Okay I know already this one is going to take awhile. I did no preloading and I didn’t have the First Look on tape.
The Dinner From Hell
Wow, it seems we go straight to dinner! But first Lisa Rinna fills in Eileen and Lisa Vanderpump. Yolanda wants to start the conversation talking about her daughter. Yolanda is trying to get the ladies to open up and talk about real things. Lisa Rinna is weepy. When Lisa was 6 her 21 year old daughter died of a drug and alcohol overdose. Lisa is worried about her own daughters family genetics with alcoholism. That was one of the deepest producer driven plots to try and get to Kim I think we have ever seen, and clearly it works. Lisa tells Kim she is sorry if she has come off as overly invested in her business. She just has a lot of traumatic history on the subject.t Kim looks at her with an evil, dismissive face.
Kim begins to go in on Lisa and say that she has been sober for three years and in three years her friends and family have never seen her like that. Lisa says she has seen her like that. Kim says that Lisa has gone around to everyone to discuss her. Kim shakes her finger at Eileen’s face and says. “you too! you too!” Eileen calmly tells Kim not to point her finger at her. Lisa says she is concerned about her.
Kim says she is concerned about Lisa and her situation at home. Eileen steps in to defend Lisa and Kim is jabbing her finger toward Eileen saying, “Shut your fucking mouth! I’ve had enough of you, you beast!” Kyle is already crying. Kim is pissed that Kyle didn’t defend her on the plane to Lisa. Kim makes fun of how Kyle curled up in a little ball in her plane seat. Kim starts in on Kyle saying that Brandi defends her more than Kyle does. Then she tells Kyle that Kathy would never act like this, she would have her back like a real sister. Lisa Rinna tells Kim that it is not okay to talk to people like that. Kim says “Oh really, why don’t you have a piece of bread and maybe you’ll calm down a little.” That’s interesting. I thought that Kim didn’t remember anything about the Poker Party night. Yet, she remembers being told to eat something to try and get her sobered up.
Yolanda tries to interview and tells Kim that when she talks to Lisa she has talked about her brothers in law and how Harry has only been sober for three years… and Kim interrupts and says “Let’s talk about the husband!” Lisa is ready to blow. Lisa lunges across the table and tries to grab Kim’s face. They have skinny tables in Amsterdam. I’m just saying. And then the water toss followed by the glass smashing on the floor. Kyle runs out of the entire building. I totally believe that is her genuine reaction. Brandi who has not opened her mouth once, tries to keep Kim on her side of the table. Yolanda is quickly by Lisa’s side. And scene.
Yolanda ends up taking Lisa Rinna outside in the rain to comfort her while Eileen goes to try to get Kyle together. Kyle is having a sobbing meltdown. Lisa Vanderpump is keeping a table between herself and Kim who is still ranting away about Harry. Eileen finds Yolanda and Lisa Rinna in a doorway. Kyle goes back for her hand bag. Kim tells Kyle to go off to her new friend. Kyle says Kim wants her to defend her but her behavior is indefensible. Kyle is still crying. Brandi is just standing there taking in the sights and sounds of her handiwork. Lisa Vanderpump finds the sanity doorway and she is crying saying Kim went way too far.
Kim is asking Brandi how people can be so mean. Because, delusional. And Brandi is muttering about having glass in her skin despite being ten feet away from the glass that was thrown. Everyone except Brandi and Kim are crying in a group hug. Kim is muttering that she though Lisa was going to choke her. Gee, I wonder why?
Yolanda goes back to the restaurant and tells Kim that her behavior is not okay. In the van Kyle talks about how she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t when it comes to Kim. She says no one knows what she goes through. Vanderpump says she does, she has seen it.
Meanwhile, Kim is still trying to defend herself to Yolanda. Kim is clearly high while she is talking about Lisa Rinna spreading the rumors about her being drunk or high. Um Kim, WE CAN SEE YOU! YOU ARE NOT INVISIBLE !
Yolanda talks to Brandi and Yolanda about how to proceed on the trip. Lisa Rinna says she will NEVER talk things out with Kim. Then we go to a commercial and return to Kim knocking on Lisa’s door wanting to talk. Kim starts talking about her children. She still is not making any sense. Lisa keeps saying her intentions were good. They both pretend that they can put it behind them.
They manage to have a lovely bike ride to the windmills. Yolanda runs into an old beau who lives in a windmill and Lisa Vanderpump makes jokes about the alternate life Yolanda could have had. I would think living with a nice Dutch guy in a windmill would be a lovely life.
Next the ladies go to meet Yo’s mom and her brother. We have met them before when they came to Beverly Hills. Yolanda says that even though pot is legal in Holland Yolanda’s family has never done drugs. Then Yolanda’s mother said she had tried the “spice cake.” I didn’t know hash was legal there. I would do that. I’m not a fan of pot. Kim decides not to go to the hash barn. The Lisas and Kyle seem to be the only ones anxious to partake. Eileen gives in when the space cake comes.
When they leave, Vanderpump tries to tell Brandi it was uncool for her to call out Kyle as the last person she smoked pot with on camera. The ladies with minor children were all trying to play it cool. Once again, anything that Brandi knows about these ladies will be put out on front street the moment she is not friends with them anymore. Brandi says everyone can say whatever they want to say about her but she can’t say the truth about them. She’s annoyed. Maybe she should have smoked. Brandi rages at Kyle. Brandi doesn’t understand that Brandi is drinking and acting like a shitty parent on camera on the TV show they are all on and that the world is watching. Thus her behavior on TV is FAIR GAME FOR JUDGMENT AND CONVERSATION. Stopping by at Kyle’s house and lighting a joint off camera and not as part of the TV show is OFF LIMITS and not to be brought up when someone says they are trying to set a positive example for their children. Why is Brandi too stupid to understand this? Is the peroxide soaking into her skull?
NEXT WEEK: Is More Amsterdam! Brandi calls Eileen a homewrecker and slaps Lisa Vanderpump in the face!
Little drops of poison, little grains of spite. Is Brandi trying to be the female version of Iago? I really hate Kim and Brandi. I wish they would fall into a canal and drown, but Yolanda and the ladies would be banned in Holland forever for dumping toxic waste.
I love this recap. I agree with every word. I think that whenever there is a fight and Brandi is not in it, it is because she set it up and is watching the fruits of her labor. She wound Kim up tight before they got on the plane. Kim set down to dinner itching for a fight. We have had to listen to Kim drone on about her sobriety for two years, but nobody else can talk about it. She really does not act like somebody working the program. Quite the opposite. In fact, I don’t think she has ever even given it her best shot.
Best moment of the show for me when Brandi says some women just don’t know when to let things go. Says the woman who has been stalking/torturing her ex-husband in every way humanly possible for the last six years. Someone needs to break off Kim’s fingers. Looks like she has had a lot of practice fighting and playing dirty, I can only imagine what her poor children and ex-husbands had to go through.
My take on Brandi’s irrational anger after the pothouse was that she cannot imbibe because of custody issues. She kept bringing up parenting. MY TAKE is that she is angry that other parents can take substances without repercussions while she is unable to because she has constant ongoing custody issues.
She conveniently overlooked that SHE is the one who has prolonged the custody issues and provoked bad feelings.
@Gessiewtf , I agree 100% !
@gilette I thought the same thing on the reason Brandi chose not to partake. But if it was for her kids custody, y even bring up the fact she smoked at kyles?
normalg: Because Brandi also happens to be dumber than a box of rocks. Look at her face right after she says it. She meant to out Kyle but forgot she was outing herself as well.
She’ll handle it in the usual way — “I was acting”
Um so that’s really what you got out of that Gilete? From that 30 second scene you saw 1) Brandi not being able to smoke because she’s in some sort of custody battle 2) she’s forgetting (conveniently) that she’s the one that caused the imaginary custody battle (LOL) 3) she’s angry at all the others for nibbling a fraction of a piece of cake like she did herself even though apparently she couldn’t (but did anyways)
4) Brandi instantly regretted bringing up and stating that she smoked at kyles house, after saying “are we really going to pretend we’ve never smoked before” since she somehow didn’t realize that implicates herself until it was too late “because her face” (LOL) 5) her excuse for telling people she smoked with Kyle would be that she was acting because a statement is anything similar to playing a role
LOL that’s actually hilarious
Yes, Psylocke. That is what I got.
It is my opinion and I rely heavily upon it “in real life”. It’s gotten me a long way and the reason I watch the show is because it is a fun hobby for me to read faces, expressions, and vocal intonations.
I”m glad you thought it was hilarious, but maybe you have a low bar for humor?
(Also, could someone please tell me if there is an emoji with a middle finger sticking up? I don’t usually use those things, but I’d sure love to have one right now)
Well spoken! HA!
I loved your comment about brandi standing there watching her handiwork being played out. So true ! Kim totally turned into brandi during that dinner. I actually loved yolanda this episode because she was being a true voice of reason with Kim, kim is just to high on pills to understand. Yolanda and vanderpump were in full on mommy mode with the other girls.
Turns out brandi is an asshole drunk or sober, it was totally unnecessary to call kyle out like that. I think she was just pissed because LVP and kyle were laughing and getting along and she still can’t take it.
As for the few good parts- Yolanda’s family seems really cute and down to earth, loved the girls on the bikes, Lvp was really down with wanting to eat the cake I loved it.
Why can’t Kim be responsible for her own actions without bringing Brandi into it?
@Lynn, imo to answer your question, because Kim AND Brandi are both irresponsible EVIL drunks and they kind of play off of on another. That was downright dirty the way Kim behaved at that table (provided no editing was involved) and I don’t condone violence on any level, however, in this case, Kim deserves to be cold-cocked (and Brandi too) I know I know then the police would get involved, and charges would be filed and people would be sued, blah blah and blah. But I bet Kim and B would be careful who they spouted evil hateful vile things to in the future.
I agree, Lynn!!!
I also loved Yo’s mom and brother. Yo was so gracious and charming on that trip. The Space Cake Looked Delicious! Brandi and Kim messed up what could have been a really fun time. Those two are such downers. I don’t think they add interest. I think they detract from the whole concept of living vicariously through these ladies’ lives.
I wanted some of their pot cake they were eating! I’ve never been able to figure out how to make a good pot edible. I’ve had a good one and they are amazing. Lisa V obviously agrees; did you notice how she kept going back for more?
Put it in chili
Usually it is hash in cake, not pot — at least that is how it was when I visited Amsterdam.
(Not saying I partook in any). 😉
Hash and pot are technically the same thing, just different parts of the cannabis plant.
See, I told you I didn’t partake. 😉
Hash and pot smoke exactly the same to me except hash is stronger
I personally don’t like pot, but have many friends that partake. I was told you steep the pot and use the liquid in the cakes or brownies – not the actual leaves.
A relative brought me a gummy bear (actually a sheet, very flat) from a dispensary in LA. He told me it was strong and only take a little…I took half because I figured I indulge more than he does/tolerance. I mostly slept that night, but the next morning felt like 4mgs of Xanax…pleasant and felt like I’d just had a massage. I wish I could get edibles, I’m a definite fan.
I can never get the butter and THC extraction to work well but I’ve been told that’s the best method. Sooooo jealous of your ginger snaps!
Sauté it in butter over low heat for 15-20 minutes. This help remove the thc
I made some butter, and with the butter I made peanut butter cookies. They were heaven. Do you grind, then cook it in an oven with tin foil on top before you use it in an edible? I did lots of research first because I didn’t want to waste any. I didn’t really feel high, but it did an amazing job of giving me some pain relief in my back and hip. I also slept better. I only sleep two hours at a time, no matter what, but those two hours were good hard sleep. Edibles have never really made me high, but they really do relax my body.
Could ya’ll head off to the Pot Edibles for Dummies site or sumpthin? We don’t really care about the trials and tribulations of cooking with weed.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Haha!! Pot Edibles for Dummies or Reefer Recipes Made Simple!
Make butter is the usual way.
You all realize you don’t actually just chomp on the pot, right?
You had me at “pain relief” khaleesi. I fell in the shower last Friday and broke two ribs on my left side, numbers 7&8. The pain, even with a steady dose if hydrocodone, is unrelentless. If I can’t go about getting THC in my system the usual method because I can’t take a chance on coughing.
And yes BH; I know you don’t just chomp on the leaves. Lol
I am really shocked Lisa lost her cool and had a “Brandi” moment, though I can’t blame her and. I do like her. Kim needs meds…or she’s on them for her obvious psychological problems and she needs an adjustment. Something is not right with her. She’s so tightly- wound about using that I suspect she’s using & trying to cover it up. Her reactions and tone are so wholly inappropriate especially from someone in active recovery. And — of course — it wound up being all about Kyle when Rinna was the injured party. Is it me or does every RHOBH meltdown feature Kyle in crocodile tears??
Thank you! Kyle found a way to make it ALL about her, all the time. Always the victim.
BH, dear. Have some Kool-Aid. You’ll make more sense. Here is some grape. And try to offer some to the briklle (?) chick. She never drinks it. 🙁
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Brandi is either (1) litigious, or (2) a perpetual victim. Any time there is an altercation, she is somehow “injured”:
Kim jams the escalator, Brandi has hurt her leg
Rinna smashes a glass, Brandi has glass in her hair (note how Kim echoed that minutes later to victimize herself as well)
Kyle defends herself, Brandi has been scratched
Something’s up.
Also, Kim is a slimy disgusting scuzzbucket sociopath. AA won’t help her. The only thing AA or NA will do is give her more buzz words to use against innocent victims of her sociopathy. She’s a twisted piece of garbage and Rinna did the right thing by agreeing to “peace” and to not discuss her or interact with her except at arm’s length.
Thank you! Brandi’s constantly being “injured” annoys the living hell out of me.
The best injury of all time goes to Yolanda when she claims Ken assaulted her, then ran around telling anybody who would listen until the producers rolled the tape back and showed her that he didn’t even touch her. She never mentioned again. Never said she was sorry, either.
She never said ‘assault’…she said over and over ‘don’t touch me Ken’ because he put his hand on her arm. It seemed to me she was a little buzzed that night..too much champagne maybe?
Tanya, Ken never touched her and he deserved an apology.
Even if he had placed his hand on her arm, she definitely twisted it into something bigger than it was.
Implying that a man has touched any woman inappropriately is a huge accusation. Nothing Ken did was inappropriate.
Yo seems like two different people to me a lot of times. Sometimes she is the most levelheaded of the group. Others she is completely out of it. I actually believe it is something to do with her illness. Lyme brain is the same as “brain fog” that accompanies many auto-immune diseases. I think her un-fogged self is a very different person than her brain fogged self.
The problem is that nobody ever knows what to expect.
This does not include, however, Yolanda saying smutty nasty things about Joanna Krupa to Brandi, knowing they would be broadcast. That was just bitter and devious. It’s interesting to watch the now noticeable rift between her, Lisa V, and Mohammed about it. She lost some good friends with that little stunt.
Oh yeah…for sure she blew it out of proportion. But I felt Ken was ‘gettin in women’s bizness’ a little too much and inserted himself when he should have just stayed clear. Personally, I don’t like JKrupa.. she struck me as being a gold digger in her modeling heyday. I luv Yo…she’s my fave. Reminds me of a dutch Gsa Gsa Gabor.
More ploys for attention from a desperate woman
Yes, Gessie! Yolanda could have blamed it on her Lyme disease, at least
😉
Brandi’s catalog of “injuries” actually reminds me of another constantly wounded person – Brandi’s personal nemesis (along with a cast of thousands) Schenea. They both are always hurt, whining and being generally annoying. They should totally meet up, they have SO much in common.
It’s really not necessary to call Kim or anyone a twisted piece of garbage. She’s obviously deep into her addiction and probably suffering from other mental issues caused by her lack of childhood. It’s sad. She is super fucked up. But hopefully there is hope for her still. Someone in her family needs to give her half the consideration that Eileen and Lisa Rinna have and try to get her back in rehab. And it can’t be Kyle. Kyle has taken all the crap she can stand from Kim at this point and needs to just cut Kim off and save herself at this point.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Actually…unless her family is gonna hold an intervention with a trained drug counselor, the best thing all concerned can do is to cut off ALL communication until she gets her life together. The 12 steps apply to friends and family too.
Good Lawd, it shouldn’t be Kathy! Her kids are certainly a hot mess! I think it was especially sad and pretty telling the damage Kim admitted it affecting her kids….but in the same breath she took no responsibility it seemed so it was hard to feel the compassion.
TT, I agree. There seems to be something so sad about Kim. I can’t ever remember a time when Kim was happy. I hope she gets the help she needs, and you’re correct, it can’t be Kyle. I like Kyle and I hope she can find peace.
I thought the bread comment from Kim to Lisa R. was about Lisa R. not eating (allegedly) not about Kim remembering being told to eat something at Poker Night. My version is funnier (in a black humor kind of way — Kim knows how to push people’s buttons when she goes on one of her tears).
I liked how Eileen pointed out that Kim never actually apologized to *her* for Poker Night. Kim constantly does that — yells, exasperated “I’m sorry” in a talking head and pretends she’s “apologized” for something.
I agree that it was totally shitty for Brandi to bring up off camera behavior on camera — she did the same thing with Lisa last year about how she’s been at Lisa’s house drinking with her to justify her being pissed that Lisa told her not to drink so much while filming. Obviously the same thing was at issue here — it’s perfectly reasonable for Lisa not to want to be drunk on camera as it is for Kyle to not want to be seen smoking a joint on camera.
BUT Kyle was kind of annoying with the whole pretending not to even know how to roll a joint — come on, these women were teens in the 80s — they know how to roll a joint.
Been smoking for years and I can’t roll a joint!
Brandy was just mad that peace had ensued. She just had to start shit again when Kim wasn’t with them.
Brandy thinks Kyle’s a punk. But like what happens to all bullies, Kyle is going to go commando on her ass- Soon.
You can only push an emotional person so far. Then it’s all over.
And I can’t wait.
Use paper money. The rule is to use the highest denomination in your wallet. The bill can be used easily as “low-tech” convenient joint roller. I learned how to do it by hand in college & I can roll the most symmetrically cylindrical tight doobies you can ever wrap your lips around.
i’m allergic to pot and i’m great at rolling joints. allegedly. 30 yrs ago.
Then you’re doing it wrong.
I don’t think Kim ever got to the step where u make amends. Not with a sponsor anyway. I like how she knocked on Lisa’s door to talk but lisa was the only one apologizing or taking accountability for her behavior; something Kim has no idea how to do. Yet, she proudly proclaims that due to her years “on and off” in treatment, (Freudian slip) she has learned how to forgive.. How big of her.
I was really rooting for her but I can’t even manage sympathy these days. Her behavior is just vile and hateful.
Once again, Kim is a SOCIOPATH. It is dangerous to put sociopaths in any type of therapy or program because they learn the phrasing and later use the words against others.
Therefore, “I’m being a total asshole and everyone has to accept it” becomes “I’m expressing myself” and “I’m gobbling as many drugs as I can get because I like them and I don’t give a shit about how other people are affected” becomes “I have an illness called addiction and people shouldn’t blame me for my actions”. It goes on and on.
I don’t think Kim ever got to the step where you admit you are powerless if she thinks she can take a cancer patients pain pills but still maintain her sobriety.
According to most addiction experts, addicts can look a lot like sociopaths, but most of the time it’s the drugs/alcohol talking.. Not an inability to empathize. kyle has said how great her relationship with Kim was when she wasn’t abusing substances so imho, I think what we are seeing is someone deep in their addiction and the defensiveness that goes with that. She knows just enough recovery speak to throw that around and think it sounds good. The fact she had some sobriety under her belt makes it all the more difficult for her to accept that she’s fallen off the rails. This is a very sick person but I don’t see sociopath.
The bread comment was definitely a dig about Lisa R. allegedly not eating. She looks emaciated.
Totally agree, that was about Lisa R. not eating. Brandi made that comment in one of her bravo blogs some time ago
tuleesha,
I agree. I took it as she was implying Lisa R was anorexic.
I agree but I loved the comment Lisa Rinna made about her children know she NEVER passes up a piece of cake, EVER, as her way of trying the space cake even though she has young children at home. It made me giggle.
I thought the same thing about the bread comment. Perhaps a dig at a possible eating disorder?
Oh it could have been about Lisa’s weight. I didn’t think of that. The way Kim said it just sounded like she was mocking people trying to get her to eat at the party.
Lisa Rinna really does need to eat a piece of bread.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
I definitely took the bread comment as a dig at Lisa R.’s weight. What else was she talking about regarding Lisa’s home life? Is she insinuating that Harry abuses her? She kept ranting that it’s something the whole group has discussed-I took it as her weight and some other deep dark home-life secret-
Am I the only one who thinks Lisa Rinna is fit as hell? She’s always been into working out and even had a workout dvd. Her abs were fierce all the way back on Melrose Place and I feel like anyone who watches what they eat and is responsible about following a plan gets eye rolls and criticized. She’s never looked sickly thin to me, I see toned muscle on a size 2.
Sickly thin to me is Giuliana Rancic. Her cheeks are sunken in and it can’t even be hidden by fillers.
I agree with you, I think she looks fantastic. She has a tiny frame-she looks fit and not sickly, you mentioned Guiliana Rancic, oy vey. She looks like a lollipop, and to me, always been scary thin. But I think Lisa R looks great.
She doesn’t eat bread. She eats cake.
No, it was definitely what you said first, she threw their own words back in their faces.
Lisa R might be tiny but she is a health nut & SUPER fit. Nobody eats much in Beverly Hills anyway, including Kim. They’d NEVR abuse each other for not eating lol none of them eat.
Lisa R is one of the few housewives I’ve seen eat on camera.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:01 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
I thought she didn’t look any worse than the other women until I caught a view of Rinna from the side… Too skinny. Way too skinny.
They had money. They didn’t have to roll the joint themselves. Kim and Kyle paid people to do it for them. Or maybe they were pipe or bong users? There are a lot of pot smokers that can’t roll a joint to save their lives.
Nah — teens don’t have the help rolling they joints. That was part of the annoying extra “act” that’s she’s never even been around pot before.
Doesn’t warrant Brani’s reaction. But it was bullsht nonetheless
I also think that Kimsley’s “eat a piece of bread” comment was a dig at Lisa Rina’s slender body. Kim Richards is vicious. So is Brandi. When they eventually start fighting with each other (again), secrets will be spewed and feathers will fly. Really am weary of the Now Predictible Brandi attack and Retreat dance, yawn, and the Is Kim sober or is she not storyline, big yawn.
marky please read the commenting rules about stupid nicknames.
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/commenting-rules/
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Thanks for all the recaps today,TT, it’s like Christmas Recap Day.
i dislike lisa r and giuliana rancic but i’m still scared they’ll die from their extreme anorexia. i remember yrs ago harry trying to put it all on her being in extremely great shape but it looks like some kind of mental illness to me. it looks much worse than it was back then. body dysmorphia or whatever, it’s scary as shit.
I think a greater mental illness is looking at someone’s body and determining their state of mind by it.
Some people are naturally thin. Rinna has high levels of activity and is very alert mentally. Because she is thin does not mean she has anorexia or any other mental illness. She is just thin.
If I recall correctly, she was the one who finished the milkshake that Yolanda refused to touch . . . ? Anorexics don’t do that. They make excuses as to why they can’t eat/drink, not happily grab a straw.
I agree with Gilette. If anybody has exhibited some eating disorder tendencies – it’s been Yolanda.
@ Chris, your comment makes no sense. What do you mean by “Harry trying to put it all on her being in extremely great shape but it looks like a mental issue to me”, wtf does that even mean? I personally think LR’s figure is amazing and I guess most other people do too as she won the poll for best body ( something like that) and she’s always being showcased in photos wearing a bikini. I have no idea if she’s anorexic or not as she’s new to the show and we don’t know all that much about her to make any assumptions like you have.
I don’t see Lisa R as anorexic. She’s extremely muscular and fit, and probably naturally slim.
Some people are in show biz and watch their weight like a hawk. They make their living from how they look. Lisa Rinna has always been thin ( from her early days until the present). She’s a beauty and she wouldn’t look the same without her trademark skinnyness. Giuliana Rancic is also a skinny minny. She’s tall and has a model’s thin frame. Are all thinning people “mentally ill” because they’re thin?! Methinks Not.
It’s sad but true that I have seen every episode of every season of every Housewives. Without a doubt, that was the most intense and disgusting scene I’ve ever seen! Brandi and Kim are evil and irritable because they are jonesing for a buzz. I’ve been that way and picked fights with my significant others so I could have an excuse to do what I want. And, of course, they are douchey cunt bitch twats.
Love how Brandi prentended she followed through with the lemon cleanse. We saw 0.0 evidence of that.
Of course she did. Lemon jello shots, lemonade with vodka, smoke some weed and lick a lemon, etc.
Bahahaha! Two snaps on that!
I thought she had nothing to share since she went to talk to Lisa R the next morning. But then Kyle talked to Andy tonight on WWHL that Kim will say more in depth on Harry. Long as it has nothing any serious life threatening illness I think I can be ok. But I feel all her information is coming from Brandi. Brandi looks into people’s past and spills tea all the time. Just this season Kim is her mouthpiece. Kim does drama but to investigate on someone I don’t believe.
Last night on WWHL it sounded like Kyle was saying that Kim goes after Lisa AGAIN on the reunion about Harry….sigh…
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Still wanna nail me on the “twisted piece of garbage” comment?
(You are right, of course, that name calling is not the most attractive thing to do. However, in some cases, it has to be done to curb the natural impulse for sympathy. A small percentage of our society preys on sympathy and uses it to hurt the person feeling sorry for them)
Wow. I hope not. Poor Harry’s been disparaged by Kimsley like Ken and Mauricio were (last season). Harry and Mauricio accused of infidelity. Ken accused of “touching” Yo. Guess the ladies get bored pecking on each other and eventually go after the husbands?
I love how Brandi kept mentioning the glass hitting her multiple times and then tried to make it sound like she had been cut. She really wanted to make the situation about herself… as is her m.o. I’m surprised she didn’t arrive the next morning covered in bandaids for her “cuts.” Her freak out the following evening was another attempt to garner attention, so fake & desperate. You could tell, as she straggled behind the pack, that she was running through idea of what to do next since she was clearly odd man out.
I have a feeling that somewhere in the contracts it says that you can’t involve the police unless there is some kind of injury. Thus, Brandi and Kim are keeping their fingers crossed for an injury so that they can involve even higher drama.
Perhaps TT can comment on whether that guess is accurate or not. It is only a guess, but from the actions of our resident manipulators, I’m thinking it might be a good one.
But with on the job injuries, there is the dreaded drug test! I am willing to bet that’s why Brandi refused to her her broken hand looked at last season. She said that she didn’t have health insurance, but she injured her hand on the job. Along with alcohol, it probably would have showed vitamins THC and C. That would have given Eddie a whole other drawer in a file cabinet of evidence if he ever decided to sue for full custody.
I recall the cops getting called on RHoNJ when Daniel Staubs hair was pulled by Jaqualine’s daughter, Ashley. I I think Ashley was arrested for assault ?Good grief that was a long time ago!
/heavy sigh
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
So you honestly think a contract would be court enforceable to tell someone they can’t call the police?
And again with the insane conspiracies. Insane, but hilarious.
I assume you are writing to me again, Psylocke. I didn’t assume anything. I clearly stated “I have a feeling” and asked for TT’s comments.
But, yes, I believe that it is entirely legitimate to have a contract discouraging calls to the police with a financial disincentive. Obviously, if it is an assault with injuries, that wouldn’t apply, but I’m curious about calling for minor infractions.
But the other option was that Brandi is a perpetual victim, which seems more reasonable.
I guess I have to wonder why your comments all seem to be geared towards attacking me rather than your own thoughts on the show?
Was nice to see the girls have some fun and laugh as they walked home from the coffee shop and see how their happiness pissed Brandi off so much as she walked by herself. She tries to blame them for being hypocritical but she is really just jealous.
I enjoy the scenes where they are all getting along and having fun. I’m not into fake drama, and I have no tolerance for people like Brandi, Kim, and Kenya who want to tear people down to make themselves feel good.
SMDH……the Kenya hate is so real. Even when we are talking about a whole different show….somehow her name is brought up. You’ve gotta be a Phaedra troll…
Say what?
Kenya???
Kenya needs to tear people apart in order to feel good? When the hell has she EVR done that? By defending herself? That’s NOT the same thing.
I think Kenya has no problem feeling good about herself. If anything, she’s going to boast about herself, not insult the others.
Try a couple of Kenya’s castmates: Nene and Phaedra, for example. Both pride themselves on their “witty” verbal attacks on other castmates.
But then again, those who hate Kenya will find a way to work it into a post on RHOBH.
Am I the only one wondering what Kim was threatening to spill about Harry? Lisa R. to losing her cool like that was so shocking and *highly* suspect.
Could also be the reason Lisa R. let Kim in her room the next morning (after swearing to not speak to Kim again) and it was, IMO, the subtext that Kim was relaying in her nonsense speech — Kim’s intent was not to tell Lisa R. “lets move on” but to reiterate that she will spill it Lisa R. doesn’t drop it.
As someone else said last week — Lisa R. found out what everyone is scared of Kim.
A hit dog will howl!
Lisa acted worse than Phaedra did. She almost throttled Kim, and definitely did throw a drink on her. Now, I do understand sticking up for your husband, but methinks the lady doth protest too much. Curious…
I agree. Lisa jumped up out of her seat, lunged at Kim, threw a drink at her, and then broke a glass….. And kim is the one with atrocious behavior??? Not this time….
I dont know, I cant really blame Lisa R for finally reaching her limit with Kim and freaking out. Between the plane and then trying to apologize just to have threats made? I’d have lost my shit too. Kim just pokes and pokes with Brandi cheering her on, its enough to make anyone throw a glass.
Actually…re-watch the scene…Rinna did NOT throw a drink on Kim.She slammed the glass on the table and glass/wine flew everywhere.
Whatever happened to getting up and walking out?
Yeah, if the exact situation happened to Brandi instead of Lisa, you injected focus would be on Brandi’s violence/drinking/inability to control herself.
That said, I thought Lisa’s move was straight out of Melrose Place. So theatrical!
*you KNOW the focus would have been on Brandi’s…
Not sure how autocorret decided injected was a better word!
Kim doesn’t mingle in Hollywood society. How would she know any insider gossip about Lisa and Harry? I think she learned Brandi’s tactic of spewing lies to take people down, like claiming that LVP and Ken had been through bankruptcy.
Brandy probably told her something. She spews gossip as if it were the gospel.
she probably paid 9.95 and got his arrest record
Brandi is the one who told Lisa whatever there is to know about Harry.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
How would you know of Kim mingles or not? Ha! Let’s not forget that she’s the most accomplished actress’s of all these women. I’m the only one who’s on her side, I know, but other than her behavior at the poker party, she seems sober IMO. I think she’s tired of being his pitiful, weak screwed up person that everyone bags on constantly. i think everyone is especially hard on Kim. Calling her a sociopath is mean. Just sayin.. I doubt any of these women will ever treat her as an equal. They need someone to put down to make themselves feel better. I don’t know about the addiction but Ive been a single mom for 15 years. Not by choice but more bc of geographical reasons. Ha! And I find that I don’t always get the same respect as married women sometimes who seems to have life a little easier.
Maybe there is something, but maybe there is not. How would Kim be privey to something Harry did? Kim is not above making stuff up. If it were me, I would have never spoken to her (KIM) again. I would not havr answered the door and would have ignored her. it hard to know hat goes on in the mind of a devious crazy person.
If it was a lie, why didn’t Lisa R laugh it off with her usual unbothered grace? She reacted really strongly, *really strongly* when she couldn’t just dismissed Kim as a loony liar. Unless she was giving Brandi that soap opera scene she was hoping for weeks ago. Complete with the tossed drink.
Lisa R tweeted that she still doesnt know what the big HH secret was. Lisa tweeted “did he fuck the dog?” lol
Classy, eh?
Yea, it’s one thing for a rumor to make its way around you and you laugh it off because it’s not true. But when someone (that you were trying to help) keeps hurling insults at you over and over within 5min your reaction will be more aggressive. I think Lisa r had HAD IT! She just said “you eff w my kids I’ll eff w u” so Kim is just saying things to hit below the belt. None of it makes sense.
Lisa had apologized 4,000 times, and I think she lost her patience with Kim. I also think she knows had culpability by her reaction in that fight, and it would behoove her to smooth things over for the sake of the gig.
Agree totally…I would lose it with that little bitch. And what she said to Eileen!! “Shut the fuck up you beast!” with her finger in Eileen’s face, OMG it’s a wonder Kim hasn’t had her teeth knocked out.
Lisa clearly has something she desperately wants kept under wraps. I was also thinking that lisa was hoping to placate her so she would keep her mouth shut. Clearly that didn’t work. If lisa wants to go ahead and throttle Kim now, I’d be cool with it.
Honestly Lisa’s reaction is understandable either way – if she has something to hide, it’s valid she would be defensive. If she has nothing to hide, hitting the roof the way she did is also valid. You can honestly take someone being that nasty and hateful before you’ve just had it. I am inclined to think that Kim doesn’t really know anything and she was lashing out but based on Lisa’s reaction she stumbled onto a sore spot and she took great pleasure in it. IMHO it doesn’t matter if Kim has the dirt or not because either way she’s in the wrong. Wielding whatever she might possibly know was a low blow and if she doesn’t know anything but is trying to defame their marriage…I can’t blame Lisa for getting furious. I don’t condone violence and Lisa should never have gotten physical but I can understand why she did. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and Lisa got burned on her way down that one. I thought Brandi was the worst but seriously…Kim is. Brandi is a very close second though.
My bf had the same opinion but if I was in Lisa’s situation & someone came after my bf out of nowhere- like they had some dirt or implying anything neg. about him – I would flip the f* out. Not b/c there is anything to hide, but simply b/c he didn’t do anything to deserve the implication of a rumor & wasn’t there to defend himself. Not cool.
Plus all this “my kids” stuff is a b.s. excuse for Kim’s horrible behavior/reactions. How does Kim think her heavy handed threats affect Lisa’s family & her kids? Pretty hypocritical, she owed her a real apology for that crap.
Also Kim’s kids know their mom is a nut job, even if Harry had a past/secret, he’s doesn’t have it on display in front of his kids like she has w/ her drug addiction/alcoholism over X many seasons of network television! She’s a piece of work.
@HiKitty yeah that “you ‘re hurting my children….” (or something to that effect) comment coming from Kim is just comical. She doesn’t care how stupid she looks to her children (I would bet they’re embarrassed) She said LR was lying on her (???) I didn’t get that. Seems to me Kim had been spoiling for some kind of fight since before they got off the plane. I know this woman needs help but somebody (in that group) has got to draw the line somewhere with her, and just walk away.
Yesterdays post “The Real Housewives of Everywhere has jumped the shark” says pretty much everything that needs to be said about this show tonight.
Agreed.
Just to clarify, TT, when Kim told Rinna to eat a piece of bread, she wasn’t referring to Poker Night. It was a low blow at Rinna’s weight and how she’s been rumored to have an eating disorder. So many low blows were thrown her way. I’m surprised she’s still standing. Rinna should have gotten the message by now to stop making Kim’s sobriety her story-line. Vanderpump learned her lesson in Paris. Kim definitely got ugly.
Also, I hate to side with Brandi, but what she said at the end is true. Don’t point out others’ bad behavior if you do the same thing. Whether it’s off camera or not, if you’re dealing with someone like Brandi and on Real Housewives, don’t expect your skeletons to stay in the closet long. Brandi made Kyle look like an idiot at the coffee shop. Vanderpump didn’t help when she all but confirmed Brandi’s truth bomb… that was definitely awkward to watch for Kyle’s sake… ooops!
Who cares if Kyle smokes the occasional joint? I don’t recall seeing her being carried out of a club with her tampon string hanging out.
Kyle cares, which is why she reacted the way she did to Brandi calling her out. Vanderpump also cares, since she’s the one who immediately started chastising Brandi for her truth bomb.
When are people going to realize that you can’t trust Brandi with anything? I guess Kim will be the next one to learn.
Kyle is never stoned or drunk on t.v. and has a five year old daughter who is going through a just say no to drugs campaign. Brandi was just being mean.
First off, Kyle HAS been drunk on tv before. Second, you’re dodging the comment/statement completely. While Brandi’s motivations were rooted in jealousy and hatred, what she said was true about Kyle and in general, everyone else.
If Kyle has smoked on and off camera, she don’t exhibit the same qualities as being high as Kim or Brandi does. When Kim and Brandi are high, drunk – they want to be confrontational and fight with others. If Kyle has ever been high she’s probably been one mellow weed smoker. There are some people who can smoke and still be perfectly fine and chill. Kyle might be one. Brandi, on the other hand, after she had the hash brownies really pitched a fit and carried on. I think also Brandi was mad because Kyle didn’t get peer pressured into smoking or eating hash brownies. She didn’t want Kyle to be looked at the good parent for a second. And Brandi as usual the bad parent. Even over something as little as having hash.
I have to disagree about Kyle being a mellow weed smoker (allegedly). My bet is Kyle would be a giggling hysterically for the first 1/2 hour then totally paranoid weed smoker.
LOL! She did say it would be a bad idea if she ate the hash brownies.
If I’m not mistaken I don’t think Brandi ate any of the space cake either. I think she said in her talking head she didn’t because she didn’t want to get out of control, or something like that.
She was out of control even when she didn’t eat the brownies! She was pissed Kyle to fall for her peer pressure, like she might have when they were weed smoking pals.
I am not a fan of Kim or Brandi, but the hypocrisy of attacking someone and therefore attacking their family and smoking pot off camara versus on camera. Where do you draw the line? Your family or theirs? It seems like the lines were crossed, but they were not crossed first by Kim or Brandi.
Have you seen any previous seasons? Both Kim and Brandi have crossed moral lines first. Just look at what Brandi did to Adrienne and Lisa Vanderpump a couple of seasons ago. This one here has a short memory. 🙁
Pardon me, but there is no hypocrisy with Kyle + LVP taking a recreational toke and addicts like Kim. If I have an obese friend does that mean I can’t eat cake?
You better not try to eat the cake around your friend….
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
LOL…thanks for that TT! This recap has taken over my life today!
Micheal, I respectfully disagree, I remember Adrienne and Brandi’s conversation when Brandi accused Adrienne of starting rumors first about her because she did not agree to go after LVP. As far a Kim goes, it appears if you don’t bring up Kim’s addiction or problems, she is content being the center of her own universe and does not go out of her way to get to know the other women or even to make an effort to learn anything about them.
Thank you! Kyle is the number one hypocrite. She reveals nothing about herself while openly discussing others, especially her sister. Kim went through how many seasons of her addiction being the focus of the show? Why doesn’t she have the same right to ask the others to keep some things private too? I don’t get how no one else sees this?
Kyle responded to brandis random outburst of “let’s not pretend” she was simply pointing out that she wasn’t pretending, she just didn’t want to announce that she smokes pot because of her kids. I didn’t see Kyle outing Brandi about it. Brandi was just jealous because Kyle and lisa were having so much fun together. It’s the ONLY reason Brandi buddied up to Kim… She can’t have lisa so she wants to hurt Kyle anyway she can
There’s no rumor of Rinna having an eating disorder. Yes, there were a few fans talking about it as a possibility when trying to figure out why Kim would go there after watching the First Look, but TT got it right.
Actually, there are rumors. This one went over TT’s head.
Or it was exactly what I said it was, Kim telling Lisa to eat something just as everyone told Kim at the poker party. It’s amazing you guys are all so sure what goes on in Kim Richard’s head. It’s clear there are a lot of druggies commenting, so perhaps you have some special knowledge of how her brain works.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
I took the ‘eat some bread’ to be a slight against Rinna’s weight too. As if she starves herself, so is always cranky kind of thing. It was as if Kim was saying ‘i may be a drunk, but you are ana and your husband is a boozer’. Clearly this displeased Rinna. 🙂
Thing is, I googled it and nothing out there to warrant “been rumored to have an eating disorder”. No remains of any previous discussion concerning Lisa and eating disorder, whatsoever.
However, there was the poker party where, out of concern for her after her outrageous behavior, Kim was encouraged to eat.
Moreover, you watch Lisa R next to Brandi and who’s thinner? The only difference I see is Lisa R’s buff and Brandi thin arms are flabby.
I’ve gotta go with JD on this. Rinna is super thin… I think Kim was alluding to the LA actress thing about eating ‘paleo’ or ‘microbiotic’ or salads and water only.
I think I saw these rumors THIS WEEK on the cover of supermarket tabloids.
I immediately took it as a skinny dig. Kind of like “give the girl a cheeseburger” comment to someone who looks anorexic.
Typically, “eat a cheeseburger, or make a sandwich is said to a skinny person.” OTOH, “Eat some bread” is said to someone who needs to soak up some alcohol, as was said to Kim at the poker party.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
My mother is In her late 50’s and is 5’5 and 100 pounds soaking wet. No eating disorder, just naturally thin. Unfortunately, that didn’t pass on to me. It is possible for Rinna to be that thin and be healthy, no one is hollering about Brandi being Ana.. Have yall noticed her legs?!
Agreed, and i believe this is the problem Brandi has with many of them.
Unlike pretty much everyone on this site, I like Brandi. I don’t think she fits in with these women at all, but I like her. She needs to leave the show though; it is not suited to her personality.
Tanya, where you are going is what I would agree to. Might even say, over exercise and that she needs to soften up, but, no matter what we privately might have think at one particular moment, it doesn’t justify saying ongoing rumors of having an eating disorder, when there have been none. That’s all.
Agreed. But I still think Rinna is too thin. After a certain age it looks desperate…just my opinion.
Tanya, so after a certain age you should be fat and unfit and let it all hang out? Nonesense.
Ugh. Brandi is such an idiot acting like everyone is being “fake” for the camera. Kyle smoked a joint with you off camera. She has kids and is trying to be a good role model. Not everything needs to be for public consumption.
Not even space cake!
Yeah, but I get Brandi’s frustration at Kyle for being an overly dramatic actress about how she knows NOTHING about pot or the sorts. Kyle was being unnecessarily extra. It’s kind of like if you see a guy spouting off about how “straight” he is yet you just banged him a month ago. While it deserves an eyeroll, there was no need for Brandi to call Kyle out. Still, I get the frustration.
I get what you are saying JD but Kyle did roll a fake joint and showed it to Lisa who put it in her mouth. They were laughing about it and having a good time. Kyle didnt seem to be clutching her pearls. It looked like she wasnt use to eating pot and was clueless about that. Brandi took that as being “fake”.
I think Kyle was simply having a good time after a rough afternoon. Brandi is a jealous, vindictive, calculating individual that has to “call” people out over anything and everything. She just cannot let anything go! The only reason this became an issue is beccause Brandi made it an issue. Kyle very politely asked Brandi to not bring up off camera antics for public consumption, necause of the kids. But because she has a bug up her ass she became her charming self……
Kyle was being extra, but it was completely innocent and lighthearted. I enjoyed seeing Lisa Vanderpump and Kyle just have a good time again. Brandi has a HUGE chip on her shoulder over bloggers/commenters etc calling her a bad mother. She blames the ladies for flaming that fire by discussing her bad drunken antics on camera, when really she should blame herself for doing those drunken antics on camera.
Until then, Brandi will continue to project, and this time it was Kyle who was the victim.
I also think BG is jealous that Kyle + LVP are cool again…it was nice to see them laughing and joking.
I mean, obviously Kyle was having a good time, and like I said, I don’t think she necessarily deserved to be called out. Really, the only reason Brandi said anything at all is because she was jealous and hateful. Motivations aside, what she said about Kyle was obviously true. That’s all I’m saying.
I get what you’re saying and agree completely — Kyle was being unneccessarily extra about not knowing ANYTHING about pot — it was what I meant when I wrote above that Kyle was being annoying about it.
And I agree it still didn’t warrant Brandi calling her out on her off camera behavior. Brandi will argue that Kyke was being “fake” but I don’t think there is anything wrong with not wanting to get high on camera the same way I don’t think there is anything wrong with not wanting to get drunk on camera. It’s being responsible/circumspect; not fake.
However I don’t think it was just jealousy on Brandi’s part – there was moment when Kyle was being extra acting like she had never seen rolling paper where she turned to Brandi and said “is this right” — although I think it was all lighthearted, I’m sure Brandi took that as a dig of Kyle saying Brandi knows because she’s a druggie while playing Miss Innoccent who’s never rolled a joint. I still think it was BS for Brandi to say what she did but I think that is what pushed her over the edge about the whole scenario.
I agree mlncasa. Just because brandy doesn’t care if her kids see her drunk, stoned, with butt cheeks and tampon string hanging out, doesn’t mean other ppl are hypocrites for trying to be a good role model for their kids.. That bitch is just whack. I hope she’s gone next year
I meant Jodie. Not mlncasa
Let’s be honest.. Without Kim and /or Brandi, none of us would be watching this show. None of the other women would ever allow anything real or negative to be said about them and it would be so boring. This show needs them. They’re not going anywhere. Who would everyone talk about?
Oh darn Bliss! I would love to chat with you!! I agree to a point with you, it IS important to be a GOOD role model and therefore how hard is it to refrain from smoking pot (unless you have a problem, which I don’t believe kyle does) especially with a person you do not trust. I think I am getting very old because in the last year or so, I realized, living one life is hard enough, I don’t want to live two! And therefore, it is not worth it putting on an act to please others or pretend I am without transgressions. I also agree that Brandi is crazy and would probably be better off on another reality show …. And Just between us, I have some guilt watching Kim as a form of entertainment. She clearly has a problem and needs help.
EXACTLY. Honestly I’d respect Brandi more if she didn’t act like she’s just being soooooo real. She basically wanted to ruin everyone else’s good time by picking a fight and being relevant to the moment. Own your sh*t at least, you know?
With Brandi, All the secrets you share Are for public consumption. She just saves them up and uses these confidences as weapons for a later date. She’s a low level bish who “narcs” people out for doing what she herself has done. And she has the Gall to call out Kyle and the others for being Hypocrites? !
Too bad we can’t vote Kim and Brandi off the show. Kim, no matter how loud she howls about sobriety, exhibits symptoms of some kind of drug addiction. Brandi is just trash. Love Eileen and the Lisa’s.
I love it, a new twist on the franchise, the audience decides who goes and who stays!
Too bad we couldn’t vote them off the show and move them to Hollywood Exes…which would have been the better fit for Brandi. That show just got cancelled. Maybe we could vote to have them moved to Intervention?
Oh no, really? I loved Hollywood Exes..
Oh my godddddd.
I figured out that Kim thinks she can call herself sober because she no longer uses alcohol, the substance she was caught overdoing, but now it’s ok for her to use any other mind altering substance.
Addicts are only addicts with mind altering substances, right?
Kim is such a miserable human being. I do give her credit after the god awful things I’ve read that go on in Hollywood especially to kid actors but I’m angry at the family for not getting her help. They all need help and I really feel for Kyle.
Ps TT, you might want to fix “When Lisa was 6 her 21 year old daughter died …” But it made me laugh 🙂
First Rule of Housewives: If it didn’t happen on camera or the person who committed the act doesn’t mention it on camera first, it did not actually happen and no one else can bring it up.
Second: Never ever mention you are on a TV show while on camera.
Three: Bow to Andy
Id break kims scraggly witch finger in half if she put It In my face like that.
ditto. All five at once.
Finger breaking is okay, but Porsha dragging Kenya’s ass across a stage is not. Okay…
what got me, got me in the gut was when kim said that her kids went through hell because of her drinking and the rumors would do it again. the bitch should listen to herself, she, kim, did that. not lisa r. not brandi, not kyle. kim put the bottle to her lips, the pills in her mouth, no one did that to her. her kids are seeing this and there have been many times over the last 3 years that her sobriety was questioned. i really believe lisa r comes form a place of concern and reality, and i don’t even know why she bothered to try with her. kim was loaded there in the restaurant, that was loaded, caught, nasty behavior. i don’t think kyle ahs always had kim’s best interests at heart but io felt bad for her, she was mortified and i feel bad for that. eileen should have leaned over and slapped a bitch, for real.
It seems neither Brandi or Kim realize when you point your finger at someone there are three fingers pointing right back at you.
I so agree with you that it is KIM who put the bottle to her lips — she and everyone else around her need to start admitting that if Kim is going to get well. But Kim has never — from what I’ve seen on the show — acknowledged that — it was the ex-con boyfriend, it’s Kyle not supporting her, it’s Brandi, it’s Monty dying, its Lisa asking if she took a sleeping pill, it’s Monday. Blah, blah, blah. That is why I don’t believe she’s ever been sober — she may have periods were she doesn’t use, but she’s far from sober — sober people take responsibility for their actions.
Kim still doesn’t accept or realize that her kids know when she’s altered. I used altered instead of drunk, because Kim is a dry drunk. She is only abstaining from drinking, but she is abusing Rx meds. The only one living with her now is Chad. They’ve been around the block with Kim 100s of times and can tell when their mother is juiced. But like most addicts, Kim still believes that she can hide it.
Let’s not forget Brandi’s “patch” revelation. Somehow that hasn’t been brought up again — I think Brandi knew she slipped up badly.
Suzanne, did Kim ever have physical custody of the kids? Didn’t they all live with their fathers?
Kimsley? Who is that?
The idiot has been moderated until commenting rules are read and followed.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
@therealdeb, here, here. I agree.
Whew! Excellent recap Tamara! Omgosh! Where to begin? BG is the biggest C U Next Thur of all the HW’s with Kim coming in second. She goes 0-100…def withdrawal/jonesing behavior. Although I really felt for Kyle…the incessant need to explain herself irked me. The best part? When Kim went in on Eileen and she replied ‘How dare you?’ in her soap queen voice….lol.
She threw in a few “shame on you”s too. LOVE *bows down to Eileen*
Queen Eileen. I think I have a new fav housewife.
I love Eileen!! I hope she sticks around for another season.
I believe Kyle had the incessant need to explain herself due to the 1st season(?) in the limo when she called out Kim for her drinking. She got bombarded with hateful comments & some still hold that against her. IMO – she had just had enough!
I’m excited to watch this episode. 😀
Go the Lisas!
Kim just showed her real self with or without drugs. She’s mean, cruel, nasty, disrespectful, and provoking. What she said to Kyle and putting Kathy Hilton (who isn’t Princess Diana by a mile) up on a pedestal blew me away. Hate to say, but had she said that to me, we’ll be done. Kim has absolutely no loyalty to Kyle what so ever. Kyle even point out that if she doesn’t defend Kim she “gets in trouble.” More than likely it’s by Kathy herself. Lisa R said it best Kyle needs to stop taking the abuse. Enough is enough. Preach.
I was really sick when she cut off Lisa R when she was speaking about her decease sister. Kim was soulless and heartless. I don’t blame Lisa R’s reaction. She’s human. Kim kept wanting a confrontation and she kept poking the pull. Oh and she called Eileen a “beast” wow Kim, jealous much? And pointing the finger all in Eileen’s face. SMH. Then Kim was trying to pin herself as the victim, with the glass in her pants stuff. No one cares, least I don’t.
I loved how Eileen, The Lisa, and Kyle defended each other through this one because it was total insanity from Kim. Brandi she thinks she off the hook from the drama, LMAO, who hear her in her talking head? And what was Brandi trying to pull by “outting” Kyle as her pot smoker in crime. I couldn’t help but laugh at this one too. Because Kyle even said she’d smoked before but it’s not her thing mainly the space cakes she told Andy on WWHL. Plus lets measure smoking weed to patches, Xanax, and alcohol. Last I checked no one has died from smoking weed but the other three a lot of people have. Brandi just wanted to be the center of attention and try to do what Brandi does best and put everyone on blast to make herself look good.
Kinda weird that Brandi yelled, “Yeah! We can all smoke pot” Honey you can smoke it in L.A. , too.
I couldnt believe Kim was not moved at alI by Lisa’s story of losing her sister to an overdose. I am disgusted by who Kim is, what a nasty piece of work. I knew when I saw Kims behaviour before in the limo, that her kids had suffered a living hell with a drunken monster . I no longer care what happens to that woman (Kim), and I cant wait till Brandi turns on her. Kyle should focus on her own family and stop beng tormented by her shrew of a sister. Just because youre related doesnt mean you have to put up with abuse.
My guess is that at the reunion Brandi turns on Kim. Probably talks about her kids and that is why the reunion is explosive.
because lisa rinna keeps throwing other people under the bus. first harry, then his brothers in law, and now her sister. if her sister were the issue she would have mentioned her first. total b.s. she was just so excited to run around to everyone talking about kim, she pretends concern to try to excuse her nosiness. not giving kim a pass either. disgusted by her behavior. clearly it does nothing to confront her. you just get lies/denials and fake outrage. that they’ve dragged this stupid storyline out so long is pathetic. just wanted to see a nice trip to amsterdam, not a lot of manufactured drama yet again.
Brandi already turned on Kim (when they 1st met) but seems like she conveniently forgot! Re Kim’s tirade to Lisa R. re ‘you’re hurting my kids’ – no one could have hurt them more than her BFF Brandi when she accused Kim of doing crystal meth in the bathroom!
BTW, who write’s Kim’s dialog in her mind? “Beast!” “Slut Pig!” Who calls people by those words? Was Kim in “Beast Master VI: The Rambling”, and I somehow missed it on IMDB?
I 100% agree with your comment.
Re the Kathy Hilton comment – Brandi’s the one who put that in Kim’s head. In an earlier episode (I believe it was while visiting Kim after her hospital stay & discussing poker night) – Brandi said to Kim “would Kathy ever treat you that way”? Par for the course, Brandi’s trying to turn Kim against Kyle. She wants Kim to hate Kyle as much as she does as Kyle has everything she wants (including a renewed friendship with Lisa V.).
And like you, I believe Kim’s 100% jealous of Eileen. Not only is Eileen still acting but she won a Daytime Emmy (after 8 nominations). Hate to say it but Kim’s a washed up has been who over the last 20+ years has been given a few bit parts & whose major accomplishment is a struggling storyline on RH’s.
Spot on about Kim being jealous of Eileen! Kim’s eyes shoot daggers every time she looks at her — all she can see is everything she isn’t. Stunning, classy, successfully employed, happily married and best of all, NOT an addict.
I adore Eileen. She’s like a breathe of fresh air (after smelling your neighbors septic tank overflow). 🙂
Kim is definitely washed and a has been. She sees Eileen and it pisses her off that’s not her, similar to how when Brandi is around Kyle it’s screams jealousy. I’m really loving what Eileen brings out of Kim even if she doesn’t know what shes doing herself.
Kim is probably jealous of women like Eileen ,because she has a better life, its as simple as that. Eileen is all sorts of things Kim can not be, so being a sociopathic type she harbors a ton of anger twords her Eileen is nice, normal, happily married, good mother and a working actress. Doesnt matter to Kim that Eileen is down to earth and not doing anything at all to justify the dislike. In Kims drug addeled mind Eileen is a beast!
Kyle should let Kathy Hilton have the job and the joy of tending to Kim. If Kathy is the good devoted sister, then why is Kyle the one all tied up in knots all the time over Kim? Let Kathy get a good dose of it, I bet shed slap the shit out of her. I think Kyle running away when the glass was thrown by Lisa, told me Kim has gone crazy numerous times and Kyle was prepared to flee for her safety.
As for Eileen, I’ll agree she’s not a drug addict. But she’s had her share of dealings with addiction.
Amen Addie!! You said it! Kim needs to return to Bitch Montain asap and take Brandi the glorified professional escort with her. They can drink and pop Xanax and snark themselves into oblivion.
Yes! The comment about Kathy from Brandi “would Kathy ever do that?” was ringing in my head, too, after this episode! Also, I’ve noticed Brandi has made several comments about how her and her sister don’t get along and “not all sisters have to be friends” or something to that affect. Seems to me, Brandi is jealous not just of her castmates, but also of the familial relationships/bonds that she’ll never have.
Not only is Brandi is jealous of her cast mates but anyone that has a somewhat healthy relationship & I also believe she’s jealous of her own kids. Why else after 8yrs is she continuing to trash the stepmother they love (& who loves them) — the woman that contributes to their support & is able to afford them all kinds of things that she can’t! Brandi’s just one huge glob of green goo (i.e. envy).
I respectfully disagree – pot is a drug. Alcohol is a drug. Xanax is a drug. Drug patches are a drug. I don’t care how you mince words; they are all drugs. Some people cannot moderate their intake of those drugs no matter how hard they try. It’s complete abstinence or it’s over the top. It’s not a moral failing, no matter how people try to make it into one.
If you’ve read House of Hilton, I’m sure you will agree: Kim was physically sitting at that table, but it was Big Kathy speaking to Kyle, and Kyle was 12 years old again.
I want to read that book. Theyve got an odd family dynamic going on. In my family when I feel im not being treated well I pull back and dont spend as much time with those family members. I couldnt make myself put up with someone like Kim. I wont cut a family member off but I sure dont go out of my way to spend time with people who treat me like shit, family or not.
I really hope that Kyle cuts Kim off after this season. Both on the show and privately. It isn’t healthy for her. I’m sure Mauricio is sick of hearing it by now.
Kyle cutting Kim out of her life would be the best thing for Kyle AND for Kim because it might spur Kim to get real help. If she did, Kyle can have her sister back; if she didn’t Kyle wouldn’t be putting up with all the bullshit.
Kyle should also, 100%, refuse to film with Kim going forward.
All easier said then done, mind you, but it really has to be done or nothing will change.
It’s sad how we can all get stuck in such unhealthy patterns in life.
I remember Kyle saying on a much-earlier episode that she had made a death-bed promise to her mother to take care of Kim. I would think that would be hard to renege on, no matter how much someone treats you like crap, although I agree that cutting Kim out of her life would be best for Kyle. Perhaps Kim’s children, now that some of them are adults, need to intervene. Her children seem to be her weak spot and if faced with an ultimatum from them, maybe she would get some real help.
Micheal, to “take care of Kim” she NEEDS to cut her off. What she is doing now is not working!
If Kingsley biting Kyle’s daughter, and Kim blaming the kid, isn’t the last straw to make Kyle walk, I don’t think Kyle ever will. I do know that dog biting incident put a huge rift between them and things aren’t good.
Run, Kyle! Run!
Good news is according to Kyle last night when she called into WWHL – prior to the recent reunion filming she hadn’t spoken to Kim in 4 months.
@Addie
i really don’t think this has anything to do with the book you keep bringing up (which is ready for me to pick up at the library, btw, lol). anyone who has sisters knows this kind of drama.
Read the book, then let me know if you feel the same. I have sisters and while we may argue, we’re never vicious like the Richards sisters. This goes way beyond your typical sister behavior. This is nasty, mean, cruel shit.
Are you people getting paid to pimp this motherfucking book out every other post? Because somebody needs to either drop some coin in my account or shut the fuck up about it.
DAYUM
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
My sisters and I were cruel to each other in our adolescent years but never in adulthood. And I have one sister who is in recovery.
When Kyle/Eileen/The Lisas were on the bus, Kyle commented and said if she doesn’t defend Kim she gets shit from the family. Lisa V even cosigned it and said Kyle been going through this for year with Kim. Im not remotely surprised. Kyle does act like the Hiltons PR spokesperson when one of those kids of Kathy’s or even Kim’s gets in trouble or controversy. But Kathy where the hell is she? Probably somewhere having Cristal and caviar!
I do believe there is some jealousy going on even in their adult years. If you compared Kyle’s life to Kim’s/Kathy’s she has the better end of the stick thusfar especially with her family. Kathy might have more money but that’s because she married into. Kyle actually makes her own money and her husband is doing well in real estate and her children are well behaved, Farrah is successful in real estate and Alexia is in school. Plus I look at the age gap between Kathy and Kyle – 10 years! Kathy is probably more of an authoritarian figure over Kim and Kyle, but it seems like Kyle doesn’t need Kathy as much like Kim does.
Haha. You can’t really believe that Kyle has a better life than Kathy!
You totally missed my point
Hey Kingsley/tp!! I didn’t know you could type!
I think there was a rift when Mauricio left the Hiltons’ real estate business and started his own. Kyle, for all of her piccadilloes, has really made a good life for herself. My guess is that Mauricio’s mom has played a huge part in that.
Sometimes it’s not good to maintain contact with a broken family. Kyle has to do what is best for her, her own children, and Mauricio. That is her family now as an adult.
I agree that compared to Kim & Kathy, Kyle appears to have a better life (aside from being abused by Kim). And re Tp’s reply to your comment — clearly he/she thinks money makes you happy (but I wouldn’t trade lives with Kathy Hilton for any of them for that matter).
Money just buys bigger problems & more expensive headaches. I’d much rather marry a poor man that I love, that a rich man, I loathe!
I would never trade places with Kathy or Kim. I would like to be Kyle for a summer and then go back to being me.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Haha! I’ll co-sign that Tamara!
I just read where Cannabis Oil helped people with Chronic Lyme Disease. Maybe Yo could try a natural herb instead of those vitamin pills she was swallowing…..i personally prefer cannabis oil over Zoloft, Valium, Alcohol and nicotine. Now thats a high in any combination. Kims in da nile.
ZenJen does the cannabis oil have THC in it or no? I am in a Hep C support group and lots of the folks there say they use it to help with the pain of inflamed joints, muscle aches. It’s supposed to be an anti-inflammatory that won’t hurt your liver. I just finished 3 months of treatment with Harvoni and am undetected for the virus. But I live with joint pain every day. All I can have is Ibuprofen. Where do you buy your oil?
Did anyone else find Yolanda starting the something to share discussion to be random and through in Bella’s DUI for good measure! No doubt in my mind the producers must worked Yolanda to stir things up at the dinner table.
I assumed that before Yolanda spoke, the producers told the ladies they wantef a heartfelt discussion. So Yolanda was to talk about her daughter and then Lisa Vanderpump was meant to talk about Max being adopted (two of their storylines this season). Instead, Lisa R got emotionally and spoke up about her history ‘out of turn’ and Kim got pissed when she was brought into the ‘overdose’ story. It was kind of funny to watch unfold.
I bet the producers were both very happy and annoyed. Clearly the dinner was meant to at least start off as a positive bonding experience. The ladies hadn’t even got their meals yet (Evidenced by poor Kyle stuffing her face with food in her hotel room later on lol).
Yolanda is a “fixer”–of relationships and of people. It is in her to try to repair broken relationships and people. This is the Yolanda I like (although a fixer has to know when to quit).
She was trying to bring to the surface all of the innuendos and bad crap flying around. When that stuff builds up, it can explode. The best way to diffuse and explosion is just to talk about the small stuff.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t work with sociopaths. What Yolanda doesn’t realize is that Brandi can be “saved” by admitting a problem and going through therapy, but Kim cannot. Has anyone ever seen Kim cry real tears? Watch her when she cries (which is constantly). Not ONCE has there been an actual tear that needs to be wiped away. Kim will wipe her eyes, but there has never been a tear there to wipe (unless it is about herself or her own imagined hardships).
Agreed. Sociopaths don’t get better with treatment–they just become better sociopaths.
Are you new? Of course Lisa was told to bring that up. As was Yo, there was no other reason to start a dinner talking about DUIs and overdoses unless it was producer driven.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Yeah, the Bella DUI thing was totally scripted and Lisa was told to bring up her dead sister as part of the script.
Demented and sad, but true.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Ummm I haven’t seen the episode yet, and it sounds like kim was out of control, but it seems like not ok for Lisa to lunge at her physically? Maybe I need to see it, but regardless of how much I like someone and dislike another I am opposed to physical violence.
Rinna hasn’t shown a pattern of this behavior so I’m willing to give her a pass. Really ticked me off tho when Andy compared BG throwing wine @ Eileen with Rinna losing her ish.
Brandi wasn’t provoked when she threw the wine at Eileen. Poor Lisa R. has been really put through the mill with Kim. Kim is not acting like a person who is happy or at peace with her sobriety. Shes acting secretive, belligerent and angry like a person who is leading a false fake life of lies and desperation. Shes showing how hateful and dysfunctional she is.
Agreed! Kim has been looking sideways @ Eileen + Rinna all season. This is BG’s handiwork for sure. It’s that, or BG told Kim she needs a storyline and bringing the drama would do it. She never tries to talk Kim off the ledge when she goes ham….and always says ‘at least it’s not me’ in her talking head.
I think there is a breaking point to how much people can take and then they snap. Lisa admits she lost it. You can see Kim knows how to be cruel and hit below the belt and relishes doing so. Im very anti violent and anti agression but even I have almost reached the boiling over point of no return by some nasty people. I never really understood losing it until I almost lost it. Thank god I didnt and got even by telling the truth instead of doing sonething illegal. I felt for Lisa. She should avoid being around Kim ir Brandi in the future. Theyre just toxic losers lashing out at everyone because theyre miserable people.
Agreed.
No reason for physical action unless it’s to save your life (or someone elses) in my book. But look at how the two people handled it o’ so differently:
Brandi after tossing the wine: “it’s funny, I wanted a reaction, she wouldn’t give me what I wanted, what’s the problem?”
Lisa R after throwing the glass: “I lost it, I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have, I lost my shit, never done that,..”
One of these women gets it, the other one doesn’t.
Well it’s good she apologized. I don’t think I can support the action but we are human and if she took responsibility then she’s fine in my book.
Thats true and there is the difference between decency and low lifes. The low life will never really accept fault or apolgize and mean it. Theyre animalistic and just react with anger against anger even if deserved. You’ll only end up sinking to their level if you continue to associate with.
Kim and Brandi must see the writing on the wall…..Eileen and Lisa Rinna are their replacements. Fingers crossed for both the lowers to go…..
That damn andy calling out Lisa R. I guess if Kim had been wielding a prop, she would have had a pass to drag Kim to the floor by her hair.
Lisa R lost her shit. No excusing it but there really is no excuse for Kim’s behavior either. It’s a wash, IMO.
I’m probably in the minority on that but I don’t give a shit — I’m in the minority thinking the Kyle/Brandi tussle during Poker Night was a wash too (i.e. they both behaved badly in ways that was uncalled for).
Sorry, but BG was in the wrong on Poker Night. She had no right being a barrier between sisters. If Kim wants nothing to do with Kyle then she should not have been @ the event. And since when is it ok for a grown woman to shove another?
Like I said. I’m in the minority . You can parse and rationalize all you want to make one grown woman with kids “not at fault” for engaging in a tussle with another grown woman all you want. I don’t give a shit.
Kinda seems like u do.
Ok if you say so.
angienc, I agree with you. Women behaving badly!
Hi Everyone –
I don’t know if Kim knows something about Lisa’s family or not but the fact that Lisa V kept saying it’s gone too far and how emotional ( sad not angry) everyone was after made me think there might be some truth to it.
Also – Kim’s so called apology did not seem like one. I felt like she was very smug and kind of smiling, no shame whatsoever. In fact, I felt like she was following up on her threat.
“Like look you see why people do my things way now? because I’m crazy and will ruin your life and relationships. Understood? Now I am going to spew out this BS about not wanting to hurt my kids, for the sake of the camera and you will sit and listen”
If she had true remorse she should have apologized to everyone. And next week Lisa R basically tells Eileen she does not want to get into it with Kim on anyones behalf. It just seems like there may really be an HH secret.
oops I meant to say “do things my way”
Lisa R. hasn’t done anything to Kim’s kids that holds a candle to Kim’s horrifying behavior in the limousine, seen on national tv. What really pisses me off is that Kim brushed it off as an “oopsie … took a teeny pain pill” moment — the ONLY time in 3 years of sobriety. Does anyone believe that for a moment? As Lisa R said — “Own your shit!”
And no one holds a candle to harming Kim’s kids than her own BFF when she accused Kim of doing crystal meth in the bathroom!
I’ve never been a Kim fan but I really dislike her now. Kim was so vicious and ugly, she wanted to hurt and maim. Kim was the spoiled, entitled child everyone coddles and panders to who was finally told told no and she had no idea how to react properly. Seeing Kyle run away like she did actually kinda broke my heart. I cannot imagine what her life has been like with Kim all these years. I love seeing Eileen and Lisa R tell Kim the truth.
I’m not sure why Brandi said that about Kyle getting high with her. If Kyle does in fact smoke, that’s her business. Kyle isn’t the one constantly getting wasted publicly with her
tampon string flapping like a windsock. Brandi loves behaving badly and getting attention for it.
I really loved Lisa V this episode. I thought it was adorable when Yolondas brother picked Lisa V up and carried her into the restaurant.
I loved how supportive of Kyle, Lisa Vanderpump was. After last season, she could have laughed at Kyle’s misfortune concerning Kim, and how Brandi betrayed her secret joint smoking ways. Instead she took the high road (see what I did there?) and was nothing but supportive and empathetic towards Kyle.
Such a classy broad.
I think the reason that LV was willing to give the friendship between her and Kyle another go was because she genuinely cares for her, actually I think they care for each other. LV is seeing that some of the attacks on Kyle this season were delivered by Brandi, weather it be directly or through Kim. I hope they continue to support each other (I agree LV is taking the lead on that) and come to a good place long term.They were fun/funny together. I also think Brandi cannot stand this, she is butt heart that Lisa doesn’t like her anymore.
To add to your comment re “Lisa V was willing to give the friendship between her and Kyle another go because she genuinely cares for her” — I believe what’s even more critical (& adds to the “genuine care” & love) is they have a long standing friendship where they naturally shared & know things about each other that they don’t want put out there in the open. When their friendship ended neither one of them tried to deliberately hurt the other by disclosing private info – proving to one another they both share the same moral compass.
We all have our boundaries / how far we’ll go & throughout my life when someone entrusts me with personal, private info, I do the same. Hell, to this day I’ve never disclosed extremely sensitive private matters my ex-husband told me 20+ while we were married (& I hated him while we were going through the divorce) & though he lashed out at me with vicious, ugliness – I could never retaliate as I have no desire to hurt anyone that badly (I wouldn’t even share that info with my current husband). But then on the other hand you’ve got people like Brandi (& Kim) who can NEVER be trusted as they’ll always go for the jugular. I find the desire to absolutely annihilate another human being you once called “friend” (or lover) revolting. To me, that’s the ultimate betrayal & reason to forever keep that person at least at arm’s length & though I may be civil, I would never be friends with them again.
@Lawstangel – Brandi hates that LVP and Kyle are friends. But thats her own damn fault and wrong doing of her taking her hate for LVP and Schena Marie’s “friendship” way too far. She crossed the line big time to expose LVP’S business ventures and expose them. Kyle said on access hollywood there is a code that shouldn’t be broken and one of them was attacking the wives livelihoods. Brandi and even Danielle Staub (did it to Teresa Guidice in S2 how she got her mega mansion and it being in foreclosure on NJ). Brandi will never be anything to LVP again once she did that to her. And I can’t blame her.
I don’t see how Kim can go back to pretending to be the goofy, awkward and slightly off has-been she’s been playing on the show until now. We started to get glimpses of the real Kim last season, when she went after LVP and Ken. Now we know what she’s capable of. She’s no longer convincing as the “I LOVE TURTLES!” Kim.
You actually make a good point. Kim can no longer be the happy go lucky turtle lover she once was. She showed her true colors and viewers will not forget. Kim really fucked up this time and although she has only herself to blame, Brandi sure didn’t help matters.
Kim’s sympathy and/or whatever likeability she has was ruined after Tuesday’s episode. Thats the nasty, rude, disrespectful and confrontational Kim no one wants to be around or talk to about her drug addiction. I think it goes beyond the drugs I think thats the real her.
“…..tampon string flapping like a windsock.” OMG! very funny!
Tampon hanging like a wind sock. Thats hysterical! Yeah Kyle running away like that, told me shes been through many a hellish time with her dear old sister. I saw two teenage boys sprint away like that when their mom started acting agressive twords me in a restaurant several years ago. When you see that you know that they’ve seen and experienced this before, and theyre scared shitless. Fortunatly I wasnt harmed, as her two cousins (who I had just met), flanked me on each side and wouldnt let her harm me. It happened so fast I didnt have time to absorb what the hell was happening, but they sure did. Then I burst into tears. That scene remember need me of that night and it gave me the creeps. Kim seems evil besides the other stuff.
Kim hasn’t done herself any favors here. She clearly doesn’t know how to interact with compassion, she did the same dismissive crap with Eileen when she confessed to having lost 2 sisters. It’s like Kim’s “persecution radar” is up and she thinks everything is about her and if it doesn’t come packaged as a butt kiss, then she thinks she’s being attacked. Man, Kim learned at a young age that it’s acceptable to scare people into submitting by all means necessary. Poor Kyle.
That’s another wonderful addict trait Kim has everything and I mean everything is about her. I have never believed she got clean, maybe stopped drinking in public but she never stopped the pills or anything else she wasn’t called out for, I can’t stand her. She thinks she is smarter than everyone else. She completely ruins the show for me. I don’t want to watch a junkie abusing everyone who tries to help her. If bravo wants to support a junkie, I have to stop supporting Bravo. It would be one thing if she was honest, nice, and trying to change but she is not any of those things.
But that’s the sticky wicket – if she was in a program, she would have recognized that Kyle’s reaction to her (when they were on the plane) was most likely because of years of being exposed to Kim’s addiction and behavior. Instead of mocking Kyle, she could have shown some self-awareness.
HOWEVER, I think Lisa V would be a HOOT to eat space cake with and it was awesome to see her compassion for Kyle and her silliness on the outings! I have a weird little soft spot for Yolanda’s brother, since when he cut loose and dove into her pool. And then when he just up and carried Lisa V into the pub. And we know that couldn’t have been easy … 😉
Yolanda’s bro and her high school sweetheart–makes me think that Holland men are adorable!
I know, really!!
Kim’s argument that she is working any sort of program would seem to be null & void after the ugliness she displayed at the dinner table. The way her face twisted was just so dark and cruel that I seriously felt like I needed a shower during the commercial break. And the worst part was that you could see Kim was taking pleasure in the awful things she was saying to Lisa R. It was a twisted Mommy Dearest moment and absolutely brutal. Also, I would like to say that as much as I love Lisa R, Eileen continues to be the best thing about this entire franchise. The way she calmly and eloquently jumped in to defend Lisa….now that’s a woman I want on my side. She seriously had her back and it was the only good thing about that fight.
There have been so many terrible fights in the RH franchise but few have left a bad taste in my mouth the way this one did. This was truly one of the ugliest moments I have EVER seen on reality tv. It’s right up there with the RHNYC Scary Island debacle involving Bethenny and Kelly from many many years ago. The wounds inflicted might have been producer driven but they cut deep and there’s no way Lisa R and Kim will ever be okay again. Nor should they be…
I’ve not been a fan of Kyle in the past but this season has really given me new empathy for her situation with her sister. Kim is toxic, she is poisonous and she will NEVER be healthy for Kyle. The bonds of family run deep but I hope Kyle will gain a detached perspective about their relationship through watching this season on television. Wow.
Kim admitted at the reading that she is no longer in any formal program. She said she has her support system, but Brandi, Kingsly, part-time Monty, and Kathy Hilton (when she’s not picking up her son from the nuthouse) don’t make the best supports when they all are active drinkers and users.
Despite Kim’s despicable behavior, I still find her situation to be so sad. Kim was a good actress, but she is being very real. This is what an addict looks like, kids!
I get a real good energy and vibe from Eileen. I really admire her and think she is a class act.
Great recap, TT, thanks! Holland was gorgeous. I want to go! The bike ride looked so fun. Yolanda has an adorable family.
Brandi is an idiot. It’s official. We should give her some certificate. Maybe “Idiot of the year”. She doesn’t see the difference between the real life and the reality show life. She brings all these things that she and the other women have done off camera months, years ago. It is confusing. Kim has some serious mental issues. It’s not just alcohol and drugs. She is Russell Armstrong 2.0. Tik tok. When Brandi said that these women don’t know how to drop something when you ask them to drop it I could not stop rolling my eyes. She was the one who was dragging surrogacy story or tabloid story through the whole season of the show. Who is the biggest hypocrite here?! Bi#ch please!
I love that Brandi believes shes off the hook! She said so in her confessionals. LMFAO. Brandi started the whole chain of events between Kim v Lisa R. No way Lisa lets her ass off the hook.
And I agree that Kim is slowly entering Russell Armstrong territory. That’s why she needs to not come back at after this season. But notice Bravo they might want the blood.
Brandi wasn’t bent when she went off . Too much hand movement . Usually eating leads to a body stone. Actually, no one was bent. Wtf with Lisa R. She looking for s new soapie gig.
What does this mean?
Just watched the episode. I can’t imagine this show without Lisa R and Eileen now. They alongside Kyle, really made this season interesting.
The preview of Brandi slapping Lisa looks pretty fucked up. Especially as they appear to be on better terms this season. Fucks everyone over. The chip on her shoulder is very obvious.
I am so sick of Kim Richards. She is bitter, angry drunk who looks 10 years older than she is. I am sick of her displaced anger against Kyle, and anyone else in her wake.
The HYPOCRISY of her worrying about what her ADULT children think of her sobriety, and YET she has NO PROBLEM vilifying Harry Hamlin ON NATIONAL TV who has 2 minor children.
I just can’t watch the train wreck that is Kim Richards any longer….
I believe in Karma. Which is why Kyle looks AmAZING this season and Kim looks like the older sister by at least a decade or two.
I totally believe in karma. When I see people being mean ,I say to myself”You may think youre winning but youre not”!
Great point. Kyle does look amazing this season & Kim not only looks like shit but her true colors are coming out. The bitter vileness within her is shown all over her face.
Spot on Michael. I think another thing is we the viewers are now awoke to Kim’s 5 yr charade! Shes never been sober nor committed to be sober. She can lie about being 3yrs sober all she wants but the viewers are no longer oblivious and her attitude is the pits of hell. Lisa R might be the break out star of RHOBH this season but this has been total vindication for Kyle.
Did they get a buzz from the space cakes or not?;) Where are those bloopers? I’ll pay real moola to see that
I do agree with Andy that there is a bit of a double standard.. Phaedra stood up and seeing her pocketbook but stopped herself before she made contact, and she was called “ghetto, ratchet, etc” all over this board. Lisa Rinna, also facing rumors at a dinner table, tries to choke Kim, tosses water, and throws a glass. Not once was she called ghetto or ratchet for her behavior. Not once was her reaction to the allegations indicative of a character flaw or poor upbringing.
Now whether this double standard is based on class or race, who knows, but there is definitely a double standard in place where the same behavior has different implications depending on the zip code. These parallel incidents happening days apart really does illustrate that fact, doesn’t it? Go read all the classist names Phaedra was called for attempting to swing her pocketbook…now imagine what she would’ve been called had she reached for Kenya’s throat and smashed a glass on the ground!
There’s no double standard. Phaedra is ghetto. Lisa Rinna did something out of character.
Thanks for proving my point. When a black woman does it, she’s “ghetto”, when a rich white woman does it, “it’s out of character.”
Double standard.
No. Phaedra has done things like this before. You’re just looking for a double standard.
Phaedra has tried to attack someone? When? Never. It was completely out of character which is why so many were surprised. Not to say that the Lisa’s behavior wasn’t out of character also, but it is very telling that one is called “ratchet” for the same behavior the other one displayed. You don’t have to convince me… just read the last RHOA recap and see how Phaedra’s reaction was regarded vs the way Lisa’s is regarded here. You can’t protest as much as you like, but the proof is in the pudding.
So…I guess you didn’t hear Ph keep threatening to kick Kenya’s ass?
âPhaedra is the definition of ratchet. Lisa Rinna is the opposite of that.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
No…but she has said many many times in her talking heads that she would choke or slap someone directed at Kenya. And she kept saying she’d beat/kick her arse. Funny how she feels free to raise her hand after the hair pulling assault. What makes her ratchet is the phony Southern Belle/Christian character she played..only to turn on a dime and threaten to beat someone up. Once you’re college + law school educated shouldn’t you be better than that?
I don’t watch RHOA and have never called anyone on there “ghetto” or “ratchet”. I also can’t condemn Rinna because there is a difference between character and action. One action or mistake does not define a person. What defines a person is how they handle themselves in everyday life and how they deal with their mistakes.
Rinna immediately owned up to her mistake and made amends to Kim. There is no lingering hostility that I sense (merely a wise decision to put up boundaries) and no sense that it will happen again.
One action does not define a person, multiple actions do. This is why I think Brandi is a class A asshole for throwing wine (it is something totally in character for her), but Rinna is not an asshole for becoming fed up and smashing a wine glass (a much worse action, but not a character trait).
I can’t answer to anything about Phaedra, but as far as Rinna goes, she doesn’t get a pass because of her color. She gets a pass because of her character.
To be fair, I am a black woman and I found Phaedra to be ghetto way before this week’s episode. Lunging at Kenya just confirmed what I already thought. Lisa Rinna, however, mostly seems like an upbeat and sweet person. So I think she was acting out of character. I concede that ghetto is a word mostly used for black women, so instead I will just call Phaedra a hypocritical, conniving black hearted harpy 🙂
Was Phaedra apologetic and remorseful? Did Phaedra repeatedly own how wrong her reaction was and show genuine regret for behaving that way?
Ps: Brandi is completely ghetto. And white.
Then it’s classist. Either way, a double standard is in place.
You have the most warped way of looking at life. It’s like everyone should get the same amount of everything regardless of merit, or character or intellect or behavior, or personal choice.
You have the most bizarre arguments for pretty much any situation. I’m waiting for you to say that Phaedra deserves reparations for not being on Beverly Hills.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Nothing is warped about my thinking. The spirituals were exactly the same, yet the reactions were drastically different, as Phaedra’s reaction was a result of her class, upbringing, social status, whereas Rinna’s was a result of Kim. I’m going by posts on YOUR blog. Read the comments on both posts by the same commenters. They are drastically different depending on the women, and the amount of “code speak” is alarming. I’m not offended because this is indicative of society, at large, but I find it amusing when people knee jerk react all butthurt because I pointed it out. It’s an observation, if it’s doesn’t apply, let it fly.
You continue to make the same ill founded, race baiting comments over and over. I’m running out of patience.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
I said, “class, upbringing, social status”..I wasn’t talking about race.
Oh for God’s sake stop bringing up race. None of this is real and all of them are acting. Andy is an idiot who loves drama and encourages the “Acting out”. What in the hell does Phaedra have to do with Lisa R. or anyone on the BH show? Two different animals……I am tried of the race card and the comparisons. People are people no matter what their color. They either act with class or they don’t. If you can’t see past color and have to make constant comparisons than YOU are the racist.
I’ll co-sign that!
“Two different animals”… exactly my point.
Sarcasatire – ok, I’ll bite.
I’m the first to jump up and scream double standard. But those “words” are in the lexicon of the RHoA and they use them against each other all the time. Granted, it’s a societal problem. And, risking getting slammed for this observation, there is a slightly different crowd of people commenting on RHoA than on RHoBH. I’ve seen “ratchet” used on BH’s column occasionally but no one responds to it … well except jtspills.
Facts are facts boo. Whether I favor one HW over the other doesn’t change what is true.
It seems like Kenya is always on some people’s minds even when discussing a completely show.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
First of all, Lisa R says she’s white trash. Pheadra is the one pretending to be a Southern Belle while married to an ex-con turned back to con whom she snagged with 3 am booty calls to lay on an air mattress in a half-way house to have a shotgun wedding.
Nonetheless, I don’t give Lisa R a pass or try to excuse her behavior — she lost her shit. But she ran out crying after; admits she lost her shit and is remorseful; isn’t claiming Kim “deserved it” and will “kick her ass if she opens her mouth again.”
Phaedra, otoh, is defiant; walked out threatening Kenya; has not apologized; is not remorseful; and claims Kenya deserved it.
And while I personally don’t think anything another person SAYS warrants getting physical, Kenya was talking about *Phaedra* and Kim was talking about *Harry* — so in Lisa’s case she could claim the old “say what you want about me, but don’t attack my family.” Phaedra doesn’t even have that excuse — but then again the only person Phaedra has ever carried about is herself. She can call everyone else on earth every bad name in the book, but if you say word one about her, you *deserve* to get your ass beat.
Well, you wouldn’t exactly say that if you saw the tweets that Lisa Rinna deleted from Twitter after the show aired. She endorsed tweets calling for someone to take a tire iron to Kim’s face. So I’d take Lisa Rinna’s “remorse” with a grain of salt.
Don’t presume to talk for me.
whoa Pura – seriously? That’s terrible. I don’t follow the tweets so that is a curious and harsh insight.
Sarcasatire, I do believe you are correct.
Thanks, Sandra.
I do too, and so would most of my sociology professors.
Really? Must be an HBC….
Because assuming and speaking on behalf of your “sociology professors” who have no concept or knowledge of these events whatsoever is a normal thing to do.
Haha! Bloop!
You’re acting like Phaedra was e-drug through the streets. That never really happened. I’m sure there were some comments here and there, just like there are some here about Lisa, but that doesn’t reflect the wide scale that you’re insinuating. There wasn’t some campaign to label her as ratchet just because one or two people said it.
The context of the situations are completely different. If you’re new to the site, and prone to card pulling, I guess I could see how you would interpret it like racism. But that’s not reality.
As a collective group, most people here like Lisa R: she has the first season glow, is funny, and seems like a decent person.
As a collective group, Phaedra is amongst the top housewives disliked. We all know the extensive dirty details of her criminal past. We know all the lies and all about the faux Christian persona.
So first off, you’re dealing with two completely separate character identities which have NOTHING to do with race. Secondly, the frustration with Phaedra comes from the hypocrisy of the situation. She called Kenya a whore for years – who never resorted to physical violence – yet the FIRST time the tables turn Phaedra does what Kenya has not for days and months and years. ***there is no sympathy in this situation****
Lisa R was verbally assaulted and threatened with rumors about her husband from a deranged addict who she was TRYING TO HELP. She was in tears over the death of her sister, and Kim was vicious and completely lacking compassion. ***there is sympathy in this situation****
I can’t believe I wasted my time typing that. But I did. So hopefully it will help you understand and not victimize.
Well said.
FYI- You can dislike someone without making a coded reference to their race or social status. *shrugs*
And, trust, I’m not a victim. I can care less what you guys call Phaedra, but denying the difference in “code speak” when it’s obvious to anyone who reads both recaps/comments is futile. But keep at it…
You wasted your time typing that re: sarcasastire
But very well said, IMO.
[golf clap]
Wait. I’m still allowed to call Brandi ghetto, right?
Trying to get inline on my PC behavior.
The only thing I would concede to you, sarcasatire, is that people do use different words to address black and white women using the same behavior, for example Tamra Barney gets called “trailer trash” while ‘Phaedra gets called “ghetto”, but both are equally bad. The words people choose may be somewhat influenced by race (I personally have never heard a black person referred to as “trailer trash) but the behavior itself is judged equally. For that matter, I think you would have a better point if you addressed the double standard of Brandi throwing the wine glass and getting derided, while Lisa Rinna is given a pass. And I say that as one of the people who thinks Brandi came across as psychotic while I have sympathy for Lisa Rinna. *shrugs*If there is any double standard, it is not so much as race(in this particular instance) as it is people have sympathy for people they like and aren’t inclined to give people they don’t like a break on similar behavior. End of story.
As a woman of color and mixed race, I am soooooo sick of the hypersensitivity. White folks can be trailer park, white trash, crackers, rednecks. Black folks can be hood, hoodrats, ghetto, gutter, ratchet and anything else you can think of. We all know it exists, we all know what it looks like. If you want to spend your life looking for a conspiracy in every word or action, be my guest…but please stop inflicting your misery on the rest of us!
@JC, it seems we agree, but you said it much better than I have. Pointing out the double standard between Brandi and Lisa R. throwing glasses is exactly my point. That’s why I said it is probably classism, not racism. Brandi is considered “low class”, with less money and less status. And the comments about her aren’t just about her bad behavior, they attribute her behavior to her low ranking social status. But when wealthy women behave badly, it’s hardly ever a result of them being a “product of their environment.”
So, we agree that double standards exist, often based on class (but with racial codespeak) and I appreciate you also acknowledging the double standard with Lisa. Andy and I aren’t the only ones who noticed! Sorry for pointing it out, but this week had such parallels in behavior, that the discrepancies jumped out a bit more than usual. Anyway, no harm, no foul. Peace.
@ Tanya, I think you missed the point of my post. I was saying race isn’t a factor (except in the words chosen) but popularity of Lisa Rinna vs Phaedra or Lisa Rinna vs, Brandi accounted for the discrepancy
No, I got it. I was making a general statement 🙂
Umm Brandi tossed wine in the face of a woman who she had just met and who did absolutely nothing to her. Point blank in the face for no reason. In fact, Brandi was a FAN of hers — so really it would be like someone randomly throwing wine in the face of like Angela Jolie for no reason.
How is that anything like a fight between two people?
I understand your point JC but I dont consider Brandi throwing wine in Eileen’s face without any reason whatsoever and laughing about it the same thing as what occurred when Lisa threw the wine glass. Both wrong but Lisa was provoked and after the yelling, nastiness and threats about her husband, I can understand and sympathize with why she lost it. I cant sympathize or understand someone throwing wine in someone’s face for no reason whatsoever.
Similar acts but you have to look at circumstances. You can steal a loaf of bread or 100k. Both theft. Both wrong but I wouldnt judge them equally. JMHO.
Brandi and Rinna grew up under very similar financial circumstances.
I’d think that Brandi has made more money than Rinna in the past couple of years. The only difference is that Brandi blows through money instead of investing for her children.
If you are trying to use “classism” as an excuse, it is invalid. Brandi’s situation is not a result of the money she has earned (quite a bit from two best sellers and having been on RHoBH before Rinna), but as a result of what she has done with it once she’s received it.
Are we going to try screaming sexism next?
Perhaps it is simply that Brandi is an asshole and Rinna is not. People can relate to Rinna because we’ve all been there. Nobody has defended her indefensible action (including Rinna herself), but we all (most) totally understood where she was coming from.
Sigh. Gilette’s random thinking out loud moments are simply that and not based in any fact.
Facts remain, HWs are contractually inhibited from suing each other. Lisa Rinna is a working actress who is well paid and not the least on par with Brandi whose talent is exposing her twat.
Please ignore anything that Gilette says that has anything to do with contract and pay scales and things she has no knowledge of.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
@TT~ I wondered about Gilette’s post too. Lisa Rinna has been a consistently working actor for over twenty years. Not to mention her husband’s very long and consistent career as well. If not for a cheating husband, no one would know of Brandi. On a tally sheet of career and money….Lisa R. clearly outshines Brandi. Brandi likes to throw shade on the ages of her cast mates. There is about a 9 year difference between her and Lisa R. I have to wonder if when Brandi reaches her early fifties, if she will be able to say that she has half of the same level of success….my guess is, no.
Yes, Gilette is another that NEEDS TO READ THE FUCKING COMMENTING RULES!
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Gilette, if your goal is to purposely misinterpret what I said, then you’ve succeeded.
The only thing you left out: Gigi looks so much like Yo’s mom!
Kim and Brandi are train wrecks and I no longer feel sorry for them and am enjoying watching them act so foolish. They both have no one but themselves to blame for the damage they have caused, are causing and will cause with their children. I hope the consequences are worth it.
What a messy episode. I hope Lisa and Eileen are both done trying to help Kim, Kyle as well. Brandi is a miserable human being and wants everyone around her to be equally miserable. Neither Brandi nor Kim have one redeeming quality between them. And Andy should be dropped on a deserted island with them both after his comments on WWHL last night.
I didn’t watch WWHL. What did Andy say?
I am a recovering alcoholic. Since I no longer drink (or do any drugs) the focus of my daily program is emotional sobriety. I don’t have to drink to fall back on my bad habits of distrust/dishonesty, accusations, blame, denial, resentments, grudges, etc, etc. Simply not partaking in ETOH/drugs is not enough. Kim is using other (habit forming) drugs recreationally for the high. I don’t know if she is drinking or not. But she is definitely not emotionally sober. She needs help. PS: It aint Kyle’s job. It’s Kim’s.
Well said! Stay strong.
Congrats to you for taking on a tough issue in this life. Sounds like you met it head on and have been playing the cards you’ve been dealt with a lot of strength and aplomb.
I love people like you.
Keep on keeping on.
aw shucks
Ive noticed that alcoholics are very good at grudges and being stuck in the past and also being emotionally weak. Kim is really displaying these traits on steroids. That combined with her behaviour on poker night screams relapse or never was really sober. That along with Kyle’s desperate scared oh shit its happening again reaction seals it. Also Brandi alluded to its way worse than you even know comment to Lisa R. confirmed it. Kim isnt fooling anyone hardly I wouldnt imagine. If her kids watched the ladies mo ride show her kids had to have recognized the mom they’ve known all too wellm
My Mom was sober the last 10 yrs of her life. Her first year of sobriety, she did 2 meetings a day for a solid year. There were no days off. We planned the holiday meals etc around her meeting time. She worked her butt off for her one year chip. I am/was the most proud daughter ever. I lost my brother to addiction. He didn’t o’d… he took his own life to prevent my precious nephew from growing up with an addict for a father. Kim is an addict as well as an alcoholic. She is a master of deflection and if that doesn’t work she plays the “I don’t know what’s going on, what is happening, why is this happening,” helpless victim. Her ruse of her being clean and sober is a slap in the face to those who really are in recovery. Congrats to you for your success in your sobriety. If I were to be in your real life presence, I seriously would give you a standing ovation. I’m truly sorry there are Kims out in the real world that, if let, can take away the real clean and sober definition. Applauding and praying for your continued success
You have such a great outlook–“emotional sobriety”. I’ll echo what gillette said, I love people like you. Going to share your words with a dear friend.
Congratulations on your sobriety, khintx! It’s hard work and a life long commitment. God bless and stay strong!
sorry previous comment was incomplete…Loved your recap TT , I was on the edge of my seat troughout Kim’s behaviour reminded me of another great TT… ……Tanika Tikaram’s “Twist in my sobriety” ….”Look my eyes are just holograms” among the little jewels in that song
On a lighter note, I loved the cape coat Kyle wore at the dinner………… very dramatic!
Not a fan of the cape coat — I’m not a fan of clothes that can’t make up their minds what they are (like skorts for example). 😉
I’m not a fan of Kim but I do feel that Lisa Rinna was very aggressive in talking about Kim’s sobriety or lack thereof. If someone I barely knew came at me more than once about my personal life, I would probably go at them too. Kim did tell Lisa on the plane to back off and I think Lisa bringing it up AGAIN at dinner was not only rude but asking for trouble. She’s merely an acquaintance of Kim at this point. I get that Lisa was coming from a good place but it really wasn’t appropriate to talk to everyone about it and then bring it up again when Kim asked her not too. I do not like what Kim said and I do not defend her craziness whatsoever but Lisa shouldn’t have butt in on the level that she did. I don’t believe for a second that Kim was sober that night with Lisa in the Limo and I do think she needs help. I love Lisa Rinna and think she’s an amazing addition to the cast but breaking a glass is a little too much for me too. Lisa needs to not get caught up in the drama of the sisters Richards……..she’s interesting and likeable all on her own. Lisa is a bit of a gangster which I kind of like…….maybe just not in THAT setting.
No. When Rinna was on WWHL she said she has known the Richards and others on the show for years. Rinna was right to call her out. Kim’s outbursts mean there is a problem and the fact that she comes back season after season is only supporting her delusion that she is sober. Did you notice how much she stepped up her wardrobe this season?
At the dinner with Eileen everyone was having a nice time laughing and out of nowhere with NO provocation Brandi throws a wine glass in Eileen’s face. Why??
Kim yelling at Lisa to stay out of her business, dismissing Lisa sister’s death, telling her to eat a piece of bread implying that she has an eating disorder, saying lets talk about what goes on in your house and Lisa loses it. Lisa and Brandi were both wrong but how do you equate the two incidents like Brandi is trying to do?? You cant…
Tt seems clear that there has been much talk about Harry in the group…Yo used the same “he’s only been sober” a few years wording that Kyle first used.
If Brandy was such a good friend to Kim, she would have stayed behind with her. But no, the camera’s were rolling.
Kim only used the “you went after my children” mantra after Yo said that was what she did to Lisa R.
Well according to Kims logic they shouldnt have anyone on the show who’s a parent as you cant hold anyone accountable or try to help anyone, as to not invoke the youre harming my kids mantra. Too late for that Kim. Youre not acting like a healthy stable woman who is sober and im pretty sure thats whats harming them.
Looks like Kyle finally got it. Andy said on WWHL last night that when they taped the reunion it was the first time Kyle had seen or talked to Kim in 4 months.
I caught that too. Hopefully Kyle stays far away & doesn’t renew her relationship until Kim gets her shit together (if she ever does). I know her mother’s dying wish was to keep an eye out for her sister but as someone here mentioned earlier — what she’s been doing was certainly not working. When someone’s as toxic as Kim – for your own sanity it’s best to keep a healthy distance. I can’t imagine the mother would expect Kyle to continue being abused by Kim & risk her own marriage & family.
Agreed! Kyle needs to finally do what’s in the best interest for her. In desperate times like this I dont mind her being selfish and distancing herself from her crazy drugged out unloving sister. Shes been at this all her life. It’s time for her now. Give Kim to Kathy and let her deal with it for once!
Every time Kim points her Arsenio Hall index finger at someone else she has three fingers pointing back at herself.
Such double standards, such deflection. Doesn’t Kim remember telling Taylor she drinks too much a few seasons back?
Yeah, and she told her to go blow up her lips some more…which was kinda funny at the time, but now, not so much 🙂
Yea the irony.
What happened to the nice Kim that used to spontaneously pray near trash cans?
Bad acting…
We have four actresses and one wannabe (Brandi) on this show. Lisa V. and Yolanda go along for the ride. I did not believe one thing that happened on that show. It was the fakest mess I’ve ever seen on any HW show. I have no idea if Kim was really stoned or simply acting and Kyle proved once again that she is a terrible actress with her histrionics and it’s “all about me” performance. Eileen and Lisa R. proved that their acting ability is perfect for Soap Opera viewing and none of them were in the least bit believable. The producers goaded Yo into starting that ridiculous and completely out of the blue conversation about DUI’s and drunks and the rest attempted to imrov on it. I was insulted that they actually believed that anyone with an IQ above the single digit range would buy the crap that they were attempting to pass off as “reality”. This show lost credibility for me a long time ago but now it’s just a huge farce. Brandi couldn’t compete in the acting department with her B-list cast-mates so she suddenly has a weird out burst in the street that made no sense and proved that she will NEVER be an actress. This was such a waste of my time that I regret not just simply waiting for your recap and watching Dance Moms instead. At least they don’t pretend to be “real”. actors. Yuck…this show jumped the shark and got swallowed whole. Also, if Yolanda is as sick as she states than how the hell did she ride a bike through Amsterdam and do all the rest of that crap? In one picture she looks like she’s dying and yet there she was acting like a healthy, active woman without a care in the world. She also seemed to be in full possession of all her faculties and I saw no evidence of brain trauma (except for the fact that she is still showing up for filming).
Wow…does it really matter if it’s real or not? It’s mindless entertainment and for some folks, kinda fun. Sounds like you could use some ‘space cake’. Just say’n….
I’ll agree about Kyle and her histronics! We know, Kyle, you’re the victim. You win. (By now I feel the worst for Kathy, and she ain’t exactly peach, either!)
“I saw no evidence of brain trauma (except for the fact that she is still showing up for filming).”
Bwahahahaha!!!
Kim is not that good of an excellent actress!
I don’t see the episodes until the next day, but I always come here Tuesday nights for TT’s recap and the comments. Even so, the ferocity and viciousness in this episode was unnerving. Kim is just an evil person, and her current condition just makes it worse. Remember how she went off on Ken last season?
As for Brandi, her hissy fit after the coffee shop reminded me of a 2 year old wanting attention. It’s clear she just doesn’t belong with this group of women-and neither does Kim. Watching their sanctimonious and self serving confessionals is painful. Talk about denial! It’s time for both of them to go.
And one more thing.,.
Who behaves like that in public, especially in a foreign country?!?!
The Real Housewives of Holland went off the rails last night! Kim took a page out of the Brandi handbook and made a dig at a husband.
I have a question and I hope that it comes across as respectful. If someone who is claiming to be sober for three years takes a prescription medication that was NOT prescribed for them….then doesn’t that wipe out their sobriety claim?
Yep. Sobriety is NO use of anything.
Maybe the question to Kim should be: how do you define sobriety?
Lol…yeah, except there’s only one definition. Did you notice how she threw her children it it? Like she’s been a model mom when everyone knows addicts are selfish. They can’t see beyond their needs before anything and anyone.
@Tayna and @Debs~ Thanks for responding. I thought that was how sobriety worked, but since Kim keeps throwing the number “3” around, I thought that maybe I was mistaken and that perhaps there was difference between sobriety with drinking and medications that I did not know about. 🙂
Yeah..I don’t know why she kept saying 3 years…she has not been sober for the last 3 seasons. Since we still don’t know why she was in the ‘hospital’ it’s hard to believe she wasn’t getting pain meds which would automatically knock her out of sobriety.
Kim’s clearly delusional & I’m sure she believes because she hasn’t been using her drug of choice (whatever that may be) for 3 years — she’s still sober. Her rational was she had to use her ex’s pain meds because she was in “so much pain” (i.e. she had NO choice)! As someone wrote above she’s an insult to those who truly work their programs.
You know kim doesn’t apologize once for her behavior! She feels justified…oh my goodness!! You may be right about her being high! Notice how she is adamant she hasn’t taken a drink which isn’t the issue? People are worried about her pill use! I suspect she may be supplementing her addiction with other drugs!
Because to the addict, it’s always about me! Notice how Kim turned it around
I just can’t imagine that kyle had to deal with that all these years! I’ve only watched 2 years post her sobriety! Poor kyle ran so quick I swear someone was after her!! She doesn’t even know how to deal with the mean behavior! I highly doubt Kathy would support that behavior she seems snobbier than they are!! What is kim even talking about??!
The worst thing Kim did IMO was her cold stare at Lisa R while Lisa was talking about losing her sister to drugs. How could she sit there with hate on her face while someone is describing something traumatic?
It bothers me that she and brandi will grasp at anything to start controversy while ignoring their bad behavior!! Brandi had no reason for being a disgusting gossiping piece of vomit! The ladies and society talk about you because of your horrible behavior!
Brandi can only be so much responsible for the fight between Kim and Lisa. After a certain point, they acted the way they did, Brandi sat there and even tried to restrain Kim at certain points, and don’t get all over me because I’m not a Brandi fan. It’s just that the other two were why it escalated (well, mostly Kim). And, though I am not big on Kim these days (or ever), I’d like to see her or Brandi get away with smashing a glass and nobody appear to have any problem with it. Even under the circumstances, and I was completely disgusted with Kim as a viewer, you can’t smash glasses, it’s dangerous. No matter how mean, evil, or Satanic your verbal attacker may be.
A more constructive way to deal with Kim might have been to bring the “Apostle” who “exorcised” Phaedra’s house in. Cast those demons out!
OMG! I almost typed the same thing!
I think I have mixed feelings about people who practice in manipulating, influencing and exploiting peoples weaknesses. On the one hand, yes people are responsible for their own behaviour, but it doesnt excuse the truely deplorable, predatory ,destructive nature of the ones who egg it on, and sit back and watch. The thing is Kim is maybe the same creep that Brandi is, so they are a real great duo together and Kim doesnt need much prodding.
On another note, having been to Amsterdam a few times in my younger (‘partier’) years, I can say that those space cakes or any of those things you buy with weed in them are weak as f*ck. You can buy practically anything with pot, even lollipops. But they don’t debilitate you, it’s mostly a tourist thing since locals rarely buy those things. Also, in the coffee shops, the locals roll their joints mixed with tobacco, instead of 100% pot. They also use rolled filters which I adapted as part of my style. Back when I partook.
Brandi retweeted a dumb article from her blogger friend bashing her children’s stepmom. Eight years since the divorce and she is still angry and bitter over LeAnn. It’s sad. As a mother do you not want to at least pretend everything is ok for the sake of the kids? I dont doubt that she loves her kids but….smh.
It’s mind blowing how 8yrs later Brandi’s still trashing her children’s stepmother. Not only does LeAnn love these children but she contributes to their child support & watches them while Brandi’s travelling / making appearances. What’s even more mind blowing is Brandi’s LeAnn bashing tweets or retweets have a captive & supportive audience. She is one sick, twisted broad. I can’t understand why Eddie hasn’t gone to court to gain full custody of those boys — it’s not like he doesn’t have a boatload of ammunition & I’m sure most family court judges would frown upon her continual bashing LeAnn. I really hope Eddie’s just waiting for the opportune moment to pull the trigger.
ETA: I would imagine most women in Brandi’s situation would avoid bad mouthing their children’s stepmother — especially publically! Her #1 priority should be her children & their happiness & welfare, NOT the fact that her husband left her for another woman (after all, Brandi herself is the one who’s stated repeatedly that she’d bring home “hot chicks to make-out with in front of Eddie” — what did she expect!)
Her self-centeredness & jealousy is disgusting. Brandi herself has stated the boys love LeAnn & it appears she can’t handle another woman in their lives. Maybe I’m in the minority but I’d be overjoyed if someone took an interest in my children – & that includes my ex-husband’s new wife. Only an insecure woman would be threatened that another woman loved her children & treated them well & was able to give them amazing opportunities that I’d never be able to afford. By continually trashing her I’d be afraid she’d retaliate on my children!
addie, I completely agree. When your children have to be away from you, a loving mother hopes they are safe and secure with adults who will care for them and love them while they are there.
I have the sickening feeling that Eddie and LeAnn don’t WANT sole custody. I can’t figure out any other reason for them not to have it. At one point, I thought maybe she was blackmailing Eddie with a secret, but I’m not sure Brandi is capable of keeping a secret, so that’s out.
The whole thing is weird.
I’m guessing he doesn’t want them full time.
I thought the same thing, that he must not want them full time because anyone, after seeing Brandi’s drunken, erratic and manipulative behavior would probably have taken some sort of action, you’d think. She wouldnt give up her “I’m a poor single mom” status that easily though, its her favorite label.
I’m sorry but I’m just sick of reading comments like these over and over again – I don’t get it, either you don’t have the slightest clue how family court proceedings operate or just generally lack common sense?
One wouldn’t be able to just waltz into court, throw the real housewives of Beverly Hills on some projector, and say “see your honor, see! She’s totally drunk there! And that’s when she threw Lisa Vanderpump under the bus! And that’s her tampon string! And here’s that tweet when she called my new wife ugly! See what a horrible mother she is?! Okay thanks for the kids!”
It doesn’t work that way. How can you people not understand that?
There’s no “pile of evidence” that Eddie keeps stashed away for the imaginary custody battle each time Brandi does something you don’t like, that’s just your weird way of mentally reprimanding her and hoping there’s some grand tally being kept for each of her misdeeds. And just because a father doesn’t want to forbid the mother of his children from seeing them doesn’t mean he himself doesn’t want them.
Psylocke . . . Fortunately TT has strict measures in force that prevent stupidity from commenting here — but if you honestly believe so many of us think someone can “just waltz into court, throw the RHOBH on some projector, & say “see your honor, see!” → you clearly slipped through a hole in the fence!
Does it somehow make you feel superior to chastise & tell a group of adults (many who’ve been around for 50+ years & who’ve worked or had dealings in the family court system) how the system works?!
Since so many of us “don’t have the slightest clue” or “just generally lack commonsense” I’m surprised we all found our way here! Guess we’re all just lucky.
Personally, I love chastising old people. It makes me feel young, like Brandi. 🙂
😛
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
And that’s exactly why all of us fools who “lack commonsense” are so damn lucky we fell into this rabbit hole. Sure we could claw our way out or scream for help — but we like it here. ☺
Hmm, I really do wonder what Kim was hinting at regarding Harry. Keep in mind, she probably has known about his activities for a very long time.
I wonder too…and Kim Richards made sure that we are wondering.
GREAT BLOG TT . Kim really needs to be off the show and in rehab and Brandi just needs to go period. Kim being with Brandi has just brought out the worst in her.
Absolutely agree.
Thats why addicts shouldn’t be around others addicts. Kim’s true side came out during this season and all it took was some coaching from Brandi.
I was astounded when the viewing public seemed to support Porsha after she was violent with Kenya. Porsha’s supporters felt she was justified because how Kenya provoked her. Now I see many people justifying Lisa R. because Kim provoked her. What Lisa R. did was very violent. I don’t think she smashed that glass on the floor, it looked like she smashed it on the table. They even showed someone wiping up the glass shards off the table. No one got hurt but they certainly could have.
No one here said Rinna’s action was justified. The difference is she showed remorse and apologized to all concerned. Porsha… to this day maintains she was justified and has never apologized.
Of course Lisa R.’s response to her own bad behavior was a million times better than Porsha’s. However, I did not see Lisa R. seem that sorry really. She said she would never talk to Kim again after she herself threw and smashed a glass? After talking to Kim the next morning she went and told everyone they were moving forward because they came to an agreement. The agreement was simply “Don’t talk about me being an addict or I will talk about your dirty laundry.” Lisa seemed to really feel the threat that Kim was making and agreed to let it go.
Your observation about Rinna is interesting. However, what you are leaving out is you can’t have a rational conversation with someone who is irrational. I saw Rinna handling Kim more so than dealing with her as a peer able to come to agreement.
Kim may be completly out of her mind at times, but in the let’s move forward scene she was as calculated and sharp as the shard’s from the glass Lisa threw. Kim wanted Lisa off her back, so she threatened her, “air my dirty laundry and I’ll air your’s”. Lisa got it and backed off. I think Lisa went to the extreme of throwing the glass to shut Kim up. Lisa really did not want what ever is common knowledge amoungst themselves to become knowledge for the common folk.
Can’t wait for the reunion!
I was just glad that none of those glass shards put someone’s eye out.
It seems like physical violence is the “new drama” on these shows. Very Jerry Springer. Andy reminds me of him. It is so trashy. Very surprised in Lisa R., however; she brought up her husband so that would fire me up too!
In Lisa’s case she snapped. Porsha didn’t snap, that was a premeditated attack, and she used the same hold on Kenya that I’ve seen vivica use. And Kenya is not at all like Kim so don’t go there!
Who said Kenya is like Kim?
I think Andy made a parallel between Lisa R. and Phaedra. From there it’s just a small jump to blamingkenya. It’s probably her fault anyway Kim wanted Lisa R. to be like everyone else and start walking on eggshells.
Personally I dont feel bad for Kim. She went for the husband , leaked compassion for LisaR’s dead sister and basically said she had an eating disorder “Why dont you have a piece of bread you might feel better.” Kim made Lisa her target and wanted confrontation and she got one. Lisa did feel bad for her actions plus shes human. It happened. Unlike Porsha who claimed to feel bad but once she got the support from Twitterverse and other blogs she doesn’t feel bad what she did to Kenya what so ever. Even when she got arrested Twitterverse still backed her and didn’t hold her accountable.
lacked*
Lisa R, up until this point, truly believed that Kim could be helped. She has finally come to the realization that there is absolutely no help for Kim.
Send ME the bread and the space cake, I would happily dispose of the left overs. Yum!
Kim told Lisa Rinna to eat a piece of bread because she is obviously anorexic, not because of the poker party where everyone told Kim to eat
I think so too
I have witnessed television’s all time high, the Apollo moon landing and it’s all time low, Kim.
I love your re caps!
’twas no shark,’twas Moby Fucking Dick.
Great recap. That show was wow. Can’t stand Kim. Such the stereotypical addict projecting onto others who dare to call her out. Poor Kyle. We know she appears to be there much more as the crutch both financially and emotionally (and Mauricio) than Kathy, and she is a child that never grows up. She is so annoying and Brandi has worked her way down the rungs to that one. So what was so earthshattering about Harry that Lisa went in like we’d never imagine- he cheated? Well, whatevs. We now know she stayed married to him when he wasn’t sober through apparently most of their marriage.And what was the comment about the bread to calm down? Is she saying Lisa is too thin? I don’t think so. To me, she looks great. Guiliana Rancic is skeletal. I doubt whatever the Harry offense was we’ll never know. I’ll say it again- I still like this show, although this is the only time I’ve watched Kim. I usually fast forward through anything with her.
The comment about the bread was a reference to Lisa offering her something to eat the night of the Poker Party. You know, the night Kim allegedly doesn’t remember.
There is no talking to this crew about that topic, Yoya. They are convinced that the table full of anorexics was singling out Lisa Rinna.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
Actually, TT, I changed my thought that Kim was making a skinny jab. I do see that it was a “payback” for Lisa’s comment on poker night. At first, I assumed there was no way Kim remembered anything that night, but of course, she’s probably replayed that episode countless times. Big DUH on my part!
I’ve had experiences with people who turn into Satan like Kim did at the table. I’ve seen how they keep a running list in their head and use each one as ammo when it’s time to fight. So I really think Kim is paying attention, she’s just playing dumb when it’s convenient to say she forgot that favor she promised you but she will remember the time you insulted her last Easter.
Yeah, I agree … I also know people like that. Kim will save every little imaginary insult/criticism and store them away, just waiting for a chance to hurl them back. It seems the real Kim is nothing like the playful, giggly one we see in her talking head!
No but she is that giggly girl! Nobody is 100% evil. If the real Kim came out, she’d be horrified by how mean she’s being. I refuse to believe that anyone is evil, there’s just something manipulating their brains. Kyle probably treasures those moments when Kim is the Kim she knows. Then when it turns into Evil Kim, Kyle runs and feels no ties whatsoever that evil stranger. At least that’s what I do. The real Kim is the good one.
kat0711, unfortunately I have a couple people like that in my family & though at 1st I thought the “eat some bread” comment was referencing her weight, I agree Kim clearly remembered Lisa’s poker night comment.
Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.
That should of been the title of the episode!
That made me spit my coffee. Lmao. Funniest comment of the thread!
Yeesss! Marie Antoinette!
Did anyone notice around :57 when they walk out after the space cakes that Brandi appears to have a Baggie full of cake she is putting in her purse?
Hahaha she surely did! I saw it too.
I still feel chilled recalling Kim’s face and demeanor from the dinner. To me she came across as utterly soulless with dark, hollow, shark-like eyes, completely devoid of feeling. I’ve never felt that way before from witnessing an exchange on any HW show. And the viciousness and vehemence with which she avers her “sobriety” belies the fact that she hasn’t any. If she were truly sober all the questioning in the world would mean nothing and she would invest zero energy in defending it. Twisting Lisa’s questions into an attack on her children? Please, but unfortunately Lisa seemed to have bought that twisted deflection, it’s hard to argue when someone is claiming to defend their children.
The husband comment; did it make anyone think of the offhand, backhanded comment that BG made to Kyle at the mixer? That Kim claimed to have not heard? Kyle to BG: “You’re not wanted here” BG to Kyle: “Neither are you, go ask your husband”.
I agree with your description of Kim at the dinner table. It reminded me of a neighbor of mine, I used to be friends with. Her moods could shift dramatically over something, and it was like the mask of who she wanted people to believe she was, came off and there was a whole other scary, hateful person there. Another poster said Kim may be a sociopath, and the 12 step programs wont work for her. I think my neighbor is a sociopath, my husband thought so before and I should have listened to him sooner. Sociopaths are really strange creatures and Kim is certainly not some nice loveable person underneath. There are some dark layers to her.
I think the “bombshell” reveal Andy talks about on the reunion will be Kim admitting her relapse.
I think it’s the fact that Kim made up the part about HH to get Lisa to stop( just to piss her off) This woman needs help!
There was some last minute editing to RHOBH that involved what appears to be an entire episode going missing. Also the “BIG SCENE” at the forced dinner happen at the beginning of the episode after the one that seems to have been cut out.
I think there is a whole lot of back pedaling happening. While housewifes can’t sue each other, husbands or children most assuredly can. It seems to me like some things are being tidied up and Moron 1 and Moron 2 may be doing the backstroke at the reunion.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
>
I love when Brandi says “some of these women just dont know how to let anything go”. Meanwhile she just retweeted a nasty article about her children’s stepmom (written by her blogger pal) and she is still rambling about Scheana. Yeah Brandi, some women cant let anything go…
Interesting the comments about Lisa Rinna being “super thin” or “being too thin for her age.” Just insert – X is “super fat” or “way too fat for her age” and think about whether anyone on here would find that kind of shaming ok. I realize Lisa R isn’t on here, so the shaming isn’t something she’ll see (but who knows). But, people are naturally thin when they eat right and work out a lot without being sick or abnormal. I know those of us (and I count me among them) who can’t get that thin and fit no matter what we do (mostly because – again like me – we’re not motivated enough) sometimes like to think great looking women and men are that way b/c there’s “something wrong with them.” But, when we are honest, we know there’s not.
Okay…IMHO you are projecting. No one is ‘shaming’ Rinna.
Why are all the “something wrong with your husband,” “your husband doesn’t love you” comments on this show coming from women who can’t keep a healthy relationship if their lives depended on it? And, the definition of rhetorical question starts here . . . .
I tried to post this earlier on my phone and I guess I didn’t hit the submit button or something…Anyway, I was watching the extended clip of the girls getting into Amsterdam, and there’s this part where a man is walking completely naked down the street. Kyle and Lisa R. get all hysterical over it, and Kim makes some sly comment to Yolanda about how that’s probably the only Penis Lisa R has seen in a long time. Based on this, maybe what Kim was hinting at when she brought up Harry was some sort of infidelity or marital problems? Either way, Kim is vicious and I noticed she was a nasty little biatch after she told Paul and Adrienne what Brandi had said at Mauricio’s party, and when Kyle asked her why she would bring that up there, Kim didn’t give two craps about Kyle or the legitimate concerns she brought up. She’s also a hypocrite because she expects Kyle to always back her up, but I’ll never forget how she sat there and said nothing when Camille and Kyle were going at it. She didn’t defend Kyle first. I don’t really like Kyle either. She has a jealous streak and can be just as vicious as Kim when she needs to be.
Now for the good ones. I seriously can’t stress enough how much I loooooveee Eileen. She’s amazing and so gorgeous. I really hope she stays this way and doesn’t become a crazy diva or something next season. Lisa V annoys me sometimes with her backhanded compliments, but she’s a really good friend who has always stuck up for the people who she calls her friends. I respect that.
Essay over.
Brandi’s blog OMG, OMG, Brandi’s blog, Brandi’s blog OMG…wow, homegirl just went IN on Rinna, Kyle and Eileen, and touched a bit on Vanderpump…My face is just like :-0 . I have to say I now see why Andy decided to have the reunion so far ahead of the last few episodes instead of like the 2nd before the last one, cuz if he had to bring even HALF of their blogs into question and with quotes..this Beverly Hills reunion would have looked like WWE but for real! I am just in shock…I mean…damn.
I can’t wait til TT breaks down Brandi awful written blog. Bravo just dont give a shit anymore editing these things now.
Not that I like either Brandi or Kim or any of them all that much, but I do agree with Brandi and kim somewhat. Maybe Lisa was coming from a good place but to go on and on with the Kim thing and to make snarky comments about “letting Kim get away with her behavior” ect. Doesn’t sound like a person who’s only coming from a good place. If they were concerned about keeping Kims personal problems private , then that party fiasco could’ve been spun in a million different ways that didn’t include calling Kim an addict all over again. And I don’t care who you are, or what you think you’ve seen, you NEVER get involved with sister’s arguing. Lisa R has made serveral comments to Kyle about Kim that were out of line. One should never tell one sister to be done with the other. That’s not cool. I get the feeling that Kyle hasn’t been there for Kim the way she acts as though she has off camera. Clearly, Kim and Kathy are much closer. Kyle does always try to play the poor victim and it’s phony. Kim had asked Lisa to DROP IT and yet, she brought it up again. I can understand why she got mad. These women ARE a bunch of hypocrites. Bottom line is that they don’t have any respect for Kim or Brandi and they aren’t important enough to be a threat to them so nothing is off limits with them. Yet, everything is off limits with Kyle and Lisa R too apparently. I know my comments aren’t gonna be popular but I do agree that these women are total hypocrites and I’m tired of seeing Kyle pretend to be the poor wounded sister that apparently she is not off camera.
Did your VCR chew your tape after the poker party when Brandi physically got in between KIM and Kyle?