Bethenny
The ladies are going to a cupcake party decorating party at a cupcake store. This is Bethenny’s idea. the Skinnygirl versus Ramona’s Pinot starts right away. This is apparently a promotion for the cupcake store, and the women’s booze and yet another opportunity to discuss their vaginas and what they do with them publicly on national television. Then Sonja says she is about to pay off her $7 million dollar judgment and another couple million in attorneys fees. Um, didn’t she just declare bankruptcy over the judgements? That is not really “paying them off.” So she invites everyone to Turks and Caicos.
Sidenote: Every woman who lives in NYC and is on TV has been pushing the HELL out of Turks and Caicos lately. Kelly Ripa can’t mention it enough on her show, this show, it seems like it is the new Phillipines of travel destination promotion desperation. WTF is going on there for this major push to be necessary? Red Tide? Oil Spill? High murder rate? It’s all a bit much.
Kristen
Luann meets up with Kristen for a shoe store promotion. Since they are already on a reality show during this commercial, Kristen tells Luann about#PopOfColorGate. Luann sticks up for Bethenny. Kristen’s storyline is “why doesn’t Bethenny love me?”
Carole
The next commercial is for Balzeen. A restaurant/bar. During this promotional activity Carole tells Bethenny she had as sex dream about her. Carole says she had the dream about Bethenny because she needs to loosen up. Carole tells Bethenny she did rat her out to Kristen. In her talking head, Bethenny tries to backpedal about what she said about Kristen. Bethenny is fine with Carole blabbing to Kristen about what she said. I see a sixty-nine session in the future for these two. I wish I didn’t, because MY EYES. Two anorexic New York bitches just don’t do it for me. 
Luann
The next commercial is for a photographer’s studio. Kristen joins Luann for some sort of shoot. Real or by Bravo is unclear. The topic is that everyone has adjusted their schedules and their kids schedules for the trip and now Bethenny is saying the dates don’t work for her. Heather, Ramona and Bethenny show up. Bethenny has her crying fit when asked about the trip dates. She will miss a recital. She will be away from her kid for 21 days out of 30. Cue the meltdown. Well, Bethenny, if you are so concerned about your child instead of getting paid to advertise your product…. no one is forcing you to do this ridiculous show for obscene amounts of money. Life is about decisions, and you can’t sign a six figure contract to work and then say you are not going to work because you are a mother and still expect to be paid. Bethenny is going for the first three days of the trip.
Bethenny dries her eyes in time to say that Luann’s photo shoot made her look like she was doing a stay free Maxi-pad commercial. Nice.
Sonja
Sonja has to have twelve interns and a stylist to pack for a four day trip to the beach.
Bethenny
Now it’s time for another commercial. Some restaurant called Parkside. Bethenny, Luann and Ramoja are the four leads for this one. The night before everyone went out and Sonja got drunk and hell and made out with two different guys. Then she blacked out all over the dry cleaner. Park Side is in Queens. It’s Italian. Everyone is concerned about Sonja’s drinking. I got distracted by all the Italian food. The girls are going to observe Sonja on vacation and assess the situation. The ladies, except for Luann head to the restroom to perfect quietly vomiting up dinner.
Ramona
Bethenny and Ramona go for pedicures in NYC in winter. Ramona wore boots. How does that work? Down here we wear thong sandals to the salon year round. No one puts their toes in a shoe for several hours. Bethenny talks about how she doesn’t have an issue with Kristen. But clearly Bethenny has an issue with Kristen. Bethenny took 30 minutes to explain the phrase “bros before hoes” to Ramona. But Kristen is the dumb one?
Luann
Oh the modeling thing was to launch Luann’s fashion collection. Dear god. Now we are having a party for the launch. Luann’s kids showed up. Reluctantly. Carson Kressley drops in. Luann makes all the guest carry mannequins down to the party. Because, Luann. All of the limbs didn’t make it.
Dorinda, Heather and Kristen talk about how much of a mental mess Bethenny is. Kristen has on a lovely gray sweater dress and everyone makes a snide comment about it. So nasty, so rude. Ramona is mean to Kristen. Ramona says that Kristen attacked Bethenny at the modeling shoot. Ramona is drunk and obnoxious. Luann tells her not to boss her around in her suite. Ramona calls Kristen dumb. Heather stands up for Kristen. Kristen storms away.
It’s ten PM and it’s still hot as balls in my house.
Next Week: Bethenny leads the charge against Kristen.
On point TT. The pedicure thing was completely ridiculous! Among other stuff.
Someone started out with hellabad toenails at the pedicures…all yellow and gross! I couldn’t figure out whose foot it was, and didn’t want to keep rewatching the footage. ::shudder:: Oh, and I want everyone to quit picking on Kristen – I like watching her nice, glamorous self, including her fashion, and want to see her come back next season! In fact, I really think RHONY has it right with this cast – I like them all enough or find them interesting enough to earn/keep their spots for another season.
I mostly dislike Kristen, but I too want her to come back next season. Does that make sense?
I don’t really like Kristen because she doesn’t contribute to the show, but that’s not a reason to attack her. Also her photos are always scarey, she always over models facially look up the PPP of color photo.
Trying to figure out if the comment above sent me into future moderation? When I said ‘everyone’ above, I meant the cast members, not commenters here. My bad for leaving that open to interpretation.
I need to go check moderation, but your comment here proves you are not in the WLS. 🙂
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I like Kristen as well!I think she’s done a nice job with her blog, she could really grow her “Pop of Color” line into something special (make-up as well as nail polish), you don’t see her hawking PoC or her jewelry line every time you turn around on the show, and I’ve never wanted to reach through the TV screen and slap her silly.
As for not contributing to the show, nothing brings out the Ramona Crazy like Kristen. And her “And I’m going to walk away HOLDING my glass.” line was classic.
Thanks for the recap. I didn’t watch because I get enough commercials during regular programming. What is up with these shows? Does every single HW have to sell something? I’m thinking that they are all broke and really need the money. What ever happened to the fun, glamorous aspect of these shows? Drunken cougars selling shit is not my idea of entertainment. Do we really need another clothing line, wine line, restaurants that most of us will never go too and nail polish? The show is one huge infomercial with crying thrown in for good measure. Yuck. If this is what being a “real” housewife is about I’ll pass.
I agree! The product pushing is a bit much. Nail polish, wine, wine and more wine, spanx-like undergarments…
I gotta say, I freaking loved it when Ramona brought her Pinot Grigiot to the cupcake party. Bethenny looked like she wanted to break that bottle over Ramona’s head. The nerve of Bethenny when she said “Who carries a bottle of wine and glasses around in their purse?” Who? Um, the same kind of person who turns every place they go into a Skinny Girl boutique. That’s who, Bethenny. The smile on her crazy, shit stirring face, and the “fuck you” gleam in Ramona’s eye when she took the wine out of her purse was priceless!
See Minky, this is why I love RHONY. That’s the sort of drama I’m up for, not real life sad drama as in Shannon/David. Fun drama that really isn’t hurting anybody.
When did this, “Brand” business start” I think it was after Bethenny’s success? “My Brand”, “Her Brand”, ‘I’ve gotta protect My Brand”. Blah, blah blah…
They usually use the quick dry spar on your toes, then plastic bag your feet before you put your socks on. Yes, this is actually a thing. #formercoldweathergirl
Quick interjection: When El Partner and I were in Turks and Caicos last year (for a day, as part of a cruise) the locals took great pains to say that they were not happy with Bravo and the disruptions the HWs shows bring.
Xanaxdude From what I’ve seen and heard it’s pretty there….at this moment in time I’d be damn happy to be on a beach somewhere with a man servant ( may he be fine) waiting on me LOL
It was gorgeous. We are saving for a return cruise next year. Different ports but in the same general area – stopping off at a different island this time – last year was Grant Turk. I dug it. They allowed the horses and goats to roam the island freely.
Isn’t this the first time any of the HWs are going there?
RHOC went for Vickie and Don to renew their vows
Yowza! So the locals DON’T like being bossed around by loud, braying, obnoxious, nouveau riche, tourism slags? Go figure? Really good info Xanadude.
I would love to go on a cruise. With terrific food. And drinks. And sexy, hot dudes. Looking for a good time. I’m finished. Sigh.
and someone in the RHW – dont know who – did not endear themselves to the one of the local inns/pubs by not tipping. No clue as to who.
Hmmm? Which one of them seems the cheapest to you? I say it’s a tie between Ramona and Bethenny. I would be really surprised if it were Heather, Carole, Kristen or Dorinda. Maybe Sonja because she’s hard up for money?
Turks and Caicos has some of the prettiest beaches in the world. I’m planning another trip there for the fall. It’s gorgeous.
I think it depends which Island in Turks and Caicos you go to..some are nicer then others…the beaches are pretty but there are no waves-the ocean is clear and beautiful but like a lake. The airport is incredibly small-people were spilling out onto the parking lot and sitting on the ground.
Just one thing… RFLMFAO at the recap! Cheer up, it’s still 107 here in AZ. It’s a dry heat much like that of Turks and Caicos
It is a wonderful 70 here right now, but I am headed to Las Vegas friday and it is supposed to be 113. I may die!
Hey Lisa M. I’m also in AZ and it was 111 where I live. It won’t be dry for long…monsoon season has officially begun. I will avoid any spots that might include any RHW. It’s bad enough that they are on television let alone in the same hotel and on the same beach. They probably carry huge signs advertising their products.
Dorinda is really growing on me and I am not sure why she hasn’t checked Ramona yet. Ramona is back to her nasty self and loving it. Bethenny needs to stop, take a minute and rethink her choices. I understand her being upset at missing her daughter, I really do and maybe she should have not done the show which she knew would involve travel. I feel for Kristen, she has to be one of the most genuinely nice housewives ever and she keeps getting the short end of it. Carole, oh my, she is the sneaky one this season. I do love Heather, she doesn’t mind checking Ramona when she needs it and i love that about her. Sonja is a hot mess still and always will be, she will never get right if people keep enabling her.
How is Carole so skinny? Is it hard work to stay her size?
I think she is one of those natural skinny women, but I think she could also be one of those that forgets to eat. I have a friend like that.
Something is wrong with Carole this season it’s like her personality changed
I think Carole’s a bit over the show and the behavior she’s been seeing for however long she’s been on the show. Her behavior s like she’s telling them all to kiss her ass. I could be wrong.
Good one, Tamara. I am getting really tired of the ongoing commercials. Of course, I’ll keep watching. An occasional plug doesn’t bother me, but it feels excessive in this franchise especially.
The food did look really good. I’d like to have that bread basket right now.!
Let’s hope Bethenny continues to see her therapist. She looks to me like a woman on the edge.
Ramona didn’t need to go in on Kristen like that, but she was dead on about Kristen just not geling with this group. She tries way to hard to make good tv and it just never works.
What normal person would “gel” with this bunch? Kristen better be happy that Ramona and Bethenny and Luanne hate her. That means she’s doing something right.
Yes, I know she’s friends with Brandi, but she has yet to exhibit anything that even vaguely resembles Brandi-like behavior. I say it’s jealousy. And Dorinda was acting pissy with Kristen over something that really wasn’t Kristen’s fault (re: John being grabby) just so she could fit in with the others, IMO. Thankfully Dorinda had the good sense to squash it quickly.
Kristen is so strikingly pretty, that it makes women like the above named three get jock itch. Women can be so vicious to anyone they perceive as a threat or competition in the looks department. It’s like when you introduce a new kitten to a group of already established older house cats. That kitten’s probably gonna get hazed or treated like these harpies are treating Kristen.
My thoughts exactly – Ramona physically assaulted Kristen last season, and it was brushed off. Kristen has taken the high road, I think, in all of the interactions so far, which is so unBrandilike.
Couldn’t agree with you more Minky. I always think that expression Kristen makes is because she’s considering the insanity around her and is perplexed as to why everyone else acts like it’s somehow normal. That scene in the lake was pretty vile and I don’t know how Ramona talked her way out of it.
I agree that it’s jealousy. She is younger and prettier than the other women, so it comforts them to say she is dumb.
I am not a fan of Ramona, by any means, and she has been nasty, but other than the pretty face, I think Kristen is seriously lacking in personality. She is so boring, not funny, not especially interesting, and always seems pollyannish about “why don’t the ladies talkkkkk to me??”. Tiresome. The other ladies may be older, but I don’t think they should be jealous- there are lots of pretty women who don’t have much else to offer. They may be jealous, but I don’t see the reason.
@Shae. I think Kristen keeps asking that because there’s no logical explanation for their behavior. Also, women can be so awful about shunning other women. Just because Kristin is dull doesn’t mean she deserves abuse.
I was rooting for Kristen last year, because Ramona just went psycho on her. This episode, she kept going on and on about how Bethenny hasn’t meshed with their tight group. They’re probably not all as close as Kristen thinks. Bethenny easily slipped back into her friendship with Luann, Ramona and Sonja. It’s the newer cast members, with the exception of Carole (who doesn’t care), who don’t fit in the new group dynamic. Kristen and Heather are trying too hard to instantly form a bond with Bethenny that, in reality (not reality tv), needs to develop naturally.
Ramona, I don’t care about what you are going through anymore, because you are acting like a cunt satchel again. The condescending rude attacking immediately followed by a scream of “I don’t want to go there. Let’s move on! Happy thoughts!” cements you as Queen Cunt Satchel of NYC. and I stand by my “resting bitch voice” comment from a few weeks ago.
Dorinda seems to finally be seeing Ramona through other’s eyes, thank karma.
I really can’t wait for the inevitable Sonja confrontation with LuAnn, with Sonja saying she had the IDEA for a collection first and LuAnn countering with “Yes, but I actually HAVE a collection.” You know its coming, because…Sonja…
Kristen – I like her. I like that she’s asserting herself a bit more. I’d like to see this continue. I think she’s a nice counterbalance to the intensity of the others. Kind of a half way point between the intensity of Ramona and Bethheny and the stoner-ness of Carole.
I affirm my affection for Heather, by the way.
Off topic, but I dug the truly outrageous makeup homage to Jem and the Holograms in tonight’s Dance Moms.
Is it wrong for me to hope that Sonja slaps all the botox, restylene and collagen, right outta Luanne’s face in a drunken rage? If Luanne does try to act high and mighty with Sonja, then I’ll really hate her. It’s not okay to kick someone when they’re down, or attack somebody when they’re back is turned, even if they are delusional. Sonja’s a very easy target, she’s got a lot of problems, but for some reason I really want her to do better. Is Sonja a covert bitch? Am I missing something?
I have been kind of hating on Bethenny this season… But she is clearly not well. I agree with all of you. She should not have signed on to do this show until her divorce was final and her mental health was in check. I get that she wouldn’t want to miss Bryn’s recital. I wouldn’t either. But didn’t she think about this before agreeing to do the show?
I like Kristen. She is odd man out, because she is too nice for these girls. She isn’t savvy enough to handle their insults. I find it completely baffling that she is friends with Brandi.
Sonja’s drinking may be a story line. They tried to do that with Ramona a few years ago. I remember Jill Zarin snickering because Ramona was having Pinot at 11 am at some fashion or luncheon thing. I thought that was Kind of stupid because, although Ramona likes to get her party on, she is clearly not an alcoholic.
Sonja on the other hand, clearly DOES have a drinking problem. Didn’t she get a DWI in the Hamptons after filming her first season? I think Sonja is immature and delusional. I hope someone helps her. She is a mess.
And off topic… Why the fuck were they ripping on Kristen’s dress? I have a cream colored cashmere two piece dress exactly like Kristen was wearing and it’s gorgeous. I get a LOT of compliments on it. So suck on that, bitches.
“But didn’t she think about this before agreeing to do the show?” Yes. Yes, I believe she probably did think about it, but I also believe that she thought she would get preferential treatment because she thinks she’s special and exempt from the rules the others have to follow.
As I wrote already, they’re ripping on Kristen because she’s gorgeous and because they’re jealous bitches. No amount of plastic surgery or trips to the beauty parlor will ever make any one of them look even a little bit like Kristen. Instead of embracing their own uniqueness, they’re relying on cookie cutter thinking about beauty and sexiness. So stupid.
Oh c’mon, I would much rather look like bethenny than kristen, personally. There is something about her face that rubs me the complete wrong way. It’s aesthetically attractive, no doubt, and she has a model’s body, but I don’t enjoy looking at her, or her expressions while she speaks. It is possible to dislike someone for reasons other than being jealous.
I understood bethenny’s issue not to be with going away period, but the fact the time away coincided with time she was already taking away from her kid, a week for turks and then 12 days for some other engagement. I imagine when she signed on she thought she could avoid conflicts like that, and would be able to take trips. Be reasonable, she’s done this before, just some things with kids and schedules are hard to predict. I cut her slack- you can’t put your life on hold for 3-4 years while your ex drags you through divorce court.
The Turks and Caicos trip was FOUR DAYS TOTAL.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Why is Bethenny trying so hard to prove that she’s mother of the year? Is it because of the custody battle? She must travel a lot for business anyway. What makes this 4 day trip so extraordinarily awful?
Maybe they just think Kristen is an idiot. Like the rest of the world.
Because they wish they looked as good as she does!
If they were in the Turks and Caicos for only four days, and the episode is four episodes long, some massive things must have gone down.
Kristen is the alex of before. Bethenny is spot on- I commented last week that B could read Kristen and that’s why she didn’t bother. Bethenny doesn’t hate Kristen. Kristen needs to stop being so sensitive. Honestly Kristen has probably had a problem with B ever since she “wasn’t invited” with Hearher and Carole. Ramona was a bit harsh but she was right. Kristen gets sad that no one wants to play w her so she hits below the belt. Kristen acts like a 13yo and that’s how Alex was so the Seasoned vets aren’t having it.
Heather was the one who made a big deal about Kristen not being invited to Bethenny’s do. Not Kristen. They’re just throwing this poor Kristen around like a rag doll. She’s everybody’s excuse for being terrible. Maybe Luann should read her own, probably ghost written, etiquette book? Remember when Bethenny used to call her the Discountess? I wonder why Bethenny did that? Hmmm?
Yea heather probably said something bc Kristen was whining and complaining about it. That’s why she have Bethenny the heads up. Poor Kristen!uh no– not poor Kristen she’s so transparent it’s boring. That’s why no one likes her (but heather).
Ramona was completely rude and out of line to go into that suite and start shit. She should have handled it with Kristen privately.
Heather is right. Ramona is a shit stirrer and totally fucking NUTS. She has terrible manners and a loud mouth. I can’t even believe she is still on this show.
And Beaumondelife- just curious (and I am sincerely not trying to upset you), but when did Kristen hit below the belt? It’s possible I missed something, but I only remember her as being polite and sincere.
Ramona started off fine. She respectfully said Kristen should’ve waited to talk to Bethenny when they all were able to sit down together bc they knew it was a sensitive subject. Kristen maliciously brought it up right when B got there on purpose (that’s where I would say she hit below the belt) *ok Bethenny, you chose to ignore me before but you won’t ignore me now*! You can always see it on her face. Sure it comes out sweet and genuine but it wasn’t. Ramona could tell and I think Ramona actually felt sorry for B that’s why she was so aggressive with Kristen about it.
Yes, Pip! Ramona’s getting on my nerves too. First a pity party over her divorce and now she’s back to stirring up the shit with her Kitchen-Aid mixer. Kristen is among the classiest and most well behaved on the show. She and Dorinda are my favorites, tied for first place. Heather and Carole are tied for second place because I like them, but I don’t like some of the things they do. The triumvirate of Bethenny, Ramona and Luanne piss me the fuck off. They’re all three so full of shit it’s coming out of their pie holes.
Re: Sonja. Like I’ve said, I’m still hoping for the best. Is she a real drunk? I don’t know. She looks great for someone who’s a raging alcoholic. Really good skin and bright eyes. No bloating or gin blossoms. I know she gets a lot of high falootin’ facials, but so did/does Kim R from BH, and her skin looks terrible from drinking and using. So, I’m inclined to believe that Sonja’s maybe at least partially playing a party-girl character.
Ramona’s full of beans! Just like Bethenny. Ramona said that Kristen “should’ve waited to talk to Bethenny when they all were able to sit down together” because she wanted to corner Kristin for yet another hazing ritual. Why the fuck would Kristen have to talk to anybody other than Bethenny about Bethenny’s behavior? That’s really grimy and messy on Ramona’s part. Fuck the Kitchen-Aid. Ramona needs a cement mixer.
@Beau-
I will have to re-watch. I usually have to watch my shows twice because I’m texting and distracted.
I don’t remember that, but it probably happened.
Either way, I still really like Kristen. She is way too naive and unseasoned for this bee’s nest.
@Minky-
Ramona has always been and will always be the worst RHONY for me. I can’t even put it into words. She’s infantile and rude.
And sorry Mink, but I fucking love Luann. Ever since that “Money Can’t Buy You Class” spectacle, how can you not? It was just too hilarious for words. I think Luann actually has a sense of humor about herself, as long as she keeps it and doesn’t go all snooty-bags again.
And re: Sonja- It has always appeared to me that she has a drinking problem. It was evident to me in her first season. I have a couple high school friends who are alcoholic. They drink, yet they get to work (some have amazing careers), they raise families. They still function at a high level. I think Sonja is a high-functioning alcoholic *alledgedly*.
@Minky-
One more thing I forgot to add about Sonja and the drinking.
Re: my friends who I grew up with whose drinking has worried me at times… They look fabulous. No booze bloat, no puffy face or stomach pop (as we called it in Detox). They look great, and they are still fun and fabulous.
I guess my point is Sonja may look good on the outside, but she makes that a priority. I still think she has a drinking problem.
*alledgedly*
I have always liked Kristen
She is s beautiful girl but this season she’s irritating. Its the faces she makes and comments in her talking head. She did try to get back at Bethany by coming at her before she even stop walking thru the door. Her comments come off snotty. She accuses everyone of fake crying, complained about people not liking her wearing two different pr of shoes when nobody said anything. She’s a stay at home mom and has no clue what its like to not be able to see your child when you are missing them. She was very rude about that too. She started the subject of Bethany in the Berkshires when she n Heather were looking to bash her. I am a Heather, Bethany, Dorinda and Lu fan. They have big personalities and make the show interesting. I loved Kristen last year but she is acting like she’s mad that Bethany is not filming with her enough so she does sneaky little things and Bethany can see right thru her. I hate bashing her because she can be the calm sweet one but she almost acts like a spoiled girl. Dorinda was wrong getting mad st Kristen about John. Kristen was playing and got out of the situation yet Sonja was right up against him, touching on him, came in in her robe and totally disrespected Dorinda and now draped herself like a blanket on him? What’s up w that Dorinda? I would not trust Sonja will my man when she’s drinking. I do feel for thr girls n think they have the right tp speak up. If they have to babysit her all season long and literally put her in bed, I’d be saying something too if Bravo keeps Sonja on for her nasty drunken actios. What’s a fun trip for free when you have to hear her screaming or hanging all over anyone, girl or guy! Heather is for sure tired if it. I don’t blame her for looking at her as a pain in the ass. Lol Sorry TT!! I know Bethany and Kristen talk this next week so I am hoping they can become friends. I don’t trust Carole. She ratted Bethany out knowing they already had tension and only coped to it because she got caught. Bethany, keep that filed away. I would love to see Heather and Bethany as friends. They would be hilarious together and think could be good for each other in a true friendship. Okay, done ranting. TT, I rarely write so let me know where rules are. Thanks!
Beth is a bitch period. There is really nothing about Kristen to dislike. She is the way she is with Heather and Kristen and even the others to some point because she does not want to waste her valuable time with them. She thinks she’s above them. I’d rather Beth left the show. I have barely watched since she came on. I will check out what people on the blogs are talking about and that’s it. Ramona should shut her nasty little mouth. Kristen is right – Beth and Ramona are all like – I’m fine and don’t discuss shit with anyone but expect them to read their minds. For instance, Ramona saying she decided not to say anything to Beth because blah, blah, blah. How is Kristen supposed to know that?
Beth?
I hated watching Heather call Bethany “Beth.” She is always freaking trying to run the show.
In your eyes!! Beth already said she doesn’t hate Kristen. You don’t have to dislike someone to not want to be best friends with them! There’s just no Initial chemistry. I’m like that also. If I don’t feel an instant spark with something I’m not going to fake it.. You’re there and I’m here. Doesn’t mean I hate you. Beth doesn’t think she’s above anyone. Beth vibes well with 5/7 (lu, dor, son,ramona, Carole) of the girls. Heather and Kristen need to stop trying to be in Beth’s clique and not take it so personal for now. If she didn’t have all those things going on right now it would’ve been easier for her to get along with them. They need to just be patient and give someone time to get to know them.
How I see it is that Bethenny ignores Kristen for the simple reason that she finds her totally uninteresting and that is why she dismisses her; in the same way that Gina used to dismiss Jackie in RHO Melbourne.
Man that Ramona is such a bitch sometimes! I enjoy watching RHONY, but Ramona, wow, kind of mean & a suck-up to Bethenny, ( I’m trying to be nice).
Hang in there Kristen.
I guess that I’m the odd girl out tonight. I like Bethenny and always have. I think she’s in an impossible new reality, sharing Brynn. I like Dorinda and Heather more each show. Poor Sonja does appear to need an intervention or at least a group Pow Wow where how much she drinks is a serious topic of conversation. Kristin…just not feeling her at all. She compared leaving her children to what B is going through being away from Brynn and that’s apples and oranges. Bethenny only sees her child every other day, so to speak. Maybe it’s b/c Kristin is just PUSHING in every scene, and each time she looks back at one of the HWs for support. Is it Heather she is glancing back at when she goes in on B. Oh, and I thought that Carol’s ‘lesbian dream’ story was b/c she knew she was busted for inciting Kristin to jump B at the dinner.
You are not the only odd girl out peach. This is my take on Bethenny and the cast. Luann, Sonja, and Ramona already had a history with her so it was easy to slip back into a relationship. Dorinda and Carole have been friendly and laid back with Bethenny, not pushing, and letting her come to them. Heather way too aggressive. Heather also, imho, likes being right a bit too much for my taste. Kristin, I don’t really think she has ever tried to have a relationship until she realize that she didn’t even exist in Bethenny’s world. Personally, Kristin could leave and I wouldn’t notice. There is too many women and she’s the one that is getting squeezed out. But it is still early in the season and things change.
I think Bethenny and Ramona don’t like Kristen because they think she’s dumb. They both called her dumb. Of course, they are sanctimonious, self made bitches, but still, it was kinda dumb to come out your first season with the tagline ‘I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I am pretty.” She set herself up for the dumb pretty blond and not to be taken too seriously in the brains department. This year it’s ‘pretty is smarter than you think’ in her little sing songy voice, which could be perceived as still pretty dumb 🙂 I’ve always perceived Kristen as kind of dumb too, even though she’s probably plenty bright, but that’s the perception she put out there…I’m just riding with it.
Good points, Ginger. I hadn’t thought of that, but she did set herself up to a degree with that tag line.
I still think she is the most genuine and the kindest of the group, though. And I don’t think she is necessarily dumb… I think she is naive.
Actually, I agree. As this second season has progressed, I’m thinking she is more naïve and nice than dumb, but I hope there are no more taglines concerning IQ…for her sake. Just saying. I also think Heather had it right when she said Ramona was acting the same way to Kristen, that she accused Kristen of doing to Bethenny, which was total hypocrisy and so like the Ramona of old. I was hoping she wouldn’t turn again, but it looks like she has.
@ginger
I am copying and pasting what you wrote, so you know what I am referring to.
You nailed it here… Ramona is a hypocrite and oh, so much more.
“I also think Heather had it right when she said Ramona was acting the same way to Kristen, that she accused Kristen of doing to Bethenny, which was total hypocrisy and so like the Ramona of old.”
And one more thing… I don’t believe that Mario is persuing Ramona again. No way.
I don’t get the naive comments. She’s in her mid-30s, travelled the world as a model, she’s friends with Brandi ffs. I’m sure she’s been around her fair share of bitches.
@ Anastasia-
Sorry girl, but I see her as being totally naive. No street smarts. She doesn’t know how to handle these women. They are too New York for her. She seems like she was raised in the Midwest.
I did have a strange thought though last night during my nightly insomnia spell…
I was thinking about Kristen and Brandi and what an odd pairing that is. But then it occurred to me
A). They may not even be “great friends”. They may be just two women who have worked together in the past and had some fun so Bravo decided to set up that luncheon.
or
B). They may be good friends because Brandi befriends the weak and vulnerable. She exploits those when she senses a weakness.
Eh, I respectfully disagree. Kristen is boring. Watching her last year was about the same as watching paint dry. I really cannot believe she was asked back. There have been many HWs much more interesting and likeable let go at one and done. But, I digress. This is how she gets air time, hopefully a 3rd return. Big bad Bethenny coming after sweet little Kristen. Please.
Kristen addressed that tagline on WWHL after the show. She said it was tongue in cheek & if she called herself “dumb” first, ie Dumb blonde, she was effectively defusing the hurtfulness of the term if she used it first. SHe also explained why she had to ask Bethenny when she walked in about the trip, cause she was working for luann at the shoot & had to leave for makeup & had rearranged her own kids’ schedules for the trip. SHe is a kind, beautiful sweetheart & Bethenny & Ramona are dried up old gunts.
I get what you’re saying Gingersnap. Nobody is really “self made”. We all have help. We all have to kiss ass and be nice to people we can’t stand. Investors are hard to get and easy to lose. Having friends in the right places who can point you in the right direction is everything. Bethenny and Ramona shouldn’t call anybody dumb. They’re both trying to talk shit about their ex husbands but instead have managed only to show the audience why they’re both impossible to live with. Kristen started a company without much fanfare. She doesn’t seem to be bragging about it or her achievements as a model every five seconds. I’m sick and tired of these women overemphasizing how great they are. It’s sickening. Bethenny and Ramona are both crazy.
Yes I agree that Bethenney and Ramona are dismissive of Kristen because they think she’s dumb. They both think they’re better than her. I also think Ramona just abuses Kristen for the fun of it. I really get the sense she takes sadistic pleasure from being mean to her.
Kristen isn’t particularly exciting but my only big issue with her is that she doesn’t seem to grasp that Bethenney’s situation with Bryn is not analogous to her situation with her children. Kristen could be a little more understanding
Ramona and Heather have always had issues with one another because they’re both dominant personalities and that might be part of the problem with Bethenney and Heather too. (Plus Ramona is one of those “gotta keep it real” assholes that think anyone that tries to be gracious in public must be fake.)
Bethenney also recoils from Heather’s overbearing nurturing Jewish mama bear persona. Heather means well but I totally relate to Bethenney in this scenario. I would feel smothered by it. Even if I’d known Heather for YEARS I’d feel smothered. But I wouldn’t react as rudely. Bethenney could benefit from a little charm school. hah.
Oh and @Pip I LOVE Luann! So glad she’s a regular housewife again. I’ve always enjoyed her and don’t get the hate. She may be pretentious but she’s fun and likes to have a good time. Plus she looks fabulous 99% of the time and has that awesome deep tranny voice. lol She’s a character! I was dying watching her photoshoot! She was so into it! lolol She’s got that commercial model cheerfulness down (Bethenney nailed it – it was a Maxi Pad commercial). Plus notice: She isn’t snotty to Kristen. Luann is open to everyone and that’s cool.
that’s because Luann is not uncool
lol Perfectly said
i’m pretty sure the taglines aren’t what the hw’s want to say. remember when joyce wanted to have a different tagline on rhobh but she had to take the one they gave her. the taglines are written out for them to read, like part of the script for the un-scripted hw fraachise
I wish that I had a dozen interns/ assistants helping me “run my house”, whatever the fuck that means. SonJa doesn’t even have a real job. I’m soley responsible for the cleaning and upkeep of my home, maybe I should hit up a few local colleges to apply for interns?
Sonja with all the interns makes her the most superfiscal person on the show. She always makes a big deal about training or teaching them mostly useless things. I think she has a good thing going with cheap labor. She probably couldn’t take care of her dogs or get herself out the door ever without all her help. I wonder who else she has, probably a housekeeper, nanny, and a chef she has trained in the fine art of toaster oven meal prep. Probably the real author of the toaster oven cookbook. Was that published, or just another of Sonja’s stalled ideas?
I highly doubt Sonja has a housekeeper or a nanny. Her daughter is too old for a nanny now (I think) and I have seen Sonja scrubbing mold from her own toilet (it was gross).
She can’t afford staff. So she uses these interns. SO BIZARRE, RIGHT??
I can’t imagine using college kids the way she does. It really is the weirdest kind of “internship” I have ever seen. I still don’t understand how students recieve college credits for cleaning Sonja’s house. Could someone please explain that to me again? I know we have covered it before, but I don’t remember the details.
Can someone enlighten me as to what was so horrible about Bethenys childhood? Did both her parents die and she had to prostitute herself in order to for her 10 brothers and sisters, five of which had terminal , untreatable cancer, and she held them in her armes and watched as one by one they died? I seriously want to know. As far as I can tell, she grew up in luxury and all her needs were met, had two parents (depending on which stepfather her mother married at the time). Did they abuse her, sexually molest her? What the hell was so wrong with her childhood that she cant get over. Did they not buy her the car that she wanted when she was 16? Not being facetious or a bitch, but I just dont know why this woman has so many problems? A friend of my very good friend, had a truly horrendous childhood. Her mother pimped her out to pay for drugs from the age of 6-15 until the time she was luckily was rescued by an elderly aunt out in California. There was not a moments joy in this womans childhood, yet she not half as neurotic, unstable and damaged as Betheny.
Her father left the family. Her mother was abusive, an alcoholic and strugged with eating disorders. Pretty sure her mother attempted suicide and bethenny walked in to find her with her wrists slit. her stepfather (though she says overall a good guy) beat her mother and abused drugs, and apparently hit her on a few occasions too. Nobody “parented” her, there was partying and chaos in the house always, her mother would pick up and leave on a whim or whenever her and her bf fought, and made it known constantly that she never wanted bethenny. Pretty sure she left for boarding school at age 16 and never came back. I’d say a quarter of that is enough to mess a kid up properly.
True, but at some point you deal with it and move on. IMO she seems to enjoy being stuck in a bad place. We’ve all had shit go on in or lives. I had parents who fought and at times drank to much. I could decide to dwell on that forever or I could decide to deal with it and move on from it. I’m not saying my life was horrible. But, I also know members of my family that grew up in residential schools, were brought up with the murder of the children around them, violence, sexual abuse and got the “Indian beat out of them”. One cousin killed himself but the rest grew up and led fulfilling, productive lives. They decided to be the ones in control of their destinies. The one loved to dwell in the past and it eventually killed him. Beth chooses to live in the past so she can use it as a shield to act anyway she chooses.
My question or vague feeling is there is mental health issues, probably genetic, on her mothers side. Bethenny inherited it and she gets more neurotic every year. The rapid speech, crying jags, lack of trust, over committing her schedule, just so so manic. only my opinion but i wonder if B needs medication.
Is anyone else confused by the fact that Bethenny loves this guy and thinks he’s great and yet he used to hit her mother?
They didn’t love her.
Sonja Morgan, you’re about to pay off your $7 million dollar judgment and another couple million in attorneys fees, what are ya doin’ next?! “I’m goin’ to Turks and Caicos!”
Yeah… No shit!
The only way Sonja is coughing up 9 or 10 million is if she is filing bankruptcy. She doesn’t have any money. When she announced that, I was like “huh”? I think the rest of the women were feeling the same way.
Sonja = delusional.
Pip, I believe that Sonja sold at least 1 house in Europe and it may have been more than one house. Most advised her over the years to sell her “house” in the city but she has worked all this time to save it along with the upkeep costs. I do hope her ship comes in soon. 🙂
I’m from Queens, and Parkside is worth the trip- amazing food and legendary place. I was salivating watching it. When I get my toes done in winter here, you dry a very long time, quick dry top coat, they put oil on your nails and wrap your toes in saran wrap before you put on your boots (uggs in my case, because they don’t pinch and it’s -10 degrees lol). Not ideal, but flip flops are not an option in those temps.
Ramona was totally wrong to snap at Kristen for asking bethenny about the trip. I don’t like kristen at all, but she really was just trying to sort out the matter, it wasn’t an attack, and she backed off immediately when bethenny got upset trying to explain she didn’t want to be away from bryn for the better part of a month. Ramona was totally wrong.
I still enjoy everyone on this particular Real Housewives franchise – which is kind of a miracle. They can all have annoying moments but they each have redemptive or at least ENTERTAINING moments as well.
Having said that, Ramona is back to being my least fav again. .I hate the way she treats Kristen. I’m not sure what it is about Kristen, her beauty, her girliness, the fact she’s nice, etc but whatever it is she sure brings out Ramona’s inner bully. That was pure bullshit last night. Ramona just picked on Kristen just to pick on her. Kristen didn’t do a damn thing wrong and I don’t buy for a millsecond that Ramona was dripping with empathy for Bethenney and felt COMPELLED to stand up for her against big bad Kristen. It was just Ramona getting out her frustrations on someone she deems weaker. I really dislike that part of Ramona’s personality.
There are just too many housewives on the New York Franchise. They need to cut out 3 or 4 of them and spend more time on the remaining women!
Bravo has just turned NY into one large “cat fight”. I want to see more of their day to day lives.
The constant product and venue promotion last night was EXTREME. Literally every scene was a mini commercial. Every week someone provokes a fight, the next week everyone gets together on the guise of discussing it while trying to sell us some nonsense.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Yes 8 is alot. The cynic in me wonders if Ramona and Bethenney are helping weed down the cast by freezing out Kristen and Heather. I hope they don’t get relegated to Friend of Housewife status next season.
As I said, I like them all. Hell maybe having too many housewives is the reason none of them annoy me too much this season. lol
No one will ever top the product placement king, House of Leggings. I really want to go have my picture taken at House of Leggings.
NO YOU DO NOT!
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You’re right. I dont want to go to House Of Leggings. It’s WORLD of Leggings we are going to have our play date at. Not just a House, a World. And they are currently having an 80℅ off sale.
It’s Beverly Hills. They have nothing in EXTREMELY FAT! Stop taunting me! :)
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Its a plus sized legging store. They have stuff that would fit the both of us standing conjoined twin style.
It’s possible that Bethenny is premenopausal. When I went through that, I would even tear up over a rerun of I Love Lucy.
Thank You
Bethany is so competitive; she had to introduce her daughter to her estranged step-father who beat her mother because she wanted her to know someone from her side of the family??? Jason has loving parents and probably other normal members of the family. I think she’s just so afraid of Bryn loving Jason more and she can’t handle not being top dog. If Jason got married and had more children and more sisters and brothers for Bryn, Bethany would explode. I hope Jason marries soon.
Yes me too. I thought Jason’s parents were lovely and I remember in one episode Jason was complaining that Bethenny wouldn’t let Bryn go and visit them. That made me really dislike her even more. And isn’t Bryn the absolute image of Jason! Especially the eyes. I wonder if that annoys Bethenny?
Didn’t Bethenny get all pissed off at carol for saying something snarky about Luanns hair or being from Connecticut, and how she hates when the girls are so quick to attack and bring someone down. I’ve never seen anyone happier to attack first.
“Bethenny dries her eyes in time to say that Luann’s photo shoot made her look like she was doing a stay free Maxi-pad commercial. Nice”
I love how Sonja alluded to paying off her millions in judgments. And by paying off, I mean she filed bankruptcy.
It’s funny when people try to act so hoity (interns, partying with P Diddy on her yacht, running an iternational lifestyle brand) when everyone knows you are broke as hell, and legally can’t have a pot to piss in when you file BK. And by hoity, I mean delusional.
They need to quit picking on Kristin. Watched her on WWHL and all she wanted was to get to know Bethany who is saying Kristin looks at her wrong next week (Andy said next week is the top of 4 weeks of madness). If you’re standing before me all the time and act like a lunatic constantly screaming and crying I’d look at you wrong too Bethany because you are cuckoo for cocoa puffs. The look Dorinda gave Ramona when she was talking down to Kristin was priceless..wanna see how Ramona’s outburst affects their friendship. Going watch Tyrant.
I like Kristen. I love seeing what she’ll wear.
People in NYC have small apartments so unlike OC or BH they don’t have huge houses in which to film. When the cast is filming in the Hamptons, they film at their fabulous houses. I don’t think it’s so much an infomercial as it is getting together in a restaurant, club, nail salon or wherever is willing to film and who cares if the bar name is in the shot. Personally, I like these girls night outs. The banter is fun for the most part and some of it is darn funny. I also don’t mind that their weekly tiffs are over in a week or two and that nobody is screaming at the top of their lungs. I hate those huge fights on the other franchises that vicious and last entire seasons or more. I like the tone NY has taken this year. It’s a big improvement over the last couple.
Of course it’s a cool 70 degrees here so I don’t have 100 degree weather to cloud my enjoyment of the show.
No matter how horrid the women are this season, they are still more likeable than A.D.
Who or what is A.D.?
I am watching this with half a heart, usually reading the TT’s recaps to see if the episode is worth watching. This is usually my favorite of the franchises but it’s just not must-see TV for me anymore. Part of the problem for me is that there are too many women and the scenes are all over the place.
Am hoping the trip will renew my interest.
I like Heather, but i’d tell her to back the F off is she kept trying to run everything. She’s one of those people that wants to control every damn thing, even when it doesn’t concern her. So, I get why Bethenny is annoyed with her. I think Kristen is actually very intelligent and perceptive. She may not be as witty or quick-tongued as Bethenny or Carole, but she definitely knows what’s up. Like other people mentioned, I think she gave the impressions she’s dumb because of her stupid tagline. I’d say the dumbest one in the group is probably Ramona. She can’t control her emotions or outbursts, doesn’t understand jokes or certain references, isn’t perceptive to other people’s problems (though she keeps saying she is), and has no idea what’s socially acceptable (did anyone see her on WWHL with Christina Ricci and how she kept interrupting her and grabbing her arms?). Luann is entertaining and so are Sonja and Dorinda. They should keep this same cast for next season.