (like the pirate event). It’s not like Luann to care if the viewers know she bangs strangers, males barely past postpubescence,
married men, friend’s boyfriends, etc., so why is she so intent on saying Carol and Heather were trying to bust her? What is there to bust? Nada. She knows what she did was egregious, that’s why, and there was no excuse. What she did to Heather and Carol was a skeeve move.
Thank goodness it wasn’t me whose safety she blatantly put into danger. Heather and Carol were actually nice about the whole incident. I would have stormed into that room and someone would have needed to call for the jaws of life. My foot would have been firmly planted up her ass.
I understand the need, desire, want, craving for sex between consenting adults. I don’t understand jeopardizing others for a selfish, egocentric need. Take the action elsewhere.
What on earth are you talking about? What did Luann do to Heather and Carole on the show you are watching? I’ll wait.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I would have freaked out too had I been in Heather and Carole’s position and I don’t think they were trying to catch Lu “in the act”. What baffles me about the whole thing is that, once again, Ramona gets a pass. Why is she NEVER made to face the consequences of her actions?
@TT hell to the no I’m not buying it. Heather’s reaction was COMPLETELY BIZARRE. Someone suggested that Heather and Carole were taking a dip in the lady pond and were afraid maybe this guy heard something/could have taken pictures….now that would explain how upset Heather was. Thinking what if this gets out, what if my husband finds out…either that or, yeah, they were trying to catch Lu out. But if that’s it, I don’t know how she managed to get herself so worked up.
I think the lady pond thing is a stretch, but it does make one wonder why when Bethenny left one of them didn’t move to the empty bed.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Well Tamara, my comment was written based on the actions of Heather and Carol given the information they were provided, which wasn’t the truth. Based on a bum steer I would have done some unnecessy rearranging of Luann’s poop shoot for which I would have been spending time in the pokey.
Luann brought the married man back and she, along with Ramona, convinced the manager to permit the entry of both men. Luann is not completely innocent as she was partially resonsible for having men in the quarters. Again, if a person is in a group, especially of all women, and wants to fuck a piece of strange, get a room. Ramona and Luann probably knew little or nothing about these men and their backgrounds. Dumb and dumber.
Once I would have found out Ramona had given me the bum steer, if she hadn’t wised up and beat feet out of the premises, my wrath would turn on her. Since I would be spending some time behind bars for Luann’s proctological damage I would have lowered the boom on Ramona and not batted an eye. Guaranteed I would have served my sentence and been out of jail long before Ramona would have been out of the hospital.
Wow. I hope you don’t vacation with single women. You sound unhinged over nothing.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Heather is a grown woman. It seems that there is an argument to be made that it’s just fine for everyone to have sex on this show, with whomever they want. But, in Lu’s case it is the subject of Heather’s and Carole’s every conversation. What the heck is that all about? Lu’s anger is over Carole’s devious and childish behavior towards one if her close family members. And, the remark to Carole was simply Lu pointing out to Carole that she does not have children to consider when she chooses to hook up with someone.
@TT I think lady pond is a stretch too. But on the other hand, Heather was extremely upset. I can’t think of any logical reason for her to be so upset, other than that. They thought that room was empty so they had doors open and whatnot. Finding out it was not empty…thinking of the sounds that may have been heard…
TT… lol…yes I do admit to agreeing with Psylocke & parts of Breelee’s statements, however, I want to say I’m no prude, & I think they can bring home anyone they want on vacation and bang away, however, please let me know if you’re gonna put some “strange” in my next door room, while I’m naked and sleeping!
Love ya girl…
TT, I have had a close knit group of female friends for many years and the core friends and I have vacationed since the beginning of the friendship, more so now that we are retired. In all the years we have spent time together there has never been an issue of jeopardizing anyone’s marriage, relationship and, most importantly, safety but that respect and caring comes from placing value on another person. My friends are priceless. I would never knowingly place them in a situation where they could be harmed.
One major difference between the RHONY and us is we don’t vacation with the sole intent of scoring. On occassion sex happens but not in our rooms. As you well know finding a man to fuck is one of the easiest things for a woman to do no matter where you vacation. Ramona and Luann prove that.
My nature is generally peaceful with a live and let live attitude. Put me in a position of being exploited, harmed or possibly killed and I will become “unhinged” and put fear in you. I stand by my opinion that Luann and Ramona have shit for brains and permitting a man clear access to two sleeping women was unconscionable.
I don’t think she was trying to catch Lu with another man-I think she was a bit upset but then worked herself into a tizzy over it-imagining all the possibilities etc. They all have this pressure to keep the drama going in order to keep their spot on the show and I think that plays into most of their choices. I feel like each trip they’re trying to top, “Scary Island”….as if.
O, my. Made me smile, royalty vs royalty.
LOL I like the idea of it.
But in reality it’s kinda-royalty vs completely fictionalized royalty
Or in reality, non-royalty vs non-royalty??? Lee Radziwill, Jackies sister, married some poor broke down prince attainin a title but little else. And, Louann??? No one keeps count so far down list, countess/countless. I will vote w/you Psy. 🙂
I think the larger point (and one of the many reasons I like Carole) is that she GETS that she’s not REALLY a princess and plays down that angle whenever someone brings it up, whereas Luann encourages the (fake) countess angle any chance she gets. See: Twitter handle, books, etc. ad naseum
Ooh, that line about Harry, “the elderly Slade Smiley of RHONY” is delicious. Then the purple pen about Carole’s oh-so-vain bitching about the bad manners of others on Twitter…”Weren’t you right down there in the Twitter gutter…?” So funny and true, it might even be an understatement. Thank you, Tamara. You extract so much good humor from these storylines.
She really does! Tamara’s blog is THE BEST!
Carole seems to have stopped developing emotionally at around 16 with the “when a boy likes a girl” crapola. She’s wasting the few really good-looking years she has left being serious about fucking around with a kid 22 years her junior and acting as if it doesn’t matter. We’ll have 60-year-old Carole putting it back on the street riding on someone else’s handlebars in a few years when Adam dumps her because she’s obviously way too old for him. He’s getting free publicity beng on TV advertising his chefiness and he’s got plenty of time. Carole, not so much. She looks more like a crazy cat lady with no cats than a cougar.
Now watch it about the Crazy cat lady stuff
It’s like Tamara said, the pot and the kettle thing. They both like to bang you dudes, only Carole likes to do other things with them as well. Adam probably truly enjoys being with Carole for the time and I’m sure it’s not necessarily all selfish on his part. Believe it or not, a lot of young guys really do like being with and spending time with us older women.
First, they look at the purse.
Carole I do have a long memory and all of my memories are about you not wanting kids. You talked about how you think it is boring when moms talk about their kids and that moms are secretly bored talking about their kids. When you threw a baby shower, Sonja commented about how shocking it was that you were doing something involving kids because you were so anti-kids.
But when the audience found Luann’s kid comment to be mean, you jumped on board as a pained woman who doesn’t have kids.
I myself never felt the draw to have kids and when I heard the comment I didn’t feel it was offensive. Why? Because if you don’t want kids it can’t be used as a weapon against you.
I call bullshit on the whole thing.
That’s a really vapid way of looking at the situation. First of all, when has she ever played the poor me card? With your great memory maybe you can also recall Carole saying it wasn’t possible for her to save her late husbands sperm due to his cancer treatment – which of course alludes to her wanting to have children at some point.
Carole owning and possibly justifying to herself that she never wanted or needed kids is absolutely not an excuse to rub it in her face with a fucking golem laugh. You of all people should understand that there is an underlying societal sympathy for women who never had children, as if they are somehow less than for never shoving a human out of their body.
I don’t work a conventional 9-5 office job and have absolutely no desire to do so, hence why I dont, but that doesn’t mean I don’t feel some type of way when asshole distant relatives allude that I’m not an actual adult until I do. Almost anyone can relate to a situation like this – you’re not automatically unbothered just because you don’t want the thing in question.
Actually, I think you should let the women without kids explain how unbothered most of us are.
I know I am… wait, what?
Was it not obvious that Carole – the person in which I was tailoring my response to – was bothered? Why should one persons feelings about not having children be prescribed to millions of people in the same situation?
What makes you think she was bothered?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I have no children and was not bothered at all by Luann’s comment. I don’t hate Carole and Heather, but I am certainly still TeamLuann. I was on Carole’s side when the one-legged woman went after her, but she is starting to sound like a professional victim. (I did love her book though).
What?? Those of us who have chosen not to have children have done so for personal reasons. I do not feel that anyone should have sympathy for me because I made that choice. I do not feel any particular way that Carole is childless, and if she was offended by what Lu said then she should have spoken up. I know that I would have. But then again Carole has put herself in a position of being offended by someone who frankly doesn’t give a shit about her life, or her self appointed specialness. I loved Carole when she was seemingly a smart, assured career girl. This tween, crunchy act, not so much.
I don’t have kids and I didn’t find Lu’s comment that out of line. I’m not sure if she was trying to be shady or not, just saying it’s not something Carole has to think of. The mom squad seem to be the ones so upset over the comment. You know the ones always trying to push having kids down the throats of those who don’t want them.
If I had a dollar for everytime someone told me I could not have an opinion on something because I don’t have children, I’d have a lot of dollars.
Newsflash. I spent 8 hours a day with peoples kids for 10 months of the year. They were like the weekend parents. I know WAY more about what is going in with my students during the year than the parents do. I know when mommy and daddy fight, how it makes them fee, when mommy or daddy drink too much (the kid reports begin at age 6), when Daddy has a girlfriend, when mommy cries, when the police comes, what their favorite comfort item is, especially the ones I provide, what they will and won’t eat and drink, when their balls have not descended (true story) and on and on and on. I also have 13 nieces and nephews and nearly twenty years of teaching experience. That’s a lot more experience than someone who pooted out a kid six years ago. I can’t tell you how my heart ached when kids would hug me and leave for the day saying “I wish you were my mama” or how many I had to tell to call me Ms. Tattles and not mama from grades 1-7.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Carole never said she was anti-kids. She actually even said that she wasn’t able to save any of Anthony’s sperm because the chemo made him sterile, and she even recently said that if he had lived she would have probably been mom.
Even Luann realized that the “you don’t have any kids” was a low blow and says she wishes the words had never come out of her mouth. So it’s not like this was something that was being blown out of proportion for the sake of the feud. Carole’s husband was rendered sterile and then he died. Luann had no right to go there.
As usual you nailed it. I think they were definitely trying to catch Luann. They were so scared of the snoring naked man that they ran from room to room to find out who he belonged to rather than locking their door.
How could they be trying to catch Luann with a man in bed when the naked man found unattended in the other room was allegedly left there after being entertained by Luann?
The naked man in the bed was RAMONA’s. Luann took her guy to her room, which is why they barraged in.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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But didn’t they find out it was Romoan’s guest after busting into Lu’s room. Romona initially blamed Luann.
Um no, first they went to Ramona, IIRC because Dorinda sent them there and then she blamed Luann and they went there.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I don’t think they were trying to bust anyone because the guy had already been seen in the other bedroom and they had no way of knowing that there were two guys brought home that night. I understood it as they thought someone had been in that room doing whatever and then had gone back to their own bed.
Except Ramona sent them to LuAnn saying she is the one who brought the guys home.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I suspect that the niece and Adam probably had a friends with benefits situation after the broke up. Which is why they still were planning to travel together and were close. Still, if the niece really was that upset, Luanna should not have mentioned it. How embarrassing for the niece.
I’m going to blame my new phone’s autocorrect for the bad english in that comment.
I think they were friends with benefits too. That is why Lu hired him and the niece was ok with it. Otherwise I would kill my aunt for hiring an ex that I did not want to see again. Also, I would not go on a group trip with an ex unless I still wanted him. Charity or not…
I disagree the charity group was tight and traveled internationally outside of their relationship. If the breakup was not a big deal, they were a large group of friends doing charitable acts together. You don’t quit that because your BF broke up with you or vice versa. I image there are many hot guys in that group.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Nope the niece was broken up. The trip they were planning (and went on I believe) was with a group of Adams friends who help him on his sustatinable farm project thingy in Nicaruagua or wherever. It was a charity trip not some romantic vacation.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh I know that. I just remember what it was like to be 20 something and hang around with exes. Usually if you were both single, it was like a friends with benefits situation. I mean, if they have already seen you naked that is one hurdle you don’t have to worry about anymore. 🙂
I don’t know. Not worrying about it may be why their exes.
*In my head*
Carole ” because she has no ability to self-reflect, and much of what I said seemed to go over her head”
Luann “I don’t know how you can say such a thing”
I’m totally Team Countess in the Royal Battle between these two and I’ve always been. Carole wanted to bust Luann for daring to have an opinion about her niece’s ex dating a friend/co-worker. Carole knows it’s declasse and she just won’t own it. If she simply admitted that yes, it’s sucky of her and doesn’t care, I would respect her position more.
Heather/Carole were TOTALYL trying to bust Luann in Turks. They did break girlcode. Luann is no saint, and she’s a huge hypocrite, but that’s not what friends do to one another!
J.D. There are way dumber comments than yours in these comments. What gives? You gonna let Breelee out dumb you? You’ll lose your crown!
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You didn’t know TT, this year I’m a renewed MailMail. This is a new beginnings for me.
Well TT, you pretty much nailed it. I did have a theory that Luann and her niece were having a secret “Get Adam back” operation. Thus him being Luann’s chef. I have a niece that I love almost like my daughter. I have to say that if any of my friends knowingly started anything with her ex, she’d probably be an ex-friend. Carole says it’s hard to see an ex move on. It’s probably even harder when it’s on your Aunt’s internationally televised show. Ugh!
I have Aunts and if any of them went on a reality show talking about my relationship with my ex as if I was in the midst of a nine month case of the vapors on fainting couch pining away over him after he had moved on, we would no longer be speaking.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I completely agree.
The show should be called anything but real housewives LOL!
I was repelled by how nasty Carole and Heather were re Luann when they were guests on Andy’s show. Luann has never spoken openly against them on the show.
Heather and Carole’s freak out about the man in the bed seemed like manufactured drama to me. Nothing happened. The man slept in his own bed, got up, had a little breakfast (probably with the Bravo house crew before their cameras rolled to catch the HW’s waking up) and then left. Causing a huge fuss and bursting into bedrooms after the fact about what “could” have happened was just silly.
Clearly Carole and Heather are not LuAnn fans, and are trying to expose her for what they think she really is. Best to just be yourself and let Lulu’s shortcomings play out for all to see without putting too fine a point on it.
Carole’s attitude toward the niece both on the show and in her blog is really disgusting. I don’t care one way or another about her dating the help or whether or not “girl code” (whatever that is) has been broken, but Carole’s flippant cattiness toward the niece really creeps me out. I don’t remember what she said exactly in her talking heads, but it seems like she rolled her eyes and suggested the niece should get over it. And in her blog she’s taunting the poor niece. “Aren’t we all secretly a little annoyed when we hear an ex has happily moved on? Maybe she had lingering feelings for him. Maybe she still held some hope they would get back together.” UGH. And maybe Carole’s trying to make herself appear younger by acting like a damn 16 year old, throwing her arm around her bf while suggesting his pitiful ex isn’t over him. It’s not a good look for a 52 year old (or really any age) woman to condescendingly comment on her bf’s ex’s hypothetical feelings. IMO, Carole’s only ever made an ass of herself on the show and she’s totally squandered any credibility she had as an author and journalist. She could have brought some legitimate class and intelligence to RHONY but instead she’s turned out to be a thirsty, shallow mess. The ironic, age-innappropriate faux-tuxedo t-shirt she wore in AC is the perfect metaphor for her.
You are exactly right. It is like she is competing in some way with a woman who is 25 years younger than she is. It is indeed so teenage and obnoxious. Time to grow up, Carole! I don’t have a problem with her dating a younger man, but her attitude towards Luann and the niece is ridiculous.
I don’t think Carole and Heather were trying to catch Luann.doing anything. They only went into her room because Ramona sent them there. If Ramona had been up front, they wouldn’t have even gone to Luann for answers. And if Ramona were telling them the truth, they would have believed that naked man was Lu’s guest and therefore already gone – which means they wouldn’t have caught her doing anything.
I think Luann came up with that they were trying to expose me after the fact so that she could keep the story going.
My only reason for thinking that is when filiming for the season wrapped, Luann was still hanging out with Heather and Carole. It wasn’t until the show started airing that suddenly she was angry with Carole, and then they both whipped themselves up into a frenzy just in time to be “done” with each other when it came time to film the reunion.
I’m a firm believer in the first reaction is the real reaction and everything else is bs. Luann’s first reaction to Heather & Carol barging in was “be cool”, not that they were trying to catch her with her drawers down. She came up that bs later on further, dumb reflection. Carole’s behavior was of slight embarrassment and wincing about hitting it off/dating Adam and worrying about what Luann might feel about it. Carole at one point knew it wasn’t that kosher, whatever bs she is selling now. That said, Adam is a grown man over 21. All this rancor on a reality show must be very embarrassing to him and Luann’s poor niece. Frankly, Lu didn’t have a storyline besides her issue with Carole (and Carole only marginally so about her late husband’s ashes, which was tastefully done surprisingly) and she is desperate to keep her Apple after getting it back. When she was a FOH she was so awesome, what happened to that chill broad?
I miss that chill broad too.
I will say that I did find something Heather said interesting in one of her blogs. She said something about making sure to include Luann in all of her events last year when she was defending Kristin not being invited to B’s party.
Heather tries my patience, so at the time, I didn’t think anything of it. But, now I am wondering if Heather was throwing some “you wouldn’t be back to full time without me” shade in Lu’s direction. Which if that is the case, I have to give her a slow clap of bitchy appreciation. I do appreciate stealth shade.
Let’s face it Luann is a hater, and wanted him for herself.