
So you have gone off the rails, broken your sobriety and gotten yourself arrested on four charges. What should you do? Call a sponsor? Get a 24/7 sober coach for a while? Go to rehab?
Not if you are Kim Richards. First, you call Kathy Hilton and have her get with her friends at the Beverly Hills police department and stop the mug shot from being released, allegedly. Then, you pull yourself together and film an episode of Dr. Phil.
Because the most important thing in a time of crisis is public perception.
The only part of the transcript floating around is one where Kim takes responsibility for her actions.
“I was angry and frightened and I was scared. I knew what I had done. The whole night is my fault. None of this would have happened if I didn’t drink.” ~Kim Richards to Dr. Phil
The episode will air next Tuesday April 28th
People magazine is quoting a source that says Kim is refusing to go to rehab at this time. My guess is she doesn’t want to miss the wedding or be unavailable should something happen to Monty. I can understand that. But I hope she is doing something and will go back after the wedding.
And she needs to stay far, far away from Brandi. Monty might even be a bigger trigger than Brandi because of the deep emotions surrounding his condition coupled with all the pain meds lying about.
So what to we think of this whole Dr. Phil thing? Sympathy ploy? PR move? An attempt to save her job?
I imagine she may have pissed off Bravo by taking her story to another network. I’m sure Andy would have LOVED to do a one on one. I don’t know if they have to clear all interviews with Bravo, but I don’t think they do. I know that they cannot do another reality show on another network for a year from their last episode on Bravo.
This is all very bizarre and it doesn’t look like Kim is making the best choices for herself
Maybe someone got fired
and needs new source of income?
Dr Phil doesn’t pay for interviews though. He will pay for treatment if she’s willing to do it..but I doubt that’s why she wanted to do this. I feel she wants sympathy, and PR spin but Dr Phil will see through that pretty fast. No way Kim can outwit him.
Not exactly true – the show may not cut a check for guests, but they do get compensated, in the form of flight, meals, hotels, and prepaid credit cards as after gifts, along with whatever else the sponsors throw in.
Plus, there are rumors that Phil DOES pay celebrity guests – Dina Lohan supposedly got $50,000 for her appearance.
Open bar!!!
In terms of the one year, is that filming or air date? It seems like Taylor and Gretchen weren’t gone too long before their couples reality shows aired.
I believe it is air date. I found out this information during the year after Sheree was fired. She had to wait a year to do Iyanla
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Are VH1 & Bravo owned by the same parent company? That’s probably the big distinction. As long as the owners are making money it’s all good.
No
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Holy shitballs. That was fast! This is pathetic. I hope at least dr Phil talks some sense into her. The last thing she needs right now is to be on television for gods sake. Can’t believe the mugshot isn’t available. That’s more disturbing to me than anything actually. Sad that the rich have privacy rights the rest of us don’t have.
SO FAST. It’s been five days since the arrest and it has already been filmed and publicity is starting. FIVE DAYS and it has been FILMED and the PR is out.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:05 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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WOW. In my drunken state I assumed this was filmed prior to the arrest bu subsequent to the reunion. Silly me. Totally a PR move by Kathy. Kyle must really have mixed emotions right now. Both devastated and slightly vindicated. Clearly Brandi wasn’t a great influence. Is the story still that Kim was alone? Not with Brandi or meeting a pill dealer?
My friends get their prescription pills from high class restaurants/hotels all the time.
No kidding!! Did she even have time to sober up before they filmed? Lol. That is some fast work!!
Interesting. TT don’t yiu think this is very controled by her PR team as the Andy interview was and it will just be a bunch of excuses and blahblahblah? Alcohol is her drug, etc. I just feel like it will be an hour of sugar coated excuses.
When I said “Andy interview ” I keant the one on the reunion several seasons ago.
Why such a frenzied rush though? This stinks to high heaven of something diabolical, though pinpointing the nucleus of the filth is difficult.
I remember watching Duff McKagan get interviewed by Phil (had a huge celebrity crush on Duff when I was young). His story was harrowing and heart wrenching. But he pulled through, got sober, and now he’s got a beautiful family and he seems very happy. His explanation of the way an addicts mind works made sense to me. He’s logical, thorough and no bullshit.
Kim is just too much. This PR move nonsense is gonna leave her “fans” even more disgusted than the were in the first place, IMO.
@minky I agree. I don’t believe for one minute Kim actually has a publicist on retainer. If she did we would have seen mea cupla blogs and a nice fluffy interview with People or another outlet at this point. Since her arrest this story has been carried everywhere. A PR crisis team would have taken control quickly and slammed her ass into a long term facility. IMO, someone in her family is advising her-poorly-Kathy? Since she does a fabulous job with her kiddos. Just my .2cents but am still on first cup of coffee! (But had to run here first to read comments and get updated!)
I also loved the Duff Kagan interview with Dr. Phil – I read his book after watching it. His story was so honest and humble – it helped me understand addiction better and improve on my own drinking habits. I’m SO curious to see how tough Dr. Phil will be on KIm and hope she takes some real accountability (and accepts help if he offers).
@michael, please explain how your friends get prescriptions from high end restaraunts & hotels. I have never heard of such a thing! How the hell does that work?!
@hokiechick You rawk! Thinking about it now, a good Duff McKagan song to describe all the terrible Wives’ terrible behavior is when he covered that Misfits song “Attitude”. Sing it with me babies!:
“Attitude, what you got’s a fuckin’ attitude
Attitude is what you got’s a fuckin’ attitude
Some fuckin’ attitude
Yeah, right
Inside that bitter brain
There’s gotta be a whore
If you don’t shut your mouth
You’re gonna feel the floor, yeah!”
Their dealers don’t meet them in dark alleys. They just catch up for a drink at the Hyatt bar or something.
@michael totally agree re dealers. That’s how it works in New Orleans. Unless u are insane and wander into the lower 9.
Too bad she wasn’t within the LAPD or LA Sherrif’s jurisdiction
Doesnt it suck. Even her charges were tallied as misdemeanors!
The Hilton machine carries a BIG stick don’ t you know
I do not care for Kim but I don’t think this sucks. I do hope it was a wake up call but just my very uneducated opinion of drug addiction but she needs rehab not jail. I feel like her mental state is too fragile for jail. Of course my disclaimer is I do not know her just a small glimpse into her on reality tv.
*sucks it was misdemeanors that is
Drunk in public and kicking a police officer would not be a felony for anyone.In the scheme of things they are not that serious.
Way too fast, and way too public. If she’s at all serious about sobering up, preventing any of this from happening in the future, not embarrassing her family, and possibly saving her life, the first thing she has to do is drop out of sight and in to a good rehab. THEN talk, a year from now, about what she’s learned and what she’s done about it. Another publicity-generating appearance is not the way to do it. She keeps trying to redeem herself and just digging herself deeper and deeper in. She also has to drop the “I’m a star” thing, speak in the present, and find a way to live happily outside the “Hollywood” life that she seems to think is her only option. She should work out the past in private with a good therapist and a support group. She has to realize there’s absolutely no reason to rush.
I love Dr Phil and make no apologies for that. The man doesn’t waste time and doesn’t mess around.
I’m really curious to see what happens on this show. I have a feeling it is more than simply the leaked statement from Ms. Richards.
She’s gonna shush him and say: “Stop talking about me!” and/or: “I have worked very, very hard on my sobriety.” If she doesn’t end up being lying, making ridiculous excuses, or being rude to Phil, I’ll eat my hat.
I hope it’s not a PR ploy!! I’m hoping she is starting to see the seriousness of her actions and can admit she needs to go to meetings and she needs a sponsor before she goes to rehab!
People who take their sobriety seriously see a REAL doctor, not Phil. Totally a PR stunt to keep her job. Guilt trip Bravo into keeping her.
When Dr. Phil first came on the scene through Oprah, she introduced him as a ‘showman and a psychologist’. Somehow being a showman AND a psychologist doesn’t mix too well with me. Where does one start and the other one end? I don’t get the hype about Dr. Phil anyway, I don’t watch him. He kind of reminds me of the snake oil salesman type.
Agreed, @Gingersnap.
In Australia it is generaly considered that he is a fraud, and not a real doctor. He gets the same respect/recognition as Jerry Springer (both have/had the same time slot). Trashy daytime tv lapped up by housewives. Good tv, but bad advice.
He has great advice most of the time. It’s just that he picks the most newsworthy/high ratings people to give it to.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:21 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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She needs to stay off TV and take this seriously. Total shit move.
I could not be more disgusted with Kim Richards. Dr.(?) Phil is a fraud and she is a drunk who is more concerned with her public image than her life and her children. I am out of words regarding this mess of a human being. So many people have problems and are substance abusers who would love to be able to afford a good rehab facility yet she decides to do one of Phil’s infamous fake interviews. Shame on her, shame on Phil and shame on any of us who continue to watch this train wreck. Thanks for the update, T.
I agree, Micheal. I’m embarrassed for her at this point.
Yes. And broadly “adrnitting” publicly that it was “all your fault” is just a mean ingless way of saying “okay, I did what you wanted, now get off my tau.” For a year, at least, she’s been vilifying people publicly for suggesting she’s anything but completey sober — how about starting by saying they were ah l correct? The story is she “relapsed” from seeing the reunion is that what she was “angry” about? That she had been called out in public? The only reaction she should have had was embarrassment at her lies and her belligerent behavior, especially towards her sister’s daughter, whom her dog attacked. And the appropriate reaction would be to call her sister immediately and apologize. Nope! Let’s go on a ranger and kick a cop. If she was serious she would have left immediately for a good 6 month rehab, no matter what was going on. She already saw her daughter get married. She just wants to make some token gesture so she can continue to call everyone meanies for questioning her.
@Michael + @Gingersnap: Totally spot on. This is going to be yet another charade. Kim’s behavior is not only deplorable, but she thinks she’s smarter than everybody else. Textbook example of a narcissist.
Exactly!
saying this here as I can’t reply to your other comment – I’m Australian and I like Dr Phil.
thanks. Micheal seems to be appalled. Dr. Phil is a psychologist. And has many, many credentials on his resume. to compare him to Maury Pauvich is insulting.
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Janshell: c’mon. She has zero self-awareness and will never take accountability for her actions, the impact her using has caused, or responsibility for her dog or his actions. Her m.o. is someone or something else is to blame for everything. I don’t know much about AA (besides what I’ve learned from blogs, Intervention, and Seinfeld), but I know she hasn’t “worked the program” because of step 9 (making amends). Its the same one that prevented James Spade from apologizing to George for refusing to let George’s large bulbous head stretch the neck out on his finely knit cashmere sweater.
Tamara
Remember when Brittany Spears was in the midst of her spinning out of control? Didn’t Dr. Phil show up at the hospital to offer his services? Didn’t they send him packing instead? I wonder if this was another instance of him reaching out to a “celebrity” as a publicity stunt? Somehow, I think that this interview will be beneficial for both. He retains his standing as a therapist, and she is somewhat vindicated by being able to blame her non-relapse on the stress caused by the Houswives.
psssst. hey joanie… come close I need to tell you a secret… promise you won’t tell? I kinda like Dr, Phil and think he will be really good dealing with Kim. Don’t tell the other asshats because liking him is not cool and I have a reputation to uphold. SSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH This comment will self-destruct five seconds after you read it. Okay it won’t but that would be cool, no?
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT I hope as I’ve heard him say he’ll put some verbs in his sentences. With any luck he will talk to her like any other addict that has come on his show and tell her she will either get sober the right way or she is going to die. For guests with issues like Kim’s he will have a representative from a long term rehab and sober living center there to take them right after the show. You stated above that People said Kim is refusing to go to rehab at this time. She is probably just going to try to do some damage control.
There are times when I think that he has done some good work and I think he was and might still be a competent therapist. But then again, I always wonder if he isn’t playing to the crowd when he pops up after a “celebrity” falls off the wagon, offering his services. Kinda like when your husband brings you flowers out of the blue, after never having previously done so. It is difficult not to question his motives. I do think that Mission Impossible (not Tom Cruise’s version) was really cool, especially considering the technology that we have now versus what we had then…Besides, the original agent (Peter something with the pretty Gray hair) was kinda pleasing to the eye. You know, you can always say ” my contact slipped” if anyone questions you about Dr. Phil.
I think if any ATMs were thrown they were thrown by Kathy, not by Dr. Phil.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think she is granting the interview, and refusing rehab, because she knows she can get it for free from Dr. Phil. Unless, he throws her a curve ball and just pushes Doctor on Demand.
Or, maybe the plan is to go further? Accept the free rehab, and get her own spin off show? She could partner with Dr. Drew.
TT…love your sense of humor!! I agree with you he’ll tell Kim how it is which , I have a feeling she’s used to being treated with kid gloves! Dr.Phil won’t baby her!!
Pssst …. I’m a closet Dr. Phil watcher. I like the straight shooting, no bull shit advice he gives. I can only hope he does the same with Kim. If anyone can see through her delusions, he can.
I would PAY $$ to see Dr. Phil’s response when Kim points her bony finger at him and says,”Do you really want to go there? Why don’t you focus on your own family? You don’t want me to tell what I know about Robin.”
TT, I’m right there with you in the secret Dr. Phil fan club. I hope he really goes in on Kim. He’s usually pretty tough on alcoholics, as the son of an alcoholic father. And he’s a huge animal rights advocate. Hope he takes her to task for her irresponsible “parenting” of Kingsley.
I actually like him, too, and I think he will draw some lines with her. He was good with Farrah Abraham and with Lindsay Lohan’s mother, both of whom got a scathing “read” from him. He’s gotta stop peddling his son’s crap books …
You know I’m surprised that they didn’t call in the big guns for this one, a.k.a. Dr. Drew. Especially because of his connection via Brandi’s Celebrity Rehab friend What’s-her-name.
I’m not gonna lie, Dr. Phil puts on a marvelous show, but he is to psychology what Judge Judy is to the law. Real lawyers don’t have many good things to say about her. However, channeling Judy re: Kim’s idiotic version of events: “If it doesn’t make sense, then it’s not true!”
Dr. Phil is A MILLION times more credible that Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew exploits rehab on his show, Dr. Phil reads people the riot act. EXCEPT sometimes, he does go soft on “celebrities” and I have a feeling this interview had a LOT or strings attached.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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How dare you. Judge Judy is a national treasure.
Didn’t mean any disrespect. I loved watching me some Judge Judy when I was unemployed and depressed as hell. I could say to myself, “Well at least I’m not like these crazy fucks.” But, you just get the feeling that a real-life courtroom situation would be somewhat different. Ya know?
No. The only judge better than judge judy is judge Belvin Perry. And I hear he is getting his own show.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I was being “funny”, but I do love me some Judge Judy, and Dr Phil.
I keep imagining Judge Judy vs. Jodi Arias….
@Cat In a perfect world, yes. Wouldn’t that be wonderful?!
@Anastasia_Beave I know, I know. I’m just so afraid of offending people on this blog. I don’t want to become a window licker, so I always over-explain everything I say. Sorry for being so wordy.
Oh I love Dr Drew. He is actually a really nice guy in person and very smart! Maybe HLN does make his show kinda seedy but he truly is a nice person! I think he really cares about people.
He’s a TV sellout. I get Phil is too but, Dr. Drew is putting addicts on TV for financial gain.
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This should be a doozy! I’ll be looking forward to see how much spin/denial she’ll use on Dr Phil and how much he allows her to get away with. I expect her to maintain she’s still three years sober and that it was her first time getting wasted in three years.
How much Salmon salad was paid for this interview…
And you’re right, TT. Kathy Hilton is definitely working overtime to make Kim’s problem disappear especially from the criminal standpoint. No mugshot release yet. What bullshit.
I can’t wait for her to tell Dr. Phil that Kingsley is off limits, the house is off limits, her children are off limits, blah blah blah.
Eggbeater!
Dr. Phil stole her house!!!!! (“Oh, he’s gonna cry now.”)
Or just say “blah, blah, blah,” back at him when he states a fact or opinion.
I know, that “blah, blah, blah” remark was so juvenile from a 50 year old woman. Somehow I have a feeling that I’m going to be screaming at the tv when she’s talking to Dr. Phil. I can’t imagine that we won’t see the same deflecting Kim who was just on reunion show less than 2 weeks ago. No one changes that quickly.
Personally I hope he at least gives her a stern breakdown of why she’s an idiot. I think that’s the very best we can hope for. But, she’s probably gonna giggle through the whole interview. Or she’ll tell him that he couldn’t possibly understand how hard it is to be a famous former child star. You know, shit like that. I can just smell the bullshit now.
Unless there were a WHOLE LOT Of conditions in Kim’s appearance, He will deal with her.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Yeah that won’t fly with Dr. Phil. Dr. Drew is kinda soft on people, maybe too soft for Kim. I was fascinated with the rehab show, allways wondered what rehab was like. It was interesting when he was treating love and sex addiction.
I enjoyed Dr Drew’s show but I’ve never said anything because I know how TT feels about him (wink wink) >
I used to LOVE Dr. Drew. He just sort of became a publicity whore and the shine wore off.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I still like Dr. Drew. I think however That he’s become HLNs bitch with no creative control. There are many times he himself seems totally mortified with the stories he’s covering on his show. I hope he’s getting paid a lot!
Dr Drew has a LOT of kids…. or twins or something and he just keeps on keeping on… IJS
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Can’t say I’m surprised at this. More avoidance on Kim’s part. Perhaps Dr. Phil can get a two-fer for Kim & Nick Gordon? I doubt Kim will accept the help if offered. She seems to still be in deep denial. Any regular joe would have already been admitted over the weekend. This is just gross. But, make no mistake, I will be setting my DVR for this! Thanks for this one, TT!
The more I think about it, I agree that it’s PR stunt/damage control. Especially bc it was so fast. But, seriously, get this chick off tv & get her some real help. Only hope is if the good (Phd) Dr. Calls her out. Otherwise, will just be more of the liar’s lies coming out of her lying hole.
Damage control for what though? She got arrested. Okay…and? Is this to get Bravo off of her back? Her family? Friends? It’s an attention whore move. She’s doing this so that she can rationalize her behavior and bask in the spotlight. At least in part.
I don’t believe that. I think Kim is HORRIFIED. And she is just like Kyle with the concerns about public perception. I think she is doing this hoping people will like her. This is universal with reality show participants. THE WANT TO BE LIKED. Not being liked is extremely hurtful to them.
I honestly think she is just doing this so people will like her.
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I guess I worded that wrong.. I agree she is extremely worried about what other people think. This appearance in her mind can help the damage to her reputation & help her look better in the public’s eyes…I’m convinced she is going to try to explain (lie) this away. Hoping Dr. Phil will call her out on her shit and not “handle her with kid gloves”. Also hope there aren’t a ton of conditions related to her appearance (like lots of topics that are off limits). Sorry, my brain is off this week & several of my posts have been misinterpreted bc of my bad choices in wording… So basically, I agree with y’all. My bad.
I can’t wait to see if he throws the bullshit flag on her. That’s just one of his many good ole boy expressions.
Agreed. Phil does seem to have a pretty good bullshit meter. I’ll give him that.
He will not handle her with kid gloves like Andy. I am curious to hear all her excuses though.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I hope you’re right!!!
Hopefully he did with her what he does with all of his other guests and spoke extensively to family members. I don’t know how much prep he could have done in such short time though. I really hope he doesn’t treat her with kids gloves. He can be hit or miss, especially lately.
I can’t wait to hear his advice about her buddy, Brandi. Brandi is the worst friend for someone with an addiction.
What if Kathy pulled a few strings to get a highly controlled interview with Dr Phil? I’d suspect that Kim just cries a lot and get a Phil free pass. Especially if she is refusing rehab. She will just blame it on her family/dog/monty issues that made her slip.
Remember Kim doesn’t relapse. She just makes itty bitty mistakes.
I can’t wait to see him hold her feet to the fire.
I hope he makes it clear to her that even if she gets sober, she’s done a lot of damage that other people are under no obligation to forgive. She needs to be away not only from the public spotlight, but from all the family and friends whose patience and good will she has taxed to the limit.
From your mouth to Phil’s ears Tamara.
Dr. Phil keeps it real only with his trailer trash guests, but celebrities not so much. If a celebrity is on there it’s usually because they have a book to promote. That’s what makes Kim’s appearance so suspect. And so soon too. Like, did they call Dr. Phil while she was in the drunk tank?
Oh I love me some Dr. Phil, but he too has a show and needs ratings. I have no doubt his staff was calling HER. Apparently within hours.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Brandi is the worst friend for anybody. If Kim is so desparate to be liked, she should be a lot nicer or stay the hell off reality TV.
PR ploy and Dr. Phil is so slimy. Can’t decide who is worse, Dr. Drew or Dr. Phil. I am guessing she demanded heavy scripting to make her look like the victim yet again and got it.
Dr Phil most definitely threw the ATM at her.
I’m thinking desperate money grab.
Dr Phil doesn’t generally pay in cash for clients. He gives them airfare, fancy hotels, clothes, makeovers and free rehab.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Is this going to be “Live”? If it is pre-recorded and does not go exactly as Kim wants it will never be shown.
@tulpje: Oh my soul! That’s pretty fucking bad. Are these TV people ALL a shepherd for the devil?
Disagree. More a PR move. An interview with very strict rules on what questions can and cannot be asked.
It’s strictly a PR move by the Richards camp. She made a fool of herself publicly and can’t blame it on being “a story line”. What did Kyle say? Something about they were raised to keep family issues hush hush never put them out there for public consumption. She felt it leads to sweeping things under the rug. Should be interesting how Kim spins it. I can hear her now “I take full responsibility for my actions. Blah, Blah, Blah, right?” IMO, she can spin it all she wants but it is lip service unless she goes to a very credible rehab that specializes in alcohol/drug addiction and psych. She has a mental illness, past trauma, or something.
Nah, Angel(?). She’s just a bitch. You can’t blame everything on someone’s childhood. And there are plenty of nice “crazy” people out there. Very few people are really, truly mentally ill. Issues, yes. Crazy, maybe not. Crazy means, or should mean, that you can’t remember your own name, or you can’t control your behavior. Crazy, IMO, is not calculating and deliberate. I could be wrong.
You could not possibly be more wrong.
Further you propagate the idea that mental illness is any different from any other illness. When your brain malfunctions, somehow that is different than when your heart malfunctions or your kidneys malfunction or your lungs malfunction. Mental illness seems to always be considered a character flaw rather than a physical malfunction. As if the person could just not let their brain malfunction.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT. Re: mental illness comment ^^ I actually think this is one of the best comments you’ve ever made.
The stigma associated with mental illness continues to be so widely misunderstood. This is why most insurance companies don’t reimburse for psych diagnoses. Therefore, these patients who cannot afford to pay out of pocket often end up on the street, truly homeless. If they had access to proper treatment, many could function normally in the world.
Imagine someone with cancer or a heart condition not being able to receive any medical treatment (this does happen also, sadly–just not as often & not because there is a stigma attached to their medical problem). Imagine there being a stigma attached to getting cancer or heart disease & being thrown away like yesterday’s trash to die alone on the street.
It’s called mental ILLNESS for a reason. Those people don’t choose to be mentally ill any more than one would choose to get cancer or heart disease. THANK YOU for posting this comment!!
I had to sign up for Obama Care this year. I can no longer afford my therapist. I try to see her as much as I can afford. I do NOT want to go through the trauma again of getting another caught up to speed.
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Okay, I totally need to clarify what I meant. I absolutely believe that people get/have problems like depression, anxiety, PTSD and the like. Unfortunately mental illness, unlike cancer or a heart condition, has the potential to be used as an excuse for behavior that may or may not be the result of an actual medical problem. There’s more room for fudging with a mental disorder than a physical one. I believe some people are capable of doing something that evil. I could be wrong. Is Kim one of those people? Maybe. I’m not a professional. That’s what I meant.
One problem with mental illness, that is I believe ignored, is if people know about your condition they can use it against you in a way they can’t with a physical malady. Too many people, IMO, are too comfortable using insults like “bipolar bitch” or “schizo” as a means to denigrate or discredit someone. This is even worse if the individual who is the target of these insults really does have a condition or issue. Like, he or she shouldn’t be taken seriously because of his depression, anxiety, or whatever. Bipolar, depression, anxiety, and similar problems are categorized as disorders, but they don’t mean batshit crazy. Unfortunately too many people still think like they’re stuck in the 50’s.
I know what Dr. Phil will say about Brandi. He’ll lean in on Kim and say”Now you know you shouldnt be hanging around someone who gets drunk all the time, when your’e an alcoholic? You knew that allready right?” They told you that in rehab before right?”
Absolutely thid is PR. With her means, there is no advice or insight or offer of rehab situation that Kim and her family could not access privately.
The Dr Phil show has sort of become the go to place for redemption, now that the Oprah show is over. I just hope he doesn’t coddle her. I hope he comes on strong about how her tv behavior affects her childrdn and other loved ones, just as he does most people.He will see through her bullshit and call her on it, unless he has agreed to give her special handling.
I don’t know how “tv” behavior even got in that sentence. My tablet is haywire.
If he coddles her, I will be disappointed but not surprised. He’s definitely not the first to have done so. This is all PR IMO to cool the news and backlash from her arrest.
Her kids are her go-to excuse for getting a reprieve, but they have yet to inspire her to actually change her behavior.
You just don’t get it.
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No, I don’t get it. It’s hard to understand the rationale behind these decisions. She isn’t well. I’ve said before that she needs help. A lot of it. She keeps making a spectacle of herself. Why? It’s not necessary. She can’t keep bringing up her kids. They’re going to think it’s somehow their fault. That’s not okay.
Hmmm isn’t worrying about public perception exactly the accusation that Kim threw at Kyle on the final episode of the reunion? Good lord get this woman off TV and find her a real doctor. I’m not convinced that holding back her mug shot was in Kim’s best interest in the end. I can just imagine what she looked like after going on a bender and spending nine hours in the gray-bar hotel. It would sure make it difficult for her to insist that she hadn’t actually been drunk. I’m betting it will either be that or insisting it was a one- time slip due to reunion.
Oops forgot to add PR ploy!
When Kathy’s son went batshit, ALLEDGELY on drugs on the plane and called everyone peasants and had to be restrained in flight, HE immediately went to rehab whether that was the issue or not.
So you KNOW they are trying to get Kim in, but like I said, I do get it. she wants to get through the wedding an Monty’s last days first. I know it is not in her best interest, but I totally understand her irrational thought process.
That said she needs to put the oxygen mask on herself first….so to speak.
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CLEARLY I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A HALL MONITOR IN MIDDLE SCHOOL!
How’s that for an admin edit?
I wonder if the responsible and reasonable thing for her to do would be to enter rehab and go to the wedding with an escort of sorts. Maybe a trusted family could keep an eye on her, and after the wedding return to rehab ASAP. I totally understand her wanting to wait. I have a daughter and it would kill me to miss her wedding. Although technically she is already married, I know it would probably do more harm than good for Kim to miss it. and just add on to her excuse fuel. I don’t know how soon the wedding is, but hopefully she can detox first and not turn wedding #2 into a shit show.
The reality is that her family, daughters, Monty, etc..are probably desperate for her to get into rehab. I doubt they would even want her to come to the wedding or “take care” of Monty if she was gonna use that as an excuse to not go to treatment.. If I were Brooke Id be as nervous as hell about my mom ruining my wedding after the spectacle she just made of herself publicly. I’m sure they could work something out for her to get a pass for the wedding, but That won’t be good enough for kim.. Just watch
Your admin edits are becoming hilarious and now I’m dying to know what I missed LOL
Okay, I’m about to sound like a cold-hearted bitch, but somebody’s gotta say it. Why does everybody assume she’s telling the truth every single mother fucking time she uses her family as an excuse for her bullshit. Look at her! Look at her behavior! Look at the way she lives! She could give a shit about what her kids think. Or Monty! She’s fucking using a dying man and her babies as a human shield to deflect attention away from her rampant stupidity. Shit, Kim?! Is this the fucking limbo dance?! How low can you go?!
Her brain is fucked up.
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The first thing I thought of is that Kyle is not the only one concerned about public perception.
Kim has been to several rehabs over the years & never really completes the treatment outlined for her. I think after a week or 2 in her mind she’s healed & lives….
I think this is absolutely PR spin and trying to save her job. I hope he gives it to her straight and calls her on her bullshit using clips from RHOBH episodes. I wonder if she will accept the help he will offer.
She needs to go to treatment for a long time-6 months (will they take you that long?) And then put her in a halfway house with sober people really working on recovery. Brandi would be a great addition to another episode for Dr. Phil and put her somewhere too, preferably far away. Thank you for letting us know, I will be taping it.
Brandi is a train wreck! She’s giving Eddie free ammo to take her kids away!! Brandi is a first class idiot!!! If you’re gonna act a fool in this day and time someone is recording it she’s really stupid doing it on TV
The celebrity rehab showed was full of people hust like Kim. Entitled, bratty and super resistent to help. Tough work to deal with people like that.
The pure insanity of this move just adds another car into the train wreck this entire Kim situation has become. As I see it, it’s all choice in popping that first pill, having that first drink, shooting, snorting or smoking whatever substance is the key to your brain lock when an addict. After that CHOICE, the sickness is unleashed; Kim’s is malignant, and I’ll watch every move. I hope that doesn’t make me a bad person, but admit I DO rubberneck at car wrecks.
I just hope the glare of this spotlight isn’t harsh enough to lead to untoward consequences, as much as I have come to dislike her.
Funny how the tables have turned in my estimation of these sisters. Kyle irritated the hell out of me as a middle aged woman and mother acting like a 6 year-old from whom attention has shifted at a function. “Look at MEEE!!!! I can FLIP my beautiful HAIR!!! I can still do a SPLIT!!! I can swing my HIPS!!! I can laugh LOUDER than anyone!!!” et cetera. The whole immature package irritated the hell out of me, but now I seem to be developing some degree of empathy for her.
Who’d have thought…:(
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How does she have a job? She’s not sober, abuses other cast members, and is a total liability. On top of that she has a vicious dog, doesn’t show up to filming, refuses to blog, directs interviews and is now slurring and mumbling to Dr. Phil? (Can you imagine calling your primary physician “Dr. Bobby”?) I am interested in what happens but will not give her/Phil the ratings/buzz they are looking for. (Thank you, TT, for taking one for the team!)
Part of me also doesn’t want to help ratings, either. Sadly, I’m too nosy and will have to tune in 🙂
I’m going to put all of my faith in Tamara on this one. I don’t need to see that shit. Besides that, I’ll probably be at work, contributing to society and shit.
Doing Dr. Phil might make it appear that they are tackling the mess, and somewhat defuse the situation, but it will be a double whammy because the bandaid will be pulled off the boo-boo all over again on April 28 when the show airs.
If it is true, Kathy did Kim a disservice by intervening to block the release of the mugshot. Seeing a totally disheveled, smeared makeup, wild hair, tear stained face plastered all over the media might have pushed her to rock bottom. Instead she is stopping shy of that. Can’t the press file a Freedom of Information Request?
I had the same thought re blocking the release of her mug shot. Has Nick Nolte been in trouble after that infamous mug shot of his? I don’t really want someone humiliated like that, but maybe it’s the slap in the face they need to admit they really DO need help.
The fact that it’s even possible for a private citizen to suppress something that’s ultimately police property and/or would normally be privy to public exposure and scrutiny should tell you there’s a whole bunch of stuff wrong with a whole bunch of shit. I am not advocating for any riots, BUT if it had been an Atlanta Housewife the mugshot would’ve been all over the internet by now. Case in point: Porsha. For a fucking speeding ticket too. Makes you think.
NOBODY wants their mug shot out there. But that is part of the humiliation of being arrested. I cannot think of another time this has not happened. I think some major media should press the BHPD over this.
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I do too. I don’t think anyone should get special treatment, no matter how much money they have. This just stinks, and whoever was bought out should be exposed too.
I’m working on that.
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You’re awesome TT. Slaying evil doers left and right these days. Fight the power! Lol
I understand avoiding rehab for wedding/Monty but I also don’t think there will ever be a convenient time for her to go. There will always be something better and more important than rehab. I think her family should give her an ultimatum, go to rehab or you are out and if you take rehab seriously, you get some carefully supervised weekend passes for these important events in your life.
Still can’t get over her bratty behavior last season. Talk about indulged.
“I imagine she may have pissed off Bravo by taking her story to another network. ”
Bravo is missing an opportunity to start a whole new cross-branding show under the umbrella of the concept of YOU BROKE IT YOU FIX IT.
how many marriages and personal lives have been exposed, problems exacerbated and lives destroyed on Bravo shows? Think of the possibilities!
Chop-chop Andy, I would think your beady little eyes would be glinting and saliva drooling over the possibilities. Egmit it!
That’s hilarious! Don’t forget bankruptcies!
Dr Phil always offers his guests rehab, therapy, etc, so hopefully that’s why she’s doing this- to get help. Otherwise, who cares. I think we’re all sick of seeing Kim’s phony “I’m sober and doing just fine” tv interviews.
Wow, Kim is desperate. Dr Phil is actually perfect to help her, although that’s not why she’s doing the show. She wants to put her lying spin on things to his extremely large audience. I hope he gives her a good old fashioned ass whooping when she lies to him and twists things around. He’s no fool.
Andy must be pissed. I’m sure it’s understood that Andy’s the first stop on the interview train when something this big happens.
She is working her CON. She has been lying for so long, she can’t just turn around and do an interview proclaiming she is fine. OK, she can and will, but it’s insincere. If anyone can call her out, it would be Phil; but he may go soft on her, due to her “celeb” status. More of the same in addict world.
My very first thought was that she did Dr. Phil to get the help she so needs and for free, understandable due to the fact that she had gone in many times and those costs have got to be an exorbitant amount when added up over the years. I figured the family nudged her towards Dr. Phil under that pretence, but probably felt he would be the one who would see through her BS and not be manipulated into allowing Kim call the shots, as that has not done her well so far. That he would be the one to not be manipulated and “git r’ done”. Reading that she may have not gone straight into treatment saddens me so much. I’m sad for her! For her family and friends yes,but mostly for her and the life experiences she has missed out on and the life she can have but is putting off and waiting to experience.
I wish she came to the conclusion that she could begin her detox (which she should do so safely as an inpatient) and get a pass (with a sober coach) for a day to attend her daughter’s (second) wedding ceremony. She could enjoy it even more because everyone would be supporting her and be proud of her and the choice she made. Waiting will only make her think of it as reporting to jail and give her time to manipulate those around her into not going at all, using every one of “life’s” happenings to not do it.
The thing that has my head spinning is that she will USE the “stressors” (Monty’s illness, her TV job, planning a wedding) she will claim brought her back into using again (I doubt she ever really stopped) and USE them as the reasons that she just cannot immediately check herself in…Unfortunately, I’m betting that if she does this and gets Dr. Phil to buy into it, she will not go to rehab right now and she won’t ever do it. That is unless she is ordered by the courts to do so, Bravo demands it or much, much worse!
Just wondering- do you think Dr. Phil spends private time with someone like Kim offering real help? If whoring themselves out as a PR scheme (Kim) or to make themselves relevant (Dr. Phil) would lead to something real, maybe it’s worth it. A one-on-one with Andy wouldn’t really fix anything, since it would only be part of the PR scheme. I totally get that Bravo would see interviewing with Dr. Phil as a network betrayal, but has Bravo made any accommodations for Kim’s sobriety? They certainly put a lot of temptation in her path. Also, the ladies drink around her much of the time. Also wondering if Kim feels free to network shop because Bravo has already canned her.
Mostly, Dr Phil’s popularity grew because of his catchy one-liners. Like: “how’s that working for you”? Sarcasm worked well for Phil. I say that’s what got people to start talking about him & getting them to tune in.
Why should she have a one on one with Andy? When I slammed Kyle for arranging a spa/wine tasting for her “recovering” alcoholic sister, Tamara corrected me and said it was Bravo (Andy) not Kyle who planned the day.
If that is the truth, and the cast is in on it, Andy would be the last one I would talk to, or anyone at Bravo.
Tamra the fact she went to Phil suggests to me she wants a broader audience than Andy and bravo..I think dr Phil pulls in more ratings but I could be wrong..maybe the doctor reached out to her? Or maybe Kathy arranged it but looks like Kim making a power move of some type
If Kim turned a corner and is honest with herself and sincere in her desire to get sober and repair broken relationships, I would watch her on RHOBH for another season. What a different season that would be. A humbled Kim living an honest life.
She’s exhausted her family, friends and children. Now, with few props to hold her in place, can she rally for herself? It may be her last chance. I hope she takes it, Dr. Phil or no Dr. Phil.
@Katherine- I think we were supposed to have seen that season already. It did not seem like it lasted very long. A humbled Kim would get herself off of tv and commit herself fully to a healthy, sober lifestyle. I don’t feel she’s honest in any way and it’s torturous to watch her.
It appears clear to me the only ones who could really get Kim into rehab are her children.. She is afraid of losing them and has said so.
If Brooke were to tell her she is only welcome at the wedding after starting rehab, and escorted by them, she3 might go. Otherwise, this conjecture is just that- and going nowhere. She is tired of rehab, has heard it all before ( blah, blah, blah) and thinks she knows it all.
The ingredient here that made it all more complex is the combination of drugs patches, and booze- which she has been led to believe left her sober- but she never was! She lost track of whether any “reason” could justify her taking a pill, for example, and came to believe her mixture of treatments still left her sober- which was not the case.
She has profound mental health issues on top of it- after all these years of abuse. Add that to this mix and Kim is a very seriously ill woman.
No amount of detox programs or rehab treatments will help her because she is just an asshole, plain and simple. She’s a selfish, shallow, spoiled little bitch. The drugs and alcohol are just a fun thing for her to do and a scapegoat so she can blame her behavior on them.
Everyone close to her worries about her fragile mental state, they worry that she’ll “off” herself if she ever really confronts herself and understands the extent of the damage she’s done. This is because they believe she’s an addict and the addiction is the issue.
She’s been addicted since her teen years, most likely, and she’s still going strong. She knows exactly what she’s doing. And has been in and out of enough expensive rehab facilities that have cost enough to have funded a full retirement for herself. She has known for years what her behavior has done to her spouses, her sisters, and most tragically, her innocent children. And she WILL NOT ADMIT A PROBLEM NOR MAKE ANY CHANGES. That in itself paints the picture of the extent of her selfishness.
Is there a Personality Transplant Facility that can remake that? I don’t think so, short of just lopping off one’s screwed up head. I’ve had the misfortune to run into a few Kims and from what I have experienced I don’t believe there is going to be a happy ending.
Nancy, I cosign this one million percent. I think it’s odd that everyone is so quick to label her an addict. I’ve known a few addicts in my time and, while they can be tough to deal with, most really want help and will take whatever help they can get.
Kim is different. She has a severe personality disorder (in my opinion) and just really likes getting all hopped up on drugs and drink. I think she gets a special kick out of using AA catch phrases to get her drink on and control those around her. It’s a special sort of glee that only borderline personalities can experience.
I guess I’ll get flak (again) for “diagnosing” her, but I think it’s odd how everyone has “diagnosed” her as an alcoholic/drug addict without considering other possibilities.
That girl will fuck up the life of anyone unlucky enough to be in the near vicinity.
It is possible that Dr Phil didn’t offer rehab as any decent psychologist/psychiatrist knows that rehab only makes a borderline personality worse. I’d be interested to see if that is the case.
On another note, I love Dr Phil and don’t get the hate. He was one of the premier psychologists in Texas when Oprah was going through her trial and subsequent mental exhaustion. I think she credits him with saving her life. She didn’t choose him because he was a slouch, she chose him because he was the best.
If you remember, before Dr Phil brought out his special brand of kick ass cognitive therapy, therapists were listening to patients whine about their problems for years. Dr Phil calls out the BS while still being compassionate. I’ve never seen him handing out free passes. I think he will have Kim’s number and I’m really looking forward to seeing the show.
I’ll admit, I couldn’t bring myself to watch any of the reunion because of the screeching involved. I will watch this though. I’m incredibly interested to see someone delve into Kim’s psyche. Lord knows, she’s never bothered to take the time.
People with personality disorders often have drug or alcohol problems. They are not mutually exclusive, and I would imagine that decent treatment would involve all aspects of her current problems.
As long as she is not dead, there’s hope for her. I don’t get everyone writing her off already.
The only problem a person with a borderline personality disorder has with drugs is if there is a shortage in the immediate vicinity. They don’t seek help (unless it is to earn sympathy) and don’t WANT help.
It is not recommended for them to be in rehab around addicts seeking help. They are toxic to the addicts and become worse users as they have learned more manipulative techniques.
Is that a fact? And who or what made these recommendations?
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. COULD YOU PLEASE STOP DIAGNOSING REALITY SHOW PARTICIPANTS? One post I can ignore but you do it three times a day, Gilette. STFU
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@Gilette, you rule. This whole thing is ridiculous, from Chimpan-A to Chimpan-Z. Absolutely right. Kim uses AA language as a form of Orwellian double-speak just so she can weasel her way out of the latest pickle she’s gotten herself into. Foul, awful woman.
Sigh. Your blog, your rules, TT. But somebody had to say it.
You have my predictions and let’s see if they come true.
There are some personalities for whom change is impossible. They are too reptilian brain, and are wired to mainly thnk of themselves and what serves theur purposes. I think to want to get off drugs and alcohol part of you has tohave empathy for those you are hurting with your addiction, and a desesire to not hurt them anymore, along with wanting it for yourself. Kim shows herself time and time again to have a disconnect with other peopk es suffering (the dog bites, deaths of others loved ones from addiction, her sister Kyle’s tears and trauma, her kids not liking that creepy boyfriend), to name a few Im aware of.
Alcoholism is sometimes a by-product of a personality disorder….I have been diagnosed with borderline personality……and, I am also a recovering
Alcoholic
Well said. Kim Richards is certainly selfish and shallow. Apparently she needs an inordinate amount of attention. Can we say deluded? She is making herself more and more dislikeable with every public action. I cannot stand her meanness but I’m glad she’s speaking to SOMEONE. If it doesn’t work out with Dr Phil she could try Iyanla Vanzant’s Fix My Life next. Ideally rehab and/or therapy should not take place in public but it’s Kim Richards and this is Beverly Hills darling, chi chi chi chi chi! Hypocrites that we are (in my household) we will all tune in.
Gilette – agree to disagree. Strongly.
Iyanla is really good I think, with working with family groups. I could see her working with Kim and Kyle and Kathy. Boy shed have her work cut out for her! I dont think theres anything to be accomplished there with that though. Not until Kim deals with her stuff. Theres no dealing with Kim in this state.
I watch Dr Phil pretty much daily. It’s a love/hate relationship, but the season that the opening has his commenting ‘Lets go make you better’ brings a little tear to my eye when I’m weak. HOWEVER, he treats the celebs with kid gloves and except Momma June, I don’t recall him ever calling any of them out on obvious bullshit. I’m prepared to not be impressed.
Such honesty! Such insight! “None of this would have happened if I didn’t drink.” So glad for the clarification. I had no idea her arrest for public intoxication had anything to do with drinking. Unless her family and friends are using this platform to stage an intervention, this interview is ridiculous. She didn’t even have time to detox from her last bender prior to filming. Are we really expected to believe that after 3 years of lying about her sobriety on RHOBH she will be truthful to Dr. Phil?
She had 8 hours in jail to think about things, or maybe she just fell asleep. This is just a travesty, the whole thing. I’m not watching, but have a little bit of hope for her after what you’ve all said above. I just hate adult spoiled brats and shouldnt even be watching bravo. And agree with the borderline diagnosis except she doesn’t self harm imo.
Yes, Rebecca I hear that. I think I continue to watch past their prime for a few simple reasons: 1) To truly absorb the fact that money can’t buy you class or love or confidence or good relationships or harmony, or just about anything else really valuable, and 2) the behavior and coping bar is so low that I don’t have to work hard to be a better person than 99 percent of these ladies. #needbetterrolemodels. 3) Mostly to come here, for my daily Calgon-take-me-away moments.
I have a hunch someone on her or Bravo’s PR team wrote that for her
I can not wait to see this . Dr Phill won’t give her a break, she’ll probably walk off set.
Boy this is going to sound so mean but if she cannot support Monty and uplift him WHILE HE IS DYING, then she is doing him no good at all. In fact all she did all season long was disparage Monty by telling everyone how “tough” it was on her. Well, it was never about YOU Kim, it’s about him. Like he doesn’t have enough to worry about dying and all, now he has to bare the burden of knowing that you fell off the wagon because of him? Her problems, sadly, go far BEYOND addiction in my opinion. She is beyond hope.
Exactly- and it feels like she had him move in- and was hurt when he moved back with his girlfriend- in order to have him for an excuse, in my mind. Sorry to say it, but it seems ot me she is using Monty and his pills. I would think Brooks would not want him in Kim’s home for obvious reasons, at such a sad time. It is too close for Kim.
You know what I love spending half an hour of my life on? Deleting comments about a person who is not on a reality shows medical issues. FROM COMMENTERS WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
You know what is even more fun? When some ASSHATS start telling me what to delete or edit in posts. Thanks a fuckload, asswipes. Next time I will simply take FIVE minutes to send the commenters to the window licking section.
TT: please edit all of my comments on every post to make them wittier, smarter, and more compassionate. Thank you. xoxo 🙂
Kim not making the best choices??? You lie! Dr Phil won’t tolerate her bs, let’s hope..
Someone needs to ask Andy how he feels about Kim talking to someone outside Bravo about the issues she kept shutting him up about. Bravo filmed her off the rails poker night,, “don’t talk about i”t, airplane crazy, “it’s done”, must make him feel warm and fuzzy all over. So next season just put muzzlles on everyone except Kim.
Andy needs to watch Dr. Phil and learn how to interview
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Total PR move to rehab her image. Dr. Phil’s demographics are women who may also watch housewives so it makes sense. Just in time for sweeps.
What I think she will do is say she relapsed just that one day from the reunion but is sober blah, blah, blah. I doubt she will confess that she hasnt been sober. Since I doubt Phil watches housewives, let’s hope that he is up to speed and can really cut through the piles of bullshit that Kim will be saying.
There is no way Kim was partying alone. Who the heck was she with??
Did Kathy paper the Polo Lounge with money for goodness sakes? Not a peep out of a busboy, the valets, or another patron!
Yes, this whole thing is Twilight Zone weird. Somebody should’ve said something by now.
Some body sure did. ALLEGEDLY.
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On the one hand, I agree, Kim is not the type to venture out alone. OTOH, plenty of people like me go out alone (back when I used to go out) a lot. I have been going out on my on since I could drive. If she was going to drink, she would not want witnesses.
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TT, Kim’s using Dr. Phil. The only thing she’s trying to rehab is her tattered image. My guess is that Andy Cohen LOVES it; Kim training out on the #1 talk show all wonky eyebrows, lies, excuses, and smeared eyeliner… Dr. Phil being stern, then making it all better. I’m disappointed he’s wasting his time, talent, and resources with Kim Richards.
I don’t watch Dr. Phil; in these situations, is it only the addict that is on the show, or does Dr. Phil bring on the enablers too?
The enablers are usually on the show, and Dr. Phil calls them out. The set isn’t big enough to hold all of Kim’s enablers. Dr. Phil would need a stadium.Kim would absolutely never submit to a drug screen for the show. Way too much reality!
If you take a look at the photo on this post you can clearly see who is there. But yes, he generally includes other people in the intervention, usually family.
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yes, I can see who is there during that nano-second of time.
I do watch Dr. Phil every now & then. Have seen shows he’s done with addicts. Sometimes the guest thinks they’re going for interview about specific topic/situation, but turns out they’re actually there for a major intervention–much to their surprise!
In these instances the family is involved & he often takes bloodwork or urine tests. So, by the time guest shows up & denies profusely he slams them with irrefutable scientific info with confrontation & they go directly to rehab.
No using addict would ever agree to the lab tests which makes me wonder if the guest’s medical power of atty (ususally close family member) is one who signs off on permission to test.
If Kim’s as out of it as she seems, the show could make up excuses as to why labs are needed. Maybe this is last ditch effort to get her help from her family.
Just a thought that occurred to me. Doubtful & far-fetched, but semi-plausible. If this theory is indeed the case, it would be best thing that ever happened to her! Here’s hoping! I will definitely be tuning in!!!
If this happened to me, I would be watching Dr.Phil from the jail cell, not on his show.
Great point
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When you resisted arrest and kicked the officer, they would have tased your ass. It wouldn’t surprise me if when the hotel called the police they referred to her by name, so they went easy on her.
Lmfao at the Doctor on Demand curve ball.
I don’t know why this ended up here. It was in response to one of Cat’s comments.
So, this is my first time commenting here–this is my go-to HW blog. I’ll usually got to Bravo, read the blog, and then come here to get opinions.
Okay, on to Kim and Dr. Phil.
For me, this was a difficult season to watch in many respects–so many truly awkward, uncomfortable moments–almost all having to do with Brandi and Kim.
(Speaking of Brandi and Kim–so not a good combo.)
And Kim–all season–has been fanatical about her three-year sobriety. And I just never bought it–in her interviews, she seems loopy like she’s on something or half in the bag.
(And maybe that’s just due to her mannerisms?)
Regardless, her getting busted for a D & D wasn’t exactly a shock. And Dr. Phil. Mixed feelings on him. I appreciate that he’s a straight shooter, but he comes across as a little shady to me.
I hope Kim gets the help she needs.
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