It’s time for the premiere of Season Ten of Real Housewives of Orange County. So much of our lives wasted watching this nonsense, but I can’t look away.
Heather
We start with Heather in the kitchen with her kids making breakfast. Her youngest daughter who looks to be about 4 or five has a pacifier. Heather tells her to take it out because she is not in bed anymore. She refuses and Heather does nothing. I see an orthodontics bill and a shrink bill in that one’s future. Heather goes right into how fine she is at the huge rental house they live in. Pretentiousness already as they ride out to new house that has like 50 foot ceiling in the foyer and a porte cochere which is apparently a new word for them that describes essentially a driveway that goes through a structure to an interior courtyard. Which is not what they have. They have a canopy structure outside their front door that cars can drive under to avoid the elements when entering or leaving. I hate these people again in the very first scene. I can’t deal with another season of NOTICE ME! NOTICE ME! I AM RICH! I’d love to just see their houses without all the constant bragging. Heather is exhausted by purchasing seven thousand dollar sinks for her beauty salon.
At the :40 Heather tells us she has 14 bathrooms in her house. I would be so embarrassed to say that on TV. Especially in California where water is at such a premium.
Vicki
Vicki goes to meet Shannon for dinner. Shannon is already discussing her new yeast free diet. She doesn’t do salad dressing because it has vinegar. Um, vinegar is super good for you. What does vinegar have to do with yeast. Vicki says that Brooks just moved into the house with her. Shannon says she is glad for her. Brianna is pisssed about it. I don’t care. Brianna needs to put a sock in it. Both Vicki and Shannon look lovely. Especially, Vicki. Vicki says something about how Shannon and David are doing so well now, and Shannon looks like she is hiding something.
Tamra
Tamra is getting new boobs. Again. Eddie looks terrible. What has she done to him. Tamra is now close with her new daughter-in-law, Sarah. Sarah is almost ready to have the baby. Tamra’s face looks different. She is not wearing much make-up, so that could be it. Tamra claims she learned last season to think twice before she speaks. She says she is going to tell people what they want to hear, “Life is beautiful and my breasts are real.” Tamara says she is not going to share herself with anyone this season.
We get to see Tamra get new boobs. She is upset that none of her “friends” are there for this momentous occasion. Tamra is setting up a lonely victim storyline and I hate it.
Tamra is having a baby shower for herself. Um I mean he daughter in law. It’s a country theme replete with hay bales. Her mom is there and so is her ex, Ryan’s dad. Lynn Curtain also shows up.
Meghan
Heather goes to meet Meghan for dinner she allows Terry to join them later. Heather is friends with both the second wife and the new third wife he divorced her for. Heather sees no moral issue with this. I promise you the second wife will not be her friend much longer. Somehow they start talking about IVF. Meghan says that Jim has an issue so they have to do IVF. Heather says she did that and has two left over embryos. I hate Meghan. I hate Heather. I really want to fast forward. But this is her first scene. Ah, mercifully it is over.
Later we see Meghan and Jim bickering while Meghan does a talking head saying how Jim is so kind to her and sees her soul or something. He seems like a dick. They bicker a lot. Jim has no idea where his wedding ring is. And here comes the CANCER LIE. They did not move back to OC so Meghan could be on RHOOC, no they moved back because Hayley her step daughter wanted to so she could be near her mom who “is sick.” Hayley’s mom is not sick. She has been in remission since 2012. It’s ironic that everyone will question whether or not Brooks has cancer but will all assume that Meghan is telling the truth about why she moved back. I hate this bitch. And apparently so does her ready-made “family.”
Vicki
Brooks! Vicki and Brooks are planning a get away to Mexico. Brooks looks like he has lost a lot of weight. He was diagnosed with stage three non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma four months before taping. Vicki is trying to keep him from eating white bread, ranch dressing or cheese and sticking to a decent diet but he is not having it. Brooks is still doing chemo.
Vicki says that Brianna has decided that Brooks doesn’t have cancer. How obnoxious. Vicki is taking Brooks on a first class trip to Mexico to keep his spirits up.
Vicki calls her mom. Which breaks my heart since I believe she dies this season.
Shannon
Shannon says he marriage has been very bad over the past year. David looks super skinny and not in a good way. Shannon and David are going on a couples retreat. Shannon says the happy ending last season did not last for very long. This couples retreat is some bullshit. Shannon blurts out that David had an affair. We don’t need to know this much. I hate seeing Shannon’s pain.
By the way, Shannon’s parents ALLEGEDLY bankrolled David’s business.
I really don’t want to be watching this stuff let alone recapping it.
Next week: Are they all in Mexico with Vicki and Brooks? I dunno. My brain is full.
Quick thoughts:
1) Tamra’s succubus nature reveals itself more each season, as she slowly drains the life force of each man who let’s her in. Pobre Eddie.
2) Brooks is on his way to a Camille Grammer level of on screen redemption.
3) I love Brianna, but she no longer lives in the house, so her having a say in where Brooks lives is increasingly irrelevant.
4) TT and I disagree on the Dubrows.
5) Shanon and David make me uncomfortable. That they are airing their marital issues on TV like this is really really just awful and speak to their character.
6) Gretchen who?
I agree about Shannon and her husband, kind of like a bad car wreck. Very tough to watch, gut wrenching to see the pain and you can tell it isn’t like Tamra’s fake tears. Tamra… gross. She is so nasty, and there is a reason she has no friends with her. Vickie still makes me sad, she seems to be less of a drama queen. For so many years her kids were her focus and now she is her focus, along with Brooks.
You know what? I think you just gave me the key to unlock The Mystery of Vicki: since her late teens she has been focused so much on either her husband or her kids that she never focused on herself. It’s not that she’s self absorbed, its that she lacks self reflection.
I agree with you X and The Real Deb…I can’t imagine playing this out on TV for the whole world is going to help Shannon & David at all ! At the time it happened or she discovered it , the kids found out and in dealing with it in private.Now to rehashing it over and over on TV! Tamara could’ve just given the $ away she spent 3 times on her boobs cause no, matter how great she thinks she looks that won’t change what she really is!
I don’t understand casting of Meghan. I think Sharon Beador has driven her husband completely insane. Her childhood issues? Boo- freaking hoo. Maybe if she was kind and actually liked her husband and didn’t nag him to death, her marriage would be different. Once somebody cheats it is very hard to come back from that and it makes me sad that she is sharing this on national television. I find it humiliating. The poor kids. Tamar’s plastic surgery face is very disturbing this year, and Vicky’s did not settle well. I’m not so sure I can get interested in this season.
gessie, is there anything you like about any of these shows? if not why do you watch.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh, ye olde “nagging wife makes man cheat” trope. Well perhaps she had good reason to nag. You could see this a mile away last season, he really treated Shannon with contempt. That is a big red flag and a very bad sign.
I loved Gretchen, as dumb as she could be. I kind of missed her on the show.
Me too. I miss first season Gretchen. She was so sweet and fun.
No, there is nothing I like about the RHOC anymore. I still like Beverly Hills, and RHONY.
I agree Gessiewtf. Nothing much here. My favorite housewives is RHONY. I’m curious about Beverly Hills and how the new season will be without Kim Richards and possibly Brandi.
Agree on most of your points, Shannon hated people talking about her marriage but I guess this season she doesn’t hate the viewers talking about it. Very awkward.
Sad for Vicki and Brooks, he does not look well. Briana saying he doesn’t have cancer is crazy to me, when does she let her mom be a grown up already.
Tamara and her breasts are a snooze, Eddie looking bad is starting to morph into Simon. Wonder if it’s dawn on him that Tamara was not only high maintenance by highly crazy.
If it is true that vicki has been in two or more abusive relationships prior, and her daughter had to witness that and help pick up the pieces afterwards, I can completely and totally understand Briana’s issues with Brooks. He has been shady since day one, that man is over the top, cringe inducing, suspicious, and not to mention, abusive himself with his comments toward briana. If my mother was dating a man that told my husband, on tape, that he should start beating me to get me in line, I wouldn’t trust him or want him anywhere near my family. I don’t care how you say you’ve “changed’, men that are capable of such things don’t change. I would not risk it and would not be around it. So I don’t fault Briana at all for her thoughts on Brooks, if Vicki wants to roll that dice she’s a grown woman and that’s her choice but imagine how she’d handle it if the situations were reversed.
Vicki would be all over the supposed abuser/shady fellow like white on rice.
I really think Vicki created this situation with Brianna. It allows her to feel like the victim, I don’t know why but she appears to like being in this role. Brianna only has this power because Vicki offers it up – I’m sure this has been going on a long, long time.
Brianna doesn’t have to like Brooks but accusing him of faking cancer takes it to a whole different level. She’s a nurse but says he doesn’t look like someone with cancer, as if all cancer patients have a certain look about them.
Someone mentioned that Vicki had been in two abusive relationships. I have heard her talk about her first husband and her issues with him but I’ve don’t recall her saying anything like that about Don.
@TulsaTeacher
I agree. Accusing someone of faking cancer is pretty low.
He doesn’t seem himself. He seems quiet and unengaged.
And Vicki clearly loves him. She seems lighter and happier.
He’s good to Vicki and he loves her. And he sure seems sick to me.
Brianna needs to zip it. Her husband seems like the abusive, aggressive one.
I want to reply to Xanadude, but no reply button there, but I wanted to say I agree with his assessment of Vicki. When my father died over 10 years ago, my mother (who was 75 at the time) said it was the first time in her entire life that the only person she had to take care of was herself. She loved it, but I can’ see it leaving a void in someone like Vicki.
I agree. I think Vicki is finally putting herself and happiness before anyone else, which good for her, she should. Her kids are grown and she should be having fun and enjoying herself. If that’s with brooks then Breanna needs to get over it. She’s just hurting herself and being selfish.
Love #6. I didn’t realize she was gone, until I read your post.
Totally agree with all your points xanadu! Would also add that while Vicki is surely concerned about Brooks, it’s gotta be exhausting being around her! Bitch needs to change her cocktails from blue cheese olive martinis to some damn xanax and prozac!
yes! vicki exhausts me just to watch. i cannot imagine her in my actual life. she requires so much, so so needy!
How could Shannon and her husband go on television and share that much? So sad to watch, the worse thing is that I don’t believe much is real on reality TV, but they could not make up the affair, could they? It was horrible to watch.
A sense of déjà vu here, with the Beadors. Like watching Tamra and Simon’s marriage unravel. That sucks. I really like the Beadors but they should quit this show
Their poor children. Not only do they know their dad had an affair, they have to watch it all play out on tv. So wrong.
I like Shannon, but I hate that her husband did that to her and that she feels it necessary to show that to the world. Maybe that’s her way of shaming him? She seems like a nice lady, but somewhat insecure. Does couples therapy work? Especially this weird kind on the show?
I wonder who he had an affair with. So sad because Shannon seems like such a sweet person. Hearing her say she thinks maybe she wasn’t present enough for her kids was so sad too!
Yes, Shannon is nice among the ladies on the show. But we don’t know what she’s like as a spouse. I don’t condone cheating, but I can see maybe why David felt a bit suffocated. Shannon can be very controlling and neurotic. That’s cute on your television screen one hour a week, but exhausting to live with everyday.
Yes couples therapy can work. as a trained master’s level therapist I can say this is not the way it should be conducted.
Watching Shannon is exhausting. I can only imagine what living with her must be like. She needs to stop worrying about being yeast free and hanging her crystals and start looking deep inside. They need to sit down away from the cameras and work on their marriage. It makes me cringe every time she says divorce is not an option. My best friends parents stayed together for the kids, let me tell you it is worse. As an adults she tells her mom she wishes they just would have gotten a divorce. The stress and tension in the house was unbearable. Add to that the guilt the child feels in knowing that they are the reason that 2 people who hate each other are staying together.
If she cannot reconcile the affair, she needs to get out to save her sanity. Every minute he is late in coming home she will think, every business trip, every business lunch, she will drive herself crazy.
Not understanding putting it all out there, finances about David’s business, marriage, children’s heartbreak. How is fixing your marriage with cameras zooming in a good thing? Meghan is off kilter, her confessional about her husband was like pointing out what kind of man he wasn’t. He was dismissive, rude, and condescending. Wow
@mmayk
Meghan IS off kilter! I have never taken such an immediate disdain to ANY housewife before. But it was immediate for me. I can’t even pinpoint it… Just phony. Her husband seems like an asshat. What a rude prick. She’s a woman who clearly married for fame and money.
Just the site of Tamra gets me angry. She starts every season like this, “I’ve learned so much! I’m such a wonderful person! Aren’t I amazing! Tell me tell me!!”. Shove it.
Eddie hates his life.
Why do I keep watching??!!??
Spot on, she starts out that way then goes back to her crazy ways. It seems Meghan will be Tamara’s megaphone, at least from the previews. Crazy!
Tamra on her fourth boob job. Kinda says it all, in my opinion. That woman is so desperate for attention.
Eddie DOES seem a little beaten down, doesn’t he? Heh heh. Poor sap.
When Tamra was married to Simon – wasn’t that one of her storylines → getting a breast enlargement? History seems to repeat itself with her.
(The only bright side – there’s no kids involved this time).
While Heather was doing her talking head about the bathroom sink, the bathrooms–counting them off one by one until she got to 14!–all I kept thinking was this is the year she’ll lose half her fans. Abundance is a blessing; braggadocio is not. Ugh.
Brooks is thin. He was swimming in his clothes. Isn’t that a visible sign of cancer?
Shannon looks half dead. Now I hate David. I would never tell my husband divorce is not an option, under ANY circumstances. That’s a “go ahead and cheat card.” So sad.
Huh?
Yeah, overkill much? I’ve been in homes with more bathrooms than that. It’s revolting. What precisely is the owner of that house trying to convey to the world? I live in a hotel? Or, I shit A Lot!!! Heather is full of it.
Shannon might be the financially dominant one in that marriage and that’s why she calls the shots. If I were in a relationship that was as unhappy as the Beadors’ looks, I’d say goodbye and I’m gonna go find someone who can make me happy, and I expect you to do the same. Too many people stay in bad relationships for too long because of insecurity and fear. You’ve got to love yourself first.
I think she loves him, and then there are the kids. Like I really know her, ha! I’m sure it’s complicated, though.
… or murder: When “divorce is not an option”. I’ve seen Dateline once or a billion times. Poor both of them.
I have a feeling David is gonna regret airing this for her and leave under the humiliation of it all. Especially after he said to the guy “I started to feel alive” in reference to the affair.
I think most people feel this way when they have free sex without the constraints of chronic misery. after all, sex should be fun . . . . right?
Exactly. I think David will be out of there within 12 months. Shannon is such a naggy wife, and he caught a glimpse of something different with his affair. Yes, divorce sucks, but so does living as an empty shell. Just look at him — there’s no life in his eyes. For the sake of everyone, I hope they divorce and move on.
That “alive” comment made my heart hurt for Shannon. No matter how much love she might feel, he seems to have checked out on their marriage when he checked into those hotels. Who keeps receipts from an affair? Only someone who wants to be caught.
Yeah, Meghan seems pretty vile. I was trying to ignore what she was saying and figure out why she looked familiar…she looks quite like Elle MacPherson from many angles. Her personality counteracts her looks though.
Oh, Brianna. You think Brooks is faking because he doesn’t “look sick”? Ucch. My father didn’t “look sick” either, not until right before the very end – and even then, he didn’t look near as sick as he was. From the preview, Brianna needs to worry about her dietary intake and its effect on her own health, and stop speculating about Brooks.
Eddie did look terrible. I guess living with a screaming, trashy banshee tends to wear on one.
Well I guess Ryan has a type. Sarah looked not unlike Gretchen (or his own mother *ahem*) at the “baby shower”.
Maybe the medical-types around here would know: when you have surgery, aren’t you supposed to remove all make-up and nail polish? I’ve seen many Housewives before as well as Tamra tonight, roll into recovery with 6 layers of mascara, lipstick, etc. I remember hospitals being adamant about that, but of course that was years ago. Has that changed?
I think they all have post-op makeup artists. Makeup is not a no-no, but nail polish (especially dark) usually is because it affects the pulse oximeter.
Ryan still looks like a serial killer.
Erikzu, honey! What did I write in a comment a couple of post back? A couple of seasons ago, when the audience was first introduced to Ryan (Tamra was still married to Simon), Tamra takes him to a night club with her. Why? I don’t know. Anyhoo, Ryan keeps flirting with what you’ve astutely identified as his “type”. In her talking head, Tamra, the philosopher, says something like: “Ryan seems to have a thing for blond women with big boobs who look like strippers. I can’t imagine why?” Apparently she didn’t approve of Ryan’s preferences. Tamra is even dumber than she is evil. And yes DJFL, he does look like a serial killer. Ew.
I remember that, and I thought she WAS approving of his preferences. I got the impression she was bragging that he went for women that resembled her. It was a bit ick. She made a similar type of comment last season, but I can’t remember the specifics.
I’ve wondered about that myself. It’s been about 15yrs since my last surgery but prior to each & every one there were always strict orders – No makeup / no polish on fingernails or toes / no contact lenses. I don’t understand why they now allow it — unless it’s editing.
When they showed Tamra on the table in the OR during the surgery, I noticed that she was wearing false eyelashes, and I thought “WTF?”.
I never thought of telling the dr’s “I refuse to follow those rules”. I’ve never worn much makeup (or polish) & have never worn false eyelashes in my life — but I recall being told (on more than 1 occasion), if you forget we’ll take it off for you prior to surgery. Maybe some women put up such a stink, they’re forced to sign a waiver. Actually the more I think of it – I do know women who never go without makeup – even while they’re sleeping.
Tamra has eye lash extensions, not the removable type.
Where have I been? I didn’t realize such a thing existed but I just read up on them & got quite an education. Just what I need – spend min. 2hrs having them applied & a trip every 3-4 weeks for touchups. Too high maintenance for this gal. I’ll just keep batting my eyes without them. 😉
Oh good point deb, Kelly ripa has those too. I should get some but they take like hours to sew in, and well, no one to see them.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Dear Ericzku, I love your comments but I am going to take offense to one thing you said. If you don’t like Brianna’s attitude find but she has thyroid disease and recently had a baby. “From the preview, Brianna needs to worry about her dietary intake and its effect on her own health” was a very in sensitive statement . I’ve suffered from it for years and it TOTALLY fucks your metabolism. Love ya though!
I saw the false eyelashes and thought really? Eyes get taped shut during surgery. Maybe her makeup person slapped the stuff on her during recovery once she was really awake and the sleepy oxygen mask stuff was scripted. Tamara has so much filler in her face; she looks fake. She used to be very pretty.
I hate the new wife. More obnoxious than Gretchen. Nuff said. Heather looks like she had a lot of work done. She reminds me now of Joel Greys character from Caberet.
14 bathrooms. True conspicuous consumption.
Poor Brooks. He looks ill. I understand the healthy diet, but let the guy have some ranch dressing, Vicki. City of Hope is a top notch cancer treatment/research hospital.
Brianna, as a nurse you should remember that chemo like weight loss surgery is not
unless it is needed. Why anyone would volunteer to put poison in their veins si they can puke for the next week so they can garner sympathy. If Vicki wants Brooks in Her House, she should have him in her house. She does not owe her daughter anything. She made sure Brianna had a good education. Brooks does indeed look thin and he looks very tired.
Tamra was wearing the false eyelashes DURING the surgery.
I had knee surgery last year and I wore make-up-I like it to look soft and natural-no foundation but mascara, blush etc. Yes, I’m vain. It’s hard to look good without makeup at 51. (IMO)
Things have definitely changed over the past 15yrs or maybe rules & regs vary per state. I’ve had nearly 2 dozen surgeries & every one had clear written instructions “no makeup, nail or toe polish” (or we’ll have to remove it prior to surgery).
ETA: 99% were abdominal surgeries. I always assumed it was a bacterial issue + they didn’t want makeup on breathing apparatuses, etc. during surgery.
Out of curiosity were you informed pre-op (written &/or oral) no makeup but you chose to wear it anyway or was it never discussed?
Well, we wanted reality in our fake reality TV. Looks like Shannon and David are giving it to us. Gutsy move.
When Tamra said gay cowboy I half expected to see Eddie in a hat. For a moment I thought he was coming out.
Meghan. Ugh. I am going to channel Vicki and say one more bitch that I have to try to like.
Sadly the Shannon stuff is real. She would never do this to their kids if they did not already know. I do think there is an element of showing the other woman it is over involved. Which is sad.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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In her blog she writes, “.. after much counseling and discussions with our children, we thought that we would tell our story with the hope that other couples who have faced similar heartbreak can repair and restore their marriage like David and I are doing.”
So, they discussed the affair with their children? Wholly inappropriateness.. I understand the kids probably heard the fighting etc but it’s important to let kids be kids and not involve them in adult problems.
Their issues should have been discussed privately at home or maybe with a therapist. Sad.
Ok, jumping off soap box.
I still love the Dubrows.
Not loving the new girl.
Sort of over Tamra (Hey, I spelled it right this time!)
Sick or not, Brooks still creeps me out. I don’t trust a man who speaks fluent Hallmark.
Shannon and David should have not come back this year. That was painful to watch and one day, their girls will see see it online somewhere too. I know that she said the girls know about the affair, but to blast it out on a reality show seems unfair to their young daughters. Sad to see that they jumped onto the Whore Out Our Marriage Bandwagon…I thought they were a little better than that.
What’s there to love about Heather and her Husband?
Nothing. It’s disgusting. They don’t seem to love each other they are each a vehicle for the other to like the House of Versailles people.
Sometimes people don’t know when enough is enough.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I can’t articulate why I like them. Maybe BECAUSE they are so blatantly artificial and materialistic. I mean, they earned their money by being on TV both as a couple and individually, plus whatever Terry bring in from plastic surgery. they’re being very ostentatious with the spending, but I’d rather see that than faux humble.
well you are a dick.
And I don’t want to see rich people being such assholes. I can see my rich friends in this situation just showing their home and not being all $25,000 SUNGLASSES!!!! About it.
They are HORRENDOUSLY egotistical and braggy about it TO THEIR CHILDREN. Those kids are the future Brandon Hiltons of the world.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I agree, TT. But, inexplicably I like them. Maybe it’s chemical. Don’t know. Can’t explain.
Maybe because they are juxtaposed against other HW that I find really loathsome (Tamara, Gretchen, the Jesus woman who’s name I’m blocking) . Or maybe it’s my dickishness. 🙂
I’ve always liked them too. Not sure why. Maybe it’s because Heather seems smart and is the anti-Vicki (I can’t stand Vicki’s constant shouting and insistence on partying). But that whole new Dubrow house thing last night was too much for me. It’s a monstrosity and their neighbors are 20 feet away. No one needs 14 bathrooms. It’s all too over the top. Just build it, enjoy it, but don’t flaunt it.
They are 2 insane peas in a pod. They proved that insanity when they put leeches on their bodies then smeared their blood all over their faces to “look younger”.
@O.O~I think one of the things that I like about Heather and Terry is that they approach this for what it is…..a role on a show. Heather understands that there are good guys and bad guys on shows and is okay with that. 🙂
To each his own….there are far worse people on tv.
Dying that I missed taping this but love reading the comments to get up to speed. Will figure out when they will show it again. Re dubrows-cannot stand them, never have. I don’t mind the money but how showy it is -totally annoying. Got a lot of catch up on here. Thanks for recaps! Xo
“I don’t trust a man who speaks fluent Hallmark.” LOL!!!
I thought Brooks looked the same,just a bit thinner. The new housewife seems like an awful person. She allready annoyed me with her list of rules she broke. Being married to her seems like perfect punishment for the husband who dumped his wife for this! I have a theory about women who marry much older. They do it to get to brag about how young and hot they are, and to go preening around to shore up a low self esteem or an out of control ego. They all say the stupid shit that chick did. I knew Shannon’s husband was going to cheat. Bet he’s done it numerous times. This marriage is too much about sticking it out for the kids rather than a love match. Marriages can survive affairs if they get down to the real stuff, and theres some love left.
Oh dear. The girls know about the affair?? Shouldn’t they be sheltered from stuff like that???
@Twilly~ Yeah, she quickly mentioned it on the show last night. They are so young to be in the loop of such an adult issue….imho.
I still think Shannon is trying to embarrass her husband. It’s like that internet meme where people put up cute pictures of their dogs and cats with a sign that says what transgression they’ve committed. You know, like an adorable pug dog with a sign that says “I ate mommy’s sugar free candy and then pooped all over the house.” That’s what Shannon is doing. I think it’s cruel.
Minky – agree with you totally about the Beadors. Shannon DOES seem to be parading her family trauma in the bid to be this season’s “Misery Queen”
Minky, I agree w/ you… Punishing him.
Bingo!! That was a great analogy!
Yes it is depressing now. And 14 bathrooms? Why? Ostentatious over load? I mean, who wants to witness that?
Who wants to clean 14 bathrooms?
Well, we know that Heather won’t be cleaning them.
Heathers team of housekeepers!
yeah, I’m mustering up the strength to clean one bathroom as we speak . . .
A rich man may have 14 bathrooms, but like a poor man he can only use one at a time.
Haha, love it!
I’m sure Melissa Gorga is jealous. If she had 14 bathrooms, she’s be able to shit in her own house instead of driving down to the gas station.
We need Dorinda on this Heather needs to “whisper”
Honestly…David does not look like a willing participant in this process. He’s probably just doing it out of obligation because he screwed up. He looks miserable and she looks neurotic. Not a good look for tv. I was scratching my head too regarding that yeast/vinegar comment. Didn’t see the connection. A husband who is kind and loving will not talk to their wives in the tone that the new girl’s husband spoke in….wow. I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. I like Terry without Heather around ie “Botched”. She is just too much for me. Always liked Vickie. She is the true OG. Let’s see how the season goes.
Vinegar is made from a yeast starter. I, too, like the Dubrows. But I think I give Heather a pass (like Carole in NYC) because she actually uses correct grammar.
Heather thinks she is smart because she is smarter than Tamra. That is a VERY low bar. Tonight she and Terry tried to use words that some architect sold them to sell them a covered walkway to the door as if that was some grand feature.
Mark my words. They will be in bankruptcy just like ShebyBroke will. I would bank they will never live in that house. It’s ridiculous. It’s overreaching just like House of Versailles.
And so very unnecessary. Why would anyone teach their kids that excess is best?
I am not a liberal. I am fine with rich people doing rich people things. If you make a shit ton of money go for it! Enjoy life!
But who needs 30K square feet and 14 bathrooms? How about five or six bathroom and a vacation home in France and another in Montreal? Or Uruaguay? or New Zealand ? or something.
Dear lord. Have some experiences and not THINGS. or bathrooms.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I read before about Candida and vinegar or aged cheeses were on the no no list. I thought of doing the diet to see if i felt better ,but it was too restrictive for me to stick to it. Id like to see how Heather would like it if her friends became buddies with Terry ‘s new spouse. Heather is shallow and self centered to the extreme. What a caring friend.
The whole “# of bathrooms in a house” thing started a conversation with El Partner and I last night, who are very comfortable in our two bedroom one and a half bath apartment (the other bedroom is for storage and/or guests). We both agreed that we don’t NEED or WANT any more space. I mean, I LIKE being able to shout obnoxious commentary to him from the bedroom while he’s in the kitchen.
Plus, due to health issues, its a good idea for us to be within shouting distance of each other 🙂
No, I caught an error in her use of :I: instead of “me.” Not that my grammar is so great, but some things jump out at me.
Shannon’s probably got a touch of OCD. Or whatever illness makes people try to be perfect all of the time. Food phobias? IMO that’s a symptom. Cleansing for yeast? It’s highly unlikely that she’s really got an issue with yeast. That’s just the latest trend for masking eating disorders.
it’s not an eating disorder it’s an alkaline, non alkaline thing. But it is sort of ridic.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Vinegar comes from alcohol which needed yeast in order to ferment.
It’s a control issue. when your childhood is out of your control (and worse when it’s mom AND dad) then during adulthood you try to best control circumstances as much as possible which equates misery for others involved. if you don’t turn to the drink or drugs, then it’s other methods such as food, etc. it can be cra cra making.
Guess throphy wives are just that. No great love, just young and pretty and looks good on his arm. This marriage looks like a bad mid life crisis.
I agree about David he looks miserable, is there any man on there looking happy. Maybe Brooks if he wasn’t ill.
Why the fuck does ANYONE need 14 bathrooms????
Like the pug in my example above: To keep from pooping all over the house! Ha ha!!!!!!! :0)
I was just going to say that maybe Heather has incontinence issues!
I still like Heather, but I am very strongly anti-consumerist, so I think the home just demonstrates how insecure and brainwashed they are by advertising and the false need for excess. It’s sad really. I truly believe people would find much greater happiness by having limits and using their resources to enact change in the surrounding communities.
Pot smoking balcony *cough* haha!! When terry says things like that, I start to like the guy again, but then in the next sentence, I’m reminded why I can’t stand him or his shallow, pretentious wife. Vicki looks fabulous! And doesn’t look over-botoxed or over-filled like the majority of the HW’s. Tamra’s a cunt. That’s all.
terry is very funny, in a dry humor sort of way. the house. these people
have a lot of kids to raise, send to college, etc. that money should be
put away for them. or a rainy day. maybe heather never had a rainy
day. but it is beyond. really rich people do not need to be on a reality
show. just being a really good parent is top priority.
The Dubrow’s house is over the top, but no one says about Kyle, LVP, Camille or Yolanda that rich people don’t need to be on reality tv. The criticism is more about liking or not liking the person, not the spending of money. I’m sure Terry makes a boatload of money. He’s a highly regarded plastic surgeon, which is essentially an all-cash business. No super low negotiated insurance rates…you want the procedure, you pay.
Because it’s not just the stupidity of the size of the house it’s the constant bragging and listing the price of everything.
The houses on RHOBH don’t have price tags on everything we see. We are not informed that Mohammed’s giant house has 72 bedrooms and 98 bathrooms or whatever.
Mohammed and Yolanda are both actually trying to SELL their houses on the show, and we still don’t get such a detailed discussion of the cost of every sink and doorknob. And the fact that she was explaining all of this to her children was unnerving.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I could be wrong- but Terrys brother was some sort of famous early 80s rock star, he died of an overdose, dont think there were any kids. so maybe terry was the sole benficiary of that estate- if thats the case royalty checks never run out (mom always said, all you need is one good song and you and all your generations can live quite happily until the end of time, especially if u own the publishing and songwriting rights to your song), maybe thats why they are not too concerened with running out of money.
@Forbes List – Here’s an interesting tidbit I just found. Kevin Dubrow had a manager named Kim Richards!
Heather NEEDS to be on television, reality or otherwise. She is an inferior actress built for one season sitcoms. She is a bad actress who gets to emote her heart out on RHOC and that is her purpose. She also needs to show everyone how much better she is than everyone else.. She is a despicable person in my opinion who was raised to be a Jewish American Princess. I grew up with people like her and they were NEVER likable. They eventually grow bitter because once they’ve achieved their goals (of being perfect, pampered and very rich) there is nothing left but a daily rationing of Xanax. Eventually they have to look in the mirror and see that there is nothing staring back but a hollow shell.
I give Terry and Heather some slack (not much, just some) with all of the quoting of the 14 bathrooms and the $7,000 sinks. That’s what this show started as! Here’s the real-life, ostentatious lifestyles of people who actually live in Orange County, California. #AvaricebyBravo
The first three seasons or so, before the recession hit, they’d throw up the cost/value of jewelry, cars, etc., that these folks were buying.
Is this different because the Dubrows are (repeatedly) calling it out? I can see that point.
Just throwing this out, but should a plastic surgeon be talking about smoking pot?
Why not? Plastic surgeons are people too.
So my thoughts from watching….
1. I have always vaguely disliked Heather. Looks like this will be the season that I thoroughly dislike her.
2. Shannon and David might be uncomfortable, but at least it feels like you are actually watching ‘real’ity with them.
3. Already can’t stand Meghan, but clearly the producers can’t either. When you can ‘t get through the first episode without the producers making you look like an ass by interspersing your thoughts on how wonderful your husband is with a reality check then you are going to have a rough season.
Whole heartedly agree about Meghan, chick you’re the third wife, either the first two realized what a tool he was or he can’t commit longterm.
He was still married when he got engaged to #3, so he was probably the one who filed for divorce.
David having an affair makes me very sad. I’m rooting for them. I hate Heather and Tamra but Meghan is such a non-factor that I can’t summon the energy to hate her yet. But whoa, wasn’t aware that she was the one lying about someone else’s cancer. Not cool.
I am unclear as to when he had the affair. I missed that somehow. was it after last season ended
If this whole season is going to about out-waaaaaaaaaaaaaahing each other in order to be the most sympathetic, I’m out.
Why are you all complaining about TV being too real? If Shannon and David want to share the truths about their family (as opposed to letting rumors and gossip fly) then let them. I appreciate the realness Shannon brings. I can’t stand Meghan .. Her arms and body shape look like Caitlin Jenner’s — she’s annoying! And I love how bravo has given her such a bad edit literally playing clips and scenes that contradict everything she says lol’
I agree, beau. I don’t particularly want to watch it, but it does seem real.
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Meghan is so unlikeable that she doesnt even look pretty to me. I have a soft spot for Shannon, I like her sensitivity and strong emotions. I totally relate to that, and her sense of fairness too. I hope her marriage can work out, but it is what it is. Shannon needs to really want it for themselves and not the family. Kids grow up fast and you’ve got to realize that some day it will be just the two of you. Youv’e got to focus on the relationship for itself seperated of the children, or you’ll be left with nothng when the kids move out.
If there were no kids involved, I’d say go for it. Show us the whole thing. But there are kids here and that makes me sad. I think it’s really unfair to those kids to show this on TV. In the best of circumstances, they wouldn’t even know about the affair. Now they have to watch it all play out on TV. Breaks my heart for them.
yes it’s interesting that Shannon seems over protective of her children yet is allowing this to play out in the public. perhaps she’ll homeschool them and keep them in a bubble?
Vicki and Shannon split a salad.
The SPLIT a SALAD.
This is unacceptable.
“DRY SALAD?!!? Who orders dry salad?!?”
Oh Vicki.
I like her hair that length, it’s attractive. But her nose looks SO little, was it that way last season? I only watch every once in awhile, since Tamara’s recaps are always better anyway! <3
At $20 a salad NO IT IS NOT unacceptable. It is wise. They are both smart with money, want half a salad and half an app.
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Just a thought..I hate salad, dry or wet. It’s such a poor excuse for not eating fun food. If I am going out I want to sample what the restaurant has to offer. I can make a boring salad at home. When you are stuck watching every single morsel you have to put into your mouth (I do because of diabetes), eating is not fun anymore. I want to eat like a human who loves food…not a rabbit who eats off of the bushes outside my house.
Meghan will be a one season wonder.
I think so.
Did they mention when the affair was? I’m guessing not, but I’m trying to figure out if it was before last season or afterwards. Sad either way, just curious.
I thought I heard Shannon say she found out in April?
Yep, she said April Fool’s Day.
It was after last season and after she was on the reunion show touting how great her marriage was again.
I am confused about Shannon’s timeline. She has constantly posted pictures of them on vacation and bragged about their happiness since the last reunion. When did all this misery take place?
Just further evidence that the “reality” people create on social media is not their complete reality. Everyone posts the good stuff, but not the bad…makes sense, but creates the false perception that everyone lives a life full of sparkly rainbows and unicorns.
She said she found out in April (which I assume is April a year ago) which was 4 months before filming started? So my guess would be that he was in the middle of the affair when they were filming last season. And if that is true, it makes sense as to how he was reacting to her constantly nagging him and then sending her the email that he was moving out.
Disclaimer: I don’t actually know what their filming dates were for last season. I could be completely wrong! If so, I apologize!
Also, did Shannon say how long the affair lasted?
Last season premiered in the end of April. So she found out about the affair and had to watch the whole season with that knowledge, she knew at the reunion.
First episode in, and I already hate Meghan. I don’t think I’ve ever had such a strong reaction to any other reality person.
Hahaha! I said the same thing above!
I haven’t read anyone’s thoughts about tonight’s episode but I watched the first few minutes and have been struck. Has anyone whoever had a bad past thought about writing a timeline? I haven’t and now I am. I’ve always compartmentalized things but maybe I should compare them time to time? it made me think… how strange for a reality show!
I’m glad you got something out of it. My inner cynic came out, and I couldn’t see much good in the show. The Dubrows pissed me off too much. I like Shannon though, and I hope her marriage can work. If a timeline helps, then all the best to them.
one thing we were taught to do is create a genogram. it’s a family tree but you connect relationships with what happened with them, such as ‘disconnect’ and why. it’s sort of helpful, but especially when you’re trying to figure out what the heck happened in someone’s life. there’s more info about genograms if you google it.
oops I just found out I broke a rule by mentioning a source. I’m so sorry but don’t know how to undo it now.
I am so not clear in my writing, I wish my thoughts were as funny as my mind and my words!
Very sad about David and Shannon. I really like both of them, I hate to say it but I wasn’t totally shocked by the affair revelation. I watched a few episodes from last season recently and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was either having a physical or at least emotional affair when he sent the notorious email to her.I think David really loves Shannon but is miserable which makes the situation even sadder.
Heather and Tamra were so loathsome last season they made Vicki seem almost likable. I’m not sure if Brooks is a creep or not but Vicki seems happy with him. Brianna needs to back the eff off.
Not feeling this new housewife at all. She seems cold. Like she could do or say something super cruel and not care. Maybe I’m being unfair. We’ll just have to see I guess.
Really like Vicki’s hair cut and color, she got it right. It made me so sad to hear her conversation with her mom.
I keep thinking the Dubrow’s have to be smarter than to build such a monstrosity. Like any second they’ll admit they just plan to sell it at a profit to a nouveau riche investor from overseas. Which doesn’t make it better but they just seem so myopically pleased with their horrid excess. I could support a family of 6 on the cost of heating and cooling that place alone.
Re: why we keep watching this crap. I was in line at the deli and two 20-something gals started talking to the 20-something gal behind the counter. “whattya going to do tonight?” they were asking each other. “Reality tv”, they all agreed it was the BEST way to spend their night.
They started listing their shows, one gal brought up the Gypsy Wedding show and another said “All I watch is TLC, all the reality shows, it’s SUCH A CONFIDENCE BOOSTER.” They all agreed, that’s the best reason to watch reality tv, because then you confirm you’re smarter than at least a few people out there.
Gave me such a laugh.
Schadenfreude. The only reason to watch reality TV.
Well that was really depressing. Brooks looks sick and shaky. I hope Vicky doesn’t over do the woohoo and lets him rest some. I understand wanting to get his mind off the cancer, but the poor man is barfing all the time! Way too much Tamra–please make it stop. Will Lynn get any money being for being a friend of house wives? I hope so. God, one of her creepy daughters had a baby. That pacifier made me crazy! I miss Lydia and her pot smoking mama.
I refuse to watch Tamra get baptized. That would the last straw.
loved me some Lydia and her lovely pot smoking mommy too.
Loved them, too. Very Californian.
Lydia actually chose to leave the show. I was impressed with that. The money was not enough to make her stay.
I was on Brianna’s side regarding Brooks, until that reunion where she was shown to be so mistaken about him. The only women I like are Vicki and Shannon. I thought I liked Terry Dubrow. He seems so kind on Botched. I think that house is disgusting. I now wish I had not made fun of Nene’s house.
When was she shown to be mistaken about him? I thought it was proven that he told her husband to beat her to make her fall in line. That and his child support issues are enough to make me dislike him.
I just thought she came off as pathetic in her attempts to make him look bad, and she put her mother in a position of choosing either Brianna or Brooks. I dislike Brianna’s husband, by the way. He was too involved.
Heather’s scenes with over the top spending on finishings for the new mansion and bragging about it are reminiscent of Teresa of NJ years ago. Be careful what you put out there for public consumption. It’s very obnoxious and completely distasteful.
Also very reminiscent of the “Queen of Versailles”. Hope she does not end up like her!
I wonder if they have ever given a decent amount to a charity?
This is known in the reality world as the cheating husband public shaming. Shannon is going to run her hubby through the ringer on tv because he cheated and eventually divorce him. Kendra is doing the same thing now. Although, I’m not surprised David had an affair. It seems to make sense now after looking back on their first season. Something seemed totally awry. I do hope they can work it out but I’m not all that confident.
Poor Brooks, I love seeing him and Vicki. I hate that he is sick but Vicki needs to be needed and he clearly needs her. (Not referring to money )
Heather- I just can’t. Bitch please, what is the point of a house when it’s not a home, no matter the size.
Shannon – she is real, her pain is real and she isn’t going to lie about it. Good for her. Love her!
Tamra – joke
The new girl – when she was talking about her husband in her talking heads, production showed him being exactly opposite. So either she is delusional or production is giving her a bad edit ,maybe both? When new girls go after the OG’s it never ends well . (Except Atlanta, but Nene called for Claudia and she came,kicked Ass and got the Tshirt )
It’s always interesting to see how different my opinion of these women is from others. Don’t mind Heather, can’t stand Shannon, Vicki annoys me with her mother henning (and I still don’t like Brooks…)
Oh, but I totally loathe Tamra, so I guess we’re in sync with that.
Heather’s house is a stupid investment. Nobody needs something that big for a family that size. I really believe if she really does have that kind of money to throw away it could be better served by helping people less fortunate then her or some type of charity. So may people around the world are starving because of disease or starving for lack of opertunity to make the kind of money she does. She and others in the meantime live in excess with 30 pairs of shoes 1/2 of which they never wear and $5000 handbags. It’s also sad for me to see them brag about it like it’s a badge of honor.
Well, at least she’s doing her part to keep the construction workers from being on unemployment!
As much as I agree about starving people I have to disagree about telling people how to spend their money. Just because someone has a lot of money doesn’t mean that they are obligated to give it away. It would be nice if they shared and probably much more noble than having a closet the size of the Empire State building but you can’t tell people that they MUST donate. Charity is something that comes from a desire to help others and Heather and Terry have obviously spent their entire married life trying to help themselves. I remember my Grandfather telling me not to waste my food because people were starving in Europe (this was in the 50’s). I also remember thinking “Why am I personally responsible for those people and their plight?” You give if you want too and not just because you are wealthy. Sadly, no one should be forced or guilted into giving.
I don’t care how they spend their money. If they want a house with 14 bathrooms and a beauty salon, more power to them.
I just find their overt worship of excess to be a shitty quality in them as people. It’s not the excess itself I take issue with. It’s their need to talk about how much everything costs.
Again, almost all the HW on RHOBH have really nice houses. You don’t see Lisa Vanderpump or Yolanda going through their homes pointing out how much the fancy refrigerator costs, or the price of the bathtub in Lisa’s bathroom.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It’s class. Yo and LVP have it and Heather does not. I still don’t mind Heather though. I guess that also maybe a difference between BH area and OC. I’ll let Lisamia, Lawstangel, et al take over that part of the discussion lol.
TT I agree, funny it was this very same thing Heather hounded Alexis about. Are we to be subjected to continuous talk about her monsterous house all season and how much this is and how much that is. I’ll watch HGTV for that not Bravo
@TT, this is true. Only the noveau riche talk about money. All of my extremely wealthy friends never talk about it, and indeed, go to lengths not to– it’s very déclassé.
*none* of my friends
That’s why we have taxes. You can’t count on people to give on their own.
Shannon and David need real therapy period. as in intensive, long term, by a true professional. if that ‘therapist’ had credentials I did not see them. nothing we were taught resembled this ‘session.’ that was not a therapeutic session.
It was the best therapy money can buy…delivered in a suite at the Wydham down the highway! That whole thing was so odd. Why on earth were they sharing their life stories with the other couple? I’d be like…honestly, my life is f’ed up right now, I have no interest in your sob story. Just an opportunity to publicly shame David and all around sad.
the best? I cannot imagine. I need to be on this at least I am trained in the proper way to conduct therapy.
According to Shannon they have had “real therapy” and it obviously didn’t work. If there is no love than there is nothing to build on. NO therapy will help that situation unless you want to live a sham marriage for the children’s sake. That’s never a good idea so they should probably go their separate ways before they damage themselves and the kids even more. Shannon seems ripe for a serious nervous break-down or worse. He looks miserable and sad.
Jesus, susan enough with your “trained master’s level therapist” (whatever that is) crap.
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It struck me while reading this thread (and being labeled a dick, thank you), that this is the one HW franchise currently on wherein all of the ladies are actually married (or in Vicki’s case, may as well be – they are living together), which means no “Single Ready to Mingle” storylines, thank karma.
I know it’s real housewives with husband’s and kids. I like watching that instead of the single girls like rhony.
The Dubrows will get an offer before that home is finished. Last night felt like they were trying to sell the concept. It’s much too large for their family. Also, I wouldn’t be comfortable with my children’s bedrooms opening to second floor balconies. Her son may be old enough, but what about the younger ones visiting his room? It just seams like a spec house.
I couldn’t believe Terry Dubrow made a comment about his son’s pot smoking balcony, great parenting; he’s trying too hard to be cool.
Heather called pot “Hootch”. Isn’t that some kind of hillbilly whiskey? She is such a fake and Terry is such a jerk. Two perfect fakes…what a couple. A 4 year old with a pacifier? Wonderful parenting…NOT. Maybe the kids can smoke in one of the 14 bathrooms. Heather said, “That’s a lot of urine”. I say, “that’s a lot of B.S. (as in shit)”. I really dislike these people. Maybe they are building such a huge house so that they don’t have to run into one another?
Yep, Hootch is cheap booze.
Vicki looks good this season. She managed to not be over plasticized over the years. Brooks seems to be good for her. I never liked how Brianna was such a bitch about who Vicki dated.
The new girl, it must be awful to see your stepdaughter mock you and your husband have no respect for you. Did you see him actually pull back when she went to kiss him? She should check and make sure there isn’t a large insurance policy on her life. (I watch too much ID)
The house, good lord that is bringing back memories of the excess of the Versailles woman. That will bite her in her skinny ass.
I kind of went into coma during those scenes because it was just too ugly the lies and all. but did see her expression after he dissed her kiss. I thought maybe it was out of respect for his daughter? but I don’t know all the story line yet. the editing made her look like a super dum dum. but why was she making $300,000 deals? can she be that dull and accomplish that?
She didn’t say she made “a $300,000 deal, but that she made $300,000 in a year. Sales.
The biggest asset in many of the medical/pharmaceutical sales jobs is to be attractive…the more the better. I’ve seriously seen it firsthand when a knockout gorgeous blond sits down with a potential client. Client gets all tongue tied and is happy to buy whatever is being sold.
She said her average deal was $300,000.
I always thought Brianna had too much power over her mom, but wrote off her worry as a daughter who cares too much. THEN we met Ryan, and his awful attitude toward anyone he felt was “disrespectful”–Brooks, Lydia’s mom. I knew then Brianna had her own issues with abusers and might be projecting onto Vicki. I find Brooks a little slimy, but Ryan makes my stomach flip.
agree. that was so rude when he insulted Judy as she sat on the sofa. I totally lost respect for him and Brianna.
I just realized that Tamra has a son named Ryan, and Vicki has a son-in-law named Ryan. Don’t name your kid Ryan!
I agree, I have been uncomfortable about Brianna’s husband and their courtship since day one. I feel there will be some kind of explosion with him some day, and not something to be blamed on Brooks suggestion.
I totally agree with you about Ryan vs Brooks. Ryan’s behavior with Lydia;s mom was appalling I was sickened by it. You may be right and Brianna is projecting.
I agree, I watched most of the last season when they were running marathons and I had forgotten how bad that was when Ryan flipped out on Lydia’s mom. It was one thing to have the initial confrontation but then he kept going at her telling Vicki not to hug her, kick the f-ing b!tch out of the house, stand by your family. It was insane and it was even worse that he stood by his actions and blamed production/editing afterward instead of apologizing and taking some accountability. I also thought it was scary that Vicki’s brother, Billy I think, went off on Ryan when that happened saying Ryan has to start trouble every time they get together, so that obviously was not an isolated incident.
Thank you!! Brooks is a creeper, but Ryan is an outright dick! I was appalled at the reunion (when they tried to bring up how he spoke to & treated Lydia’s mom, and his outbursts after) when Brianna conjured up the tears and dramatically exclaimed “I’m not going to talk about my husband when he’s off fighting for our country!!” Queue the national anthem!!! Apparently only your husband is allowed to be a mean, drinker asshole. And her blind defense of him at the party was shocking. Girls got a lotta issues.
Heather… Not much redeeming about her the last 2 seasons. Her condescension, lack of humor and pretentiousness make her wholly I likable
I had to laugh at Vicki taking 5lbs of carrots to Mexico so that Brooks could still drink a carrot and ginger juice every day.
Can you even bring fruits and vegetables into another country? I know you can’t coming into the U.S., and I don’t think you can going into Mexico either.
Great recap!! This is my favorite show in the Real Housewives franchise. I can’t stand Heather and have always viewed her as a snob and a woman who lives for material things and lording it over others. Terry is an idiot who seems to go along for the ride (and the fame and money). I also think that Heather is an asset to the show because she is the perfect example of what the show is supposed to be about…..fake glamour and lots of conspicuous consumption. Tamra is a mess and Eddie looks like a troll. I really disliked the new wife and can see where she will bring a lot of drama to the show. Vicki was her perfect OG self and I am glad that people are finally seeing what a bitch Brianna is. A nurse who can tell that someone is faking cancer by looking at them? Really? I used to be a nurse and can absolutely say that people with cancer don’t all look the same. Brianna’s a spoiled brat and VIcki was right to ignore her regarding Brooks. Brooks looks fragile and I noticed his weight loss too. My son has the same type of cancer and is in remission but it’s NOT an easy road and Brooks has been and will go through a lot of misery whether he survives or not. Why was Lynn Curtain on the show? She is a waste of space. I felt terrible for Shannon and I don’t think that her marriage can be saved. David seems like a nice enough guy but there seems to be no love no matter what he tells her. She is fighting a losing battle, imo. I like her and feel badly for her. No one to hate in this mess because both David and Shannon seem like good people…just not good for each other. All in all, the show exceeded my expectations and I enjoyed it. I’ve dumped NY and Atlanta and BH is on my chopping block if Kim and/or Brandi return so the OC remains the first, best and most entertaining RH show. Thanks for a wonderful recap. You really nailed it.
The OC is the first and best. Heather is what this show is about, ostentatious overindulgence and as much as I roll my eyes over the number of bathrooms, it is why I watch this shit show. I want to see people overspend on ginormous houses and live vicariously. I want to see the ridiculous overspending, not the hair pulling and fighting.
I understood how you feel about the Dubrow’s three comments ago. Do you need to keep repeating it??????
I totally agree with almost everything you wrote with one exception: I’m not quite as anti-Brianna (although I’m leaning that way) And great point that even Heather is a giant phony that irritates the eff out of me, she really IS an asset to the show and embodies everything it’s about. lol SMH
One would have to be really starved for attention to allow your husband’s extra marital affair to become your story line on a reality TV show.
So when Tamra was having her baby shower ;because we all know it’s all about her; and Lynn walked in, my dogs started howling. Tamra is Satan
I thought all the Dubrow’s needed was another bedroom for the “surprise” 4th child?. I always thought that was ridiculous, now they’ve topped themselves.
My heart breaks for Shannon. I don’t believe we’ve really met the real her, because when you’re miserable you cant truly be yourself. There’s no way David wasn’t cheating last season, and I think Shannon knew it. So I disagree with the posters who say she was a nag, bitchy, etc. She couldn’t be a happy go lucky wife, knowing she was losing her husband. I bet she hates herself at times.
My heart breaks for her too. She is such a sweet, real woman, and obviously a bit crazy, but you know she is all about her family. Her kids have the best mom ever. I hate that David hurt her.
Is it a surprise child if they did ivf?
Oh I forgot about the “surprise” child. Yet Heather said on this episode that they used IVF and have two left over frozen babies on offer.
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The first three kids were IVF. The youngest was a surprise, naturally conceived.
I find the Dubrows pretty intolerable too, and it has nothing to do with the fact they’re “rich”, it’s the type of rich they are. Overly pretentious, obnoxious, wasteful, and judgmental. There are plenty of extremely wealthy people who are not like them, who enjoy their money and their means without being completely pompous and abrasive.
Their kids are going to be entitled assholes.
Why there is a category for the nouveau riche. The families with real wealth and titles don’t need to be ostentatious. They are annoying in there own way, but not for building ugly mcmansions.
I agree with everything you are saying.
I totally feel for Shannon. I can relate to how she feels. There is a saying I heard once something like, “If you see a nagging wife, there’s sure to be a husband who has dropped the ball not far behind.” He does not love her like she loves him and she is honest about how it makes her feel. It may not be the best solution(I am pretty sure it isn’t), but she is honest and vulnerable and I can never fault a person for that.
Do I remember correctly that a few seasons ago Heather was criticizing Alexis Bellino for flaunting her diamonds, flash cars, and constantly talking about things she had? Didn’t Heather say it was uncouth to discuss one’s extravagance? I simply can’t stand this self-important, shallow woman.
Shannon and David – I believe they are truly struggling in their marriage and it doesn’t seem to be just a story line. In their first season David said he was not happy with the life they were living. He didn’t care for the ostentatious house they have and I actually think that may be true. He seems as if he would be happy with an ordinary middle class life where they traveled more and focused on simple pleasures instead of all Shannon’s eccentricities of crystals and ensuring there were nine lemons in a dish. Shannon just seems lost and sad. This is all very raw. I feel sympathy for both of them.
Poor old Brooks. I wish Brianna would tend to her own family and leave him alone. It is not entertaining to watch her grudge against him because he said some inappropriate things when he was drunk out of his mind. That husband of hers is not the shining example of a chivalrous man so she should put the stones down.
I agree with your entire comment.
You are right about Heather and Alexis. Heather specifically told Alexis she shouldn’t talk about what she had or how much something was. Guess it’s different when Heather does it, I don’t think so. Is this her storyline the whole season, what a wast of film.
I can only imagine the temptation to build the biggest, most fabulous house you can afford, and at least the Dubrows can comfortably pay for their lifestyle unlike other housewives, but by having a house that large they are going to miss out on alot of closeness and family bonding. Heather has brought this up a few times, and instead of focusing on the price of her finishes, she should be worried that her husband is looking forward to having more distance from his family.
Even if I was OPRAH I would not build a house that big. But if for some reason I changed my mind, I would not do it in that neighborhood where I can almost touch my neighbor’s house out the window.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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If I were Oprah rich, I would have lots of little houses all over, so I could travel whenever I wanted. Who needs these obnoxious uber houses that are there to say “I’m rich and stupid?”
I thought they were alone on that highest peak. Yes neighbors that close would definitely be a deal breaker for me.
I’ll have to second belladonna’s comment — smaller houses all over the world if I had Oprah’s money. I would divide those 14 bathrooms into my most favorite countries to visit.
The cost alone to air condition or heat that house, not to mention electricity, good lord. Someone else brought up water, that is huge. How gluttonous to have such a monstrous house in a state that’s completely running out of water. I understand it’s a matter of preference, but I can’t imagine feeling a cavernous house like that is a home. It’d feel like a football arena. How could you even be aware of what your kids are doing spread out over that much space?
Am I the only one who thinks that Shannon’s kids “found out” about their Dad’s infidelities because Shannon screamed it at him one day in front of the kids?
Even so, he has no one to blame for his kids finding out his shameful actions but himself. I’ve been cheated on before in a mere relationship, not a marriage of 15 plus years. I can’t imagine how crushing it is. I’d probably lose my cool and be screaming at his ass, too. I know it’s not the best choice when kids are involved, but neither is cheating on their mother.
Good point Shae, I am sure it was not pretty!
I agree. Shannon doesn’t seem like a fame whore at all. I believe what she said on her Bravo blog, that she put it out there so it might help other people who have been through the same thing. Being open was her whole story line last year in a way. Her opening statement was something about not hiding things, or not having skeletons in her closet she was going to hide.
Shae, I meant to say specifically I agree that there is no one to blame for the kids knowing about it but David.
I had the same thought Ingrid. How awful that they know!
And how awful that their mother chooses to go on reality TV and use it as a story line.
So, 10 seasons of RHOC. I have to confess, I don’t watch this show. I just read TT’s recaps. I did start wondering – what do you suppose the shelf life is of a real housewife? I’m not sure I would be interested in watching a bunch of drunk grandmas acting out for a buck.
My favorite person on RHOC: that deplorable new housewive, Megan’s, stepdaughter. That chick laughed every time Megan tried to engage her Dad, and her Dad blew her off or was mean. Too funny. Megan is insufferable and her husband seems like a dick. I used to love Heather, but the more I see of her and her materialism, the more I dislike her. Even so, I do love to hate her, and I do want to see the gluttonous mansion.
Yep, every single time he was rude to her, the step daughter was snickering in the background. I’ll take a Shannon who cries about her husbands disrespect than a Megan who pretends she doesn’t notice it!
I hope she gets out soon and gives the finger to the middle aged douche and his cuntsatchel daughter.
Saw a post last night that Meghan was on another reality show? Some upscale resell store show — maybe just a local bit? Definitely don’t think she will make it past one season for sure. Very fake.
If the washed up baseball player is this much of a dick when he knows the cameras are on, I can’t imagine how bad he is with them off. A big congrats to his first two wives for being free of that middle aged douche, and my deepest sympathies to poor, stupid Meghan, who seems to have no idea that there’s a shelf life on his wives and wife #4 is just a few years away.
Its very true that Heather is bragging worse than Alexis ever did. What a hypocrite! I never liked Heather as I thought she just aligned herself with Tamra and had no moral compass of her own.I hated the way she all ways stuck her hand in her husbands face and ordered him to “shut it down”.
I just watched a favorite show of mine on TLC – Little People. The couple and their two adopted children live in a wonderful, family friendly house. Family is everything to them. I couldn’t help but contrast their home with that of the Dubrows. I don’t doubt that Terry and Heather love their children, but their home is hardly family friendly, unless they decide to live in a small part of the house and block off all those bathrooms and huge kitchens, etc. I prefer the life that Jennifer and her husband and kids are living.
I really feel for Shannon. She looks so sad and broken. You can tell she is devastated. I get a lump in my throat watching her try to talk about the problems she is having in her marriage. She’s in a lot of emotional pain 🙁 . I hope things work out for her and David – whatever that may be. She says divorce is not an option so I am hoping they can move past this and have a happy healthy marriage. I’m not so sure I would be able to move past an affair and be able to trust my husband if he did that to me.
I’ve been where Shannon is – saying “divorce is not an option”. I also swore I’d never put up with infidelity (especially w/in a marriage). He cheated / I forgave / he cheated again / I divorced the bastard. I learned never say never / what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
(I also “swore” I’d never remarry) 😉
I’ve been thinking a lot about Shannon. I remember feeling like she did, fix the marriage at all cost. Now my big regret is that all the times my husband was a jerk to me, I didn’t take his clothes, wine and computers, throw them out the window, and called a lawyer. Shannon needs a man who, when she says she has to hang up her feng shui (sp?) crystals, will take her in his arms and kiss her for her goofy wonderfulness. Maybe she will wake up in the hotel therapy sessions.
That’s a very sweet sentiment lisamia. I really appreciate her no divorce stance. I think the best shot at having all she wants would be to say, “David, if your unhappy, if you got new life from your affair, get out.” Then without divorcing him see if when faced with truly losing her and his family, maybe he could become the kind of may who would support her Feng Shui crystals and hug her when she says spend time with me, instead of calling her a nag. It’s a long shot, but maybe there is happy middle ground where she neither puts of with his lack of enthusiasm nor get a divorce.
wow, that’s some great advice, the kind Carolyn Hax would give
Hi! GREAT recap, my fav so far. “So much of our lives wasted watching this nonsense, but I can’t look away.” dang!
ugh, Meghan, beyond terrible. I thought maybe it was just me wondering “she’s saying he’s so great, but isn’t he being dismissive on camera?”
So, question/observation I have for the commenters and esp. would love to hear from TT: I notice many of you praise Shannon for being vulnerable, or at least that you see this as a positive trait. Do you mind… explaining why and even what that exactly means, besides being honest about herself? I am curious largely b/c … frankly, lately I’ve been told by multiple people that essentially I would benefit from “allowing myself to be vulnerable” and am super puzzled by this concept. Thanks!
Hopefully those who are telling you “allow yourself to be vulnerable” are just trying to tell you ‘drop some of your defenses’ (be more open) & they’re not wanting to take advantage (as in ‘loan me some cash that more than likely I’ll never repay’). 😉
that’s fantastic!
I Don’t hate Meagan but her husband is an ass. Heather is her goal pretentious self. So they’ve got money but who needs a house that big? Shannon has really done a 180 being so private about her marriage to now letting us glimpse therapy to repair the marriage following Davis affair. I do feel j for her but she did nag him last year. On the fence about Bros moving in with Vicki but brionna needs to let her mom live her life.
Brianna is a spoiled brat!