This has been a long damn day despite getting up shortly after noon. Before I was even awake the whole Kenya drama started which filled the moderated comments with Nenetards and a mob of morons that like Porsha. I threw up a quick post and went to seating people in the window licking section. At the same time, Nancy starts spouting off about how gay couples should not be allowed to marry because Reza Farahan is a cuntbag. Not the best timing for a homophobic post. I haven’t eaten all day and I am irritable and exhausted. Then just before I was trying to set up for this, there is some story about Claudia getting escorted out of a mall in Auburn Alabama. So I am telling you now, not to expect much from this blog. Also apologies for unreturned emails, thanks for all the links, and apologies for not getting the Ru Paul Drag Race post up today, that is a very tedious and time consuming task and it was just not possible today. I’ll do my best to do it tomorrow.
Tonight the ladies are going to take their drinking and bickering on the road to Atlantic City. Whoo Hoo! It’s time for the ladies to leave and Heather, Kristen and Dorinda go to pick up Sonja in the rain and one of her interns tells them they will have to wait outside because Sonja is packing does not wan to be disturbed. This is TOTALLY storyline because in any other situation they would leave and let Sonja get her own ride there. Somehow Luann and Carole managed to get excused from the trip. Sonja’s talking head says her excuse is that her sister was supposed to watch her kid but her best friend died so she can’t. Isn’t Sonja’s kid like 45?
I’m pretty sure I used to hate Heather. But if I have to pick a dog in this fight, it’s totally Heather.
Bethenny is trying to give Sonja a lecture on how to not sound pretentious. Then she pees on the side of the road. My head already hurts. I can’t imagine a three hour limo drive with this crew. Did Luann and Carole just show up? Yes, yes they did. They are in the penthouse suite with Heather.
Bethenny has an abnormal hate-on for Heather. WHY? She’s also all over Sonja’s jock, to use Bethenny’s vernacular. I cannot do a blow by blow of she said, she said tonight. Just imagine a bunch of drunk bitches insulting each other all at once. Plus Bethenny being condescending to everyone about how condescending and loud they are. Sonja is drunk and crying.
Oh hell yeah! They are at the tables and I am excited now. For some reason I didn’t think they would be allowed to film in the casino. I admire Bethenny for betting on her own away from the girls for a bit after dinner. That is exactly what I would have done. I want to know how much the black and red chips are at the Borgata but not badly enough to Google right now. Ramona gambled together and Ramona hit 21. She’s playing next to some dude with an Elvis Pressley cap on. Kristen comes to bet next to Bethenny. She tells them to just talk to each other. If she is not hot in that seat, I fully expect her to trade with Kristen. Ramona and Sonja are raking it in on their table, and Bethenny has had to rebuy at least once. Luann and Heather are now at Bethenny’s table. Carole arrives in a long sleeve t-shirt with a fake tuxedo on the front with boob hanging out. I wanted to try to pull a picture for you but I don’t have time. I don’t think Heather or Carole are gambling.
The ladies all dance on a platform while the Countess tries to keep Sonja’s vagina off display. Drunk Sonja corners Bethenny and won’t shut the fuck up. Bethenny Flees. Dorinda is tasked with getting Sonja to her bed. Sonja is dropping all sorts of names. I feel like we are watching the east coast Kim Richards. Sonja is spouting of to Dorinda about how rich she is and how many people she knows. She says she parties with Jon Jon Kennedy all the time. Dorinda points out that he is dead. Side note: Sean John Padiddler puffy puff daddy combs was on WWHL the other night and Andy asked if he hung out on Sonja’s lot and played the clip. He say, “wow she has a fertile imagination.” Or something similar.
The next morning everyone has a Sonja hangover. Except for Sonja who feels just fine. Probably because she is still drunk. Ramona and Sonja both blame Sonja’s behavior on the “baramic.” They seem to mean barometric pressure from the rain. Which is a real thing. Changes in barometric pressure really effect me.
Bethenny pulls Sonja aside to give her another lecture. Bethenny says she can’t mix alcohol with the prescription pills anymore. She tries to commiserate with her about her divorce and her legal battles. It doesn’t seem to be sinking in with Sonja. As big as a bitch that Bethenny is, she seems to be genuinely trying to help.
Meanwhile all the other ladies are stuffing their faces while talking about Sonja’s issues.
Next Week: The girls go to a boxing match. Bethenny feeds a clown at an art exhibit.
And I am hopefully off work for the night after an hour or so of sifting through comments. Night, y’all
Well, if you aren’t supposed to drink while on prescription meds, none of these women would be drinking on camera. I used to think Sonja was playing a character. Now I just think she is sad. Time to get over it and move on. What is that you said TT? Buck up Buttercup? That’s what Sonja needs to do. Of course, all of this could be a ruse and Sonja knows what she is doing to play the audience, but I don’t think so. I think she was truly alcohol impaired. Want to know why? She took off her shoes in the suite with Demetra. They never take off their shoes.
You bring up the most excellent point, that most of America misses-the prescription meds mixed with any alcohol, not just big drinkers. All the HW franchises have shown it, we just didn’t know enough to catch it. A true story for all of us to pay attention to. Irrational behavior reigns with drug/booze combo.
My behavior is irrational with just the booze/booze combo
amen @Tootsie, me too on the booze/booze combo
The worst combo is the housewife’s lil’ secret-a couple of xanax or adderall mixed with a few glasses of wine. It makes the day pass in a pleasant haze-unfortunately, it can turn on you without warning- and the resulting blackouts are a nasty side effect.
@chasemum: I believe that Ramona was on the adderall/pinot grigio combo when she had those crazy eyes and psycho outbursts in seasons past. It also explains how they don’t eat.
I’m about ready to try that diet. 🙂
I need that diet so my house is clean! The adderall part.
The shrieking tonight was too much. Man I need a drink and some pills after that.
Sonja needs to drink a cup of cement and harden the fuck up. Good lord, she needs to get a grip.
Dorinda guess what as the new girl it is so your time to babysit Sonja everyone else has had a turn. Enjoy that!
Name dropping Madonna and John John, oh Sonja.
The name-dropping would be bad enough were it true, but it was such an obvious lie – unworthy of Sonja. Or at least, how I used to think of Sonja. She seems more and more like a wannabe who never was, and who has major problems with the truth – rather pathetic – instead of someone who is genuine and has had an unfortunate reversal of fortune.
(I mean, come on. JFK, Jr. and Madonna only went out for, like, a hot minute – if that. Maybe she hung out with them once, but I’m not even buying that!)
…and it was all clandestine too. It’s not like they were out seen together. They were just fucking.
Her inability to get over her divorce, the constant binge drinking combined with med mixing, the young men dating, reminds me of BG without the vulgar language and vindictiveness. Idk what’s sadder.
Sonya parties with John-John Kennedy all the time. Well I’ve got Elvis next to me and neither of us think there is anything wrong with that.
wait, he was supposed to hang with me tonight…
Tamara, sorry for your day…slog days can be the worst. If nothing else, keep hydrated. Wishing you restorative rest…keep well and be well.
I feel like Bethenney has been tasked with the job of trying to get through to Sonja but even she can’t get through. It’s exhausting ! Why , after several seasons of her behaving this way , can she not see that everyone is sick of hearing her name drop and tell everyone she’s this and that?! Imagine being the women and having to live the unedited version ?! Omg! Even after Bethenney laid it all out for her, she came away feeling superior! Saying that Bethenney is projecting! I can’t. It’s really old and I get anxious watching her. She needs to go to a therapist and stop filming this show. In a way I think it’s making her worse. On a side note.. Did anyone else hear her ask Carole if she smelled skunk after she hugged her? Lol hello?? No wonder Carole is so relaxed all the time . Haha
Oh wow. Skunk weed! I’m not surprised though.
Poor Sonja. If it’s a substance abuse problem, okay, that means she’s really hurting. Sonja can be a bit much sometimes, but I don’t think it compares to Kim Richards in BH. Sonja seems damaged. She’s sad and needs help. I’m not mad at her because it doesn’t seem like her behavior is cutting into anyone else’s stuff. That being said I wish she would get it together.
I have to give Carole major props for being able to get high before shooting – I would FREAK THE FUCK OUT with all that shit around me.
There was a scene last year with the ladies all talking in some kitchen, I think maybe Luann’s old place, and Carole was kind of just chilling in the background – when she was asked a question she kind of just side eyed the camera and gave a “yeeaahh….”
It was one of the few times I’ve watched housewives in a large group setting, and simultaneously everyone was like holy shit that lady is stoned on housewives.
Why does Bethenny with her black heart think it’s up to her to fix Sonja? It was nice of her to talk one on one with Sonja but Bethenny isn’t new to this game so why did she expect any different? She SHOULD be smarter than that.
What about Dee-dee-dee-dee wearing one blue and one green shoe because she “forgot the other”? I can’t stand her.
Awe I thought the shoe combo took balls! Got to hand it to Kristen on the fashion front, she takes risks and doesn’t wear the same tired silhouette each week! I love her style.
Love her blog! She has some great make up tips and affordable product recommendations.
Kristen? She has the absolute WORST fashion! Queen of the kitten heel! BLECH!
Not to be disagreeable with Sal, but um, no. Mismatched shoes just don’t quite cut it in the fashion world, or even in mine 🙂 Sorry that she’s just a dingbat and forgot her shoe mates, but it just proves again, that she’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. It wasn’t a good look all the way around, imo.
Read her blog, she did it on purpose because she thought it was kewl!
She fibbed on the show.
She’s an idiot.
I don’t get your comment that you can’t stand her-you don’t seem to know her name!
Wasn’t particularly a Kristen fan, but I love fashion, and I love her blog. She gives makeup and product alternatives that are affordable, and I love the subtle way her makeup is usually done. May become one of my favorite fashion blogs.
I like Kristen. She can be annoying but she always looks great and put together. She doesn’t do the same look over and over or non age appropriate clothing. I need to check out her blog.
I didn’t understand that at all either.
@theartistformerlyknownasyoya lmao hahahah I hate kitten heels too! They just look stupid on me.
I thought Sonja had to put her townhouse on the market? How does she still have it?
I still love Bethenny. I think she is beginning to find her grove on this show.
I felt for Dorinda!
I love Bethenny too. I love that she’s such a bitch 🙂
I totally get her hate-on with Heather, after Heather brought her that BS about Kristen’s hurt fee-fees.
Well it’s good she has a couple of fans.
I’m no Heather fan, she seems desperate to make Bethenny her storyline. I’m OK with Bethenny coming back if she had volume control and a slow button. I get affected by barometric pressure as well, but doesn’t make me roll on a table for my goods to be displayed of the world. I think their barometric pressure had tequila in it.
I don’t think Betheney is enjoying this season at all. She is either pissy, condescending and rude or anxious and self conscious. The thing is that her not having fun makes her so unlikable! She looks like she is forced to be there and thinking in her head “why am I doing this for” the whole time. I understand that it is for PR purposes but at this point she will do better for herself if she was off of television rather than on it.
Wow! we are not watching the same show at all.
I think Bethenny is enjoying herself immensely. She’s getting a fat paycheck, free SG product placement, and can do and say pretty much anything she wants. Plus the show provides a diversion from work and her messy divorce.
Maybe she is worried about the millions she made selling Skinny Girl and needs a paycheck from Bravo.
Well I agree she isn’t likable maybe she is buying into Sonja’s PR.
I just think she isn’t likeable this season. she does not need the paycheck- she is doing this season for PR and I don’t think it is working. On watch what happens live a caller named it “betheanny fatigue”. She is just bitchy to everyone.
Xo TT
i just can’t with sonja anymore. she has done lost her shit, it will never be found. i cannot fathom that this isn’t giving her ex-husband ammo to take her to court. she is so delusional about everything in her life and reeks of desperation, it is pretty sad. she has never gotten over her divorce not just from her husband but his money. poor ramona, damn, i really feel for her, she is hurt, deep down hurt and as much as i cannot stand her i feel for her. i cannot believe bettheny thought she could talk some sense into sonja, i mean she has cracked and everyone tried to warn her and she didn’t listen. i generally think betheny is a bitch and has created much of her own bullshit i think she really does care about sonja. you could see her really hurting for her and trying, not the normal screechy crap but she was trying to talk to crazy and make her see. when you get these glimpses of her like this she is more likable and you have more of a heart for what she is going through. i do like that heather and betheny both are talking about how the other has a good brain for whatever, that fued is one that i don’t enjoy. poor kristen, miss matched shoes… she needs to get out more. and dorinda, she handled sonja with as much grace as anyone could have. she earned her place on this episode
Dorinda really did. I thought she handled drunk Sonja VERY well.
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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I have a friend with Sonja’s tendency to repeat herself incessantly, while I love the friend the behavior drives me nuts. She goes even farther than Sonja by saying, for instance, “Blah Blah Blah”…and a minute later saying “like I said, Blah, Blah, Blah”. So in one sentence she acknowledges that she is repeating herself but does it anyway over and over. I have tried the nice approach to clueing her in that it is annoying and offputting and I have tried the Bethenny approach of just spelling it out but in the end it is just some brain wiring disconnect and I choose to love her anyway, flaws and all.
I don’t feel sympathy for Sonja. This is exactly the same depressing crap as watching Kim Richards. I can tolerate the others, but get really pissed that Bravo is shoving Sonja’s issues down my throat. She repeats but never listens to anyone else talk.
I enjoy watching LuAnn.
I love Luann.
Me too.
You got it. “She NEVER listens to anyone else talk”! When anyone is speaking to her she just gets this glazed expression on her face and says something entirely off the subject.
Bethenny does not have a hard on hate for Heather like you said. It’s the other way around. Read in between the lines. The real reason why B called Heather out is because in the midst of being kicked out of Sonja’s house, Heather was BITCHING about Bethenny being 30 minutes late to the limo.
This is why B called her a hypocrite after Heather was an entire hour late for dinner. Her point was that being late isn’t a big deal. I disagree with her there, but her point was to call out hypocrisy.
The Sonja vs Heather/Kristen debacle was producer driven and Heather bringing up B’s lateness was part of the storyline that simple got overshadowed by the former.
agreed JD. Heather was being a hypocrite when she didn’t own being late to dinner that night. I’m glad that Bethenny and Heather seem to hit their groove later in the season. I generally find Bethenny hilarious however do see that she’s been on edge so far this season. Seems like the divorce/custody battle has taken a toll.
Sonja is the least self aware person I’ve ever seen on TV. Well maybe she’s tied with Nene.
See confirmation of this with Kristen’s blog where she explicitly states that they were mad at Bethenny for taking her daughter to school when she and Heather couldn’t do the same. It all boiled down to a lack of communication aka producer driven madness!
I feel pretty certain most, if not all of these ‘timing’ issues are production driven. We’ve seen it a thousand times already. I guess they have to do what they have to do to get the shit started.
Yep!
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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In real life being late is kind of rude, but mature adults just figure that they won’t bother to invite that person again, or hold up the limo/event waiting for them.
On Bravo apparently it is worthy of nonstop bitching and whinging, totally worthy of starting a fight about. Kind of stupid. Especially when you factor in that production usually control the scheduling. Blame production if you don’t have time to run errands for your kid.
Totally agree with the comments, but I don’t agree with somehow insinuating Bethenny has a hatred for Heather based on this epsiode. If anything, she was the only one trying to NOT make a big deal about anyone being late whether it was herself, Sonja or Heather.
I feel like Heather & Bethany kind of nit pick each other. It would be nice for them to drop it and get along. I would like them both more. Heather seems a bit on edge this season I was wondering if something was going on with her while this season filmed. She looked gorgeous and laid back on wwhl recently.
I’ve never had to be a “snatch guard”, I feel so left out. lol Sonja was so rude to leave the ladies outside. I would have left. She said the interns weren’t allowed to open the door because the dogs & cats would get out. How the heck do the interns get inside, or are they ever allowed out? And didn’t Ramona said she was allowed to go in and potty?
Does Bethenny aspire to be a standup comic? Her talking heads gives me the impression she has her one liners written for her. They sound like Rob, Sally and Buddy sent her a script.
“Rob, Sally and Buddy……” LOL How I loved that show.
I always wanted to be Laura when I grew up.
breelee: I have ALWAYS believed that Bethenny had a silent, shadow comic writing her one liners for her. NOBODY is that spontaneously witty, time in, time out. IMHO.
She used a lot of snarky one liners in her first season where she wasn’t really that rich or famous, so I suspect it is mostly just her quick wit.
I wish I was quick- witted like B. Johnny Carson had that ‘gift’ too.
I agree. She is very intelligent, and I think the one liners just come naturally to her. There is a link between intelligence and quick wit you know. 🙂
Does the job of “snatch guard” include making sure her clit does not leave her body?
Did anyone see the baby in the front seat if the limo before they pulled off? It was Bryn’s hair color. I feel like I’ve seen the kid in the corner of 3 Men And A Baby.
Oh lawd, I agree. I think it was Brynn, and the kid in 3 Men and a Baby? Awesome reference that.
Watched it again and it was a driver putting luggage in the back. Haha. Glad you got the 3 Men & a baby reference. That freaked me out for years.
Lol i LOVED that movie. Still have a major crush on Tom Selleck to this day. And as for that scene, didnt it turn out to be a cardboard standee for a fake movie one of the other guys was supposed to have done? I cant remember.
Having only watched the series starting with Scary island (therefore bypassing Bethenny’s heydey) and surviving the Aviva years, I am firmly in love with Heather and Carole. Remember, Bethenney aspired to be Martha Stewart, and it shows -take no prisoners, show no fear, exploit every opportunity.
Bethenney spots Heather as another Alpha Female and is acting rather Nene-ish toward her. Also, I think she sees Heather’s genuine friendships with Carole and Kristen as something to envy, since she doesn’t seem to have any close female friends.
Dorinda is the one to watch, though. She seems to not really care that she is on a show and to see through her eyes the really horrible behavior that we, the viewers, are used to and expect, is really fun.
Yes. I am Team Heather as well. Bethenny, while I’m sure she has a heart, has strained social skills. Makes me wonder how she does in meetings. Heather is much better at talking to people.
That is too funny. Anyone here remember when Sonja came on board? Remember Scary Island, how she got everyone to stop and realize that Kelly was not a well person? She was the voice the reason and sort of took care of Kelly. Flashback….when Dorinda was taking care of the silly and drunk Sonja. Which everyone thinks has lost her mind. This show needs some new writers. 🙂
Sonja is a sot…she lives too much in the past, she has never been able to get past her past. I still like Sonja, I still feel bad for her because she is so lost, but she’s not mean. Kim Richards was a mean bitch, she was acted vicious…Sonya is wounded and too sensitive. I think she needs some help too, not so much because of her addictions, but because she self medicates because she lost the world she wanted to live in, and hasn’t accepted it. I’m going to hang on to my hope for her a while longer. Her dress at the casino was kick ass though.
I disagree Sonja said some pretty vicious things about bethenney not having a family in her talking head.
Ding ding ding! I agree. Sonja has a serious drinking problem. She also seems to mix her many prescription pills with her over the top drinking. Like Kim Richards, she also has serious mental problems. That TH comment about Bethanny not having a family was not only shady, but just plain mean. Sonja, in my humble opinion is truly delusional. Her “family” is she and her daughter, just like Bethanny. Not only that, love her or hate her, Bethanny works her ass off, created a working, profitable business, and lives off her own money, not someone elses via alimony. Hard to feel sorry for someone who lives in a house she can’t afford, refuses to downsize, and refuses to get a real job to help pay her bills. In some ways, she is just as delusional as Teresa G from RHONJ
The Frozen reference given by Bethany was apt.
Anyone else feel like the Countess and Dorinda should get MAJOR props for being Sonja’s minders? With the akwardness of Sonja sloppily trying to make out with Luanne and the Countess playing it off laughing , and Dorinda calling her out on the Jon Jon bit…. those women just won me over
For some reason I can’t stand Dorinda. Her daughter is even worse.
Yeah, her daughter is kinda…… mean? Spoiled? I just camt wrap my ,ind around her, but Dorinda! She just didnt take any of Sonja’s namedropping BS, and for TJAT, I salute her. Otherwise, meh.
Michael,
I agree about Dorinda’s daughter. She seems unnatural and rehearsed when she speaks. However, I am warming up to Dorinda. She has a “no nonsense” attitude, and I like it.
Was it on purpose that you chose a HWofNY pic minus Ramona? 🙂
Actually, both Ramona and Sonja are missing from the pic. The other ladies were probably too tired to hold them up.
I think it is refreshing when you have a housewife like Bethenny who is frank/candid and doesn’t ‘pile on’ or collect ‘allies’ for her verbal stoushes. I can understand her verbose nature is probably annoying to a lot of viewers, but she is no where near as horrible as HWs like Brandi, Kim Richards, Nene, Tamra, the dark haired Miami HW who slapped the blonde model (can’t remember her name) etc.
Joanna.
Adriana deMoura. I’d have smacked the shit out of Joanna too if I were her.
Yeah both were pretty horrific. At least Joanna had a hot man I could perve on.
Sonja is hard to watch. I believe there is some mental illnesses going on in addition to addictions. I think again shame on Bravo for just taping her as a sloppy mess over and over but how can Sonja stand to be like that on tv? Isn’t her daughter 12 or so? How humiliating.
Yep. If Brandi Glanville wants an idea of what her life will be like 12 years from now, she can look to Sonja.
Oh, except Sonja has a much better plastic surgeon.
I have a neighbor that has mental illness and is an alcoholic. I also suspect pills. She will be totally delusional too saying her boyfriend is going to marry her, she just bought a boat and all of these huge lies. Its extremely steessful to wwatch. She also is constantly fighting with someone so there is drama. I try to keep my distance but one day after i spent maybe an hour with her she said i was her best friend. I dont get why her famiky does not get her help.
Sonja won’t allow the women in her house but has no problem letting a strange pirate in her back door. My guess, it’s a disaster → overflowing toilets, leaky faucets, clutter everywhere entangled in dog poop. You know, the run-of-the-mill house of a toaster oven queen, moonlighting as a burlesque dancer, who has a “Luxury Fashion Lifestyle Brand” & is a “Entrepreneur, Mother, Author, Producer, Performer, Entertainer, & Philanthropist”.
She’s also busy writing her biographical screenplay, “a la Candace Bushnell’s Sex in The City” + she’s currently producing a “multi-million dollar film starring Forest Whitaker” + don’t forget about the “Sonja in the City” parties she hosts!
Also her fashion & jewelry collection website is up & running (for pre-orders only) & she’s also has her podcast, personal website, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Tumbler, & personal newsletter where she “shares recipes, decorating tips, flower arrangements, travel tips, beauty and fashion advice”.
Sonja can be fun & she appears completely innocent, but MAN would she drive me crazy! I wouldn’t last 30 minutes with her. ⊙.☉
Lmao… Her toaster oven also seems to have sold out before it hit the shelves.
She reminds me of my mother (alcoholic). When they are that hammered, I have to agree with Bethany. She was like a four year old. You cannot communicate with them. It will drive YOU to drink. You can’t do anything but walk away.
This is hard for me to watch. In my childhood, I was Bethany and my mother was Sonja. Kim Richards too. That was my mother to a at
Booze and booze, or booze and pills, are just a disaster. I feel bad for Sonja’s daughter that this is on tv. 🙁
I really think the reason the women were not let in, is because of the shape of her home, too. Guessing the ‘interns’ are poor college kids that must sign some big amount (knowing Sonja) of secrecy papers that they will never talk about or post pics of her and her house. College kids are usually hard up so would be scared of being ‘sued’ so don’t cross the privacy line. I just think her house is a sty.
I can see her keeping the women out due to the condition of her home. It seems like anyone unraveling like she seems to be isn’t going to have a neat and organized home. Those interns can only do so much, and they may draw the line at scrubbing toilets.
New York is my favorite of all the housewives shows. I like the women on the show, even the very new Dorinda, and even Ramona, and I thought I would never like her. There isn’t the viciousness that is present on Atlanta, and for the most part, I think these women like each other. I am still getting used to Bethenny because she has hardened and is less tolerant. She seems self absorbed, but she showed kindness to Sonja. Unfortunately, I don’t think Sonja really did hear her.
Her name is Sonja she WAS a Morgan but that was many years ago and she refuses to let it go.
Delusional doesn’t even begin to describe Sonja…..She is looking so pathetic for trying to hang on to a life that clearly doesn’t want her anymore. Girl BYE!!!!!!
Did anyone notice the Skinny Girl products displayed in the suite when they arrived? It was a flash–but they were on a table. So funny! I read sales were down and that the shape wear line is gone. B is just one giant commercial. Pretty sad really, B may be her own worst enemy when it comes to PR for her product.
Girly, I agree. It’s too much. The shapewear was not good. (I also think Heather’s is less than stellar. It’s always on markdown at Nordstrom Rack… Lots and lots of it like 70% off).
It’s just overkill. Yeah, we get it. You own skinny girl. We should buy it. i think you are right… She’s her own worst enemy.
One small correction. Bethenny SOLD Skinny Girl and is now worth mega-millions. I don’t think that money is the answer to every problem, but it buys you lots of help.
SIGH. Bethenny did not sell Skinny Girl. She sold the skinny margarita.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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There has been prominent Skinny Girl product placement in every episode. I’m beginning to think it’s in her contract.
Peach: Bethenny sold the Skinny Girl liquor brand – she’s still on the payroll as a consultant/brand ambassador and does get compensated based on sales (which are down as noted above). She owns the nonalcoholic Skinny Girl products.
Have something from Yummie and its high quality, affordable and the site is easy to use and professional.
*it’s
Does anyone think Bethenny’s attempt to help Sonja might also be another form of self/commercial promotion of her new self-help/relationship book?
I wonder how delusional Sonja was when she was married. Is this really all from losing her marriage/lifestyle or was she in another word during her marriage and childhood? She seems like lots of fun but she wears me down watching. I can’t imagine living with her. Also, while she may have some emotional or psychological problems as well as a drinking problem, she is nowhere near the nastiness of Kim Richards and Brandi. She is damaged but not damaging.
yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head with that last bit. Sonja’s… clearly got problems but doesn’t seem mean spirited or nasty. Kim, however, is both an alcoholic and mean
TT, I really hope you got some rest. I had a fucked up day, too.
I really think Sonja has mental issues. I’m going to admit something VERY embarassing. I dated Harry, her ex, Aviva’s ex. It made me laugh so, so had seeing them together. A match made in heaven. I broke up with him when the final straw was HE KEPT BORROWING CASH (made up stories why he never had $… Cc stolen… Forgot wallet… Blah blah blah). The kicker was, he left me at the airport with a fake flight reservation (so: no flight, and me expected to buy a last minute $1k one way ticket th3 day after a major holiday). Lying that he’d bought it. He can’t make money (toaster oven — over and over), and his fam cut him off from his trust fund when he was young. He went ape shit and wasted a ton. He doesn’t get much. I only saw him bc I was in a bad separation, and we kept running into each other in NYC. I love his parents and sister. They are wonderful. I was such an idiot for giving him chance after chance.
I don’t mean to hijack this thread but damn, my point: those 2 are a match made in fucking heaven. I truly think poor Sonja has a mental sickness.
TT, please delete if you want. And have a great day 🙂 fuck those nasty commenters. Hopefully the worst (n) is gone for good.
Well, thank you for sharing that. Don’t be embarrassed!
Lol 🙂 thanks MariAnne. I’ve lived a colorful life to say the least.
I feel bad for Sonja’s daughter that her mother is ON TV like this.
Have a great day
Great story.
Interesting tea, Alexa. Surprised because I thought Harry was well off financially.
I cant help feeling bad for delusional Sonya. I think she got screwed in the divorce and had a bad lawyer. She should have gotten more money. He is a Morgan and they have a child. Also, I cant believe Sonya has to pay for that movie deal. Lost that suit too. Worst luck in court. I am kinda scared she will “accidentally” OD.
I know these story lines are loosely producer driven, but Sonja’s drunken delusional storyline is more troubling than the Kim Richards super sobriety storyline. I’m not sure why – maybe because Sonja often comes across as a broken little girl living on fantasy island.
It’s hard to root for Kim Richards because she’s so friggin’ mean. Sonja on the other hand is just as you described. Though she’s clearly delusional, she has a sweet innocence about her.
I agree. There are times when she looks so sad and vulnerable.
Just because Sonja is on a show and gives people an opportunity to promote their business through her does not make her a Public Relations expert. She has a platform that she rents out for clothes and free meals. She’s a joke and a bad one at that! Time for serious therapy. Her level of delusion isn’t cute….it’s really scary.
Im with Heather on most of this Bethany is a bitch.
Sonya was a regular girl from upstate New York who got lucky and married extremely well. She lived a charmed life for many years and when it was taken away she made several poor business decisions and has been spinning out of control ever since. The most heartbreaking part for me is that her daughter has a video record of her mother downward spiral.
I just wish Sonya had surrounded herself with intelligent, caring people in the early years after her divorce who could have helped her make smart financial decisions. I’m guessing she received enough in the settlement to ensure a comfortable future. Selling that house early on would have been key! oh and the last segment where Sonja said “Obviously Bethenny doesn’t have a caring family like me” is a crock of bullshit. It’s time to own it Sonja!
What Sal said.
In the early years (after her divorce) if Sonja’s anything like she is now – she wouldn’t have listened. Sonja dances to the beat of her own drum (& that beat is usually way off)! I imagine after her divorce she said “I’ll show them, I’ll show everybody, I can be a successful, wealthy woman on my own accord. I don’t need anyone’s help”.
Sonja remains a mystery to me. She’s been divorced longer than she was married. Surely she had to support herself prior to marrying Mr. Morgan. It’s almost like she thinks she is irrelevant without the Morgan lifestyle (the old one, not this odd new one), so she keeps reminding people of what she had, who she knew, etc. I find it hard to believe that what we are watching is all just an act for the show, and it’s too soon to go down another rehab route.
i am sure she did exactly that, she would show them. well she has, she has shown them she is a hot fucking mess
I don’t like Bethenney, but I did get the feeling that she was really trying to look out for Sonja – no doubts about that there. I think she realized (albeit, too late) that she needs to, like Heather said, change her delivery. She was really trying not to lose her shit after that dinner. Sonja can choose to do with it what she wants, but in a strange way, I thought it was nice to see Bethenney in this light. Putting everything else I don’t like about her aside, this one moment was great – and that’s what I like about this show. I share the same sentiments as another commenter above, this show has the fun elements, but the nastiness doesn’t last too long.
Barometric pressure affects me too! I get really sleepy when it’s the first cloudy/rainy day after a stretch of good weather.
Me too!
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Um…doesn’t the weather affect you more as you get older? “I can tell a storm’s a’comin’ when I get that crick in my back” Syndrome? 🙂
/ shoots XanaDude the teacher look
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hey, I claim with pride my “old man Spidey sense.” 🙂
I think Bethenny is a ruthless biotch, but I enjoy watching her because her I.Q. is so much higher than any one else, plus she really is very funny. I was touched by watching her sincere concern and compassion for Sonja and her very clear communication. I agree with Bethenny about Sonja that she is sweet and fun but I was taken aback by Sonja’s nasty response to Bethenny after Bethenny really reached out to her. Bethenny is not projecting Sonja! Plus to take such a shot at her for her family! I have a nasty, mean, jealous, vindictive Mother who I have no relationship with also. If you have a nice family, good for you. It’s pretty mean to add insult to injury.
There is no more toast in Sonja’s toaster oven. It’s almost like she has an organic brain syndrome type of thing going on caused by the alcohol.
LOL! No toast in the toaster oven. 🙂
Lmao!
Bethenny had me at Schtadt! Reminded me of Trading Places!
If I had to hear Ramonna announce it was her b-day to one more person I think I may have thrown up. What adult woman feels the need to tell everyone that over and over. It was like she was turning 5. Then Sonja is showing her va j j to all who will look. I have to admit even though I’m sure it’s production driven for effect I cannot stand to wait. If someone is more then 15 min late I will leave like a breeze thru the tree’s.
Folks…you are missing THE best part of the show. They were at dinner, talking about Luanne’s short hair and someone said ” it’s so European”. The best line was Carol’s, “She’s not European, she’s from Connecticut”. The look Lu gave her was pure eat shit. LOVED IT!
Nah, the best line of the night was from Demetra when she told Sonja that JKF JR was dead.
yeah, I loved that. “well, Jon Jon is dead, so that’s pretty hard to do”
That was very funny.
That scene at the club where Sonja was getting on Bethenny’s last nerve had me cracking up. That was hilarious. I know it’s serious for Sonja, but that whole interaction was so damn funny. In other news, Sonja needs serious help. These housewives are like a PSA for don’t drink/drug and Bravo.
BTW, can someone explain that thing Bethenny kept saying over and over? Something about Schtadt and updo or something? What does that mean?
“Smoky eye, updo, Gstaad” is my new mantra.
haha love it!
Thanks for clearing up if it was Schtadt or Gstaad.
Poor Sonja. I was curious about her former, married life. She keeps making it sound so glamorous, so I googled her today. She really does have a fashion and marketing background. While she was married she lived quite a privileged life – yachting life, skiing in Gstaad (okay, it all makes sense now!), homes around the world, running around with the high society crowd, No wonder she prefers to live in the past. She probably fears her future too much to face it. It’s really sad to watch her fall apart, and so publicly.
Fortunately Sonja’s surrounded by people who love & adore (& hopefully it stays that way). Otherwise I foresee Grey Gardens part deux.
My guess for why Bethenny hates Heather is that she has a very successful business and a happy home life, which Bethenny was unable to balance. She’s straight up jelly and I’m not one of those twits that use the jealous excuse for people not liking them. Personally, I don’t like either of them.
I’ve never liked Heather much, but I do respect her.
Heather is a bossy busy body. She means well but her choices usually get her involved in more than she needs to.
Now, are we glossing over the fact that Sonja’s intern refers to her as “The Lady Morgan?”
How did I miss that? Sorry, toots. We don’t do the Lord and Lady thing here.
I wouldn’t put it past Sonja to buy a title, to compete with the Princess and the Countess AND making her interns call her The Lady Morgan. UNLESS it was a bitchy gay kid who was being sarcastic. 🙂
Jeez, what is it with the royalty wannabees on the show? They are on the wrong side of the pond.
I much prefer the image of a bitchy gay kid being sarcastic 🙂