This is a Tamara Tattles Exclusive..Please give appropriate links, etc.
If you are a frequent reader of Tamara Tattles you know that a commenter here has close ties with Kim Richards neighbors. Kingsley was removed from the house by animal control on Saturday, the same day Kim went to Rehab
If he hasn’t already been put down he will be another victim of Kim Richards.
Lisa Vanderpump has me blocked. Presumably over my accurate reporting of this court case. But all you California folks if you know a pit bull savior, ask them to go get Kingsley. Or as LVP. Ask someone…..
#SaveKingsley
TT, thank you for this post.
Pit bulls and Parolees lady was in Sth. California until she was run out of the state. Most Pit Bull rescues are full and under funded. Unless the Hiltons step up with money I don’t have much faith in Kingsly being saved.
He won’t pass the good behavior tests to be adopted out.
It’s disgusting how this breed is treated.
Did you see the pictures on the lawsuit!!???? Just that alone would get that animal put down in my city.
If the lawsuit is true, that animal is a danger to humans. Sadly, Kingsley is exactly the example of why pits are treated the way they are. This is why they aren’t covered on insurance. This is why you can’t have them in apartment complexes. Don’t take on this breed if you can’t handle it.
Exactly right! I feel so bad for this dog. It was mistreated and mishandled from the beginning. Such a horrible waste. Fuck you to Hell Kim Richards for the vast path of destruction you are leaving in your wake. Even without her addiction issues she is still a horrible human being.
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On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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**I’m duplicating here but if the woman who has family on that street (Lisa M) wants to participate, below is a suggestion I made earlier. Also, I think that suggestion to Tweet LVP is an excellent idea — if people put their heads together, and quickly, something can hopefully help Kingsley**
Animal control will likely never find Kingsley a better home. They’re not in that line of business.
LISA M – you’re in the area & sound totally aware of the dog-scene. Do you know of any good breeder / trainer orgs in your area that you could ping or alert them about Kingsley? At least, once it’s confirmed that he was taken and who is holding him? Often times pet orgs will jump in for these pet-at-risk publicity situations.
Great idea!
What about tweeting Cesar Milan? I’m not current on him but does he may know resources for pitbull rescue in Ca. Another thought is Tia Torres from the Pitbull & Parolees show which was located in Ca before relocating to New Orleans.
I totally agree with Tia Torres. She’s willing to travel to help save pit bulls.
Hopefully someone will step in snd save this dog. Heis a reflection of how unstable Kim is and was. The dog is really a victim here. Almost all of the Michael Vick dogs were rehabilitated and most are now in loving homes. He needs to be evaluated. A no kill shelter would be wonderful. The person I got my Pit from who did rescues but CA made it difficult for her and she left the state. Can someone contact Ceasar Milan? Also Tia Torres, she’s in New Orleans now.
Nice people on here. Huge hearts and compassion abounds. It was nice to come here first thing in the am and read all of these comments.
Yeah, somebody save Kingsley. It’s not his fault one of the most irresponsible people in the universe picked him to be his human. He had no say in the matter, if he had he would have picked Cesar Millan and then he wouldn’t be in this pickle. It’s all Kim’s fault.
All kidding aside, I feel really bad for Kingsley. I am a serious animal lover and hope that he can be retrained and saved.
Has anyone tried that lady from Pitbulls and Parolees? Her name is Tia Torres & she has a show on Animal Planet. She rescues Pitbulls.
He needs a place like that. That dog is already set in his ways. I just have to look at him to get the chills. If there is such a place for dogs that cannot be rehabilitated, I hope they take him. He can be treated with the utmost kindness and expert training and there will never a safe place to re-home him. People, who can reason, change and think things through can be rehabilited. It only takes 2 sec. out of this dogs life-span for him to revert back to violent behavior. A lot of people blame the trainer kicking the dog, what was the guy supposed to do? Rub barbeque sauce all over himself? I just don’t know what kind of life he would have living in a pen waiting for his daily walk. Get your tomatoes ready……… Do I feel sorry for Kim? Yes I do. She genuinely loved Kingsley. Nothing that has happened to Kingsley up to this point is his fault, per se. But he is grown. I’m not sure that he can be properly domesticated. It sure would be nice if The Dog Whisperer took him. He may be the only guy around that can make a difference with that dog. It would be great if he became part of his dog pack. Are you listening, Cesar? However, we don’t know what the exact law is in that state with a dog like Kingsley. I am sure someone can find out. Still, I fear Kingsley’s prospects are dim.
Gessiewtf,
Any dog can be rehabilitated and be safe. It’s happened many times, just look up Michael Vicks dogs and see how they turned out and they were fighting dogs.
I’m not a huge fan of Cesar Milan, Victoria Stillwell is a much better trainer, IMO, and there are places like Best Friends Animal Society that specialize in dogs like Kingsley.
She is no longer in Los Angeles.
Hi Gingersnap
I so totally agree with you, thank you for putting it into words. I pray Kingsley can be saved.
I live in San Diego County, California. The policy of the county prosecutor’s here is the following: After the first time your dog bites someone, you must plead guilty for the dog’s behavior. The second time that your dog bites someone, the penalty is another guilty plea and the dog must be destroyed. I must confess that I do not know the policy of the county of Los Angeles, but I find it difficult to believe that it would be too much different from San Diego. Kingsley has bitten more than two people. He may be destroyed.
Los Angeles Policy: Dog bites are considered strict liability, you, the owner are responsible for the dog, no matter what the circumstances are. With that said, usually the first bite is “free.” which means the dog & owner can survive the bite, but if is was an all out vicious attack they will not give it back. A second bite will usually get the dog put down. Does anyone know what shelter he is at? I do not know where Kim lives, but if I can get a general area I can find out what Kingsley’s status is.
This makes me sick to my stomach. If Kim wants to be a drunk with no responsibilities, then why have 4 children and adopt a pet that requires care and supervision? This poor dog never had a chance with her, and with the right owner, he may have thrived and had a calm, happy life. This, the harm to the bite victims, and the pain to her family are ALL Kim’s fault. She is ruining lives left and right, and it is disgusting. If you can’t be responsible, don’t have children or pets, and live your selfish life as you please. She keeps crying that she is ashamed, but she should be. As Adrienne Maloof would say, “Shame on you!!”
I am an animal lover as well. have two goldens. but they do not come
before humans being attacked. we know of two; both seriously hurt, but
how many other attacks is kim hiding? only say this because kim has
blown off both attacks, as nothing serious. that is a problem.
I think theres an issue with this dog. He is dangerous and thats just how it is. Some people are as well. Kim of course is irresponsable so she just wants what she wants and failed to protect others. But this dog is a time bomb and gives me the chills. I think he could only make it with someone who is allways vilgent strict and keeps him locked up or m uzzeled when anyone is around. Not something I would ever want to sign up for. I also say what the hell was that trainer supposed to do? He protected himself. Was he supposed to sacrifice himself. Kim is a moron and a nasty one at that to keep a dog who acted like that when she has a family shes too drunk to take care of.
Thank You Tamara for picking up this #savekingsley and running with it. I loved your story about Banjo and think his devotion to his crate is kinda cute. He must feel safe and cozy under the tv =)
I don’t use Twitter and am unsure how it works, but can someone tweet out something to LVP re Kingsley? I have heard she is active on Twitter regarding rescuing dogs. Who know – maybe she can help. She surely has a lot of contacts.
Oh sorry. The prior comments didn’t show up at first on my device and I wasn’t aware someone had already posted the suggestion.
Cesar Milan is the obvious choice. Not being snarky, but he has the expertise and I would, frankly, watch a series of shows about how to retrain a vicious pit bull. I’m sure extra safety measures need to be taken and I’d really like to hear what Cesar has to say about it.
Hmm…I wouldn’t want to be anywhere neat that dog.
Pit bulls can be retrained. All the pits seized from Michael Vick, except for 2, were retrained and rehomed with family’s, one even became a therapy dog and visited hospitals, nursing home and schools.
My sister is very active with pit bull rescues. I’m going to send her Kingsleys info and see to she what she can do. She doesn’t train pits herself but she’s helped rehome dozens of dogs in need.
That’s great brillke, please do send her the info as soon as possible. I want so much for Kingsley to be saved and put in a positive environment so he can live a good, decent, happy life. Thank you so much.
Awesome idea Brillke.
Brillke – Sounds like you and I read the same article!! It was such a great story, given what those dogs came from. Great idea to reach out to your sis.
It’s not too late for Kingsley! He can still be properly trained with the right trainer.
Tamara Tattles to the rescue! We can’t do anything to help Kim’s kids or her family but hopefully we can save Kingsley. It’s not his fault he’s the way he is but he can be rehabilitated. #SaveKingsley
Email sent to Cesar. Outside shot, I’m why not try?
Good job, Rebel…nothing ventured nothing gained. Wouldn’t it be cool if he actually responded and took on Kingsley? Maybe we should all email him. Where did you get his email from and I’ll email him too.
Think of the show potential :Saving Kingsley. If they did retrain him the next challenge would be keeping Kim away from him and his new family.
Good idea to email Cesar. The more emails the better to get his attention. Perhaps he has a resource if he can’t help. #savekingsley I’m in!
Great idea – he has a contacts page, I just googled it. It’s so worth a try, since Animal Control has it’s own rules and guidelines, time is of the essence.
Ugh … just saw a news article while googling him that he was sued two month ago because a pit bull – maybe released prematurely from training – mauled someone. I hope that doesn’t make him shy away from Kingsley!
oooff – yuck. Didn’t see that story on him but certainly had trouble with his site.
In addition to Cesar, I found 2 Pitbull rescue non-profits in the Bev Hills / LA area and emailed them too. What will TT wake up to on Monday … will Banjo take a liking to Kingsley? hehe
That’s such a great idea. I’m sure he’s heard of the Kim saga and may step in to help her poor dog. I’ll go to his contact info and email him too.
Cesar is probably more scared of Kim Richards!
You miss 100% of shots you don’t take! It’s worth a shot. Save poor Kingsley.
I just sent a request to a California Pit Rescue regarding Kingsley. Don’t know if it will do any good but it might. Someone there might just be a fan of RHOBH and know about Kim and Kingsley,
I’ve tweeted Lisa, asking for her to intervene and stressing Kingsley is not hopeless. VDP. Fingers crossed! We all saw this coming, when Kim got her ‘stage prop’ and ‘new storyline’, the benighted Kingsley.
I had trouble at Cesar’s website email, so I sent him a message via Facebook. Fingers crossed that something good will come from out endeavors.
#savekingsley
I just sent a message to Villalobos Rescue Center (Pit bulls and Parolees) asking them to use any connections they have with a rescue in LA.
All of you who are reaching out to save Kingsley are really good, honorable people. Reading your comments this morning has been a positive way to start my week!
Same here @disqusqueen!
I have only started following TT the last couple of weeks and love the blogs. I have tweeted a #SaveKingsley to LV Etc and included a pitbull rescue so hopefully someone will rehabilitate Kingsley and provide him with a loving home.
I am contracting Handsome Dan rescue. Dan was one of Vick’s. I follow him on FB. It’s awesome what this family has done. Dan lives with other rescues. #TEAMTILLIE ( she was rescued – pittie ) and his human family has a lil girl. Dan was at the home when she was an infant and he could not have been a better big brother. They are in Rhode Island but they definitely have connections all over the states.
TT, I would rather take on Hitler and Saddam on their best days at the same time than take you on at your worse. You are awesome!
#SAVEKINGSLEY
Best wake up I’ve had in a week. I will start tweeting and reaching out too. TT you amaze me! #saveKingsley
I wonder if Ceasar Milan has heard about all of this. I’m assuming he has, but it’s not his problem.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound harsh; I’m actually worried that Kingsley will be put to sleep. I also should have read the comments first, to see y’all who mentioned Caesar.
It might be the law.
So awesome that there is so much support for Kingsley. Under the right care, he can be allowed a quality life. Animal ownership is a responsibility to be taken seriously! Thanks for the exclusive TT.
I face booked Lisa V and the other ladies from RHOBH. Maybe they understand that Kingsley has been a victim of Kim’s and will help. I wonder that the laws are in LA county regarding dogs who have bitten. Hopefully Kingsley can be rescued.
I’m sure I will be smoten by Jesus for saying this: thousands of dogs will be euthanized this week. Why not save the ones who don’t CRAVE HUMAN FLESH? Let this one go. Save a sweet one.
I agree teecee.
Excellent point.
There are indeed thousands of animals that will be euthanized today alone. The difference is that simply being a pitbull breed in 99% of counties, will be up first for the needle. They are the unadoptable, unloved breed. The sweet ones are given time to find homes, pitbull type breeds are given zero time
And???
Yes, because most normal people don’t want a dog with a genetic propensity to rip other living creatures (and sometimes people) limb from limb. There are plenty of great dogs out there that need homes and I feel sorry for the people who are not equipped to handle these dogs but get them foisted on them by shelters who want to save all dogs, and I also feel sorry for those around them, both humans and animals.
RIP dog.
I understand what your saying. I am a firm believer in adopting pets from pounds and shelters. It’s also incredibly important for people to understand that owning animals are a commitment that should not be taken lightly. Plus anyone looking for a local charity to donate to should get information on low cost spay/neutering programs and feral cat spay/neutering programs.
I agree, sorry not sorry.
I see your point and I understand where yall are coming from. It does make sense to save as many dogs you can that haven’t a history of biting.
From my perspective, Kingsley is being punished for Kim’s sins. If Kim had followed the trainers instructions, Kingsley may be a better behaved dog. Kingsley is going to die thanks to Kim. I hate that. It’s not fair. If Kingsley can be rehomed and given a fair chance, I say go for it. If he still is aggressive, euthanasia is the answer.
I don’t think your opinion is wrong, it may be the right thing to do, but I think Kingsley deserves a chance to prove himself to be a better dog than he was with Kim, a bad pet owner.
If Kingsley is put to sleep it might just be Kim’s “bottom”.
But she didn’t and he’s not. You can’t unring this bell.
@brillke, I agree this probably was not a good choice for a pet for Kim BUT the amount of daily work this dog needs to be kept in control and calm is most likely much, much more that anyone other than a professional cares to spend on their pet. I have a dog with a couple of screws loose like Kingsley and he needs hours of both mental and physical exercise to be happy. For my dog to be truly calm and happy he needs to go on at least one leashed walk and a ten mile off leash bike ride everyday. Or hours of mental training. It is tiring and sometimes not fun to have a special needs dog. Plus I always have the fear that he will act out unprovoked. I wish the King well but maybe he is better off, RIP.
Sorry not sorry. I agree. I don’t agree with spending thousands of dollars on this dog when there are so many who will be put down today that don’t have this record.
I also agree. I’ve seen it too many times where people with good intentions adopt the most unadoptable dog believing they are the dog’s savior but in the end the dog ends up viciously attacking them or someone else.
True, it’s the Lion Tamer syndrome…
Thank You Teecee, my thoughts exactly. People should know how the overpopulation of pit bulls is affecting many other wonderful animals who don’t have the pit bull advocacy movement. No other dog needs tons of dog fighter money to promote them as pets and continue their overpopulation. This only helps dog fighting, a multi million $$ under ground business which is why they keep the overbreeding and subsequent euthanization cycle going. Follow the money! Every town’s ACO should read Misunderstood Nanny Dogs, by J Thomas Beasley
Evaree,
It’s this kind of misinformation that keeps getting repeated as fact and it does nobody any good.
Right now, the most euthanized breed is chihuahua. It was pits up until about a year ago, maybe a little longer.
No matter what side of the argument you take, a dog will most probably die and it was due to Kim’s irresponsibility. It pisses me off to no end that her ridiculous sense of entitlement and stubbornness are going to have such dire consequences for Kingsley, not her.
Isn’t the fact that the chihuahua has taken the pitbull’s place proof of what evade said, rather than misinformation? It’s always us Mexicans that get the shitty end if the stick.
Teecee,
The reason chihuahuas are now the most euthanized breed has to do with its popularity. So many people saw them as cute accessories but pugs, corgis and huskies are now more popular. People just dump the chihuahuas off at the pound or worse, kick them out the door to fend for themselves.
Nothing in Evarees post was misinformation. If you have actual numbers about Chis being put down at numbers much more than pit bulls, I would love to see them. And if they are being PTS to make room for dogs like Kingsley, that is very very sad.
I changed my mind. Don’t euthanize him. Let him loose in Baltimore.
Why oh why did that make me laugh so?
Excellent idea!☺
@teecee66 great idea now that you mention it, catching up on that mess now
As long as Kim goes with him.
Great idea Tootsie — send Kim with him (& her BFF Brandi too). (And we’ll never have to worry about throwing them to the wolves & them returning leading the pack! They’ll be right at home / fit in perfectly.)
You crack me up.
I love this comment.
As a responsible parent to a rescued part pit bull I am honored to be among you.
I have questions. Why did they pick up the dog? Did someone finally file a complaint? Will the authorities even release a vicious dog to rescuers? Wouldn’t they be liable if the dog harmed someone else?
Maybe the family was afraid to take care of the dog?
Maybe Kingsley shows aggression when Kim’s not around to diffuse the situation / lock him in her room! I’ve seen it 2x in the past with different PitBulls & owners — when away on vacation, a trusted friend or family member was asked “just come over to feed & let the dog out” – in both instances the dog showed major aggression.
Obviously Kim, responsible dog parent that she was, was unable or unwilling to place him in a home or with a rescue group so surrender to Animal Control was the only option since she was going to be out of the home for an indefinite period of time. The fact that they dragged him out with the rigid stick leash speaks volumes. How sad.
@tabaccorhoda – That’s exactly what I was thinking. It’s not like he was just a stray that got picked up and taken to the shelter. I doubt very much that they are going to release him to anybody. He’s on death row, and he’s not going to be getting a pardon from the governor.
I sent LVP a tweet last night. No response yet.
I hate to say it, but I think this is one mess she will stay out of..
Yeah. I think it’s too late, anyway. And reading previous posts here about the dog, it seems there were several attacks? I don’t think any trainer could fix that.
Had that thought too – LVP might take her cue from Kyle, who probably will keep a wide birth from all these things anyway.
Been tweeting Cesar, pitbull and parolees, LVP, lots of press in LA area, BG since she’s her BFF 🙂 and all sorts of pit rescue orgs. Let’s hope something positive happens. And I really don’t like pits but this is worth it.
LVP won’t touch this with a ten foot pole LOL. At least not publicly. Otherwise she must face the wrath of Kim.
That’s what I was thinking, you know Kim will say, Lisa STOLE her dog, just like she’s saying Kyle STOLE her house.
I can’t say I blame her.
Poor Kingsley, animals rely on their owners to instruct them and keep them safe. Kim has failed herself, her family and her pets miserably. No wonder this dog lashes out, when they live in an unstable state of anxiety and chaos, who can blame them? Especially powerful breeds who have very specific needs. You can’t be a passive, uninvolved, negligent owner of a pitbull! Your failures could result in someone being seriously hurt, and this poor dog is paying the price because he hasn’t been taught better. I was going to suggest Cesar Millan as well, but everyone else seems to have that covered. There is no doubt in my mind Kingsley can be rehabilitated and could have a happy life if he was placed with owners that knew how to take care of him. He is in my prayers, I hope he’s saved 🙁
The problem with Kingsley is lawyers. Any lawyer on earth would say, do not take this dog, if anything happens it will be on you. Even Cesar Milan has lawyers. Suppose he takes the dog, re-trains him and adopts him out and somebody gets hurt by this dog. If a shelter adopts him out, they could get sued. If the animal control people let him live, they could be sued. Kim IS being sued, and she is lucky that Kyle is her sister, and it wasn’t Portia’s face. If anybody is to blame in this situation it is Kathy Hilton. He was Conrad’s dog, and Conrad couldn’t handle him. So she gives him to Kim? Somebody that she knows is mentally unstable, delusional, and ill-suited to pet ownership? The woman set Kim up for a lot of pain. I can only imagine the pain that Kim is in right now. I feel sorry for her, I really do. I would be broken if my dog was taken from me and destroyed. I don’t know what else to say. But Kingsley terrifies me. My sister-in-law has a pitbull rescue who is the sweetest dog on earth. I love him. He has never bitten anybody or anything and gets bossed around by three daschunds. Kingsley has a different temperament. I don’t know, I am conflicted.
Kim’s problem with Kingsley is that she treated him like a baby and not like a dog. I love my little rescue to bits, but she knows she is a dog and that I am the alpha in the house. Yes, she sleeps in my bed, but she is a dog. Anyone that treats a dog like a baby, especially a big dog, is asking for trouble. Whether it be destruction in the house, messes on the floor or lawsuits from mauling victims. I feel badly for that dog and his blood, along with others (her niece and friend, will be on Kims’ hands.
Banjo has no idea that dogs anywhere are allowed on human furniture. That’s just CRAZY TALK! He’s a dog. As I constantly tell him. He eats dog food. Because he is a dog. I wish I had never given him a taste of people food. 🙂
We do have an understanding when it comes to chicken. I get the liver and the crispy skin. He gets the gizzard and any damp skin the next day after it has been in the fridge.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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So not the dogs fault. If anyone decides to raise money to save Kingsley, please let us know where we can make a donation.
I’m trying to find a reputable place to give money to the victims in Nepal, but I don’t want to get ripped off like i did when I gave to Haiti after the earthquake and found out that money went straight into the hands of the government. Sorry, i digress.
Go to the website for THE VIEW they have a verified list.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m shocked Kim hasn’t used this as an excuse to bail on rehab.
I don’t know for certain, but my guess is she may have no idea. Surely she’s cut off from outside contact there. They may have just been waiting for her to leave to grab the dog.
In most rehabs you’re kept from contact with your family and friends for a certain amount of time — usually a few weeks — and then you earn it as a privilege. But, as we’ve discussed, she may have chosen a cushy non-rehab that has no such scruples or restrictions. My guess is, she knows it.
The day is young.
TT, I know I saw this suggestion above, but Villalobos (from the Animal Planet show Pit Bulls and Parolees) is a pit bull rescue based in New Orleans, but they originated in California. Kim and Bravo has/have funds to help with the transport. I’m sure if someone with your following reached out to them, Kinglsey could be saved.
This is just a thought but……… when I watched the reunion it was obvious that Kingsley was still living with Kim. “The trainer has the dog” line didn’t fly as Andy kept asking over and over “where is Kingsley?” I wondered at the time if Animal control would take a ride over to the Richards home to see if the dog was there- after two incidents. Is it possible that Kim knew they were coming for the dog, so she finally decided to go to rehab?
I honestly hope that the two of them can be rehabilitated. Like LoriNYC said, I also would donate to help kingsley- Poor Dog.
I’m checking in from work. I was hoping to see an “update: Kingsley’s been adopted” but 🙁 He is a beautiful dog and I’d take him myself but my Rottie doesn’t like competition! I hope someone saves this poor dog.
I wouldn’t trust Kim with a friggin goldfish let alone a dog of any breed!
So the dog was at her fucking house?
Yep. Never left except for a brief moment with a “trainer.”
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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OT related to your post above…you can re rise up soggy chicken skin by peeling it off the chicken and then putting it under the broiler maybe even treat it like bacon in the microwave (though I haven’t tried that). My apologies to your dog as he probably will be mad at me for telling you this.
I feel for this dog, but I also think animal control probably put him down immediately. He is a known biter.
I just received an automated response from Villa Lobos. They are unable to go to California to rescue Kingsley.
Bless all you kind souls who want to help. It’s true there are many other dogs that need to be saved as well. Kingsley is a dog we can possibly make a difference for. All my dogs are and were rescues. I believe in this.
Tia or Cesar might get involved if they can tape it for a TV show. Via Lobos does rescue dogs in other states when death is likely. Tia has to be called due to the volume of emails asking for help. She’s not very pleasant at first, I know I called her about a stray pit I found when she was still in California. Hopefully someone will realize it’s great PR. #SaveKingsley
Ok, so are they willing to take him if we can get him there?
I don’t know, it was an automated response. They claim to be overloaded with dogs.
Update from LVP private DM to my Twitter. She wanted to know what happened and when. I explained and asked for her assistance as we are trying to save Kingsley due to Kim’s irresponsibility so the dog is with a reputable org and trainer – Cesar Milan, rescue org, etc. she said she would get back to me.
Contact!! Fantastic =) Every drop in the bucket helps, even if it only means the choices in how to “help” him are handled more humanely.
Thank you so much. I tried to DM her, but she doesn’t follow me so I couldn’t. I did tweet her, though.
Wow! Contact AND promised action! We have a new Chat Hero! All Hail!
Fantastic, KatherineNola, FANTASTIC!
She never answered me. Must be a cat hater.
@Cat – She only likes pink pussies.
I can’t believe I am taking up for Kim Richards but I am in this case. No, I cannot stand her and have said some pretty rough things about her which I believe she fully deserves.
However, the real responsibility rests with the Hilton family for allowing Kim to take the dog in the first place. He was probably already aggressive and a problem and that’s why they allowed Kim to have him. Big mistake, and they, of all people, should have known that.
They had the time, the money, and the connections to have properly adopted him out, and instead they allowed him to go off with a mentally unstable addict and complete “breaker-of-the-rules” such as Kim. Worst choice they could have possibly made.
Thank You. The whole bunch are f*****g idiots. How they got rich, I will never know.
They were either born into money or married it. That’s how they got rich! Any idiot can accomplish those two things.
I love animals, I love dogs. The resources to attempt to socialize this dog would be better spent by donating to your local no kill shelter. Kingsley is a sad statistic, a powerful, dangerous dog with an irresponsible owner.
Some of you seriously need to get a grip. shipping him across country? Really?
Thanks for the voice of reason! People need to educate themselves about this breed.
Or maybe sending a few bucks to help with the 2000 people dead in Nepal. Yeesh.
More like 8.000. Butt they are people. I mean this is a cute dog! 😉
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I agree with Tobaccorhoda. Poor Kingsley, money can’t even buy a dog happiness.
Wow, I just got a DM from LVP in reply to my tweets. She wants to know how we know it’s true.
I’m confused as to why Animal Control got involved in the first place…if Kim loves this dog like her child, why wouldn’t she have made some sort of arrangements for his care before leaving for the treatment center?? So who called Animal Control to cover and pick the dog up and who let them in the house? Just all sounds very strange…..
I would guess one of her children. I doubt they could get into the house without Kim and not be bitten.
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Wonder if Kim knew this was going to happen when she left for treatment? Just seems very strange to me that someone who professes such love for their pet would leave for an extended period of time without first arranging for suitable care for it in their absence. Would find it hard to believe she’d agree to turn him over to Animal Control, knowing they’d have no choice but to put him down since he’s a known biter and thus labeled as vicious and not suitable for adoption. Would love to know the real story!
I think you are right, her children would be concerned with Monty there with Kingsley, there is no way he could control him. Even Kim couldn’t control him or how did two people get bit. They may have called because no one could take him, or would. So sad.
Monty does not and has not lived with Kim for decades.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Tamara somehow I missed the story on (BANJO). Would you be kind enough to post a link Thank You ♡
It was a comment I made somewhere. No idea where.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It’s in the “Kim says yes to rehab” post. Very touching. Banjo is lucky.
If Kingsley is put down, it will destroy Kim. She would probably blame Kyle like she does for everything else.
Another DM from LVP. “I hear he’s okay” is what she said.
ADMIN EDIT TO BOLD THIS COMMENT AND SAY THANKS MARY!
Well maybe he was removed by someone besides animal control. I assume rescues might use a catch stick. I hope LVP’s resources are right.
Sending out positive vibes for Kingsley. He can be rehabbed! As for Kim, who gives a shit!
I feel the same way.
I wonder how a dog that vicious can be rehabbed…and it be guaranteed he won’t attack again I don’t ask this trying to be sarcastic I just wonder
Here’s the deal IMO, let’s say Kim never gets Kingsley back or if she does, even though he has bitten he could still be handled in a safe manner. Maybe he will always be over territorial. It’s not cruel to keep a dog in a proper inside/outside kennel. When he is let out of the kennel, slip a muzzle on. If Kim would have put a muzzle on Kingsley when someone was at her house, we wouldn’t even be talking about this.
When the trainer returned Kingsley on camera, he was muzzled. Didn’t he tell Kim the dog should remain muzzled? Am I remembering that correctly?
Yes you are. Sorry but he’s a time bomb. Just google pit bull attacks each day. There’s stories everyday of innocent children, the elderly and pets killed by the family pet, who never showed any signs of aggression. Last week a two month old mauled by the family’s pit bull who was raised lovingly for 8 years with two other children. Their genetics dictate who they are, not all, but why take the chance.
He did. He told Kim the dog must allways be m uzzeled when anyone came over or put in a secure enclosure.When he found out she did neither he was mortified. He said she was totally risking death ot great bodily injury of people. He said shes not qualified to have any pet. I read where one time he came to train the dog she was so drunk he had to put her to bed. Kathy should be ashamed for giving this dog to Kim.
Maybe the person seen leading Kingsley out of Kim’s house is a trainer the family contacted to try to rehab him? Hopefully he can be rehabbed, and Kim’s only contact with him will be a framed photograph of him enjoying his new home.
This poor little guy. Kim needs to be banned from having animals.
There are a lot of parents who should be banned from having children, but it doesn’t work that way.
This has needed to be said ALL DAY. You people need to get a grip. WTF? This dog, does not have feelings. Get that straight. He is not human, so don’t try to make him out as if he is. My dog understands two languages, (English and Italian) yes, he is smart- and has innate intelligence for survival. He does NOT have human feelings. You are all projecting your guilt (or whatever) onto him. I have been raised on a ranch, with horses, dogs, cats, goats, cows, chickens, foxes, raccoons, rattle snakes, coyotes, deer, and the occasional mountain lion. Animals are precious, but they have their limitations in a human society. To say “it is not his fault” is not understanding the condition or state of a dog. He is bred (or overbred as the case may be) to have certain characteristics. Unless, and until the humans that own and train him fully understand the task before them, then he will fail, “or be failed”. If you can’t be an alpha full time, then don’t own a pitt. All dogs are fabulous. But you can’t erase the genetic characteristics they were given for survival. You as a human can try to calm or sequester the tendencies, but they are there for a reason. With the best of them, this dog cannot change; he can only be, in the best of circumstances, contained. Nice fantasy that you all have that he will be able to roam free on a large parcel, happy, fat and fed-with lots of rubs. But just for a minute, picture if your child was mauled to death by its own dog-it happened here in CA over 10 years ago. There are many other maulings. It is not the dogs “fault”. But it is likely to happen again and again without full time diligence. And which one of you can guarantee that? I can’t, and so to that I say, RIP Kingsley.
Banjo has more feelings that a 13 year old human. He huffs off and goes to his room (not his crate because I am in that room and he can’t bear the site of me) when he doesn’t get his way. And today he is uncharacteristically needy. He is excited as hell to go for a walk. Dogs also mourn when one in their pack dies.
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Animals DO have feelings, and Kingsley obviously loved & trusted Kim Richards. I’m no fan of Kim, but her dog LOVES her.
Yes, they mourn the loss of a member of the pack. My 14 old dog is needy. We crate him at night, so he doesn’t get confused and pee on the carpet. (He never had those issues until last year) Always excited for food, roaming the vineyard or following the truck. We are watching for when he is no longer wanting to be a part of this life. (He won’t go with me when I venture far out on the property like he used to, and is on steroids for pain). We can love our animals. Care for them as they need to be cared for; but please do not humanize them. They look to us for support and survival, as we have conditioned them to do. Many of us view their response as unconditional love from them. Yet it is their biological need for acceptance from the alpha, and a place in the pack. I love animals. I just don’t attach our feelings or psychological make up to them.
p.s. Banjo’s name is not Spike or Killer.
Actually, his vets (privately call him Kujo and don’t really want me to bring him in unless absolutely necessary. He is VICICIOUS toward vets and has to be drugged AND muzzled for all appointment.
He is really weird to day laying very close to me. We are not that touchy feely. I feel like he knows I am about to die or something. It is freaking me out how affectionate he has been today.
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You are Banjo’s alpha. From what you said about today’s events in the news, I bet he picked up on your energy, which sounds like human feelings that translate into a high sense of tension and fear (and compassion) for the Baltimore situation, and humanity in general. When I am annoyed, I have to couch my feelings in front of my dog, or she senses that she has done something wrong-looking for approval from me. My daughter walks in? Tail wags mercilessly!
Thank you, a voice of reason!! People,human beings, are incarcerated every day because they pose a danger to society and most of them will claim that they turned out the way they did because of their horrific childhood, which isn’t an excuse of course, but unfortunately a fact of life. If they pose too much of a threat to society, they are put on death row. Why should a dog, an animal that acts on instincts they’ve developed through generations of breeding, be given a “pass” because he had an irresponsible, ill-equipped, addict for an owner when human beings with irresponsible, ill-equipped, addicts for parents usually have to “face the music”?? Not every story in life has a happy ending…
I can only speak for myself but I don’t think every story has to have a happy ending. But after multiple years of watching addict-Kim on my boob-tube, it sure would be great if at least ONE individual who has been in contact with her doesn’t end up on the same shitty end of the stick, with a shitty, chaotic situation.
The humans in contact with Kim can choose to be away from her. A dog cannot. I’m advocating for at least one character in this stupid plotline to not get run over by Kim’s addiction and her poor dog management. That’s not giving someone “a pass”.
No one wants a child bit. I want a dog with these issues to be paired with someone who can assess his true potential. Period. Then let the facts determine the outcome.
Your dog is bilingual? So is mine. They understand sounds.
You are so right. I come from a farming ranch back ground as well. I concur. People do get carried away with ascribing human traits to animals. Like the couple who loved their chimpanzee like a child and he attacked him and ripped off his penis his eyes and anything else he could. We have to be realistic with certain animals who are prone to be vicious.
I realize I am not going to change the minds of those dedicated to the belief that their dogs are human, so I am sorry I went off earlier.
On a more curious note, I have been pursuing the penal codes of California. (pathetic) I cannot figure out why Kim wasn’t charged criminally, either for a misdemeanor, or a felony (serious bodily harm). Even if the family said nothing the first or second (Kyle) time, doctors should have had to report the incidents for a rabies check, which should have led to a citation. I spoke to two friends today who have dogs that nipped/bit (no skin break) people, and they were cited. So, what is going on? Perhaps TT can connect with someone in So Cal, and get to the bottom of that. Money (civil case) hurts, but Jail (criminal) can hurt more.
No one is arguing that dogs are human. I am arguing that dogs have feelings. Banjo for one is all up in his for some reason tonight.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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the dog has seriously bitten at least two people, and is as good as dead. RIP.
The way I see it, Kingsley should have been put down after he bit Alexia. It was at least his second vicious attack that we know of. But Kim, being the over entitled POS she is was allowed to keep him!, WTF? I’m sorry but I think Kingsley has already been given special privileges other dogs that attacked have not. Enough already!
I hope Cesar Millan gets the dog. My favorite part of his show is when he had that pit bull named Daddy.
The illicit dog fighters, pay Caesar Milan, Best Friends Animal Foundation and others millions to promote and lobby for the breed. Follow the money! Before dog fighting was illegal, you never heard of these maulings on a daily basis, as the dog men knew what they were purposely bred to do and were never kept as “pets”
WTF are you talking about?
Every few years, there’s a new “killer dog breed” the news hypes the shit out of. They’ve scared the public with stories of German Shepards, rotties, Chow Chows, and Dobermans, just to name a few.
Cesar Milan, The Best Friend Foundation and many others pit advocates are not being paid millions by dog fighters to promote the breed. Whatever the fuck you’re smoking, you need to lay off it for awhile.
Your comment is seriously the most retarded comment ever to appear on this blog and that’s saying something. I mean, I’ve made some pretty bullshit comments myself but none of them compare to the shit you’re spewing.
You seem to know unequivocally the facts I stated are not true, how is that? Or, You clearly have your head up your ass or are a true “Nutter” by your sociopathic comments. You fit the profile to a tee! Harass anyone who disagrees with your opinions. These poor animals are man made Mutants, purposely bred for ONE thing! The public has been duped by the Pit Bull Propaganda Machine. The statistics speak for themselves, they are not the Hyped New Killer Breed. They ARE killing someone every 8-14 days, FACT! They were never “Nanny” dogs as debunked by a leading Pit Bull Rescue organization to dispel the bullshit, Rescues are feeding people. This Rescue is trying to be part of a solution to the backyard breeders, unnecessary euthanizing of over a million per year, and ignorant rhetoric you spill on this blog. Read peer reviewed studies, read the Manual by the original Dog Men like John Colby before you come on like gangbusters, spew your bullshit and call someone retarded.
“A lie goes half way around the world before the truth has a chance to get it’s pants on”
There’s so much I want to say in response to your comment but there’s nothing I can say that will change your tiny, little mind, is there?
With the exception of my comment made to you, you know the one where I call you retarded, I’ve been very open minded and tried to see both sides to the argument. I still stand by what I’ve said about you, you are a giant fucking retard. Seriously, put a helmet on for your safety.
Your arguments are flawed, just check out what the CDC or ASPCA have to say or wait, are they getting paid millions by dog fighters too?
Everyone put your tinfoil hats on and “follow the money”!!! It’s all a CONSPIRACY!!!
I put it in quotes and capitalized so it must be true, right?
If ya’ll could all stop sending me emails with like to sites like PIT BULLS ARE GREAT! or PIT BULLS ATE MY BABY! That would be great.
It’s not really a big deal but there are just A LOT of them.
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“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser”. Citing the CDC, ASPCA or AVMA shows your complete lack of knowledge. They don’t track fatalities of people, pets or livestock. The propaganda strategy is known as Proof of Assertion and is a favored tactic employed by the well organized pit bull apologia, as it requires no critical thinking skills, only strength in numbers. The Machiavellian like army of pit nutters need only drown out the opposition without regard to facts. Advocates like the sinister Jane Berkey, Ledy Vankavage, Karen Delise, etc., who orchestrate the campaign for thousands of dedicated gullible drones that perform the grunt work; infecting the internet with the rote memorization of fabricated talking points. As their insane and baseless rantings leach outside of the cult like bubble they live in and infect normal citizens, humane societies and law makers, it is critical their lies be exposed.
I’m done debating with a tool…
Holy shit, you’re even more batshit crazy than I thought you were. I had to check to see where I was, I thought I had stumbled onto The Onion for a minute there.
You are seriously the most insane bitch I’ve ran across in all my time on the Internet.
Well, guess I’m going to go spread more pit bull propaganda with my fellow cult members…err, I mean go visit my neighbors pit bull.
Sorry you’re getting bombarded, TT. This is a touchy subject it would seem and it has sent a few people over the end.
It’s possible Kim made arrangements for someone to pick up the dog before she checked into the spa.
Wouldn’t it be pretty obvious if animal control picked up the dog? Meaning, was there a guy in a uniform and a truck parked out in front of the house that said animal control or something like it on the side? Or did someone just see a person leading the dog out with a stick? Knowing how thorough TT typically is I would imagine when she says animal control picked him up then that’s what happened.
Thanks but all we know is “someone” picked up the dog on a snare stick from Kim’s house on Saturday. I assumed it was Animal control, but that is not 100% clear at this point.
Apologies for making conclusions.
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Help me understand and excuse my ignorance in advance. Is the reason he may be put down because he viciously bit humans? Can’t he be rescued, rehabilitated and/or propery trained be Cesar Milan or a real dog trainer? or is he too old? Obviously I don’t have dogs and know nothing about pits other than they are extremely dangerous. Doesn’t Michael Vick have some involvement now with pit bull rescue dogs?
I’m a bit surprised to see all of the save Kingsley posts here.
With all due respect, I have seen what pit bulls are capable of. It is truly terrifying. A friend has one chained outside of his home in Belize for protection. He took a large stick and held it high then, gave him the command to attack. I will never go near his home again.
I understand that not all pits are trained in this way. Having read numerous stories, including one (detroit suburb) where the family pit ripped apart their child into pieces, I will never understand why anyone would want to keep this dog alive. Or own one because, irregardless of how they are trained, this is their biological makeup and what they are capable of.
I love dogs but people please stop the nonsense with dogs who attack … BREED DOES NOT MATTER! It could be a teacup Yorkie for all I care; if a dog’s behavior cannot be control then he should not be around people.
Anyone that’s suffered an attack by a human (rape, robbery, riots, etc.) is not going to believe that their attacker just needs a good loving home as an option; try telling that to the merchants in Baltimore or someone that’s been raped or robbed.
When a person shows you who they are the first time believe it; dogs are no different. Kingsley has attacked two people that we know of one of which was hospitalized with serious injuries.
Unfortunately, some dogs like people are beyond rehabilitation & should be dealt with accordingly. The notion that “Pits” get a bad rap is like saying “inner city” people get a bad rap when they riot/commit crimes. Not all “inner city” people riot/commit crimes & not all “Pits” attack but you don’t get a pass because you’re a “Pit” or “inner city” rioter that attack.
Pitbull statistics have been very steady for a long time. They are 6% of the dog population and account for 64% of all dog bites. And dogs are bred to have certain characteristics. That is just a fact. You should watch a documentary from England about how they have bred bad characteristics and unhealthy features into dogs for their looks. These poor bullldogs that can’t breed and can’t swim were bred that way for “beauty'” If you look at how dogs have evolved to have certain characteristics and physical attributes from just 100 yrs. ago., it is amazing. I will try to find the name of the documentary.
Just an FYI about those stats, a lot of dogs that actually aren’t pit bulls get lumped into those stats for simply having the “characteristics” of bully breeds–blocky head, stocky body, etc.
It’s “Pedigree Dogs Exposed.”
Did you see it?
In August 2008, a powerful BBC documentary, Pedigree Dogs Exposed (PDE), rocked the dog world when it claimed to reveal the “greatest animal welfare scandal of our time.”
Watch this if you ever have time, and you will learn everything you need to know about breeding and it will break your heart. It is one of the best programs I have ever watched.
I hope there will be more Kingsley news tomorrow, good news.
Sharon C. @SharonHutch · 8h8 hours ago
#RHOBH Not a peep from dog lover @KyleRichards about Kingsley.Disgusted, disheartened, depressed.Animals aren’t prob, people r.#SaveKingsley
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Kyle Richards @KyleRichards · 23m23 minutes ago
@SharonHutch that is a rumor
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Um, Kyle’s getting shit now?? That dog attacked her daughter.
Kyle was not getting shit. She was probably tweeted as Kim’s sister who would know what’s going on. No one was talking. When she responded, she was thanked and apologized to for any misunderstanding.
Why does Kyle say that it’s a rumor and not that it’s untrue? I know it sounds like splitting hairs, but there is a distinction.
I don’t know if I believe Kyle. TT has some pretty good sources.
Why are we trying to save a killer dog? What is wrong with our society?
I seriously question the sanity and humanity of those who value animals above people. There are those who want a dog that has caused damage to at least two people “saved”, but would be pleased if an ill human (there but for the grace of God, Kim) would die. Kingsley should have been put down immediately after attacking the elderly lady. Kyle’s daughter would have been spared. Kim deserves our empathy and support. Why? Because we are not better than Kim by any means, we only have different circumstances. Who knows what we would have been like “growing up Richards”? We have no idea what she has been through. None of us have walked a mile in Kim’s shoes.
I seriously doubt that anyone on this site places the value of a dog over a human, and I certainly don’t think anyone wants to see Kim die. This site is full of a lot of very nice and compassionate people. People have been wanting that dog removed from Kim’s home for a long time and turned over to someone who can properly train and care for him. If he cannot be salvaged, then at least someone responsible made an effort. God knows Kim hasn’t. She made it very clear during her Kingsley story line that she wasn’t going to follow the trainer’s directions. It’s been very sad and upsetting to watch what Kim is doing to herself and her family, so maybe some of us are hoping for at least one positive outcome.
Kingsley looks just like the pitbull who used to live three houses up the street from me. He was always getting loose and running around the neighborhood. I called animal control a couple of times, but they wouldn’t come and pick him up unless he was “contained”. They expected me to do their job for them. Several other people called them too, but nothing was ever done about him. The whole neighborhood was relieved when his owners lost their house and had to move.