This week Kyle makes up for missing last week by giving us a double dose of RHOBH reunion reactions.
I’m so sorry about not writing my blog last week. My kids have been on spring break, and the last thing I wanted to do was think of the reunion and all of the emotions that I felt that day. I have been trying to put it behind me, but obviously it’s not easy to do when it’s played out all over again. I will do my best to combine last week and this week but not go on too much.
Seeing Yolanda so weak and vulnerable was so sad! She is always such a pillar of strength that all of us were taken aback to see her in such a fragile state.
When we were talking about Yolanda’s constant defending of Brandi, Lisa V. brought up Brandi’s comment to Yolanda about Bella’s DUI. Once again, Brandi goes into “Lie and Deflect Mode.” She knew exactly what she was doing when she threw 17-year-old Bella under the bus. At least Yolanda acknowledged that she knew what Brandi was doing when she did that.
So even a brain damaged woman is on to Brandi’s real motivations. I don’t think anyone is surprised.
Kim’s comment about being happy just as things are in our relationship was hurtful. So much has happened between Kim and me. Usually at the reunion, you hope to be able to have some resolution by the end. Clearly that wasn’t going to be happening with us.
Oh don’t be ridiculous. One can find resolution all on one’s own. The best resolution to this situation is to keep things just as they are, and Kim gave you a guilt free opportunity to do just that. For the love of God, quit interacting with her until she gets off the pills.
Trying to talk any sense into Brandi always results in a fight and her not taking any responsibility whatsoever. When she was again in denial and doing her usual deflecting regarding her behavior when she drinks, I brought up that her drinking isn’t limited to her time with the women as she claims. In fact, without cameras I find her to be LESS guarded about her drinking. She shot back with her (much overused) menopause jabs.
Brandi constantly trying to insult the women by calling us “Menopause Mamas” and saying “you don’t get your period anymore, bitch” is insulting to all women. It is a natural part of life. As far as I know, none of us has gone through menopause, but God willing, we will all get there one day. It’s demeaning to women to use it as a put-down. Just as calling me a “cunt” is. Nothing shocks me anymore with Brandi.
Brandi hates herself. Brandi is a woman. Ergo Brandi insults other women by insulting all things that make them feminine, periods, vaginas, children…
Hearing Brandi say that Lisa V. has “beaten the slap to death” and “won’t stop talking about it” is unbelievable. She has not stopped talking about me pushing her arm down when she was trying to block me from Kim at Eileen’s poker night. Why does she expect Lisa to drop her slapping her? More double standards…
I don’t think Brandi is really as aware of her behavior as one would think. #BlackoutSex
I don’t really know how to address Brandi’s comments about everyone, because nothing she says makes any sense to me.
Or anyone else. Have you tried reading the ghost written blogs? Oh wait, they make even less sense.
Her behavior toward everyone has been so disgusting, yet she seems to be the one who is angry at everyone. She is filled with so much anger and hatred that it is uncomfortable to be around. From texting Lisa R. that she is an anorexic old hag to her homewrecker comments about Eileen, telling Lisa V. that she was jealous Max’s friend didn’t want to fuck her…disgusting.
This is true, so could you please not go along with whatever script next season requires folks to be civil to her? Or better yet, band with LVP to have her kicked out?
Brandi cannot stand to see Lisa V. and me being friends again, laughing and having fun. So she has to make rude, snide comments. For the record, Lisa V. is not selling her house, and she has expressed regret for making a “flippant comment” about that in the past…We have moved past our issues.
I’m glad Kyle understands that Brandi is insanely jealous of Kyle in general and her relationship with LVP specifically.
In stark contrast, Brandi seems to enjoy the downfall of Kim’s and my relationship. Like she succeeded somehow.
I’m the first to say that my sister’s and my relationship has obviously had its ups and downs, but this has by far been the worst place our relationship has ever been in. I have seen how Brandi has tried to turn her against me. If she sincerely cared about Kim, instead of using her as a prop, she would want her family to be close to her.
With Kim, I am constantly being accused of things I didn’t do and made to feel that all our problems are my fault. I am tired of being blamed for everything and am at a point in my life where I just can’t do it anymore. There is some sort of relief when I see it played back on video and know that I am not crazy, and the events at Eileen’s did play out exactly how I remember it. But even after seeing it on camera, Kim will not admit that she was wrong and still wants to blame me. I know that whatever I do, she will find fault in. So why even bother trying anymore?
Exactly. Stop trying. Focus on your family. Portia is growing up fast.
There seems to be no recollection of the love and support that I have given her throughout our lives.
When Kim said she wanted to see where we were at, because there were a lot of things coming up that she needs to figure out, I knew she was referring to her daughter’s wedding. I lost it. Clearly. It’s been way too emotional and upsetting to me, and I couldn’t take it anymore.
Which was exactly Brandi’s plan. Don’t give her the satisfaction.
I’d really like to know what Kyle did at her daughter’s wedding. Did I miss a post somewhere? TT, can you throw out some feelers to your people in BH and find out? LOL!
Your feeding into Brandi’s behavior. Make a veiled accusation and then claim to be too polite to elaborate on it. She can’t elaborate because there is nothing to elaborate on! Just my opinion.
Oh, God, are you really scolding WhyOWhy for a totally legitimate question. It’s like #WhatDidHarryDo? Call Brandi’s bluff! Or maybe Kyle actually did do something horrific and somehow no one heard about it or reported on it until now. I mean, Kyle has been on the show for years, she can deal. Øö8i
Maybe your comment read to me different than intended, but it seemed really rude or condescending, for lack of a better word.
Stop trying to create controversy where there is none. I am just saying that Kim and Brandi like to throw out lies. No one is trying to “school” anyone. It’s called a comment with a happy face. Get a grip.
She/he does it a lot I’ve noticed.
Brandi said whatever Kyle (allegedly) did at Brooke’s wedding was ‘unspeakable’, which means if there is something to it, she will be yelling it from the rooftops when she can no longer contain it, or Kim, her partner in crime, gives her the green light to blab it to the world. At this point, I wouldn’t blame Kyle for anything she may have said, or how she said it. It’s two against one in that convoluted triangle and goodness knows, one on one is enough to make a lot of people go completely ham on them, much less two.
Huh? When did she say that? I missed that on the show.
Brandi is so desperate to get the villian tag off her and throw back to Kyle. I bet it’s nothing.
She and Tanya need to get together! Lol, it’s a joke!
Sorry that’s a reply to Micheal. Sorry Ginger!
It must be the same thing that Harry has done. I can only wonder what this smoking gun could be. I saw the first glimpse of the reunion#3, and I didn’t see any smoking gun. I suppose a smoking gun means new evidence that cannot be denied. I hope that have footage of Kim’s head in Monty’s bedside garbage bin.
Let us have an early prayer circle that if Brandi does go to the second wedding lets hope Kim’s son has had the talk.
Brandi wasn’t at the wedding. So whatever she is hinting at is either made up or came from Kim. Considering how delusional and what a liar Kim is, I doubt anything happened. And if it was so unspeakable and unforgivable, why was Kim still smiling and taking vacation pictures with Kyle for weeks after the wedding?
She probably said hello to Montys real girlfriend or caretaker.
Lmao! That’s exactly what I was thinking. Probably had a family picture of her family with the bride. I can hear it now “THAT’S MY DAUGHTER!! STOP TRYING TO HOG MY DAY!!!! THIS IS ABOUT ME Brooke I mean, Brooke.
This is the greatest comment ever.
Brandi is filled with fear and self loathing in Beverly Hills. The question is why?
I’ll answer this one. Brandi didn’t pay attention in school or try because she was lazy and thought being pretty made her entitled to getting whatever she wanted. So she dropped out of highschool to model. She modeled in the era of the super model when very many of these women became household names. But those that were successful were so, partially because they had work ethic, and Brandi was lazy so the peak of her career was doing a few high fashion runway shows as a filler for her more famous peers. She then married a young actor thinking he would just give her everything she wanted. But he cheated on her, a lot. Now shes found herself in her forties no longer as pretty, and after decades of being lazy and dumb she has no skills. So now she is angry because she felt entitled from the start and didn’t get what she wanted. So she hates the world and is mean, but if she doesn’t realize if she took responsibility for her life, and tried to better herself by quitting drinking, reading a book, and not trying to keep up with the Joneses or fish for her long gone youth, that she must just be a happy person. The end.
Yes, totally agree. Spot on! Why do women think that marriage is the answer to their dreams and aspirations when they have none of their own?
I do wish Kyle would just admit that Kim’s behavior is at least as awful as Brandi’s. They’re both addicts, and their behavior is very common in addicts. Watching Kyle and Kim was hard for me because I’ve lived Kyle’s side. I also thought I was crazy because that’s what my GF always told me. And then she’d calmly throw out outrageous accusations and sit back and watch me lose it, and then say I’m crazy. Kim did that exact same thing. But Kyle is really placing the blame on Brandi, when it’s not really Brandi’s fault, it’s Kim’s. Kim is an adult, even more so than Brandi, and she needs to be held accountable by her family but she never seems to be.
To be clear, I don’t defend Brandi in ANY WAY. They’re both awful human beings.
If you have to blame your nasty sister or a nasty bitch named Brandi, blame Brandi. Poor Kyle needs to keep as many channels open that she can. If blaming Brandi will allow to let Kim save face, keep the blame on Brandi. Gosh, I hate the cutesy way of spelling y with I.
Anyway you spell it, Brandi or Brandy is a white trash name. Just like Crystal and Tiffany. Everybody knows that.
Your ring is gorgeous, congrats on 30yrs.
Thank You.
I really feel sorry for Kyle. Kim has grudges that seem to come from the days she was a child star. She expresses that she bought Kyle’s first car and paid family bills, etc. Well, that wasn’t on Kyle – that would be on her mom. And if she was paying the family bills she did the same thing for Kathy but she chooses to go after the sibling whose husband has paid her bills when she couldn’t. She acts like a typical addict. She lies and diverts and deflects. I am sure Kyle has been to her house on more than one occasion smoothing things out for Kim’s kids when Kim was out of control. I feel sorry for Kim – to a point. Addiction is an illness. But she makes the choice over and over again to choose booze or drugs and hammer the people who try to help her. I am sure Kyle loves her sister but she has to be sick of all the drama and it has to have some impact on Mauricio and her family. I am sure they have all seen Auntie Kim behave badly and attack their mom/wife. At this point maybe Kyle just needs to let Kim know if she wants her help she will be there but other than a request for help she is stepping back. I think families who deal with addicts always have the fear in the back of their minds that the addict will kill themselves – either by suicide or an over dose. That is a powerful weapon for the addict and I think Kim know that. Since Kim has such a high opinion of Kathy maybe it is her turn to try and straighten things out for her. I get the impression Kathy listens to Kim but I don’t see much evidence from what Kim says that she actually helps her.
No contact. Kyle needs to go no contact with Kim. Addressing any issues will not help anyone for two reasons: #1. They won’t get resolved, as Kyle’s always gonna be thrust into the role of villain no matter how carefully she treads, and #2 That’s what Kim wants. Kim wants the attention. Recycling old drama, new drama, whatever, will give Kim a platform to dish out more abuse and live out her pathetic little narcissistic fantasy about being the victim and blaming others for her own mistakes in life. Kim loves the spotlight. It’s time to turn it off.
I think the main reason Kyle is so upset is because she loves her nieces and wants to keep her relationship with them.
Which she can do, just keep the door open to them and DON’T discuss their mom (Kim) when her nieces are around. They’re young adults, they’ll reach out to sane people and she could be one of them, even if it takes years.
@popcorn: good point. Can’t pretend to be fair if you aren’t looking at the whole situation.
Well said, Popcorn.
There’s truth to the idea that once you start abusing drugs, alcohol or whatever your addiction might be, your emotional growth stops. So looking at it that way, who knows who is more adult, Kim or Brandi. But personally my opinion is that Kim’s emotional growth stopped early. Therefore, even though Brandi is a train wreck, she at least functions better than Kim does on an emotional level. I always think Kim looks stupid when in fact it’s probably because that’s as far as she can go emotionally. She always seems like a little hurt kid when she’s arguing with Kyle, as if she believes everything that happened is how it really happened. With Brandi, you can tell she just makes up shit as she goes along.
Anyone ever see the movie Whatever happened to Baby Jane? Sounds a little like Kim to me !! Spoiled brat that will never grow up, always living in the past. So what if Kim did pay for household things and cars, like it was said that was her parents that let that happen. I think she stays on Kathy’s good side because she can pull the wool over her eyes and she can’t with Kyle. Kyle knows what Kim is like and Kim doesn’t like it.
Originally I despised Kyle. She reminded me of the rich mean girl bitches that went to my high school and made the lives of so many people a living hell. I have slowly warmed up to her. Her pain concerning her sister is very real and I feel for her.
For me, Kyle has actually always been one of my favorites. Even when she was a giant bitch to Lisa. She’s an attention whore, she cries at the drop of a hat, she’s just as back-stabby and vindictive as any of them, but there’s just something about her that I’ve always liked. And I’m sure at some point (probably in TT’s comment sections) that I’ve hated her, and at the time, I probably did, but she always has been one of my faves.
Kyle does not bother. In fact shes probably one of the most down to earth HWs. Yes she and her husband rich as hell, yes. Does she act all stuck up and above it all when it comes to her money, no. Unlike her bestie Bethenny who claims to be the wealthiest homeless person ever.
Just some observations on the photo with Kim and Kingsley, her furniture looks like it’s taking a beating, wonder what would cause that? In the background it looks like Halloween decorations around her hearth didn’t the serious bite to Kyles daughter happen then? Haven’t really seen any new photos posted of him since. Is she harboring the fugitive? What in the hell does she have wrapped around his neck that looks all twisted? Is she trying to pass off a scarf as an in fashion dog leash?
Good eye, Sherlock! 🙂 I think she’s got hold of that scarf to keep the poor mutt from taking a chunk out of the photographer. And is that really a Halloween decoration…maybe it’s her interpretation of Kyle. Do you see any pins sticking out of it?
Love Kyle, but the denial is still in the way of her finding some peace for herself. You nailed it about Brandi. She does hate herself. The age-ist insults (menopause, hag, dried up) is def a trend with younger women. Porsha threw the age difference insult @ KM her first season. Fingers crossed that either Kim or BG are dumped!
ITA! Can we pray, or cross our fingers that both get a rejection letter?
I’d love to see them both go. There are plenty of people who can bring the drama without being nasty, nasty people.
It is weird, isn’t it? How Brandi uses this age thing to compare herself with everyone? Like this is some big achievement? I think Kyle is several years younger than Kim. And Brandi is only a few years younger than Kyke. Yet Brandi is slinging all these menopause comments around. Really? Is that all ya got, Brandi?
Not only that… But why is menopause even on the plate? It’s the most stupid insult I’ve ever heard.
I couldn’t agree more. When she constantly make remarks about age and menopause, it’s like she thinks it will never happen to her. Stupid about sums it up.
Brandi uses menopause insults to make us think she’s sooo much younger than everyone else. In reality, all it does is remind us how close in age they really are. Give it up, Brandi. You’re not a teenager anymore, no matter how immaturely you act. Gah, Brandi is exhausting.
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Brandi doesn’t even look younger than Kyle nor Eileen. But she does look like blimp it though.
Brandi’s continual use of references to menopause and other agist remarks has made me rethink the Vivica Fox alleged “phone stealing” incident on Celebrity Apprentice.
I have never heard Kenya make any agist remarks against anyone, and has been the recipient of them by Porsha.
I think it is more likely that Brandi was the one responsible for the tweet on Vivica’s phone..
That’s what I think!
I think the exact same thing. Menopause seems to be in Brandi’s vocabulary quite often. I bet she was the culprit.
Brandi totally did it. She got both Vivica & Kenya in one shot. Diabolical! See what she can accomplish when she’s sober-ish…
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I’m sorry guys help me but didn’t her daughter already get married or is this another?
Apparently she is having a second wedding. I’m hoping we hear why at some point! Seems like a silly waste of money!
Look back one post, it’s explained there, and money is no object for the groom’s family.
I used to think that Lisa V. was the one who had all the power with Bravo, Andy, etc…now I’m starting to think it’s Kyle who controls who comes and goes. If that is true, Brandi and Kim should start packing their bags.
What makes you say that? I certainly hope it’s true because Brandi and Kim would be gone for sure.
Kyle would never take Kim off the show. She is the one who got her the job. In a PS on her blog she asked people not to be unkind on twitter, that Kim and Kyle are family and she loves her.
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kyle wont rally to get Kim off the show even though the fans been asking and damn near begging for it for years. Plus, All three sisters have the same manager.
I have heard that Kyle is some kind of producer for the show and in the past has insisted that Kim be a part of the show. If it is true, it would explain a lot.
We have had some serious addition in our family and I believe that Kyle’s redaction is real. I think she ran and tried to make you self as small as possible to avoid conflict. That is my take on the situation. Just my $.02
I think Kim’s income is limited. She needs this gig, otherwise family is stuck paying her bills.
Kyle isnt a producer. But she brought on the main characters first the original cast with the exception of Taylor who was brought on by Adrienne.
I thought that too. I have since decided that she just plays the game well. However for the 2nd reunion, I think the points, set and mat go to Eileen with Lisa R a close second
Kyle needs to keep her distance for awhile for her own sanity, and not let the situation affect her own family. Kim won’t get help as long as she has Brandi backing up every nutty thing she says or does. Kathy is by far the eldest. Kim may have had more initial success, but Kyle is the prettier, younger sister. She has a happy and an apparently stable marriage. I know from my own experience that parents can tend to sympathize and side with the sister that isn’t doing as well. I wonder if that’s what Kathy is doing? Then again, maybe the speculation that she is just pissed that Mauricio struck out on his own, and Rick has lost all those commissions, is spot on. Geez with that family, I’d say that was a pretty smart decision!
Hmmm brandi seems to be one sick mange puppy!!! Is it possible she could be a sociopath? I do my best to avoid liars I worked with someone who constantly lied it was horrible! Katma is very real! You can’t go around thinking your only contribution is conflict!
No. She’s just a cunt. I think labeling her with anything other than that is a way for her to have an out and garner sympathy. She is just a vile, vile human. Who really needs someone to put her in her place.
I spent anotherafternoon in denial. ( who watches ‘re runs of previous reunion seasons?) HOWEVER, it is patently obvious to me that Kim is medicated now, as opposed to season 3 or? I’ve said before that I believe her choice of addiction is prescription meds. I stand by that. Alcohol is not her problem. She looks and acts tweaked. Her skin and face? Actions? DRUGS. Kyle needs to walk away. I am so sickened that they allow someone like Brandi on TV, that I can’t do anything but fast forward. Oh, and pray that I could take her deposition someday!
I agree. Her face and her expressions are different. Maybe she is drinking, too, but she is so much more aggressive and pugnacious now that it makes me think she is on drugs.
100% agree that Kim has been abusing Rx meds through nearly every season. Watching her behavior, especially at the reunion, it seems she’s never truly committed herself to working a recovery program. Taking responsibility for your actions and how they have affected those around you is key. Instead of being introspective and apologetic for all of the insanity she has brought those around her, she is blaming them.
Kim and Kyle are doomed to continue crying, screaming and dramatically thrusting pointed fingers in each other’s face for years to come. Sad and very unpleasant to watch.
Accepting responsibility is a “becoming” thing for many in 12 step programs. For some addicts, it takes years to complete this step. Even without a substance problem, it is very difficult to take a true inventory of our life and actions. The idea of Kim being on a dry drunk has crossed my mind. If you’ve ever been around anyone going through one, a part of you almost wants to give them a drink b/c they are very mean and nasty. Oh, that sounds just like Kim.
I’ve always thought Kim’s drug of choice is narcotics. Probably cocaine too, if it’s available.
In the interview with Andy (season 2 maybe? He did a seperate interview with her when she got out of rehab, I think) he point blank asked her (paraphrasing here) “what we’re you using”? Her answer was “I’m an alcoholic”. Some people find that an easier answer (especially when the public is watching, I would think).
I always thought that in America it was easier to explain a prescription addiction?
I guess I don’t know, as I don’t really know how the rest of the world works or where you are from, Micheal?
I can tell you that I think it’s probably pretty hard to get narcotics here unless you have a legitimate reason. That said, there are still crooked doctors for sure. However, a new database was implemented in the states… when you are prescribed meds and have them filled, all pharmacies can go on the database to find out if you are getting a boatload of narc’s filled. It prevents people from getting multiple perscriptions and Doctor hopping.
And there is also always the dealer, too. Lots of dealers sell scripts illegally.
Pip, dear. You know those ads for “pain clinics” on every bus bench? Narcotics are super easy to get. You go to one. Explain your excruciating pain and leave with a legal script. The government keeps trying to shut them down.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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God… I totally misread your comment after re-reading it.
Sorry.
I guess I don’t necessarily think that’s true? But I don’t know. I could be wrong.
Yeah I just thought that it would make more sense for Kim to say she had a prescription problem rather than alcohol. There is an inference of less irresponsibility with a prescription addiction, I guess. People jusy blame the doctor for prescribing too heavy a dose. You can’t use that excuse with alcohol or cocaine.
@micheal: if she said she had a prescription problem, she would be admitting to it. doctors, family, friends, and viewers would pay attention to her prescriptions and her pill-popping and then she’d be held accountable and probably stopped. She doesn’t want to stop. Doesn’t want the knowing looks…
I think that Michael meant that a prescription med problem is maybe more socially acceptable than drink or street drugs, because no criminal activity and the stigma with alcoholics is that they’re sloppy and have no will power. She might be on opiates. Who knows.
Michael, had she admitted to a prescription addiction, she would not have access to prescriptions in the future.
In other words, she can still be prescribed drugs as an alcoholic that she would not have access to as a drug addict.
Likely her reasoning.
Gilette totally got it right. I guess I misunderstood your question. But I agree, this is most definitely the reason. If her Doctor(s) were aware she had a problem with perscription medication, they would stop prescribing them.
Kim is slick though… She’s been around. I am sure she would find another Doctor.
My brain is mush tonight. I am averaging three or four hours of sleep a night (this seems to happen when the season changes).
Thanks Minky, that is what I meant. What the other’s say does make sense. I’m just looking forward to Kim becoming irrelevant.
I mean…Sharknado 3 people…Sharknado 3.
Kim seems so proud of Sharknado 3. Like it means she is a working actress. But, in reality, they cast has-beens & dlisters as punchlines. Sad, delusional Kim. She’s never going to be taken seriously as an actress
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Just like in Australia, we here in the States are all different people, so it totally depends on the individual when it comes to alcohol vs prescription drug abuse. If you want to look really hard for generalizations, demographics do play a role, but we aren’t clones and we aren’t aliens.
I was referring to what is culturally accepted and what is culturally stigmatized. I know Americans are not aliens. However, sometimes there are vast differences with what is stigmatized there as opposed to down under.
Michael, I think that it is more socially acceptable anywhere to say you have a prescription medication problem. Many people get in trouble when prescribed drugs during an ailment or after an operation and it becomes addictive. However, I do think there is much more compassion for alcoholism than ever before. Gillette nailed it when she said that Kim probably wont admit to it so she can keep getting prescriptions.
RE: Michael’s interest in the gradated stigma of various substances. Josie is right about compassion, but I believe there is less understanding and/or acceptance. The American Protestant bloody work ethic demands iron-willed perfection 24/7, (Yolanda is a great example of this on the show, even though she’s Dutch, but whatevs). You can’t show any fucking weakness, so having appetites and indulging them openly without apology simply does not fit into that equation. This goes for food as well, not just chemicals and sex.
The high class drugs are things like coke and scripts, esp. among well-to-do housewives. Alcohol seems like an all or nothing issue. Either one is a lush or not. I don’t feel that there exists a perception, at least in the U.S., that one can be only somewhat of an alcoholic. (E.g. a little bit pregnant)
There is the issue of binge drinking, where, for example, folks save their over imbibing and unruly drunken antics for the weekend, vacations, Christmas, but whatever. Fact is, rich folks don’t frequent crack houses. Ergo, the acceptability regarding your drug of choice depends on your socioeconomic status. However, as Counselor Mackie on South Park has told us: “Drugs are bad, mmkay.”
Minky! An intelligent commenter who gets me. I’m in love.
â/raises eyebrow.
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On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@Tamara-
Haha. We don’t have those ads on the bus benches up here. (At least that I have seen). But I wouldn’t notice, anyway. I have worked with Nurses as well as patients who were totally addicted to pain meds. You’re right. Some of them did have “chronic pain” of one form or another. They went to “pain management clinics”. I can’t speak to whether or not their pain was legit. I suspected it was not. But I always did have some suspicions about pain clinics, now that you mention it.
@Josie and Minky- totally agree with you both!
@ Michael I think alcohol is still the most accepted addiction. It’s something many people can relate to. Lots of people have a parent or grandparent that was an alcoholic whereas prescription abuse, while not new, hasn’t become as common as alcohol abuse until the recent decades. Also if kim said she abused narcotics then she’d have to stop. Where’s as saying alcohol allows her to just quit drinking which was likely not the real issue for her. It’s like stopping eating baked goods for lent when your real sugar addiction is chocolate.
Tamara, dear! If that Focker was meant for me, please don’t worry. We can share Michael, honey. It’ll be fun. ;0)
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr He is such a little flirt.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@microop That is a difference with OZ then. We always have stories about 1%, athletes and oz celebs get addicted to prescription drugs all the time. It isn’t as demonized as alcohol abuse. Usually it is explained away by the negligence of a doctor. That was all I was trying to discuss.
I think it may have to do with the damage alcohol has had on some indigenous communities in Australia. To the point that alcohol is illegal in certain indigenous areas.
@micheal: every month I have to drive to my pain doctor to physically pick up a triplicate pain rx (one for me, one doc keeps, one to DEA). It has to have everything written in the doctors handwriting, signed, and cannot be postdated. It has several watermarks and changes color when you touch it with the heat of your hand. (Harder to counterfeit than money.)
I then have to see if my pharmacy has my meds, because they don’t like to keep it stocked, even though they know exactly how many pills I need a month, they can’t pre-order with an rx…which can’t be postdated! So, sometimes my area is out. Every pharmacy for 15-35 miles and I’m driving around, now sweating with a pain fever (lord knows you can’t get an early prescription without coming in for an appointment, which you can’t because your doc books 6 weeks out). Basically, after over 12 years and 30 surgeries and knowing all the pharmacy workers in a 35 mile radius, I get treated like a junkie. Junkies don’t get treated like sick people here.
(I moved after my divorce, and 2 years later I’m still trying to find pain management. I want to move to Thailand for a year or 2, then settle in hawaii, but I can’t because I don’t have anyone who will write my script.)
Brandi is such a liar that she could beat a lie-detector test. Kim is so brain dead that she too could beat a lie detector test.
They’re too inebriated to beat a drum. Kim needs a lie detector test to check in with truth and stop cruising da Nile. She deserves a straight jacket.
Kk Bella, I agree with you also. I think Kim’s issue has always been drugs with a side order of booze thrown in. I see definite perscritption drug abuse and my guess— ONLY MY OPINION —is roxys, although obviously I have no clue, just my own experience watching someone I love destroy their life. It began with my regularly perscribed pain meds (basic vicodin, loratab, then Percocet and finally escalated very quickly to roxys) super expensive on the street and causes the face picking crap too. I find it so irresponsible for her and Brandi to be on the show.
Yes KatherineNola and cawoman23- the mood swings, skin, eyes, slight slurring, and her simple memory loss. You could say alcohol, but this is prescription med behavior to me. It’s harder to recognize, but to those of us that have seen it… And her righteousness- if she were clean, and focused, she would be all over the apologies and humble. Not staunchly defending her actions. Sad.
She looks like a meth head. I know that is mean, but she does.
I personally have never believed it was an alcohol issue for Kim. That scene where she’s on the bathroom floor in Hawaii trying to pick everything up…whew! Girlfriend seemed high as a kite. I also think that they claimed alcohol because it is more acceptable than a drug issue. Either way Kyle needs to learn to cut Kim off and live for herself. She’s dealt with her sister’s issues and problems long enough.
I completely agree. I hope Kyle lets those nieces and nephew know she’s always there for them and cut that sister off.
It isn’t just an alcohol issue. Kyle wont say because she has said in the past if Kim wants to talk about sobriety or not being sober that would be Kim’s place to tell. So with that Kim wont be saying shes a obvious drug addict anytime soon or ever.
Seen a video clip on YOUTUBE a couple of years ago of Kim at an airport. A fan, or just a curious onlooker started filming Kim on his camera phone. She was saying to him, “Don’t you know who I am? I am Kim Richards”, as if he was suppose to be impressed. She was high as a kite, and was riffling through her purse for her pills. I cant recall if it was the same clip or another, that airport security had her detained and she was acting a fool, with SECURITY.
Kim might have worked hard to remain sober, but I think she just switched one high for another. Pills vs. Alcohol. She’s so helpless…she had no idea that taking Monty’s pain meds, would make her react that way. I call BS!! Kim is a get high MF, she wanted to get HIGH!! If she was so sick, she would of went to a Doctor and get treatment. That’s what non addicted people would do.
I saw that video too, Gemini…I remember it just as you said.
Re video clip of loopy Kim. I want to see!!! Will search! Thanks for info ladies.
Brandi saw how Kim got people talking by throwing out what harry did so she is now throwing out what Kyle did. If BG had anything on Kyle, she would have blurted it out by now.
I think Kim is extremely jealous of Kyle and Brandi feeds the hate and jealousy so Kim feels free to push Kyle away. Kim also wants to be in denial. I do feel she is also jealous of Kyle’s relationship with her kids. Let’s face it, Kyle must have to have been there a lot through all these years of addiction.
Let’s face it? They also seem to love their mom, at least that one who went to college.
The kids are adults. They are free to see Kyle as they please.
I thought Kim said that she doesn’t know if she’s going to invite Kyle to her daughter’s wedding because they aren’t speaking right now. But commenters are saying Kim & BG implied that she won’t be invited because Kyle did something bad at a past wedding. I’m confused. What did I miss?
Oops! Just read TT’s recap of BG’s blog. Read the accusation. I’m caught up.
Now I’m wondering why Brooke is having a 2nd wedding. Is it the same groom? Is this like the 2nd baptism Thomas & Katherine had for their daughter on Southern Charm?
Kyle said on Twitter that they moved up the wedding so Monty could walk down the aisle with Brooke. That was the one we saw on the show. The second one is the original one that was planned before they knew Monty was terminal. Personally, I think they had one for show to show Monty being ill. Kim’s original story line. Wasn’t the wedding before poker night?
Lady Cocotte—–“Is it the same groom?”
MADE MY DAY.
Bwahahahaha! Totally like the second baptism! Love it!
Kyle has definitely grown on me. I still think she’s a sneaky person who is obsessed with appearances and “keeping up” in Beverly Hills, but behind all of that I think she has a kind heart. I can’t imagine what she’s gone through over the years with Kim and now that everything is coming to surface, I can’t help but be empathetic towards her.
I’ve always got the feeling Kyle likes being liked. When the limo thing happened her popularity took a hit and even when she was crying and carrying on the bus after Kim going crazy in Amsterdam she doesn’t like when Kim fucks up and she gets blamed for Kim’s behavior.
At the least Kyle doesn’t like being disliked. She gets very upset by mean tweets to her and constantly tries to explain herself to people who do not deserve and explanation. Like us.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m thrilled to see that many commenters also surmise what I do.. Which is that drugs are Kim’s true problem, not alcohol. Kim was using drugs on the season she relapsed with the strange guy sucking edemame and sniffling.. Many here believe its pain pills and I agree BC she’s probably helping herself to montys meds.. But I think crystal meth is absolutely a factor with Kim as well.
I’m thrilled to see that many commenters also surmise what I do.. Which is that drugs are Kim’s true problem, not alcohol. Kim was using drugs on the season she relapsed with the strange guy sucking edemame and sniffling.. Many here believe its pain pills and I agree BC she’s probably helping herself to montys meds.. But I think crystal meth is absolutely a factor with Kim as well.
Didn’t Andy try to get it out of her during their 1-on-1 reunion after rehab? He was like:
Andy: “So, you went to rehab.”
Kim: “Yes, for alcohol.”
Andy: “So you went for alcohol addiction and…”
Kim: “Just alcohol. I only have a problem with alcohol.”
Andy: (side-eye) (scrunchy brows) (question mark face) (twisted disbelieving lips) “okay…”
Yeah .. If you watched that season when Kim was running around with the pudgy guy who wore sunglasses indoors.. She was rummaging thru her purse and couldn’t get out the door .. Looking for her stash.. That is crystal meth effects.. Forgetfulness and confusion.. And maybe also the effects of pain pills?? I don’t know but I’m certain she wasn’t searching for alcohol in her purses.
@lisa: I think the Crack terminology is “carpet sniffer”. Her and puggles in the limo and hotel room (with all their belongings), constantly sniffling and acting bugged out. It looked like snorting/smoking crack or meth behavior. She doesn’t seem to have 5hat sleepiness/lethargy from abusing pain meds or downers.
@Shay-
Totally. That’s how I remember that interview, as well.
There are so many comments here that I agree with yours often, but Jesus! I feel like Yolanda this whole week. I can’t focus/ read… I am really having a hard time replying to everyone I want to. And I don’t feel like I convey at all what it is I am trying to say.
Kim seems like the experinental type of girl. Pills… alcohol…coke…
I just never bought it was just alcohol with her. Shes been at for 30yrs odds are shes done most of the popular Hollywood drugs.
Wasn’t it even Brandi who called out Kim doing meth in the bathroom on mean girls night?
I’ll go with the meth for up, and the prescriptions for down and numbing. Her change in skin? The aggression? I’ll never forget when Dr. Paul asked her what meds she took. It was a long list. I have also recently been educated on the rampant use of meth among suburban housewives. HOW fucking stupid can you be?
Kim is so REPULSIVE!!! I mean, this is crazy. I do not “hate” people, especially people I have never met that I see on tv. But I swear, watching her brings out HATRED in me! I think she is such a despicable, foul person. I swear to god if she dropped dead I would not give one single shit. All of her grotesque faces she makes, smirks and laughs like she is in the right and other people are just so absurd and ridiculous to be saying whatever it is they are saying to her. (Usually pointing out how her behavior was totally rude and inappropriate or how she misremembers some event.)
I wish I could step into Kyle’s body for the reunion and just lay into her. I mean, the other women are trying to keep it classy while still speaking their minds, but I wish someone would just really call her out for the nasty, cruel junkie she is. How her drug-addled brain cannot properly duplicate events and how she is just lashing out at everyone that doesn’t immediately agree with her atrocious behavior.
I have been lurking here for years but my hatred for Kim has finally pushed me to write a post. I just had to express it to someone! And in my circle of friends we really don’t talk about reality shows lol.
Shay.. You are 100% right… Total carpet sniffer. Lolol and I’m quite familiar with the whole meth scene.. (My ex)… I recognized Kim’s behavior immediately and I was wondering if anyone in america watching realized she was TWEEKING!!! She was not drunk ! Of that I’m positive .
YES LISA!!!!!!!!!! My uncle is an alcoholic…I know feening for the bottle when I see it, and I know drunk when I see it, and considering she was talking and able to b responsive I was like not drunk or drinking…but her anxiousness, talking fast, can’t sit still, nodding like she was listening but not really…I was like yeah, she’s comin down!
@lisa: Im not sure why so many say it’s pain meds… above someone described escalating pills from vicodin (hydrocodone) to lortabs (hydrocodone and aspirin) to percocet (oxycodone and tylenol) to roxys (oxycodone). All immediate release pain meds of about the same strength, dependent on rx. I’ve never seen anyone get hyped like kim unless they have ADD and downers become uppers. Kim is up. Way up.
If I stepped into Kyle’s body, I’d get my entire family off TV. Not saying that would cure Kim, but they’d stand a much better chance of making real progress. Not saying Kyle should have to leave because of her sister’s issues, but, God, give up your 15 minutes, Kyle, and perhaps Kim, if she is indeed jealous, will have an easier time leaving the public eye.
***Also, I really believe that being on the show has to make it more difficult to admit you are out if control, especially when Kim’s dug herself into such a deep hole.
@Shay, yes I hear you.. I think the reason ppl were saying Kim is on pain pills is BC she admitted to taking one of months Roxy’s.. But I believe she’s a ” garbage can” addict and will ingest anything nearby. You are spot on tho.. She is amped and that’s from meth or crack. Not to mention, she’s bony again. She’s always been thin but when she got sober, her tummy came back. You can see it in last years reunion they’ve been airing.. But when she’s using, she’s a bone.. And kyle knows it and was trying to get her to eat pizza. Good observations !!! 🙂
Lisa R tried. I liked it when Lisa said, “you will not speak to me like that:, and I was so happy, then Andy interrupted, and shut Lisa down. Why? Kim was so dismissive and disrespectful, she had just called Lisa “mouth, over there”. I would of ignored Andy and told the bitch off.
@badger101 Yes to your post. All of it. Welcome to the new addiction of posting on this site.
Brandi is just mean…I don’t live anywhere near California ( I live in the mitten) BUT I wish I could be a housewife just to call her out and be like “Brandi…you just mean….you mean as hell!” I feel like the LVP, Rinna, and Eileen could kinda give a shit if Brandi talks about them or even thinks about them, cuz they view her as pathetic and evil but Kyle…she has more at stake here. I wish one of the girls would have turned to Kim and said That girl (brandi) is a problem…what kind of a person wants to see that much contention between 2 sisters? Don’t get me wrong not all sibling relationships are amazing, but when things were a lot better when a certain person wasn’t around, who can comment so flippantly that two sisters hate each other and not attempt to at least say “maybe you 2 should talk”, has some serious issues within themselves to want to keep the other person all to themselves and it’s just wrong. Brandi is all sorts of wrong and that’s not saying Kyle is an angel, she’s not, but her and Kim were doing a heck of a lot better when Brandi wasn’t interfering, it’s just freakin sad!
I love meeting people who live in the mitten. So adorbs.
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Where the hell is the mitten? It IS kind of adorbs!
Michigan. When you meet someone from Michigan they hold their hand up like a mitten and point to where their city is on the mitten. Unless the are Yoopers. Yoopers don’t live on the mitten at all but on the upper peninsula. They are also fantastic lovers. So I have heard. Allegedly.
I kind of love people from Michigan and tend to overlook the whole Yankee thing. 🙂
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Yeah, I think we all agree if we have to be a state based on an article of clothing…A mitten ain’t too shabby. Not to mention we can show people where we live on our hand…we’ll except if you live in (dun dun dun) the U.P. There’s still a long term mini war between us and them but we love it!
Heh I replied before reading this. You know what would be funny is if guys from Florida pulled out their… Oh nevermind. That’s just crazy talk.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Michigan! And I’ve only heard rumors about the UP… Scary mythical land! Where are you exactly, Kei? My cousin moved to Kalamazoo, which I wasn’t 100% sure was even a real place until she confirmed it for me.
Mitten= MICHIGAN!!!
FUN FACT: Those of us who live in the Mitten just call ourselves Michiganders But we also have a top half to us that’s called the U.P. (upper peninsula) and they call themselves YOOPERS (pronounced like you-per)…they call us who live in the Mitten TROLLS cuz we live under the bridge you have to go over to get to them!
My ex is from Green Bay and also used the mitten/hand to show me where things were!
I’m from Wisconsin and when I read “the mitten state” here I was so excited to be from the same state as Brandi’s ghostwriter. LOL. I see more of a mitten when I look at Wisconsin. Maybe I’m biased!
Or blind?
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Ha! Michigan does look more like a mitten, but I am also in Wisconsin and I know people here have used their hand to point out what part of the state they are from. 🙂
That’s Re Todd Did! IJS
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@kei MITTEN-learned something new again here. Love it. Adorable. go Michigan and Mittens. 🙂
THIS Michigan/Mittens talk is fun. Makes Californians seem sane.
You wish. The Michigan crew is just adorably slow. Californians are looney tunes. 🙂
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m sorry, I don’t mean to sound stupid, but what are “roxys”? And even if Kyle is one of the producers on that show, can’t she refuse to film with Kim and or Brandi like Dina Manzo did with Danielle Staub? I get the part about the Bravo paycheck helps support Kim, but sisterly love should have SOME boundaries. Kims demise is the eventual outcome of her destructive behavior, but Kyle has to make up her mind that she’s not going to let Kim take her out with her. After all, she can’t control another grown human being anyway. That’s just my opinion, and I’ve only dealt with alcoholism in my family.
Roxy is the street name for brand name Roxycodone. Roxycodone was a brand name oxycodone. Oxycodone is immediate release (IR) and lasts 4-6 hours orally ingested. Oxycontin is oxycodone extended release (ER) with a wax that makes half the dose release at 45 minutes and the other half at hour 6.9. [When oxycontin – brand name oxycodone CONTINUAL time released dose came out, street folks had to differentiate between IRs/immediate release or ERs/extended release. Somehow the oxycontins/ oxycodone ER became “oxy” or “OCs” and oxycodone/oxycodone IR started being called “Roxy.”]
Oxycodone has been generic/cheap for years, so “roxy” and “oxy” only used by addicts or in street terms. Pain patients call them oxycodone and oxycontin.
I can see how one could get addicted to oxy very easily. When I broke my shoulder I was on that for a couple of weeks, and it is a definite mood elevator. If you suffer from depression, it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. However, it is extremely constipating, like rolling around on the ground in agony constipating, which would (imho) totally not make it worth it.
@gessiewtf
I had two surgeries where I had to take Percocet. Yes… I liked that feeling too.
I’ve seen people go through hellacious withdrawal, tough. I’ve seen almost every form of withdrawal. It’s a great eye-opener. Something you never want to go through.
@shay thanks for explaining it better than me who introduced the term to this discussion. This is what my sibling was doing and it all came
Tumbling out thru her and family day-joyful. Not. When on enough she was very hyped up. Again, appreciate the explanation. I actually never knew the real terms, only her ghetto/trash talking street term. Yes, national sibling day was yesterday but at least I didn’t throw flaming dog shit at her door.
🙂
Your mood might have been better because you had less pain. Oxycodone actually inhibits seratonin and dopamine, making people depresses and in more pain with longterm use.
@katherinaNOLA: I’m a chronic pain patient (several disc bulges with nerve root impaction, jaw dislocated on both sides, damaged occipital nerves, traumatic brain tumor) and deal with people confusing my dependency for addiction and think that I feel what abusers feel “euphoria/high.” I try to explain it like this: addicts use prescriptions to escape life, people dependent on medications use it so they can participate in life.
I think this is why I get so pissy about people who act like Xanax is some horrible street drug, which I guess it is. But for those of us with panic attacks, it’s a life saver. I can’t for the life of me figure out what benefit people who take it recreationally get. I take it when I am very anxious in a very small dose and just feel normal. I am practically narcoleptic anyway so if I take a half mg more I just get sleepy. Which is great on long flights, but not some exciting “drug.”
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@shay and TT : shay, you nailed sis with the addict discription and I’m sorry you are dealing with such horrible chronic pain. It sounds awful. TT, I hear you re the Anxiety as I take klonopin for my panic attacks and horrific anxiety that really kicks up during forced family functions. Can’t imagine anyone using/abusing or taking it for fun. Doesn’t produce anything fun but some calm for me at least.
@Tamara-
Word! I have had to take benzodiazepines for anxiety as well. We have experimented to find which worked the best for me.
We settled on Xanax (1mg. ) which takes affect quicker than the others, but leaves your system quicker. I usually need a couple a week. Benzodiazepines work very well for anxiety (I also take 10 mg of Lexapro every morning- which is the SHIT!! It totally wards off my panic and I have noticed barely any panic attacks while I have been on it).
Having said that, people who abuse them and are using really heavy doses daily, Benzo’s are the absolute WORST withdrawal I have ever witnessed (very similar to alcohol). It can take years for Benzo addicts to get their brain back.
@Shay
” addicts use prescriptions to escape life, people dependent on medications use it so they can participate in life”.
Well said… With my panic disorder (which first arrived when I was nineteen. One panic attack and then absolutely nothing until I was in my early 30’s. Then they just started coming on hard. And there was not one reasonable expectation for it).
But without the Lexapro daily and the Xanax as needed, I would not be able to function in normal society. I use to be curled up in a corner.
I am sorry to hear about your pain shit. Fuck! Sounds awful!
Thanks, Pip. After my divorce, I had anxiety and panic attacks which led to me not leaving my bedroom for a year and a half (6 months ago). My pain is not being managed here. I’ve only had 2 surgeries for pain and a few injections. So, I’ve been in bed, usually sleeping to make the time pass, about 21-23 hours a day. Its disgusting. I had to do exposure therapy (on my own) because I was tired of anxiety deciding when I would leave the house or who I could see without having a panic attack. I still get anxiety and cancel plans, but it’s not as bad as before when I wouldn’t come out of my room to watch my fave shows or to attend my nephews bday party. I just need the pain pump to get freedom.
I wondered where Kyle’s outburst in the very end of part 2 about uninviting her to the wedding came from. Not that Kyle has ever been a drama queen or anything… But apparently there was some stuff leading up to that.
Okay, here’s my little issue: it is not KIM’S wedding. It is her daughter’s. Since when does Kim get to nix Kyle from the guest list? Brooke is a full grown adult, and if Kyle has the close relationship with her nieces that she says she does, one would think Brooke would want her there. And even if Kim whined to Brooke that Kyle was being neab, don’t invite her, I feel that Brooke has probably seen enough of the love/hate (and possibly enough of her mom’s irrationality) to hold firm that her dear aunt needed to be there… for her second wedding. So to me that’s a little bit silly. Like elementary school: “Youre not invited to my birthday party!”
Oh God, I want T-Rav to show up and officiate so bad!!!
For that matter, I am wondering if Brooke’s new husband is so wealthy, why can’t they support Kim if she needs financial help? She is an adult and should help her mother. It should not fall solely on Kyle, Kathy and/or Bravo to keep Kim afloat. Surely she must be aware her mother is using again? There seem to be a lot of people in Kim’s life turning the other cheek as to what is really going on here. I hope Kyle can stay strong and refuse to help Kim unless she comes off the show and gets help.
She just married up. I bet his parents love the girl but not Kim so much. I wouldn’t start of my marriage asking the in-laws for money for my insane mother.
Maybe that is why Kim is biting the hand that fed her aka Kyle because she figures Brooke will take care of her now.
Hmm @Josie you could be right. Kim and Brooke are fairly close. I wouldn’t be one bit shocked at your theory.
In Amsterdam, Kim admitted that if her kids thought she was using they would “walk away from (her) in an instant.” I thought she was worried about losing her kids but maybe she was really worried about losing Brooke’s money. That’s how Big Kathy raised them, after all.
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This “unspeakable” act at the wedding – did she shoot the dog? trip the bride? guzzle tequila and puke on the cake? – that Brandi references with glee may be the “vindication” she was crowing about earlier.
Could be something to it. If so, that might explain Kyle’s whirlwind press tour prior to the reunion airing.
Do you think they let Kim out of the funny farm for Easter brunch and took her back end of day? “It”s a joke! I was kidding!”
Kim is abusive and nasty. More so when she’s not wasted. I think Kyle has been well trained to act as Kim’s personal guard dog. A human Kingsley. Kyle either attacks or creates a diversion by focusing on everyone else’s minor misdeeds. It doesn’t help Kim, it just allows her to slip into the abyss of the substance abuse she craves. Kyle’s good intentions will never gain her Kim’s love and it’s left Kyle a bit of a mess. Keeping my fingers crossed that the suspicious, snappy Kyle with major trust issues is a thing of the past and she keeps her own life on the front burner for once.
(I enjoy watching Kim seethe over her sister at the reunion. The gig is up, Kim knows it and she and Brandi’s absurd behavior is priceless!)
Thanks Tamara! Great stuff as usual!
Kim seems to really relish having an attack dog type of friend ,and I believe demands that of people. I actually despise that trait in women. Its one thing to have someone’s back ,and another to demand that people fight your battles for you no matter what you’ve done. Its a mark of weak catheter and I think Kyle has outgrown it and never really had the stomach for it. Thats why she was mortified at the game night footage and how they treated Brandi. Kyle was the first to apologize and start over.
Brandi is very close to menopause herself. I bet she will STILL plug in a tampon, let the string hand out and not wear underwear just so she can still brag she has her monthly crap. She’s nasty enough to do that. And what’s wrong with menopause? I went through in in the 1990’s and thank heavens – no more worrying about getting preggers, just plain freedom. Additionally, Kim is a waste of air, drugs and booze. Brandi and Kim are perfect together – both worthless. As for Kyle, you can choose your friends, but you can’t choose your relatives. And sometimes your relatives aren’t worth the trouble, I know as I haven’t spoken to my brother in years, and don’t want to. He was castrated the second he said “I do,” and his wife has been a total biatch to me since we met over 40 years ago. Neither is in my life and I thank God for that. I don’t need the abuse, and neither do you. If Kim is in need of money other than the show – go out and work like the rest of us. YOU don’t need to take care of her, she’s a grown woman (age wise) who is making very bad choices. Sometimes the best help you can give is to let them fall on their faces and get up on their own. If they don’t get up, that’s their choice and they can’t be helped. It’s hard, but it’s the truth.
Brandi is 42. She is years away from menopause.
ha ha ha.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@TT thank you! Ha ha ha fucking ha is right. My age and full blown menopause. Taken at least a year to get my hormones correct.
Severe mood swings are a sympton of perimenopause. You know things like throwing wine in peoples faces and slapping people. Many Brandi is perimenopausal. Average age is mid-40’s. Isnt Brandi close to 43?
Josie? I don’t think things are going to work out for you well here. First I just read you explaining “homelessness” to us in the RHONY and I thought you were just someone with poor opinions.
Now you are here, not only rife with menopausal women who rant and rage here all the live long day, but now, here you are on a site run by someone who is not handling menopause well at all on a board where we discuss menopause to the point that we now have special little posts to rant about menopause to avoid situations just like this… AND YOU ARE SERIOUSLY FUCKING GOING TO EXPLAIN TO US WHAT YOU THINK MAYBE MOTHER FUCKING MENOPAUSE IS ?
You have left the land of shitty opinions, and strolled right through lack of judgement into please flame the hell out of me mercilessly until I flee this board and kill myself land.
Run Josie. Run for your stupid little life.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@TT re Josie : I literally just spit coffee out all over the balcony. Still making it thru all the comments from everyone. Your response just made my day. Hahahahahagaha run Josie run.
That’s why Brandi is screwing 22 year olds. She doesn’t acknowledge that she is 42. She thinks she is 22. At 42, I had a son that was 22 and became a grandmother. Imagine grandma screwing a 22 year old, lol. He wasn’t good looking at all. Now, if he looked like Mike from the “Shahs”, I definitely would have a taste!
If that were true, she would be completely wrong about Kyle as Kyle is only 2.5-3 years older than Brandi is. Besides, Perimenopause can start as early as a person’s late 30’s. It’s why it is stupid of Brandi to use it as an insult as she is most likely perimenopausal right now.
Oh no! I went thru menopause at 47, had just remarried when I missed 2 cycles and was terrified of being pregnant. Went to my doc told him I was sure I was, he did blood work up on me when the results came back I was well into the late stages of menopause. Brandi may be one of those women that ends up going through it early because of lifestyle. She will eat every insult she has ever thrown at any woman about menopause when she wakes up out of a sound sleep drenched in sweat and feeling like she has been set on fire from the inside. I pray for her that karma truly is a bitch in that area.
Run towards the lake!
Between the great “unspeakable” and “run, josie, run!” I feel like we are reading from RHOBH: The Help.
Come on, Josie had it coming. /EvilGrin
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Sure, but someone else is always trying to ruffle my feathers. I hope she’s on the shortlist.
She may have a big surprise coming her way. I was through menopause at 42!
She may have a big surprise coming her way. I was past menopause at 42!
Work? Kim hasn’t worked since she was a teenager. She has no trade, otherwise. She is living in the past…like anyone even cares who she is. What “work” could she do?
TT, as a fellow menopausal traveler, I have to say to tb and Josie, bless your little hearts. Think back to this post when menopause hits. LOL for real. Even now at 65, I have at least one strip-your-clothes-off hot flash a day. It’s like mother nature NEVER stops laughing at you. They’ll learn the hard way.
So true @preachtreacher, right now 22 year old women sleep in the nude out of fun, 52 year old women jerk off clothes in the middle of the night out of a desperate need to breath and put out the fire. I bet you kim has already gone through or going through it.
My little heart jumped on the menopause train 2 months before my 48th birthday. I’m 55 now. I can say that 1st missed period was the start of menopause as it was chemo induced. In hindsight, had i been experiencing symptoms of perimenopause? I’d say no, unless you want to count very late or missed, or very heavy or light periods, and sweat issues, with regularity in between? Then sure, I could call it that. But that sort of thing used to happen in my 30’s. So, whatev, sooner or later I’l get my period less frequently and that elusive 12 months of freedom will be reached. Then celebrate! I can say I’m lucky as the onset of menopause was a straight twelve months for me. And I agree with you that it’s a bit of a news flash that post menopausal status includes everything you deal with in menopause but the period bullshit. And as I’m sure you know, regular weight bearing exercise and the total elimination of sugar (alcohol too) will do wonders for those hot flashes your having. You may even be able to remove the bath towels that you have to sleep on so you only have to change your sheets every other day!!
ps My mom had regular periods until 52 when she too went thru chemo . My 3 sisters were also 52 and 51. So ladies, look to your mom’s experience and you’ll know how it’s going to roll for you.
one more ps. I did learn the hard way. More than you’ll ever know.
The Kyle and Brooke’s wedding – BG making a statement gives her control ( she thinks ) First,she wasn’t even there! Second, I think I read that Kyle may have had too much to drink. I don’t see this happening. She may have had jet lag, she had just returned from vacation. BG can run her mouth about surrogates, LVP and everything she thought she could find out for 9.99, LVP pool boy that admitted he never modeled with BG. She did very little modeling, she was a make up artist and was actually a pretty lady at that time. She can say all these things but just throw this out? I wonder how she feels since it didn’t get the attention of #wdhd? Who is the one that just mocks ppl? Kyle no! BG Yes!
BG says she was a model but many say she wasnt. Are there pics of her modeling anywhere? Does she have a portfolio?
This is my opinion of Kyle-I think she is open, and honest-a mean girl (Regina George) but like Tamara said before, superficial things-she didn’t attack Lisa PERSONALLY-her life, her businesses, her marriage. I think Kyle just enjoys being on TV and talking about her life. Before RHOBH, I knew who Kyle was based on anything I had ever seen on Paris Hilton. She was always included on interviews. I don’t think she lies, and what she told Brandi about Lisa having an affair or filing bankruptcy could have been a test. Kyle and Lisa were good friends before the show. Is Kyle catty? Yes. But for me, she is one of the most honest, open and believable in her interviews and actions.
What makes you think Kyle even said either of those statements? Brandi says she said them. Is that who you want to believe??
That’s what I’m saying…
Bottom line, I like Kyle. I always have. I’ve cringed at some of the things she’s said, especially against Lisa, but I feel like you can read Kyle’s face when she is lying or bluffing and she doesn’t do it often. She owns what she says, and in her interviews comes across the most open and honest and forthcoming. Even insightful at times. Is she an attention whore? For sure. They all are. Why else would they be on this show. She grew up and was brought up in a family of women with a domineering mother, and has always been that type of catty to make fun of your shoes or purse behind your back. Little crap like that.
I think Lisa and Kyle’s friendship took a beating with this show. It’s slowly coming back, but it’s one thing to vent to someone else about your friend behind their back; it’s another thing for them to actually see and hear what you are saying on national television.
The first rule of being a cult leader is to alienate your people from their loved ones or anyone who could help them escape. Brandi & Kim have started their own charming little cult.
And it sounds from the comments that meth-head behavior is awfully similar to perimenopause. Should peri women start taking methadone? I know, NOT funny.
I think the show is just going to damage Kim now. We all saw the lies she has told over the years, and as a viewer I just cant take it. It plays into her delusions, and ultimately (as with Brandi) its gonna hurt her. Because, I cannot stand being lied to, and I dont like seeing people agree with lies. Really Kyle, just detach.
I cant believe that Kyle did anything”horrific”at the weddng. Kim admits Kyle is an amazing wife and mother. Amazing wives and mothers dont go around doing horrific things because its not in their nature or charecther. I hate when people throw out shit and then dont back it up. Anyone can do that and throw suspicion on someone.
I started watching season 1 to see how things have changed. In episode 2 Kim is drunk (which I remember but didn’t think of it as a problem) her personally did change and everyone was on edge. Her talking heads were mixed with some silly and some sober. But the thing I noticed was in episode 2, Kim does that thing where she refers to Kyle as the baby. She doesn’t have to do stuff because she is the baby. I look forward to the psychic. Good times.
It was quite a way back so forgive me for bringing it up now but I just want to say to JMB (whether you were joking or not) it was just mean to say that certain names are hooker names. I’m not thrilled my name is Kathy but that’s what my parents stuck me with, believe me when I say grandma Kathy doesn’t sound right no matter how little a child is who says it, but parents name us, we don’t come out tagged and bagged with our name stamped on our ass, so I just want to say again…that was mean and nasty to say that.
I had many friends named Kathy. My mother was eastern European, so she called them all “Kah-ty” Maybe your grandkids can call you that because I thought it was charming.
@Kathy How about Grandma KayKay? Easy to pronounce, sounds cool.
My mom would bring my sons sliced apples, she became Grandma Apples, the other was Grandmom River.
She lived by a River.
Babushka or Bubishka (sp) is Chech for Grandmom. Easy to pronounce. They called my mom that as they grew older.
Both Brandy and Kim are disgusting pieces of low life trash…I can no longer stomach either one if them, if they return next season I won’t be watching, it’s bad enough Brandy us extremely ugly and unattractive on the outside, but she is rottin to the core on the inside. Kim needs rehab and physichiatric treatment, I was going to stop watching when she started dating that very disgusting guy who was nothing to look at and they were constantly baracated in the room sucking up drugs, her dog is out of control and seems to be a mentally challenged pet as well…Bravo get rid of the vile garbage Kim and Brandy PLEASE!
I feel for the Richards sisters. We don’t have addiction in our family so it is very hard for me to understand or begin to even grasp when people say kyle should walk away. How do you walk away from your sister?? There are layers and layers of hurt here…far behind the issues with Kims addiction. If anything, they should at least seek professional counseling (but Kim is in such denial that nothing is wrong so I doubt even that would ever happen). Is just sad to see it played out and hard to envision what might be a reasonable solution for these sisters to reconcile in some way. What’s happened in this recent rift can never be unsaid or undone.
Kyle really just needs to realize that Kim is her sister an that’s not her fault. We don’t choose our family. Sometimes we have to just let it go and get on with our lives. I’m not sure if Kyle is trying to keep some sort of promise to her departed mother to watch out for Kim, but enough is enough. Move on, Kyle.
I am speaking from experience. I have an older sister who tormented me from an early age. The culmination came when the hurt spilled over to my child. My own mother tried to make me feel guilty. It worked for years until Mom died. Now ,I’m free of it all. It feels good.