Jerry O’Connell is such a good person to be on with a housewife. He is almost as into all this nonsense as Jeff Lewis. Before we even get started Andy is catching us up on some Tweets. Camille tweeted that nothing happened with her and the skeevy pseudo prince. She is also friends with the morally corrupt Faye Resnick now. Oh Camille. Really?
The night before on WWHL with Brandi, Brandi said that she ran into Kyle at Sephora and Kyle ran out of the store. Kyle says that Brandi is a lying liar who lies from her liar hole. Kyle says Brandi is the one who ran out and Kyle was there 20 minutes after she left.
Andy loves to replay the fight scenes from housewives shows. He shows Kyle running out of the restaurant in Amsterdam. She says she yanked off her mike and ran out because shit was getting crazy and she didn’t want to stick around to find out what happens next. Then he plays a clip from the reunion of Kim saying that if Kyle and Kim decide to work on their relationship they will need to do it in a therapist’s office, but as far as she is concerned she is just fine with not speaking to Kyle and leaving things the way they are. Kyle told Andy before the reunion that it was her hope that she and Kim would make up, but that didn’t happen. Kyle says that there was no resolution for anyone at the reunion in any of the situations.
Why doesn’t anyone fix Andy’s tie? Every night it’s crooked.
Questions for Kyle:
Have you ever been to Al-Anon? Yes. YAY! So we can officially stop suggesting this every week for the last three years.
It appears that Lisa R tweeted something mean about Kim on Sunday night and then deleted them. How did Kyle feel about that? Kyle says that she didn’t see them but that she heard responded that she was not supporting that and Lisa R texted her an apology and she has no hard feelings.
What does Kathy think about the drama between Kim and Kyle ? She says Kathy is stuck in the middle and she hears both sides. Andy asks how things are with Kyle and Kathy and Kyle says they could be better.
Why did you cry so much this season? Kyle says she is just wired to be very emotional. She cries over everything.
Poll whose side are you on? Kyle or Kim? Kyle 66%
Okay, I know a lot of you have been pressing me to recap the Bethenny interview. I’m off to do it now!
She looks like a witch with that bright red lipstick.
Not a fan of red lipstick but I think she looks stunning.
Does Kim watch the show? Maybe her uneducated white trash bestie, did not state she needed an intervention but she did call Kim out.
If I were Kyle I would truly show Kim what a bad sister is. Cut her crazy ass off! There are obviously deep rooted family issues. I feel Kathy would rather ignore Kim’s “situation” and throw her cash than acknowledge it.
Kyle can’t win with Kim. It’s OK for Kim to tell Lisa to to go away but Brandi can stay during their convos??? At least Lisa walked away.
Tara, I just said about the same thing on the RHOBH Finale Recap Blog. Did Kim ever see the episode where Brandi told Lisa R about the patch and that Kim was in worse condition than anyone knew. Does Kim still believe that Brandi is her best friend after that?
I believe I recall Kim saying she never watches the show, so that’s that.
Jerry should be co-hosting some of the Reunions. I agree with Tamara he is a great guest with a volatile HW. He made me laugh when he said he was going easy on Brandi because she knows where he lives.
I used the wrong word not volatile -center of the controversy should be the term instead.
I really liked Jerry. He definitely knows his housewives.
I am so tired of Kyle can we use her tears for the impending drought. I like every city besides Beverly Hills because they are just full of strong and standing up to people attitude. None of this crying that’s why I like orange county. The crying is to the minimum its all about throwing daggers at your opponent. She doesn’t have any real comebacks so she just cries. #savehertears
Oh please RHOOC is the queen of crying. Someone is always crying, Vicki, Shannon, TAMRA!!!! it’s one big perimenopausal sob fest.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Not that I am on fleek (Is that phrased correctly? Lol) when I cry, but Tamara is absolutely terrible! Yikes! Scary cry!
I can’t help it. I’m an ugly crier.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Tamra Judge is the WORST housewife crier IMO. If she can’t scream and argue her way out, she puts on the dry tears with the ugly face and claims she’s VERY HURT. She does it for any and everything. Awful awful awful.
Fo sho. Even my 11 year old passing through the den has said, “that [Tamra Judge] lady cries all the time.”
The queen of crying should definitely go to Kandi. Boy that woman can unleash the tears like no other.
Finally! You finally mentioned that boy can’t put a tie on straight. It’s always driven me crazy and thought I was the only one who noticed it. Every gentleman should know how to tie—and wear—a good looking tie.
Damn—the tie should be straight even if he isn’t.
I wonder what Kathy’s issues with Kyle are… Obviously Kim and Kathy are tight and always have been it seems.
I think it is Kyle being the executor. I know a lot of people acted like that would not be an issue, but I don’t think those people have ever been involved in the distribution of their parents estate. I’m still pissed daily that my nephew has all of my things that were stored in my parents house. I am TRYING to let it go… but really. My nephew just kept all the property that was in the house that his mother bought before she died and no one had the balls to go in there and itemize any of the property.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT I believe your correct, my brother still resents that I was made executor over my parents estate. I was the oldest that’s why it was done that way.
Are you southern? Because in the south it’s generally oldest male or in the case of my father’s estate, both males. Then the younger son had the elder removed as an executor (with cause) and the elder son summarily denounced the entire family saying we were all dead to him (even me, the blameless baby and the favorite) and has never spoken to us again other than one muttering when a the evil sister died.
My family is like a Flannery O’Connor novel.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I resent my brothers for using the vacation property thats supposed to be partly mine. And after this season on bravo, I need a vacation!
You are not alone TT. This stuff cannot ever be let go, no matter how long, and the best therapy. I was the favored while the elders were alive. All the while, like a Roman tragedy, the others plotted behind my back. They now have most of the trinkets. After a nasty legal battle, I have some of the land, and my memories.
I’m sorry to hear that your nephew treated you and your things this way. Sometimes people say “Oh well, it’s just THINGS” and you’re supposed to forget all about it but it’s easier said than done, especially if you’re sentimental. Every item has its history and it matters to you.
My aunt did that to my mother, kept the one item my mother asked for, my miniature baby rocker. My aunt and uncle stayed married all their lives, and had good jobs, a nice house, and yet they denied my single mom my little chair that she scrimped and saved to buy. People can be such shits sometimes and it does come out over tangible items.
I don’t blame my nephew at all. But he is sort of a shit about not giving things back. My brother should have itemized the estate. In fact I am not sure the estate has ever closed.
My evil sister somehow took out 500K in life insurance for her son WHILE SHE HAD CANCER! She was evil like that.
So He just lives there and is very low maintence like me… (we have the same birthday) and we are both sort of like, traveling is fun when we can be bothered, but do is sleeping all day and doing stupid shit. I love my nephew. He is just sort of a dick about some things in the house. Like my sister said “I’m giving you my Mikimotos” and then he wanted them so ..whatevs. His mother wasn’t just a cunt to me. But to him too…. so he learned from the best and maybe he enjoys wearing her Mikimotos. /shrugs My brother who was executor (the good brother) was all sorts of pissy he didn’t get jewelry from Mama. I’ll prolly just leave his SON fucking everything.
You know out of 13 nieces and nephews. I say pick one. LOL.
I really do need to leave a will. But that boy needs to start interviewing wives. With me there. Because… He is a namesake. And This aunt is NOT playing.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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And stuff like this is why I’m happy I’m an only child. I can’t sit here and judge relationships like that, because it’s so complicated. I don’t get why people do the things they do. I’m sorry that rift was created between you two, TT.
The fact that Kyle is the baby/favorite, and was given all the power probably doesn’t sit well with Kathy/Kim, especially when Kim was the big bread winner growing up, and taking care of everyone.
I think Kim has a hard time adjusting to the fact that her addiction helped to turn the tables on that dynamic. It’s still hard to see exactly where Kathy fits in, but they definitely need constant therapy as a family.
I don’t know a whole lot about how the whole executor thing works, but it doesn’t always mean they have all the power over everything. Does it?? My grandmother passed away last June, and my dad, as the oldest, was the executor…. but she left EVERYTHING to my two aunts. My dad was the only one physically close to take care of her, bring her to appointments, etc for the 12 years after my grandpa passed. My grandma considered my father’s purchase of the home farm his inheritance, and left the house and all money to the two daughters (in all nearly half a million). The wicked women changed the locks on grandma’s house the day after her funeral and didn’t allow my dad or any of my siblings an opportunity to enter the home or have anything from her home. The took what they wanted and had an estate sale, again without a word to any of us. I will never understand how people can be so cold, heartless and selfish and, goodness, I hope that kind of mess doesn’t happen with my siblings or with my children!
I believe Kyle’s mom found her to be the most responsible one to be executor, for whatever reasons. Kathy seems to be a socialite, party-girl first and foremost so it’s not surprising that her and Kim are closer. Kyle probably seems too “boring” or “responsible” for their tastes. I have enjoyed watching Kyle the last few seasons, I didn’t watch at the beginning, but I enjoy seeing her life. She seems very real, down-to-earth, and fun!
Kyle was the baby and the favorite. Mauricio is making it on his own now. She was favored, for reasons unknown to us. That scars.
I wonder if the treatment of Big Kathy’s older daughters was vastly different from the youngest “the baby” daughter. The older daughters served a purpose and the “baby” doesn’t have to do anything. That is what was said when the two Richards sisters were in the kitchen at Kyle’s new house.
How I look at the dynamic of all four women. Kim and Lil Kathy had each other. And Kyle was the mommy’s girl. I said last week Big Kathy knew Kyle would immortalize her in a way by making her keep that vacation house over 10 years. Kim if she were the executor god know what would happened especially since was possibly using heavily and broke. Lil Kathy I doubt she would had kept that property for long she would had given the home to Rick to sell the minute she had some claim to it.
I like Kyle in the red lipstick, I think she can pull it off because of her coloring and that gorgeous, healthy dark hair. I cry too, I didn’t used to, but as I’ve gotten a teeny tiny bit older (hee hee), I guess I decided if I felt the need to cry I would. I am a real UGLY crier too, but fuck it. Really, in the grand scheme of things, crying is pretty mild. Attacking people and saying really horrible things is much worse. I’m glad Kyle won the poll (if in fact it was even legit) because the girl needs a boost. Goodness knows, I feel bad for her having to drag that dead weight called Kim around for all these years. No wonder she cries.
Gingersnap, I’m all kinds of agreeing with your posts today. Only commenting on this one or it would be a little too fangirly. Ordinarily bright red would be a little harsh on a 45+ woman, but Kyle is looking incredibly young lately.
Thanks HotToddy! I understand how you feel about the ‘fangirly’ thing…it happens to me on occasion (agreeing with a poster multiple times and responding) and almost felt the need to explain I wasn’t stalking them 😉
Kyle is looking fabulous and gorgeous on the show this year and even candid appearances. She’s really stepped her style up and got her look together.
I think Kathy has an issue with Kyle since Mauricio left Ricks real estate firm. It appears Mauricio is doing very well and that’s real estate Rick doesn’t list or get a piece of.
On the show Intervention the family members always have to agree to cut the addict off/out of their lives if they refuse treatment. That’s exactly what kyle needs to do. She needs to stop enabling Kim and allowing herself to be held hostage by Kim and her disease until Kim is ready to be TRULY accountable.
What a shocker that Kathy Hilton would enable an addict. Anyone recall the recent incident with her addict son arrested on an airplane?
So far, out of the three sisters, Kyle’s kids are the only ones in the family that have not had issues….so far. I find it very interesting that all three sisters married very young.
To me, Kyle is the sanest one of three. I’m not surprised.
I’m sure that Bravo used absolutely every clip they had of Kyle crying while tons of scenes without her crying were left on the cutting room floor. So it appears Kyle cries *every* week because those are the clips Bravo shows.I mean, it’s not like shit wasn’t going down during those times Kyle cried.
Kyle probably goes the rest of the year (i.e., when not filming and having to deal with the manufactured drama constantly) without crying once.
So, you know — whatever.
Kyle looked really good on WWHL — I wish she had worn that dress at the finale party because I absolutely HATED the dress she wore. I know I wrote that before in the RHOBH finale thread, but I can’t get over how much I despised that dress she wore.
I haven’t liked Kyle in the past but I have changed my mind now. She has put up with so much crap with Kim and Brandy I can ‘t even count the times.
Kim says terrible things to Kyle as does Brandy and they get away with it. It’s like Kyle wants so much to say something back, but doesn’t because it would be telling more family secrets. So Kim gets away with it. At the poker game when Brandy was trying to make Kyle go away from Kim inside the house, didn’t it look like Brandy pushed Kyle in the back? Looked like Kyle kind of did a two step to hold her balance. At least that is what it looked like to me. Then Brandy hollers out don’t you touch me several times. It looked like a push to Kyle and I’m surprised Kyle said nothing about it. I don’t think I could have held my temper back. I am afraid I would have gotten hold of Brandy hair and slapped her down on the floor. I hope Kyle can stay away from Kim, because that seems to be the center of her heart break. Kim’s mouth is almost as bad as her bff Brandy.
Observation: Kyle runs, leaves (Amsterdam and other situations) because that is what she may have done as a child. The dysfunctional anger, arguments, etc, cause the retaliation. Maybe I’m wrong, but she is hiding, trying to block the pain. It was a learned behavior. As for the crying: perhaps she got attention, in the past?
THIS!! I had this exact same thought about Kyle fleeing so dramatically. Maybe this is related to her growing up in such a dysfunctional family and dealing with a volatile unpredictable addict of a sister. Also people talk alot about Kyle being a crier but I noticed she can be really anxious too. She’s a bit of a “scaredy cat” sometimes. Once again, I wonder if it’s related to how she grew up. Of course it’s also possible she’s just a drama queen by nature (or her theatrics are a byproduct of being a child actress.) I dunno. I just know I have more empathy for her after this season than I ever did in the past and it’s 100% due to Kim’s behavior.
In prior seasons Kim came across as troubled and flakely but vulnerable, goofy and endearing. This season we’ve seen a real nasty unpredictable side to her personality. It makes me re-think some of the confrontations in prior seasons. Like how Taylor would lash out at Kim or how Lisa V seemed annoyed and dismissive of her. I really wonder if the editors protected Kim in the past.
On a whim- I started (re)watching season 1. In epi two or three, Portia has a birthday party. Kyle is busy. Kim holds Portia while cooing to toddler Portia, “The BABY is busy. Your mama is the baby.” Creepy.
The season also had Easter footage of Kim with all kids, Kyle and whole fam in Palm Springs for Easter AT Big Kathy’s home in the desert. THE stolen home! Not only that, but Kim’s fam had been to the stolen home for vacay the previous week. Crazy.
There are tons of juicy tidbits in season 1 that make sense now.
In real time—Kyle tweeted a link to alleged proof that she remained at the store and Brandi left. Supposedly, many fans called the manager to fact check.
LisaR is a piece of work. Her feed is spicy. I would say more but I don’t wanna be invited to read the rules 100x
I’d really like to see Kyle just lose it and put Kim on full blast and family secrets be damned. I never was a real fan of Kim’s but was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe I’m judging her harshly because she reminded me of my sister.
Now I can see what a stone cold bitch Kim is and I’d like to see her have someone just come right out and tell her about her ass.
I agree Nancy , I took Kim’s side when they fought over the house in Palm Springs . I was wrong , I feel really bad for Kyle !
I think later on you post about a crib your mom scrimped and saved for …. Well if you want to plan a heist, I AM IN! I will even go out and but a great new black outfit!!
Thanks Mlncasas! That would be fun, but we’d have to be damned good to get one thing out of my pussel-gutted, greedy-assed aunt and her equally selfish oafish daughter. They guard their “goods” like Fort Knox.
My mom worked third shift in a fiberglass factory with two kids to raise, living at my grandmothers, sleeping on pallets on the LR floor and doing her spoiled younger sister’s laundry as part of her “rent”. And then the bitchy sister keeps my little rocker just to be mean. I think this is the true meaning of TT’s brilliant label, “Cunt Satchel”.
I wish Kingsley would gnaw off that finger that Kim is always pointing at everybody. It makes me want to slap the shite out of her. The fact that Kim becomes infuriated when Kyle has the audacity to say that her dog almost took bit Alexia’s hand off, speaks volumes to me. She genuinely does love her dog more than her friends and family.
Kim started the house beef the minute she shouted “You stole my goddamn house.” Had not Kim would had made that allegation towards Kyle, Kyle probably would had never said anything about her being a drunk. I don’t feel sorry for Kim any longer. She creates drama and misery around her and tries to play victim and lack accountability – I see though it. No one told her to piss away all her money to drinking/druggin/excessive spending, that was her choice, Kyle didn’t tell her to do that. Kim’s her own worse enemy. She needs to take her ass right back to rehab and get off the show.
What is it exactly that an executor does anyway? Can they do anything to screw someone over really? I just thought it was done to save money from paying a lawyer to act as executor.
Also Kyle looks amazing. I wish Andy had asked if she had any work done. Can’t tell if that’s just Botox or a facelift. She looks 10 years younger whatever it was.
No being an executor is a PITA. They just carry out the wishes of the will, they generally get about 10% of the estate for pissing off everyone in the entire family and spending sometimes YEARS sorting through the finances and taking an inventory.
You don’t want to be the executor. It’s a thankless job. I’m glad I have a brother who did a great job of it for the most part. I still pick at his nice guy shit of not inventorying the family estate because his sister was dying of cancer at the time. My brother is fantastic really. His decision was the stuff wasn’t worth the uproar. And I agree in THEORY. But I was the only kid who was raised in that house. And I had a lot of “stuff” there. Anyway…
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thx TT for clarifying. Still think it’s strange when the oldest doesn’t get it. I could see how that would cause all kinds of hard feelings. that’s almost the same thing as the parent saying. “you’re a fuckup” from the grave. Lol
Yes, Satinbliss…..it is like the deceased (parent) says ‘you’re a fuckup’ from the grave and the eldest has been passed over when naming the executor of their will. In my case, my younger sister was named executrix and she is very sick. She does not need the drama and stress. My dad had plenty of time to change the will, but instead, has caused many problems between me and 5 other siblings. I was the most capable, but………..I think he loved drama between his kids! So he is keeping it going even though he is no longer with us! It stinks. Everyone…..get your wills in order!
So sorry to hear that Kate.. It’s terrible that you had to deal with that kind of stress when you’re trying to grieve what for many is the greatest loss one can experience, then death of your last living parent. I don’t know that it’s ever easy though.. It always seems like there’s issues when there’s an estate involved. Praying that my siblings (myself included) behave themselves when the time comes.