It’s time for a round of He Said; She Said. And I might as well just point out now that I don’t believe a word of Thomas’ blog OR Kathryn’s. Let’s just get right to it.
Bravotv.com: Was it hard to see Kathryn at the Wounded Warrior Project’s benefit after the way things were left at your election night party?
Thomas Ravenel: Yes! I knew she would summon all her womanly wiles to show up looking stunning, beautiful, and sexy…she knows how to capture the attention of a man. I know myself…I can easily buy into this flirtation and have it over take my willpower, clouding any good judgment a man might have about this situation.
“This situation” is a relationship you pursued with someone less than half your age that resulted in a baby. The time for attempting to muster up some willpower was BEFORE you decided to have unprotected sex with her. That was when good judgment should have come into play. Since that time you made promises to her to provide for her and the baby. Yet you ignored both Kathryn and the baby while you holed up in a Motel 6 with your “campaign manager.”
Bravotv.com: How did you feel after Kathryn gave you the ultimatum of being all in or all out?
TR: The real question is…what didn’t I feel? The entire pros and cons list about this relationship flashed in neon letters in my head, I felt everything under the sun. What’s better for our daughter? To be in a turbulent relationship all the time or having distance with someone?
So Kathryn telling you to either get all the way in with the relationship or get all the way out made you consider what is best for the kid? And you chose….what did you chose again? Because y’all seem to be on again off again to this day. What is best for your daughter is to have two parents who a mature adults who treat each other with respect whether in or out of a relationship. This does not include drunken parties that are made into political ads for a ridiculous election bid.
I can’t erase all these thoughts of what it is like to live with this person day to day. How can that make a marriage?
Well, you probably can’t. That would require you not to be a selfish asshole and to treat Kathryn like your partner and not your play thing. I’d imagine living with you is not a bowl of cherries either.
Bravotv.com: What’s the biggest lesson you learned this season?
TR: Saying NO. I have learned that I want to look good, so I find myself accommodating other people’s wishes to look good, and then I don’t follow my instincts.
Oh I think you follow your instincts, they are just on par with a Neanderthal. It’s better to actually be good, than try to look good.
Bravotv.com: Do you have any regrets about this season?
TR: I regret running for office with the amount of turmoil at home. It was impossible to shape the campaign into what it needed to be. I allowed her to pull my focus because I was trying to do the “right thing” instead of following my gut. I wish I could have handled my anger and resentment towards Kathryn better…hindsight is 20/20.
You prioritized a ridiculous election you knew you had zero chance of winning and undertook strictly for storyline on a reality show above your relationship with Kathryn. She was not allowed to even participant in the ruse. Yet she waited for it to end so that she could give the relationship a fair shot. And you bolted right after the election storyline was over on the last day of filming. Nothing you did was “the right thing.”
And now, on to Kathryn, who makes even less sense.
Bravotv.com: What made you decide to attend the Wounded Warrior Project’s benefit, especially after seeing how rocky things were between you and Thomas after his election night party?
Kathryn Calhoun Dennis: The decision to attend was made that evening. I felt that I needed to support the charity event though I knew it would be painful to see Thomas. I literally got dressed on the way there.
The decision was made weeks in advance and public announcements were made on Facebook and other places listing all the Southern Charm cast as the Celebrity Hosts. Furs were borrowed and brows were waxed days before the event. Sitters were hired. Arrangements were made. Arrival times were determined by production.
Bravotv.com: We saw you really fighting for your relationship with Thomas in the finale, did you envision your conversation with him playing out like it did?
KCD: Our conversation was not planned so there were no expectations. We both spoke our truth and moved forward.
Your conversation could not have been more planned. And then you went back and did some more pickups for the whole, “Thomas wait! Don’t leave me!” fake drama on the boardwalk from the ship.
Bravotv.com: What’s the biggest lesson you learned this season?
KCD: I learned that trust is earned and not something you should give freely.
Well that is a good thing to learn. Next you should learn the one about “fool me once…”
Bravotv.com: Do you have any regrets about this season?
KCD: I have no regrets. I learned so much about my true self and the others, with that I gained wisdom.
I was very wise at 22 myself. Enough the feeling while it lasts.
This is the dumbest show ever.
I thought that the show was interesting and entertaining the first season and absolutely fake and ridiculous the second time around. I liked Thomas during season one and disliked Katherine. Now, I think that both of them are idiots and act approximately the same age (12?). As for the other cast members….do people like this really exist and if so, how do they manage to survive? The problem with Thomas and Katherine is that they have a made for TV relationship but happened to bring a real human being into the mix. The recap was brilliant and accurate and I wind up not liking either Katherine or Thomas but feel sorry for their beautiful.baby girl. She is the true victim of these two morons. Will I watch next season…no, I won’t. There’s nothing to see here folks..just keep on moving.
Ah, to be 22 again. And in Thomas’ case, to behave as such.
This post was everything. Thank you!
Thomas makes promises he doesn’t keep and acts like they never happened. Well the beautiful baby did happen and she deserves a real family. I would think “maybe” Thomas and Katherine would go to counseling and get things together. Yes there is a big difference in their ages but now they have a baby and the age difference needs to just go away and see if they could make a go of it. While I’m saying things need to go away Whitney NEEDS to GO AWAY. What a piece of evil work he is. Thomas has to know Whitney has a crush on him and run like crazy the other way.
I don’t think that these two should stay together for the baby or for any other reason. He is in lust and she is in puberty. They are both too self-involved to establish a real relationship and for the sake of the child they need to grow up and learn to co-parent…separately. As for Whitney, the closet that he resides in is getting crowded and he needs to come out and find someone of the same mindset. Thomas is not that guy.
I haven’t seen season 1 or the finale but I think there’s a very good chance that Katherine will mature but zero chance that Thomas will change. The fact that feels he’s at the mercy of her feminine wiles is archaic and just plain freaky. The fact that so many of them blame his campaign loss on Katherine is bizarre-he’s a convicted felon! She seems an easy scapegoat-Unfortunately, her bad temper doesn’t work in her favor.
I always thought from the beginning of this season that the campaign could not possibly be real, or he doesn’t actually think he can win a political election while on a reality show. So many celebrity whores, so little imagination. It was fun to watch though as ridiculous as Thomas’ election campaign was and Kathryn was also quite the animation. I can picture her so on a soap opera or as a TV actress so vividly. She should think about it. I think she’d be successful. The fact that she takes herself so seriously could be somewhat funny, but that baby has to be the most beautiful child I’ve ever seen. Hope they at least do well by her.
Thomas has a lot of pictures of him and the baby…. I think on Instagram not sure where I saw it. The baby has um, well the baby is … er…still a baby but not as cute as she was…
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hahaha this (TT’s) comment reminds me of that Seinfield episode when their married friends had a baby and they were expected to say how cute it was.
Let’s just say the baby on Thomas’ Instagram he claims is the baby doesn’t look like the baby we saw in TV. … I’m not saying it’s not the same baby, I’m just saying….perhaps she is going through an awkward phase.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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All babies go through a phase where they look either like Winston Churchill or Chairman Mao.
It’s Churchill ATM. 🙂
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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LMAO…..
This led me to Kathryn’s IG – holy shit her pics are GORGEOUS. Even as a blonde she takes stunning pictures.
To quote Cameron oh look, it’s a baby!
“Breath taking”
You’re nuts. That baby is adorable. Every photo I’ve found is gorgeous.
You are correct. Except for one series that I saw.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thanks for posting, TT!!
they suck, though.
It’s hard to back either of them at this point. They both behaved horribly in my opinion.
But as Tamara pointed out, who even knows what’s real and what isn’t.
It’s got to be 90% fake. I ran into a guy the other day who said he knew Landon and that she auditioned along with 200 other people to get on the show. And one of the Charleston papers stated that everyone knew that the Wounded Warriors event was being filmed for the last episode.
Yes, it was a charity event open to the public and was publicized locally for all.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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That makes Patricia’s comment )about Kathryn not being invited) pretty lame. “Open to the public”, not rsvp, but Kathryn “wasn’t invited”?! I’m surprised Pat and Whitney didn’t organize a tarring and feathering for the girl.
I just can’t feel sorry for Katheryn she did what so many young girls are doing nowadays which is having sex with guys to purposely get pregnant thinking this will be an assurance to be taken care of the rest of their life. I hear about it more and more than they are “shocked” when their boyfriend does NOT want to play house. Albeit TR holds responsibility as well but any idiot could see he wasn’t ready to settle down, all Katheryn saw was $$$$$ and “fame”. I hope at least one of these two grow up so that baby is taken care of in a stable environment.
You seem to know quite a bit about Kathryn’s intentions for dating Thomas. Kathryn is from a well-known, affluent family. Ravenel on the other hand has been the black sheep of his family since his drug problems and prison time.
There is no way that anyone would find TR a catch, especially in Charleston were there are well bred wealthy southern men around every corner.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hahaha I don’t know anything about this girl I’m just basing my opinion on what I’ve seen on the show. Also I’m a little jaded because I saw my nephew fall into this trap with a young lady but as with everything I shouldn’t judge everyone by one persons actions. 🙂
Tlcory, when you say you nephew “fell into a trap,” do you mean he tripped and landed with his unprotected penis right into some shameless strumpet’s vagina, and one who had the audacity to be half his age no less, and got her pregnant against his will? Because we ought to be on the fucking lookout for these traps. I have a 15 year old son. I better lock him up.
3Sweeties suddenly gets on my radar with this brilliant comment.
TEN TAMARA TATTLES TOKES NOT YOU, Sweets!
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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3Sweeties you seem to be very witty and I had to laugh , my comment was just a figure of speech, I am smart and old enough to know that the man is just as much responsible., I did not feel the need to post the whole story . I don’t comment much on blogs because I see how easy it is for people to misunderstand the intentions behind it. Chalk this up as one of those times.
I am simultaneously thrilled and terrified to be awarded TT Tokens. Oh, the pressure!
Good grief. Thomas blamed Andy for goading him into running, and blames Kathryn in this interview for him losing the election. He acts 22… maybe they deserve each other.
I was just thinking the same thing on both counts because I remember that interview with Andy. He does blame avoidance better than a lot of the ratchet housewives do.
I resented when Thomas blamed Katheryn, that was ridiculous. His words explained exactly the type of man Thomas is.
Exactly, calipatti. He is not an honorable man.
Yep, Thomas is a deflecting, narcissitic, emotionally irresponsible manipulator. He has all the basic “attributes” displayed by most politicians. Kathryn didn’t have a chance with that jaded politico.
I have mixed feelings about these two. I know Kathryn is young so I try to give her a bit of a break but then she goes all batshit on everyone. I initially wondered what she saw in that old creep TR. However, as ashamed as I am to admit, TR can be quite the charmer and I can see how she could have gotten sucked in especially with all his promises of providing for her and the baby financially and the whole lifestyle, etc. Basically they’re both a hot ass mess but I blame him more because he is quite literally a grown ass man who acted dishonorably and still refuses to accept any accountability for the way things turned out with both the election and his relationship with Kathryn.
Agreed. And I think Thomas is an excellent liar because I think he believes his lies at the time he says them. I had a boyfriend like that. So sincere. It was just that the idealized version of who he thought he was and wanted to be was far removed from who he actually was.
Thomas also has a huge ego. I would not be surprised if he thought he would win.
Thomas is Jax, with money.
lmao!
Xanadude, you have the best posts
Perfect.
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Spot on!!!
I was reading today that they are in Aiken, SC for polo season and she is pregnant. They were dining at the Willcox Inn. Not confirmed but that is what is being said if you look at Jennifer Snowden’s instagram she posted a pic of her and Kathryn from last nigh, Kathryn is wearing a not form fitting top. It could of course be BS but this was locals saying she is pregnant???
Uh oh… You’ve just committed a cardinal violation lol
LOL, I was just thinking the same thing.
I read the rules and figured I was borderline with my comment. It is a local story that I did not think many people would read. I would not be surprised if they are together and pregnant ,
Virginia can you email me the link at [email protected]? 🙂
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Lawd, waiting for the shit to hit the fan on this one
Yeah but I am TIRED and hoping someone else will verify and send the tea. 🙂 Plus I’m not familiar with Virginia and I usually give a settling in and learning the ropes (reading the commenting rules) time for literate newbies. 🙂
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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If its true Whitley must have passed out in the garden clutching his pearls. Now he’ll never be able to leave his mommy’s home.
So hard to believe that this baby is his first child.
You sure are one sided about them. How do you not see what a shit person she is? It’s like Brandi all over again. It’s because she is red headed, isn’t it? You relate to her and excuse HER from having unprotected sex.
She is a spoiled brat who always has gotten her way. But now…she is saddled with this baby and things aren’t always going to be her way.
Say what? Red headed? I do like redheads… but I root for her because her brain is not fully formed. And because Thomas is TWICE HER AGAIN and TWICE ACCOUNTABLE.
Unless she poked holes in his condoms, why do you assume she was trying to trap an old man? He’s fugly and I’d bet his plantation is a family trust he was allowed to live in for filming the show. I doubt Thomas personally has enough money for her to fuck with prior to being knocked up.
What on earth would make you think that Thomas is not the most responsible for this fuckfest?
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Didn’t they have an initial pregnancy scare and THEN after that she got for-real knocked up? So I thought that one was kind of on purpose…
I think Ravenel was supposed to be the adult in this situation. What a loser!
I never said shit about her trapping anyone. I didn’t watch last season but didn’t she have sex with three of them in one week. I don’t know if she MEANT to get pregnant. But she DID try to be a gynormous slut on TV. I’m not against sluts whoslut for their own amusement. But I don’t think that was her case. Cause with a camera on you, you know it’s not for your own amusement.
Did they ever do a paternity test on the kid? How do they know whose she is?
Maybe because Kathryn didn’t really sleep with the other two?
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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She didn’t? Why did I think she did?
Because they said she did on the show. #storyline #notstoryline ?
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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So you have reason to think she did not sleep with Whitney and shep?
A good reason? Probably not. I mean she is a redhead. But the storylines on this show are very contrived. I mean Whitney claims to have a girlfriend on the show.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh and I forgot, Whitney doesn’t sleep with women so I know he didn’t do her. She might have done Shep.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> A good reason? Probably not. I mean she is a redhead. But the storylines > on this show are very contrived. I mean Whitney claims to have a girlfriend > on the show. > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2015/05/29/thomas-and-kathryn-the-love-story-that-never-ends-but-wait-theres-bigger-news/
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> Maybe because Kathryn didn’t really sleep with the other two? > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
Not only did they have a pregnancy scare, Kathryn was bragging in the car to Cameron on the way to shep’s hunting lodge that they don’t use protection and were actively trying to get pregnant. It was ridiculous. Cameron’stalking head was fantastic.
When watching the show I can see both of their sides. He’s a neanderthal asshole who has treated her very poorly and she’s a drama queen who doesn’t do herself any favors.
Kathryn needs to realize that Whitley will always mean more to Thomas then she does. Maybe if Whitley would just admit he loves Thomas and is jealous of the other women in Thomas’ life those two could live happily ever after. Kathryn should have hooked up with Craig who is more age appropriate then Grandpa Thomas.
Who is Whitley?
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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What’s ironic about this is I always see Whitney as whitley from A Different World. Ae character, almost a different gender. Spoiled birch outside looking in, except by the end of the series, she became normal and included. That won’t be happening here.
I don’t think if it wasn’t for the show and the fake election Thomas would have stood up at all for that baby or the relationship. He would have been a total deadbeat dad.
I think Kathryn should go out with Craig. He’s more her age, good looking, and has the potential for a decent future. I don’t know what she sees in Thomas. He’s not too cute and old. That’s just my little ole opinion.
It is extremely hard to miss, and extremely relevant, that every time Thomas is asked why he loves Katharine or what he loves about her, his first and only answer is superficial- “her physicahhhllllllllllllllity, her read hayairrrrr” in his drawl. He has never once said anything about her personality, her character, her being a good mother, etc. How can someone at his age be lacking so horribly in self awareness? You literally think she’s pretty, that’s it, and you went and had a baby with her and now you want to ruminate over the mess you’ve made. Unreal. He is 100% more responsible than Katharine (who I don’t even like), because he should’ve known better times ten. She is young and is supposed to make bad judgments and mistakes, wtf is his excuse?