So I just read through all the RHOOC blogs and was unimpressed by them. Shannon’s blog is all about her therapy and how they decided to do it on camera to help others in similar situations. Heather’s is all about how hard it is to build a ginormous mansion. Vicki’s is a Q & A about her relationship with Brooks. She seems to be finally setting limits with Brianna. Meghan’s is a vapid as you would expect. She referred to how cute she looked a couple times. So I settled on Tamra’s which was the most interesting. She is loving life as a “Tam-ma” not just to the new baby who is four months old now, but to the babies three step sisters as well. It seems she really has a great relationship with her daughter in law now. 
So let’s purple pen a bit of Tamra’s blog which was the best of the bunch:
Ya I know, I have a love hate relationship with my boobs. I wanted them big, small, smaller, bigger than natural??? The truth is I love the size I had, but all you girls out there that have natural boobs know that we just don’t have that fullness on top that breast implants give you. After years of working out and lowering my body fat I naturally lost some of my fullness so I thought…what the heck, why not? I called Dr. Ambe who I have been going to for years and he hooked me up. I went with a very small implant, 150cc and it gave me the fullness I wanted without going up in cup size. I am very happy…for now. LOL.
Part of me admires women who are not afraid to get surgery. I kind of broke my nose a couple years ago and had insurance and totally thought about getting it “fixed.” I did not do it for two reasons. First, I am terrified of surgery, and secondly, I’ve had this face for a long time. I like my face. It’s not the most beautiful one in the world, but it’s mine. I can’t imagine waking up to a new, more beautiful face. I think that would be weird. But I hold no ill will toward people who make the changes that make them happy. I just have difficulty relating. But when it comes to boobs, if I could wake up tomorrow with my girls raised up four inches and all nice and perky, I would totally do that. Tummy tuck? Absolutely if you have a magic wand. But I would not want a new face.
Can we please talk about Heather’s house. OMG is that the most insanely big house you have ever seen? Thirteen bathrooms, beauty parlor, seven thousand dollars sinks? Don’t even get me started on that gigantic closet. If I didn’t love her so much I would be green with envy. I can’t wait to see the finished product.
Interesting that she seems to be Team Heather. I don’t trust Heather to be a friend to Tamra.
Meghan is a great addition to the show. She is tall, beautiful, smart, and might have a bigger mouth than me? I can’t wait for you to get to know her better.
Ah, there is Tamra the crazy bitch. I was starting to like Tamra a little bit reading this blog. But there she is! I have ZERO desire to see any more of Meghan on my TV. Maybe it will change? But I doubt it.
I was a little surprised to hear Vicki say that she called me to tell me that Brooks had cancer and that I never reached out to her after that call. SAY WHAT? That is 100% incorrect!!! If I am not mistaken, Vicki said that she had not talked to me and didn’t care to reach out to me because she couldn’t trust me. So why would she call me to tell me that Brooks has cancer?
Good point. I can’t see Vicki reaching out to Tamra about Brooks’ cancer diagnosis. I could see Vicki making that up.
I found out that Brooks had cancer when it was announced online. I texted Vicki at that point (we were not speaking) and told her I was sorry to hear about Brooks’ cancer and asked her if he had started treatment. Vicki NEVER called me and I never called her! I am not sure what she was trying to do, maybe make it look like I am not a good friend and she was?
IF Tamra reached out to Vicki, that was nice.
I was also shocked to hear Brooks say that Terry checks up on him all the time, since I had heard that Terry had not talked to Brooks in months.
I find myself agreeing with Tamra here too. Terry is way too self-absorbed to reach out to Brooks. Oh about Brooks, I forgot to mention that Vicki had him sign a document drawn up by her divorce attorney the outlines his lack of financial standing regarding her income or property in the event that they separate. Vicki ended up paying Donn a lot of alimony and she is not one who is going to be taken care of financially. I believe that Brooks and Vicki are in love. For now. And really now is all that counts. Nothing is promised in the future. I hope she is happy.
Vicki is smart. Experience taught her to take precautions in order to avoid being burned again. Doesn’t Donn work? Why would he need alimony? Vicki’s at least being upfront with Brooks, much better than what Kandi did to Todd, IMO.
I still don’t trust Tamra. To me she’s even oilier than someone like Phaedra. Why would Vicki lie about contacting her? I’ve always thought of Vicki as over-the-top and excitable, but not dishonest.
Re Vicky paying alimony to Don – all I can imagine is they built their so called “empire” together. Pooled their money together to live a lifestyle they both became accustomed to (+ Don must have had a kick ass divorce attorney).
Yeah. Vicki is so smart that she is paying people alimony. That does not scream smart to me. The fact that she is trying to set things up right with Brooks (who seems to be a shyster) makes her “not a complete moron” at best.
Well, I don’t know what happened, but it seems that she was blindsided by Donn. Everybody’s entitled to a mistake or two. Which makes me wonder: Why is Brianna pulling for Donn? Especially in light of this alimony situation. Because that’s what I’ve understood from reading around this blog. That Brianna hates Brooks, because he’s a sheister and could deceive Vicki financially, but likes Donn because he’s allegedly a “father figure” to her (though not her biological father), even though it seems that Donn is the one who’s actually, successfully screwed Vicki out of her hard earned coin. WTF?
Brianna is also Team Donn even though she claims he was abusive to her mother. Brooks has done nothing abusive to Vicki and yet, Brianna is a cunt to him.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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That’s actually a really good point Minky. And since when is a court order based on the discretion of some judge a measure of intelligence?
Here’s the deal with Donn and the alimony. I know someone who was friends with Donn before Vicki. When they met, he was quite successful and wealthy. Vicki was a secretary at a lumber yard/home improvement store. It was Donn’s success that made it possible for Vicki to move to OC and to start her business.
It pisses me off that Vicki acts like Donn was a deadbeat husband. By the time the show started he was winding down his career and she was starting hers. It’s like when a wife supports her husband while he goes to medical school. She helped him get there, so she’s entitled to part of his earnings. Same deal with Donn.
This makes sense to me. This would also explain why Brianna has much more respect for Don. He was a successful man who elevated her mom to a level she may not have attained on her own. I know Brianna said her mom was in two abusive relationships, but how do we know she was referring to Don as one of them? Maybe I missed that somewhere.
DIdn’t Donn have Cancer too? Also, implied that Vicki’s previous relationships were with abusive men. Was Donn also abusive? I agree that she needs to protect her wealth and that she earned it by herself and no one else is entitled to it. I’m glad that she finally put Brianna in her place (whiny little bitch that she is), and I hope that Brooks can go into remission. His type of Cancer can be tricky (my son has it and is in remission). I tend not to believe much of what Tamara says because she has proven to be untrustworthy and NOT a friend to anyone. As for Heather…she disgusts me and I wouldn’t want to be friends with her or that new girl (shallow is thy name). I love your purple pen…it’s like seeing what I am thinking and I love when you use it.
In California a marriage is considered a community effort. There is no “mine” and yours” it is all ours. There was a long period of time early on when Vicki did not earn much at all and Donn provided the support. In fact, early on Vicki worked out of their home that Donn was paying for. They bought the house in Coto d’Caza based on Donn being the primary wage earner. In California the assets get split 50/50 when a marriage ends. Period. It does not matter who is the larger wage earner. Donn is entitled to that settlement under the law. Had Donn been the higher wage earner, you can bet Vicki would have also had her hand out for her portion of his money. Vicki drug out the final settlement trying to negotiate with Donn, but he held out for what he was entitled to under the law. Brianna is most likely referring to her and Michael’s father who was very abusive to Vicki. Although Donn could be an asshole on occasion, he was not abusive. Remember first season Vivki…nit an easy person to live with.
I have this feeling that Shannon is making her husband discuss his cheating on national TV as part of his ‘payment’. Something about some of his facial expressions during the counciling made me think that. I hope that he sincerely is sorry, that he loves her, and wants to change instead of staying because of money.
Yes. Last season Shannon’s husband had a perpetually annoyed/pissed expression on his face. This season I see a look of dread, worry and guilt. Something has occurred. Most likely not just the cheating, but also Shannon’s REACTION to it.
Did he even say a complete sentence to her? I heard him talk to the other guy in therapy, but to Shannon, I only remember one word answers. I wonder if he was that way only when the cameras were rolling or if he’s that way with her all the time. It felt like he was afraid to say anything because the things he might say would hurt her or cause another fight. It was like he was biting his tongue. No matter what people are involved, divorce is hard. And, painful.
David on TV=Self-Flagellation..
I think they just need to separate. That’s really a lot to come back from, and what has changed to improve the relationship? He described the affair as “feeling alive” for the first time in a long time. He’s not sorry for it, he’s sorry he got caught and it hurt his family, but he’s not sorry for it.
Haven’t seen the episode yet but him saying that is so sad. Not just for her & his kids (ugh, heartbreaking) but also b/c you know there was probably a lot of unhappiness for him to go there & admit that. I don’t think what he did is right, but it is also terribly sad that people stay in loveless situations/feel dead inside b/c they’re not w/ the right person – I imagine she felt the same way too. Perhaps airing it on TV is a way to prove to their kids & themselves that they are going to extremes to save an extremely broken situation – I have a feeling divorce is looming though..
The man looks like he is in intense pain. I wonder if it’s out of remorse or the fact that he’s with Shannon and not the woman he had the affair with. It’s all sad and depressing.
If I remember correctly – last season Shannon’s husband implied their lifestyle was part of the problem. Didn’t he say he’d prefer to life a lower key life without the grand house & all?
Shannon grew up with that lifestyle whereas he didn’t so I don’t see her compromising much with that one.
*live*
RE: Tamra’s Blog
I’m definitely more comfortable demonizing Tamra than thinking of her as a human being but perhaps this grandchild has had a good effect on her? She was in “I want a baby!” mode last year, wasn’t she? Maybe this grandchild fulfills that need in her. But it’s more likely that she’s just making a serious effort to manage how she’s perceived. She was a sobbing, botoxed,screeching mess by the end of last season. She wants to rehab her image a bit.
RE: Heather
There was alot of discussion in the last RHOC post regarding why some of us dislike Heather. One reason I don’t like her is because I think her “friendships” with Tamra and Vicki are phony from her end. If Vicki wasn’t the OG of the OC, Heather would not give her the time of day. She’d probably mock her as trashy and uncouth. The same with Tamra. I just contrast how Heather acts with Vicki/Tamra vs how she acted with Alexis in prior seasons and Shannon last season. I think Heather and Terry are very calculating and suck up to people they feel are “in power” and attack those they perceive as weak – sometimes to curry favor. Heather and Terry are like “mean girls” protecting their place in the clique.
Your assessment of heather is spot on.
Thanks. I was just trying to figure out why I dislike Heather so much. lol
– It’s not her conspicuous consumption. She and Terry have the right to spend their money however they please. 12 bathrooms is ridiculous and the bragging can be annoying but neither trip my trigger.
– It’s not her vocabulary. Actually I find it funny that Vicki and Tamra are so clearly intimidated by it.
It’s totally because she (and Terry) are such calculating phony mean girls.
I would LOVE to hear what they say about all these people they suck up to like Vicki, Tamra, Eddie, etc behind closed doors.
It would probably be more entertaining than her bragging about her mega mansion.
Re: Heather’s vocabulary. Call me crazy, but she doesn’t really sound all that smart or educated to me. I can’t see much of a difference. She and Tamra and Vicky are interchangeable as far as brains go. I’ve met a lot of educated assholes too.
Yes, she and Terry are mean girls! That, and Heather’s bragging are too much for me.
As Dorinda would say, money talks and wealth whispers.
I did not see this as bragging. All the discussion regarding the house were for the most part in Heather’s talking heads. This are clearly driven by production. They ask the questions, she just answered. In particular the bathroom question, she was asked how may were in the new house, she just answered them.
As far as the friendships go, I do not think many of them in any franchise really see/talk to each other when they are not filming.
spot on. total mean girls.
ITA. I also think Heather is insecure and tries too hard. Every time she says “Champs” I roll my eyes. She’s pretentious and a loser.
I totally agree about both Heather and Terry. They do not seem like nice people and everyone that they befriend has a purpose in their over-all plan for themselves. They need friends in the OC and on the show so they act friendly when probably scorning everyone behind their backs. Heather is a horrible person and Terry is beyond ambitious. I hate to see him with Paul Nassif (who seems like a really nice guy) on Botched. Between the two of them (Terry and Heather), they need an even bigger house to hold their collective egos.
Damn, I totally forgot about their giant egos needing to fit in the house. I totally get why they need all that square footage now.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Didn’t the Beador house have more sq. ft than the DuBrows? I always sort of felt that was why they needed the new house.
Yes, @tversky, totally agree with all your reasons to dislike the Dubrows (and your assessment of the things that don’t particularly bother you about them). I don’t understand those who still think Heather and Terry are fun, classy, or nice people. Especially after watching their behavior last season. Manipulative, yuck.
I agree with TT that she had a genuine moment of concern last week when helping Vicki though.
Tamra is on a rehab my image tour. I dont think she can resist stiring the pot so lets see how long this lasts.
If Vicki is happy then I am happy. Brooks fills up her love tank or whatever mumbo jumbo analogy you want to use.
Tamra was on a “rehab my image tour” last year but failed miserably. Actually it seems every season she tries to rehab her image but her true colors always come through loud & clear.
I agree with you. Tamra can’t rehab an image that is so totally her personality and her core self. She is what she is and pretending to be something else will never work for her. She is on the show because of who she is (ala Brandi and Nene) and that’s how she will stay no matter how hard she tries. If I were her son and his girlfriend I’d watch those babies because I wouldn’t put it past Tamra to try to gain custody if the opportunity presented itself. She is an unfulfilled person looking for someone to fill up her own love tank. I don’t think that Eddie is up for the job and apparently neither are her other children. She seems like an empty vessel to me and that can be dangerous.
HAHAHA, I just love it when not-smart people call other not-smart people smart. Yes, of course she seems smart, TO YOU Tamra. It’s not exactly a high threshold. Anyways Megan bores me, and I just think she seems disingenuous. My boyfriend and I commented to each other “the things people do for money” after watching how her husband speaks to her. Although she had one entertaining moment when she attempted to twerk – look Megan, twerking just isn’t for everybody, ok?
I was just trying not to pay too much attention to the Shannon/David scenes. Shannon just seems so vulnerable all the time, and David seems to take advantage of that at times. Or he has a mean streak or something. I wonder what they initially saw in each other? There’s no point staying together when you’re so miserable.
I’ve heard “if you marry for money, it will be the hardest money you ever earn.” Not sure if that is true or not. Your first two sentences cracked me up!
“If you marry for money, it will be the hardest money you ever earn.” I never heard that before but depending on the circumstance I do believe it can go either way. If you wind up falling deeply in love during the marriage – after a while the expensive apology gifts mean nothing & you’ll work hard via counseling (or ?) to keep the marriage together. But – if you truly love the money more – some people allow their partners infidelities then reap the rewards of the lifestyle & eagerly accept each & every apology gift (+ get their own “side piece”).
The more I think about it TRULY marrying for money will be the hardest money you’ll ever earn because it must be hard hiding all your infidelities from your spouse. You married them for money but that doesn’t mean you’re still not looking for love. 😉
Speaking of not waking up with your own face, old crazypants Shannon seems to be hitting the plastic hard.
(I HATE THE ONE ARMED SWIFFER GUY!!)
teecee66 why do you hate the one armed stiffer guy? Is it because he has 1 arm or that he’s using it to make money by doing a stupid commercial? Maybe it’s because he’s pretending he does the cleaning. Oh possibly because he seems happy that he can do things by himself with the swifter. I’m just curious.
Aww shit I meant swiffer not stiffer or swifter. Should read the post before hitting post comment. Though it was kind of funny.
Not to speak for TeeCee but apparently for some people the commercial autoplays WITH SOUND. That would annoy the piss out of me too. They sound doesn’t come on for me unless I turn it on.
Plus, TeeCee probably hates one armed people. Because she is an equal opportunity hater. Let’s just be happy she is here. 🙂
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Cause he YELLS at me when I haven’t even clicked the fucking ad. Which can be embarrassing if people are around.
teecee66, please excuse my questions and my curiosity. My sound wasn’t on and I didn’t hear that irritating as hell one armed swiffer guy. I am now also a hater because he yells at me too. Have to turn off the sound now every time I come here so I don’t have to hear him and the other commercial. Where do I find ad block plus?
google it. and download it. It’s free and you will still see my ads but it should get rid of the screaming. Let me know how it works.
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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a) try ad block plus. You still see my ads but the sound doesn’t start automatically. Does anyone else get the sound whether they want it or not? I can’t always even find the place to turn the sound on.
b) It’s California. Men have the same rights to alimony as women. Style he is accustomed to and all that. Vicki fought the alimony in court FOREVER because finally realizing the law is the law.
c) Vicki is a smart business woman, but still a whacko and not very good with relationships.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh I meant to say that everyone is saying Shannon had a lot of work done. She doesn’t seem the type to do that. I guess if she did it was instigated by the cheating. I think Shannon is pretty either way.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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She has developed chip monk cheeks. Looks like what normal people look like when they are taking a steroid. But since they are HWs, you assume plastic first.
I am guessing Tamra loves her daughter-in-law because she gives her a story line and people to talk to since no one in the cast will have anything to do with her.
After working in a hospital all these years, I would never have surgery unless I was going to lose my life, a limb, or an important organ without it–MRSA–nuf said.
Shannon needs to dump David and find a man who adores her for who she is.
I am not hating Brooks as much as I did. I probably feel sorry for him. Glad Vicky is protecting herself financially. I hope she lets him take a nap now and then, though.
New girl barely exists–except as a small annoyance.
Oh, wow Lisamia. Maximum respect to you for working in a hospital. I see the ER and surgery nurses and I’m in awe. Unnecessary surgery is scary. I always think of that episode of The Twilight Zone ” Eye of the Beholder” w/ Donna Douglas ( aka Ellie Mae Clampet). We totally live in that world and we just won’t admit it to ourselves.
Minky, I remember that episode…wasn’t it creepy? Ewww, they all wound up looking like pigs.
That MRSA is some nasty stuff. I agree about no voluntary surgery. I’ll have surgery when I have a dissection or some other horrible thing happen.
@lisamia – I have a friend who got MRSA when he was hospitalized for pneumonia.
DJFL, unfortunately it’s the people who are already weak and immune-suppressed that catch it. All hospitals take great care to teach their workers proper hand washing technique, but all it takes is one person forgetting to wash their hands, or one piece of equipment not cleaned properly. Scary.
I am NOT reading this whole surgery discussion. I imagine I will eventually need something. This is not helping.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Okay, no more medical talk, Tamara. Hugs!!
I think in regards to the whole Vicki and don thing they probably didn’t have a prenup. When they married don was the bread winner so Vicki didn’t see the need for one. Just my assumption
I actually felt bad for Tamra watching the first episode.
She looked morbidly beautiful laying by herself
in the corner of a hospital, on display like a coffin and rambling about how her lip gloss makes her feel better. It just seemed like the summation of a sad life.
Granted I hardly remember anything from last season and know she can be a total bitch, but I could understand the frustration in feeling alienated for relatively harmless comments like green aliens and e-mails about a crumbling marriage that is being put on display way beyond anything we’ve seen on HW.
Tamra Barney is incredibly brave about plastic surgery. She does not bat an eye! I have to say watching her get surgery in a previous season, it gave me something to admire in her, in a way. Bravery is impressive but I can not relate to glibly going to get elective surgery. I had a girl friend in L.A. who explained to me that plastic surgery is addictive. I guess that is pretty clear from looking at some of these ladies. I think my friend partially liked the drugs.She got to be in a drugged out state for like a week. I thought of her when Tamara got into the o.r. and was all ,”alright, hey Dr. Feelgood!”.
Out of Vickis mouth last December, she said she was told that in order to not have her role reduced she must film with brooks or have her role relegated to FOHW. Andy had a different view but still.
David and Shannon have lost their spark. Last season, they were ‘working’ on it…working, working, working, to bring back that spark. Dayum, if you’ve always have to be working on that ‘spark’, then it’s pretty illusive, maybe even non-existent, maybe even dead. Relationships shouldn’t always be work. Fuck that. I like Shannon but she is neurotic as hell, and I’m really not defending David for having an affair, but shit happens. Naggy people are the worst. The dude walks around on eggshells. I guess in a way, I am defending David. (sorry/not sorry). I believe he loves Shannon and his family, but he’s tired of not being able to eat chips before dinner without being nagged at. If he feels like he’s being suffocated, it’s because he is. Just saying.
I hope they are able to pull through this together, intact as a family…but I dunno. It’s going to be a whole lot of work.
I hear you about the face thing. I’d do nearly anything else but touch my face surgically. The idea of waking up in surgery and not looking like ‘me’ creeps me out.
I also get irked by teeth bleaching. Had it done once lightly and the difference in the mirror was unsettling. I’m not a fan of change.
Hmmm, finally caught my bootleg episode, it started out calm enough, I guess and Tamra does have the best blog of the week. Tamra seems a bit chill starting out this season; i suspect it’s because having grandchildren has now given her a life purpose outside of instigating nonsense. Sorry to see Vicki have to go through the cancer experience with Brooks; they’re not my favorite cast members, but I wouldn’t wish that experience on anyone. Heather…I love opulence, I love smart girls, I love the confessional jokes & zingers and appreciate any Housewife that will volunteer them as comic relief, but pointing how many bathrooms you have and what your sinks cost is unbecoming; calm down, Girl…you’re starting to look a little Victoria Sigel-ish with a touch of Alexis Bellino. Everyone else Tamra mentioned in her blog I don’t remember.
Meghan is smart?