Well it’s been an interesting season on Southern Charm. Maybe now that the season is over, Patricia can come on down and sue me for calling her a Yankee. The lawyers all look very dapper in their baby blue seersucker this time of year. Let’s see what sort of shenanigans these folks can get up to for the finale. Shahs has set a very low bar, so I’d be ever so grateful for the mildest bit of entertainment.
I had totally forgotten that Cameran got so wasted at the campaign headquarters party the night before. Then again so was EVERYONE else.
Interior designer Mario Buatta is at Patricia’s pretending like he is deciding where to hang decorative plates. The plates have been in the same spot for eons as noted by the fact that the hooks are already in the wall where they belong. Patricia says her interior design style includes discreet collections of things as the camera pans to a hideous display of ceramic dog figures.
Whitney walks in an Buatta makes fun of his pants. He says they look like a cheap hotel. No ballroom. /groan. Patricia doesn’t get it. She says,” knowing Whitney those pants aren’t cheap!” No, that’s was in fashion in WeHo where Whitney lives. One of my spies had the misfortune of being in the locker room with Whitney at the gym in WeHo recently. I know I have spies everywhere but that is one place I can do without them. Ew.
Patricia begins to explain to us how Kathryn lost the election for Thomas. Because Patricia is a Yankee moron who is reading a script that Whitney wrote. #ShallowGenePools All this Norman Bates Pair ever talks about is Kathryn. Oh! And how rich they are. #amused
JD And Thomas Are Gross
JD and Thomas have a seat under the moon which JD has described as just a nipple hair under a full moon. For some reason production has decided to move the rocking chairs from the porch out into the yard under a large tree. Perhaps we will find out why that is fool hardy in this season. But, I am not getting my hopes up. Thomas is pretending to be upset he lost the election. He had no chance in hell of winning that election and everyone knows it. They talk about, Kathryn. Thomas quotes Steel Magnolias. I really hate when yankees write the scripts for southern shows.
I am trying to figure out how Landon has gone from living on a boat because she is poor to renting a historic property that is spectacular for her new Antique show. It’s all very fabulous but doesn’t quite fit the script we’ve been working with all season. The move in one crate and a bicycle and a chest and then talk about Kathryn. Landon acts like she didn’t promote the fight with Kathryn. She poked the drunken bear and did not like what happened.
Patricia Entertains Two Gay Guys With Whitney Nowhere In Sight
Patricia has a couple of her gay yankee friends from New York over for drinks by the pool. He immediately name drops that he attended a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. Has Hillary really been fundraising for that long? My yankee friend in New York was seated next to Hillary and Bill at some fancy pants Opera in New York City not too long ago. There was a full sit down dinner at intermission. He was not at a fund raiser though, he just happens to run in similar circles with such people. He didn’t seem to know much about Patti, when I inquired. How did Whitney manage to miss this scene? They are going to put together a winter wonderland for wounded warriors. So immediately Patti traces her lineage, implying she is a member of DAR, I should check on that.
Kathryn goes to take cooking lessons to please Thomas. You know, Thomas who dumped her on Facebook last episode. I suppose this advertisement for this lady’s business had to included. They spend a few moments in wonder and bewilderment at the site of a parsnip. Oh so she did just say he dumped her on Facebook. Frankenbite? Who knows. The cooking teacher doesn’t know the difference between a roasting pan and a baking sheet.
Cameran and Landon Wrap Their Storylines
Cameran appears to be going through with adopting the three legged dog. She discusses her lack of birthing hips and her lack of desire to be pregnant. Her husband, Jason is ready. She’s not.
Okay, so Landon’s shop is a pop up shop for the weekend. I need to do that. I have more than enough antiques to sell. The house she is using is for sale, so I guess it could also draw a home buyer. The staircase is beyond …everything. I am sure I missed the name of the house. Landon’s mom feels that Landon’s plans are always of the pop up variety and she wants her to get a long range plan. Her mother didn’t want her to get a divorce. Landon feels judged and has a breakdown. They hug it out.
The Two Gay Guys Cover Is Blown
The gay New Yorkers seemed to actually have nothing to do with the wounded warrior event. We met the party planner who was neither of them. Whitney got together some of his “rock star” friends. Shep and Craig are being auctioned off as dates for charity. The event is at Patriots Point on the USS Yorktown. It’s a museum sort of thing. It’s in Mount Pleasant where I spent some of my favorite times. Not on the ship. More on the beach, and the couch, and the bed and well, moving on…
Thomas is there still schmoozing the ladies like he is still running for office. Shep and Craig are swooning over one of the country singers. Craig goes up for auction and the country singer wins the bid for $5,001. Shep is furious. Cameran was the only bid for Shep at $1,750. That was SO scripted. Craig in the red pants from 2010 is in no way cuter than Shep. Though Shep did look like Daniel Boone that night.
This show is an hour and fifteen minutes. WTF is wrong with Bravo?
Shep Is Furious That Craig’s Bid For A Date Was Higher Than His
Kathryn arrives late. She is hope to win Thomas back. She smiles and waves at Thomas in her fur coat. Thomas is already being sucked back in. But then he goes about taking photos with other ladies. Patricia, bastion southern etiquette that she is, bless her heart, says that she would never just show up uninvited at a function, because it is childish. Well Patricia, she is over five decades younger than you, and it is a charity event to raise money for veterans that was open to the public, so I would think her money spends just as well as anyone else’s. Thomas is very turned on by Kathryn’s outfit. While the fur is lovely the dress crosses over into matronly, it’s a line Kathryn rides too closely when trying to play grown up woman married to a politician.
Shep and Craig have a fake fight over the auction. Neither are good actors. Meanwhile, Whitney is railing on Thomas about Kathryn. He is terrified his boyfriend is going to go back to her. This is like the opposite of when girls convince their gay best friend to dump their lover. It makes my brain hurt.
Thomas Breaks Up With Kathryn
Thomas and Kathryn talk. Kathryn says she has been the only one trying in the relationship. Whitney and Jennifer are lurking about watching the conversation. Thomas suddenly decides he just wants to be friends. In one of the most overly dramatic clearly scripted scenes, Kathryn chases Thomas down the walkway to the parking lot. So fake.
Two weeks later, Craig packs up to go home to mommy. Whatever else happened, my DVR cut off. Because an hour an 15 minutes was all it could take.
Next Monday is the reunion and Thomas and Kathryn go at it.
It stopped cold with Craig moving home. Was very abrupt. Just went to the logo and credits. Most incomplete finale ever
This is right up there with the worst finale ever. What a farce for all the play leading up to Kathryn chasing after Thomas. Most of it was wasted on Landon and her new business. I don’t like her anyway, but to waste so much time with that at a finale was like jerking us all around. Not the least bit happy with the ending. Hope the reunion gets better or this is just another ‘used to watch Bravo show’. I am pissed!
It was so incomplete and silly and I stopped watching before the ending…was there even an ending? I still have a minor crush on Thomas but it’s fading fast. Charm will only take a person so far.
your dvr had it right, that is where it stopped. you could just feel whitney watching thomas watch katherine. it was kind of dirty, like sleazy and intrusive. like we were peeping into whitneys dirty thomas thoughts… gross. patricia has to talk about katherine, she is obsessed with her for several reasons, one being that she slept with whitney once and didn’t want an encore and wanted thomas instead. and she has old southern name power. it is sad to see a woman of her age be so jealous of a woman younger than her child. ick. i feel badly for landon in that her mother wanted to to stay unhappily married, my mother in law had the same experience with her mother. except my father in law was a drunk abusive asshole. i do love how landon giggles whenever she talks, that makes me giggle also. cameron drunk made me laugh so hard, like when the friend who never loses their shit finally does and it is epic. shep was a downer tonight, don’t love the downer shep at all.
Kathryn slept with Whitney?
no. That was Whitney’s way of trying to look straight.
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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yeah, him and shep.
Total attempt to make Whitney look straight and persued. I’m not even sure I believe she slept with shep Now. Whitney tries so hard to not be a background character and for the dang producer still ends up a background based on how skeevy and uninteresting he is
you didn’t miss anything – it ended with Craig driving off home. No little blurbs for any of the others. I don’t know what to think about Craig. He comes off way too stupid to have got through law school, but maybe I am giving law school too much credit. The nasally quality of his voice intensifies when he whines, which is often … “I just graduated from law school”, “I’m only 26”, “Stop lecturing me”, etc … gawd, what a baby. I wonder if his ex-boss fired him because he didn’t often come in to the office, or if it was really because his work was bad/incomplete; if he was working as a paralegal, that sort of work can easily be done remotely.
Some paralegal work, like document review or legal research, can be done out of the office. Most attorneys prefer to have paralegals on hand to delegate work to as needed and to supervise. I wouldn’t trust a newbie like Craig to work from home.
I am a Paralegal and I agree with hawkmoon947. You need the resources that an office provides. I tried to work from home and it was ridiculous.
p.s. re: the fund raiser, Craig says – Kathryn and I look at each and think what could have been … she messed it up, we could have been something special – WTF is he talking about? Did she shag all of these guys?
She slept with Thomas, Whitney and Shep– the Shep thing happened when Craig was trying to “date” her.
Whitney makes my skin crawl. He was panicking that Thomas would get back with Katherine. Ewww. I was disappointed in Shep tonight. Put on a nice shirt and fix your hair. He didn’t give the naughty little boy smile enough during the auction.
Thomas and Kathryn are like oil and water, they will never mix. He wants to fuck her and she wants a ring. He doesn’t want all the drama and she wants a ring. She wants him to understand all that she has sacrificed in her early 20’s and he’s looking at her like she is an alien life form. He’s been in jail, embarrassed and humiliated himself, and still manages to crawl out the hole he made for himself, and does it again. I’m glad at this point he is mature enough to question his own judgment. I don’t think they are soul mates and should some how cut their losses and move on.
@Gingersnap
That’s what I have been saying all along.
There is such a mutual distrust between them. And they don’t even seem to like one another or enjoy each other’s company.
Lust and sexual chemistry will not hold a relationship together. It’s so much fun in the beginning, but once you have figured out you don’t even like your partner, forget about it. Cut your losses.
I have strong feelings about Kathryn, I have known a few women like her in my day, but I try and refrain from blasting my real feelings about her because I know some of you like her.
I ended this season not really liking Kathryn all that much. I think the real turning point for me was when she didn’t go back to Charleston and help Thomas ‘clear his name’ with that hairdresser chick. She said she would (unless it was editing) and then Craig (who had his own best interest at heart) suggested she stay and she did. She didn’t even seem to struggle with the decision one teeny tiny bit…just a so long sucker, and a see ya, don’t want to be ya. I guess she thought she was getting even, but really all she got was Thomas trying to get away from her, and her running down the boardwalk screaming and chasing him, and making them both look bad, AGAIN.
I liked Kathryn more this season than last at first, but I lost all respect for her when she let it be known that Thomas promised to basically support her once she got pregnant. She claimed she wasn’t a gold digger earlier in the season, yet the things she said early in the finale don’t support that. I think she & Craig would make a fabulous couple….they both seem really stupid! Did he really graduate from law school?? & has he managed to pass a bar exam yet???
Total gold-digger. I seem to remember Kathryn having a talk with her grandmother last season. Grandma basically said “Marry money” (total paraphrase, but I got the message loud and clear).
I don’t think Kathryn would have chosen Thomas over those other guys, but she liked his name and his money.
She has an agenda.
I am sure I will get attacked for this one, pregnancies are not always planned, by all means, but I’m thinking she trapped him. That pregnancy was planned on her part.
Just my opinion.
Pip, she absolutely knew what she was doing!! She is young, but she isn’t that young & naive. She managed to work her way through the other 2 men on the show who have $$, so I think she trapped the one who was too drunk to remember to wear a condom.
Just my opinion.
Gingersnap, I see them as like oil and oil–they’re both a bit slimey and too similar to get along. Two narcissistic people don’t work well together because a narcissist needs someone to manipulate. These two are too much alike IMHO.
I’m over Kathryn . She has totally hijacked this show. I realize that’s she’s young but her psychotic obsessiveness isn’t due to her age. I never acted like that when I was that age. This girl is so stupid that she doesn’t even try to hide that she’s desperate to have Thomas and the life being with him entails. I can’t with the fur coat. Who even wears for anymore ? I wonder how many animals died for her coat?
Tp you stated that Kathryn was not hiding her desperation to have Thomas and a life with him. Did you happen to notice the strong desperation emanating from Whitney the moment he noticed Thomas and Kathryn talking? He spotted them while he was still on stage and I thought he was going to throw down his guitar and pull an “Elvis has left the building” before the song was over to get to Thomas. The whole time he and Thomas were talking he was blaming Kathryn for everything from Thomas losing the election to the reason Eve offered Adam the apple in the garden of Eden lol. After every statement he would put his hand on Thomas’ shoulder or touch him somewhere. It was as obvious as Craig’s red pants. Not saying Kathryn doesn’t have her own brand of crazy but Whitney ain’t giving up Thomas to her without a fight. Did anyone else notice it?
Yes! It was so creepy. Whitney is in LOVE with Thomas. Too bad Thomas doesn’t realize it. Or perhaps that could be the story line next season. Whitney professes his undying love for Thomas. He and Katherine continue their cat fights. Everyone is shocked. Pat has fainting spells because she never thought Whitney would “come out”. Something like that.
Angel(?) I think that whole thing would be closer to a “reality” show than this season. Also Craig passes the bar, comes back and represents Kathryn in her child support case. Lol.
Whitney seems to have sincere feelings of dread about Kathryn as a proper mate for his best friend Thomas. Whit even believes that Kath and her hairdresser conspired to sabotage Thomas’ election. I believe Whit’s fears are real, paranoid or not. Whitney sees Kathryn as a danger to Thomas for reasons known best to himself and Thomas.
@hannahkingrose:
I saw the inserted shots of Whitney looking at something from the stage. Could’ve been Kathryn and Thomas, but it also could’ve been the guy on the sound board, the band-mate next to him, the coat-check rack, or anyone else in the audience.
Personally, I doubt that Whitney was able to see much of anything from the stage – given how stage lighting works – but this is how the editors build a story (or attempt to) out of lots of random footage.
And Shep totally agrees with you. He was dissing Craig like a jealous, jr. high mean girl when Craig won the auction. It was not Shep’s finest hour. That mustard yellow, daddy George Bush jacket that he wore was unattractive as hell. He cleans up so well that he should have worn a nice sports jacket or a Ken doll tuxedo for the auction–something other than that yellow yuck jacket.
@Marky ~ I agree with what you said about Whitney and his sincere feelings of dread over the Thomas/Kathryn situation. I think he wants to derail the train wreck he perceives as Kathryn, simply because Thomas is his friend.
@Marky
I thought Craig’s outfit was way more dorkyish than Shep’s Daniel Boone vest. Those red pants? Come on! My Dad use to wear all kinds of weird colored or striped or patterned pants when he golfed (which was daily). I found it so embarrassing (but just now, thinking about it 15 years after his death I have to smile and chuckle… What a goofball he was!)
Craig looks like a model (and one who doesn’t take great care of his skin or body), but Shep looks like a man.
@Tp
That is so funny about the fur coat. I have three full length fur coats that I inherited and they have been in the same wardrobe bags in a closet in my home since I got them like fifteen years ago. I wouldn’t DREAM of wearing a fur coat! So tacky and garish in my opinion. I would like to burn them in a bonfire, but my nieces have gone through every square inch of my home (jewelry, furs, clothes, handbags, etc) and have put their claims on everything. I am NOT a fur coat person AT ALL! (But I do love me some baubles and designer handbags!)
Oh, my. Looks like Patricia has an ancestor who was a General in the Confederate Army. Tricky, Yankee woman, tricky.
That is NOT what she said. Remember, she likes to use her spouses lineage as her own.
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TT, Patricia retweeted on her timeline a comment that said “I aspire to be like Patricia when I grow up.”. It was all I could do not to respond on her TL by saying that she should buy self help books on how to attract and get in succession several wealthy older men with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel to marry you. Then figure out what skeletons may be in their closets or how to pick locks or get them to give you their computer passwords. Learn to rewrite your own personal bio incorporating said wealthy older spouses’ lineages. During the process manage to conceive and deliver only a single heir to train in your image distancing yourself from the biological father as far as possible. Then finally wash, rinse, and repeat. Allegedly this could possibly be the way to reach the goal she desires lmao.
The General was Frank Dey. Dey is her MAIDEN NAME.
A couple of my dogs have excellent lineage as well, so as I feed and nurture them, I, too shall refer to and use their lineage as my own whenever I’m in the la di da, nose up in the air frame of mind. My aristocratic, Maltese ancestors would be pleased.
I googled “General Frank Dey” and got nothing. Zip. Some mentions of a possible General Dey in the Revolutionary war but nothing very concrete. So I guess I have to wonder.
While you are wondering, and if you find him, ask yourself, is the REVOLUTIONARY WAR ( in which my ancestors fought) yankee or southern?
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONFEDERACY THEN!
but, your pal TRho is obsessed to prove Pat is a southern Belle. She is not. Trust me this was all HILARIOUSLY in the cease and desist email her Yankee lawyers sent me.
Please don’t dissuade them from suing me. I know a guy with deep pockets.
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I found a Private Frank Dey from Missouri, but he is the only civil war soldier with that name.
I’ve laughed at most of her shenanigans & uppity comments this season, but I’m horrified that she would claim to be a descendant of a Confederate general! I’m a very proud descendant of General Wade Hampton, & she is a horrible Yankee if she can’t back up her claims!
Oh, and Frank Edgar Dey, the private from Missouri, was born in…wait for it….New Jersey. He lived the remainder of his life in Florida.
I LOVE YOU WITH ALL MY OVARIES.
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If your ancestor was born in a northern state 170 years ago, but fought in the confederate army, lived in the south and all his descendents from that time on also were born and raised in the south, then you’re southern, and nothing anyone says will change those facts.
Also, Patricia never claimed her ancestor was a general, she merely said she came from a family of military men. It appears her father was a Navy Lt. for a time also.The picture was captioned as Gen. Frank Dey. Who knows who’s responsible for that caption.
Her first husband was 8 years older than her and not particularly wealthy. Her second was 14 years older and again, not a magnate of anything. Her last husband was 25 years older and rich. She was well into middle age when she married him.
Do you know the difference between the revolutionary war and the war of Northern Aggression?
You seem to REALLY want Patti to be a southerner.
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Her grandfather was born in NJ and her father was born in Florida and spent most of his life there since he had her when he was quite old.
So one ancestor who moved from NJ to Missouri, fought in the Confederacy and then moved to Florida makes you a Southerner!??!?
Even I know that’s not right.
During the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, the war to which she referred in her attempt to allude to being a DAR, there were thirteen colonies. It was a new country. There were militias that were local to small area to fight the damn Injuns who seemed to think they belonged there. Once the Brits started sending over some troops and some German troops to fight the thirteen colonies, they banded together to for the Continental Army. Because at that time, the fucking Yankees had not invaded us and burned shit up. So there was not yankee solider and southern soldiers per se. We were one big happy army. Muchlike the Germans fighting for the redcoats didn’t make them British…
Sigh why do you continue to just be so very wrong, Trho?
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So grandfather born in NJ and moved to Missouri, died in Florida.
Father born in Florida and lived there most of his life.
Patricia born in Florida (although Jacksonville is at least the right part of the state) and grew up in Richmond.
Seems to me that someone who boasts of their strong southern lineage should have a paternal relative or two who were actually born in a Southern state, shouldn’t she?
Perhaps someone could tweet Patricia and ask her about her ancestor who was a “general” in the Confederate Army. She should also update the wikipidia page on Confederate Generals since her ancestor seems to have been left off. I’m sure it was just an oversight….
I posted a link to his grave showing private and got in moderation (begging to not be a window licker). I haven’t found confirmation but I am pretty sure he was a private in the UNION army.
There was also a Frank Dey who fought on the Union side and was a private, but I’m assuming Patricia isn’t claiming him. 🙂
I love you with all my ovaries and whatever eggs may be left.
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Okay I went to my Cyst and Deceased and it say I should stop repeating that she is not a descendant of Robert E Lee or Pocohantas, but that she is a descendant of a “confederate army officer.”
BWAHAHHAHAHHA oh how the mighty have fallen.
She is the fucking definition of people who want to be southern but Aren’t and she is not a DAR member. And my siblings are. And I now want to pat the whole deal just ot be there because SHE HAS NO LINEAGE.
She a woman who married A LOT to try to be acknowledged. It’s horrible. And at SEVENTY FOUR YEARS OLD, it still bothers her that she is a Yankee in the south and a NO BODY.
#SorryNotSorry #TeamKathryn
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m loving ALL of this! I’m without ovaries…10 years and counting! Soooo, I’ll love you with all my hot flashes ?
Can we boot Patricia already? She was mildly amusing last season, but she has contributed nothing this season other than to remind us how Whitney became such a self-centered a-hole. She seems to be under the impression that class has to do with the position she holds her nose while she makes her comments. I just love to hear her criticize Katherine’s lack of hosting ability when the only conceivable ability she has is to write a check while her help makes her another drink.
I find her interesting in her infamy. I love her house and wouldn’t turn down her lifestyle, butlers and all. She and I do have one thing in common–love of dogs. But doing old men is where I must draw the line. I’d marry a nice old man for the money–as long as he didn’t want sex. Talk about an unrealistic goal. For now, I’ll live happyish in my morass of middle classiness and pleased as punch not to have any old man sex recollections in my memory.
Completely agree on all points.
I love the exterior style of her home. Those columns are gorgeous. But the interior? Not for me… chintz, floral and patterns everywhere. Way too busy.
@Marky:
How old were her husbands, and how old was she when she married them?
I was absolutely horrified that she brought her butler & her own alcohol to the Christening earlier in the season, & then had the nerve to criticize the decor & setting of the party. If I’d ever even thought of bringing my own liquor to a party because I just couldn’t settle & couldn’t wait til I left the party to drink, my proper Southern Meme would’ve beaten my ass! & I would’ve deserved it for being incredibly awful & horrible & nouveau riche!
I’m glad to learn that to be a good hostess I shasta ups know how to gut a chicken.
I am glad to learn that to be a good hostess I should know how to gut a chicken.
Typos^^^^
And how to twirl a nasty looking, hairy vegetable and compare it to your relationship.
Yup.
Thomas actually did one thing right and that’s telling her they should just stay friends. Do I think he will still try and sleep with her, yes because he is a pig and doesn’t care that this girl is young and all in her emotions. But they really are toxic for each other. He can’t love her like she wants to be loved and she is to young to deal with a serious relationship. She is very jealous, not totally without reason.
Is it because he’s a pig, or is it because he’s a normal guy??
Every time I see Whitney, I think he’s playing the Kevin Spacey role in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. He’s so inauthentic that I assume he’s just a plant, trying his acting chops. Thomas is a pig, lusting after a 20 yr old. Katherine is stuck with a kid, so she’s going to waste many years chasing until something else clicks for her.
Well, earlier in the season Thomas was on WWHL and Katherine was in the audience with him. At that point they said they were together. I wonder if they still are?
I thought they were lying then. She was so annoyed and eye rolly the whole time. Although that could have been because he was so hammered….
Could have been just for show, but I wouldn’t travel to NY with an ass (even if he is my baby’s daddy). Maybe she wanted camera time. Once he did that Facebook breakup, I would be taking his wallet to family court!
I thought the whole cast was in town for something…maybe the premier? I dunno.
Was that the show MJ was on? She made some comments Katherine didn’t like, which initiated some of the eye rolling. She often times has that stanky bitch look on her face. Not a fun looking girl imo.
The auction struck me as totally fake. Which makes me think that just about everything in this show is fake.
I still luvs me some Shep even after last nights fuster cluck of a finale. I really like this show. It’s a nice balance of men, boys, women, etc. and it’s playful and silly. Not too dark like some of the housewives shows are/have become. I’m looking forward to Below Deck as well. Hope Captain Lee is back – mmm hmmm! 🙂
Shep, even in his Daniel Boone jacket, is infinitely more fuckable than Craig.
Indeed! Bet he’d even bring a ‘lady’ breakfast in bed. Major points!
Absolutely!! Can you imagine waking up to Craig’s whiny voice? Ugh!
Or going to bed with it….even worse.
I wonder where Craig is taking the bar. Is he taking it in Delaware or SC. It seems like he is taking it for Delaware and saying goodbye to SC. IMO he better get some kind of job to pay his student loans. That said I hope he is done with the show except for maybe an occasional guest spot, he is just not appealing to be with his pretty boy personna
I wondered that exact same thing. My old room mate attended law school here in Minnesota, but then went on to do her LLM at Georgetown and now practices in DC. She took her bar in Maryland and can now only practice in DC, Maryland, and Virginia.
If he takes the bar in Delaware, he won’t be able to practice law in South Carolina, will he?
i think you have to pass the bar in each state to practice there, but i think you can be “of counsel” and like piggyback off another attorney who has passed the bar in that state
at my law firm, when a Partner retires, s/he becomes “Of Counsel”
He can move to take cases ‘pro hac vice’ without being admitted to the bar in a state, & most judges will let attorneys in good standing take at least one case in their jurisdiction without being admitted in that state. Of course, he does need to pass the bar in at least one state.
& yes, ‘of Counsel’ is usually either a retired partner or an attorney who works for a firm when needed but isn’t on the payroll.
That is not true. In many firms, Of Counsel is the step between associate and partner. A promotion of sorts. They are most definitely on the pay roll.
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Sorry, I was just basing my comment on my experiences with a few firms. I guess by “not on the payroll”, I meant that I was never full-time and/or salaried when I was considered ‘of counsel’, but I don’t know how every firm everywhere deals with that position.
What a disappointment this season has been. Last season was fresh and fun and appeared less scripted. I didn’t dislike any of these characters, and was pleased to see folks express genuine affection for each other.
This season, as others have posted, was so laughably and clumsily scripted that Whitney must have had a hand in it.
Seems that Craig’s plan the entire season was to go home to study for the bar, as he is genuinely ambitious and The “campaign” was a farce to boost ratings, but Thomas forgot and took the faux praise and support seriously. What an ego. The 3.4 percent must have come from fans of the show.
Kathryn, running after Thomas, screaming out his name with that smoker’s voice, her tacky fur flapping behind her… Dramatic and I loved it.
Whitney looks like a hybrid between Alfalfa and Count Dracula…With all that money, why can’t he find a decent hairstylist?
Best description I’ve heard. Add a bonus giggle when at first I read Count Chocula. (Damn aging eyes.)
Omg Count Chocula
Perfect description! His hair is so distractingly repulsive.
Or maybe Eddie Munster with a day old beard?
Hahaha. So true. He always looks like he needs a good scrubbin’.
He looks like Alfalfa’s evil, smirking twin. He and his mother are so image conscious, you’d think Whitney would have more self-awareness about his appearance. The stuck-in-the ’60’s hipster look is not ironic, it’s off-putting.
Made me laugh.
Arnee
Nice!! LOL
I am starting with…. I am bored and will do anything to avoid cleaning my house. Therefore, I decided to research civil war general Frank E. Dey. he was born between 1841-1846 died 1930 (1910 &1920 censuses don’t agree) in NJ. His parents were both born in NY. He moved to Milton, FL in 1900 and was a jeweler. I found multiple documentation calling him 1st brigade general out of milton. All were veteran related. True history sites never mention him (and I checked several), nor was he even listed in states militia. not to mention he would have been a general at 15 years old! I did find where Frank e Dey fought in Missouri light Artillery.
Seems the apple didn’t fall far from the tree with reinventing herself.
Oh and please note 110,000 Missouri troops were in the union army and 30,000 were in confederate army at the end of the war. Uh huh, patty, I think your grandpa was a reenactor.
Still not cleaning my house. Now on a quest to find documentation that he was a private in the UNION army!
i love you and your excuses!!! you are the master i must learn from
Didn’t clean a damn thing. Went for my required walk, watered my tomatoes and ate cookies
Wonderful research! ! Verrrry interesting. I love Not cleaning house for any reason, but I like that your excuse turned into something fruitful.
Scripted or not, Shep came off as a jealous, petty jackass for overreacting to not getting any bids at the auction. Shep’s been such a cutie throughout the season that the jealousy thing was surprising and a let down.
I don’t think Landon will be getting into any verbal jousts with Kathryn anytime soon. “Classless” reaction or not, firebrand Kath has no problem ripping someone a new one when she deems it necessary.
Thomas didn’t come through on any of his promises to Kathryn- not even a car, much less marriage. Thomas is a cautious, jaded, self serving son of a southern scion who happily and simply refuses to engage in introspection or taking any responsibility for the Kathryn debacle. He got his beautiful baby and his rocks off on Kathryn and that’s a done deal for him.
What was jarring was Kathryn’s recitation of the ways Thomas had failed her — it seemed all about what he didn’t buy her. She appears immature and calculating at the same time.
It was sooo telling of exactly why Kathryn is so enamored of Thomas. It’s the perks that come with Thomas that kept that unrepentant golddigger interested in him. And the fact that she would name off the list of “stuff” that he “promised” is so brazen. I wonder if she gets or even cares how that made her look.
Thomas is cautious, as any man in his position should be. It’s a shame neither he or Kathryn was sober enough to plan ahead, but his mistake was not having some type of custody plan ready before they had the baby. His (likely) drunken promises of houses & cars & commitments wouldn’t mean a thing if he’d been smart from the “oopsi” pregnancy test. I’m not excusing either of them, but any future fights could have been avoided.
Marky, IIRC, you are from overseas and don’t know how this works. THESE SHOWS ARE NOT REAL. Do you remember when they were getting dressed and Craig was talking about how much better looking he was than Shep and how Shep, SHEP, somehow didn’t own his looks?
SIGH please. I have no idea how much Internet I have left in the storm.
BUT ARE YOU THAT STUPID was important for me to say.
I think Shep will survive.
Gawd.
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Was that Thomas laughing after he told Kathryn to leave him alone? I thought it was. I thought I saw him smiling right after sounding angry. That editing made it look like the chase down the pier was scripted.
Thank goodness someone else was put off about the baking sheet vs roasting pan moment, TT! It pissed me off so much that I yelled at my television.
And I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t understand the sex appeal of Kathryn’s dress. I was all like WTF are they going on about? She looked shitty.
I didn’t get it either. I mean she looked nice, but it was just a dress. Nothing spectacularly sexy.
I think my grandma had that dress. She was not sexy.
She was when she conceived your parent.
Hahaha Marky but she wasn’t wearing granny dresses then I’m sure.
Landon has the oddest accent ever… I cringe when she speaks.
Kathryn… Where do I begin? Immature doesn’t even begin to cover it. I remember last season how Thomas went on and on about how she handled herself with such “grace” during the pregnancy scare…. Right, because she knew she wasn’t knocked up! Even the Dr was like , you’re only a couple days late
Landon’s accent & giggle are awful!! Can you imagine if she & Craig got together? Whiny & Giggly…ugh!
As for Kathryn, I think she should maybe drink less, especially when she knows she’s being filmed for the show. The rest of them can be drunk idiots, but she’s a mother. Yes, Thomas is a father, but men are held to lesser standards when it comes to parenting. As the mother of a young child, she shouldn’t be on a TV show drunk. & the cell phone video of Thomas’ assault is horrifying!!
It kind of sounds like Landon doesnt know where her tongue should be when she is talking. Still, I like her a lot and hope she will he back if the show is on next year. She seems sensible but still fun.
Yeah. I thought my DVR cut out early so I went OnDemand and had to sit through some of it over again (I could flip in ten min increments but not FF) only to find that Craig was the only one to get a final wrap up. But it wasn’t even caption with where is he now info. Really weird.
I didn’t think the Craig shep (did you hear the auctioneer call him Shemp?
I died) fight was staged. I think that Shep was honestly jealous of Craig. And being a real brat about it. Speaking of brats, Kathryn’s possum coat and 1970s mormon flower child dress were awful. And the dress hung a good half a foot longer that the coat. No. Just no. And I didn’t think that Thomas’s reaction to her was scripted. She walked in all sexy acting. He got a boner. She spoke. His dick remembered what her shrew voice sounds like and shriveled up into a cavity somewhere.
Yeah. Roasting pan. Not sheet pan. But at least we didn’t have to watch anyone slather mayo in fish. ::shudder::
What was the deal with the house Landon was looking at? I thought she was buying it to live there, but later it seemed like she was simply borrowing it for an art/antique sale. I’m in love with I it. That staircase…oy!! Love.
I was trying to decide what kind of fur the coat was made of. It looks more like it was constructed of remnants from Carpeteria though. :o=
Kathryn is a great mom with a good heart. If Thomas had married Kathryn, he would have done much better in the election by pesenting as a committed, stable, family man. Also, Kathryn is a great beauty with super style and a fabulous personality and Kathryn and Kensie would have been a great asset to Thomas. Thomas should dump Norman Bates whose ad sinked Thomas. Ewww.
What have we seen so far to lead us to believe that Kathryn is a “great mom?” I’ve seen some photo ops, a silly second christening, and a whole lot of sending the baby to grandma so she can party.
I was on Jekyll this weekend and spoke with some of the staff. Apparently they also shot a scene in the grand dining room at the hotel which did not make the show. ” More tears, we need more tears” was what I was told production said.
LOL I can’t remember who was doing the crying then. Kathryn? Thanks for the tip!
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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The staff at Jekyll all had to sign releases, the cast complained about everything and were generally a pain. Also there is no way in hell they slept on the beach according to staff. The tides would have prevented it when they were there so…
Thoughts………
that joke the designer made about Whitney’s pants totally went over my head.
I didn’t find the fight between Craig and Shep or the scene with Kathryn particularly fake.
My guess was Landon was either using her divorce money or her mom was helping her. California is a 50/50 state right?
In previews during the season I remember Cam in a clip saying (paraphrased) “You lose your job, you lose your house, where is the bottom?” yet I did not see that scene in any episode.
I thing that Craig’s storyline was edited down for unknown reasons. There seemed to be a piece or 2 of his story missing which if Iincluded might explain Cam and Shep’s anger better and also give us more details as to why Craig decided to leave.
Was he evicted?