I thought I would just start this recap with a picture of Meghan that we can all appreciate. This was her Halloween attire for her first Halloween party with her new husband. Someone commented that is was a great use of her wedding dress. I have started two “hate” threads in my 3-4 years of blogging. And the one for her was before I even saw an single episode. Click here to see who the other lucky recipient was.
Moving on to tonight’s episode of Real Housewives of Orange County it should be a rollercoaster of emotions. BTW, I think I need to put nine lemons in a bowl and put it in my financial sector. I keep meaning to do that every time I see Shannon’s tagline.
Meghan
As Jim is doing all the moving while Meghan talks about how she does everything in the move. The she takes a phone call from Shannon and invites her to her Bunko party the next night. Instead of Meghan gracefully accepting the invitation she decides to go in on Shannon again. Shannon looks awesome but she has on a full face of makeup. Meghan refused to give Shannon an answer tells her she will get back to her. As Shannon says, “The balls on her!” Shannon calls back a few minutes later to tell Meghan that the whole concept of needing to prove herself to Meghan is ridiculous and she is welcome to come or not. Good for you Shannon.
Tamra
Tamra and Vicki are at a spa talking about the wonders of grandchildren. Vicki thinks being a grandma will soften Tamra’s cold black heart. Then we have the infomercial part of the show. We are shown Vicki’s naked ass with no blurring! Actually, it was a great ass for someone of her age. I’d swap with her for sure.
Heather
Heather takes the kids for haircuts. Heather whines that she has to do everything. Yes, Heather, that is called being a mother. Oh joy, more fireworks are happening. This makes four nights in a row.
Heather does an appearance on Botched to have something cut out of her hand. WTF is in her hand? A plantar wart?
Vicki
Vicki and Brooks meet with the holistic doctor to talk about Brooks nutritional treatments. Brooks completed three rounds of Chemo and his doctors are not happy with the results so far. I would like to be locked up for 30-60 days and just do whatever this woman says. I’d even do the coffee enemas. Except I could not hold it for 15 minutes.
Shannon
Shannon is planning her Bunko party. She says for less than 20 people she does her own cooking. David freaked Shannon out as she was cooking talking about some woman he ran into. Shannon thought it was the other woman but it wasn’t. It was a really weird scene. I feel bad for Shannon. Shannon says that David left her during the affair. Shannon can’t stop replaying things in her mind. It has only been six months since David’s last contact with the other woman.
I am trying to remember whose Bunko party I went to. It was a real big thing for awhile. I think I went to one game and just drank and didn’t play. I love games but it seemed like the women were deadly serious. Drinking and gossiping seemed more fun. It was a work crowd somewhere.
Meghan is the first to arrive and Shannon is very gracious. Shannon gives Meghan the wines she bought for the charity auction. Meghan takes it as a dig. Shannon has already said she doesn’t drink wine, and she bought wine just for the party.
Tamra is trying her hand at real estate again. Jeana is at the party. OMG that horrific 80s party was a Bunko party too. Vicki and Tamra find out that Jim is only in town about 50% of the time. Vicki did a hilarious talking head about the red flags in their marriage. I love Vicki this season!
Vicki asks to use Shannon’s land line phone for some reason. Why can’t she use her cell? Apparently she called Brianna perhaps to check on her mother? Brianna tells her that her mother died. Okay this can’t be fake. This is horrible. I can’t watch this. Oh God, this is horrible. It just keeps getting worse. Why don’t those idiots get up and move when Brooks comes in? I hope Brooks makes it through his cancer. OMG. Vicki just said she is now more afraid about Brooks.
If you haven’t seen this yet, and you are the emotional type, I suggest you change the channel as soon as Vicki leaves to use the phone. It’s extremely unnerving and sad and will stick with you for the rest of the night. I will probably have nightmares. I wish I could unsee that.
Next Week: I knew Meghan would make this about her. David’s kids join in the abuse. Tamra’s grandbaby arrives.
Tamara is not lying. I cried like a baby and imagined it happening to me one day. I’ll have a nervous breakdown. But I am curious about the landline phone. Maybe Vicki doesn’t have good service? Or I would imagine Brianna knew they were filming and didn’t want it on speaker.
I am not saying Vicki’s grief is not real but…..NONE of them is ever without a cell phone nor do they lack service. Vicki certainly had service when she called her brother a few minutes later. It makes no sense to use Shannon’s house phone and then call Brianna long distance. Guess it makes a more dramatic picture when collapsed on the floor with a phone cord dangling from your hand. Something is rotten in Demark and Bravo was in on it.
Meh. If I have a choice, I always use a landline instead of a cellphone. Why? Because I like to hear the person I’m talking to. Even with today’s greatly improved mobile technology, a landline connection is still much superior.
My experience in Southern California is that service is spotty anyway. Yes, there is service everywhere, but due to the terrain (or whatever) I’ll be at a full 5 bars standing in one spot, then walk 3 feet, it goes to 1 (or no) bars, then go another 3 feet and it’s something else again. Who wants to deal with that if you don’t have to?
Despite your saying that you don’t think Vicki’s grief is not real, you are clearly implying that the scene was staged. That’s pretty low. I don’t believe that it was.
I seriously think Vicki has to put her cell on speaker while filming hence the landline. Brianna probably said you need to call me, privately and it’s urgent.
I would rather not second guess someone who just went through this sad loss. She already has vile Meghan casting odd doubts about Brooks’ cancer. Let’s not add in analyzing how she took the phone call about her mom’s death. Gheesh. I’d rather chance being naive and trusting than cynical and hurtful in this kind of situation.
Yeah I was thinking something was hinky also. I just don’t want to believe it. If it is and is ever exposed what could they say in their defense, “Oh well it did happen like that and we just did a reenactment ” They do a lot of editing so we really only saw Vicki walk away into the hallway I didn’t her her ask to use the phone so maybe family couldn’t get a hold of Vicki on her cell because it was in her purse or it was loud so somehow they got Shannon’s phone number, but that doesn’t really make sense either . All time low ever if it was staged. All time .
If you really believe that was staged…. well I don’t know what to think of you. It’s pity mostly. Either you are stupid or a sociopath and pity works in either case.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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No she does ask those a landline phone – I heard it. But again, who cares how she called scene was sad and my heart goes out to Vicki. However- I don’t think Brooks has cancer. At ALL. Not even stage 1,
Yes, I thought the exact same thing. They didn’t explain what led her to make a call in the middle of the party and especially why ask for a landline. Everyone used their cell after and they got reception. It was very weird. They need to say what prompted that much less why no one called Vicky when the mom passed. It’s odd she found out from calling someone. The whole thing was very hinky how it went down, but it was horrific of course. No matter when exactly it really happened, it was actually I think past the line of what should be on tv. It felt obtrusive although Andy said Vicky allowed the footage. My heart goes out to her and that was too hard to watch. Any of us who are lucky enough to have a wonderful mom- that’s our worst nightmare besides the loss of a child. I don’t care how old you are, your mom is the universe.
It looked as though Brianna texted Vicki to call her on a land line. Perhaps for privacy. Andy just announced on WWHL that there is a Bravo video up with Vicki discussing this epi. I have not watched as yet.
That would be my guess. Also anecdotally I’ve noticed that it is easier to overhear a mobile conversation than a landline due to how older landlines are designed/built I guess.
She probably just wanted that phonecall to be spared the usually Bravo loudspeaker treatment. Plus Bravo would find it more difficult to subtitle a landline call than a mobile call I’d imagine.
I just wanted to say one more thing…like the old wives table…one life moves on and another moves in (tamara’s grandbaby). Life is so funny.
Crap I wish I would have read your comment before I made one.. So to my comment above ,,..Um Never mind . lol
I cried and cried, imagining it was me. I feel so sorry for Vicki. She was saying all the things I was thinking if it was me. “Whose gonna check on me now”? Oh – I can’t watch that again, the pain was very real. Maybe Vicki was charging her phone, or like someone said, maybe Brianna told her to call from a land line so the news wasn’t on speaker. Its the saddest and then Heather called Terry, cause the pain was very real, to check on her own family. So hard to watch.
I thought that I saw Vicki looking at her cell phone to read a text message.
Brianna is well aware of how filming works. My bet is she sent her a text as people have said asking her to call in private and that it was urgent. So Vicki getting a text like that from her daughter uses Shannon’s phone. Lots of people use landlines still. I recently had an emergency and a stranger was trying to help me in a public parking lot and had to explain where she was to 911. That is a reason right there to have a landline at home I never thought of until in an emergency situarion…but anyway I do not in any way shape or form think this was staged. Bless Brooks heart for coming to her so soon.
Exactly! Speaker phone! Great catch.
@Librarygirl. That comment I made was supposed to post below. I was posting something else to you…I think that is exactly what happened. I would rather talk on a landline and would rather do so in private. Cell phones are great but the reception isn’t always .
I don’t understand why any of you are questioning the use of a landline. What difference does it make? My mind NEVER went there for even a second. All I saw was horrible grief. Poor, poor Vicky. I lost my mom when she was 60 and I haven’t gotten over it yet. I cried right along with Vicky. And like Tamara, I wish that I could “unsee” it. So why are you guys fixated on why she used a landline? And how anyone could believe that Vicky would want to stage this kind of scene. IDGI.
Poor Vicky…THAT had to be the purest and most raw pain I’ve ever experienced on the HW’s. Wow…I found myself crying too.
Oooof, that was tough. Vicki’s emotions were raw. Very, very sad, losing your Mom. I can’t imagine it.
I too, shed some tears.
I have seen the changes in Vicki the last couple seasons. She is so likable now. I’m glad she has Brooks.
I know, poor Vicky. I wimped out and left the room.
It was a terrible scene! I cried like a baby….Both of my parents are dead and I understood exactly how she felt…
Terry Dubrow seems like a man who would ask a woman to sculpt his initials into her pubic hair. Just sayin’
That made me LOL
Thanks Xanadude. I am now laughing and crying at the same time. Crying about Vicki losing her mother then I see your comment. I needed that.
Ha!
Hilarious!! Thank you, Xanadude. 🙂
I needed a hearty belly laugh. Thank you!
Great comment! And probably true!
I love Vicki and my heart is broken for her. Those gut-wrenching, gutteral, primal screams of pain were just heartbreaking. I cried and cried and cried. And cried some more. So sorry for her.
3 things. I’m so sad for Vicky’s loss. It’s really brave of Shannon to expose so much of her marriage. And lastly, Meghan might be the worst human being on reality TV ever. Even Brandy and Porsha have fans out there. I can’t believe this woman is going to discuss the possibilty of their mother’s death with her step-daughters next week. She’s evil.
I hope you are wrong. She is over stepping boundaries with her step children and reality TV. If she does that I hope Bravo chooses not to air it…no…..I hope her husband mans up and tells her that she has to right to discuss anything about his ex-wife’s health with her children. That is up to the mom to do.
Thanks for the heads up, TT. Lost my mom recently and don’t need to relive it, so will skip this. So sorry for Vicki.
So sorry for your loss Katherine. I don’t care how old you are losing your parents is like losing a lifeline. Hugs
My thanks to TT also. I’m not watching this episode either — far too painful.
Thanks, Sunday. You are right about that. From some of the comments, I deduced that Vicki was lamenting that there would be no one who would care about her the way her mother did. Truer words were never spoken.
I just lost my mom too, in March. You have my sympathies, Katherine. And thanks, Tamara, for the warning. Watching that scene with Viki would just rip my heart out again.
Thanks, Classy. I am sorry for your loss.
Also, Heather complaining about Terry always working. Give me a fucking break. Most people have to raise their families and struggle to afford the necessities. Heather is home bossing around her nanny.
NO ONE feels sorry for you, Heather. That’s life, and at least you get to do it as a 1%er.
I couldnt have said it better pip. Let me get the world’s smallest violin to play for Heather.
Dear Heather, someone has to work to afford the Chanel toilet paper and gold and diamond encrusted toilets for the new house!
I was disgusted watching Heather try to make Vicki’s loss more about her by deciding to call Terry just because she wanted to tell him how sad she was for Vicki and that she loves Terry… just to try to get some more airtime from Bravo. What a dramatic actress. Not movie star. *blech*
That’s so funny!
I really don’t think Heather tried to make this about her by calling her husband. I would have done the same thing – check in to hear my husband’s voice and make sure my child was ok. I think it’s a very natural thing to do. Plus, Terry is friendly with Brooks. Maybe she suggested he call him. We see so little of what is filmed….
I’d call my husband, too.
I’m sorry if you don’t understand the need for someone to do that. I definitely didn’t read that moment as acting.
I agreee with calling the husband. I don’t think that was staged.
The kids want to see their Dad. This is true of families of all income levels.
I don’t get any “poor me” from Heather at all. I DO get that she wishes to see her husband and the kids wish to see their father more. Is that so unreasonable?
Ericzku-
I respectfully disagree.
Clearly this is Heather’s storyline. Woe is me, I am taking care of four kids so my husband can afford to build me this gazillion dollar mansion.
This is life in the 2000’s. People work their asses off if the want that lifestyle. Or they cheat, embezzle, and end up in the klink like some of the other Bravo people.
I have zero sympathy on this one. My Dad was a pilot and I didnt get to see him for long stretches at a time. My Mom also worked as a child psychologist, made dinner, tucked us in, etc. We had a cleaning lady once a week and that was the extent of it. No chef, no nanny.
Sorry it’s tough on the kids, but
many, many families don’t afford the luxuries of the help she has. And many kids don’t see their Dad’s for long stretches. I think Heather is the type who just needs something to gripe about.
Totally agree with you, ericzku..
I can’t help it, I still like Heather and Terry, except I do cringe sometimes.
Lol…
I agree. I hate when people think/say that wealth should equate to having zero problems in life.
@Spencer-
If you think that is what I said, then you have misinterpreted my comment.
The wealthy have problems too. But what did she think would happen when he took on Botched, and proceeded with his private practice? Someone’s got to pay for that Hotel they’re building.
I do think it is sad that the kids don’t get to see their father more. They should probably readdress their priorities, and scale back on their luxuries so the family can be together more.
Terry loves to work but he needs to readdress his priorities. Those kids are growing fast. He’ll miss them when they’re gone. >
I completely agree with you. I think she has a dry sense of humor that sometimes gets mistaken for other things (I love a dry sense of humor – and I enjoy Terry and Heather. I know I’m the odd man out here. That is okay.) She wasn’t nagging him about it at all, just matter of fact that his schedule is overly full for the next seven months and that the kids were missing their dad a bit. He doesn’t have a job where he can take the kids with him for a day or even a couple of hours either (like my dad sometimes did). At least she knows that it isn’t because of an affair!) She’s on a show that asks what is going on in her life, and this is part of it – she isn’t asking for sympathy.
Am I rich? No. Are we able to meet our needs and then some? Yes. Do we take great vacations and enjoy my husbands Christmas bonuses and commission checks-of course! But it is hard when your husband works all the time. Mine is not a surgeon but he works 6 out of 7 days, 13 hours a day (Cadillac dealership service director) and I would give up whatever for a 9-5 job for him and weekends home. Like Heather said, it is hard being mom and dad to both.
I tried to dislike Heather last season, but I like her. Most of the women, except for Shannon, have stated Heather is a good friend. She may be a fancy pants (moi- pretentious?)but I think she’s okay.
I don’t really care for Shannon. She is the most passive- aggressive person. It always seemed to me that Shannon would look for stuff to get angry with Heather. I think Heather is close to her kids and loves her husband. I think Terry, being a surgeon, loves to operate. Most surgeons are workaholics. The only way to heal is with cold hard steel. If Terry wanted regular office hours, he would be a dermatologist.
An actual wealthy housewife? Yeah. I can see how watching the rich be rich would be unwelcome on Bravo. We’re so used to those who claim wealth and deal with their criminal closeted skeletons.
I would take a thousand Heathers missing her husband over one Nene or Theresa or Gretchen claiming some bullshit lifestyle that’s truly not theirs.
It does seem unreasonable that she’s building a home that’s probably costs between $15,000,000-$20,000,000 -way over their agreed upon budget and her husband is absent because he’s working to pay for it. I don’t believe for a second that this home is just her husbands dream-it’s her dream home as well. She’s not someone that garners much sympathy-I don’t dislike them per se but they’re both show off, fame whores (like all reality stars), Heather just manages to look more, “classy” doing it in her Channel dresses.
@amyinlasvegas, I have to disagree with you about Heather. She walked into another room away from the cameras ( that followed her) to call Terry to tell him she loved him. Those were her exact words at the end of the phone call. If I should find myself in an upsetting situation, the first person I call is my husband.
I totally agree shellebelle. Heather was clearly extremely shooken up, and her phone call to Terry was beyond genuine. It was emotionally gut wrenching and hard for us to watch through the tv, and we all knew ahead of time that this had already happened. Imagine how difficult it was to have actually been there when Vicky, her FRIEND got that shocking news.
I was surprised how hard this was to watch, personally. I figured it had to be some sort of “re-enactment” with the landline thing and all, but wow, that was brutal to watch. My Dad had a very long illness and then was in hospice for 9 days before he passed, I thought I was prepared. When he passed I had that same “bring my mommy/daddy back” hyperventilating thing. Had tears in my eyes watching this.
So sorry for your Dad Rebecca. I totally agree. Hugs.
I lost my daddy in the blink of an eye, and my mama had a long illness and died slowly. My conclusion is that it doesn’t matter how you lose a parent; you’re going to go through the pain. Even now, 20+ years later, I sometimes think of myself as an orphan in times of stress. Blessings to Vicki. She is having a great season. She looks the best she has ever looked, she has compassion for others, and exudes a new confidence.
OK it’s really hard IMO to feel for Heather as a harried mom considering she has a personal assistant, personal chef for the whole family and I suspect at least 1 nanny to help with the kids.
Haven’t seen the episode yet but I suspect this hair cut outing was the exception not the rule for their routine.
I was crying watching Vicki. Her pain was palpably. I wonder if Brianna called production who then put Vicki on the landline. So horrible to have to relive one of the worst moments of your life on TV.
Yes I think so too.
Oops that was supposed to go under Josie’s “Brianna called production” comment.
So sorry for your loss Vicki..
I bet Brianna called production and asked them to have Vicki call her privately and on a land line. Cell calls are not private and are filmed. Production probably followed to see what was up.
I watch reality for fun and stupid rich people drama NOT to be traumatized. Seriously, this is a new low even for Bravo. The cameraman had the nerve to zoom in too. Ugh.
I feel for both Vickie and Shannon.
But come on……isn’t this Vickie’s tenth year on reality TV? I think Vickie is a very smart woman. Surely she has thought through over many a time the many what ifs that could happen while filming. It’s probably spelled out in the contract she signed.
I feel the same way about Shannon. Would it have killed her to keep tight lipped about any marital problems? No. But she might have been dropped maybe even while filming this current season much like Luann was during last season’s the RHWONYC.
I’m not saying they are bad people for this but guessing that this experience with fame is very addicting and possibly hard to let go of no matter what personal price you end of paying.
Or am I just being way too dramatic about all this?
Vicki’s heartbreaking call had to be real. I can’t imagine Bravo ever asking her to recreate that kind of sadness. On a lighter note, Meghan is really high on my shit list…her whole “old lady” B.S. is starting to grate on my nerves. Every woman on the show is over 40; most of the viewers are as well. But I’m sure she’s too stupid to realize that.
I’m Meghan’s age, but when the likes of Meghan, Brandi, etc. start saying shit about people’s age or make fun of going through menopause, etc. I want to slap them. We’re all (hopefully) going to get there one day. It’s disgusting for a woman to put anyone, let alone another woman, down based on age. The lowest of the low do that, for example Meghan and Brandi.
Shouldn’t it be a femino-no?
Like as if being a woman in this day and age wasn’t already hard enough, now you have ‘younger’ women using female sexuality against other women?
Fuck Brandi and Meghan.
I truly tried to give Meghan the benefit of the doubt this far. I haven’t watched the dvr of last night’s show, but from what I’m reading, it’s not looking good for her behavior.
Exactly. I’m 34 now, and it’s funny to me how much I thought I knew ten years ago and how much I’ve changed. I only assume that at 44, I will look back at 34 with the same feelings- you grow and learn. That’s why I never shit on any women older than me, you have no idea until you’re there and they are usually much wiser for it lol
I ditto your comment on Meghan and her old lady remarks. Who does that remind you of? Yes folks…we have a new Brandi. 🙁
She needs to stop the old lady stuff and Shannon needs to stop with the 30-year-old stuff. Was the woman David had an affair with younger? Shannon seems super crazed about Shannon’s age.
I find the age comments very irritating. Yes, she’s 30, we get it — Shannon is making such a big deal out of that, it simply makes her look insecure.
The psycho giraffe constantly calling the others old constantly makes her look catty. The reality is, yes, 30 is younger than the other women, but so what… She will be in her 40s and beyond before she knows it, and shouldn’t be such a judgmental ass about something that is inevitable. It just shows what kind of person she really is.
Age is just a number in this case, and not indicative of manners, elegance, compassion or taste.
“Psycho giraffe.” Ding, ding, ding! >
Sorry, that should have read “age is just a number, and in this case…”
I think people are making an issue of Meghan’s age because she behaves like a petulant child. I would too if I was 45 plus and some 30 year old, acting like a 20 year old, is berating me and being obnoxious. Have some respect.
@Shae – I think the ladies would be wise to stop referring to her age too. But, you’re right that she acts like a petulant child and I think that’s what drives it mostly. Most 30 years olds are far, far more mature than Meghan. Her age is really a non-factor here except that it just makes her know-it-all, disrespectful behavior stand out even more.
The only Bunco party I ever went to was when my neighbor begged me to fill in for someone who didn’t show up. I think it’s just an excuse for women to get together and drink. It’s not my idea of fun.
My thoughts are all over the place. I was in a bunco group for a while, until it felt like a job to me. Has it just reached California? They’re giving me that impression. I’m 41 and in the south and women have been playing at least since I was in elementary school. Also, Heather and Meghan talking about the “cute” five bedroom rental. Like it’s friggin Hansel and Gretel’s. 5 bedrooms! Also, could Meghan be Edmonds’ beard? Those two have zero chemistry.
Re: the beard…I had the same thought!
Zero chemisty? It seems more like absolute hate.
If this beard thing is true he should at least have found some lady he likes.
They’ve had many Bunco parties on OC over the years.
No. I think he is just your typical caveman dick to women. Kissing and hugging might mess up his sports superstardom. Who only thins Women are good for sex and …. Doing stuff for you. My brother is law is one of these.
I’m cracking up at these comments. Yes, she’s a psycho giraffe. She totally, no judgment, looks like Caitlyn. And, absolutely, I haven’t seen a couple less into each other than these two. It’s ridiculous they’re newlyweds? They act like every reality show couple who is divorcing/on the verge of divorce but keeping it together for the kids, the money or the reality show. And after reading the comments, if Vicki explained she got a text to call in the landline for privacy, that absolutely makes sense. She shouldn’t have allowed any of that that to be on tv. It’s much too invasive. Horrific and too awful to watch.
I too suffered from some teacher bunko parties TT. Thank god for the few others who, like me, drank and talked shit about the others who were taking the game way too seriously.
Vicki’s mom seemed like funny, likeable lady. Even my dark heart was moved to tears watching Vicki sink to floor, wailing in pain.
* suffered through (and as a result suffered from) some teacher bunco parties
I know we are snarky, opinionated bunch but everyone of us cried for the OG from the OC. Brooks has even won me over.
Great to see Jeana and Shannon is growing on me. I prefer women closer to my age than say a Meghan.
Someone please tell me, what does the ‘OG’ mean??
Original gangsta
I thought either “Old Gal” or “Original Gal” LOL (laughing at myself).
@Angel, me too, lol 😉
Hahahaha! I guess since I was in the “OG” (wu tang clan!) generation I knew what it meant and never thought about anyone not knowing. I bet Vicki didn’t know til someone explained it. I love what your minds came up with to fill in through! Not laughing at you, but with you-old gal!
Thank you! xo
Couldn’t agree more. I actually am one of the few that have always liked whacky Shannon. Didn’t like Jena but found her good this time. Wouldn’t mind her back.. It was so clear that no matter what when it goes down you can count on who you can count on. I could even take Brook this episode.
I really like Jeana and would like to see her back. I find her to be funny and interesting in a no-nonsense kind of way.
Wow what a real moment that was with Vicki. I honestly thought the camera man would put the camera down any minute and comfort Vicki. That’s what I would have done. She was in such pain and I don’t think it was planned at all.
Original Gangster.
I was crying for Vicki. The only positive of that heartbreaking scene was Heather actually showing a vulnerable, softer side.
That scene with Vicki was horrible to watch. My parents refuse to speak to me (going on two years) because I made it known that they knew my brother was molesting me and didn’t do anything about it. Hearing her ask who was going to worry about her now, etc. are the things I think about daily. This episode left me sobbing and I hated seeing Vicki’s pain.
@stubb
I can’t imagine, and someone that has no clue who you are saying they are sorry is a mute point Even when you know the person sometimes it seems “I am sorry you have to deal with that” is all we know to say.
After all the what I won’t say- what I shall say /type is,good for you for speaking up. Your strength is admirable.
^^I second that, STUBBYG. <3
Thank you everyone for the kind words. That scene hit home hard and just had to vent a moment. I have been made to look like the bad person, so all your kind words make me realize I am not the bad guy. Sending hugs!
I’m so sorry for the loss of your parents but I’m very proud of you for speaking the truth. <3 Our secrets make us sick.
Amen!
Dear Stubby, I am so very sorry to hear. When my parents didn’t speak to me for two years it was very painful. I was so afraid something would happen. Being a mother, I don’t understand how a mother could do that. Hugs
I feel your pain. I was raised in a cult like religion. When I became an adult I left it. My parents, and brothers, disowned me and told me that they wanted to forget that I existed. My parents are both dead now. It’s something that I will have to deal with for the rest of my life. Hang in there and concentrate on the people who do love you.
Sweetie at, that was great advice, thanks so much!
When I first saw the promo for this I thought it was her Mom. I have to admit that I thought she was acting (in the promo). Seeing it all play out I was crying like I actually knew her. Yes, I am the emotional type. This was absolutely heartbreaking. Andy Cohen said on WWHL that he talked to Vicki about airing it. But she said that this is what she signed on for and so let it go. I can’t stand to see other people cry it breaks my heart it really does. She was so so heartbroken. OMW. Everything else that happened just seems like the foolishness that it is. Except for the David/Shannon moment that I agree TT was extremely weird. HE was so strange. I am getting creepy feelings from him this episode.
Vicki has been filming for so long that hopefully she did;t even notice the camera.
Thanks for the warning about just how raw the Vicki scene is, TT. I haven’t watched yet, so maybe I’ll just turn the sound down. I’m very close to my folks and have played through my head these kinds of scenarios a million times, but in the end people say there’s nothing you can do to prepare yourself for that moment.
Meghan asks Shannon to prove herself? Ugh, Maybe I’ll have to turn the sound down for that too since the combination of hearing Meghan’s voice and watching her ice cold bitchbot face makes me sick.
Can’t wait to hear Vicki talk about the red flags in the Edmonds marriage. I see Meghan talks in her blog again about Brooks and questions someone with Stage III getting enemas. Has she still not realized this cancer judgement is not garnering her any favor (when she flaps her yap about either Brooks or Jim’s ex, people get rightfully offended). TT, can you please purple pen every blog post this chick writes?
Jimmy wanted his new wife gone so he could go to happy hour.
The rest was terrible! My Mom and I had a disagreement today bc she doesn’t feel I have my clothes in seasonal order in my closet. Southern Mom. She is my best friend and I can’t even imagine.
I know right? He is in town a little over 50% of the time and he couldn’t stay or see the kids? I don’t like this man at all. He seems angry inside and not happy outside. That hug between them made me cringe with embarrassment for her it was so forced.
I’d feel bad for her if she wasn’t so horrible… But she deserves the marriage she has, even if just for torturing poor, crazy, fragile Shannon. I’ve had fragile moments in my life & I remember the people who chose to attack me when I was weak. Not cool.
Lady Cocotte, why do we have to be older before we recognize the truth? I say that when people show you who they are, believe them.
OMG wish I had read your post not to watch when Vicki answered the phone before I watched the show. It really broke my heart. I have lost my mother and it brought back all the same feelings and I had tears running down my cheeks. It doesn’t matter how old you are when you lose your Mommy. If you are close to her, you feel like an orphan. My Mother was a wonderful, smart, beautiful, loving woman whose wisdom was boundless and I was blessed to have had her be my mother. I wouldn’t be the person I am today without her. I understand Vicki’s pain and deep loss. Vicki, I’m praying for you that you’ll be able to find peace and comfort and she will be forever alive in your heart and memory.
Oh and one final thing. Never forget to tell those you love how much they mean to you. You never know what tomorrow holds and if you’ll get the chance again. Have no regrets.
I had already planned to make dinner for my mom tomorrow night but after this episode I really need it. In my family we always joke that when mom goes they have to send me to the loony bin. Or that I’ll jump in the casket. Except I’m not joking. My heart goes out to everyone that has lost their mom. I’m still in tears for Vicki…
Having breakfast with my mom and dad in the morning. I need to hug her really bad now. She is 91. So lucky she is still with me.
Including you, Hannah <3
I agree. I was a grown adult when my Mom moved to heaven. I think in some ways it is harder now than it was when she passed. So sorry for your loss. Hope time has brought you some peace.
I should have heeded your good advice, Tamara. I thought that after 27 years…wrong. It seems as if there is a common thread which unites all women when we share that heartbreak. Thank you for having a place where I could come.
Sending a thank you to Tamara too, for giving us a place to come with wonderful people who understand our pain and heartache. Many hugs to everyone!
I can’t believe that we are so jaded that we are wondering if Vicki’s reaction was real. I believe it was absolutely real. Why? Because I believe would tell production to fuck off if they asked her to recreate that moment.
I’m not loving Shannon so far. She is too zany or crazy or something for me.
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Re: Vicki… I know! Clearly that was real. What’s with all the speculation and innuendo?
I like Shannon’s zaniness. I think she and Vicki have much in common. They both don’t hide their feelings.
Watching Shannon and her husband’s relationship be dragged through the spotlight whilst it appears to be slowly dying, is too unpleasant for me to watch. I don’t find it enjoyable. I fastforward so many scenes this season – anything Shannon marriage related, Meghan related and the Dubrow house. It leaves me with very little to enjoy.
You are so right, but I do want to see Shannon succeed, either save the marriage or get out of it and be happy. I like her for some reason.
Can’t even read the other comments. Just crying so hard for vicki, my mom just died as well a few months ago and no matter how old you are or what your relationship is, you do just need your mom. Brooks, idk that you’ll ever read this but your stock just sky rocketed the way you just held Vicki.
So sorry for your loss Lisa. Hope you are dealing ok. I agree about Brooks he did a good thing this night. Sending you prayers of peace of heart and hugs.
I am so sorry for your loss, Lisa. <3
Love to you…
I hear you, sister. About the same timeframe for me. The loss is just now sinking in, and I hope that you – and Vicki – have people in your life who are understanding and loving.
That was too sad. It was good how all the women came around and held her until Brooks got there. Poor Vicky. Her mom was wonderful. I am glad it all happened months ago and Vicky’s had some time to heal, though I am sure it’s still so hard. I agree, that was real. Briana must have texted her to call on a land line. I wish they hadn’t shown the scene, frankly. Just let us know what happened and then jump ahead a couple of weeks.
I agree lisamia. Some things just need to be private. That’s not a storyline. That was real life and they could have taken that damn camera out of Vicki’s face. I understand she signed a contract but damn Bravo how about using a little human compassion.
Vicky is being a good sport about it now, but I agree, WTF Bravo.
Vicki’s a strong person and I root for her. Everyone deals with this sort of thing in their own way. Losing a parent is a hard thing that we all have to go through, but it’s inevitable, and much better than a parent losing a child, if you ask me. That’s what I thought when I saw the previews. That Vicki had lost one of her children. I was terrified for her.
Brooks is good for Vicki. He’s very sweet to her. Is it just me, or is Brooks kind of sexy?
Sexy in that aw shucks ma’am kind of way. They certainly do love each other.
Omg I thought the same after I saw him last night all concerned for her walking in. I was never really into them now I’m curious to watch their relationship develop.
Brooks does seem sexy, when being like that with Vickie. A man in love for real is very moving, so I hope it is what it appears to be at times lately. Its also rare. Yes Vickie did make me think of a mither losing a child, she was so devastated that it was hard to watch. I havent lost a parent yet and neither has my husband.
Holy shit ……….just read Vicki’s blog and I’m bawling. Wow it really doesn’t matter how long it’s been.
I am 22 minutes in and I just have to say I FUCKING HATE MEGAN or however she spells it. I fast forward as soon as she mentions “moving” for the millionth time…and we are only on ep 5, what a great story line. Maybe she could bring up the age difference again? Or he could ignore her again, just to keep it interesting? I also don’t give a crap about Shannon’s husband’s affair…she is a shrew. Let’s see if I muster up some feeling for Heather’s rich people problems or Vicki’s mom’s death (that one I can) but please no fake Tamara issues/Christ. This RH may also be done much like ATL.
The sight and sound of Vicki keening was heartbreaking.
Shannon is not my favourite wife; i find her very passive- aggressive. I do think inviting the FNG, Meghan, was very kind. My hate for the FNG has expanded by geometric proportions. She is vile. Tamra is toning way down, and I am liking Heather again.
It may sound horrid of me, but for some reason I can’t be angry at her husband for cheating. I just can’t. It may be due to her very ‘naggy’ passive aggressive nature. I know it is wrong. It really makes it hard for me to watch their scenes with therapists etc.
Imagine how their kids feel. Fuck that.
I like Shannon but I understand what you mean. She is angry and clinging trying to hold on to him and he seems to be pushing away. It is not easy to watch. They both are either courageous or stupid (maybe both) for putting it all out there. I do hope they make it.
I don’t see her as passive aggressive or any of that shit. She gives me the impression of being a depressed person, whatever the reason. That’s not easy for either of them. But he broke marriage vows. I don’t condone what he did, but I commend him for having the balls to admit it and I do believe Shannon is punishing him a la tori spelling and they will be no more after this year.
I don’t see her as passive aggressive or any of that shit. She gives me the impression of being a depressed person, whatever the reason. That’s not easy for either of them. But he broke marriage vows. I don’t condone what he did, but I commend him for having the balls to admit it and and to want to put in the work to fix it. I do believe Shannon is punishing him a la tori spelling and they will be no more after this year.
I understand what you mean. I don’t condone anything he did because no one should be betrayed and embarrassed in that way, but I find myself wondering how much he’s suffered because she is suffering.
I wish Shannon the best, but I have this nagging feeling that this whole thing with her being played out on TV will end tragically. I hope I’m wrong.
I can’t talk about Vicki’s loss because it’s too painful. But the preview of Meghan “bonding” with her stepdaughter by throwing her mother’s “impending” death in her face killed me. What a fucking bitch! The cruelty is strong with this one.
I took note of that scene. I think Meghan is just very shallow. That kind of stupidity at her age is inexcusable.
I agree and you said it well. Its like a part of Meghen is delighting in the ex wife’s illness and shes being very macabe about a private delicate matter. She feels the need to tell us that the ex isnt getting better and has Heather saying the woman is dying. I cant imagine how that would feel to be talked about like that. Then the next thing she says is how the charity event is for her to introduce herself to orange county society. Something is off with her and Jim, they are so unlikeable.
The cruelty is very strong with her! That is why I find her to be the worst housewife ever. She has a very special gift of cruelty.
It was horrible listening to Meghan’s talking heads this week while yoga paddle boarding or whatever.
“I’m a really cool stepmom. I can talk to Hailey about Twitter, Instagram and SnapChat…I get it, I’m with it, I’m cool, I’m hip. Her friends get it and I get it. A lot of mom’s don’t [insert bizarre Megan arrogant smirk].” Ok, what is “it” exactly? The only time a woman in her 30s should be uttering these words is if she’s being ironic. They have friends who probably already get “it.” I actually am considered a fairly cool mom because my teenage son and I still bond over music, concerts, just being there to talk. I happened to be a young mom. But, you don’t try to be cool. And, you don’t bond because you “know what the kids are into these days.” You just know your kid as an individual and be interested in their life.
Then, “I think because I’m closer in age with Hailey, she thinks that I can probably communicate and identify with her better than say…her own mother.”
Yeh, this really sounds like someone who feels for Leeann and her situation. Let’s make her feel irrelevant to her own daughter as she’s fighting for her life and according to Meghan may not see another high school dance. Why, why, why say this? Let this woman and her daughter be. Quit inserting yourself into everything. I would love to know what Leeann really thinks of Meghan.
Jim Edmonds could take a lesson from Brooks on giving hugs.
Why did Heather have to call Terry when everyone was comforting Vicki?
I wondered that myself. She could have waited until she got home. Incredibly insensitive, but I expect nothing less from a narcissist.
Wasn’t it Heather who called Brooks?
Yeah, Heather called Brooks and then called Terry right after, which I totally understand. I would have done the same thing. These women all met Vicky’s mom, probably more than once. It’s a shock. You grab on to what makes you feel safe when something like that happens.
Thanks, Lisamia. I’m sure I would have done the same thing, as well. She acted appropriately as far as I could see.
Because she was upset and that is her man and she wanted to? Big deal.
I felt the same as you, Jujue. If memory serves, Heather, did what she could by calling Brooks, and then went to a small hall(?) and called her husband in private. The call appeared to be short and focused on Vicki’s loss.
Agreed. I’d probably do the same thing. Spoke volumes to me about how close Heather and Terry are. She wasn’t grandstanding or making a big deal about her call to Terry, she just needed to talk to him. I thought it was sweet.
Heather is caring in the fact she called Brooks and arrange transportation I’m not taking that away from her. But as much as I hate giving Tamra kudos she’s known Vicki and the family for years and didn’t run to call Eddie.
I have no problem with Heather calling Terry, Vicki has said over and over they are the only one’s who ever gave Brooks a chance and they seem to have a real friendship as a couple. Didn’t Brooks say that Terry called him when he was diagnosed and offered help and support. I would done the same in calling my husband.
Because Vicki was already being taken care of… she did the practical stuff – and volunteering to be the bearer of bad news is NOT an easy job. I’ve had to make those phone calls. I absolutely get why she needed to get in touch with Terry. According to Vicki’s blog – Heather went back in and comforted Vicki, so much so that Vicki remembered what she said to her while they waited for Brooks. Tamara may have called Eddie when she had the opportunity that night as well… it just wasn’t filmed or it was edited out. I think it shows how sensitive she can be (and Vicki said as much)
Heather called Terry because she was in a very unsettling emotional situation and she wanted her man. I thought it was the very first thing Heather had ever done that made her seem like she loves Terry. It was the first time I ever saw her actually being “real.”
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I totally agree with you TT.
I thought the same thing TT and actually Vicki wrote in her blog that she was moved by Heather calling Terry. In fact, In Vicki’s blog she seems to credit Heather the most for making her feel loved and supported when she received the horrible news of her mother ‘s passing.
I saw the episode twice last night and did the ugly cry both times and today it’s still with me. It hits close to home as my moms passing and how I found out is almost identical to Vicki’s. 5 years later and I still feel lost at times without my mom.
As for Meghan, wow, I didn’t think I could hate someone so fast as I do her. I would love to see her talk to Jim the way she dies Shannon! You know that will never happen because she’d be ex-wife #3 in a heartbeat! I’m just waiting for Vicki or someone to tell her entitled ass off. Hope it’s soon because I’m ready to explode! Lol.
Exactly what I was going to say-something like that can shake you up badly even when you’re on the peripheral and I thought it was a testament to their relationship that HEATHER also needed a little bit of comfort and turned to Terry. I wouldn’t be able to turn my to my husband. My person would be my mom.
TT – I’m feeling inept with words, so I am going to just go back to what a friend of mine and I have talked about – finding beauty in the worst moments (esp. when her parents died a couple of years ago – they were my second set of parents). I found that moment of calling Terry, after she did what she could do for Vicki in calling Brooks, kind of beautiful. Maybe “finding the sweet with the bitter” would be better.
For the first time, I really saw a little bit of Heather’s true heart when she made that call to Terry (I’ve literally been pissed at Heather every since she wouldn’t give him his damn onion rings). I found myself respecting her and beyond a shadow of a doubt, knowing she has the capacity to be sincere. I found myself actually liking her after that, so maybe there is hope after all for me and Heather (like she would fucking care) but still, I would rather like someone than not. The thing is, these Bravolebrities have to show us something we can identify with to like them. I find I like vulnerability, with all the walls down…that I can relate to and respect since we all put out pants on, one leg at a time. Unless you’re like me, and lay on the bed, put both legs on at the same time, and somehow wriggle my way into them and zip them while lying down, but I’m sure Heather doesn’t need to do that. Anyway, I’m hoping in the future I will remember this moment when Heather’s walls were down, and she was being real.
I’m not making any promises, but I think from just that single action alone, I feel differently about her and hope I will continue too.
Meghan looks exactly like Tim Burton’s Corpse wife. I have been focusing on Jim’s bad behavior and I just don’t get the whole thing, He is only 45 but looks like he has had a facelift already. When he ask Meghan if she was going to the old people’s bunko, I lost it. Jim did you forget you were talking about your peers ? . I hate that guy. Meghan went to give him a hug before he went to Happy hour ( That sounded gay to me ) and he gave her the most rigid 1 sec hug hands never touched her body. Plus I would bet that he has a drinking problem, He has the puffy drinker look . Cant go more than 3 hours without a drink or the shakes set in. Hence Happy hour but bloody Mary’s in the morning
I think you nailed it. Also I’ve noticed that people who marry much younger try harder to seem younger. It makes some in a weird denial about having anything in common with people their own age or gasp any older. But Jim does seem off and miserable and just yuck. Hope it does work out for Vickie and Brooks, he was real touching with her in her grief. I say hope though, because I rarely see grown men change from what he seemed to be. But I’m all for redemption if possible.
With or without the Hallowe’en makeup?
Tamara, thank you for the warning about the scene with Vicki. I prefer land lines for serious conversations as cell phone connections can be sporadic. I have always thought when my parents die I will die too. To everyone who had lost a parent, my heart breaks for you. I am so sincerely sorry.
After seeing the upcoming scene with Meghan bonding on the beach with her stepdaughter discussing how Vickie’s pain made HER feel, I have figured out that she totally thinks she is Julia Roberts in Step Mom. Beautiful new younger wife taking on sooooo much, inheriting kids, becoming friends with the dying ex. That is her storyline. That is why I loathe her, it’s disgusting.
Exactly!
I am sure Wife 1# is fighting as hard as she can. To see MEK constantly speak of her passing that hasn’t happened has to be gut wrenching for her. Esp talking to her daughter about it. “Jimmy” allowing his daughter to be put through that bs is wrong. I would kick my x husband in the esophagus.
Agreed. And death being a scary thing, really crass and cruel to be spouting off about it so blatantly when it isnt you Meghen! And when youre loved the people should have a great difficulty in accepting it. Meghen is too willing and has no problem giving the ex an expectation date. Good grief I think this is the most disturbing stuff I’ve seen on these shows to date.. ill also add that I think the main reason Tamra Judge is a wee bit nicer, is that she’s not the hot young housewife anymore and it doesnt work as well as the older woman to be so cocky and arrogent.
I’m reserving judgment – ads and previews have fooled me before. When I was a teen, not much younger than her stepdaughter, my grandmother was diagnosed with cancer, and initially only given a month to live. My mom was hysterical, and also mad that the doctor said this in front of me (a large number of the family was there – why would he assume that I should be asked to leave?). I eventually told her (when she tried to keep me out of the loop even though my grands were living with us) – and this is something she has told numerous people in similar situations about talking with their own kids – that I said to her that I deserved the truth, that I knew when something was “up” or “wrong”, and my imagination was WAY worse than the truth…. even if the truth was someone was dying (my imaginative self pictured horrific manners of death). It could very well be that “I was there when this woman found out about her mom, and all I could think about was you”. Why is letting her step daughter know that she is thinking of her and her situation a bad thing? Was talking about this with my mom (she watches) and while Megan is definitely immature in a lot of ways – my mom did say being 30 and taking on a 17 year old stepdaughter whose mother is dying AND befriending that stepmother (while married to that cold fish) is not an easy task, and we both commend her for it. Now – I could be wrong and she could be an insensitive bitch. I get why people dislike her – but I have a hard time outright hating her b/c of this, and well, Shannon drives me up the wall. I wouldn’t have her at my house for a big party either – that is when she goes delusional, paranoid, and bat shit crazy!.
Its not for Meghen to give the step daughter her mother’s prognosis. As far as the show is concerned I dont think it should have been mentioned. Sure its ok to listen and comfort the step daughter but that’s it. Its a different situation than what you described, but I think its important to be sensitive to the poor ill person and not just everyone else. They’re the ones fighting the fight. How much and what she wants to discuss with her daughter is none of Meghens business.
Wait… who said this was Meghan telling her stepdaughter about her mother’s diagnosis? I think at 17, and considering Meghan and Jim moved out to Cali in part to offer support to the daughter and her mother says that the daughter is quite aware of her mother’s diagnosis. At 17, unless she has a developmental delay, she deserves only honesty – and I would find more offense at the adults in her life (other than her mother) NOT talking to her about the situation. Hell… younger than 17 deserves that. My point was that over a year and a half of my grandmother dying… whenever they tried to keep me in the dark, the worse it was since I knew SOMETHING was up.
I just dont think its cool to put out someones private medical information like that. Everyone is different though. Some people want to focus on living rather than dying or are batteling to the end. Im not sure where the ex wife falls in this. I sure wouldn’t want someone going around like the town crier saying I’m dying and not getting any better. Most people I’ve know who have dealt with cancer wouldn’t like it either. So I dont like Meghen doing this.
While I still think it is ok for Meghan to discuss her stepdaughter’s mother’s diagnosis with her – my apologies to all of you for defending her. She’s a cunt. And that stepdaughter needs a kick in the ass. (Just watched the episode tonight)
I still don’t care for Shannon (and that David. BARF!)
I lost my mother months ago. I remember sitting in my living room saying “I need my mom” just like Vicki did. I still say it now and I still sob about losing her. My dad is now palliative and I cry about that every day. I lost my brother and my mom very close to each other. I remember when I lost my brother then my mom thinking ” I just hope they knew how much I loved them” I always told my brother I loved him whenever we said goodbye and I always made a point to kiss my mom and dad hello and goodbye and tell them I love them. I wish I’d never seen this episode. I will probably cry all day now. There is really nothing you can say to someone who has suffered such a loss. There is no pain like it. I apologized to my friends who had lost their mothers before I did, saying I never realized how horrible it was. My heart goes out to Vicki.
I lost my only sibling, my sweet brother, over 3 years ago. It felt like I lost my history. We knew it all together when it came to our family. Loss is often cumulative and can overtake you in an instant. So sorry for your losses and for your dad’s illness. My faith has helped me deal with my pain.
My thought about the landline was perhaps her phone was almost out of battery and she had just got a text from Briana to call. Perhaps she used someone else’s phone to call her brother, plus some time had obviously passed by then, her phone could have been charged up.
I also would have wanted to speak to my husband as soon as I had a free second to call him too in that situation. I can’t fault Heather on that at all.
I still feel like the producers should have at least taken a step back, it looked like they had cameras in her face the whole time. They could have filmed from across the room, without losing the story. It was intrusive and I felt like Vicky shouldn’t have been put in that situation by them.
Small detail…but why was Vicki meeting with the nutritionist in her bathrobe? Very odd.
Maybe they were getting coffee enemas.
Please make them stop talking about coffee enemas. That’s been a topic on at least two or three episodes now. Yuck. We better not have to see one next.
Not to take anything from Vicki’s shock and grief but if I’m 83, not sick and die in my sleep, i’ll be OK with it.
At some point, I hope /Vicki can take comfort in the fact that her mother lived a long life and went quickly without a long illness.
Agreed. My in-laws are that age and have made a sudden and sharp decline mentally. It’s horrible to watch and hard for them when they are cognizant of their decline. My husband and I keep talking about how we’d like to end things on our own terms if we reach that point. I think it’s a blessing to go peacefully without a drawn-out illness. A shock to family, but a gift to the deceased.
It comforts me to hear you say that sequoia-I’m 32 and terrified of dying. I’ve always been and considered myself a Christian/I have my faults but feel like I try every day and have a good heart and soul and believe I will go to heaven when I die. But when I had my children, my husband and my family, peers started passing away as well as their parents. You start to get a lot of “what ifs???” I have wondered if I will ever get to a place of being ready to go, regardless of eternity. I agree/she had a good life and didn’t suffer. We should all be so lucky.
Absolutely harrowing to watch Vicki get that news. I got the news my father passed suddenly while I was at work one Monday morning 5 yrs ago, only he was 50, not 80 something and it was the most devastating moment of my life. My heart broke for Vicki, especially when she kept pleading for someone to wake her mom up. That’s exactly how it is. You revert back to being a child and you just want your parent back. Crushing. All my sympathies and prayers for Vicki and her family, she hasn’t always been my favorite but you can’t help but feel for someone in that much pain. I definitely had the waterworks going 🙁
On another note, Meghan is defining petty once again. It was above and beyond gracious for Shannon to call and invite her to her game night, beating the dead horse and being obnoxious about their issues just shows how insanely immature Meghan is. Let it fucking go already. She takes any opportunity to poke Shannon, “i look forward to you proving that”? Seriously? Glad Shannon called back and let this imbecile know that she is a grown ass woman who doesn’t have to “prove” herself to this mean spirited, social climbing nitwit.
Meghan’s talking heads are excruciating, I don’t think I can stomach watching someone struggle so pathetically to communicate and be “witty”. It’s unnerving.
I have been trying to watch Meghan’s THs and interacting with the ladies but, I end up fast forwarding, she is horrible, just horrible! Epic fail Bravo, epic fail!
You hit the nail on the head with “mean spirited, social climbing nitwit.” Lmao, she really is a nitwit.
Can we talk about the small crowd at Meghan’s coming out party, uh, I mean her party for juvenile diabetes? I just thought more people in the OC would have wanted to meet Jim, deadfish, Edwards, retired sports star.
hahah indeed. Her elven ears bother me too, but that’s just me being a bitch lol
Can I just say that Vicky has a great ass? I know it’s 10 years younger than mine, but I am still jealous.
There is never a good time to get the news of a parents death, never. I go the call while I was at work in the middle of a haircut. My sister never calls my cell when i am working unless it is an emergency. I stepped away and answered, she started to ramble on and then just spit it out. I dropped my phone and stumbled to the office where I broke down. It was hard and loud, very similar to Vickie. A coworker had to step in and finish my client, I stayed in the office for a good half hour crying. My phone was brought to me and I called my sister back, then i called my dad and step mom. The receptionist wanted to drive me home, I made it home fine and had to try and get my kids from school. It was a blur, it is one of the worst things to experience. I cried with Vickie, my husband was upset that it was filmed and shown. I explained that Vickie approved it and he was still upset. I am glad Heather called Brooks, Vickie really needed him there with her. The Pain we saw was so raw and I hate to say pure but it was everything real. My heart hurts for her and it Made me cry and miss my mom as well.
On another note, Meghan acted like an ass to Shannon, she is like 14 for fucks sake
While we often complain about the manufactured drama on these shows, I feel this episode was too raw and to real. Out of respect to sensitive subject matter I wished that production would Hv stopped filming and given her privacy to deal with the shock. I can’t imagine that she or her children want to ever watch/relive that moment.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Brianna contacted production and reported what was happening in an effort to get Vicki somewhere safe and private to deliver the news.
Since Tamara has explained they test shoot tryout housewives, Meghan must have been hired strictly as a villan. Someone most of the audience would talk about, and not in a love/hate like Nene way, but hate/hate. I recognized her in that pic immediately. It is more fitting than her normal makeup.
I saw the You Tube interview with Andy and Vicki prior to seeing the episode. Glad that I did, it helped me knowing she was ok with it being shown. To those thinking the camera operator should have not filmed, I expect getting big moments in their lives are what they hope for. Anything controversial can be edited out. If I were producing, and someone decided to turn the camera off because a scene was sad and emotional, they would be fired, That is what they are there for, not to be the editor.
Beginning years prior to the deaths of my parents, I would worry about how I would cope with their deaths, and resist making a spectacle of myself at hospital and funerals, however the news came, there would be the dreaded, sad funeral. We are not a family that shows a lot of emotion, except for me. My parents were New Englanders of the stiff upper lip type. Fortunately, for my own sanity, I seemed to get some sort of adrenalin push. I was able to manage myself like I was a pro about everything when it counted. I made arrangements and did things that I even marvel at now. It must have been God and parent still taking care of me. I am still emotional about them and miss them every day, and it has been 23 and 14 years they have been gone from serious health issues at 80 and 85 years old. Possibly, knowing their deaths were near helped, but both were good mentally and my rocks. My Mom, who went last was even my housemate. Vicki is a strong woman, she will be okay. It is great when we have wonderful supportive mom’s. I feel for those that do not.
I hope Meghan Edmonds never has children.
The fact that Meghan is a twat does not make Shannon sane. Shannon is a mess. And is not an angel. Or particularly bright.
I’m increadiblynsick of Heather whining about Terry out-attention-whoring her. SOMEBODY has to pay for your $400,000 cabinets. I’m betting they are mirrored.
Who the fuck breaks death news to an unstable person like Vicki OVER THE PHONE. WHILE SHE IS FILMING. That’s fucked up and stupid. You just don’t. You call production. Or Tamra. Or better yet,,swallow your petty pride and call BROOKS and have him personally tell her the news. There is no rush. The woman is not going to get any deader. And…sorry, but grow the fuck up. As an adult, you understand and accept that you will lose your parents. It’s very natural. If you turn into a two year old kicking and screaming that ou want your mommy, you were not raised very well.
Ok two things-yes Shannon is crazy, and it makes me wonder what David’s deal is that she got him. He is a hunk.
Since you said it and I was too chicken, I will agree that I found the phone call with her brother billy unnerving…
A hunk? Where is a vomit emoticon when you need it. He creeps me out beyond belief – even more than Brooks, and he had 20/20 on his ass. But – I guess that is what makes the world go round…. at least David and Shannon have one thing in common – you can see the complete white of their eyes when they go in crazy mode!!!!
(Seriously – I’d be more of a girl that would go for a Terry type. He works a lot, but I think it is clear that all the twinkles in his and Heather’s eyes are for each other, and that they love their kids.)
I feel for Vicki and her brother. Based on 10 years of watching Vicki, her reaction was normal for HER. She’s a screamer. I believe she was raised well – that is just her. She’s a woo hoo er in the fun times, a yeller when she’s mad – why not a screamer in grief?
I was raised well too – but we never discussed how one is supposed to react when you find out a loved one died. I will say I’m more of a Heather type – I think the little break in her voice when she called Terry is what just made it VERY real to me…. because that is how I am for sure. That actually triggered a few sad memories.
I think David Beador is one of the best looking husbands. I’d put him up there with Mauricio and Apollo. Shannon is a cuckoo, nagging shrew and I hate that we are privy every. freaking. week. to their marital discord.
Shannon is a ticking time bomb. That’s the only statement Meghan has made that is logical. While I like Shannon more for not flying into madness at every false (or painfully true) statement that is made about her, you can see that she’s having a hard time controlling herself.
The only one who can defuse her is Dr. Moon.
And his healing hands.
Of lust.
My heart broke for Vicki last night when she got that devastating news
I was bawling my eyes out and my heart breaks for Vicki. I don’t have my parents anymore and lost my Dad suddenly too. That pain tears you up. I’m glad they called Brooks so he could be there to support her (he’s become so thin). On a lighter note, it was nice to see Shannon having fun and being the bigger person with the girl child. Shannon’s house is right out of house beautiful. …I love it. Jenna has had a lot of facial work done. ..hardly recognized her.
Yes! Forgot about jeanna! But I thought she looked really good, though. Good work. Much younger, better version of herself.
I so agree with you about how sad and unnerving seeing Vicki’s phone call was. I knew it was coming, but the raw emotion shook me more than I had even braced myself for. In middle-age, the thought of the possibility of that loss becomes more real. I’m sure a lot of people can relate to Vicki’s sense of how much she still needs her mother as a mother.
I appreciate you forewarning people– I saw the warning after seeing the episode, but it’s a good idea to warn how emotionally unsettling it might be. I’m not sure if I think the full call should have aired, but I’m shedding raw tears with Vicki.
Has anybody noticed that Vicki has carried FOUR different Valentino rockstud bags this season? (I covet those bags!) Shannon also had one. And both Heather and Tamra have worn Valentino rockstud shoes. I wonder if they’re getting freebies?
I am wondering if I have missed a show.
Did Meghan really accuse Brooks of pretending he has cancer? When did this happen?
I remember a clip in a promo where Heather says “Who would fake cancer”?! But I must have missed that.
I also missed the previews for next week where Meghan has a discussion with her step-daughter regarding her mother’s cancer.
Everyone here really hates Meghan. This is what I will say. I almost always give people the benefit of the doubt. They usually have to show me their asshattedness for me to hate them.
I have not yet seen an asshat move from Meghan, except when she would not accept Shannon’s olive branch, and held that whole thing over her head. “You have to PROVE to me that you are sorry” or whatever bullshit line that was. If she would have said that to me, her invitation would have been rescinded.
However, Shannon was an asshat in Napa. I would have been completely taken aback by her explosive “I start charities” shit.
So I am on the fence. Who is the bigger asshat? We shall see, I guess.
But this much I will say… Meghan’s husband does not even like her! He is the biggest dick on Bravo, no question. So for her to have “fallen in love” with this guy really makes me question what kind of person she is. She must be truly awful.
In my (not) so humble opinion, Meghen is the biggest asshat. The way I saw it (and I’m going back) was Shannon got this call from a number she didn’t recognize on her private cell phone while she was driving. She didn’t recognize the name because Meghen didn’t identify herself clearly. To each their own, but my cell phone number is private too, and I don’t want anyone giving it out. Period. That’s why it’s called PRIVATE. Anyway, Shannon was basically confused and admitted she was annoyed because she thought it was a salesman, and I found that understandable. By now, Meghen is pissed and in a confrontational mood. I think Shannon was trying hard to explain to Meghen the whole misunderstanding of the phone call, but Meghen was being a bitch and wasn’t having any of it. Shannon was saying if she had known it was Meghen… and she got cut off with ‘you would have been nicer?’ Blah, blah, blah. Then when Shannon apologized it wasn’t good enough and not accepted. So, Shannon was shunned from her big charity event, which was really just a way for Meghen to show herself (and her husband) off. Ugh. She is so transparent. Then when Shannon called Meghen to invite her to the bunko? party, again Meghen was a bitch and wanted Shannon to ‘prove’ her word was good. At first Shannon said she would (I almost hit the roof with that one) but thankfully she reconsidered and called her back and basically said she didn’t have to prove anything to her and she could come or not. Then Meghen came and they kissed and made up and all’s well in their world! (At least for the moment.)
Sorry for such a long post, Pip, just to say that Meghen is definitely the biggest asshat!
Thank you, G-Snap! I appreciate your response.
I really have a hard time referencing back weeks… And I can barely watch a whole show anymore without interruptions, so I do miss a lot. I don’t really have time to watch shows twice.
I hear what you are saying… Meghan seems to be playing a little power trip on Shannon. Like “I’ve got this on you” kind of thing.
But I still think Shannon is way to nuts to be on television right now. And I can’t handle the scenes with her and David and the kids. It feels exploitive. I wouldn’t do that to my kids. No way. What the fuck is she thinking?
Shannon thinks by telling her story, it might help someone. I agree with you though, I wouldn’t go the route she’s going, but WHATEVAH! I like Shannon, even though she is neurotic as hell. She is anal and naggy too, and I can’t handle a nag. I actually feel more sorry for David, than Shannon in a way. Nagging someone to death is not the way to go, been there, done that 🙁
PS I LOVE G-Snap! Thanks to Maisey for my cool hip hop handle!
My cell phone is private too – I don’t give it out to clients, except for a very very very few who are also friends and know that I keep it on in the evenings and weekends and functions as my personal phone. The thing is – when I do get a call, I don’t get mad at the person who called, I get mad at the person who gave out my phone number! If I do get a call and give the distant tone I give to random solicitors, only to find out it is someone I know (or a friend of a friend) I don’t wait to apologize I DO IT IMMEDIATELY!!! Shannon stayed huffy – how the FUCK was Meghan supposed to know the number was that private? (Besides, you are HW, don’t tell me that they don’t give everyone a phone list, or that you don’t remember the new housewife’s name was Meghan). If you are in the car on speaker – you just say “hey, can I call you back? I am driving in the car with my kids and you are on speaker phone.”
Yes, yes and yes, G-snap! Meghan is the asshat. I think any reasonable person can see that.
Sorry if someone else mentioned this…as I write, there are almost 200 comments: Aside from the sadness surrounding Vicki’s mother’s passing, a shocker for me was seeing Jeana Keogh and all the plastic surgery she had done on her face. Good Lord! I hardly recognized her, she was pulled up as tight as a geisha girl! Please tell me others noticed this too.
All the juicing and coffee enemas sound like the Gerson treatment. He has a clinic in Mexico. Dr. Gerson is an M.D. His treatment is supposed to boost the immune system to kill cancer. Maybe Brooks and Vicki made a trip to his clinic. I hope Brooks gets better with what ever treatment regime he chooses.
Yeah, apparently my link didn’t work. http://gerson.org/gerpress/faqs-detox/
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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What ever works. Gerson has had success stories. Life is a crapshoot
@ 5 cats-
Me, too! (Aside from the cheesy poems and thoughts for the day crap).
He’s done some shady shit (telling Ryan to hit Brianna (or whatever her name is)… THAT was fucked up. He MUST have been joking, right?
But he has redeemed himself in my eyes (although, it’s hard to forget that one).
I don’t think Vicki would have stayed with him.
You seem to have such a clear memory, and yet you don’t know the context of Brooks comments?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Even though I saw the show about “hitting Brianna”, and know that’s not really what or how he said it I’d have to agree with him. I would have slapped Ryan and her both until their ears rang like it was Sunday morning!
Forgive me for jumping in, but at that time, I listened carefully to the tape that Ryan was recording (without Brooks knowing) and Brooks was drunk, and he and Vicki were on the outs…and yeah, I would definitely say he was more or less kidding. I don’t think he really meant it the way it was projected. NOW, during the reunion when it was brought up, I could have hit Brooks for not defending himself more vehemently. I think the poor dude was just overwhelmed with it all. JMO.
I have a horseshit memory. I’m bad on details.
Yeah I heard about that in estitician school. That and making the body alkaline more than acidic.
Sorry, but I’m one of those who will believe Brooks when he is sitting at his oncologist’s office getting results. Unfortunately, I’ve lost immediate family members to cancer and several other relatives and friends, and have a best friend who went through it and pray she remains a survivor. That experience with all those just doesn’t line up with looking at him. Again, I stress saying looking at him. If he sits in front of an oncologist who is treating him and allows that to be filmed, I’ll believe it. I don’t see any reason with all the shady behavior, and with all those people who are close to the situation like Brianna & all the RHOC who say he’s a liar, to give him any more benefit of the doubt than that. And unconventional treatments I think are great if you are stage 4 with no hope, by all means, try everything. But it makes me think of Robin Quivers from Howard Stern. She went on a health kick years ago- green drinks, vegetarianism, and coffee enemas. When she was later diagnosed with very advanced cancer, she was lucky enough to get to the finest specialists after having been told she would likely lose her battle. They told her forget the coffee enemas, but who knows. Thankfully she’s doing well considering what she had. Steve Jobs initially I believe tried alternative means and, upon worsening, finally resorted to traditional treatment but it had already spread beyond surviving. The marriage of alternative and traditional does seem best. I hope Brooks is ok, and if he is sick, I hope he recovers well. I think it makes sense to look to alternative remedies if the conventional ones are not working. After unfortunately seeing it up close and personal for so many, there are few deaths worse. All those fighting the good fight, God bless.
Wow, Missy, you are a shit person.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@missy that is why they are trying the alternative methods. The chemo was not aggressive as they had hoped.
Briana doesn’t believe him bc she doesn’t like him. She refuses to talk or be around him,how she came up with him faking, I don’t know. Yes, we know MEK! She better be happy she doesn’t have my Mom bc as soon as I pulled this BS or spoke to her that way,she would cut me off financially.
I think alternative is best used along with regular medicine. My chiropractor has colon cancer and he is so anti conventional medicine he won’t have surgery and does only alternative. Ive read that colon cancer has a real good success rate with surgery alone and skipping chemo. But not skipping the surgery to remove the tumor.
Sorryz but I’m tempted to change my name so people don’t think I’m you, @Missy rocks5. Did you see what another person wrote below: “…in life it’s better to find that you have been a fool for being too compassionate than be a fool for being an unsympathetic asshole.”
I’m sorry you’ve had close family and your friend suffer through it. I think with how widespread it is, almost every person here has either had cancer or had a friend or family member battle cancer. Usually, this will teach you that cancer and treatments affect everyone differently. And, you would know better than to question someone while they’re fighting for their life. Please stop!
These comments about Brooks are ridiculous. I lost my sister last November to primary peritoneal cancer. It is very rare and normally not diagnosed until the disease is quite progressed (stage 3 or 4). I was with her several days each week, taking her to chemo and meeting with doctors and other patients at the treatment center. Some of the other patients seemed very sick and others looked like they stopped there on the way home from Barney’s. Although my sister was diagnosed in August of 2013, she traveled, drove her M5 BMV manual transmission sports car, socialized, and played golf up until the tumors created a colon blockage in October of 2014 when she was hospitalized.
Cancer affects everyone differently and so do the drugs or other methods of treatment. Anyone who makes general statements about this disease is simply an ass. Cancer and treatment are as individual as our DNA. No one can tell by looking at someone how sick they are. My beloved sister had naturally rosy cheeks and was hitting those golf balls long and hard right up until a month before she passed away.
On the other hand, my cousin had stage 3 ovarian cancer and she began a very aggressive chemo regimen that lasted 8 months. I took her a couple of times a month to her treatment since she couldn’t drive, was very weak, couldn’t eat, was terribly depressed and fatigued, and she looked pasty and thin. She just had her tumor marker done two weeks ago and we went out to celebrate her 5 years of being cancer-free.
No one on Earth knows God’s plans so all you naysayers about Brooks should STFU lest you appear completely ignorant.
Well…heathers husband is a doctor and doesn’t believe Brooks has cancer. Heather is the one who says it “who would make up cancer?!”
We don’t know that for sure yet.
From what I saw in the promo, we could not see who she was talking to.
And I also thought she was maybe saying “Meghan is fucking nuts! Who would make up cancer”?!
Not confirming that he actually was making it up, but how could someone possibly accuse him of such a thing.
Did that make sense? I’m tired.
vivaladiva831, I highly doubt Terry Dubrow would ever think or say he doesn’t believe Brooks has cancer. That would be an ignorant statement and I’m pretty sure he didn’t become as successful as he’s become by being stupid. I think I’ll wait to see how this rumor gets started on the show. It seems the only person so far who suggested Brooks doesn’t have cancer is that dimwit Meghan and she’s not someone whose opinions on anything seem based on facts. Let’s watch what happens…
Eddie has said it to Tamra as well. They are just horrible people.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Huh? I don’t think Terry said that. And, even if he had, just because he’s a plastic surgeon doesn’t mean he knows anything about Brooks. He’s not an oncologist. Since when can doctors just look at someone and diagnose whether they have cancer? I guess we don’t need scans, blood tests, mammograms, biopsies…if doctors can just diagnose based on looking at you now. Wow.
SANTA FE—
Let me first say I am sorry about the loss of your sister. And happy about the five year mark of your cousin.
Boy…..you have been through A LOT. I bet you never knew you could handle so much. Bet you never wanted to either.
Cancer is a cruel disease and takes so many different forms. What you wrote tonight is about the sanest, most informative and grown up perspective on working with/living with this disease. “Anyone makiing general statements about this disease is simply an ass”. Well said.
Thanks, Maisey. Unfortunately it seems cancer, in one form or another, has touched each of us in some way. All we can do is try to find it early enough so treatment has a greater likelihood of helping cure it and, if we or someone we know has been diagnosed I am sure any person would be ever grateful for others’ encouragement, support and compassion.
Santa Fe – My condolences on the loss of your sister. Cancer is incredibly cruel. What wonderful news for your cousin. Hitting the 5-year mark with OVCA is a huge milestone!
I was a little surprised at some of the blanket statements being made. Loved your comments….
Thanks, cawoman23. I lost both parents and my maternal grandmother between June 1990 and April 1991, my brother in 2011 (we hadn’t spoken since our parents passed but his death dashed my hope we would reconcile at some point), and now my sister. I try to never take anyone for granted. You just never know what may happen tomorrow. I decided after I lost my parents that I wouldn’t live life sad and afraid, I would live it confidently and without regret. If I have something to say, I say it. If I’m wrong or mistaken, I admit it. And I try to convey to those dear to me how much they are cherished.
And I apologize if I feel I sound preachy…like now! So sorry guys.
Tamara, I remember Eddie with the cough/eyeroll reaction to Brooks’ cancer when Tamra was on the phone with Vicki in an early episode. You are right to say they are horrible people. IDGI Are we supposed to think this is a storyline? If it is, and cancer is not Brooks’ problem, he and Vicki have far greater problems with their characters. I guess we’ll see how it shakes out. Thanks again for hosting this valuable forum.
I dislike Brooks as much as one could dislike a TV personality they don’t truly know. He has come across as disingenuous to me and many others. That being said, in life it’s better to find that you have been a fool for being too compassionate than be a fool for being an unsympathetic asshole.
They don’t have to know him, like him, or trust him to rally around the woman they do know, like, and trust. I give her daughter a pass because it’s her kid. The other cast members are just cruel. And Meghan found her storyline in this, which is almost as bad as her storyline as the concerned, grieving stepmother.
“…in life it’s better to find that you have been a fool for being too compassionate than be a fool for being an unsympathetic asshole.”
Thank you for saying this more eloquently than I had in previous post comments. These people think they’re so smart deciphering and analyzing who does or doesn’t have cancer. My God – idiots! They can go live on an island somewhere with the people who questioned Vicki’s reaction to her mom’s death last week.
Sorry about your sister, @SanteFeWay. This is a good example of how the disease and treatment affects everyone differently. These comments about Brooks are ridiculous.
my mother and i aren’t close but after watching this with vickie i just called my mom and told her i love her and i am gonna make a effort to be close to her, soooo sad, i cried liike a baby for vicks
I appreciate your kindness towards Shannon-it seems most viewers have very little empathy for her situation. I know she’s quirky and not everyone’s cup of tea however she seems traumatized by the affair and the loss of trust in her marriage. I wish people would cut her some slack. I don’t enjoy watching their interactions-it’s painful to watch and I”m not sure it was the right decision to air the whole situation but I wish people would give her some time to get over it.
Me too, Shannon is at least a real and mostly kind person!
I finally caught this episode. So sorry that Vicki lost her mom, it was a very heartbreaking scene. And I am really sad that Shannon & David’s very personal issue has to play out nationally. I hope their family can survive this mess.