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Lisa Rinna’s Bravo Blog this week manages to put Brandi and Kim’s crazy into sober (SWIDT?) perspective. The thing is, my brain is full. I’ve learned a lot of stuff in life. I’ve got a lot of memories. My hard drive is full. I have like 2% left of room to save shit. So Real Housewives is nowhere near making the cut for my memory bank. So since I save these blogs to discuss at the end of the week and over the weekend, I’ve forgotten more of the episodes than I remember. Reading Lisa’s blog is super helpful to me because I find myself saying, “Oh yeah, that is exactly how things went down. I had forgotten.”
I had hoped that she would address Kyle’s use of the word “sober” in relation to Harry. Frankly, I don’t know if Harry quit drinking because he was an alcoholic, or because he was worried he might be headed there, or because he had a drinking problem or because he didn’t want to drink anymore because alcohol killed so many of his family members. It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think whatever the situation is it is some shameful secret. Harry is living an alcohol free life according to Lisa. Good for him if that is his choice. I’m not sure why Kyle or anyone else is concerned with the time frame or whether or not he has a collection of poker chips on his dresser.
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Next we head off to Calgary to be a part of the David Foster Foundation Gala, which raises money to support families with children in need of an organ transplant. Before we arrive there however, I had quite an intense conversation with Kim Richards about her sobriety on the plane. She had been unusually quiet and uneasy around me, and me being one to crack an egg wide open to get to the heart of the problem asked her flat out if she was upset with me.
This sort of cut to the chase behavior is not commonplace with these ladies. They clearly don’t know how to react. They are ALL busy covering things up.
She was told that I had been talking to numerous people about her sobriety. Or rather, lack of sobriety. She wanted me to back off and stop talking behind her back, but here’s the thing you guys: I had just had a conversation to her face in Eileen’s kitchen. I looked into her eyes and flat out said, “You can get help. You can talk to people. You can go to a meeting and find a group, so you aren’t alone.” Lisa V. was also right there during this conversation offering her own support, to which Kim literally responded with, “Blah, blah, blah…” As we have seen before, Kim tends to conveniently forget key events and things that are said in her presence, so maybe I should have seen her response of “Blah, blah, blah” as “I am literally and physically not listening to any of this.” Who knows.
I know! Pick me! It totally means she was not listening.
But what I do know is that particular conversation cannot be twisted into me talking behind her back. When I speak with someone about someone else, I absolutely HAVE TO then speak to the person I have just spoken about. That is what a friend does. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and I happen to really like firemen, so I will go straight to that source every time. Haha!
But that is not what these women do. You are in an alternate universe that you do not understand. Kind of like that Sci-Fi movie that Eileen was in.
The tense conversation between Kim and I on the plane, though, was just too much. She chose to speak to me as if I were a child and yelled at me each time I apologized to her. I don’t know how many times I apologized, and she decided to snub and fire back an icy, “Just drop it!” or “Leave it alone!” instead of carrying on a normal conversation where both people can speak like mature grown ups.
She is not a mature grown-up. She an active addict. Don’t tell me she didn’t take something before getting on that plane. A lot of people take a pill before flying who are not addicts. I will say it wasn’t Brandi’s Xanax. If you notice, Brandi was comfortably numb on the plane and out of the conflict. As was Kyle to a lesser degree.
Of course, the bug in Kim’s ear is Brandi, Queen of Deflection. The reason I sat down for lunch with her was for me to ask why SHE is so aggressive and why SHE says the hurtful things she does and why SHE thinks it’s ok to act like a 3-year-old. I wanted to have a face-to-face, open and honest conversation with her about what makes her tick the way she does, so I could form my own opinions outside of what the other women have told me.
She’s an alcoholic.
As I can now see in hindsight, Brandi steered our lunch conversation to be about Kim, so we didn’t have to talk about why Brandi is the way she is. I would have liked to see Brandi be honest with Kim about her concerns she shared with me that day, but from what I can tell, Brandi seems scared of Kim and basically just tossed the whole messy situation on me. If anything, I would say we’re actually witnessing Brandi talk behind Kim’s back, since she didn’t share any of her parts of the conversation. Very irresponsible and definitely not what I would call a good friend.
She’s an alcoholic.
We make it to Amsterdam, and as you can see, we clearly packed the crazy train in our carry-on luggage. I was kinda hoping it would be left at home, but we just wouldn’t be us without it, now would we? Kim continues to constantly bitch at her sister in the airport and create a scene, which is only the beginning for lots more craziness to come! Hope you’re ready!
I can’t wait!
These women love to deflect from any issue at all by concerning themselves more with where things were said (“behind my back!!”) So they can then avoid what was actually said, whether it be a factual statement, a valid opinion, an apology, etc. They are all so stunted.
just want to say tamaratattles is the best site. so far above the others,
it is witty, interesting, so well written, you just do not want it to end.
everyone needs to listen up. so good!!!!
I see you received the PayPal. I hope you use it to fix your shift key.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kim was clearly on some sort of bitch fest/witch hunt on this trip! It makes it hard to have any empathy for her!
I don’t. Do you remember a couple of episodes back when Lisa and Kim were riding in the taxi together on the way to Eileen’s house? Kim was an absolute bitch to Lisa for no reason (other than the fact she was on something).
That was scary.
Do you suppose The Crazy Train stops at the Underground Railroad? First stop, Beverly Hills, second stop Atlanta, third stop New Jersey! All aboard! Reserved seats for Richardson, Brandi, Porsha, Nene and the entire cast of RHONJ!
That’s funny, hahaha
Why Porsha? She’s no longer a housewife, let’s stop giving her the attention she so desperately wants! Porsha is now the new Dana aka Pam.
“Porsha is now the new Dana aka Pam.” I love it!
“Porsha is now the new Dana aka Pam.”
And ‘Pam,’ like Porsha, is a criminal.
“Did you see these boobs? Twenty-five thoudannnnndd”….
I’ve defended Kyle plenty of times, but dragging Lisa R’s husband into the conversation was bitter, petty, and mean. Because Lisa R handled it like a champ does not diminish the shitty behavior by Kyle. I still feel for her, but she is making it harder to do so.
You can clearly see that Kyle did that on purpose and as a so called “friend” of Lisa R before the show was a real “low blow!” As TT said, we don’t know why Harry stopped drinking but the way Kyle worded it, it was certainly meant to me mean and hurt Lisa R. If Kyle didn’t like Lisa R trying to address Kim’s addition, on camera, then she should have told Lisa R to back off the subject in private. Kyle is a bitch!!!!
I do believe Kyle’s deflection is because SHE is the one who ultimately pays the price whenever there is a fallout from Kim’s addiction. Notice how Kim ALWAYS turns it back to Kyle, EVEN WHEN KYLE ISN’T THERE i.e.: “Kyle, you’re being mean” “Kyle, you hurt my feelings” “Kyle, why do you put me in the middle of everything?”
When Kyle isn’t even involved. Honestly, I think a part of Kim’s sickness is a desire to bring down Kyle in any way she can. Kyle knows this, knows Kim has her secrets, and is running scared.
Still not an excuse to bring up Harry. Not her finest moment. But in the end, Lisa R ends up like the champion she is by rising above it and not picking a fight.
I found that moment to be a very telling look into the psyches of each of the girls. I really hope Lisa R and Kyle have some private conversations as I think Lisa R could really be a great mentor to Kyle (who really really needs someone that is there for HER).
Yep, even here there is a ton of finger pointing at Kyle every time Kim creates a spectacle. The reason Kyle is “embarrassed” beyond the obvious reasons that aren’t so obvious to some, is because she knows that SHE is going to be scrutinized and blamed no matter how she reacts to Kim’s madness.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kyle wanted to distract from Kim by getting everyone talking about Harry.
Um Kyle is on Lisa Rinna’s side in Copenhagen …
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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This isn’t about “sides.” Kyle is embarrassed by Kim’s behavior and is not comfortable with it being discussed, even by Lisa R. She doesn’t “fight” with Lisa R. about it, but she does try to change the subject (she did the same thing in the limo after the poker party). Just look at how Kyle reacts when Kim is acting out — she bawled up in her seat on the plane (practically in the fetal position) and from the clips we saw of next week she hides her face behind her jacket and then runs away out of the restaurant. It’s like Kim’s behavior makes her revert to being a child.
What I’m writing isn’t necessarily a “diss” of Kyle — it’s just what I’ve observed. She does attempt to change the subject when anyone — including Lisa R. — attempts to discuss Kim’s behavior/problems.
True. She does do everything possible to avoid the whole thing. The running out of the restaurant was kinda crazy!
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I noticed the same thing, but as TT pointed out no one knows for sure why he stopped drinking. Kyle did not need to bring it up as Harry has no part in this show really. And Lisa didn’t deflect or deny so that is very refreshing to see.
Um, could be editing, I think Kyle-I feel sorry for her- walks on egg shells on the topic of addiction.
If bringing up HH bothered Lisa R she would have addressed it with Kyle. This whole group uses the term sober interchangeably with abstaining from alcohol. Had Kyle said, how long has it been since HH stopped drinking alcohol? Instead of how long sober it tends to have a different meaning.
I agree that Lisa R. would have said something if Kyle bringing up HH bother her — but I didn’t say it did. I said it was Kyle’s attempt to get Lisa R. talking about something else OTHER THAN Kim.
Also, Kim’s behavior is often called “jonesing”. Pretty par for the course.
Kim seems emotionally stalled at 13. No offense to 13-year olds.
Hmm, I’m gonna make sure not to miss the next episode. Missed most of this season but sounds like upcoming might be interesting. If they get rid of Brandy and BH lasts another season, I might tune in next season.
I can’t believe the preview for next week. LisaR goes for Kim’s throat throws wine (or water) in her face and then slams the glass on to the floor. I know I am being a hypocrite here, because when Brandi did it, I trashed her, but finally somebody has given Kim Richards a real STFU warning. Lisa said it takes a lot to get her angry, but she can get white trash with the best of them. Notice in that scene how Brandi is so quiet as she innocently watches her plan come to fruition. If Brandi is not in a fight, you can believe she caused it with her lying, slut-pig mouth. No doubt she has been “researching” Harry Hamlin so she can give Kim some ammo. Bitch.
LOL. Can’t wait for next episode. The only one I’ve looked forward to watching. Hehehehe.
I don’t think you are a hypocrite. There is a huge difference between being a malicious shit stirrer and being a person who has finally reached their limit.
Brandi spends her life trying to make everyone as miserable as she is. She uses the “divide and conquer” technique that so many abusers use. It is a part of who she is.
Lisa R is a decent human being who was pushed past her limit. What she did wasn’t right, but I’m pretty sure we will see her accepting that it happened (rather than blaming someone else) and apologizing for it.
HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I can’t STAND Kim and I wish she was off the show now. I mean it, really want to punch her.
I have always felt that way about Kim, I just want to kick her in the vag! She is so mean and such a liar, take some friggen responsibility for your actions. Now everyone have a great night!
She looks like a poster child for premature osteoporosis and liver failure. I think you would only have to poke her.
She needs to be”put down” along with kingsley
Bullshit! Put that bitch Kim down because she is well passed her expiration date but leave poor Kingsley alone. It’s not his fault Kim is a flaming asshole junkie….
Cannot say it enough…I luv luv luv Rinna! She and Eileen are such strong players that it pushes LVP to the side a bit, which is awesome! LVP was doing the most last season…her passive aggressive manipulations were so infuriating. Now if only they would shove BG off the cliff @ Runyon’s Canyon!
I think LVP had to play it like that to protect herself, anytime she was honest or herself w/ the ladies last season, they read into every word & blasted her behind her back. I think the old Lisa will be back next season.
I think she is happy & relieved to not be in the middle of all the drama this season. The producers probably allowed that since they begged her to come back.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the addition of Lisa R. and Eileen!!!! Kim’s addict behavior is intolerable – be gone. Brandi’s foul, vicious mouth is also intolerable – she needs to go also.
I just saw a long clip of the Kim/Rinna confrontation next week. Rinna loses her mind, almost strangles Kim literally, throws an drink in her face and the shatters a glass on the table in between Kim and her. Eileen is sitting directly to Rinna’s right. Eileen doesn’t seem to even flinch. It’s amazing. Kyle freaks out and runs out of the restaurant. Yolanda is on Lisa’s side of the table and step in to calm her down and keep her from destroying the restaurant.
The clip was from Access Hollywood Live. Kyle says everyone was crying when it was over. Even production was shaken.
I hope no one went to jail. Brandi and Rinna both have tweeted a lot about situations and the reunion about “I didn’t go to jail!” I’m starting to wonder if one or both of them were briefly “Locked Up Abroad”!
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Lisa has an explosive temper. I saw a clip too and you can tell that Lisa LOST IT and just went from zero to 100 in one second.
I did hear Eileen say to Kim that “you are a truly vicious person”. LVP also looked like she was going to cry. Everyone looks schocked except Kim. Kim looked smug and just kept repeating, taunting and goading Lisa saying “everyone will know” over and over again. OMG!!
Lisa Rinna does not have an explosive temper. She will spend the rest of the season freaked out by her reaction. 🙁
I literally looked like she was going to strangle Kim as she bent over the table. Kim wasn’t even afraid. Brandi had to pull her away.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Was Kim under “Anesthesia” or however you spell the damn thing?
Oh wow. I think that is a really interesting theory about going to jail.
I still think Lisa R is a champ. Honestly, I’m not sure if her reaction is the best way to handle Kim, but is it so much worse than sweeping it under the rug?
The best thing to do with emotional leeches like Kim is avoid them like the plague. Otherwise she will drag you into her drama.
After watching the first look last night I completely understand why none of the women until this season has never came for Kim. Shes a nasty evil witch!
What she said to Kyle about Kathy/Brandi was so out of line and meant to hurt. That would be enough for me to disown her and only be there for my nieces/nephew only. Let Kathy And Brandi take care of the 50 yr old child!
Brandi was a tense scared mouse! Her little plan had worked. Everyone is fighting on her account.
Lisa Rinna definitely tapped into her inner temper a’la fellow Italian hw Teresa Guidice how she was about to take out Kim’s voicebox!
There was far more to it including Kim calling Eileen a beast and making horrible comments about Eileen’s face. Kyle ran out after Kim laid out a slew of insults and finally said to Kim her behavior was indefensible. Good idea of Yolanda to bring up her daughter’s DUI and get the conversation headed down this road.
Looking up the Access Hollywood clip now.
Assume you’ve read House of Hilton, Tamara. All the answers to the Richards’ aberrant behavior lie within that book. You’d do your readers a favor by giving a synopsis of that book!
It is not fair to judge an adult by their upbringing. After they have turned 18, their choices are on them.
I completely agree. People can be messed up by their childhood, yes, but they can also choose to get help. It happens all the time. Most of the great people I know didn’t have a perfect upbringing
After they are adults (I don’t know if I’d choose 18 as the turning point, but definitely by the time they are married with children of their own) their choices are on them BUT knowing their upbringing can provide insight as to why they make the choices they do.
The first 18 years of your life determine your future social interaction skills and baseline intellect. You can’t just not consider someone’s upbringing.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Fuck you all. Now you are going to blame the parents? My kids survived the 19 year old mark with no stitches, no health issues – other than ear infection, no scars. Now is off the hook…
No. TT is correct. Good or bad, your childhood forms much of who you are. Yes, people do overcome childhood challenges, but not all do. The Richards’ sisters issues to me have always been rooted in their inability to recognize their dysfunctional childhood and work to overcome that unhealthy home.
I have a problem to reconcile my upbringing with what my kids were dealt with. Yes I know, it was many years ago-I still have scars all over my body from raising me the “proper” way. I wasn’t a difficult child, just my mother was not the patient one. My witches had too good, I was trying to over compensate, I guess. Spoiled brats, ungrateful, entitled, lazy, procrastinating, leeches – that’s what I got now.
In Brandi’s #getoffmyTV language – assholes. Here is the kick: I am so proud of myself, I spoke about my kids (witches – girls) so badly but I managed not to call them names per se. Damn, my broken English is good.
First of all there’s a reason they’re called your “formative years”. Secondly, you can’t pretend a persons upbringing has zero effect on who they are as an adult, even if they do grow & change. In the Richards sisters case? They BOTH behave like immature spoiled shtty kids! I’d say that book is a solid guide & actually SHUD be read by anyone who might actually care as to the “WHY” of what they do now in middle age!! I mean Kyle & and her stupid RUNNING?!? Who the Fuk RUNS AWAY EVRY TIME a difficult situation occurs?! She literally RUNS AWAY. Then there’s Kim, Oofa, I can’t list all get issues but a huge one is how she blames everyone else for EVERYthing, NEVR takes responsibility & requires a god damn baby sitter.
I’d say that book defines these two.
Robin yes House of Hilton. I couldn’t remember the name. It will definitely give you insight about the Richards sisters.
You couldn’t remember the name? Someone brings it up in every RHOBH comment section these days. I feel better in my own forgetfulness now. 🙂
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It is quite interesting approach TT. the overload of memory and dumping it.
Yes, that is exactly what it is. I noticed my self: I can diagnose and pretty ,much fix a car in English – in Polish I am helpless, I know what is wrong – can’t communicate. Then as years go by, it was my signature saying in the class – cannot pronounced it, I can spell it though. Doesn’t hold truth anymore – sadly. I have learned everything initially in Polish and Russian. Then I adjusted to English – the more English I got, the more Polish/Russian I dropped. Then you have medical Latin – oy vey
my commas are drunk
I think more than your commas were drunk last night…
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m going to get it and read it. Just curious.
That book had no first hand accounts of Kim or Kyle upbringing. Most of the comments about Big Kathy came from their father’s subsequent wife, and a former sister in law. The guy that wrote the book is a low life muckraker, saying one understands Kim’s behavior based on that book is making a lot of assumptions. How about this one Kim is an addict who also happens to be an incredibly self-centered bitch. Kim can’t stand the fact she is now being forced to share the stage with successful adult actors, some of which have transitioned from child to adult actors. For anyone who didn’t see last night’s First Look, I would strongly suggest not championing Kim until that eleven minutes of film is viewed from start to finish.
Kim was lucky to have walked out of the restaurant in one piece.
I guess my DVR was occupied when the first look came on.
HOWEVER. I was flipping through future Bravo programming and noticed that RHOA was not taping for tomorrow night.
IF YOU TAPE MADAM SECRETARY, THEY HAVE SET IT TO END AN HOUR LATE SO YOU ARE FORCED TO TAPE THE GOOD WIFE. THIS KEEPS RHOA FROM TAPING! #PSA
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I just love Lisa R.
I love her also. I love her because she is gangsta. But her normal state of being is gentle, kind, and fun. Like a superhero. Her superhero name and costume would have to make reference to the lips. I will stick by her no matter the fallout. Kim has gone from a goofy drunk to a mean one.
Already we are seeing the fruits of her friendship with Brandi. When she said Kathy (Hilton) has always had my back and you haven’t. I almost had to laugh. We are talking about a woman who was once voted worst mother of the year, and who enabled Paris to drive drunk all over the place until she was such a a multiple offender that she want to jail. Kathy just nods her head at Kim and throws money at the problem. Kathy Hilton seems like a real bitch to me.
I’m liking Rinna and Eileen – I just hope it’s not just freshman hype and they don’t turn into somebody else if they come back next season.
I need this GIF on my desktop, now, full screen, on repeat and then linked to my tv screen.
It is simply everything.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m surprised that some think that Lisa talked about Kim for a storyline. After the infamous limo ride with Kim where she was batshit crazy and her demeanor on poker night, I would think it weird to NOT bring it up.
Kim looks lucid on the last few episodes. I think that is why she was so mean and ornery. She has a lot of nerve acting insulted like Lisa was bringing up her sobriety out of the blue. She should have prayed to another garbage can for guidance before she started in on HH’s fidelity.
Shes probably going through withdraws. Those can make you so rude and so nasty.
i don’t think it would hurt the show one bit if lisa rinna left. could care less about her. no storyline. same w kim. she contributes nothing. we could use a smaller cast, & i think it would be more fun for kyle to do the show w/o her sister.
I am surprised, I like Lisa R. I thought she is a fame… never mind. I like her I want her to stay. She is corky, dorky, however you spell it.
I wasnt big on her back on daytime tv (sorry I was a Bo/Hope fangirl and Billie was in the way
âMust you bring up Bo? I’m still. Not. Over. it. 🙁
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Eileen says in the clip to Kim “wow you are vicious” after what she said about HH. Lisa V looked like she was going to cry. If scripted, these ladies deserve an Emmy.
Kyle said Lisa V did cry and so did all the ladies on Access Hollywood Live
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Thanks, TT. Cant wait for this episode!
I think Lisa V’s hurt was definitely for Kyle especially when Kim made that lowblow comment towards her about being a “bad sister”. Then Kim taking Lisa R’s moment away to reflect on her late sister. Kim is the pits!
Yes. I saw her as well. I wonder what the Harry secret is that made a sane woman lose her shit big time, especially after they castigated Brandi for her wine glass incident. Well, I do love me some Lisa. A great addition to the show.
I generally agree with Lisa R but I felt she got caught up, perhaps unintentionally, in a lot of chatter about The True Meaning of Sobriety when a better approach would have been to contact Kim individually and just tell her she had alternated between slurred gibberish and unprovoked verbal abuse during that limo ride. Kim, IMO, would have probably given her the apology she deserves if it had been approached that way…and then would have been the time ask Kim about her sobriety support system. It just started to seem to me that the situation went from Lisa needing resolution after Kim was scary and cruel, to Lisa needing Kim to verbally acknowledge to people she didn’t know well on national TV that she relapsed. I do understand why Kim wouldn’t want to do that, and Lisa did seem judgmental. Yes, technically if you have a drop of alcohol after 50 years of sobriety you should get a new 24-hour token, but they’re steps, not commandments, and people do have different ways of approaching relapses even within AA/NA.
Lisa R kept asking all season why everyone is so afraid of Kim Richards. I guess now she has her answer.
Hahahaha, good one! Now we know why Kyle is so terrified of her too.
In the custody agreement, Kyle should give full custody to Brandi.
Hell yea. After that moment, I kind of get season 1 all too well now. Why Kyle never took her places with the other women in the group… Why Kyle’s own pseudo sister is Faye Resnick… Why Kyle ripped into Kim in the limo… All of this is cause and effect. Kim in social situations is bad news whether shes high or drunk or not. Shes a viper and mean to the core to people especially those that care for her the most like Kyle.
This vicious person we see in the latest clip is all Kim but we all know Brandi got her all riled up saying that Lisa and Eileen were talking behind her back. Let’s not minimize her influence on a crazy addict.
Brandi is probably cozying up to Kim to be friends with Kathy and the Hiltons like a piece of gum on the bottom of their shoes. Brandi singlehandedly destroyed the fragile relationship between Kyle & Kim because the opportunistic cunt needed an ally. BG truly is a worthless piece of shit.
I don’t think the vicious person we have been seeing is Kim, at all. I think it is a person in active addiction. It doesn’t excuse the behavior, though. If Kim would have ever attended a reunion, owned her own behavior and sincerely apologized… I would be rooting for her. Instead, she deflects, cries, victimizes herself. Sober people clean up their own messes, admit blame, and shut up. She has never been sober.
It infuriates me that Bravo has renewed her contract every season, though… Not just because they are doing Kim a disservice (which they totally are… I would have clawed my eyeballs out if I got sober and had to immediately see my drunken self from a year ago), but because addicts are DANGEROUS when using.
There is going to be a “special” place for the Brandi’s of the world. She is truly the one who is vicious. Kim is a drunk and an addict whose behavior is awful, but we all can see she is being used by Brandi. Everyone can see it but Kim.
I don’t see it that way at all — they are both just as vicious and they are both using each other.
Never underestimate how manipulative an addict can be.
Great recap of the blog, TT. Thanks.
I really like Lisa Rinna, but am disappointed to hear she gets physical with Kim; you can’t put hands on someone because you don’t like what s/he is saying.
I can’t stand Kim, Kyle or Brandi but I have a very bad taste in my mouth concerning Lisa Rinna. Ever since I saw her on Celebrity Apprentice I didn’t like her. She acted like such a wimp on that show and now she’s the new “Truth cannon” and totally brave? I’m not buying this and see her as an actress doing her job (not a housewife being real). I find nothing “real” about her and she is totally annoying. I DO like EIleen though and find her a lot more honest.
i dont watch soap operas so i guess that’s why i couldnt care less about lisa r. did watch melrose but she left no impression on me from that. what i can’t stand is the whole fame whore aspect of hers. saw a show last night that purported to be her looking for a new house that played like an infomercial. (oh yes she was gonna “tell harry” about one of the houses she saw there. no offer, no nothing.) saw other stuff like their short-lived harry loves lisa and belle grey, and she just comes off as doing anything to make a buck.
i dont agree w the people who said she had the right to out her addict family members, & i’m pretty sure her dead brother-in-laws’ families feel the same way. disgusted by that.
Capitalism: The right to do whatever you’d like as long as it’s legal to make a buck.
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Wow Kim is the most horrible person, I am in shock. My gosh Lisa R was crying over her sister and apologizing to that horrible cunt Kim Richards, sober or not Kim, is over 50yrs old she knows right and wrong, what she did was beyond words. I feel so bad for her children, can only imagine what they have had to deal with growing up with a horrible person like Kim as a mother.
I saw the first ten minutes of the next episode last night. Kim needs to tread lightly. Lisa Rinna proved that she can go from “a Zen place of understanding and reason” to “I will effing cut a bitch!” in about 2 seconds flat.
That first look gave me nightmares. Kim sitting there with those crazy eyes, not hearing anything Lisa Rinna is saying. Then Lisa Rinna turns into a dragon! That was awesome actually–Lisa Rinna rising from the flames. I hope she at least scared Kim a little. I wonder, though, if she had just laughed at Kim, if that would have been better. I blame the whole thing on Yolanda and her let’s talk about my daughter’s DUI for pleasant dinner conversation.
Kind of agree with you on that point; I’ve wished from the start that Lisa R would just laugh and smile at Kim when she plays out her well-rehearsed patterns. Even though this scene (the extended one TT mentions above) is at a dinner table, it reminds me of that horrid scream fest night where Kim & Kyle went at Brandi and took her crutches. All it takes is Kim, throw in a little oxygen, look at her sideways and *poof*. All her patterns blow up on the nearest person. It would be interesting to see Lisa R just smile, laugh and say “nope, not gonna stop talking about addiction Kim”.
I was just reminded elsewhere, totally unrelated to reality tv, where someone pointed out the pattern of addicts is to start fires all around them to deflect the attention from their behavior. In a word, Kim.
i’m just totally over this woman. that’s all.
TT, do you think Brandi will be asked back?
Hard to say. Everyone hates Tamra Barney and she’s back. OTOH, Brandi seems nervous and is making up reasons already for her departure…. who knows.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Brandi might be “too busy” working on her “secret project” with Leeza Gibbons.
The writing is on the wall.
Brandi is already trying to spin it.
Thanks, TT. She is definitely nervous and spinning so we shall see.
Do you think Tamara and Brandi could be sisters from different mothers?
Unlike everyone else Brandi doesnt even look shocked. She just sat back looking innocent watching Kim attack. Also, I have seen Kim say multiple times how Kyle has been there for her then all of a sudden Kyle is not sticking up for her again? Yes, BG was in her ear all right.
Kim only says that Kyle is supportive when Kyle is nearby. Why? Because Kyle IS supportive in every sense of the word. Kim is reliant upon Kyle and Mauricio and now is reliant on Kathy financially.
When Kyle is not around, however, Kim seeks sympathy from others by claiming that “Kyle stole HER house” and “Kyle is not supportive”, conveniently leaving out the facts.
Kim is a manipulator and a huge part of those manipulations is in finding someone to blame as the “bad guy”. Brandi will be the bad guy next. Mark my words. Perpetual victims go from person to person, using them (by manipulating sympathies) and then accusing them of victimization.
Best way to deal with this type of sociopath is avoidance.
How do you know that Kathy is now helping Kim?
Who knows what happened to Kim during those 7,8,9,10 days in the hospital? I guess we can choose a number since no one seemed to agree. I’ll soon be 66 and I have been involved in AA since I was 15, not me personally but my family. I think that the way you count sobriety is from the time of your last taste and NA used AA’s bylaws. The worst part of AA for me was the dry drunks. They don’t act drunk but are so mean and angry b/c they want to use. Perhaps Kim dried out but is ‘jonesing’ as someone above said. She is envious of the other women. Other than her BFF, they all have a family, a life, and the money to live it. Kim NEEDS the Bravo contract to live. Guess that whole no fighting rule is no longer in force on the HW shows. I’m team Lisa.
Kyle needs to go to Al-Anon. If Kim it’s sober, she is obviously not working those steps. I wish Brandi would wander into a whore house/opium den in Amsterdam and stay there.
Lisa R. is a sweetheart. Quit stressing out over Kim. She’s not worth the anguish. All her cute and adorable went away when Nanny and the Professor went into reruns. She is an actress and can put on the vulnerable wounded bird without any effort. If she is so worried about Monty, why is she going to Amsterdam?
Good question! Taking an addict in Amsterdam is like bringing someone with a gambling problem to Vegas…
I love how Brandi gets all excited that they can smoke pot in Amsterdam. You can smoke it in California, too you dumb ass.
well, in cali u r supposed to have a medical marijuana card. i saw people smoking pot openly in amsterdam. here i only see that at a concert w no cops around.
In the First Look, Kim certainly goes ape shit pretty quickly. I do see her point though about everyone talking about her sobriety — behind her back, to her face, etc. Sounds like there was also something related to Harry clearly being talked about frequently behind Lisa’s back. So, if Kim brings it up on camera, how is that different? Yes, Harry’s not on the show. Hasn’t misbehaved on camera. I get that. I also get Kim’s twisted logic that if her shit gets called out on camera, than the shit of others should be called out too.
Just wish Kim wasn’t so vicious about it. Eileen was right about that. Never nice to see someone attack someone else like that.
And, I did chuckle when Kim told Lisa to eat a piece of bread. Seriously, Lisa is so tiny, I think a piece of bread might do her well.
She’s an addict!
I know one thing for sure, Andy Cohen better put on his Spanx and man the F up for this reunion. I hope they’re all gunning for Kim and Brandi the same way they were for Lisa V. last year.
Now that Kim is speaking her mind and not holding things in AND calling those DEFLECTING women out, she will STAY sober…. TEAM KIM all the way.
See? even belligerent addicts have fans. Another reason for throwing in the towel on homo sapiens. Way to many fuck ups contributing to the gene pool.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT, I guess you weren’t aware that speaking your mind and not holding things in cures addiction. Who knew?
Is “Yada Yada Yada” anything like “Blah Blah Blah”?
Methinks it is.
Hi Kim!
Problem is, Yada, it appears Kim is NOT calling out Lisa Rinna, but went after her husband, who is not involved. Kim’s own actions in the limo with Rinna precipitated Lisa Rinna’s response. Kim is acting like a cornered animal at this point.
Gillette. I had nightmares last night. You were in it! I never “saw you” you were running for a political office and the bad guy in the dream was campaigning for you. WTF? It was a mix of my two biggest anxieties of late, a certain personal relationship, and global politics.
If it weren’t so scary it would be funny. I have no idea how you got selected for the role of the politician! I haven’t had a lot of personal interaction with you. I think I just like the name. lol.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Was my political theme song
“Gilette, the best a man can get”?
LOL maybe. 🙂 It was a scary assed nightmare. I hope you didn’t win the stupid election.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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First Executive Order by President Gilette:
Recapping The Walking Dead by Tamara Tattles
I’m sorry, Obama used up all of the available executive orders for all time during the end of his presidency.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kyle has a husband, 4 kids and a business so there is no way she can be there for Kim 24/7. This is aside from the fact that it is not her responsibility. That is why addicts have AA and a sponsor. Why isnt Kim calling her sponsor at 2 AM instead of Brandi Ganville? Does she even have one?
Kim is following her own individualized treatment plan for “recovery” as well as her own individualized definition of “sobriety”. In Kim’s world, an addict taking prescription meds prescribed to someone else is perfectly fine to deal with “the pain, so much pain”.
I thought Lisa Rinna had the filler removed from her lips? That gif certainly looks like two big fake filled slabs to me!