This recap may be a bit slow in getting done. If you haven’t noticed, I’ve kinda jumped on jumped on the crazy train again. But hey, I had a good bout of sanity there for awhile, and I have no doubt it will return in due time. Nobody panic it will all work itself out, it always does. But if this recap is weirder that usual, that is why.
Enough about my crazy, let’s watch these crazy New York bitches. I’m already a little more sympathetic toward Dorinda who seems to be on her own crazy train. I, of all people should be a little less judgey when it comes to the crazy ones. Heather continues throwing shade with hashtags. Do people really do that in real life? I mean people older than 13?
Ramona and Heather get into a fight over who gets to “comfort” Dorinda. Heather literally backs drunk Dorinda into the corner of the bathroom while screaming at Ramona to get the fuck out of the bathroom. Eventually, Heather and Dorinda hug it out. These New York bitches are to be commended on how quickly they make up with each other. It never sticks, but at least they try. Heather and Ramona continue to bicker. Heather and Carole decide to call it a night. The other ladies stay out.
The next morning, Heather, who sleeps naked, which she is fine with, but she is not as fine with some random dude sleeping naked in Bethenny’s bed. I mean really, who doesn’t like to see a naked man in the morning? Lighten up Heather. Heather and Carole interrogate Dorinda about a the mystery man. They get nowhere with that, so the go to wake up Sonja and Ramona, the two likely suspects who blame the man on Luann. Ramona is dead to the world, so Heather starts scream and opening the curtains yell at Ramona to get up. In her talking head, the apologizer apologizes for “punting it to Luann.”
Next the bitches go to wake up Luann. I swear if I was woken up after a long night of partying by these two banshees, someone would get hurt. Luann finally gets up and confronts Heather, “What’s the big deal. We brought some guys back here, we had a good time, what’s the big deal?” Heather was afraid of the naked man. Seriously? She must have been so much fun on spring break. 
Sidenote: You know what is fun when you are in the middle of an anxiety attack? The weathermen are interrupting programming to tell us we are all going to die. While I realize I am probably not going to die, that would be too easy, the chances that I lose power and cable are strong. Of course the storm is hitting now, right where the show picks up after first look.
Luann gives Heather her, “don’t be uncool” speech. Luann and Ramona get together to talk about how uncool and stupid Heather and Carole are. Kristen has spoken to the house manage who said they tried to keep the men out but Luann and Ramona were insistent. She also said that Luann’s man was married. Oh here we go. And with that they pack up and head back to winter in NYC.
Heather and Bethenny meet for lunch? Breakfast? Carole tells Bethenny about the naked man. Bethenny says that Ramona should have just copped to the naked man. Then she recaps the “fuck you dinner.” Dorinda arrives late to explain her version of the “fuck you dinner.” Why are they talking with mouths full of food? Why don’t they close their mouths when they chew?
Wow, Heather has a Yummie shop in Bloomies. That is pretty impressive. Bethenny is pissed at Kristen for selling a story to the Daily Mail where she says negative things about Bethenny. Something about needing a hot glue gun and an ice pick?
Heather, Carol and Kristen meet at the gym. Carol fills in Kristen and Heather about her meetup with Bethenny and Dorinda. There are too many women on these shows. All they show is everyone rehashing things a million times. Heather asks Kristen about the interview with the Daily Mail. Here is the actual story. No mention of ice picks.
Everyone goes to some sort of charity event that involves bedazzling. I am not making this up. Luann is pissed with Heather and Carole for “breaking into her room” in Turks & Caicos. Everyone is a bit annoyed with Ramona still. Apparently, we are going to auction off the jeans for charity. It’s ridiculous. Bethenny is pissed at Kristen. She tells Kristen not to talk about her in the press. Kristen says it was taken the wrong way. Bethenny says if she wants to be her friend she needs to not talk about her in the press. Kristen responds with, “Who says I still want to be your friend at this point?” Ramona butts in to try to defend Bethenny. Because Ramona doesn’t know when to shut up. Kristen says she probably should not have given the quote. But that is not enough for Bethenny who pulls Kristen aside to bitch at her some more.
Bethenny offers to pay Dorinda to bedazzle her jeans. Ramona wants Dorinda to do hers as well. No one wants to bedazzle. Bethenny leaves early as usual. Luann confronts Heather about bursting into her room. These two still hate each other. WWHL will be good tonight with Heather and Carole who have been bashing Luann on Twitter all week. Heather doesn’t get why Luann is mad. What is not to get about storming into someone’s bedroom early in the morning on a vacation and scream at them to wake up and answer questions? This argument was boring and played out 45 minutes ago. And yet, it rages on. Ramona hides out and refuses to join in on the argument. Ramona finally does her apology tour. It’s Luann and Heather versus Carole and Heather.
Next week: We auction the bedazzled jeans. Bethenny goes to counseling. Carole and Dorinda go to London to pick up Carole’s dead husband’s ashes. Because? I have no idea.
P.S. Predictions of my imminent death were inaccurate. It’s raining. No 65 mile an hour winds, no tornados, just rain and some heat lightning When did the weather men become such drama queens? I don’t need any help panicking and freaking out.
I’m in the WLS with the other “losers”, but since I’m in full blown Crazy Town, I’m typing my comment that will never be seen by anyone ever. The whole “there’s a man in my bed” was beyond beyond. They are grown women on a vacation and can sleep with whomever they chose. The drama was obviously producer driven. And, LuAnn’s point was well taken – why would folks barge into her room in the morning when there could have been someone else in the room? I probably would have gone over the edge on that one as well. But, I pretty much go over the edge on everything these days.
Um…peek-a-boo?
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so sorry about your crazy Tamara, I too am crazy right now. My step mother who raised me died and I had to drive a very long way by myself crying and freaking out to get to my dad. I will send you happy weather vibes.
I see both sides of the Luann and Heather/Carole drama. I would have waited until they were awake to start asking questions. Or i would have been really loud to make sleeping near impossible. Bethenny is a tough one, i love her at times and hate her at times. She so reminds me of a lost child at times, like she is trying really hard to be a hard ass adult and is just a very scared little girl. Must be very tough to be in her brain and her heart.
I hope your bout of crazy is short lived but know we all have them, all of us
So sorry to hear that therealdeb. May the love and happy memories you shared bring you comfort during time…
Thank you
I’m sorry, therealdeb, that you had to make such a sad trip alone. I know it makes your dad feel better to have you with him. Travel safely.
Lizbeth – I have a German-born neighbor who is absolutely CRAZY about German Shepherds. She’s 80 years old and has had 14 of them during her lifetime – even had three at the same time. Now she has an 11-year-old female that she adopted from a shelter last November after her 13-year-old female died. The previous owners just dumped her at the shelter and said they didn’t want her anymore. I’m a cat person, but I love German Shepherds too. If I wanted a dog, that’s what I would get.
Oh Deb so sorry to hear of the death of your Mom.
It is rough, now I have lost both although this one is hitting me far harder. So crazy town is my new home and I am cool with that right now. Thank you for your thoughts, it helps to just vent at times
So sorry for your loss, deb.
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I am sorry for your loss.
So sorry for your loss.
So sorry Deb…
I’m so sorry for your loss, therealdeb.
Sending you love wherever you are and hoping it helps you feel less alone.
I am sorry you had to drive so long by yourself feeling so bad. Just know you have many “virtual” friends here sending you good thoughts your way.
@therealdeb~ So sorry for your loss. May her memory be a blessing.
therealdeb, my heart is sending your heart warm, healing and comforting thoughts right now. I understand the feeling of losing your mother having lost my own.
It’s very strange to me, that Heather is completely unaware of how she comes off to others. She did barge into both Romona and Luanns room. She did so with grand sweeping gestures, pulling back the curtains and gesturing wildy. She accosted Dorinda, who looked like a deer in headlights. And rallied Razzie towards her cause. The whole thing was jarring! She also is feeling empowered @ her perceived position this season and has pegged Dorinda as weak. When Dorinda flipped prior to the dinner, I believe she was sensing an imbalance with Heather. Dorinda was trying to nip it in the bud. To no avail…
Funny how she kicked into bitch overdrive before Bethenney was out of the driveway! She wouldn’t pull that with B around. It must have been killing her to not boss everyone while Bethenney was there. She more than made up for the lost time. She acted like a complete fool and Carole is desperate to stay in the fray , keeping her relevant. Ugh!
She brought up the deaths of her husband’s cousin and his wife tonight, John Kennedy and Caroline Bessette. That make my skin crawl but I am surprised she has lasted this long without using it. She really doesn’t have a storyline to me. And, what is Heather’s contribution? Her nurturing nature???
She brought that up when she first entered NYHW’s and then has pretty much stayed mum. What is that, 3 years? It was her best friend who died. Geesh.
@ Spk
No doubt. Carole has never played the princess- royalty card crap that the other housewives were so enthralled by when she started the show.
And I don’t think she has ever brought up the Kennedy connection since she was introduced to us in her first season.
She’s going to pick up his ashes because they are tearing down that cemetery (or something like that. I’m hazy on the details, but it was shown in a “This season, on the real housewives”).
Dorinda is going with her, because she also lost her husband… Of course it would come up.
Sheesh is right!
Yes, Heather hates not being boss lady at all times. Completely not self-aware. I also am giving Dorinda some benefit of the doubt on how Heather could be affecting people behind the scenes (or just having to deal with her for days on end).
OMG, that is SPOT on TP! I was thinking that exact same thing..wth, it was like a switch got flipped. I think you got it, she was chomping at the bit to be HBIC…and like that old Evel Keneval motorcyle doll (dating myself here)..she was all revved and charged up and SHOOM! took off, lol
Pip – I believe that Carole said in a previous show that her husband’s ashes are interred at a old church or cathedral in England, and it is being torn down, so she is going to pick up the ashes and bring them back to the U.S. I don’t remember her saying what she’s going to do with them when she gets back.
Concerning the naked man, I see both sides.of the argument. I would be pissed if friends of mine invited randoms to our shared accommodation without my knowledge (less to do with personal safety and more to do with my stuff being touched or stolen). Still, if someone woke me up like that after a big night out, they would not be sitting at the reunion a few months later. Their mysterious disappearance would have many an article published in the Daily Mail UK.
I’m of the same mind: you bring someone home, you either stay in the same room with them or kick them out, especially if you have roomates or suitemates or housemates or whatever. Ramona should have followed standard one night stand rules and slept with the guy in Bethenny’s room, but, Ramona being Ramona, the selfish gene kicked in – she got her some and wanted to sleep, so the guy was disposable.
But you don’t wake me in the morning unless it’s life and death.
Exactly. That ‘guest’ is your responsibility until they are in a cab the following morning on their way out.
Ramona could have brought the guy back to bed with Sonja. Sonja would’ve enjoyed sharing. She shared Luann’s pirate.
The only people I have seen Ramona truly affectionate with are Sonja, Avery, and her dog. Ramona may like Beef Cake, but I don’t think she likes or trusts men.
Was Heather a little yappy Chihuahua in her previous life?
I’ve been in Heather’s position, waking up to find some random dude in my room that my friend had left behind. If it’s your one night stand you are responsible for keeping them with you or making them leave. The guy could have been a criminal for all Ramona knew. Putting some random in Heather’s room was a violation of girl code. Their bedrooms weren’t even on the same floor. It isn’t right that Luann was accosted. She didn’t do the crime. But that was again Ramona’s fault for throwing her under the bus and she should take that up with Ramona.
For once I agree with Bethany. If Ramona had stayed with the guy it would have been fine but just leaving him there was very rude. I also wonder if Heather worried that if people heard about a naked man in her room, it would start infidelity rumors. Jonathan is a chill guy but I don’t think he’d forgive vacation cheating (like Jacques did).
They had suite style accommodations so technically the guy wasn’t in Heather’s room. Had Ramona a) ever lived in a college dorm, or b) not been so drunk, or c) gave a shit about anyone other than herself, she would of followed proper protocol and locked the bathroom door from inside the bedroom they were doing “the nasty in”.
The man wasn’t in her room. He was in the room where Bethanny was. Those 2 rooms share a bathroom. I’ll bet Ramona couldn’t wake the guy up, so she just sneaked downstairs after doing him. There is still a full time 24/7 hour house staff there as well as the production crew. Heather is okay walking around naked in front of them and using the bathroom without closing the doors, but it’s not okay to see some random naked guy who was unconscious? She could obviously see that he was unarmed.
I can understand Heather being angry about the situation, but she acted like Luann and Ramona filled all her shampoo bottles with urine, cut the Yummie Tummie labels out of all her clothes, and beat her child with a stick.
I also think that both sides were wrong here. Not only was Ramona wrong to not make sure her guest was either with her or gone, but Heather really did overreact. I think she would have been better served going somewhere with Carole for breakfast and addressing the rudeness of the naked guy being in their personal space when the other women were awake.
I think the thing that ALL of these women should have been concerned with was that in this age of cell phone cameras, anyone of them could have had some pictures taken of them by this virtual stranger in a compromising position and have those photos end up on the internet. .
Xanadude’s quick hits:
Ramona is not a cuddler.
Kristen apparently brought back three puffer fish from the Turks and Cacos, bronzed them, and is wearing them as a necklace.
LuAnn was too mad this week to wear a statement necklace/weapon.
Dorinda needs to change her tagline to “Don’t humiliate me!”
I don’t see why LuAnn is so focused on “being caught in the act” when she purposefully takes the act to the center stage.
Speaking of, it’s interesting to note that LuAnn’s MO is to deflect and then confront, while Ramona’s MO is to deflect, ignore, and then file her indignation away for later use.
Ramona also seems to insert herself into situations where she’s not firectly involved, but camouflages herself when she IS involved.
Both Dorinda and Heather like to have the last word. This will not do.
Dirty martinis + Dirty energy = Dirty Girls
I’m an F bomb girl. In an F bomb world.
Winner of the Week – Sonja. After being the focus of the attention the past few days, the focus has now shifted to the others. Watch her in the episode. She obviously is totally enjoying everyone else screaming at each other.
I respectfully disagree. Winner of the week is your comment: “I’m an F bomb girl in an F bomb world. 🙂
and this week’s special guest appearance of Dorinda’s belly button was unexpected and appreciated. as was her leather jacket, which was really too nice to be wearing ANYWHERE around a glue gun.
@ Xanadude-
The F-bomb fight was drunken ridiculousness.
I am pretty sure I have heard each one of these women use the F-bomb at one time or another.
The best was when they were having the argument in the restaurant and Luann said (paraphrasing). “I just don’t use that word” and then proceeded to say it in her next sentence. Bwahahaha! That made me laugh.
These women should not drink a lot on TV. It makes them look like idiots.
Ramona is a worthless twit! I am liking her even less this season.
You are so right, when did rain deserve such drama? Why do they have to name the rain storms? I have begun to check the weather every day to check for the next storm. I have enough real anxiety, don’t really need help to panic 🙂
Heather was chomping at the bit for Bethenney to leave so she could reclaim her title of HBIC and she took full advantage. Heather and Carole looked ridiculous running around the house, crying about the naked man. In all fairness, I can’t blame Ramona for saying whatever she had to to get Heather out of her face. I agree with Luann, they had no business busting into her room and I think they probably were trying to expose her in bed with a man. I’d be pissed too. If she’d woken me up the way she did Luann and Ramona , she’d be picking her teeth up off the floor. Get outta here with your self righteous bs Heather! Don’t be like … Uncool. Lol Heather is the epitome of uncool.
Funny how LuAnn wasn’t upset about it until DAYS LATER. If I had such a problem with someone barging in to my room, trying to catch me “in the act”, I’d throw them out and tell them off right then and there.
This is just more typical LuAnn: deflection. Instead of focusing on her own unacceptable behavior or trying to understand why someone else might have a problem with it, she invents some way that she was wronged instead and focuses on that.
She was pretty pissed off the morning off. She was more angry afterwards because she started to think they purposely barged in on her hoping to find a man in bed too.
Sorry, but what part was unacceptable? Meeting some guys & bringing them home to hang out? The naked one was Ramona’s – Luann’s left, I’m pretty sure she’s not Ramona’s keeper, they are adults after all.
She was pissed off at the time, but they all worked through it. Then she manufactured drama for her ridiculous Girl Code song weeks later.
I tend to get angrier later because instead of just exploding, I will analyze the situation until everything becomes clear. Counting to ten calms some people down, but my countdown tends to go like this: 1. the nerve of this person, 2. how dare they? By the time I reach 10, I am normally livid.
Heather and Carole really did look ridiculous. Again with Heather’s double standards – why act so disgusted at Aviva for losing it at Ramona and Sonja during vacation a couple seasons ago and then think that she and Carole are justified in barging into everyone’s rooms screeching at them and demanding answers???
Because Heather and Carole are up here and the others are down there?
Andy had Carole read a passage from Aviva’a book about her losing it with Sonja and Ramona and calling them white trash on their trip and how she was embarrassed by her behavior. Carole didn’t get the subtle shade by Andy.
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Yay Andy! I have to say I’m surprised he threw Carole any shade. Good to know, TT. And, good throwback reference, Angel 😉 I would love for Aviva to feel a little bit vindicated. She had a level of self-awareness and humility she didn’t get any credit for while Heather and Carole can get away with never admitting when they’re wrong. The hypocrisy gets me worked up…in case you can’t tell 😉
Wow. Lol. Lots of crazy. …Lol. Histronics and Mania abound. If someone would have barged in my room, I would have yelled at them and told them to get out. I would have said we will deal with it when I’ve showered and had my breakfast. Unless, you want your two front teeth missing, I would kindly leave my room now. That’s how a Boss would have handled it. 😉
Amen! Who the hell do these women think they are ? Of course , Heather probably has that much experience with guys sleeping over being that she’s probably not found a guy outside of her husband (God bless him) who’d be a willing participant. She was the clearly the duff who never got any and so she went around condemning anyone who did , calling them a slut.
Bwahahaha, a duff. You made me lol.
That would have been awesome to see. Like a boss, lol.
That seemed like an hour long bitchfest. I’m unclear on whose guy Heather found naked alone in bed…Ramona’s or Luann’s?
Ramona’s. Ramona threw Luann under the bus because she wanted to keep sleeping. Or so she said. I can’t imagine falling back asleep after Heather and Carole’s entrance.m
Thank you 🙂
I agree the drama seemed fairly manufactured over this. However, I’d be pissed if I woke up in a suite with an unknown naked sleeping man. He was on the other side of the shared jack n Jill bathroom, with no notice. That’s just not okay. Keep him in your own room!
Heather and Carole had a point. You don’t put naked strangers in your friends’ rooms. Now that’s uncool.
I could see them being somewhat annoyed. The histrionics on display was absolutely ridiculous, though, and barging around the house screaming at people and opening curtains like they were on a drug raid was far more rude than letting some one night stand use the unoccupied bedroom.
I totally agree. Especially since it appeared there were no doors. Actually, I had a similar thing happen. My college roommates and I had a shared bathroom between 4 rooms. GIRL CODE meant you were considerate, and if you didn’t know the guy very well AND your girls were asleep (aka vulnerable – dressed or not) you kept an eye on said guy (esp. if they didn’t know he was there) We usually had a rule that guys – including boyfriends – didn’t typically spend the night on a weeknight. Weekends it was just expected. Guys (or the girl who let him in) always gave a heads up if entering the bathroom (and if it was someone “new” just for the weekend – post it notes were left if we didn’t know about it b/c we were at a different party). One weeknight, I get up not feeling very well – go to the bathroom in the t-shirt I slept in (nothing else) and one of my suitmate’s boyfriend walked in. The only difference between me and Heather – I basically ripped HIM a new one. I was startled, it scared me – I was embarrassed b/c I was using the toilet and was basically naked. Do that to me and I cry and get mad. I COMPLETELY get why Heather was upset. If Avery had called saying that one of her friends let a naked man sleep in the same suite as her, when there was no lockable door and she was naked and asleep? Ramona would have slit throats. Heather may have needed to calm down – but if even Dorinda had stopped and hugged Heather and said lets get you two a cup of coffee and we’ll find out when everyone is awake, that must have startled/scared you (walking in on a naked guy when you are naked) – she probably would have calmed down. (I wanted to go wake up the suitemate to kill her – my roommate basically calmed me down, even though she was pissed that our suitemate broke our pretty reasonable rules.
Carole sure is the instigator this season and somehow flies under the radar. She talks out of both sides of her mouth. On another note, Bethenney’s impression of Dorinda was spot on.
What frustrates me about Ramona and LuAnn in this situation is their steadfast refusal to even consider why someone else might have a problem with their actions…this incredibly selfish attitude of “I can do no wrong, and how dare you even question me?”
I, too, adore waking up to the sight of a nude man in bed. But the WHOLE POINT is that he’s in bed with me! To just let him wander off God-knows-where to do God-knows-what is incredibly irresponsible and inconsiderate.
I mean, hookup rule #1 is that you keep your “guest” entertained and with you, or conversely, if you’re tired of him, show him the door. Don’t we all learn this in High School at Beach Week…if not before? Cripes, if they don’t understand this, they have no business hooking up. #Dumbbitches
Maybe they’d be more considerate if Heather hadn’t acted like an absolute psychopath.
Exactly, Heather sure expects a lot of grace for herself and has none for others. Who wouldn’t be on the defensive after her morning rampage?
So…post hoc ergo propter hoc? Heather behaved “like an absolute psycopath” in reaction to LuAnn’s inconsiderateness. But if Heather hadn’t behaved that way, LuAnn would’ve been more considerate in the first place? How? Via time-travel?
Uh, Okay. Makes sense.
Remind me what exactly Luann did that was inconsiderate?
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Lu followed the girl code of seeing her man off. Ooops… her borrowed, married man. But ALL that was needed to calm Heather down is “I’m sorry you were startled/scared. Sorry I responded with anger, but you two scared ME barging into my room so suddenly. We will need to take this up with Ramona, as I suspect this was the gentleman she entertained last night”.
I think LuAnn knew exactly what she did wrong, but she was smart enough to find the one thing that she could throw back at Heather and Carole and make IT the issue instead of what she did wrong. Pretty smart, our Countess.
I’m looking into the entire buying a title for my parents, by the way. You can purchase a Scottish title for under 50 bucks. This may also entitle you to sleep with LuAnn.
Oh, I’m sure one could sleep with LuAnn for a lot less than $50. More like
$1.99$5.99. NTTAWWT.Xanadude, you are wonderful. I love every post. You make me laugh and I generally agree with your sentiments.
I loved the way LuAnn poo-pooed any mention of her getting it on with a married man…
@ericzku
Luann sent her man home. She didn’t do anything wrong. Are you even reading the comments or watching the show? Ramona is the one who was in the wrong. Pissing me off. I don’t even especially like Luann but now I’m standing up for her. Pay attention, please.
This is where my post was supposed to land.
Never commented here before but omg can we discuss bethenny’s impression of dorinda?! Hilarious.
@Nicole …. great time to jump in. I agree — Bethenny nailed it! She just cracks me up.
Yes, hilarious. Maybe this is part of the reason I give Bethenny some free passes here and there. She does crack me up like no other from RHONY.
Didn’t the Countess write a book on manners? Did she have a chapter that covered her behavior? She can go pretty low class when she chooses, she acts all above so many situations and behaviors and then she acts like a bitch in heat. She acts all elegant, no wonder the Count stepped out.
When i think about it, if I had been Ramona I might have done the same thing. She and Sonja are sharing a bed, so she goes upstairs with the naked man. If she has stayed upstairs with him , can you imagine being woken up by Heather and Carole the next morning? They’d be condemning her for being in the bed with a man! She can’t bring him to her bed because Sonja is there. If he was too drunk to drive himself or his friend was downstairs in bed with Luann, he stayed. And who knows, is it not possible that she actually did sleep there in the bed with him and got up and ran downstairs before Heather woke up and barged in and /or called her out for having a one night stand. She wouldn’t want her daughter to see her do that. Either way, Heather would’ve gone on a rant and called out anyone in the house who was having sex. Let’s be honest. Does anyone remember how she outed Sonja and Luann on the last trip? No one is having sex on Heather’s watch and getting away with it! Oh.. no way !
Um, Ramona should have simply closed the F-ing door on the Jack and Jill bathroom. And it would have been nice to everybody if she had stayed with him.
The men they hooked up with must have been first class losers. Providing a place to get laid is the responsibility of the man. If the men couldn’t afford a room for the deed the NYHW’S are loaded with big bucks. Enough to afford a room elsewhere…then leave. If Luann and Ramona are that horny, another option is to go to the room where the men are staying. Why do they bring strays back to the accommodations provided by Bravo knowing there are cameras and aware that a couple of the women are not appreciative of strange men around (after the problems last year)?
I’m not saying that they shouldn’t get laid. Just take the sex elsewhere.
This!! I was writing exactly this! Wtf is wrong with these rich bitches? Does having money mean you have less common sense? Bring the tale home, not the tail.
Ummm, if they did what you are suggesting, what would we all have to talk about? LOL. Maybe they can not stay elsewhere while on a Bravo sponsored trip.
Are the camera crews with them 24/7? I mean Heather was just waking up in all her nakedness to find the “one night stand” and at the same time the camera crew just happened to be lurking in the house. How did that work anyway. She woke up, found the guy, and then went and got the camera crew to go with her to tell Carole? Unnecessary drama.
I don’t think the crew is with them 24/7, I think they have call times and the crew goes back to their own lodgings at a certain point during the night. It’s the only explanation for why the good stuff – Luann and the Pirate, Luann and her one night stand, Ramona and HER one night stand never make it to camera.
While I think Heather, as a mother of very young children, had a right to be upset that a total stranger could have snapped some naked pictures of her without her knowledge, she totally used her irritation to have her big dramatic scene.
I have personally been back and forth with Heather. I hated her her first season. I kind of liked her her second season. This season it has been a world of WTF with her for me.
I would have an issue with a strange naked guy being in my personal space without my knowledge if he were there by himself and not with his host. But, I happen to be married to a man with a beautiful cock and all other pale in comparison. But, I wouldn’t have made it a major production. I would just let Ramona know that if she can’t follow the one night stand rules, she shouldn’t have one night stands when sharing a house with a bunch of women.
I noticed Heather woke up with makeup on. LuAnn put her sunglasses on when she confronted Heather. Whatever happened LuAnn has a fabulous body. Forget the manners book, she should have the workout book
Here is the opportunity for Sonja to make a legitimate buck. She should write The Cougar’s Guide to Shagging – Etiquette for Skanks, THOTs and Liberated Mature Women. The title needs work, suggestions are welcome.
Honestly, I would not have cared about the naked guy. He was passed out and in the other room. I would have laughed . He was naked and Heather was asking Carol where is your watch umm he’s naked.
Heather is just a nasty woman and ” peace and love” Carol is a phony. I am sure she has had her share of married dudes.
Kristen is a twit, running to the house manager to have something come out of her mouth. And she was wrong blabbing about Beth, I am not a Beth fan but she was saying anything to anyone to get herself some press and not be kicked off the show.
And I am just as sure that you have had just as many married men as Carole has….get it?
My comment was meant for you Virginia, in case it went over your head.
Heather and Carole reminded me of “mean girls” sitting at the table watching drunk Dorinda have an argument. It’s obvious Dorinda has liquid courage but really heather !? Hastags? She’s such a bully and thinks she’s “being real” (w her arm candy carole) but when B, who actually does keep it real, is around heather is on backstage — Classic “mean girl” behavior. Once again carole is just not pretty to me :/ I used to like it for her personality and thought that made her classy but this season she just looks skinny and raggedy, w a trashy personality. :/
I have loved watching Bethenny take Heather down a few notches this season. For some reason Bethenny’s bad behavior had never bothered me as much as Heather’s and sometimes Carole’s.
Heather acted like a real asshole this episode. Really bitch? You’re gonna cry cuz there’s a naked dude around? Carole is a lackey. She’s Heather’s lackey and is trying to be Bethenny’s lackey too. Good for Luann for getting some. Ramona is a selfish jackass who throws everyone under the bus. Luanna shouldn’t even have been involved in that conversation. She got hers and her guest left. Carole and Heather owe her an apology for blaming her just because Ramona told them to go talk to her. They should know by now that Ramona says whatever to save her own skin. They also owe Dorinda an apology for the way they spoke to her when she was just an innocent bystander. LMAO at Kristen trying to throw herself by saying she talked to the house manager. She’s the definition of “peanut gallery.”
Carole has let herself become a lackey – too bad, she could have been a much cooler character if not for this. If shoes were on the other feet, Heather would be insisting on apologies from Lunn and Dorinda.
I have no idea about heather’s history, I won’t assume, but sometimes when people have super powerful reactions like that to invasions of privacy/safety, etc. it’s coming from somewhere. I am extremely, extremely private and guarded that way because of traumatic events in my past- way more so than most people and i would definitely be way more upset than your average person to find a stranger, naked, sleeping anywhere near me in the house I’m sharing with my friends. I wouldn’t feel safe. I understand that seems dramatic to some people, but we all have different life experiences and different things trigger our fears/emotions. The difference being, I wouldn’t let those emotions come out in a rage at my friends, storming around barging into rooms. It’d be a conversation.
I’m shocked but not shocked at the responses here. Heather even said she’d have been thrilled to see Ramona in bed with a man, but NOT a strange naked man basically in her room. Shae, you brought up a good point if I’m reading you right. We don’t know that Heather hasn’t had a horrible crime committed against her, and the man scared her.
Heather is a married woman, who was sleeping and then walking around naked, not knowing a naked man was nearby. I would have freaked also. Maybe I watch to many true crime shows, but he could have stabbed Heather & Carole in their sleep. He could have fondled or raped them.
He was Ramona’s responsibility! She used and left him there for the other women. Did she toss the used condom in their room also? Heather respects her hubby, and tries to never do anything to shame him. This situation could have. Its just creepy. I think its unfair to say H or C don’t want the other women to have sex. They just don’t want to be put in danger after the fact.
Exactly, and if that were the case, if she did have some traumatic experience that led to these oversized reactions, why would Heather make herself more vulnerable by sleeping naked in a home she is visiting?
I seriously doubt she does that at home with children in the house- why here?
Who sleeps naked in a room full of cameramen? If LUANN had busted into Heather’s room to wake her ass up and she was naked, she would not have been happy.
I didn’t think about that but you may be right.
I get why Heather was upset but her reaction was so OTT. It could be due to something that happened to her in her past.
But she and Carole STILL owe Luann an apology. So rude.
Good perspective, Shae. I didn’t think about that as a possibility, but could be. I’m glad you wouldn’t rage at your friends like someone put it “going on a drug raid” though!
If they weren’t the RHONY, and they were normal people without camera ppl and bodyguards and house managers and stuff, I’d get it and would agree. However, since you know all those people are in the house, she was completely overreacting. Also, like you mentioned, it was the way she went about it that rubbed me the wrong way. She was itching for a bitching. Plus, she did this last season too when they brought home the pirate. She has an MO for this kind of thing.
“Itching for a bitching” ! I love that phrase Shae, it’s going in my vocabulary. It describes Heather too T this season. Bethenney has definitely gotten under her skin.
Keep your strange with you…bad on Ramona. Busting into someone’s room….bad on Heather and Carole. Let’s get to the important stuff….Lu looked fricken awesome the morning after. Girl has a great shape and those shades were everything.
@SaraK I totally agree with you on both points! And, yes — Luann can rock a hangover like no one else. Her “don’t be like uncool” line will be a HW classic. 🙂
@ SaraK
I had the same reaction to Luann’s body in that swimsuit the next morning.
Her abs are like a 25 year old! She’s got a great figure!
Luann used to drive me nuts in the earlier years but she’s growing on me for some reason…that will totally become a classic HW line. The delivery, the sunglasses, the outfit contrasted with Heather rampaging around all disheveled.
Really kinda crazy to me that Luann can be such a stickler for proper manners, consideration and etiquette when it suits her, but when it comes to having the courtesy to see your guest out, or keep him in your room with you so as not to disturb/alarm your housemates, she sees no issue. Albeit Ramona did this, not her, but you would think with her aversion to the “f” bomb used by anyone she might also take issue with strange naked men sleeping nearby unannounced and unattended lol
But like other posters explained, I think she 100% does see carole and heather’s point, and is probably pretty embarrassed to find her guy was married, but would rather deflect by fixating on her “outrage” over the ladies barging into her room and concocting some nonsense about them wanting to catch her “in the act” (absurd) than cop to it. Heather and Carole went way overboard with the reaction, but their point was valid, as is Luann’s about their dramatics.
Ramona is a fucktard for talking the talk but not walking the walk. You want to be a single lady playing the field, own it, don’t lie and imply it was your friend, you didn’t screw that guy, and you have no idea how he got there. That makes it pitiful.
I can’t stand Heather and Luann needs to come out and be the gay man that she is
As an older woman with a daughter about the same age as some of the housewives I am embarrassed for all of them. They are acting like 15 year olds on Spring Break or students in Junior High. I have never known any women who act so ridiculous but then I don’t hang with too many single women who are apparently desperate to shack up with anything with a penis. All of them are unpleasant and not really true girlfriends in any good sense of the word. I see why the ratings are down and I can barely stand to watch this mess. I used to like Carole but she’s showing her true colors (which are dark and snarky) and Ramona and Sonya are hopeless. Dorinda is confusing and Heather is just NASTY and condescending. Bethenny is who she’s always been so no surprises there. You either love her or hate her. Kristen…a waste of air waves and space and “Bedazzling” Really? I stopped doing that when I was a teenager. I would possibly buy the jeans if they were plain but not full of glue, feathers and fake stones. THe show has jumped the shark. Would anyone in their right mind really want to hang with any of these women?
Speaking of “bedazzling” and I know it’s off subject a bit, but did anyone else crack up when Dorinda used the apartment coasters and glued them on the pocket of the jeans she was doing? She told Bethanny she thought they were decorations to be used. Funny stuff.
that was wonderful
I would have been upset too. Sleep with whomever you choose, but keep them in your own room until you escort them out the door. To put the guy into another room on another floor where others were sleeping and unaware of his presence, in my opinion was out of line and these days, it is just not safe.
Jrleaguer, you said it better than I did, I totally agree. Why didn’t Ramona just ask Sonja to take Bethenny’s room? Now that would have avoided any problem…guess I answered my own question.
After watching this episode I must say Sonja is a better person than I am. After berating her and “exposing” her all season long I would have reverted to a petty immature person and thrown their fling in their faces for the rest of the season. 🙂
With that being said, I understand Heather’s point but she acted like a “twat”. They guy had already left, she could have waited until both ladies woke up and discussed it over breakfast. If she had woken me up in that manner, I might have assisted her with ‘ a dip in the pool”.
I think Heather and Carole acted completely ridiculous. Okay, Ramona brought a guy back and possibly fucked him.. She then decided she didn’t want to sleep in the same bed as him and he was too drunk to get himself home. They were staying in a house with an unoccupied bedroom. So the guy slept in the unoccupied bedroom (also, just because the bedroom had a connecting bathroom with heather’s room does NOT mean he was sleeping in her room) and when he woke up in the morning he let himself out. No one was hurt, nothing was stolen. Some of the girls decided to have a good time. Some of the girls decided to act like miserable bitches. End of story.
Heather should be so lucky that she should wake up and find herself the unintended target of some random, naked mans unbridled lust. Her voice alone would cause a man to castrate himself… oh wait that explains her wimpy husband.
The real issue here is- why is Heather sleeping naked with carole? who sleeps naked with their friends? why the necessity of Heather sharing a room with carole when bethenys rooms is vacant. Im so confused.
Those two are so malicious and judgmental. Carol ate random drugged gummy bears at a party she went to with some guy she met a week ago- but suddenly she is afraid of getting raped and murdered in a house filled with other women, security, staff etc, on an island with only a few points of entry and exit.
Heather is jealous because the other women are getting it. I doubt that wimp of her husband knows how to eff the shit out of her, until she is a quivering mass of nerves on the floor ( yes! its a wonderful feeling, i highly recomend it)
This was a set up and so pathetically transparent. They wanted to humiliate Luann by catching her en flagrant delicto, so to speak, as some sort of ill conceived pay back for Luann calling carole out for dating her nieces (ex?) bf.
On some instinctual level carole knows that this thing with the 28 year old is going no where. Yeah she may have him for now, but sooner or later this issue of children and he/her wanting to have them or not is going to be a big deciding factor.
The other factor is that most of his friends are prob his age. Im sure their gfs are their age or younger, trust, they will start snickering behind her back about how old she is, making comments about will his mommy let him come out to play (ive seen it happen many times). sooner or later he will leave her, it takes a strong, strong man to resist the allure of a younger kitty kat.
I really think it’s unfair to insult Heather’s husband. I’ve noticed a few of the commenters have. He wasn’t even there and seems quite nice. I thought he looked almost embarrassed by Heather that night at the table at Dorinda’s house in the Berkshires. And I could be wrong, but I thought that there were two beds in Heather and Carole’s room. I don’t think they were sleeping in the same bed.
Carole and Heather were blaming the wrong person. Both sides right but talk about an overreaction. Meanwhile Ramona the ApologizerBunny was just sitting there like she was clueless that that was HER guy. The nerve!
Carole was shocked there was a man in the house. This from the woman getting high on gummy bears who puked in the taxi and slept with the chef she just met. Ok.
It seemed to me that :
1) the producers ran out of material and had to tape a series of meetings of groups rehashing the same issue over and over. The naked guy discussion deserved one segment, and they took the entire hour to revisit it.
2) It made me wonder how much tape is on the cutting room floor of these women manufacturing situations like this where some create a situation, some overreact and others rehash it over and over?
3) The hour felt like a good deal of wasted time to me. I do understand that there are frayed feelings afterward and appreciate all the discussion above, but still think they could have shifted to other topics/events if they had them in the can. Either there is much more to come about this next week or they ran out of material at the end of the season.
After the morning after reactions, move on! .
I said pretty much the same thing above. so hypocritical.
There was a whole lot of manufactured dram, no doubt. Was it Heather who said that Naked Man was in the kitchen having a juice when she came downstairs? In that case, I’m not sure the tirade was as spontaneous as they would like it to appear.
The follow up to this nonsense ad infinitum at the bedazzling (ho-hum) work party was absurd and BORRRRRING!
It’s weird… I am trying to imagine if that could happen on one of our girls trips. We are all 50 and have been together since grade school / Jr. High.
I could actually see a couple of them possibly doing that and I think most of us would laugh at them and the hilarity of it. But a few of these friends would be all judgy about it.
However, Heather so over-reacted… She should have vented with Carole and hashed it out with the rest of them later after they woke up.
Don’t wake someone up with a hangover! That is REAL girl-code.
I agree Pip. I think it would have been more entertaining had Carole and Heather just had their own hashing it out session and then addressed it when the other women stumbled from their beds with their hangovers under control.
I’m going to say it. Carole should have calmed Heather down. Not that she is responsible for Heather’s reactions, but I think as her friend, she should have said “hey, let’s go get breakfast and address it when everyone is awake.” Instead, she fed into it. And I get it. Heather was ride or die with Carole over the Aviva nonsense last year. But, a real friend would have told Heather that she was doing too much. Or, to put it in a way that Heather would understand, “slow your roll, mamma.”
Yep. I agree.
I like Carole, but she should have calmed Heather the fuck down before she went on her rampage. That’s what friends do… They tell ya when you are right, and they tell you when you are wrong (very gently).
“Is your jewelry still here”?
“Yes”
“Is your wallet still here”?
“Yes”.
Okay then, no harm done.
If you are sharing a house with these crazies, be prepared and next time use the safe.
AND lock the door to your suite. And maybe sleeping naked isn’t the best idea when on vacation with these guys.
I loved Bethenny’s talking head, during lunch with Carole. She was mimicking Dorinda perfectly. I laughed out loud!
that was 100% awesome lol
This is rare, but I’m sorta kinda maybe team Heather/Carole on this issue. While I would have never reacted the way they did, hookup 101 says you don’t allow your guest to roam your home unattended if staying with us. The Countess should know such etiquette.
Also, Luann needs to stop going on cast trips. She makes everything mean Bethenny/Ramona said about her in those earlier episodes about her sleeping around and being a whore that much more true. It just makes me feel bad for Sonja, because Luann judges her in front of others but likes her ish to be on the hush hush. Team Sonja/Kristen/Bethenny/Dorinda this season for sure!!
That being said, Heather going on a rampage in full on tears was INSANELY ridiculous. Like Dorinda, Bethenny and Sonja all losing their mind at different points this trip, I’m just going to chalk it up to “Housewife Cast Trip Stress Syndrome”.
Nobody has commented on the fact that early in the day it appeared that they had checked into the Fancy Pants Resort Hotel with the Dutch Name, but then were back at the house that night. I guess the Fancy Pants Resort was only willing to pony up for a days-worth of publicity?
Yes, we talked about that in last weeks recap.
I know this is not particularly relevant to the most recent show, but I have to ask…am I the only one disgusted by Bethenny invoking her desire to have time with her daughter as an excuse? (I ask as a general Bethenny fan). Did anyone say to her, between the crying fits, that if you want to spend time with your daughter, go spend time with her and don’t sign a contract to do a show that will take you away from her? You don’t need the money. Is it just for publicity and general fame whoring? If so, be honest and say that you enjoy the attention of being on TV and you accept that you will have less time to spend with your daughter as a consequence, Ms. “I am real.”
She has to share custody with her estranged husband who is not exactly accommodating in the least.
On two occasions she was hesitant about going someplace because of her schedule with her daughter and got upset: 1) she went and showed up in the berkshires anyway 2) she went on the trip anyway for 3 of the 5 days.
I find none of that unreasonable in any way. I don’t get “disgusted” when I see somebody in pain like that who’s trying to manage the fact she can’t be with her kid 24/7 because she has to live separately from her ex husband. I think it’s far more about that issue than the time the housewives take from it.
Again…if time with her daughter is such a precious commodity, then it should be a priority over doing a TV show that will necessitate taking you away from her. Bethenny knows this and made this choice. So bawling on camera elicits very little sympathy for me. I am sure her divorce is a nightmare, but that’s all the more reason not to fame whore and worry about what somebody is saying about you in some New York tabloid rag.
This is weird. Carole said she’s going to England to pick up her husband’s ashes, but I just found this.
“On Aug. 7 a small group of friends gathered at a Long Island summer home to belatedly celebrate Radziwill’s 40th birthday. “There was a peacefulness about him,” says one. Three days later he checked into New York Presbyterian Hospital, where he died within hours. The following Friday, loved ones met at dusk on an East Hampton beach and, as others had done so recently for his best friend John, cast Radziwill’s ashes into the sea.”
They might have cast some into the ocean & put the rest in an urn in a church. We spread my aunt’s ashes in multiple locations. You get a lot of ashes from a human body. >