It looks like Kim may not have gone to rehab at all. I posted here that Kim was in rehab on April 25th. And according to TMZ she was. Then Kingsley was removed from her house. But I don’t know any rehab, fancypants or not who would let the patients go to a vape store three or so days in.
But according to the above Instagram, Kim was testing out vaping flavors on April 28th. So it would seem that Kim is not in rehab at all but in a sober living facility in Malibu. Remember when I pointed out that Dr. Phil Promoted the Sober Living house but not the Dual Diagnosis Rehab facility?
Alt any rate, with her hanging out in vape shops and chatting up Monty on line, all signs point to her simply being in a sober living house at the expense of Dr. Phil. I fully expect her to show up at Brooke’s Cabo wedding next weekend.
Sure looks like she is having a good time. Seems like that “bronchitis” cleared up. Thoughts?
Carry on;)
I thought she was in fake rehab. I still don’t think Dr. Phil is footing the bill. Also, this pic just confirms she isn’t, nor was she ever, serious about her sobriety.
Preach !
I completely agree that she is in sober living but I wonder if Dr. Phil is paying. At the time of taping he said that it was reported that she went to rehab. He promoted the sober living place maybe because he left the door open for her to go there, at the very least, maybe in the hopes that they will strongly encourage her to redo tx. She really sold herself short. Clearly the addict is still in control; sober living allows her to remain in denial that she still has a problem.
This is a ridiculous situation and I doubt it will be the last we hear of Kim getting into trouble. I just hope that she doesn’t take innocent people with her (DUI style).
I think people jumped to the conclusion that Dr. Phil was paying because he gave promotional consideration to Malibu Sober Living – just one of many treatment facilities on his website. Sober living facilities are so different from the dual diagnosis (diagnostic?) centers that he recommended. Kim knows the drill – she didn’t want to go to a serious facility because she isn’t serious about changing her lifestyle.
I was wondering too, after the Instagram shot. A good rehab won’t even let you wear your own clothes or wear makeup until you’ve earned the privileges, and social media would be completely out for weeks or even a month. It’s all part of having patients concentrate on their issues, rather than their outward presentation to others. The kissy-kissy Instagram shot is all wrong in so many ways — altering your appearance to look “the same,” playing to a camera rather than speaking truthfully about your progress, and spending any time at all designing a non-communication to placate others and “look okay” rather than working on actually BEING okay.
As dj j wrote earlier it was social media that caused her to drink in the 1st place! As usual when it comes to Kim Richards, it’s ALL BS.
I’ve never heard of a rehab taking away your clothes-only if you show up with a t-shirt with something lewd written on it or clothing that is too suggestive. Only the strictest rehabs take away make-up. They also go through all your personal hygiene products to make sure there’s no alcohol-I’ve had shampoo taken away. Fortunately I never had the urge to drink my Aveda shampoo.
Sober living facilities may or may not have detox options. The purpose of sober living is to help transition from treatment to independence. People living with addictions who have been to treatment will often go to sober living if they experienced a brief relapse whereby they realize that they made a mistake and they need support to quickly get back on to track. Sober living is not for addicts who believe that they have no issues and still glorify the addict behaviour. Dr. Phil suggested a dual dx facility because Kim needs treatment and needs to sort out exactly what her mental health needs are. She is manipulating her family and attempting to manipulate the public into thinking that she is getting help.
Exactly. Sober living is not a substitute for treatment. It is meant to transition from the strict environment of treatment back into life slowly, while still under supervision/drug testing, etc. I spent a year in sober living after 3 months inpatient and it saved my life. It will do nothing for you, though, if you haven’t done the work in treatment.
Kim is on a bad path and she is going to continue to hurt herself and the ones she loves until she levels with herself and gets fking real. Rehab and recovery is not “fun”, if it is, you’re not working hard enough.
Please Bravo, just fire her and Brandi from RHoBH. I don’t want to watch this any more. This kind of crazy hurts the brain. What a horrible photo. Posting that after all her kids have been through hell???
I agree 100% Lisamia! At this point, I don’t really care what happens to her. I will read any news, but keep her off RHOBH forever. I do not want any more of her lying ass face or stories. Even if she never did another drug or alcolol, I’m just done. Any ounce of concern I might dredge up is for her kids. They may be better off without a terrible mother. Kim sure did not put them first in her life of addiction and refusal to quit. She would not do the right thing when they begged her.
I think the importance of the second wedding to Kim is for her to have the opportunity to party and bask in the limelight of the mother of the bride role. Her life is all about her and her needs and wants, not her children’s.
But she’ll blame you for mentioning it or Instagram for allowing her to post this pic for her children’s pain instead of herself.
Yup. You said exactly what I was feeling when I looked at this photo. Sad.
I have absolutely zero fucks to give about this woman’s ‘plight’ any longer. And, I typically emphathize with addicts, but she done over stayed her welcome.
apparently they do detox there as well.
http://malibubeachsidesoberliving.com/sober-living/
however the first reports of her being in “rehab” were only 3 days before this photo at the vape shop. How long is detox?
Also, I think Kathy was likely the source for the TMZ rumor and she called it rehab. She wants us to think she is in rehab but KIM never met a camera she didn’t like.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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A man I know who has a drinking problem has detoxed several times. He said about 3-4 days for the really awful symptoms of detoxing, and about a week or so to really detox. If this photo was taken day 3, I call bullshit on the whole thing. This looks more like “pretend” rehab.
We don’t know when she went in, just when TMZ reported she was in. Dr. Phil seemed to question that she was in rehab at all. Now I know why. She took the sober living but not the rehab. Thus the plug for one but not the other.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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If she underwent medical detox, that would be at least 3 days under constant medical supervision, and I don’t think she would feel up to posing for selfies. I think she is biding her time in fake rehab, abstaining from alcohol so she can say she is clean. I don’t think she wants to deal with her other problems. I’m pretty sure if she went to the type of facility Dr. Phil recommended they would take her off all her prescription meds to see what she needs and responds to best. And that would have taken longer than 30 days (most likely 60 to 90). But what do I know. I’m not a doctor, just playing one one the internet.
Explain to me the difference between rehab and sober living?
What nerve she has to posefor this picture. She is so arrogant.
I hate that Kim’s charges are misdemeanors more than ever now and she can hide behind Kathy Hilton and her dream team of lawyers. Kim is going to skate with a fine at the most. Id love for her to sit in jail for a month and do the old fashioned detox by sweating out her drugs!
Yeah. Wreaking havoc on the show, and she’s smiling, puffing on an e-cig. Her dog/son Kingsley was taken away from her by the authorities, but she’s posing for selfies. Same dog/son mauled 2, maybe 3 people, one mauling having led to a pretty serious lawsuit in which her employer has been named along with her as the source of the plaintiff’s injury, but she’s yucking it up on IG. Nasty rift with the sibling that’s put up with her inexcusable behavior, both towards said sibling, relatives, friends and others, for 40 or so years, but she thinks it’s time to party. What should have been a humiliating public arrest at an establishment owned by her relatives, which led to a fiasco with her PR team scrambling to do damage control via a Dr. Phil pseudo-intervention, in which her own children are also thrown into the mix and subject to public scrutiny and additional emotional pain and humiliation, but she wants to look cool in a photo that she pretty well knows is going to be beamed almost immediately to her “fans” on social media. When does it end with this individual? Where is the shame?!
@Minky Wow — you nailed it! I think you expressed exactly how I feel about her demeanor in the photo in view of the events over the last several months. Well said.
Spot on, Minky! Thank you for saying everything I was thinking! In the Dr. Phil interview when she was listing all the things she has going against her with her sister, the lawsuit, etc., I realized she really thinks that she is just an incredibly unlucky victim and none of these problems are caused by her actions. I don’t think she is capable of feeling shame, or of admitting she’s done anything wrong. Unless, of course, it is too cover up a much bigger screw-up or to get everyone off her back and pretend she’s better.
I agree. I don’t care if Kim overdoses, dies, is in rehab, on vacation, in denial, etc. Just keep her off one of my favorite TV shows. She ruins it. That’s the only time her life effects me. Otherwise who cares. I’m only commenting in the hopes the universe reads comments and decides to keep her away from Bravo.
Yes, for Gd’s sake, please have this woman DIE rather than inconvenience your TV watching. Really? The jump there was just heartless and unnecessarily callous and cruel. Wish her well in her recovery and to take time off, and that you would prefer she not be in the show, but to say you would rather have her DIE than on TV is just crossing a line, not only as a commentor but as a human being.
What an idiot! Is she that delusional that she cannot comprehend what this photo says about her (alleged) attempts to become sober?? I thought you weren’t supposed to do anything that mimics using substances?
AND I thought that a sober living facility isn’t for people who haven’t gone through any sort of detox and behavioral therapy, and have already spent some time being sober. Wouldn’t she pose a risk to the sobriety of others who HAVE done the hard work?
Her poor kids. I cannot imagine them seeing this photo, probably after being alerted by friends. It makes me think of poor Kimberly talking about getting a text from a friend after Kim’s arrest.
Hopefully she has proven to Bravo that she cannot be trusted to do a darned thing to become sober, and remain that way. I am still trying to find sympathy for her, but this may have worn off the last of that emotion. I’m just disgusted with her entitled attitude. I guess truly working for sobriety is for those other suckers.
Yes. Sobriety is for poor people, who’ve got jobs and so on. Not for famous, rich people like her, who get a fat ass paycheck for being filmed going on vacation and having petty arguments with their “friends”. Like, yeah. Whatevers.
Vaping is a substitute for analog cigarettes for most people that do partake. Myself included. I quit smoking after 14 years due to vaping. There is nothing about it that is reminiscent of any drug other than nicotine. They don’t take your cigarettes away in rehab, so why would a vaping device be frowned upon? It’s a much healthier alternative. Kim however, I’m over her face as well as her butthole buddy Brandi. I wish they would go somewhere and quietly live out the remainder of their lives.
Unless the place has become a smoke-free facility. I work at a state psych facility in NC. We have a hospital, a rehab, and a PRTF on our campus. It will almost be a year that we went smoke-free. That was a lot of fun…telling psychotic people that they can’t smoke. So far, we still have a ban on e-cigs, but that could eventually change.
I think that’s such BS! Gotta love these rehabs facilities going completely smoke free taking away your cigarettes (& e-cigs) upon admittance & placing a patch on the smokers (+ no smoking anywhere on the premises). They’re all about encompassing the entire being – low or no sugar diets, the whole shebang but the overweight staff is administering help & meds. (Not saying that overweight, but I’ve seen it elsewhere).☺
I’m in full support of using vapes to quit smoking cigarettes but where I’m from (the Emerald triangle) vape pens are used exclusively for ingesting marijuana. People love using them because you can smoke anywhere (even the airport) & people assume you’re smoking tobacco. So my first thought when I saw that asinine photo was, “Kim is still smoking pot.” Irregardless, she definitely isn’t sober.
liquid pot? IDGI. And sorry about the delay on your blog for RPDR. I am swamped today with fucknuttery. I am trying to get to it tonight, but it might be tomorrow. So Sorry.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Tamara, you would be amazed at all the highfaluting ways people ingest pot these days. (and no worries on the recap…glad to know you got it) >
I’m sure I’m being dense … but even using a vapor system, wouldn’t the smell of pot be distinctive?
Nope (on both counts). The ones that use actual bud have an odor but most of the vapes that use oils don’t reek. It’s pretty amazing. I wouldn’t try it at an airport but lots of people “brag” that they have. >
The majority of airports in the US have made it so difficult to smoke by not having smoking areas or making you walk a mile outside. I’ve ended up missing a flight of 2 because of it. Prior to e-cigs, between flights I would walk into the closest ladies room, light up (behind a locked stall), take 2 or 3 very quick drags, flush it (all the while frantically waving the smoke down), then walk to my departing gate. Damn the devil for my habit, but thank god for e-cigs. ☺
What’s the going rate for product placement on the Dr. Phil Show?
He promotes many facilities. In turn for promotional consideration, they foot the bill for the folks he sends there. Think about it, it would be a huge invasion of privacy if he actually named the facility he was going to send Kim to.
She could very well be in Malibu Sober living, the one promoted on the show. I just don’t think she is there on Dr. Phil’s dime, since he knew that wasn’t what she needed.
That is why they brought in Dr. Phil, to get it for free.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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No it wouldn’t. He always introduces the people to the people giving the free services. Everyone knows where Joe A. Addict is going on Dr. Phils dime. He promoted the Sober living facility on Kim’s show, and then acted like he didn’t know where she was.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Maybe Bravo ought to add good rehab services to their housewives’ insurance coverage!
Dr. Phil said on the tonight show that he does not draw a salary for his t.v. show, that he just does it to “help” people because that is what he and Robin live for. How is this even possible? Pretty much every show he offers people free counseling, or whatever and always gives a big shout-out to the place, but still……………. Who works for free? I am pretty sure that he makes a deal with guests that they appear for free for his wonderful counseling and public shaming. But with Kim, he looked pissed. He wasn’t buying what she was selling, not for one second, he knows she said “fuc* Him”, and blah blah blah and stormed off before he could really have a fascinating interview. She was so disingenuous, she lied through her teeth, and she embarrassed her children. I hope he didn’t pay for her to go to some sober living place. That’s b.s. Because no doubt she takes many anti-depressant and anti-craving drugs, plus drugs for depression and anxiety. In addition to whatever her drug of choice is. Paying for her to go to sober living, when he knows she is not serious about getting sober is not a good treatment plan. I hope he withdrew his offer and did not cave into her Diva demands. I hope that he offered those poor kids free counseling & whatever, especially Chad who comes out of a mental hospital to this selfish woman’s garbage. Way to help him manage his depression and problems. I think she is an awful shell of a woman, who is so shallow, narcissistic and vain that she went to some joke of a sober living place to get the press, the courts and Bravo off her back. But, i think she is full of crap. If she bamboozled Dr. Phil into paying for her spa vacation where so gets to go out and visit smoke shops, and yack all day on the phone, he should turn in his degree in whatever it is. I know he is not a medical doctor.
Free rehab services for a guest.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Sober living is like any other living… I went to sober living after rehab and could come and go as I wished, as long as I was in by 11pm.. There’s usually curfews, but sober living is usually pretty lax. It’s one step below inpatient rehab.
But did you go straight into sober living?
And congratulations on doing it!
Opps, missed the “rehab” part!
I did… The rehab I was (in PA) had a driver take me straight to sober living (in Manassas VA) and thank you!!
Kim has been to REHAB at least four times. Wouldn’t sober living be a happy medium if she refused to go again? This facility has detox and everything.
And NO to the commenter who was deleted. Clearly you don’t understand the rules.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m not saying this to blow my own horn, only to show that it has to be the person’s choice. I went to an AA meeting on July 31, 1987 and have been clean and sober ever since. I’d been up for three days on a bender, was yelled at for parking in the wrong place, and still went into a completely packed meeting as it was an anniversary meeting. To this day, I say that some higher force was with me as I was done with that life. I would have crawled over hot coals completely naked to get help for my addiction. It really has to come from within. As the old saying goes, “you can get sober on an island full of drunks or get drunk on an island full of sober people. It’s up to you.” Blessed, blessed, blessed…
Hey, you deserve to toot your own horn!
Good for you. I know it couldn’t have been easy. TOOT TOOT away!
PJS, anyone who did rehab and is still clean deserves to toot their own. Congrats!
Go ahead and blow it, PJS, and good for you.
Congratulations to you both PJS and Jess.
Congrats, Jess!
Don’t they also do drug tests whenever you return to the facility after being out? Sober living is for sober people who want to be surrounded by other sober people..not deniers who are pretending to be sober. She is probably a danger to the sobriety of everyone living there and should have been in rehab for at least three to six months. It’s like going to medical rehab for surgical patients but not having the surgery first. Ridiculous, fake and a horrible example to other people who truly want help with their addictions. I am NOT watching Kim on any show because I have no respect for her and I don’t want to feel depressed when watching television. I watch to get my mind off of my own personal situation; not to be angered and disgusted.
I was watching a rerun the other day where Kyle was visiting Kim & saw an electronic cigarette. When she asked about it, Kim responded (paraphrasing) “oh that thing / it’s a gag for a Halloween costume / I thought it was funny / you know I don’t smoke”.
More lies. You know she smokes. I bet a lot of the Wives smoke, just never on camera.
Can someone explain to me what “vaping” is? And are electric cigarettes out for sober people because they mimic smoking, or do you actually get a high from them?
“Vaping” is puffing on an electronic cigarette & many places don’t allow them because their effects on others aren’t known yet. You know the 2nd hand smoke (or vape) & all!
There is no smoke involved with e-cigs. People who ban them are fucking morons. It’s water vapor just like exhaling. Jesus.
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’ve pulled out my e-cig at places that don’t allow smoking & was told “put it away or leave”! I was thrilled when they came out & figured great, I can vape on long flights → Nope! Airlines have banned them due to “no studies have been conducted on the long-term effects of e-smoking, and it’s not fair to subject non-smoking passengers to the unknown effects of e-cigarettes.” (i.e. water vapor). ⊙.☉
Vaping is just smoking an electronic cigarette. E-cigs don’t have actual tobacco, but just a liquid that’s got nicotine in it, which is contained in a small reservoir in the “filter” part of the e-cig. It’s battery operated and with the refillable models you have to recharge it, and either buy new nicotine liquid filters, or refill the filters your self with the nicotine liquid.
There are also disposable e-cigs that you just smoke and discard. Those don’t have to get recharged, and each one lasts about as long as 2 packs of cigarettes would. They’re expensive though, about $8 for one disposable e-cig, but cheaper than 2 packs of real cigarettes.
It’s called “vaping” because you’re inhaling and puffing out vapor, rather than smoke. The nicotine liquid is vaporized by the battery powered heat source in the body of the e-cig. Ha ha! This is all very complicated. E-cigs can either “taste” like real tobacco or are flavored with fruit, vanilla, chocolate, etc. I’ve never tried one, but I’ve heard that they’re not nearly as satisfying as smoking a real cigarette.
Some doctors actually recommend them for people who are genetically prone to alzheimer’s disease because nicotine helps the mind stay sharp. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
Shit. Look how much I wrote. I hope I answered your question though.
Los Angeles, California is blanketed by an expansive, dirty, brown cloud of smog, generated mostly by the automobile traffic on L.A.’s heinous freeway system, which is visible from an airplane and so thick you can’t even see the city hidden underneath it. So, it’s okay for millions of people to breath in that, but not e-cig vapor, or 2nd hand smoke in an outdoor area for that matter. Okay. Sure. Got it.
Some sober livings are up to $10k a month… Some ladies I was in treatment with (marworth treatment center in waverly PA) were looking into sober living in NYC and they were upwards $10k a month for in soho.
Just wanted to say congratulations! You should be very proud.
Rarely do I have dislike for anyone, but that Kim Richards is a piece of work. Right now she will do the minimum of what is required to try to save her job and look better in the eyes of the court. I used to feel sorry for her but she lost me with all that vicious behavior.
I seriously doubt she still has a job on RHOBH. MAYBE friend of if she is doing better. But doubtful.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I hope you are right, TT. This is your boyfriend Andy we are talking about..
From your lips to Andys ears! I see her giving a biggo one on one when she gets out, then will begin the manipulative ‘RHOBH saved my life” bullshit she does. She’s a STAHHHH!
LOL!
If she comes back, I can forsee that happening @Binga. Andy is a ratings and money guy. He could give two shits about most of these HWs (unless your name Bethenny and maybe lesser degree Nene). One should had known by the end of her Dr Phil interview Kim was all like “I need to go away for a little bit and recharge.” She was devising her plan then in her head how she wasnt going to rehab let alone to the one in Texas. Kim is anything but clever and slick at this point. The family must think sober living is the real deal too. Sad but it is what it is now.
She’s overestimating the audience’s sympathy for “reformed” addicts, and underestimating how many people have been on the receiving end of just the sort of vicious attacks we saw her make on Kyle, Lisa R. And Eileen at the hands of addicts in their own lives. And we’ve already been through one “sympathy” rehab for Kim. Now she can get lost and do whatever she wants without playing on our sympathies or those of her family and ℅-workers.
Continued lack of seriousness about what she has put her family through — that photo is a joke, just like her rehab.
Im starting to believe she never went which wouldn’t be some great shock. Either way I hope shes done at RHOBH. Over this faux sobriety storyline.
I’m not saying this to blow my own horn, only to show that it has to be the person’s choice. I went to an AA meeting on July 31, 1987 and have been clean and sober ever since. I’d been up for three days on a bender, was yelled at for parking in the wrong place, and still went into a completely packed meeting as it was an anniversary meeting. To this day, I say that some higher force was with me as I was done with that life. I would have crawled over hot coals completely naked to get help for my addiction. It really has to come from within. As the old saying goes, “you can get sober on an island full of drunks or get drunk on an island full of sober people. It’s up to you.” Blessed, blessed, blessed…
Because of her actions I dont care if it’s rehab, sober living or any other help for drinking/drugs etc., Kim did not seem ready to admit she has a problem, I can’t help but think this is damaged control and nothing will change. Yes my cup is half empty on this one, sorry!
I totally agree. Not unlike her last stint in rehab, this is nothing but damage control. She’s not ready / hasn’t hit her bottom yet.
Exactly!
Sometimes the bast way to help someone is to not help at all. Her family has probably had enough. Her kids seem nice, you know, in spite of everything. She needs to be left alone. All of this attention is just making it worse.
She has not even committed to step one! Admitted she was powerless over her addiction and turned to God for help (I’m paraphrasing, don’t know the exact words.” She just had a shot of vodka! And the mean police and Maitre D’ made a big thing out of nothing! Isn’t sober living for people that have worked the steps with a sponsor and are ready to give sober living a shot?
Well let’s mark our calendars… so all that crap Monty was saying on IG was a lie. Well no surprise. This family will continue to enable and cover for Kim. Im done with it.
What did Monty lie about?
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Didnt have he an IG post a few days ago saying Kim was doing great. I forget if said he rehab or not. But I just feel these people, Kim being the star of this, are putting on show and front. I can just never trust anything in regards to sobriety and rehab anymore when it comes to Kim. Those days are all but over.
Maybe about moving in and living with Kim. Maybe about being responsible for her relapse that wasn’t a relapse.
It could very well be that she is still sitting in the Polo Lounge.
Nah clearly she is in Malibu. With access to a vape store.
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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This is disgusting..Tamara you rock..so now she has access to social media and this..aswesome..just in time for mother’s day
and she used social media as the excuse for her last bender.
and Kim applied a healthy slap to all of our faces..I hope she does not take the contract for RHBH..watching her stagger/slouch/slur all over the place was depressing.
Kim needs to stay home and look after herself
Apparently she doesn’t have problem writing on social media – it’s the reading that pushes her over the edge.☺
Well look who the cat dragged in, Hi Samael!
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hey there.Tamara ..you’re exclusives rock!
@addie2u her bottom must really be low if from what we’ve seen isn’t it.
TT if say Allegedly and that it’s all a joke won’t keep me from having my ass sued, feel free to delete lol.
Just looks to me like she got one of the newer hardcore chode ecigs in exchange for the promotional pic – they’re easily a few hundred bucks.
NOTHING can get in the way of housewives shilling for free shit.
I didn’t think she would last in rehab more than a week and allegedly she hasn’t. Because, allegedly, she never went! She thinks she doesn’t have a problem. So what changes for her when she gets home? Nothing. I hope Kyle remains far away from her until Kim actually gets sober not just dry.
hey @Hannah dont forget shes still 3.5 yrs sober
LMAO, hannahkingrose!!
Right..they give the nicoderm patches in many rehabs now.
Many rehabs (including here in RI) state “the primary focus of rehab is to encourage & empower the person from using ALL illicit substances”.
Not surprising studies have found at 100% smoke-free facilities –The percentage of patients who completed their program decreased nearly in half + the average number of days that patients remained in the program dropped by nearly 2 weeks. The insurance companies win again!
ETA: Ironically nearly equally, it was smokers & nonsmokers who didn’t finish the program / left early. Guess it’s hell living with someone who is forced to quit smoking. 😉
Next she will be found staggering down Pacific Coast Highway swigging from a bottle of Unfiltered Blonde singing “I love turtles”
Because she is working on her sobriety.
Maisey: I must be a terrible person. Your comment had me laughing so hard I fell off my chair.
Passing out free used vide cassettes of “Escape From Witch Mountain,” and offering to autograph them for bewildered millennialist who don’t know who the hell she is.
Good one! And of course there will be the requisite phone call to TMZ so it can all be captured on video. Probably set up by Brandi – free advertising for the wine line.
The vape shop is 11.9 miles from Malibu Sober Living- on CA-1
(Pacific coast highway)
Unrelated– someone is footing Kim Richards’ vacay:
Bravo
Phil
Sister Kathy
My theory:
Kathy’s legal team chose Phil over Bravo. Phil gets the follow up interview, but “the purer the victims’ guilt- the dirtier the hangman’s hands.”
Phil did a super job with Kim on TV. I was surprised! Nicely. However, if my theory is correct- Phil is an ass. A pompous ass.
TT. You asked about detox. Kim would have a easy detox. It would be nothing to give up alcohol. Her body is getting plenty of CNS depressants with the benzos she takes.
If she had gone into rehab, a real one, they’d take her off every dang one of her (controlled) meds. Xanax (benzo) detox ain’t easy. Or fast. Kim has been on them for decades too.
There is one little sentence in the A/A and N/A preamble that will indicate when any user is ready to recover —
“If you’ve decided to get sober and ate ***** willing to go to any length….*****
No negotiations. Not even a FIRST wedding.
At risk of being stoned here (I’m not referring to the marihuana maintenance plan;) – A/A isn’t the only answer but it has some basic premises to LIve by. (I do not believe addiction is a disease. I don’t care what Silkworth says)
But it starts with “willing to go to any length”
Marijuana maintenance plan?
I’m sick of this bitch.
I’m with Twilly. I’m done with this bish.
This photo is a slap in the face to her kids and her family who are concerned for her sobriety. If that was my Mom, I would be furious. I despise Kim and everything about her life that Bravo shoves down my throat. I don’t give one damn if she lives or dies. She is a huge strain and stress on everyone else.
I agree with everything you said, except the live or die comment. That’s pretty harsh.
I remember the infamous car ride with Rinna where Kim said Monty was gone for two weeks. How could Monty have given her the pain pill and told her to take it if he wasnt there? So I wonder what Kim took that made her so out of it? Didnt Monty confirm on twitter that he gave her the pain pill??
As I recall, she said he had just gotten back that day from one of his frequent walk abouts and gave her the pill.
Thanks, Tootsie!
Monty is lying through his teeth to parrot whatever story Kim was selling at the time.
Kim’s sober chaperone needs to be prepared for the litany of moods Kim will be inflicting at the wedding!
Well, she got what she wanted. 30 days to play around and “recharge” close to home with the ability to go to Brooke’s 2nd wedding. I wonder if Kingsley will be the ring bearer. I think I’m bored with this topic now.
@Minky “Yeah. Wreaking havoc on the show, and she’s smiling, puffing on an e-cig. Her dog/son Kingsley was taken away from her by the authorities, but she’s posing for selfies.”
Well said!
Anyone who wants to be clean starts with eliminating nicotine. It is harder to quit than heroin. Also Kim still gets “happy pills”. A drug that tricks your brain. Xanex for anxiety. Kim will never be clean. Next
Please, every addict in recovery I know smokes like a freight train and drinks 50 cups of coffee a day. They can smoke in rehab.
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Oh i know they can smoke in rehab, nonetheless its the most dangerous drug out there and the hardest to quit. IMO your not clean if your a smoker and the smell of a smoker isnt pleasant. A drug is a drug, legal doesnt make it alright, just acceptable cause you know if its legal, its ok.
Yes, I get it. Bashing smokers has been the new black for about 10 years now.
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And that’s why I believe Kim was embarrassed to admit to the viewers she smoked (re the e-cig Kyle found in her home). She didn’t want to admit she was a filthy, disgusting smoker (like myself)!☺
Nowadays, many rehab facilities are smoke free. That was a big deal when Lindsay Lohen had to go to court ordered rehab because she wanted to go to a facility that allowed smoking.
The largest rehab facility here became smoke free several years ago + no smoking anywhere on the premises. Because of this, people are refusing to go. If you’re a smoker, upon admittance you get a nicotine patch placed on you.
My issue isn’t with the fact that she’s probably a smoker, but that she lies about it. Her demeanor in the photo really bugs me for some reason. It’s a little too “devil may care” for my taste, especially in light of this past year’s events that she either mismanaged or are directly her fault.
Hey, we all need a little chemical help every now and again. Caffeine, nicotine, a drink (for those who don’t have a problem with alcohol), a hearty carb and fat laden meal, etc. That’s fine. But don’t lie about it! Be you. Don’t make every single aspect of your life a fraud. Be ashamed of the big things, like getting arrested and being irresponsible and hurting the people who love you, not the little things, like enjoying some tobacco, food or sex. Jeepers!
Every detox facility, rehab, and sober living center I know allows smoking and coffee.
Thank you. Xanadude. No rehab in the south would stay open without cigarettes and coffee.
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My dad died in his 80s with over 30 years of sobriety. I never was a drinker or smoker, but I used to go to meetings and parties with him. Loved the message and the people. There was always plenty of cookies and donuts and no one was told they couldn’t smoke. My dad died of lung cancer–pipe smoker–but he died sober, at peace, and knowing he was loved by his many friends and family. When smoking and eating a lot of sugar was discussed in the meetings, they would say one addiction at a time. Yeah, the pipe eventually killed him, but drinking would have taken him a lot sooner and he probably would have died alone in some alley some where.
A friend of mine was in a rehab that did not allow smoking but would give out nicotine patches to anyone who wanted them.
Minky: I agree with your comment above. Although I don’t wish Kim any ill will, I personally don’t care if she smokes, drinks, does drugs, or screws the pooch. I just don’t understand the continual deception and pretense. The selfies above undermine what she wants us to believe she is trying to accomplish.
To hell with rehab – Kim should still be in detox.
The process (for real average people) is Detox (usually in a medical facility but always with actual doctors), Rehab (30/60/90 days with councelors and treatment), Sober Living House (which is supposed to transition you to the real world again using the tools you learned in Rehab). Detox is not Rehab. and skipping Rehab is not something to take lightly – like taking a test without reading the assigned texts and taking notes.
Wow, Kim is so afraid of rehab. I know I should feel sympathy, but when she does stuff like this it makes me hate her. She’s making a mockery of sobriety, honesty, family, any lasting redeeming value. I bet she’s happy.Anything’s better than rehab, right Kim?
Kim Richards has pissed off everybody- fans and non-fans. Not one of us can stand to watch kim who cannot say “Sorry.” Ever. All of us are either addicted or know someone who is addicted. Addicts all over the world are calling BS on Kim Richards. Normies are calling BS on Kim Richards.
Kim Richards — Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to a simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. They are not at fault. They were born that way. (Essence of the pre-steps to getting well, Kimmers)
Honesty. Rigorous honesty, Kim.
I remember when you could smoke anywhere – airports, airplanes, hospitals, offices, bars. *sigh* the good old days.
Though I do miss smoking on flights I don’t miss the smell of stale smoke on the planes. Now we just get to smell our fellow passengers & hope they’ve showered. 😉 Remember when malls (especially shoe stores) all had ashtrays for their customers!
Oh right! How could I forget that? I have to admit, I would rather smell stale smoke than stinky BO.
The conditions of sober living facilities are not universal- some are lax, some are incredibly strict. They are not governed by any one standard, it’s the policies of the group or person who runs it. Mine was incredibly strict, required meetings daily, you had to work or attend 2 meetings daily, breathalyzer nightly, 3 random drug tests a week, chores, you had to have a sponsor, be working eteps, etc. You were allowed to come and go as you pleased, but there was curfew and you had obligations to meet, if you didn’t, privileges were revoked. If you tested positive, you were off the property immediately into detox or another facility. In other places I saw, there were virtually no rules and they weren’t very safe environments. So, it’s not a very good environment for someone who doesn’t seem to grasp the severity of their problem, is riddled with entitlement, demands, and resentments like Kim. It won’t help because she skipped all the pre-requisite work.
Kim Richards, her sister Kathy, BRAVO and Andy Cohen are making a mockery of this incredibly serious situation and everyone, including her fellow cast members on RHOBH, that have had to work with Kim or view her antics on the show. A mockery of addiction, addicts, programs to help addicts, those individuals that are/were sincerely concerned for this bitch’s health and well being, those fellow cast members that have to endure this coddled, spoiled, delusional twit’s vile and inexcusable behavior, etc., etc. To learn she’s NOT in rehab but in a ‘sober living’ facility, flitting about hither and yon visiting e-cigarette stores and God only knows what else, that she can come and go as she pleases is infuriating. The joke is on all of us that have watched this program, the individual’s who write about RHOBH, the advertiser’s and on and on it goes. DONE with BRAVO and everything it produces.
TT- excellent reporting! Thanks much!!
It is amazing to see how many are prepared to lie for her/allow her to lie to herself. Where are her doctors,. who must realize that now that her dependencies on drugs, patches, and her abuse of alcohol and pills have been outed , and she has been arrested-they must be/should be deeply concerned about their malpractice liability issues!!
let alone Kathy and the Hilton money being utilized to cover for her while she continues to pretend to be sober- their liability in the event of an accident with loss of life/serous injury could be through the roof!!
Anyone who truly loves her needs to help her get into a true recovery program. I understand all the comments above about her need to believe it and be ready for it- but this is absurd.
If she hadn’t gotten arrested for drunk and disorderly, Kim Richards would still be drinking in private, popping pills and smoking weed. She’s not in recovery and has had some kind of giant gall claiming that she’s “worked hard on her sobriety for Three years !” She’s going through the motions, just to appease the public and maybe keep her job at rhobh. The second she’s able, she’ll be drinking and drugging again. She’ll just try to be more cautious about getting caught again. She’s what is termed a “hopeless addict” in my honest opinion. She has no apparent desire to be sober- just a desire to not get caught. I can’t help but feel sorry for her and as well, anyone who loves her and has to watch her crumble and deteriorate.
Personally I’d love to know where all these people are Kim claims she’s helping. She states other addicts have been following her struggle (or lack of) & know they too can succeed. Clearly they’re the same people who believe she’s been completely sober for 3+ years she’s just got shitty luck!
After all who wouldn’t take “1 pain pill” for excruciating, debilitating pain & have 1 little drinky winky after reading nasty messages about themselves on social media. It’s not her fault, damn it! ⊙.☉
I’ve heard of places that don’t allow you caffeine/sugar/nicotine but only second hand. It’s true, most people in recovery smoke like chimneys lol and love their coffee- facilities allow it. I remember being blown away when I heard some places don’t allow sugar. that’s a bridge too damn far for me. I can’t imagine.
I have GOT the new ad campaign for Bravo. It’s one photograph of Teresa Guidice in full hair and make up wearing her prison uniform alongside a discheveled Kim Richards, messy hair with black roots, face streaked with black mascara, the demonic expression she had in the limo with Lisa Rinna, a “coffee mug” in one hand and pills in the other, standing behind a spread of lots of Teresa’s cooked “recipes” and a bottle of vodka surrounded by prescription bottles, some standing and some knocked over and spilling pills, and underneath this, in extra large captions, “GOT TABLES? BRAVO ENABLES.”
A mottled oxblood-colored background in which a full frontal snarling Kingsley holds a frantic-looking Giggy by the ermine collar of his smoking jacket
Love it!
As Giggy struggles to free himself. Caption at bottom: “BRAVO. OH YES WE DID!”