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You are here: Home / RHONY / Carole Radziwill / Real Housewives of New York Recap: The Cavi-Art of War

Real Housewives of New York Recap: The Cavi-Art of War

May 27, 2015 by tamaratattles 84 Comments

RHONY cast

 

It’s time for the Real Housewives of New York. Unfortunately, my power has been out off and on all day due to bad weather. The power and the cable came back on fairly quickly, but the Internet has been out for several hours. My landline appears to be the issue as it is all part of Charter. Without the phone, there is no Internet. Since I have no cell phone, I have no way to call and be sure there is nothing I can do on my end to fix the problem. Anyhoo. At least I have TV. And good ole Wordpad.

Since hour three with no Google, I’ve probably gone to look up fifty things. I really want to know how things went for Jason Rezaian. I’d like to believe out current administration did someone about the situation. But I have no real hope of that. Meanwhile, I’m in Madagascar with Anthony Bourdain, which would not be a bad place to be, but he brought some pansy liberal, and worst of all as far as Tony is concerned VEGETARIAN , director with him. I think Anthony is enjoying him even less than I am. I wrote that before he called him a “Debbie Downer” on camera. He is the reason mere mortals can’t go on Parts Unknown with Anthony.

It’s time for RHONY and I am officially still without phone or Internet with more storms planned every day for the next ten days except Saturday and Sunday. Tonight’s episode is callled The Cavi-Art of War.

Dorinda

Ramona is sick but going out to lunch with Dorinda anyway. I’m sure Dorinda is thrilled by her spewing germs everywhere. Ramona claims that Mario wants her back. I do not believe this. This is just a little stab at the new fool he is with. The dry cleaner storyline is about to be a thing. UGH.

Upfronts Sonja

Sonja

Back in the delusional world of Sonja, she is having some sort of a deal for her um, fashion line. It’s raining so the step and repeat is inside which means she “had to cancel half the press” because we all know the press swells up to twice their normal size when they enter a building and could not possibly fit if it were raining. Cancelling half the press for a press event is clearly how international businesswomen like Sonja react to some rain.

Now the story is that the event is not for the press but something to do with one small Latin magazine no one has ever heard of. Dominck, Sonja’s gay 24-year-old who is playing the role of her boytoy is on hand. I assume his partner is floating around as well. None of the three have ever met a camera they did not like. Sonja does look pretty on the magazine cover.

So far, Kristen, Dorinda and Ramona have braved the torrential downpours to be supportive of this, um, venture. I’ve never been happier to see Bethenny Frankel IN. My. Life. I am waiting for her to ask all the obvious questions. Like, since when is Ramona a Latina? Where is her product line? What is the point of this entire fiasco?

Bethenny in her talking head says about the whole Latina thing, that she felt like telling her, “I just want to let you know, I am going to be on the cover of equine magazine.” Like me, Bethenny found the photos beautiful. And she was wearing the solitary red sample dress in the photos. Bethenny says, ” This was not a box without a toaster! This box had a toaster!’ Oh Bethenny you disappoint me.

Ramona talks to Bethenny about the whackadoodle sports bar partnership. Ramona says, “Oh yeah! It’s great! The other night I had to bring Mario food….” Wait, (insert record scratching noise here) WHUT?

Thank God for Heather who is pointing out there is no fashion line. Heather asks where they are selling. The foreign (Indian?) dude says they are talking with several retail chains trying to find the best place. And Heather says, “So like K-Mart?” Sonja is offended. Um, having a line in K-Mart is nothing to sneeze at.

RHONY Dorinda

Dorinda’s Birthday Dinner

I dunno what we just transitioned into. It looks like Dorinda the dry cleaner, Luann, Ramona and her new age appropriate date and Heather and her husband are at a birthday dinner for Dorinda. There is a slutty shot girl who is actually serving champagne with several kinds of caviar. Heather digs into to the caviar like Bravo is paying. I hate caviar. Maybe I’ve just never had “the good stuff” but for me, it’s like when I didn’t like pot in high school. I feel like I am on pot all the time, so actually smoking pot just makes me go to sleep or be up and paranoid if in a weird environment. Pot is not my thing. Caviar is not my thing. I don’t try to make y’all like Vienna sausages out of the can, or chicken livers and tell you that you just haven’t had the right kind yet. Caviar people are cult like. Like pot heads. I do know enough to know there is at least a couple hundy in caviar on Heather’s plate.

I also know enough to know we are being set up for John to be perverted again, and I am going to zippity do dah right past that without recapping. Because, it sort of sucks to know so much about reality TV that the storylines are all “foreshadowed” to death before they actually occur. And I’ve already seen this one more times than I care to.

But first, Ramona basically says that Dorinda is her good friend and Heather and Luann are people she has to have a wall up with. So the three female guests fight at the birthday. Luann starts stirring the pot. Luann says that Dorinda called Luann about things that were said between Ramona and Luann about the dry cleaner. So Dorinda apparently called Luann and Luann wants to air it all out during Dorinda’s birthday celebration. Is Ramona’s new man still there or is he giving the dry cleaner a handy in the bathroom? Now they are both back.

Ramona is drunk and obnoxious. Luann (laughingly) gives her “I am going to stick Ramona’s face in the caviar” line. And scene.

Next week: We return to the dreaded Berkshires. Dorinda’s huge house has sort of a 70’s porn theme with lots of purple velet sofas and other weridness. Dorinda gets tipsy and goes in on Kristen for the gross incident with Kristen and one of the other girls at an event with John. Kristen cut it off when it got WAY out of hand and Dorinda is going to yell at Kristen? Wow. Ramona’s new man, that we met tonight has also been with Mario’s mistress? It looks like Bethenny goes to the Berkshires anyway and shows up just for dinner with no idea about the dress code. She gets into it with Heather. Again.

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Filed Under: Carole Radziwill, Countess Luann, Dorinda Medley, News, Ramona Singer, Real Housewives of New York, RHONY, Sonja Morgan Tagged With: Atlantic CIty, Battle of the Brunches, Bethenny, Bethenny Frankel, Carole, Carole Radziwill, cougars, Dorinda Medley, Double Down on Delusion, Heather, Heather Thomson, Kelly Bensimon, Kristen Taekman, Luann, LuAnn de Lesseps, Ramona, Ramona Singer, SkinnyGirl Product Placement, Sonja, Sonja Morgan, The Hamptons

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  1. Cat says

    May 27, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    I don’t like caviar, either. And my internet is a bit wonky today. It’s either very slow, or drops out altogether. Hope things get better for you. That has to be very frustrating.

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    • Minky says

      May 27, 2015 at 3:02 pm

      Yeah, me three. Caviar makes me wretch. I don’t like food snobs/cultists.

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      • Jujue says

        May 27, 2015 at 4:15 pm

        Never tried, as the consistency looks like

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      • Yoko says

        May 29, 2015 at 9:54 am

        I’ve only had caviar once, but that was enough for me to decide I am not a fan. I do like champagne. Good champagne, not that cheap junk served at weddings in the south. But I like mine really really cold and you can keep the fish eggs. I also don’t like dinner parties where the guest get drunk and pick fights with each other. Then start slobering kisses on the guest of honor, but maybe that’s just a personality flaw of mine. I will never understand why these women with million dollar homes in the Hamptons chose to decorate them in 1960’s porn decor. SMDH

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    • unholyspork says

      May 28, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      Everytime I see caviar I think of that line from Antie Mame (rosalind Russell ‘s version)where she tells Patrick it is “fishberry jam” and that is it for me. Caviar is a big nope for me as well. I wonder why Heather is eating so much of it tho. Isn’t caviar supposedly high in sodium?

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  2. tootsie says

    May 27, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    I like champagne and caviar. Not enough to every pay for it myself, but I won’t turn it down if offered.

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  3. fivecatsownme says

    May 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    Do people have to have a talent to destroy dinner parties in order to be a cast member in a Real Housewives’ show? When they audition are they given lots of liquor to see if they can get really obnoxious? Damn it LuAnn; eat the caviar, drink the champagne, and shut up if you can’t say anything nice.
    I have never eaten the expensive caviar, but I sure don’t like the cheap stuff.
    I also don’t get people putting Bethenny down for putting her little girl first.
    Sonia looked very pretty.
    Why is Andy tacking on WWL onto the programs?

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  4. Gingersnap says

    May 27, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    Ramona was talking shit with Luann about John too, behind Dorinda’s back, but she really wanted to keep that a secret. Heehee! It was pretty funny watching her scramble and try to pin the whole deal on Luann, but even Dorinda knew she was being disingenuous and using Luann as her scapegoat. It seems Dorinda does know Ramona pretty well.

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    • Minky says

      May 27, 2015 at 4:43 pm

      Dorinda doesn’t seem like a fool to me. She knows Ramona. And while she realizes that it was not okay for Ramona to gossip about her and John, she also probably realizes that Luanne “exposing” Ramona is a shit-stirrer move that reveals Luanne as a tattle tale.

      Ladies gossip. Period. Men too, for that matter. It’s a fact of life. Gossip is bad when it’s done in a deliberate attempt to hurt someone in a tangible way, like trying to get them fired from their job or to ruin a relationship. IMO.

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      • per achteachr says

        May 28, 2015 at 6:41 pm

        In my little rural town, the older men are the the biggest gossips of all. They meet every morning except for Sunday for coffee and the latest dirt. I would love to be the proverbial “fly on the wall.”

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    • GirlMe says

      May 27, 2015 at 5:57 pm

      To clarify: Ramona and LuAnne chatted about Dorinda’s boyfriend.

      Ramona went and TOLD Dorinda everything LuAnne said but didn’t mention what she had added to the conversation. Then Dorinda cried and Ramona told her to call LuAnne and confront her about those comments. That’s why LuAnne was mad. Ramona shouldn’t carry conversations back to people and then pretend to be innocent. I hate friends who are two faced like that.

      The funny part was when Ramona blamed LuAnne for sharing the very information Ramona reported back to Dorinda. “Don’t share mean things with me”. Or Ramona don’t go sharing private conversations. Ugh! Exhausting.

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      • Jane Tucker says

        May 27, 2015 at 6:39 pm

        Exactly. This was all on Ramona.

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      • Sunday says

        May 27, 2015 at 10:52 pm

        Exactly….that’s what I saw too.

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      • unholyspork says

        May 28, 2015 at 5:27 pm

        Ramona seems to be woring really hard on her “I am the good one” image this year. With the not caring about what mario does, the “Avery hates him on her own” storyline, and her dropping of stuff like the Luann conversation and how MEAN BETHANNY WAS TO MEEEEEE stuff…. well, it appears to me she is trying to cha ge from party girl good ti,e Ramona to a kinder gentler Ramona. On TV at least.

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      • chasesmum says

        May 29, 2015 at 9:17 am

        I though maybe I was the only one who saw it that way- Ramona was the original shit stirrer-IMO.
        My mother told me years ago to avoid criticizing a friend’s spouse or boyfriend-especially if they were separated. They always get back together and you become the bad guy for agreeing the spouse was an ass etc.

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  5. Rozanna says

    May 27, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    I don’t eat caviar either because I am a pansy liberal VEGETARIAN. No animal eggs of any kind.

    Re Sonja, I was having high hopes for her. Perhaps we are all wrong. Maybe she isn’t crazy, just a little eccentric. I hope she has some success with this clothing line because in spite of everything, I find her to be likeable. Dorinda seems to be very sensitive about her relationship with John. I don’t think Luann should have told on Ramona. It just causes trouble and hurt feelings. I also am liking Dorinda. I got a kick out of Bethenny’s interview with Andy. They are thick as thieves.

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    • tootsie says

      May 27, 2015 at 3:46 pm

      Nothing with a face or a mother, right? 🙂

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      • Rozanna says

        May 27, 2015 at 4:15 pm

        Right.

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    • Celtic5 says

      May 27, 2015 at 4:52 pm

      A fish is NOT an animal….just saying. Live long and prosper, veggie

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      • Rozanna says

        May 27, 2015 at 7:50 pm

        Fish are indeed animals. Look it up.

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    • Cat says

      May 27, 2015 at 5:41 pm

      I was a vegetarian for about 3 years. It made me really sick.

      A life is a life is a life. Veggies have life, too. But we don’t think twice about dismembering them and eating them ALIVE. Just sayin’.

      I’m not knocking those who choose to be vegetarians. It’s just not for everyone.

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      • Rozanna says

        May 27, 2015 at 7:32 pm

        I’ve been a vegetarian for 35 years. I’m surrounded by meat eaters, my family and friends all meat eaters although my sister has been thinking about giving up meat.

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    • Sliceo'pie says

      May 29, 2015 at 9:23 am

      I’m sure it sucks when your friends don’t care for your boyfriend-the weird thing about Dorinda is that she doesn’t seem to care for John either….

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  6. Jujue says

    May 27, 2015 at 3:51 pm

    Too bad we couldn’t like heather together like birds of a feather. She gets on my nerves now. Always loved her before, but the “Mama” is grating on me and the shit talking and schooling ALL the time. Gahhh just stfu ms. perfecto!

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    • alexa2626 says

      May 27, 2015 at 6:07 pm

      Ugh “mama” is drivin me crazy! I thought I heard Heather reference herself as mama… I was thinking the same. She has such a high opinion of herself… Always schooling.

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      • Merilyn Zallan Ulrich says

        May 28, 2015 at 10:02 am

        Holla!!! I bet that P. Diddy or whatever his current name is these days is embarrassed. Heather is annoying..they all are. Of all of them I like Dorinda the best because she seems the most down to earth and honest. Bethenny is so neurotic that she gives me anxiety just listening to her. Luann is what she is…a self-endulgent “Countess” living in some world where she is better than everyone else and Ramona and Sonja need help. They deserve each other. “I party with Jon-Jon Kennedy all the time”…….doesn’t everyone party with the deceased? Carol is not as funny or nice as I thought she was last season. The kid she’s dating looks like he could be her son. This show is a loser and I only read the recaps because I stopped watching it when “Married At First Sight” came on.

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    • Pip says

      May 27, 2015 at 6:26 pm

      @Jujue
      Me too! I really liked Heather, despite the “Holla” thing. But this year she is bugging me. Heather is a communicator… She likes to talk things out. I get that. I am the same way. But not everyone else is like that. Clearly Bethenny wants to avoid the drama and stay out of deep, heavy conversations. That’s her right, and I get that, too. Heather needs to stay out of the drama, if it doesn’t affect her. She’s kind of a yenta.

      I don’t know why but I am not enjoying this season at all. I will still watch, read and comment, but for some reason I’m just not feelin’ it. Hopefully something will happen to renew my interest.

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      • Barbara says

        May 28, 2015 at 7:23 pm

        Bethenny is giving her the cold shoulder on purpose. Payback for Heather crapping all over Aviva, who deserved it, i should add. B is the one who got Aviva on the show, they are or were friends at the time. Also i think B will cozy up to Carole on purpose to make Heather nervous. Payback, plain and simple. Nothing to do with asking the wrong question.

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      • Sliceo'pie says

        May 29, 2015 at 11:04 am

        I totally get why Bethenny wouldn’t care to discuss custody issues with Heather-it’s a painful topic but then she turns around and talks to her step-dad about her mother trying to commit suicide in front of her and her step-dad trying to strangle her mom. I think Bethenny is fine spilling her guts out but only when she’s in control of the conversation-even with her shrink. I think she’s in a lot of pain right now and very angry (despite her protestations to the contrary) -it’s not entertaining to watch.
        Re-Heather, I hate that, “Mama” shit. I don’t even like it when people call their kids, “Mama”-my sister in law does that and it just bugs me– call the kid by their name or a nickname. Wow, I woke up very opinionated today…

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    • tilmont says

      May 28, 2015 at 10:49 pm

      For 20 years, I worked and lunched daily with an adult male who called his wife daily (brownie points for that) but when she answered he’d say “hey mama” then end their conversation with “okay mama”. It irked me every time and all us women used to talk about it.

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      • tamaratattles says

        May 29, 2015 at 12:08 am

        ​I don’t have any problem with a married couple with kids calling each other mama and daddy because that is what the kids call them.

        Women calling randon women with children or child-free “mama” is absurd.

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  7. ericzku says

    May 27, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    That job interview with Ramona and her partner that was the interstitial was quite something. “Under office equipment operated, you said stapler.”

    I really hope that was fake and staged, because mocking the girl openly to her face like that is *not* cool.

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    • tamaratattles says

      May 27, 2015 at 6:18 pm

      ​I think it is all staged except the hatred between Luann and Carole and between Heather and Bethenny.

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    • Jane Tucker says

      May 27, 2015 at 6:40 pm

      I thought it was kind of sad too. But then again, I can’t operate a stapler.

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  8. Fynne says

    May 27, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    I’m liking Dorinda. There just seems to be something off about Bethenny. Maybe too aware of her new persona as a mogul. I was always a fan of hers before her talk show. I like the new Luann and Ramona. Thanks TT for your recaps. I love reading them before or after I see the episodes, it gives me perspective and insight.

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    • Minky says

      May 27, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      People with real power don’t twitch, fidget or move nearly as much as Bethenny. The boss of any place usually stays put in his or her chair/throne. Just an observation.

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      • gessiewtf says

        May 27, 2015 at 8:32 pm

        I hope all of that frantic energy does not effect Bethany’s daughter.

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      • spk says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:24 am

        From what I’ve read, that’s the exact opposite of the co-founders / creators of Apple. They weren’t throne-sitters.

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:36 am

        I’m generalizing. A rule of thumb, if you want to know who’s the head mofo in charge in any given place, is look for the person who moves and/or talks the least. That’s not a hard and fast rule, but a good guideline. Kinda like Dorinda’s quote about money talks and wealth whispers.

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      • spk says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:00 am

        Yeah, I don’t want this to come across as a bid to defend Bethenny nor a debate on the subject. But I’ve worked with some of the wealthiest people you’ll ever know on this planet and they all share one characteristic–neurotic. (not the company or people I mentioned before) End scene.

        This went off-topic of the post, sorry

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      • Pip says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:03 am

        @Spk
        Well now you have certainly piqued my interest. I don’t suppose you are willing to give up any names?

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:40 am

        @spk I am so, totally not trying to discount your experience. Please don’t misunderstand me.

        When I say power I mean the appearance of it, and general stuff, not specific individuals. Like Jackie O or Princess Grace or the Queen of England. They always looked relaxed to me and anything but ill at ease. Their movements were measured, slow and deliberate, not jerky or sudden. And they talk smoothly and calmly.

        I’ve never men Steve Jobs. So you’re probably right. Powerful people are just people, after all.

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      • spk says

        May 28, 2015 at 11:36 am

        I got you Minky, the last thing I want to do is ‘defend’ the peculiarities of the 1%. But for many that calm exterior is a front. They’re just wired differently. (And again, only read about Apple, never worked for.)

        Pip – some other time, unassociated to this. =) (Sorry TT, full stop on this tangent!!)

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        • tamaratattles says

          May 28, 2015 at 1:11 pm

          No problem. I’m enjoying the irony of Minky talking about how the smartest people in the room say the least on a site where she posts the most. :)​

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:24 pm

        Ha ha! Yeah, I suppose I am an imbecile. But I don’t “talk” when I post here. I write. And I didn’t say that the boss any given place is necessarily smart. I said powerful.

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      • Cat says

        May 28, 2015 at 4:12 pm

        Minky, you might want to take a peek at commenting rule #10. That was the one I had trouble with, too. I’m getting better, though…I hope.

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  9. Xanadude says

    May 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    Heather was eating the caviar like the caviar company was paying her to. Which, of course, they were. Product placement.
    On caviar: I eat it when it is offered and free to me, but I’d never order it on my own. Pate, on the other hand…
    Any sympathy for Ramona flew out the window after last night’s episode: she’s back to using that condescending know it all voice that just grates on me.
    The magazine that Sonja’s dress is in? Paid advertorial. A quick view of the magazine’s online archives doesn’t show any articles matching Sonja Morgan. Hell, Latino Show Magazine doesn’t even show up in our library’s online magazine resources, so I’m guessing it’s an advertiser driven glossy or an online bloggy magazine that publishes special editions. A quick look at their FB page makes me think this is probably true. Their tag line is “Enjoy the Latin Luxury with (fill in the blank celebrity name here)” Frankly, I’ve invested too much time and energy looking even that up over something that looks to be a version of the PennySaver or Greensheet, or any of the freebie LGBT publications you pick up on your way out of the gay bar.

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    • tamaratattles says

      May 27, 2015 at 6:21 pm

      Don’t get between me and chicken liver or goose liver pate. Seriously, I don’t want to have to hurt you. ​

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      • Xanadude says

        May 27, 2015 at 6:24 pm

        There’s a pub near us that El Partner and I go to about once a month for brunch (because, you know…The Ghey)…seven dollar carafe of mimosas, 8 buck pate plate, and eggs benedict for 7. with tip we spend MAYBE 38 bucks and are dont eat the rest of the day.

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        • tamaratattles says

          May 27, 2015 at 6:59 pm

          ​Sometimes I think I am a gay man trapped in a woman’s body. 🙂

          And we aren’t allow to say The Ghey anymore. Andy Cohen has spoken.

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      • Minky says

        May 27, 2015 at 7:07 pm

        Mmmm, pate… That brunch sounds scrumptious.

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      • Merilyn Zallan Ulrich says

        May 28, 2015 at 10:07 am

        Yes!!! I’m with TT on this one. Pate is amazing, but caviar…..not so much. It looks slimy. But I also hate Sushi and won’t touch it.

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    • fivecatsownme says

      May 27, 2015 at 9:25 pm

      Pate, heaven on toast. In the isolated backwater where I live, there is a deli that serves a pate sandwich on sourdough rye. I am probably the only one that ever orders it.

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:40 am

        I’ve got a thing for liverwurst and onions. A very particular brand too. Oh I love me some charcuterie.

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      • Gabriella says

        May 28, 2015 at 12:23 pm

        I like it on bread with Vegemite!

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  10. Xanadude says

    May 27, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    I’ve decided the Ramona has “resting bitch voice.”

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    • tamaratattles says

      May 27, 2015 at 6:22 pm

      heh.​

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  11. Cheychey says

    May 27, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    Ramona annoys the piss out of me just as Tamara fromRHOC does. I don’t know I just can’t with her and her blurting insults at people. Some of which are truths but should probably be kept to yourself. But that’s how you keep your job on the housewives I guess.

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  12. Urethra Franklin says

    May 27, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    I was half asleep when I watched this, but at first I thought that was Carole on the cover of Latina magazine. That didn’t look like Sonja at all.

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    • Jujue says

      May 27, 2015 at 11:43 pm

      Sonja actually looks more beautiful on the show right? She looked slightly older or something on the cover.. Something seemed different.

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  13. Jane Grey says

    May 27, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    How about Heather saying she wanting to get a tattoo of Angelina Jolie as Malificent on her hip. I loved Bethenny’s response.

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    • Pip says

      May 27, 2015 at 7:31 pm

      Yes! Why would you want that as a tattoo? What a weirdo.

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    • betsybug818 says

      May 27, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      For a brief moment I thought, “Oh, they both found ‘Maleficent’ appealing. Maybe they can find a common bond and some detente through this.”

      And then Heather tells her about wanting the tattoo. I’m surprised Bethenny didn’t give her the “No. Just, no,” right there in Carole’s living room.

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:44 am

        Getting a tattoo is a big deal. Whatever the image is for the tattoo must be something pretty significant for the tattooee. So maybe Heather identifies a lot with the Maleficent character? I didn’t see the movie. Is Maleficent basically a misunderstood villain?

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      • Pip says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:58 am

        I haven’t seen it either and don’t know the story.
        And I am not anti-tattoo. I have a few friends who would probably scare the bejesus out of people… Full sleeves. I have a friend who has a fricking lightening bolt neck tattoo (I still don’t understand what she was thinking). But they were in the punk movement in the 80’s and It was their thing. And they are still very much punk rockers and still getting tattoos. But why would you want Angelina Jolie’s face on your hip? That seems odd to me.

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:34 am

        Yeah. Angelina Jolie? Whatever floats Heather’s boat. But no. Sounds like the kind of tattoo she would end up regretting. Tattoos can be beautiful and gorgeous, but there is such a thing as getting them for the wrong reason. Methinks Heather might be in that latter category.

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  14. betsybug818 says

    May 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    I’ve been trying to figure out all the advance Dorinda love and adoration, because other than a couple astute observations in her talking heads – and the fact that she knows all the pros and cons of Ramona Singer – I didn’t get it.

    Then there was the scene with Bethenny, begging off on Dorinda’s Berkshires trip because she didn’t want to be filming and schlep Bryn and keep her away during Bethenny’s weekend with Bryn. Dorinda was cool about it (at least, in that scene… who knows if it will come back?)

    Maybe the ladies feel Dorinda is so cool and wonderful because she doesn’t consistently go from zero to sh*t-stirrer in 7 seconds flat like some of the other seasoned ladies. Could that be it?

    That said, if she’s screaming on Kristen about John next week, I’ll be back to don’t get it. Especially since I DID love Dorinda’s comment, “Even I don’t spend this much time thinking about John,” during her talking head last night.

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    • Jujue says

      May 27, 2015 at 11:36 pm

      Someone here mentioned before that Dorinda is an observer of people and behavior. She sort of sits back and listens, doesn’t have to be the center of attention, and just enjoys being at the table. I personally like that quality and find it lovely and rare among hw’s.

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:47 am

        Yes Jujue. I like that about Dorinda too. So far. However, I wouldn’t wanna fight with her either. She’s like a ninja. Ha ha!

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  15. Rose says

    May 27, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    I’m curious when Bethany and Heather are going to have it out…this slow simmer is soon going to boil. I like caviar at social functions but would never buy it for myself.

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  16. KatherineNola says

    May 27, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    I have never liked caviar. I really enjoyed Luann last season but this season she seems to me to be the old Luann and I’m back to disliking her. Way to stir the pot at Dorinda’s birthday dinner. Absolutely no reason to go there re the convo with Ramona–other then create more drama.

    I still think Sonja is delusional. If she just focused on 1 thing maybe she would find some success. Finally, everyone (except Dorinda so far) giving Bethany crap for not showing up when she has her daughter is shitty. They all know from press what she has gone through regarding custody and still going through with her divorce.

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    • tamaratattles says

      May 27, 2015 at 11:18 pm

      I want to like caviar. I do. I admit I’ve only tried it a couple times. I also want to like canned herring and canned sardines and canned anchovies. I keep on buying those. I like them in THEORY. I cook with the anchovies and like them on pizza but not straight from the can. I just can’t like sardines and for some reason I cannot accept that. I keep trying to like them and Banjo gets an interesting addition to his feed bowl. Herring is edible but not delicious. ​

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      • spk says

        May 28, 2015 at 2:30 am

        I’m trying to learn to like Sardines too and I “practiced” on a tin from Trader Joes. It comes with Harrisa sauce and wasn’t so bad. It was like firm-ish albacore with a few little bits of soft bone. Which is super healthy and full of calcium / fats. Or at least thats what I tell myself.

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        • tamaratattles says

          May 28, 2015 at 1:03 pm

          Thank you, spk. I am glad to know someone else does this. 🙂 It doesn’t mean we are not crazy it just means that there is more than one of us. ​

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      • Minky says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:15 am

        Okay, I come from a long line of anchovy and sardine eaters. I’ve never tried Trader Joe’s brand. If you haven’t already, go for the Crown Prince sardines. They’re Moroccan and some varieties use real olive oil. Divine! And I don’t believe anchovies should even be eaten au natural. As far as I’m concerned they’re more of a seasoning precisely for things like pizza and pasta. That’s what salted fish was originally intended to do. In many cases salted sardines and anchovies were added to boiled potatoes and eaten with a crisp green salad simply for the flavor and to make the potatoes less boring. This is/was peasant food. Now it’s haute cuisine. BTW: You’re right spk. The sardines packed in sauce are awful. An abomination.

        If you feel that you want to acquire a taste for bare ass anchovies try making a “salad”. Open your tin of anchovies (or sardines for that matter). Plop them out onto a dinner plate with the oil. DO NOT discard the oil! Add some very thinly sliced red onions and red wine vinegar to your taste, maybe lemon juice too, and, if needed, some additional olive oil. The good stuff! Don’t skimp! Possibly pepper, but absolutely no salt, for obvious reasons. If you’re feeling frisky, and you like the flavor, perhaps some capers and olives that haven’t been de-pitted. THEN, get you a fresh loaf of wonderful, crusty, french baguette, or any good, bakery quality white bread, some red wine (beaujolais), and get to eatin’! The bread is for dippin’. Try this and let me know, the both of you. Enjoy!

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      • Barbara says

        May 28, 2015 at 12:21 pm

        Tamara, I’ve never tried sardines, but i saw a show about a shop in france that is only canned sardines. Like a 1000 different kinds. I’m guessing we don’t get the best ones here in the states. So if you’re ever in Paris….

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      • Cat says

        May 28, 2015 at 1:14 pm

        I hated mushrooms, and “taught” myself to like them by eating them over and over. Then, I found out I was allergic to them. Ironic, huh?

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      • per achteachr says

        May 28, 2015 at 7:53 pm

        I cringe at the thought of anchovies yet every meat I cook, except chicken, I cover with Worcestershire Sauce made from… anchovies.

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  17. Wonky Tonk says

    May 28, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Is it me or do Sonja’s apparel line people seem sketchy sketchy sketchy to anyone else? Love liverwurst paired with a strong cheese on crusty bread or toast. Love anchovies, but admit they’re an acquired taste, most of my friends can’t stand them. They make this small bottle, I forget the name of the brand, but it’s a small bottle with anchovies in olive oil, delish! Cooking with the oil makes everything better. Though I’ve had them on pizza it never occurred to me to pair them with tomato seems like they would be a perfect match. I was a Jarhead for 14 years and when we went to the field we practically lived on tinned fish. Sardines in oil, mustard, tomato, kippers and crackers baby! Ya herring me? In a lot of Latin grocery stores you can pick up large cans of sardines in tomato sauce that with a bit of seasoning are awesome over steamed rice.

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    • Mari Anne says

      May 29, 2015 at 10:36 am

      I’m surprised no one else has commented on your very clever: “Ya herring me?” Good one!

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  18. jelley says

    May 28, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    I can’t with Bethenney’ therapist scenes. She has such a victim whiney demeanor that she pretty much lost credibility. I’m sure her childhood wasn’t perfect by any stretch (since ya know, everyone else has picture perfect lives and childhoods), but I just wonder how much she’s dramatizing. Maybe I’m just being callous. I just don’t know. For someone who has experienced trauma, she has absolutely NO empathy. She’s incredibly narcissistic, in my opinion.

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    • tamaratattles says

      May 28, 2015 at 5:32 pm

      You don’t seem very empathetic either…​

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  19. Xanadude says

    May 28, 2015 at 5:56 pm

    On the Kmart comment: I didn’t take it as a dig, either – I mean, Martha Stewart has her brand exclusively at Kmart – I thought it was pretty smart, actually, since Sonja is trying to market her brand as affordable luxury.

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    • tamaratattles says

      May 28, 2015 at 6:04 pm

      Her dresses are like $500 and up, and look…cheaply made. ​

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