I’m getting lots of questions today about Juror #17 based on tons of rumors. Here is what is factual. Juan Martinez prosecuted 17’s first husband and sent him to jail. 17 married husband number one (or at least the previous husband to the current one) the day before he went to jail. Clearly, 17 is a moron for that alone. There is a current crew of twitter sleuths investigating the arrest record of the current husband who some say that Juan also prosecuted. I am surprised. I thought the prosecutions voir dire questions everywhere in the world, including Arizona, have to do with the juror’s previous interactions with law enforcement to weed out possible bias against the justice system. This is just utterly amazing. Even for Arizona. And frankly, the blame lies with Juan Martinez. It’s his job to weed out the criminally biased. Unless of course 17 lied about her past criminal involvement.
So now what? With regard to Jodi’s sentence, this doesn’t change a thing. Both sentencing trials resulted in a mistrial. There will be no third bite at the apple for a death penalty even if the juror is found guilty of egregious juror misconduct. The juror could potentially do some jail time. Judge Stephens may be on the hook for mishandling the jury’s request to have the person removed if in fact she did not have an inquiry of some sort with 17. Frankly, this is just one of many serious issues with Judge Stephens handling of this case.
What 17 really needs to worry about is her name being all over twitter and the pack of crazed Travis Alexander supporters that are still wanting someone else to die. 17 has asked for and been granted police protection and is apparently in fear for her life. I’m not being the least bit hyperbolic when I say this fool needs to change her name and move to Mexico.
I’ll let you know what else transpires as more information becomes available. Because, Arizona.
I’m guessing she lied to get on the jury. Isn’t that a crime? Even in AZ?
I think in Arizona they will let anyone on the jury! Shoot, my brother married a criminal and she still lives there. And she is an illegal alien!
I’m positive that, the rest of thje lynch mobster jurors lied to get a place at the lynching… without a bleat, when, the Spaz, admitted his lies at law, and, reversal of format; swearing to, or, not even bothering to swear to, exactly the opposite, of the three yeears, ofv Jodis,’ life, he, already, embezzled… Who ever envisioned that even in Wonderland, Arizona, waiving the right to a speedy public trial, for nearly seven years, could be the means for a prostitutor to sentence anybody, with, known perjury of process…while, floating contradictory lies, under the noses of the stacked jury, and, braindead judge…??? …Edgrrr….
TT, Thanks for weeding the facts from the rumors!
The fact that the prosecutor in this case prosecuted her HUSBAND is an unbelievable twist. I cant wait to find out if she lied, lied by omission or if she was never asked in voir dire.
You’re claiming that, she wasn’t an entire person, within, herself, and that, she was as crooked as the prostitutor…??? How about, the crooked judge, who told complainers that someone told them the A-Clan, was seen, conversing in the hall; with a juror, because, it was hearsay, that, two weeks later, the judge, bothered to look into it, and, found it to be true; convenind the trial, with the defective juror, and, telling the complainants to keep quiet about it…. for two weeks, until, the judge, canned the juror, yet, concealed her own complicity, for two weeks; “being quiet about it:..???…. ” was it, hearsay, to be quiet, about, the prostitutor, confessing in her face, to, perjury, then, needing to be, recanted…??? did the judge, assume the issue to be competently, waived, to notify the governmors, to see if recanting Arizona perjuries, is, unimportant….???Edgrrr…
#17 brought this on herself. Nobody but her knows the reasons why she did what she did. She heeds to be brought up on charges (runs in the family) and serve some time with Sheriff Joe for her actions. As far as threats to her go, the MCSO stated NO CREDIBLE THREATS in an official tweet. So much for that. I believe her fear is not of imaginary threats, but of being caught.
Bring up the charges, for, the, halfwits, who lied, to get on the jury, while, all you Sheeple are bleating over missing out on your State murder, cons – piracies…..while, overlookinjg, the Spastic prostitutors,’ repudiation, of his lies at law, the three stooges, purjured, to scam, an interstate kidnapping, under color of law…. And, of course, the prostitutor, for, admitting to the three stooges, exculpatory, evidence, concealment, which, cleared,, Jodi, and, for, continuing a noncase, into a fraudulent, reverse prosecution…. And, bring up the braindead judge, for letting the Spaz, float another soap opera, before the court, with, his hypnonauseating, tapdances……in lieu, of evidence…. Edgrrr…
And, bring up on charges, the Feds, in charge of At Law, interstate, kidnappings, and, ransom demands, and, don’t forget, the, two governors, for, not also, rescinding, the extradition, pursuant, to the, admission by the three stooges, who backpedaled, their lies, and, then, swore to exactly the opposite, by, years, after the fact, releasing, what, exculpatory evidence, they knew all along….. and, conspiratorially, concealed, with their rehearsed, and perjured testimonies, in, sync, as if, they, individually, arrived at the same concusion, without, a, conspiracy….. Edgrrr….
This is unbelievable. Next televised trial? I think with the international attention garnered by this trial, Juror 17 will have nowhere to hide. Demands will be made to have this juror investigated and all charges that could be brought against her will be brought against her. But I keep forgetting, it’s Arizona. Her actions should have some legal consequences if she deliberately screwed with the sentencing with a hidden agenda.
This is crazy how they can’t figure out how to sentence this nut job. Wasting tax payers money and puting poor Travis family through this is crazy.
unbelievable even for Arizona, as I mentioned in a previous post there are some very serious flaws in Arizona law. I would be willing to bet Nurmi & Co. are just wetting themselves hysterically laughing over this news flash. As for the Judge, TT, you nailed yet again, She lost control of the court room long ago and this is yet again, a glaring example of a semi-talent allowed to handle a big league event. As for the Juror, AKA– muckraker, I hope she can find sanctuary somewhere otherwise there are those out there who are equally goof-ball enough to act on their own passions in some fashion. What a debacle all around.
Of ALL THE LSD GROUPIES, JODI, IS THE LEAST LIKELY TO, LOSE CONTROL OF TRAVIS., and, had the pictures to prove it….. Where’s the list of, disgruntled usees of, the sainted one, surely, concealed in the thousand person wake, who, actually had an issue with privileged character, Travis…??? And, why, no uproar, exposure of those whose parents, and, friends, put a stop to Travis’s soap operas….???
NOTHING amazes me about this trial anymore. I take that back. There is one thing that will amaze me. And that will be if we don’t hear lots and lots of crazy stuff for a long time to come. I am certain that this is the tip of the iceberg. Because. You guessed it. Arizona.
After sentencing, will Nurmi & Co. still be Jodi’s lawyer, or can he wash his hands of her, once and for all?
Jodi’s appeals will be handled by someone who specializes in that area of the law. I’m guessing Nurmi can’t wait til she’s hauled off to prison so he can wash his hands of her for good. He’s still her attorney of record until she gets to prison – after that, she’ll pretty much need to find someone else to do her pandering for her.
She is not given the DP so automatic appeals are not going to happen. If she wants to appeal her conviction the appellate atty. would have to be paid for by her, not the State.
I think you are right, but there will be lawyers who will handle her appeals for her. Maybe the JodiTards can start a go fund me. Or Edgarrrrrrrr could represent her and bring up the whole Mormon Mafia conspiracy stuff. I’d totally watch that! I love me some Edgarrrrrr…
Oh, one more thought. If this lady wanted on the jury because she had some kind of agenda. Well, I hope it was worth it.
TT, I wonder why Edgarrrr hasn’t bothered to stop by, and drop a few lines. contrariwise, if it was so, it might be; and if it were so,it would be; but as it isn’t, it ain’t. that’s logic. ~Lewis Carroll
I found his FB and tried to friend him. I am Facebook impaired and don’t get the whole thing. If he accepted me would I get a notice? I’ve never been the first to friend I don’t think.
I don’t think he is interested in blessing us with his bounty of knowledge. We’ll just have to settle for Captain Eel who is the next best thing and manages to be sane in most of the non Arias comments.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’ll answer to this; I can’t figure out how to prioritize all these disjointed sites, which need consolidation, so those of us willing to prove our points, are not subject to strawman, illogic, by name callers, and, brainwashees of the Spaz, penguin , in a tutu….. …Edgrrr…
I can only find youse guys, by stumbling, from one hidden commentary, to another, by accident….. Never fear, I am, lashing out at the Sheeple, daily, in one or another site…. It’s unbelievable, that the hypnonauseations, have lasted this long…. and, that, not one person, has admitted, that, the carnival side show, was still stuck in their heads….. Who needs evidence, when, a spastic tapdance, will do….??? …Edgrrr…
TT – if I can find a production company (Dear Kenya;) lolol jk but really – you deserve your own show!
I do not want a show. I just want my little website. And for my little website to get a little bit bigger. I like working in my old man PJs (those are getting really hard to find these days, bts) with half of my lunch down my pajama top.
I like this setup just fine…
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I said it before but it bears repeating. You put HLN and all of the other “sources” to shame. Your reporting of the facts are always spot on. You are able to cut through complicated legal issues and put them in words that even I understand. Thank you.
Hey TT Has anyone ever had a discussion about how the trial/case would have been different if it were 20 years ago and there was no technology involved. Think about it: no lurid texts, digital cameras that survive a wash cycle, no Walmart computerized receipts ,no emails…only her diaries/journals ,regular cameras…just a thought.
Children, I’m here, somewhere, everyday, inputting, to output, all the third grade, Nobel laureates, with their, hit and run nonsense. Somehow, there should be a consolidation of all of the sites, dwelling on whatever the subject matter is, so that morons can’t twist a few tangents, to strawman the program, to waste our time, with embezzslements of whichever side of the arguments, they vascillate to, as if, they own both sides of any argument…. I’m here, and, as long as there are braindead judges, at law, I will, be commenting… somewhere… Edgrrr… Thanks to, y’all….
I hope I never have to read the phrase “because, Arizona” again.
Here’s a new one for ya! NJ Senator Robert Menendez charged with federal corruption. Because, New Jersey.
Every state has a “because” or two, don’t we?
Sure but Arizona and Florida are more becausey than the rest. 🙂
I actually like a lot of things about AZ like Sheriff Joe and how they keep fucking with Obama trying to get some help securing the borders of their state.
It’s very hot there though and that seems to make a lot of people a bit crazy, same for Florida. And Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama. 🙂
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It won’t be worth it as she will find out. Thanks to exposure such as TT.
I have completely changed my tune on Nurmi.
17 shouldn’t be threatened with anything but jail time. I hope she looks good in orange. 🙂
Agreed!
I think they wear pink in Maricopa County Jail. At least the men do. lol. Maybe it’s just pink socks and underwear. I forget. The ladies get the jailbird stripes.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Pink is totes my colour. 🙂
Maybe I should lie and try to subvert due process?
Darling, you are not the outdoorsy type. Sheriff Joe would put you in tent city. Have you ever been in a tent? Glamping does not count.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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They wear pink and she would go to tent city which has a huge neon sign, lit 24 hrs a day flashing “VACANCIES”.
God I love Sheriff Joe.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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The last time I went camping was when I was 8. Getting drunk at a beach party and passing out on the beach doesn’t count right?
Did you come to on the beach or in a fancypants bed somewhere?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You know me too well. 🙂
No pink in Perryville. Wish they’d leave her to rot in Maricopa, actually. In a tent. In July.
Lol, make Jodi and #17 cell mates! It would serve them both right!
Wow! So this woman decided to screw with other people’s lives because she had her own agenda?! Sounds a lot like Jodi Arias.
They’re everywhere, they’re everywhere!
Yup, to counter the perjurial antics of the Martinez marionette, bastardizing the process….requiring, extraordinary means, as, Justice must be seen to be done. Who, but somebody, subject to the hypnonauseators,; spastic audition, is qualified to wade through all that bullshit, to try to unobscure the concealment of the truth; even when the Spaz, confesses, and, continues as if, she’s guilty, because in his bag of tricks, is his brainwash the Sheeple, carnival trick…. They’ll crow like roosters, instead of the sheep, they are…. Edgrrr….
Sounds like youse guys think, #17, is getting away with, nullifying, the lizards at law, system…. Justice, therefore, has, made, Jodis’ execution, a fantasy, in the alleged mind, of the serial killer, prostitutor…..All’s well, in Wonderland, thereof, therefore, and, thereat….so, there…..losers…. snivel, all you lynchmobsters, want; Jodi, has beaten your indolent asses….. Touche.’ …. Edgrrr….
but…but… Jodi can’t kick my ass, she’s in prison. If it consoles you any, I bet she got the prettiest girlfriend on the cell block!
I’m a little confused so some of this is me thinking out loud in words to y’all. voir dire is almost a 2 step process. I had jury duty but was not selected this past Dec. In the beginning they would ask us questions 36 people at a time. We had already filled out a 3 page questionnaire a month earlier. For some reason I think juror # 17 did say that there was some entanglement with the law in her past. I think she is definitely a stealth juror. If her hope is to write a book, I suggest she check out Casey Anthony’s book. Can’t find it? Right b/c she would love to write a book for $$$ but everyone hates her so there is no market for a book from she or her mother. This will be juror # 17’s fate. We have no desire to read anything she has to say.
Also, although JSS had been a judge, I believe this was her first death penalty case. I think she will go LWOP. At the end of the guilt phase of JA’s trial, JSS got misty eyed as she thanked the 1st jury and her voice shook. Almost all of her errors were against Travis and helped Jodi so that’s of no help to JA getting a re-trial. I have read her fan site since the original trial… I’m retired and don’t get around well so I have the time. I NEVER post there. Since the hung jury, they’re freaked out. They think this is the worst thing that could happen to her. I think that getting a new trial or even a hearing on trial error will be a long time off and hard to come by and so do her supporters. They say they need to raise $1 million to fund an appeal. Good luck with that! There is just a small # of people who post there over and over every day.
So, if she gets LWOP, I’ll be more than satisfied. Even if it’s LWP @ 25 years, I don’t plan to think or post about her ever again. That’s all she lives for so the isolation will do a number on her. So there is my silver lining to the verdict.
Thank you! This bitch deserves to die and a fraudulent juror just extends this family’s agony! Thanks Maricopa County!
She had no part in it, as Sasquatch, bigfoot, did it, withou, the need for the gunshot, as perjured to have been, first, which, lie, the penguin in a tutu, floated, with his prostitutorial perjuries, at law…. for three years, until he confessed, so as to reverse format, and, chase his tail, the opposite direction…. Bogus, from the gitgo…. …Edgrrr…
I would love for Jodi to spend the full first 4 years in solitary. Maybe karma will visit her during that time, and she will go stark raving mad. Ok that was mean. I hate to say this but I do believe that she does have Borderline Personality Disorder and people with this type of disorder are highly adaptable. So I have a feeling that when Jodi earns her way back into the general population, she’ll adapt and create herself a happy little life (well as happy as I can be spending your life in prison). It’s just the way it is.
With Arias Bias Virus, it is understandable, how you Sheeple, can aid and abet the spastic antics, of the shucking and jiving lizard at law…. Get well, soon, and, eat your words….. ..There were four people, minimum, at the kill, site….. Refute that, with, specificities, and, lie about, why the Gestapo, has concealed their names…..Edgrrr…
Trial by a jury of your pee-ers, not some castrated and spayed, systemic brown nosers, of, organized crime at law, psychophants, of, the, “I got mine; screw you,” lynch mobster, 12 I.Q., contingency…… with, whatever human factors they started with, that are, systematically, Voir dired away, by the, at law, officers of the court, to, Arias Bias Virus, this particular noncase, wherein, guilt, is a foregone conclusion, because govern – mental perjuries, says so, and, conceals, any exculpatory evidence, that proves, otherwise…. even when recanted under the noses of a braindead judge, and, a stacked jury…. And, you toadies of the at law, mob, want to, interrogate, the only juror, with a mind of her own; having familiarity with, the hypnonauseating, penguin in a tutu, doing his, ritual, contempt of court, dance audition,; without a bleat over the repudiation of the perjuries, that, netted, for Wonderland, Arizona, a bogus, interstate kidnapping, under color of law; and, not a gasp, for continuing , the nontrial; contradicting, his own lies at law; to, doublecross the ME, and the defective detective, three stooges conspiracy; not, just, once, but, twice, as again, under the nose of the hohum, lizard at law, presiding; who cares about, evidence, when hypnonauseating everybody, into, idle idol, worship, substitutes, well, the minor technicality, of evidence to, the contrary, of the exposed, fraud, at law, scam, so as to slither on into, soap opera, scene two, number two; barnyard residue, perjuries at law…. without, a squeek from the defense rodents….. …. Edgrrr…
I would bet money that after all this drama, Juror 17 ends up visiting Jodi in Perryville on a regular basis. Having saved her life and being dubbed her Guardian Angel, she probably feels some sort of kinship with her, especially with all the crazy people threatening her now. Plus it sounds like she has a soft spot for people in orange jumpsuits, so Jodi would be a natural fit.
As well, she should; proud to deprive the lizards at law, from exercising their contempt for the law, and, 260 years of adjudicated, rights, and, principles; foreign, to the likes of the reptilian illiterati, nonclass…. …Edgrrr…
This bothers me. Every bit of it. Her for possibly lying & deliberately throwing the process of deliberation. And the crazy people who are threatening her life. It’s like we’re a bunch of barbarians or something. And by “we’re” I mean people as a whole. This all just makes me shake my head and it’s days like this I’m not so proud to identify myself as an American. Ugh!
I feel the same.. But what bothers me a lot more is to think of what the family has endured day in and day out of court for YEARS while pics of Travis’ mutiliated body were displayed, his privacy violated and being characterized as an abusive pedophile.. To come all this way to result in an 11 to 1 vote with this juror controversy.. I just can’t even imagine what this has been like for them..
So very sad.. Because Arizona
Did it ever occur, to youse guys, that, Jodi is sacrificing herself, because, of the brainwashed delusion, from the quasireligious LSD sect, who convinces these Sheeple, that, they, own the universe, and, hold the deeds to all the planets…for which, Travis and, herself, are martyrs, requiring, a thousand person wake, canonizing, celebration, .??? Read “The God Makers, ” for the program…. Was the defective detective, not an LSD cultist….??? And, did he not, launder the crime scene, and, help to conceal the fact that the precision kill, and, the haphazard stabfest and, gunshot, were nearly a week apart, which their perjuries, lied to say, it was one crime, premeditated…??? …. Did the defective detective, not get demoted…??? Will the Gestapo, tell you, why…??? …Edgrrr…
Edgar, could just be more or less meds are in order. The balance is apparently way off.
Amen, to that, Bam….. …Edgrrr…
Who needs meds, when the world is crazy….. so you can be like the rest of the Sheeple…. Baaa…. Edgrrr…
The only saving grace about this whole thing is that Life W/O Parole will be far worse for Jodie than any death sentence. Some Death Roll inmates are given more privileges at some prisons than Lifers W/O.
Jodie just has a inkling of what she’s in for at Perryville. Her first few years will be spent in solitary(23 hrs), meals brought to her cell, 10 min ph.calls/ ph brought to cell,outside in cage, shower 2-3 times a week, limited TV, limited visitation( over phone, separated by window , of short duration ).
Because of the type of murder she commited, solitary could last anywhere from 2years on up ( depending on her behavior in prison ).
Bottom line, she will have to earn everything she gets.
She is a manipulative skank, so she may be highly successful at getting what she needs in prison. But she will definitely have to work hard at it.
Most importantly, the public will grow tired of her, move on to someone(s) new to fixate on.
And this attention seeking whore will fade into oblivion.
The original info about JA’s first few years in prison being in solitary and very restricted has changed (idk the reason). A recent LWOP inmate, Marissa DevVault, sentenced June 6, ’14 to Perryville is already working in the kitchen, having visits, etc. The inmates have to earn their privileges and JA will have to do the same and it’s up to her how quickly that happens.
A local reporter, Troy Hayden, interviewed the warden who said he’s aware of JA being so manipulative and has plans for everyone on staff to be on alert to not fall for it when she’s in their custody.
The rules and regulations for the AZ DOC haven’t changed since last week, despite the assertions of the above commenter.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kathy Griffin did a My Life on the D List episode from Perryville. Looked pretty comfortable as I recall. Also know someone who worked there. Looked way cozier than sheriff Joe’s digs.
We must have watched the same interview (one of Troy’s recent ones with the Perryville Warden) where he stated after 30 days (or it maybe 3 months) she’d be given quite a few privileges — certainly much more than we had 1st been led to believe. It appears many were wrongly reporting / confusing life w/out parole & DP sentences.
ETA: If I recall correctly this interview footage was included in a 5-7 hour clip of a live show.
Someone sent me the clip. What is said was that after 30 days of good behavior she could eat in the cafeteria at Breakfast and dinner. It was unclear if she would be shackled. After some time she would be eligible for a job which doesn’t necessarily mean interacting with inmates. She will be allowed to spend 80 bucks a week in the commissary so it may take some time to get enough for a TV. She can also participate in a 12 prisoner group therapy session after a short time, but she will be shackled and chained to her seat.
These are essentially the same things she would have on “death row.” It’s not like they were going to chain her to a wall and throw rotten vegetables at her.
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There were four people, minimum, at the kill site, as proven,, by, the States,’ own evidence. While, all you armchair quarterbrains, are licking the Gestapos boots, not one cop, has come forward, to expose the concealment, of the bigfoot, ninja, standing in wet blood; the killer; while claiming that, Jodi, dropped the camera, which, common sense, suggests, that, she must have been the one taking the pictures; and, if so, how could the camera take its,’ own blurry pictures, nio doubt, blurred, by the Gestapo, laundering the crime scene, evidence..in addition to the other proofs that she didn’t have the strength to overpower, Travis, at nearly a hundred pounds advantage, and, a wrestler, weightlifter, martial arts, kickboxer, fighting for his life, against a mouse… sucked up as fact, by all you bleatingt heart Sheeple; without an iota, of, common sense…. And, if, Sasquatch, bigfoot, standing ion wet blood, is not the ninja, as described; with the horsepower to make short work of, Travis, then, why, didn’t he, call the police, and, say, “hey, dudes, I’m stuck to the floor, in sticky blood; maybe, there’s skullduggery, afoot…. Watson…..???” … Four, people; proven, and, the photographer, gets arrested; only, could happen, in Wonderland, Arizona….. then, Sasquatch, lopes off, into, the bush; the dognut eaters, resume their policings for profit, and, the Sheeple wait for the next authoritative bastardation of the principles, some of us, live by; having not been brainwashed, by organized crime at law…..and the pubic education, system…. Edgrrr… ..
Don’t know how; advise….. Edgrrr…
Unbelievable! I can only hope that this piece of shit hears Travis’s sister sobbing uncontrollably in her dreams for the rest of her miserable life. How can she play with peoples lives like that? The fact that she chose to date/marry criminals somehow means of the Alexander family should have to suffer? As someone else has already sad – I’ve stopped being shocked by most things in this trial. But I’ve got to tell you, this one is incomprehensible. I genuinely hope that something happens to this woman in her life that makes her feel the pain of the Alexander family is feeling now. I don’t wish harm – don’t misunderstand – but I do you hope that some point in her life she has to feel the kind of pain that she’s inflicted on the family.
She does it because she can, Plus One. Nothing gives this monster more glee than knocking someone down.
Whatwith, the Arias Bias Virus, penguin in a tutu, hypnonauseating, youse guys, you’ll get well, someday, and, see that yoy’ve been had, by a carnival side show….. There were four people at the blood atonement ritual kill site; do yo deny that…??? …Edgrrr…
Cut the con; she couldn’t have overpowered a pissant, much less, taken out, a martial arts, kickboxer. You’re just suffering, with Arias Bias Virus. Maybe, there in crooksville, Arizona, all the lackies of organized crime at law, will succeed in, duping the Sheeple, and, maybe, the motives of all you bleating heart Sheeple will be revealed, or, maybe, not. Just remember, while you self righteous, bootlickers are crying in your cauldrons, there’s a killer, getting away with murder, or, and, a pretend quasireligious ritual, blood oath, blood atonement, eternal soul saving, ascension to planet playboy, with all those 180 year old, LSD virgins; good luck with, that, losers…. She had no part in it, just as she, said. Taking pictures is hardly, a capital offense….. and, why should you not, believe her, when you are ready to believe her pleading for her life against a jury full of perjurers who lied to get on the jury…a braindead judge, and an admitted perjury, need to recant; penguin, in a tutu, mincing all over his staged melodrama, concealments of the facts, he actually, admits was a lie…??? …Where in this toilet of alphabet gangsters, is, the department of oath enforcement, rights, and, freedom, enforcements, and, due process, enforcement….???… And, why haven’t tha BATFE[ces], hello, Bubbles, swooped down, to retrieve the ejected brass, for identification, as to the box of bullets, that particular bullets came from, and, wherein acid etch exposure,to the pressed to load, bullet, has a clear print, proving, who, loaded the clip, pressing the bullet into the springed magazine… probably, is being concealed, along with the rest of the prostitutorial lies at law, lest the dognut eaters, be forced to go and arrest the actual killer…??? You don’t think they have spent the last six years, tripping all over their tongues, trying to alibi, their way out of the perjuries, they, mewled, to evade the real killer, as, known, is not, the girl, victim, they have targeted…??? … Edgrrr…
Are you the “Edgar” that Arias would flirt with at the Purple Plum? Do crosswords together? Sit on your lap? Kiss you? If you are, then no wonder you support her 100%. Just in case you thought for a slight minute you had a chance with her, don’t kid yourself. She used/uses people. She was getting something from you. What that is, is anyone’s guess?
BTW – your posts are nearly impossible to decifer. Too many commas, misspelled words, run-on sentences, making little to no sense = gibberish. If you are, or were, a supporter of her, you will get no backing from outsiders based solely on your communication style. Sorry! But – it is true!
Aw,,,, I love that all these years later, Edgarrrrrrrr still has fans. He was a very special commenter here back in the day famous for getting everyone all riled up!
I keep thinking that Jodi spending the rest of her pathetic life locked in prison, and outside of the public eye, may be an even better punishment than the death penalty. At least I’ll never have to see that smirk again.
Don’t bet on it. JA isn’t the type to give up being the center of attention for very long.
I like Joe Arpaio’s comment about warning the prison guards at Perryville about Jodi. She will not go quietly, or stay quiet while she’s inside.
Come on, Joe….Ratting, Jodi, out, to the next batch of authoritive sadists, is beneath you, and, hints that, a mere girl, has, done a job on your questionable, motifs; leaving, your dynasty, with one more demerit; by, a girl. I feel your pain, and, except for some melodramatic bullshit, admire your principles, however the chain gang, soap opera, was better left in the Eliot Ness, era….. despite, the time warp….. you may begin to respect the innocense of those, your experience, proves to be, innocent, and, help them, prove it. Denying prisoners the internet, to aid in their own defense, while aiding and abetting the likes of perjuring prostitutors, who are using it against them, is, a denial of equal protection, of law; even, when , the prostitutor, confesses to a reversal of charges, yet, continues his soap opera, in reverse, as if, credibility is irrelevant, , is just not, cool, and, is, way, beneath you. if, you can let yourself, be duped for years, aiding and abetting, “growing of evidence,” by perjury based interstate kidnapping, under color of law, ; even recanted, and, will not arrest the prostitutor, for perjury, then, what good is all you’ve done…??? … Edgrrr….
How many others, so railroaded, by the extortionary, lizards at law, will get together, because of Jodi, who shoved their slam dunk, in their burrocks, for six years, holding off, all their, various conspiracies, to, protect, their political advantages, pandering to the suspect, prophets for profit, quasireligious taxdodging, corporate, enterprise; selling, worthless, deeds to the afterlife interplanetary, con jobs, they’ve duped their Sheeple, into believing……???? …Edgrrr…
I’d say, Jodi, is shoving their extortions, right where they belong; exposing the criminality of the reptilian illiterati, lizards at law, by, costing them as much money as she, can…. for their criminalities, at law…. Someone needs to take the profit, out of the at law, mob…. Edgrrr…
And somewhere Casey Anthony is grateful for Jodi Arias as she is now possibly the most hated woman in America. Because, Arizona indeed…
Nope. I still hate a child murder Casey Anthony more. Plus that witch got away with murder. Jodi didn’t.
Touché! Yeah I thought the same thing. At least Arias is in a cell.
Some of you people, really need to get your cauldrons, stirred…. There were four people at the kill site; minimum, Do you deny the facts, because, you are suffering from, Arias Bias Virus…??? Edgrrr…
There were, I strongly suspect, a few jurors on the death penalty side who had their minds made up long before the trial and were just as intransigent, if not more so. Not one of the pro death jurors moved off of their beginning stance during deliberations. It would be hypocrisy to not blame both sides equally, if indeed this was the case.
Apparently, they were split 50/50 at the beginning of deliberations.
All over the news when listening to the juror interviews.
Why, if we own the government, are we denied, the right, to listen in on the jury deliberations….??? And, get involved with, police investigations ??? Why was the LSD lead defective detective, demoted….??? Who laundered the kill site….??? Who, is shielding the quasireligious zealot, who did it….??? Who, has not repudiated the Bringem Young, brighamists,’ admonitions, to incite Travis’s eternal soul saving, redemption; as in: “We would not kill a man, except outb of love, . Of course he’d get more love if he had a hot wife, and, daughters. And, is there a man among us who would not, kill his brother, to save his eternal soul…??? And, if, the admonition does not still stand, as to, blood oath, blood atonement, why, has, Utah, just reinstated, the firing squad, to launder their own souls, when taking somebody, elses, all, out of love, of course…blood atonement; blood letting; read of Gary Gilmore… and, “The God Makers,” for clarity, and, ofv rthe Dannites, kill squad, heart plunge, ear to ear, throat slice, preferred method of, LSD killings…. all, concealed from the soap opera charade of a trial, in reverse…. Only, there in Wonderland, Arizona….. Baaa…. Edgrrr….???,
Again, you are making comments that are not true. While about half of the jury was in favor of death in the initial accounting, and some of them may have gone in that way…although there is no evidence of that. 11 people deliberated, and five or so went from undecided to death. 1 person did not deliberate and would give no circumstance under which she would vote for death, lied during voir dire and was reported to the judge for ineffective deliberations.
Facts. They’re what’s for breakfast.
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Again? Initially, they didn’t say what the breakdown of the 50/50 split consisted of. The point being, they didn’ go in on the first day of deliberations at 11 – 1. Some were undecided.
Not quite, equally; one, on one side, against a slew of them on the other side…. and, likely, lying to have gotten their lynch mobster antics, covered, up front; lying through their teeth…. Edgrrr…
Lying through, their teeth, to get on the jury. Investigate, one; investigate, all….. Edgrrr…
That is the hallmark of the narcissist; the misguided notion that they are center of everything, “self-global orientation”– throw into the mix a penchant for sociopathic homicidal tendencies etc. you have JA & JA will never understand–nor is she even capable to understand why no one believes her! She can’t grasp the fact no one drank her Kool-Aid mix. Here we are discussing a broken system, nefarious jurors, awful defense attorneys. I am assuming most of us are doing this from the comfort of our homes and not locked up. The bottom line is this: JA is locked up, has been for years, will continue to be, and 99.9% sure she will never walk a free person again. This realization has yet to sink in for her, but it will, oh yes it will, and her followers also. I am reminded of an Aesop fable, the ass in the lions skin. As the Ass roamed about giddy at terrifying all the other creatures of the woods wearing the lions skin he came upon a fox and tried to scare him as well. The fox said he too might very well had been scared if it were not for that “bray” of yours! It was that “bray” of JA’s that did her in! interviews, lies, fake crying, all the weird behavior, stalking, the crime, the joy she gets out of tormenting folks. Over. done. She is locked up.
The defense attorneys did an outstanding job in the most hideous of circumstances.
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I was thinking Awful defense attorneys in the sense that nobody cared for them or the way they operated. From a goal oriented position they achieved results yes.
well….not really, considering she was found guilty and if not for the actions of one (perhaps) determined juror, she would be on death row. But, I’m not really a Nurmi or Wilmot fan anyway so I’m biased.
um she confessed. And she went on TV and asked for the death penalty and said she had no mitigating factors. They kept her alive somehow. It’s pretty impressive. It’s an ugly win, but it’s a win.
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Yup, the three million bucks bribe, kept their lips glued to the floor….. Next time these lizards at law, should post bounties upon the arrest and conviction of those who are actually guilty, instead, of hypnonauseating, with soap operas, while pandering to quasireligious voter blocs, in using their jobs to embezzle, personal gain…. …Edgrrr…
Pandering to all the lynchmobsters, she got programmed by lieyers as to the only issue acceptable, and, failed not by being guilty, but, of listening to the lieyers…. Edgrrr…
Prisons are filled with innocent people whose doublecrossing lieyers, duped them into, taking the deal; confessing, to the prostitutorial, extortion; something like, 92 percent. extortion conviction rate…. Jodi can say she’s Alice, there in Wonderland, and, that’s meaningless. Saying, you did something, is not, a confession, unless, you did it, and, if you did it, it’s up to the lizards at law, to prove you did it….. Marc Carr, confessed; [a claim, of guilt], and, his punishment, not fitting the facts, exonerated him, of the cost of a free plane ride… The facts and, prostitorial recant, proves reasonable doubt… Free Jodi, and, arrest them all….. …Edgrrr…
In Joes jail everybody wears pink underwear and socks. The inmates look for white underwear because it hasnt been through the laundry yet, meaning somebody else didnt wear them before you. In Perryville jodi will be issued her own undies though. In a way i am glad for the holdout, ive had bad dreams jodi got the DP and won a new trial at appeal and was freed. I sleep better with the life sentence knowing she will be in her cage for a long time. Does anyone think #17 bought a jodi survivor t-shirt?
To think that some guys pay large amounts of money for my *cough*….. ahem, the used underwear of other blokes.
You sell your undies Micheal? Or uh purchase others?
Maybe, all the cops, outside Joes jail should be wearing pink, bunny costumes, with big ears, and bunny slippers, to instill, some humility; then Joes jail, just might be empty….. …Edgrrr…
Oddly the only juror information I saw online last night was the crazy Jodi Arias fanatics publishing the names and information on ALL the jurors EXCEPT #17.
I for one am convinced that it is just a matter of time between a connection is found between juror 17 and either the Arias family, Arias’ supporters, or the defense team. Just a matter of time.
Because, MESA, AZ- quite possibly the armpit of the entire state. You should see the jokers/ sociopaths they put through their police academies and promote to “detectives” there. It is enough to make you move across country in fear. Literally.
Every Gestapo, has their salivating, homocidal sweathogs, aided and abetted by those who create police Gestapo policies….. These misfits are hired for what they are, and, get away with it….. Edgrrr…
In my years of witnessing jury voir dire, which is handled by the Judge, one of the series of questions almost always (I guess except in courtroom circuses) do involve prior knowledge/acquaintance or interactions at all with any of the attorneys and courtroom staff, including bailiff, clerk and court reporter. And yes, that is in Arizona as well. It just seems so strange and unusual that this was allowed (or ignored) and Juror #17 was agreed to by both sides. Not all courtrooms in Arizona are circuses by the way. Just the most nationally watched ones I guess. Since I live in AZ (hangs head and looks down) I’m not going to end with because…
Do you have any idea what kind of illegal police work shenanigans go on in Mesa? Innocent victims were killed by the snipers in 2006, while Mesa PD was illegally lojacking the guys for months, unable to legally get a warrant. Don’t ask me how I know that. Mesa, AZ is a dangerous, dangerous place. Incredibly corrupt and disgusting police force. Jury voir dire is supervised by a judge, but “handled” by attorneys. It is not the judge’s job to investigate jurors. This was prosecutorial failure, and it is by no means surprising or unusual that this happened in Mesa, AZ.
Expect the prosecutor lace of due diligence (if that is what happened) only served to hurt the prosecution.
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Of course. Merely commenting on the lackadaisical incompetence characteristic to the court officers in the region.
My guess is 17 lied about their previous experience with Martinez.
Yeah. I believe the previous experience was probably limited to her criminal fuckbuddies. I’m not sure you have to disclose if Juan locked up your ex husband unless they ask.
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Before voir dire, pretrial jury tampering, is the means of selecting jury duty for those who got theirs, and the hell with you…. groups; as in , registered voters, or, whatever…. pretampering…. Edgrrr….
.Juror 17 sort of reminds me of a baby Jodi. Thought she could just do whatever she pleased & skate (if rumors are true.) I think she lies to get on the jury with the intention of saving Jodi. Therefore, I could care less as to whether she has to hide out the rest of her life. I also got the impression that several of the other jurors felt the same from their comments. I am thankful for the recaps here as I was able to keep up without constant blood pressure issues. Could care less what happens to Jodi or her team. Any emotion I have goes entirely to the Alexander family, Juan Martinez & Det. Flores. May Jodi just go away. Also, with no death penalty, doesn’t Jodi have to pay for her own appeals now?
No. AZ tax payers will be paying for appeals. And she has a ton of legitmate causes for appeal.
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The legitimate, appealable knockout punch, should have been the prostitutorial repudiation of the Spaz’s lies at law, halted, as in, nontrial, over; yet, taking off, in reverse, witthout, a bleat from the Sheeple….nor, a motion, deemed to have been waived, when the bland issues, destined to fail, are, used as a smokescreen, to conceal the fact that the noncase was based upon the conspiratirial perjuries, not once, but twice, in unison by the three stooges, with impunity, by the comatosed judge….and, incompetent representation by the three million dollar bribed defense, who, should get zero, for such indolence at law….. …Edgrrr…
Unfortunately in the words of Mama Joyce, Jodi supporters are hundredairs not millionaires & any money won’t ever make it to Jodi. She is being used. .y heart’s desire is that Perryville is crawling with every sort of godawful bug, worm, scorpion known to man. After all she claimed to rescue spiders & such, you know love for all God’s creatures! Buh-bye bitch!
Lday Justice has started posting the retrial video on her YouTube channel. I’m not sure if I can stomach watching – but in case anyone else is interested…
I am enraged! Not that I necessarily wanted Jodie put to death . I truly believe Life W/O Parole is a much harsher sentence( and deservedly so ).
No, I’m more upset that the defense team knew this info and felt no need to share this with the prosecution.
I would have thought the above fell under the area of ” Discovery “, where the Defense would have been obligated to inform the prosecution ( especially since they knew it only took one person to vote for life ).
The defense basically knew all along that juror had a grudge against Martinez and would probably take a stance opposite him in retaliation.
Justice wasn’t served.
And I feel nothing but disgust for Nurmi and Willcott.
There has to be some consequence meted out to the Defense team and Juror #17 for their subterfuge and dishonesty.
If Jodie had gotten Life w/o the above happening, I would have said ” so be it “. As I tweeted above, to me a better punishment.
But the message it gives Jodie is not only did she get away with killing Travis, she did it by cheating the system ( outsmarting the system ).
And the juror (#17) who sought payback against Juan Martinez didn’t get revenge either.
Because now she’s looking over her shoulder everywhere she goes.
Her life in danger– not Juan’s, not Jodie’s, not even her husbands’.
Was her attempt at revenge worth it?
Was Travis not getting the justice he deserved worth her pitiful attempt at revenge?
The truly sad thing about what the Defense team and Juror #17 did was to tarnish an already degraded justice system( for me ).
NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE
This is a ridiculous comment. AGAIN. Why on earth would you think the defense attorneys had any more idea about this whacko juror than Juan did? It’s not up to the defense to excuse jurors that are favorable to the defense. That is the prosecution’s job.
Jodi had nothing to do with Juror 17, Juror 17’s issue was with Juan. She is also apparently against the death penalty entirely based on a speech she gave against the death penalty a couple of years ago. Clearly juror 17 perjured herself under oath. This is no ones fault except juror 17. Especially if she lied about her interactions with the prosecution.
Justice was served. A jury was assembled. They were unable to agree on death so now the judge will give the sentence. The justice system worked exactly how it was supposed to for the most part. Someone was murdered. Someone was found guilty. Someone will receive a sentence. Case closed. Take your blood pressure meds.
I have been amazed over and over again that somehow Jodi Arias, convicted murderess, and her supporters consistently believe she is bigger than our justice system. Over and over Nurmi and Wilmott seemed to argue that. When it was all said and done, this is justice. It’s always messy and rarely neat and clean. I’ve said from the trial, if JA can’t get a fair trial then none of us should believe that we could either. Our system either works or it doesn’t.
I believe that we’ll eventually do away with the death penalty. So for now I’ll just think we removed one step in JA’s life in prison… no automatic review of her case.
Arias Bias Virus, continues to flare, doesn’t it…???….. How did Olive Oyl, beat up on, Bluto, withouit, shooting him, first….???…. … Edgrrr…
If Arizona jury rules are the same as FL, maybe Juan was out of objections to jurors and was forced to take her. Do they have a limit in AZ on how many potential jurors each side can reject before they have to accept jurors?
FYI – Just watch a short clip on ABC15 News and 3 jurors, 2 men & 1 women have come out to do TV interviews. They announced the jurors will be on Good Morning America tomorrow @ 7:30 (Monday morning). I also read where juror #17’s current husband’s sister (is) was FB friends with the mitigator’s sister. I’d imagine if people live in the same communities – eventually they can cross paths somewhere. But who knows ! Thank God spring is coming… JA is stuck in prison forever, and we won’t hear much more than a mere mention of her anticipated flurry of appeals.
Thankws TW2 I just hit record. I have a bunch of shows to recap tomorrow because I’m beat tonight but I’ll get on it ASAP.
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I’ve got time before work… I’m watching now & GMA hasn’t announced anything yet ! There’s more out there about Del Rosa mitigating #17’s current husband (? other capitol charges dropped) & made friends w/ his sister, hence #17’s FB friend association. I think misconduct would fall squarely on the juror’s failure to disclose bias anyway. Even if JM tried to make a motion to dismiss her, I’d bet he lost the attempt anyway. I’ve been through jury selection & it’s amazing the reasons lawyers use to dismiss people. I had a girl just smile @ me from the jury box & the defense screamed foul. Last I saw of her was her purse & her ass walking out. (btw – I was the plaintiff & won) 😉 ~ Lol
I gave up at 8:30. The is a video on ABC that shows three of the jurors. It is very short and all it says is that 17 had an agenda.
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Well that Dog didn’t hunt ! – Nothing on my GMA so it maybe it was just for local broadcast. (my apology) T.Hayden in AZ is doing a lot on #17 (I know $$) so we’ll let him do all the work. Thanks TT for keeping a post open until they find #17 in Mexico for a live remote… ha ! – Ya’ know, because AZ.
Napoleon is the dog who could hunt, if, the cops staged a lineup. to see who freaked out the dog, as if, the dog was unaware of the mahem going on… Surely, worth a try…. as is, fingerprinting the ejected brass shell, considering the perfect print necessary, to press the bullets into the springed clip…. Also, was the brass, from the box, in the California burglary…???… … Edgrrr…
OOPS… mayhem…. Edgrrr…
I am very disappointed with the Arias verdict. I am disappointed because Jodi’s crime was horrific. I am an old guy that observed the Manson women’s trial in real time. Jodi’s slaughter of Travis was right in the ballpark with Patrica Krenwinkle’s slaughter of Abigail Floger.Fact is Jodi was worse she killed Travis 3 times over.Krenwinkle originally got the Death Penalty which was thrown out by the California supreme court in 1972. Point being that IMHO Jodi didn’t get what she deserved,the DP. So my question is,can a Judge in Arizona sentence a prisoner to LWOP in solitary confinement. I know that this has been done in the federal prison system. It now appears that juror 17 may have been less that truthful during jury selection. If she was then she put her thumb on the scale of justice.. and if she did that may she pay the price.In the Jodi Trial there will be no more chances at the DP and it feels to me like it took a cheat to get LWOP. LWOP will be the sentence. But to me I feel that there is a need for something more and that would be LWOP in solitary. Now that is really Purgatory. Jodi will not be put to death but Jodi doesn’t deserve to be able to improve her living situation to the point where she can lead a life in GP.The crime was barbaric the punish should fit the crime IMHO
Manson; a case in point…. Did, Travis, the motivational speaker, guru, not, groom Jodi to be his eternal soul saving, operative, when, saying; “I don’t know which of us is the axe murderer, and, make her into his own executioner, if, you want to claim, she did it…??? Try to be honest…. …Edgrrr….
Anyone see where Sheriff Joe put the skids to JA’s visitation / video visitation practices? In addition to other “visitors” JA has been video chatting with a couple 15 year old girls even instructing them on how to make “fake” ID’s to get around age limits to video chat with her in jail. JA gets up to 10 such visitors daily (WHAT THE HELL??) the ban includes those who operate and update her social media accounts etc. JA herself has let it be known thru her surrogates that she is quote: “PISSED” about Sheriff Joe’s actions. plus Arizona Central indicates multiple sources that the court is trying to move up sentencing to later this month. The girl just don’t get it.
Too bad Sheriff Joe isn’t in charge of Perryville.
I just heard in the news today that Utah has just passed a bill to allow executions by firing squad. Is it April 1st already?
Firing squad, Gary Gilmore, Mormon, blood atonement, still alive and well, the secret blood oath, as if, Travis with all his perversions, did not, redeem his eternal soul, coming at last to terms for his failings, as per, doctrine [ law ], and, covenant [ agreement ]…… Edgrrr….
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