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I had a whole sort of off topic rant planned for today about some previously unmentioned stories in Celebrity News this week, but I am overcome by a wave a lethargy today and if I can get this blog and then one other talking point up, I am going to have to take a nap.
Perhaps I will get to it Sunday morning. We shall see.
Anyway, this week it seems that neither Lisa R or Eileen really want to discuss Amsterdam any further. My favorite part of Lisa’s blog is her explanation for professing her love for Kim Richards during the stupid sham compliments thing. Lisa says, “So, as luck would have it, when I go to Amsterdam and feed my inner gangster a little space cake, he becomes my inner Dalai Lama, which was quite obviously the case when we were on the boat speaking one another’s praises. In that particular moment, I felt empathetic towards a fragile Kim Richards sitting in front of me, and I just felt those were the words she needed to hear at that time.” Essentially, she says she was high. LOL. I can see needing some space cake for that cruise. Especially after the last encounter.
I don’t feel at this point that any resolution has been made, contrary to what everyone but Kyle and I seem to act like. I’m completely confused by the fact that Lisa R. went shopping with Brandi and Kim. I would have no problem with that if I thought that Lisa R. had gotten a real apology from Kim and that they had come to a place of mutual respect and understanding. As Kyle said, it seems that everybody has swept this awful event under the rug. Where’s Kim’s apology for making insidious inferences about Lisa R.’s husband, Harry? Where’s the apology to Kyle and me for all the awful things that were said?
And why did Brandi not step up and say she had been concerned about Kim as well?
This is why I asked Lisa R. to meet me at the bar. I just need to understand what’s happened that’s made her OK with this very wrong situation. She tells me there is no dealing with someone who isn’t rational. Kim scares her and she’s not fine with any of it. I look in her eyes, and I now understand. Lisa R. makes it clear that she is in pure survival mode. All I can do is try and support her, knowing that what happened at that dinner is anything but resolved for her. She’s simply not capable of dealing with her true feelings while on this trip. My guess is she will when she gets home and into a safer, more supportive environment.
Later that evening on the boat, there is still so much ugly tension. Kyle and Kim aren’t speaking. Kim and Brandi aren’t speaking to me (why again?). There’s this elephant in the room while everyone pretends nothing happened the last time we all had dinner together. Because I truly want us all to reach some kind of common ground, I decide to put it all out on the table. I’m hoping if we can all listen and hear each other, we can have some understanding and possibly salvage what’s left of this vacation.
On that note, I apologize to Kim about how I handled the question of her sobriety. For some reason, she doesn’t seem to want to accept that. Now Brandi is accusing me of calling her an alcoholic. I don’t recall ever saying that. I have said (based on behavior I have witnessed at my home and other places) that she tends to get mean and sloppy when she drinks. Apparently this is the first time she’s heard this? Okaaaay. We go around and around and more nasty things are said, and I just personally can’t go there anymore. I stated my case, clearly and concisely. I honestly don’t know what else I can say or do. I’m done.
I was very surprised that Brandi suggested that we say something nice about each woman. It was a very kind gesture on her part. However, it all still feels a little strange. Am I the only one having an out of body experience here?
At the end of the evening, the bizarre behavior continues. Brandi and Lisa V. are goofing around. Brandi tries to kiss Lisa V. and, for some reason, ends up slapping her across the face. Granted, it wasn’t a hard slap (thank God), but I do understand why Lisa V. feels a line has been, once again, crossed.
Like I said before, stupid Lisa Rinna saying she was “in survival mode” makes ZERO sense to me. She’s the one who became violent when the suggestions came flying out Kim’s mouth. SHES the one who threw water & shattered a glass. Kim might be crazy but she sat there like flower with an evil grin on her face, so someone explain to me WHY she was in “survival mode”?!? She’s so stupid she doesn’t even realize by saying that shes revealing that she felt SUPER overprotective. If Harry isn’t doing ANYthing wrong, why get crazy? It takes ALOT for these women in the public eye who’ve lived in Beverly Hills and behave very “controlled” to lose their sht like that while being filmed. She did to shut her he FUK UP immediately. So LISA, it’s called self preservation. “Survival mode” was something she came up with under pressure of constant cameras around to attempt to cover it up, yet it reveals much more. Hey. Fine by me. But don’t bullshit Eileen. Lisa cowered into the corner & didn’t have her friends back (after she’d had hers) and then lied to her to try to justify it.
So many people think celebrities lives are SO fabulous. All the money in the world & diamonds & cars & furs…yet most of them have the most sordid wretched secrets they’re covering up and are actually very ugly on the inside. I think Lisa Rinnas true colors aren’t as pretty as one imagined. Her life is FAR from the peaches and cream she’s been portraying. And that Harry Hamlin must has some really ugly skeletons!! Throwing a glass across a table to get a woman to STOP before she reveals them???? Crazy. She’s so lucky nobody got cut or worse some glass in the eyes!!! I’ve thrown a drink or three in my time but the glass along with it?!? Hell NO. Who does that?? I can tell you, a woman who is VERY desperate, because all logical disappeared. Think about that for a minute I’m sure you’ll all Agree.
I think we can all agree that Brandiloons are idiots with no logical thought processes who should probably have a seat.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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What’s a Brandi loon?
Someone crazy for Brandi I guess? If you’re calling me that, you couldn’t be more wrong.
I can’t fucking stand that whore.
Are you saying that people who aren’t on Rinna’s side are Brandi fans?
It takes a special kind of idiot to think someone only becomes outraged when confronted with the truth? A lie will make me snatch a weave faster than the truth will. There is nothing worse than to stand by and listen to someone falsely accuse my children, husband or anyone I care about of something devious.
It’s so small minded to think that everyone reacts to situations the same way, or that they should react the way you “think” you would.
@Lookers … “I’m sure you’ll all agree” Nope, I don’t agree.
Word
Oh ok I guess where you come from people toss glass and shatter it in your face and that’s “normal”. Good for you. We come from different worlds.
Clearly your world gets different programming…
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hi Brandi!
Hi lunatic!
Christ why do people think I like that whore?? Because I don’t like Lisa Rinna I must be Brandi?!? How about I don’t like both? Do people exist on earth who maybe don’t like both?
Ass lickers.
Your world seems very angry. Are there others in your world? Are they all as agitated as you?
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh, I dunno, maybe Lisa R isnt used to the kinda crazy/evil Kim and Brandi are putting out there. That would put me in survival mode, for sure. Oh, and strictly speaking for myself, people might think you like Brandi because after reading your comments, you sound just as sweet and fun loving as she does.
Fuck off.
@brillke, I adore your avatar! Chihuahua?
You go Nenetard! Want some red flavored Kool-Aid?
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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LOL brillke, I do so love a good strong finish. Two thumbs up!
I agree.
I mean I agree with Lookers miss about Lisa.
I’ve done the survival mode thing myself. In my younger, partying days I found myself in places surrounded by people I didn’t know but things were about to get terrible. My exit strategy was to play nice and cool, pretend to go along with everything until the moment where I could slip out. If I was in beautiful Amsterdam I would absolutely want to make the best of it and play cool until we got home, back to normal and then would be the proper time to rip off the bandaids and fix the wounds. There’s a time and place for everything. Lisa would have been crazy to choose to uphold the fight and miss out on a rare experience in the Netherlands. She would have kicked herself if she did!
Andy better kiss Eileene’s ass at the reunion, or I suspect she will be a one season wonder. 🙁
Oh God I hope not. She is wonderful to behold on the show. I absolutely love the way she challenges all of Kim and Brandi’s bs immediately, and consistently. She gives them no where to go. They either knock their shit off or they’re constantly getting challenged on camera. They both hate it, and I love it! She’s got Brandi right on the breaking point.
No purple ink… Impressive.
I think then Purple ink isn’t needed because they are coherent. Purple ink is used to translate denial.
As someone who was a victim of child abuse (and is now super averse to conflict) I kind of understand Lisa R doing/saying what she believed would appease Kim. Add that feel-good spacecake (one piece IS 4-6 hefty servings) and you suddenly see the inner-rainbows beaming inside everyone around you and just want to do your part to promote peace. Allegedly.
I’ve been wondering if Kim said a lot more to Lisa, and it got cut out? You know thats a possibility. As nasty as Kim can get, she could have said something extra vile.
Good point!
Excellent point I forgot that lol they do edit the crap out of these situations.
I keep saying I think some things were pulled during post production perhaps at the request of a lawyer for Harry.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Just like we didn’t see the whole car ride from hell with Kim and Lisa R to Eileen’s on poker night.
Is space cake the key that unlocks “I don’t give a fuck about you land”?
@angel(?), they call it spacecake for a reason… eating spacecake before going on a canal ride is like intergalactic love song
You forgot to say allegedly that time. We don’t want people talking.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Valium does the trick too
“Survival mode” does seem a bit melodramatic…
“Survival mode”, is VERY real and far from melodramatic, if you have ever worked at a battered women’s shelter most who make it out alive, have learn the art of “survival mode.”… Play extra nice keep the beast calm in order for there to be peace.
Speaking of melodramatic – we’re now comparing battered women in abusive relationships to a co-worker telling you to eat a piece of bread?
Psylocke! HAHAHA! love your comment!
*giggles @ Psylocke*
Nobody says it isn’t real of course it’s real, and LISA RINNA shouldbt be using it to justify her coward a$$! That’s amother part of why I got so annoyed with her, survival Fukn mode is she serious?? She was the lunatic in a fit of RAGE tossing glass around! People in survival mode don’t act like that! She likely read about it or heard the term used but don’t flippabntly use it to justify your flip flopping pathetic ass.
While all the spittle I presume is flying on your screen seems to be affecting your ability to spell properly, there is no explanation for your lack of understanding of the term survival mode.
Abuse victims have no corner on survival mode. It is an available technique for anyone who is an unbearable situation, such as being stuck with two drunks, three women in denial and one sane person in Amsterdam. In this instance survival mode could include but is not limited to copious amounts of space cake, a plastered on smile, the pretense of agreement, and late night calls to your spouse begging them to come get you.
Survival mode has nothing to do with justification. If it did they would call it justification mode. In this situation, justification would not be conducive to survival. Justification mode will be in play during the reunion.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I love this site
It is a survival mode exactly. Kim got the worst out of Lisa R., everybody present knew it. In the work place, no less.
I have lost “it” twice in my life. It was not pretty, no broken glass, no blood, sober-no drugs/alcohol involved. Oh boy, I blacked out actually-I had to relay on peoples recollection- I was so pissed. I am lucky-didn’t end up in prison.
I truly loved the way Eileen handled Brandi and Kim. She had a come-back for everything they said. There were moments when they looked like deer in headlights, not knowing how to respond. It was priceless. God ! I so hope she is back next season. Andy should pay her whatever she asks for. She is certainly worth more than that beast Nene Leakes.
Riley so true. They weren’t expecting Eileen to hand them their asses back. They lacked comebacks other then using their parenting/children as means for deflection.
Eileen is rational and she was sober. There’s no way Brandi or Kim could have anything to say in reply because their alcohol-soddened brains and lack of sanity wouldn’t allow for it. I loved it too and I hope she stays.
you’re right T.T.–these “explanations” are fucking bullshit.
*leans into camera-narrows eyes, “why is everyone scared of kim richards”
*leaning back from camera-widens eyes, “i’m scared of kim richards!”
my daughter, my sister, my daughter, my–you get the picture. lisa r
gives me agita.
Do you think Eileen would mind a sexless marriage to a homosexual Brit? I would very much like to extend my hand to her because I LOVE HER.
home wrecker.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I still like Lisa R but yeah I side eyed her when she spent the afternoon with Brandi & Kim and straight up rolled my eyes when she told Kim she loved her. It makes Lisa R look like a total flake. Having said that, I think it’s possible Lisa R isn’t protecting some deep dark secret about Harry. I think she’s just a dramatic redneck. She admitted to being white trash right? Well they’re my people (lol) and one common trait with rednecks is that we’re super protective of our loved ones. And we can also be ridiculously irrational and overly emotional. Sounds like LIsa R. But I still think she’s a good egg that means well. From the little we’ve seen of Harry so far he seems cooler and more emotionally removed. I wouldn’t be surprised if he loves having a feisty wife to balance him out. This is pure speculation obviously.
RE: Eileen.
I love this woman. She’s too rational and mature to be on this show. I fear she’ll leave lol
@tversky I like your analysis of Lisa R, especially the super protective part. I can see her losing it for that. And Eileen is perfection.
I agree. I rolled my eyes too when she told Kim she loved her, and the night before she said she would never speak to her again.
If there were a HH secret it would be out by now. RHOBH production has huge leaks. I just thought Lisa Rinna was amping it up for the cameras. It was dramatic and it served a purpose to divide and realign the teams. Kim pulled the same crap on Eileen asking about her family. It is just a diversion device that works well for Kim and Brandy.
The I love you was annoying and if Lisa wants to call it surviving fine. She sees a tad confused as to what her role should be in dealing with Kim and her sobriety issues. If Kim wants to call Rinna a phony I am fine by that – her comment was just so unnecessary. Obviously Rinna should have complimented Kim’s hair extensions instead-something from the heart.
I CALLED IT re: the space cake!
If I were stuck in Amsterdam with Kim & Brandi, I would totally live in “I don’t give a fuck about you land,” and play nice until I could get back to a safe haven. I get Lisa R.’s strategy. What’s the point in going round and round with crazy? Sometimes survival mode is a much smarter strategy. Poor Yolanda. I don’t know how she continues to be so patient & loving to Brandi, as exhausted as she looked in Amsterdam.
My sentiments exactly. Whenever these housewives are off to these exotic locales and all they do is fight I’m thinking “what a waste!” I felt bad for Yolanda too. She was so happy to be home and wanted to share with the others her love of Holland. She was so proud to be able to attempt to show them and Brandi and Kim totally ruined that trip. If I were Lisa R I would have done the same thing, just go along to get along, drop the drama, and salvage what I could. But I do see Eileen’s point. She’s just way too serene and analytical to have been exposed to the lunacy that is Kim and Brandi.
Against my better judgment, I’m back. Sigh.
Hasn’t anyone thought that maybe “survival mode” was cozying up to Kim so that the police weren’t called? I believe Kim’s M.O. is to push people to their limits and then gasp at the reaction while simultaneously playing victim.
I 100% believe that she threatened to call the police (which would have been her right as Rinna’s reaction was over the top) and Rinna did what she had to do (Oh, Kim, I love you and your “sobriety”) to appease Kim until Rinna could get out of Amsterdam.
This would also explain the many “At least I didn’t go to jail” tweets.
I think the worst thing about this episode is brandi playjng the nice game. She is such a one trick pony, and I felt cognitive dissonance and just hated everybody. Its like if apollo ran rhoa.
Did anyone notice that Eileen just said that Kim was drinking at her house. Did I misunderstand that? She said Kim gets sloppy and mean when she is drinking. At Eileen’s house Kim had taken one of Monty’s pills and was high as a kite but she was not drinking. Eileen said”based on behaviour I have witnessed at my home” Yes, Kim was a mess at Eileen’s home and should have apologized to Eileen for her behavior. I just think it’s irresponsible for her to imply that Kim is drinking again.
Crampina, you should look around your area for a community college. Dash on over there and sign up for a course called Reading Comprehension 098. You’re welcome.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I thought that Kim was high on a pill but not drinking. .
I did comprehend this from Eileen’s blog ” I have said (based on behavior I have witnessed at my home and other places) that she tends to get mean and sloppy when she drinks. ” I just didn’t think she was drinking alcohol at Eileen’s home or anywhere else with the women so this comment confused me.
The answer to your question is yes.
Lisa R bit off more than she could chew. I have to admit I was really hoping she could follow through with her initial stance, but she couldn’t. She caved and it gave Kim the impression that she was right and justified in her behavior. Lisa R did more harm than good. Too bad, so sad.
I really want to know what exactly made Lisa snap. When Porsha snapped Kenya had just called her a dumb ho, which given that she is allegedly a prostitute I can wrap my mind around why those exact words lead her to behave that way (which I don’t at all approve of, but the motivation makes sense).
Big picture, production says one of you ladies needs to be the A hole, create big drama, fight scene that divides the group. Go you seperate ways for a day, enjoy yourselves and then get together for dinner where you argue more and call out certain cast members. All we have to do is plug in the other franchise names, no variety just different locals and faces. I have been weaning myself.
Thank you for including a pic of one of Kristen’s, errr, Eileen’s different characters. That one cracks me up. That being said, I love her on DOOL, but not so much on RHOBH. She isn’t made for reality tv, and is coming across (to me) as a shit stirrer. She should stick to the soaps