We begin with great news. Heather has agreed to retire the word “holla!” from her vocabulary. Carole is already rolling her eyes at Luann. Apparently, Dorinda got a call from Hillary Clinton’s campaign office or something saying that Hillary is a fan? I’m not really sure as my DVR hiccupped at that particular moment in time.
We begin with the return of Bethenny this season. We get a crying montage. And a dancing montage. And a get off my jock, I’m bored with this montage. Bethenny is still not divorced. Bethenny says that of all of the drama she has had in her life this is by far the worst. Carole says that she has been there at the court appointed times for phone calls with Brynn and that Jason would not pick up the phone. Bethenny implies that Jason is fame hungry. Bethenny stays by her homeless comment. I personally don’t think it was official.
Heather claims that LuAnn was not happy about Bethenny’s return and intended to “bring her down.” Carole and Heather say that Luann made a toast saying just that at a luncheon. Luann says they are lying and she doesn’t remember it. Luann’s dress is hideous. Heather appears to be wearing a green silk bathrobe with an exposed black bra. Perhaps her dress was lost? I love Bethenny’s white top with black sequined pants.
I can’t even really recap this. It’s just a bunch of back and forth about nothing. Heather is so over Bethenny.
Time to talk about Sonja’s issues. I love her gold dress. Heather is still pissed about not being allowed into Sonja’s house on the way to the Atlantic City trip. Heather says that was the end of her relationship with Sonja. Even Luann agrees that leaving everyone outside is wrong. Sonja says she had a crush on Carole. Andy asks if she is bi. Sonja admits to the occasional dip in the lady pond. Everyone talks about Sonja’s drinking. Everyone expresses concern.
Carole is asked about Sonja claiming to party with Jon Jon Kennedy all the time. Carole says she gets that Sonja was drunk and it was kind of a fun thing to say maybe but, it wasn’t funny to her. Carole says first of all, no one who knew him called him Jon Jon and for her to say that she partied with him was odd because he didn’t party. Sonja vigorously argues that he was her friend and they partied all the time. Carole says it is inappropriate to talk about someone’s family. Luann makes a snarky remark about respecting family.
Time to bitch about the Adam situation. Carole is still dating Adam. Carole says it is nice and it’s not terribly complicated. Luann claims that her niece was still seeing Adam when they started dating. Carole denies that. Then we talk about Luann sleeping with some kid in the bathroom. Luann is very upset and apparently having a hot flash. Bless her heart.
They talk about Luann saying Carole doesn’t have children as an insult. Carole talks about Luann having sex with some guy named Alistar in the house. He was 21, yells Carole. And Sonja, dear Sonja, jumps in with” Everyone who did Alistar raise your hand!” and grins from ear to ear. I loved Sonja and her comic relief this season. Everyone tries to deny doing Alistar. Luann admits to skinny dipping with him, but that is just you know, the European way of dealing with things.
Next Week: Ramona talks about divorcing Mario. Ramona stealing Bethenny’s dress comes up AGAIN. And more completely irrelevant arguments.
I have to say, I also loved what Beth as wearing. The rest of he show, um, well, I guess there is really nothing to say. Can see why it was hard to post about. It seems to be just as difficult to comment about.
I am so confused by Luann’s look. Her dress, her makeup… It was all just BAD. Reminded me of something a kid would wear to a dance competition, and still would be tacky on the kid.
Luann’s dress is from “The Countess Collection” where if you hurry, you too can own this monstrosity at the clearance price of $32.40 (seriously).
The dress is 95% polyester / 5% spandex which is actually an improvement over the majority of her line which is 100% polyester.
Remember polyester pantsuits from the 70’s? Poly’s come a long way (when blended with natural fibers), but by the prices of her items she’s not using updated fabrics. If you’re experiencing hot flashes (like Luann) poly’s a horrible choice (it doesn’t breath). It’s very “uncool”. 😉
ETA: Not surprising people on Twitter last night were saying Luann’s dress looks like something from the 70’s. 😉
So I guess she HAD to wear her own stuff.. But wtf it’s just so awful, maybe worst reunion dress ever? The taste level isn’t there for sure!
If I hurry, I could buy that dress and go as The Contess for Halloween!
I missed you Addie2u.
As long as you are having a good summer. ❤
Hey Angel, don’t worry about hurrying to get that dress by Halloween. It’ll still be there. But do try to get there before Christmas as at that price I could use another Christmas tree skirt…holla
OMG! It would be a FABLOUS tree skirt.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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For the love of GOD I have been waiting for this page to go up-( then I got distracted with life). I have never, ever been so shocked and grossed out by outfits (entire crew) and worse, make up, bad, bad, hair, dried up faces, and just an overall HAGGED OUT LOOK . It stuck with me all day-not a winner in the bunch. If you did like an outfit, well ,the hair/make up cancelled it out. WHO is the stylist for this reunion show, and also WWHL? The ladies look BAD my friends. Bar fly, worn out bad.
Or crinkly wrappin paper.
All-around “worst” award goes to LuAnn.
By far the worst dress. Is it any surprise it’s from “The Countess Collection”? I liked the color – I’ll say that for it, but that’s the only positive. It looked like a cast-off sex-kitten costume from Logan’s Run or maybe Space: 1999 and on a woman of her age and size? Just NO.
LuAnn also treats us with more revisionist history. Now she’s saying – for the first time – that Adam and her niece were NOT broken up when Carole came into the picture. Ugh, just pick a story and stick with it, LuAnn. One sure sign of a liar is when their story keeps changing each time it’s told.
I’ll have to go back to the T&C episodes to take another look at Alastair, the
houseboyhouse “manager”. I feel like he was maybe middling cute? Bang bang!Barbarella. Barbarella costume. I can’t believe I didn’t think of it before! Gaaah!
LOL — you nailed the look. I thought Luann looked something like “Space Ghoul victim #5” in Plan 9 From Outer Space.
I completely believe that “the Countess” thought about taking Bethenny down. (a) She probably thought this was going to be HER season to “return” since she was being ‘promoted’ to Housewife again and (b) I believe she’s still friends with Jill and is obviously on speaking terms with Kelly. Case in point – Kelly just randomly showing up at a bar. In my hometown where there are only two… sure it could happen. But in New York City? Riiiiiight. The Countess needs to remember what happened to Jill when she tried to manufacture a storyline.
I also think the outrage over Adam is (a) manufactured to an extent and that (b) any glimmer of real anger is because she didn’t get some of that! If Adam and her niece were still together, she would have said something THAT WEEKEND. And why be mad at Carole? Go after Adam!
I swear her dress was made of mylar balloons. Ugh.
I love Sonja to bits, but she’s delusional. Plus, she needs to drop the John John thing. A quick Google search would prove what Carole said – no friend or family member ever called him that. It was a press thing.
Yeah Kelly showing up was weird, and obviously someone wanted to get to Bethenny with that one.
yes, and it did not work. bethanney is way too smart for any of them. ha
Last night when Luann was bitching about Carole & Adam she said “I wanted to keep it in the family”. I’m sure she did! 😉
Just ask Oedipus about keeping in the family
Erica,I have been wondering the same thing. Why isn’t anyone upset with Adam? He isn’t a child, he is a grown man.
For the record, I believe that he was either not dating the niece or they were not exclusive. BUT… drives me crazy when women turn on each other when it is ultimately the guy cheating.
Erica, Your comment is Errry Thang. The only thing I would add is: My first thought about that ugly was Christmas. My next thought was, she should just burn it.
Erica, My comment is a reply to the 1;29pm post.
Agree on LuAnn’s dress. Wonder what the hell Heather was thinking with the robe. Maybe just trying to get some attention? I also thought Kristen’s look wasn’t good.
You really have to wonder why, if the guy was dating both the niece and Carole, Lu Ann never mentioned it during filming? It’s almost like she acted awful about it and now she has to come up with a good excuse for her behavior. Anyway, it seems to me that she is just an unhappy person. I’m sure there is a reason, it will probably come out next season. It seems like I used to enjoy her once upon a time.
It seemed like the whole thing show revolved around Bethenny. She does keep it entertaining and she’s quite honest about herself and her situation. I think that’s one of the keys of being a mostly beloved housewife — be honest about yourself and your situation even if you are a sort of terrible person in a sort of terrible situation and usually people can find something to like about you. I mean, hell, I’m still rooting for Ramona Singer.
It’s hard to snark at people sitting around talking about things we’ve already snarked about, but a couple of things:
The People’s Countess – LuLu, just stop. You’re digging yourself into a hole you can’t get out of it. You’re more upset that someone slept with “the help,” which you’ve said, than the fact that it was someone your niece knew. Just stop. The hypocrisy is tiring and, like your dress, is not a good look for you. We loved you last season in your limited capacity as FOH, maybe it’s best to go back to that role so we don’t fully see your bad side.
Sonja – In the middle of the reunion, it clicked. I GET Sonja now. For a brief time, she really did all those things she said she did. And she can’t let it go. She keeps trying to relive and/or recreate them, and, failing that, reminds everyone what fun it was. It’s Springsteen’s “Glory Days,” but instead of baseball, it’s smoky eye, updo, Gstadd. The ladies nailed it when they said she’s crazy, but not malicious, which is why through it all we root for her.
Bethenney really looked good. I dig the short hair.
Let’s face it – everyone who was not LuAnn came across well.
I AM carefully watching Ramona, since its been reported that she progressively gets drunker as the day rolls on and passes out, although she claims she was meditating.
Nice observations. It’s funny about Luann.. End of last season reunion I was feeling like “why did they get rid of you?!” And by the end of this season I was like “oh.”
Feel exactly the same way! Thought she was finally loosening up personality wise and enjoyed her last season.
Agree. I really like that Party Girl Luann had came out to play. She was fun. I’d go out drinking with her. So you like pirates and some keep it on the beach vacation strange? You’re a grown, single, unattached woman. You didn’t make a sex tape to haunt you forever (that we know of lol)’, no one got hurt, you didn’t break any laws, you didn’t overtly embarrass yourself, you had a good time…..just own it damn it. However, if your that concerned about you more or less grown kids knowing Mommy likes to get her freak on every now and again well then….. DON’T put it on tv. And don’t put the blame on others for allegedly outing you. This is all on you Countess.
I agree. She was great last season.
bah! meditating…that’s hilarious.I’ll bet she was drunker than a skunk.
Throw in a Xanax = recipe for sleepy time!
If ever anyone needed a xanax it’s Ramona Singer- just not with the pinot mixed with lmao
Ramona seems like she takes so much adderall–I don’t know how she could fall asleep on all that speed!
I’m not rolling in extra cash, but I would pay out of my own bank account for Ramona to take Xanax. PLEASE!
@Xanadude~ True. Poor Sonja just cannot seem to escape the confines of the ‘Grey Gardens’ in her mind. Bless her self medicating little heart.
I get the “Grey Gardens” shiver whenever we see Sonja in her house. Sad, but right on description jrleager.
I don’t get the “sleeping with the help”. It’s not ok for Carole to sleep with The Countess’ help but it’s ok for her niece to? I thought he was a family friend who is a chef not strictly an employee. I have no clue what Luann’s issue is. So her niece was still into him even though they had already broke it off. That’s life. Why is LuAnn involved?
I think it comes down to Luann being jealous. She says she doesn’t care about her title, that is until a princess came on the show. She is so jealous of Carole that while she tried to not show it this season she could not contain it. Carole gets the hot young guy and not just as a drunken one night stand but the hot young guy also wants to be with Carole.
If the Countess cavorted with Alastair in T&C, then she is also guilty of playing around with the “help”. Luann was much more likable last year, when she wasn’t so pretentious. Most aristos and people with old money I’ve met are very classy and don’t need to give themselves airs. Luann is not to the manner born, so she needs to get real.
Hawkmoon, you are right about jealousy. I think she is also jealous of Bethenney. When the show first began, Bethenney was a penniless nobody and she was The Countess. Now Bethenney has more money than LuAnn and can afford a better life style. When you put that together with what Erica said above regarding Lu’s friendship with Jill, I am sure she said she was going to “take her down”. Bethenney is the Teflon Don when it comes to these girls trying to take her down.
I agree about Sonja, Xanadude. Now it makes sense. She had quite the life, she’s clinging to those memories because it was probably pretty amazing, and now it’s just average upper east side. I had never thought of that before.
There is just so much to say about Luann. I think after last season and then seeing the promo’s “Be cool. Don’t be, all like, uncool”, she ended up being the one who was uncool. I was really disappointed in her this season. She could not get her story straight as to what bugged her the most. The help (and who the hell says “the help”, I wouldn’t dream of calling people who worked for me “the help”… Sounds pretentious as hell), the age difference, or the fact that Adam dated her Niece. She was just all over the place. Her frustration, however, was very real. Hot flash and all. Not sure if it’s jealousy or what. But yeah, I like the other Luann.
And I like Carole a lot. Always have. I never hear her blathering about a title, or the Kennedy’s or any of that unless she is answering a question. And yes, it would have bothered me a great deal if Ms. Morgan was talking about what great pals she was with “John John”. I don’t necessarily by that. Perhaps they had run into each other occasionally, doesn’t make them great pals. I made out with Steven Tyler once… Doesn’t make me his ex-girlfriend, ya know?
And what was the deal about Luann saying or at least implying it’s okay to fool around with young guys, but a relationship should be off limits. That is just ridiculous. Luann is worried about her son Noel catching wind of this kind of stuff. Well, guess what Luann? You are on television saying this in front of 30 million people. And that came out of YOUR mouth. That will probably be more horrifying than to Noel than the other stuff.
I don’t know, I’m just really bumming on Luann. She let her anger get too out of control over this. Adam and Nicole were broken up.
Bethenny looked awesome. loved her hair and outfit.
Yeah well I ran on a treadmill next to Steven Tyler once, so I guess we’re besties! Yessssssssss!!!
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Okay, so I finally watched Pt.I of the reunion, so I’m late commenting, but gotta say:
Sonja’s crazy talk actually has always made sense (in an odd way) to me, in that I feel like I understand how these thoughts come together in her brain. I think most of the other HWs get it, too, but maybe no one really spelled it out until now.
My assessment of Sonja:
I’ve always felt Sonja DID party with Madonna, at least once. And I do not doubt she partied HARD a lot. She probably attended functions “John John” was also at, and I don’t doubt that she DID have a yacht with her ex. And perhaps Sonja was on a yacht that P Diddy had also been on at some point–I always thought all that stuff sprang from some little seeds of her past. Then she went downright delusional and all these seeds grew, mixed, got a major dose of MiracleGro, and became crazy exaggerated. Now add to all this the fact that, unlike the rest of us, Sonja no longer operates on a linear timeline, so, hey! Sonja’s mind really does “remember” partying hardcore with P Diddy and Madonna and John John on her yacht JUST LAST NIGHT! (Cue Dorinda: “Well, he’s dead, so that must be hard.”)
I think like someone said earlier, her brain has just stayed back in “the good old days when people really knew how to party”. Ignorance is bliss..? But it doesn’t excuse her behavior. She should have just apologized for drunkenly talking about John Kennedy, Jr., who she knows Carole was very VERY close to. She crossed a line when she defended her stupid, drunken drivel.
***(DON’T mention the toaster, though!)
By the way, will someone please tell me what the hell Gstaad is? I think I have heard that word 106 times this season and I have no idea what the hell they are talking about.
Nevermind. I found it. Apparently it’s some schwanky little ski village in the Swiss Alps or something.
Also, LuAnn kept alternating between “maybe, I don’t remember saying that” and “I never said that”, about the whole “taking Bethenny down” bit. You can’t have it both ways, you can’t claim you don’t remember the statement at all and then also claim to definitively know you didn’t say it. All her arguments all season just fall to pieces. I did agree with her that it really wasn’t cool of Carole to date her friend’s niece’s ex, I still don’t think it’s particularly ok- but she even fumbles that argument by changing her reasons for opposing the relationship 1000x times. Credibility is shot.
According to Carol, Adam and the niece had been broken up for a year when they met. After a year, and even if the niece still wished she was still together w/Adam, if they’d not actually dated in that length of time, I think it’s fair to say he was fair game to date anyone – be it fellow housewife or random stranger. Or, did Lu have her eyes on him for herself?
I sometimes wonder if this ‘controversy’ was supposed to be a stupid storyline for Lu but it got out of hand and she didn’t know if or how to end it so she’s done the worst thing, IMO, which is she’s kept escalating it, gets confused and changes her reasons, sputters and stutters when she’s confronted, etc. Whatever it is, the ‘twitter war’ and her blog comments are certainly unbecoming to a “countess” (cough cough) as well as to a middle aged ‘housewife’ and mother who proclaims she’s trying to set a good example for her kids.
Yeah it sucks because I was really liking LuAnne last season and now she’s gone all judgy/slutty hypocrite on us!
And oh God… Horrible dress… HORRIBLE! I must’ve missed the crucial etiquette rule: “One can never go wrong with the cheap mermaid look!” Cuz there is no excuse for wearing that thing. It wasn’t even tailored correctly and DAMMIT, Countesses always have their mermaid gear properly tailored!!!
And the Real Housewives Eurotrash award goes to Countess Luann. I don’t understand if she is more upset that Carole is fucking the hired help, her niece’s ex, or a younger guy. The explanation of why eggs française was more special than regular scrambled eggs was pretentiousness at its best. The countess is really a discountess. She is also jealous of Carole because Carole married a prince, has a couple of Emmys and a Peabody, and is a best selling author and also friends and relations with genuine American royalty the Kennedy’s. In other words Carole makes the A list.
I am really liking Bethenny again. She looked lovely. God bless Sonja. She really does live in her own world and everybody is welcome to join her.
Kristen and Dorinda stayed in the background. Ramona did a good job of sticking up for her pal Sonja, and Heather needs to get over the foyer episode. Dorinda looked pretty.
Agreed, and isn’t it awfully rude and disrespectful to refer to the guy your niece was with (in the past) as “the help”? Sounds like a demeaning term when he was, in fact, the significant other of a member of the family.
“The Help” needs to serve up a piece of Minnie’s pie to the Countess!
Ha ha good one, Erica!
No I am not punking you, I will issue a challenge, google Europe map 1914, if you can find Poland, congrats you have changed history. WWI and most importantly the fall of the Ottoman empire (middle east/Islam) and the fall of the monarchies of Russia (communism) and The Austria-Hungrary and Germany (fascism) are important to understanding the world we live in today. It seems like semantics now, but Stanislaw Radziwill was born in 1914, this was a period in which asserting any claims to royalty could lead to death. Russia’s Civil War lasted until 1920 and obviously the White Russians lost. I will stand up even to TT in that my assertion regarding the title Prince is correct. I love you TT but I am on the right side of history here, Love you all
I hear that Jackie O’s sis (Carole’s mother-in law) is upset with Carole for her behavior on RHONY. She is my least favorite “character” on RHONY. She’s from Jersey and is just a wannabe. Carole is obsessed with and jealous of the Countess. Carole is butt ugly, looks anorexic and needs to start shagging an orthodontist for free work on her god ugly ultra-mega overbite. Sheesh!!! LOL. #teamcountess.
#teamcountess is not the team is want to be on at this point of the game. Also, it’s pretty disgusting that your complaints about Carole are about her looks. And a wannabe? Of ANYBODY on that show, she is the most accomplished. Bethenny is a close 2nd.
*team I’d want to be on
P Kati: So rude. Butt ugly? You sound butt ugly on the inside. Unfortunately, that cannot be fixed.
I am also team countess, but I don’t dislike Carole to that degree. I agree that the countess is far more attractive than Carole, but perhaps Carole has something to offer that the countess does not.
I am sure Mrs. Caroline Lee Bouvier Canfield Radziwill Ross could care less about what her DIL does as long as she is happy. Carole is also from New York. Despite her god-ugly overbite, she married a prince. She doesn’t have to demean people to make herself feel superior.
I am sure your lifes ambition is to look like a barbie and marry a man who will keep you in shoes, bags, and dresses designed by Sonja, the Countess, and NeNe.
#superficial#shallow.
I think Lee has been pretty nasty on Twitter. She seems like an old biddy who is pals with that yankee from that one Bravo show…:)
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Argh, History majors can be buzzkills. Carole is not a princess, her husband was not a prince. Stanislaw Radziwill was not a prince, he was granted the right to use prince as a courtesy title. Legally he was a “commoner”. Carole’s husband would have had to petition Queen Elizabeth to use the title. Luann is not a countess.
I should clarify Stansilaw Radziwell was born a prince, which went out of fashion during the Russian Revolution. The title was abolished and no longer exists. He became a British citizen and was given permission to use Prince as a courtesy.
FTR None of itwasjulie’s assertions are true. Radzi both the father and the son were Princes under Polish royalty rules. The british royal hierarchy has nothing to do with whether are not the Radziwills were princes or not. They were not British royalty because they were not British. Neither father or son ever used the title and never asked for any sort of permission to a title as a British citizen. Carole never referred to herself as princess because neither her husband or his father chose use their title. They didn’t seem to have any interest in their royal distinction.
The only person who has ever tried to suggest a royal title applied to Carole (even though she rightly has the princess title but also doesn’t acknowledge it) is Andy Cohen.
*It seems to matter way more to Julie to claim that Carole is not a princess than the title ever mattered to Carole who like her husband and his father never used the title.*
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It wasn’t a Russian title to abolish. It was Polish, granted by the Holy Roman Empire. I believe it was Anthony’s choice not to use it in the USA, but I do not believe that he formally gave it up. But if she wanted to, as his widow, Carole could use the title. Now I wonder if Lunn was granted the right to use it in the divorce. Noel isn’t the heir apparent to the title… I think there is an older brother from an earlier marriage. (I think the fact that Diana was mother to a future monarch had something to do with why she didn’t lose the title of Princess, beyond the fact that it would have been a PR nightmare.
I realize Carole did not claim to be a princess. I assure you Stanislaw Radziwell was born a prince of the Russian Empire. When the Tsar fell he was no longer a prince. Titles such as prince were tied to the land. Poland became a free and independent country after WWI as part of the 14 points plan. They did not reestablish the nobility. Stanislaw Radziwell became a British citizen and requested the British sovereign to recognize his title of Prince. He did not receive dispensation to use the title legally but could use the title as a courtesy. All legal documents would title him as Mr. Stanislaw Radziwell. The Radziwell’s are an ancient family but lost all their land, money and titles after WWI. Four empires fell at the end of WWI and republican movements threatened the rest of the monarchies. King George V refused asylum to the tsar and his family for political reasons. With family like that who needs Bolsheviks?
Again, not true.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Jesus Christ on a Cracker.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hi Erica – I believe Diana agreed to drop the HRH title as part of the divorce but kept Princess. Not to go off on a wild tangent but I love this stuff …
Erica, ceased to be a “country” after the Napoleonic Wars, the Free City of Krakow rebelled and Poland was divided up by Prussia, Austria, and Russia. It was not a free and independent country until the end of WWI.
Shit I meant Poland ceased to be a country. WWI still exciting after all these years and I met my love because of it, The Latvian Love God. I probably need to call it a night. Hmm wonder if he is on Ashley Madison…he was an asshole.
Jesus there are some smart people here. And I am NOT being sarcastic. You guys are seriously smart … European history?! Please… I thought Gstadd was some designer until I just googled it.
Julie, you may have loved a Latvian, but you need to study up on nobility. Radziwill is NOT RUSSIAN. They are Polish. You are confusing government/legal with a more social construct. Not all nobility operate like England, which is a constitutional monarchy. It is not precisely tied to land., not always. Take Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. Born in Greece, he was a prince of Greece and Denmark. His family was soon exiled… but he was still a prince! When he became a British citizen to marry Elizabeth, he renounced his titles. When he married, the king bestowed upon him the title of Duke of Edinburgh. 10 years later, his wife bestowed upon him title of Prince. But there system is different a bit… more are like the Polish or Italian nobility. Although they are interrelated to a degree… the only reason why Anthony and his sister are not considered to be in line for the British throne is because they are Catholic.
Yes Pip, that is why this is such an awesome site. People may be rude, vulgar, assholes or cunt satchels ( TT’s term) but she does not suffer fools. I am obviously unable to sleep but this is the best site around. I found TT because; I found the Housewives ,when I broke my foot. I have stayed because I love TT and various her followers. (BTW where is UF?) It is a great site because …well now I think I am a bit buzzed….even people I disagree with, they are engaging…no delicate flowers. PS if you like European history there is a great you tube show The Great War. They do one show per week on Thursday. It will be running for over 4 years. I think everyone should watch it as it is so very important to understanding current history. WWII was stop Hitler. WWI changed everything it was the leap from horse and buggy to lear jet. Tamara please do not put me in the dog house.
Erika, please trust me Poland was not a country from 1809 until 1919. Stanislaw was born in the Ukraine. I am sure you are aware of Josef Corbel, Madeleine Albright’s father, and Condaleeza Rice mentor. I have had the opportunity to discuss Russian History with Ms. Rice. I started my dissertation on WWI and the Russian Revolution. No I did not finish it. Poland did not exist from 1809 until 1919 it was divided between Prussia/Germany, Austria Hungary, and Russia. Radziwell are descended from William the conquer. Winners write the history. Thankfully they have quit killing everyone to ensure nobody can usurp titles and power. PS I am very aware of the Greek King Constantine. Joseph Helenihi was King Constantine’ s physical/self defense instructor, prior to his abdication. Joe’s daughter is one of my best friends and now married to my favorite cousin. I know I am being bitchy, but I have spent years on the subject and history is a rabbit hole. I recently started thought ok both boys are in college; my daughter seems to have it together, should I go back.
Seriously… is Julie punking this website? I swear to heaven if you aren’t punking us, you are one of those folk that go to Rome, Italy and ask what neighborhood Jesus lived in.
What TT said.
BAM.
I’m really over Heather. As much as she wants to call out Bethenney, Heather is the real know it all.
Agree. I can’t stand Heather after this season. And I really liked her at the end of last season. She did NOT like another powerful, domineering female showing up.
I still love Heather and Carole…I hope that the rumors are wrong because I’d like to see Heather come back.
I like Kristen too.
Heather is awful.
Took this week off so I didn’t lose days this year..so I got to watch the marathon of Reunions Bravo ran yesterday. The countess had bad wardrobe choices in all of them. Sonja looked AMAZING in her gold dress from 2 years ago. I can’t help myself…I like Bethany, warts and all,
I ‘ve been imagining Real Housewives cereal boxes just like sports heroes, Wheaties, etc. For the Countess, I like her highness proclaiming “Not with the help!!!” She could wear a tiara with her mylar getup. On the reverse side of the cereal box I can’t resist the historic moment when the Countess schtupped Johnny Depp the pirate. Bacon in a box.
Also, remembering a long ago croquet game with Carole and LuAnn acting all rickety with each other, jealousy, rivalry and oneupmanship was obvious. Who understands why,when these two could be such good friends? They have a lot in common as cougars who also married and had to let go of fancy significant others. Sonja rarely gives anyone else a dirty cut like this ugly business from Luann, et al. about Carole not having children.
Bwahahahaha!
I think that to LuAnn was unable to clarify why she was so upset about her niece without saying what she really wanted to say. Her niece was still obviously sleeping with Adam, and calling him the “Help” was a way to put him down. He was using all of them as far as I am concerned to enrich his career. I hope everyone comes back next season except Carol and Heather. I don’t understand all the Kristen hate. Can’t we just have one nice normal lady on one of these shows. When Heather doesn’t cut her off she is pretty funny and snarky. Even Ramona liked her!
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Years ago, back in the 1990s one of my friends actually did date John Kennedy. It’s true that no one calls him that but the media and he does not party. Alcoholism runs rampant in that family and he abstained but wasn’t a teetotaler.
I just don’t get Sonja and why she says all of the blatant lies when everyone knows she is lying?
I wonder how her clothing line is doing?
The Discountess actually said that it’s OK to screw a 20 year old. Just don’t have a relationship with one! Was someone covering her son’s ears? Such a fraud.
Add that dress to her Survivor Immunity Challenge statement necklace line sale bin!
Love the Survivor Immunity Idol comparison.
Lol the Discountess! Funny @hwhag
Totally couldn’t understand that comment about it being ok to screw a 20 year old but not date one. So lots of one-off shags in bathrooms is ok but not a fulfilling, loving relationship?
I thought the first reunion episode was unwatchable. In fact, I got so annoyed I started skipping forward until I could get to a part where they weren’t talking about Carole/LuAnn/Adam. Then the DVR recording ended. Frankly, I thought all the references to “cougars” and “girl code” this season just made most of these women look desperate and pathetic.
I suspect LuAnn is pissed at Carole for something not entirely related to the Adam nonsense. Bethenny implied on WWHL that part of Heather/Carole’s bursting into LuAnn’s room was in the hopes of discovering her in bed with someone. They all seem really intent on letting everyone know that LuAnn sleeps around, which I am sure she does, but I do not fault her for wanting to keep that aspect of her life somewhat out of view.
Getting dirt on someone’s real life and then threatening to reveal it in their TV life seems to be a weapon the housewives wield against each other all the time.
I dont want my 50 yr old friends fucking my 20 yr old son’s friend especially if he is the exboyfriend of my niece. However go ahead and sleep with anyone else no matter what his age. Who cares? Just refrain from screwing my kids friends. My son doesnt need to know what kind of a lay my friends are.
My hunch is the niece and Adam were still friends with benefits and she was looking to upgrade to girlfriend. For him, they are over but for her they were still together. Men & women view entanglements differently. Whatever. He clicked with Carole so it was over. Lu needs to move on and find a stylist. That dress was hideous!!
Someone anyone please get Kristen a bra. Why can’t these ladies (all of the Housewives) accept gravity. The rule is if you can hold a pencil under your breast, you need a bra. They were all trying to “nicely” tell her, and she replied, she doesn’t need tape. She needs tape and a push up bra.
Ditto on everyone’e comments about Luanne and Bethenny. I can’t wait to see the backside of Heather. Holla!
It was wierd because her boobs looked perky but they were low on her chest… Every time they showed her I was fascinated. Also I think all of them had sparkle on, it was just too much wardrobe should have edited them as a group.
Josh gave Kristen that boob job last year. Dont know why the girls were hanging so low. Maybe the dress neckline or she has a long torso. Poor Kristen was outgunned because she doesnt have a mean bone in her body.
Carole and Heather should stop slut shaming. Carole slept with Adam the first night. Enjoy yourselves ladies. Just pull down your depends and go for it. Lol!! Just stay away from the kids and their exes.☺
What they ALL seem to fail to do is test their dresses sitting down, to see if they pop-open.
Kristen has maybe 15 years on each of these women (at least those that reveal their real age) and she doesn’t actually “need” tape. Stand her up and her boobs are located perfectly. And she appeared to be totally happy changing clothes on the street, sans underwear, so no bra seems like something she’d be comfortable with. It looks like Kristen is following Amy Schumer’s advice of “Less Face, More Sideboob”
At least Kristen’s offense is simply a bit of skin. I’d take that over Luann’s lunacy any day.
@HWHAG “the Discountess” .. That’s pretty funny lol
That’s a Bethenny quote, witty bitch that she is! I love her. Happy to see Heather go. I think Vet’s comments were right on, except for not wanting Carole back. Those who want no more slut shaming should stop age shaming. And yes, I’m old. 🙂
Luann probably does not want to say her niece was still hooking up with him and he dumped her for Carole and embarrass her niece. So…Shut up Lu!! You are looking stupid trying to explain this. That whole “help” thing is ridiculous. The help was good enough for your niece. The Countess needs to go. Fun and single “get your freak on” Lu can stay.
Also Carole needs to stop acting like she is blameless. When Lu told her that her niece was still interested in Adam, she said she didnt give a shit. Carole basically gave her the finger. Own that you hurt her. She thought you were closer. Not blameless either.
Carole is delusional if she thinks John Kennedy Jr. never partied. He was always in the gossip rags partying hard in his younger years. He settled down after he got married and serious. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that Sonja attended parties or was at Studio 54 when JFK Jr. was present. I seriously doubt they were more than aquaintances though.
Acck! I just googled “JFK JR Studio 54” images and there are all sorts of goofy photos of him whooping it up. I wonder if any of those woman in A-line skirts were Sonja –
My impression of Luann and her piss off at Carole is because Carole can rock it. Luann looks like a drag queen, remember LuMann? She also acts like she is above everyone and she has forgotten where she came from. Luann is just an american girl who happened to marry a count she met while modeling, she picked up all these airs that she feels she needs to have to be a “countess”. To bad she didn’t loose the title in the divorce, she clings to that fucker. Luann is jealous of Caroles easy going manner and her ability to attract men and be casual. All Luann seems to do is drive by fucking of hosue boys, pirates and friends boyfriends. What man wants to be in a relationship with that? I love bethenny’s look, loved that hair also.
Luann is not a countess, I doubt that she even is entitled to use Lady de Lessps. Carole is not a princess nor was her husband a prince.
She won’t be able to use it if she remarries.
I don’t care if she dresses tacky, screws young guys, and cougars around. I do dislike the way she refers to “the help” i noticed that on the 1st season when Bethenny introduced Lu by her first name to the limo driver and Lu got offended by that. Ramona irks me also for that.
When Adam delved and Eve span, who then was the gentleman?
This sounds off topic considering the comments above but while I completely understood Bethenny not being able to discuss the specifics of her divorce/custody situation for legal reasons, I found it really odd that Carol would divulge what she did about being there for phone calls and Jason not picking up etc…I wondered if Bethenny was ok with Carol going into such detail. Maybe its ok if you’re friend speaks on your behalf?
I am only guessing here, but she may have said what she did because she was witness to it and had observed it and how bullshit it was. There are always ways to get around a gag order, Bethenny did not divulge it, Carole did.
Right. I was just surprised that Carole would take that liberty. It struck me as they were close at that point but not BFFs and I don’t know how I would feel if a friend just talked about something that I really didn’t want to discuss. I was just curious.
I think Bethenny would have shut her down immediately if it was something she really didn’t want Carole to say, like Ramona did with Andy asking about her divorce last year. Or maybe she was in shock and couldn’t speak…
I wondered the same thing… I thought I had read that there was a gag order and she even mentioned at the beginning, that she “couldn’t” talk about it. So if friends talking publicly about what they’ve witnessed doesn’t count… Then maybe Bethanny ASKED Carole to say what she did. They did say that they had gotten closer since they stopped taping the show. Maybe during one of those times Carole was there when Bethanny was trying to call her daughter, Bethanny said something about wishing everyone knew what was going on and then Carole said, “Hey I know, I’ll talk about during the reunion.” I could totally see that happening.
Yeah that was my first impression too – and someone as verbal as Bethenny being upset about someone defending her in the one area she can’t defend herself? No fucking way.
I’ve never been a huge Bethenny fan, and I’m sure she was difficult to live with, but Jason sounds like a real rat, and Bethenny has all my sympathy where he is concerned.
I swear to God I saw Lu’s dress at the Goodwill when I was furniture shopping last week. It was on display with some other 80s prom dresses. I felt bad for her during that hot flash because along with the stage lights, and the fact that whatever material that awful awful dress was made from didn’t breathe AT ALL… She must have been DYING! Yes, Lu was literally a hot mess.
Did anyone else catch that whenever she was repeating that she didn’t remember saying she was going to “take Bethanny down,” she started to say the responses of the other women when she made the comment?? But then she stopped mid sentence because I guess she realized if she could remember their responses, that would be admitting (and remembering) she had made the comment after all.
I thought, for the most part, everyone (except Lu) did a pretty good job of listening to each other. (Pretty unusual for a RH reunion) Also, not only was Bethanny the best dressed, but her hair was so inspiring.
Poor Andy asked for sequins for the reunion and probably expected beautiful sequined dresses with dripping diamonds and jewels. Very Upper East side rich NYC. Instead he gets Luann’s hideous street corner hooker cutout blue glitter christmas wrapping paper dress.
It gets worse. Apparently she designed it and it is part of her new dress collection. Hope the designs get better otherwise she’ll be selling to Scores.
I don’t even think the ladies at Scores would wanna wear that mess!
The Countess collection is soo awful… but why do you think Sonja was the last on the couch? Dorinda who is new was closer than Sonja? that kind of surprised me
Sometimes contentious HWs are placed at the end of the couch. The Miami seasons always had Leah on the end. It is not necessarily a diss. Usually the middle ladies are the most boring.
I was so hoping the reunion would take the bad taste out of my mouth of Monday nights OC. Alas, it did not, it just got nastier. The things these women are making mountains out of mounds with are tiring I, honestly, don’t want any of them to leave. I still hold out hope for Heather and Carole. I just hope they can find more interesting things to focus on There were a lot of fun moments this season and I enjoyed that. To spend an hour on this ridiculous “affair” was boring and stupid. The single women are all cougars. They remind me of that commercial of older women sitting around a table at lunch and some young stud goes by while they all ga ga him. Turns out he is a friend of one of their sons. That was funny and only lasted a minute as this all should have.
I also don’t want to see any of them leave. I like Heather and Kristen and hope they are staying. I have always been a LuAnn fan in spite of her unfortunate comment about Carole’s childlessness. LuAnn is having her last hurrah and is sleeping with a lot of younger men. I think that is just fine. I am sorry she is being hard on Carole for the relationship she is having with Adam.
I am going to take one for the Countess. What she wanted to say, but didn’t for whatever reason, is that it is OK to do a young hard body, just so it is discreet, get rid of him by light of day, and use him for his purpose. It’s not OK to be a fifty year old woman parading around your “relationship’ with said hardbody, as if it means something, and as if you are so cool.
This is not a double standard argument-old men with uber young women in public as a”norm” is just as revolting and pathetic as Cougar Carole trying to tell us her newbie chef boy toy makes them/ and ergo her, special.
Seriously? You are kinda disgusting. “Use him for his purpose” – the young people you are talking about are human beings, not some plastic fuck toy to be discarded after one use.
Ha! Nice response girl! *snaps finger*.
Thanks for being the moral compass of the group. Because I’m sure you still are pen pals with all of your one night stands, and never considered just having sex with one as just “serving a purpose”. Mine were so long ago, that I couldn’t identify them in a line up, let alone remember what they told me their name was. But you’re right, the last time I looked, the hook up for the evening was a human being, age unknown. Kinda disgusting.
And he used LuAnn for her purpose. No harm, no foul.
I didn’t say I object to one night stands.. I do object to the idea that all young men (or women) are good for is a one night stand, only to be discarded. LuAnn (and your) opinion that one is morally wrong in entering into a long term dating relationship with a man younger than you is ridiculous. Screw 5 guys while swinging from a bathroom light fixture for all I care… just don’t get so damn defensive when someone else does something different.
Such a refreshing reunion. The fighting was snarky, petty and ‘light’. I missed this. Fighting over dresses, girl code and etiquette is much preferred over cancer, addiction etc.
Amen. I am not looking forward to the OC reunion if that is the subject. Monday was so distasteful and just full of nasty innuendos. This was quite tame though I would like to see them move off of the “Adam” story. I enjoyed N.Y. this year and I hope everyone comes back.
Love the NY girls the most, although the clothes, hair and makeup was….so so. Although bethany,s outfit was a hit!
Andy was an ok host for this episode except for one moment where Carole and Luanne were gettint into it over Adam and Andy clearly was sticking up for his princess bestie.
He started to look a tad manic at that point in time.
I thought all of them looked pretty bad. I don’t remember the clothes so much because I woke up in the middle of the night and turned it on. Bethenny and Kristen’s hair looked like maybe Brynn did it. It did nothing for Bethenny and Kristen’s looked like it had laundry starch in it that made it stiff as a board. I’ll have to watch again to take in the clothes.
I really dislike Carole a lot but Luanne needs to get over the Adam thing already. What’s done is done. Either forgive Carole or don’t, but this squawking over a man who, for whatever reason, no longer wants to be with your niece is really just beating a dead horse. You’ve said what you’ve had to say. We get it. Carole gets it. Adam gets it. Your niece gets it. Enough already. Now move on.
ALEXA26, LeeLee and Fivecats, I still don’t agree with your comments about Carole. Alexa, drink bleach witch! In the words of Kenya, don’t come for me unless I send for you! I couldn’t give a rats azz what your opinions are. I answer to Tamara not you so keep my screen name off this board you old pot stirrers!!
They sound as if they’re personal friends of Carole :-/
Carole has no class & should wear a bra more often. She’s always coming for Lu. Yawn…whateva!
Lol I actually am not a Carole fan at all, but I thought you sounded a bit nasty. You just proved it above. Good job! Have a wonderful weekend with your lovely attitude..drink bleach? Good lord, woman. Get a grip.
I didn’t like LuAnn’s outfit. Let’s face it, everyone knows she wanted Adam for herself. ..niece or no niece. Banging guys in the bathroom is so disCountess.
Loved Bethenny’s outfit.
LuAnn’s outfit looked like she bought it at the gift shop of a Howard Johnsons in Reno.
Anyone have any idea where they got those reunion ottomans or pouf from? I’m obsessed!