Okay the jury has lost their damn mind. Rumor has it that one of the sitting jurors wants to trade places with an alternate juror. As you recall when Juror #2 was drawn as an alternate, she cried all the way to her car. Well, today one of the jurors who is currently deliberating has asked the judge if they can trade places!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW! Now in a normal universe this would never be allowed. But this is Judge Stephens we are talking about here. So stay tuned.
But wait there is more…
Apparently, the jury is asking for a written copy of instructions. It is unclear for what. I recall one trial I covered where the were not allowed to have a written copy of the jury instructions. Was that Zimmerman? I forget. I think it is stupid when courts do that. I seem to recall every time the jury had a question regarding jury instructions, they had to march out into court and the judge would read the relevant section of the lengthy instructions.
And finally, it is also rumored that Jodi wants to talk to Nurmi in person. Not sure what that is about. Maybe she is regretting not giving an allocution to the jury? Too late now. When a judge asks you if you are on drugs after you make a decision, that is a clear indication you should reconsider your decision. I doubt that even in Arizona they will let Jodi allocate now.
Anyway. Nurmi is on the way. Wait scratch that Juan, Willmott and Nurmi are on speaker phone. Jodi is being brought into court. The jury has questions. Jodi is brought into court in stripes and shackles.
1) The jury wants to know if they can have a working lunch. Yes they can. This is a good sign like they are making progress.
2) Can the look at their notes “out of session”? No. Not sure what the mean by that. Do they want to take them home? Take them on a smoke break? Just read them while waiting for other to return from a break? Clarified: they wanted to look at notes while on break without all members present. They can’t do that.
3) They asked for a list of exhibits. They will be given a “redacted list” as agreed upon by attorneys. Juan is coming to review redacted list before the judge sends it and her hand written answers to jury.
Jodi is sent back to the holding cell.)
Nothing was asked about swapping jurors. That was probably just a rumor. I don’t see how anyone would know if that was happening. Or it is happening and Judge Stephens is just going to tell them now. I have a feeling it’s the former though. Even making that request would cause problems because it would indicate that alternate Juror #2 was communication about the trial with someone who is deliberating. That would be a clusterfuck. Let’s assume that whole thing was just a rumor.
Story developing …. but this is good news. Jurors will work through lunch means they may be trying to bang it out today! I would be surprised but it could happen. Juan is already there reviewing the exhibit list. The jury took a 15 minute morning break.
Clusterfuck is right! Lord! I just want this thing over with so this poor family can get on with their lives. Is that even possible? I just know my heart breaks for them. I’m betting the tax payers of AZ want this shit over with too. Tamara thanks for updating on this case.
As a native of Phoenix of course we want it done. We also know that the death penalty phase of a case often takes longer than the trial. Not sure how other states handle the death penalty part of the trial.
Wilmott AND Dela Rosa just brought Jodi street clothes. Speculation it could be a verdict. Because why if they are just dropping them off for the verdict whenever would it take both of them to do that?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Where;s the list of jury questions, that were concealed from our right to know what these lizards at law, are conspiring to keep from the superiority of the appellate system…???
HI EDGARRRRRRRRRRR! xo ~tt
The “poor family,” is so demented, that Sasquatch, bigfoot, standing in wet blood, who was, the likely killer, is being shielded, by their obsession, to blame Jodi Arias. There were four people, minimum, at the kill site, as proven, by. the States,’ own evidence, and, the claim that she dropped the camera, is evidence eniough, that, she must have been,the one, using it, and, took pictures of three people; Sasquatch, bigfoot, boot print, in wet blood, Travis, the black sock small person, and, the camera person. Surely you third grade Nobel laureates, can count all the way, up to four, and, of those proven to have been there, which one had the horsepower, to take, Travis, down, without, shooting him, first…??? You, guiessed it, the bigfoot, ninja…. and, I have submitted, along with others of the common sense, crowd, dozens of other reasonable doubts, all, of which, were concealed from the process; to be ruled upon by something more substantive than, the, substandard, inferior court system…. See what a three million dollar bribe can do, for your defense, to see to it that political careers, are more important, than the lives of obviously, innocent, girls. …Edgrrr…….
You mean, get over their obsession, to end this charade, while, the only one of the four minimum, at the kill site, who could have taken, Travis, down, in one minute and fifth six seconds, was the killer, whose bootprint, in wet blood, was photographed, by, Jodi, before, she dropped the camera, after photographing the wet blood bootprint, and, the black sock, feet, from a distance, too far from either of the two, intruders…..to have ” had no part in it;” unless, before dropping the camera, the Spaz; Sir Hoaxalot, could prove it was a magic camera, that could take pictures, all by itself….and, be used as a weapon, able to be deadly….. …Edgrrr…
And, in addition; as to, the recorded, time stamps, on the photos, of, a combined, one minute and, fifty eight seconds, try to imagine the perjurial antics at law, of, the spastic prosecutor, proving, that, by lining up the time sequencies, that, within, one time duration, between any two, points, a girl, would be the logical choice, to have executed, Travis, the martial arts, kickboxer, weight lifter, school wrestler; weighing in at nearly a hundred pounds advantage, fighing for his life… and, try to imagine that, there were no people, on the other ends of the photoed, boot, and sock, feet; of course, proving, the two masked Ninja account…. And, try to imagine why, the socalled, defense, should be, notified, midtrial, that, they are getting three million dollars, if, not, meant to be a bribe, to throw the fight; accepted, exactly, as such, by, trying to keep it from the jury, and, the accused…lest, it affect the lie-yer / client, relationship…. Duh; ya s’pose….???? Edgrrr…
Trere is no reason for them to get on with their lives, considering that their obsessional delusion to let the killer skate, while, Jodi, takes the rap, while the Arias Bias Virus, rages, in their paltry, minds, the likes of the A-Clan, slinks away; leaving the real killer, to go free…. Snidely…. Edgrrr…
WOW ! Up until the very last second this trial just has to have every ounce of drama possible.
Not even; this soap opera, conspired to conceal, any crumb, for an appellate review, to sweep up. Of dozens of reasonable doubts, proofs, of innocense and, even a recant of the lies, at law, perjuries, and, 180 degree about faced confession, by the prostitutor, of, lying to get an interstate kidnapping, under color of law, still, that, drama, was not, played, out…. Edgrrr….
In addition, neither was the Bishop, hiding behing quasireligious “privilege,” enacted……nor was the fact that these alleged, “your honors,” charged with the brains, and, integrity, to bring their iota of common sense to the job., even when the Spaz, recants the perjury, that facillitated the at law, kidnapping, of another States,” citizen, while concealing that forensics proved from the gitgo, that Jodi, did not, fire a gun, and, therefore, Olive Oyl could not, beat up on, Bluto, withoiut, shooting him, first… and, of the four, at the kill site, only one had the horsepower to nearly, decapitate, Travis, and the proof of that attendance, was the bigfoot, ninja, bootprint, in wet, not, dried, blood….. yet, the lizards at law, arrest, the only one, with no motive, and, no such capability, to, overpower Travis; a wrestler, weightlifter, martial arts, kickboxer, weighing in at nearly a hundred pounds advantage, fighting for his life,,, This means, that, the killer [s] aretill on the lam; covered by the criminality of the three stooges, who concealed exculpatory evidence, committed perjury, then, never even bothered to recant their lies at law; while, watching with impunity, as the spastic prostitutor, confessed after years of embezzling, Jodis,’ life, that, the gunshot, had nothing to do with the killing, cause of death; known all along by the Spaz, yet, all three stooges, perjured, otherwise, despite the forensics they were concealing; only, to be ratted out, by the Spaz, who recanted, to do, his prostitution, in reverse, of the lies at law, of which, he scammed a kidnapping, at law… Where’s the motion to dismiss, based upon his admission of perjury….??? Where’s the arrest for conswpiracy, for each of the contradictory, lies at law, each of the three stooges, committed perjuries to ply their extortion…??? Where is the petition, to the governors, who would have been required by law, to rescind, the extradition warrant, after the prostitutors,’ admission of perjury….??? Due propcess, USSR united states socialistic republic, style, is of course, always, due…. Edgrrr…
I predict a verdict will be reached within the next 2 hours. Why? Because I need to recharge the battery on my tablet.
TT, someone we both follow and is a good source on Twitter Said that’ it wasn’t a rumor about juror #2. It was discussed in open court and spectators heard it!
Thanks ! It seemed very believable at first but then nothing I read said anything was actually said in open court. I think if it really happened it would be a BIG DEAL. UNLESS, Jury #2 just showed up again asking to deliberate.
There is something really wrong with juror #2 for being that attached. Really good thing she was let go.
I know. I think she should be removed as an alternate. I think if they need an alternate they need to go for the man.
We can expect a book from Juror #2
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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How would you feel if you LITERALLY gave up days of your life? MONTHS? Hour after hour sitting through molasses testimony and side bar after side bar, and then at the last minute – – THE last minute – you’re told to just go home?
I would feel frustrated. I would not make a huge dramatic scene, leave the courtroom crying and then show back up the next day begging the judge to change her mind. I’d write a long blog about it all after the verdict. I’d go on with my life to face the next disappointment in life. Life if full of disappointments. The good news is there is always another huge disappointment right around the corner. If there is anything in the world that can be counted on is that you are going to be disappointed in the world frequently. No need to give one disappointment undue importance. THAT is crazy.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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The longer the jury takes and the more questions they ask, the more likely to come back with a verdict of LWOP
Wait why would that indicate the jurors are communicating with one another or am I missing something? Because she specifically asked for #2 and not just “replace me with one of the alternates”? Maybe it’s because she knew she was upset thus would like to be there?
Jesus I hope these people don’t fuck it all up.
The deliberating juror isn’t asking to be released from the case. She is asking to trade places, that is be an alternate so #2 can deliberate. The jurors were not allowed to talk about the case until the 12 got to the jury room. At that point #2 could not talk to other jurors anymore. They deliberated for 3 plus hours yesterday. And now suddenly today she wants to “trade places”? The time to ask for that (and it still would not have been granted) but if you are dumb enough to think it might you ask when alternates are being selected.
Wow. Deliberating juror asking to switch with#2 is extremely codependent. Talk about not taking the job seriously.
The hoax of a trial, empowered, the delusion, that, the jury, could play, prosecutor, deliberately, extending the long arm of organized crime at law; as if, the jurors, then, essentially, had, not, chosen sides, with, the States,’ victim, having, not a prayer in hell… placing her in double jeopardy, by any other name; two trials; one, going one direction, then the prostitutorial, repudiation of his three stooges, lies at law, then, another soap opera, recant, heading thev opposite, direction, as if the spastic soap star, could possibly be credible, whiole perjuring the process, his lies at law, used to scam, two governors, into, interstate kidnapping, under color of law., then, confessing the need to reverse, format; negating, the legality, he embezzled, along with the ME, and, the defective detective; three stooges, all, entranced by the big star in the sky, as if all their epiphanies, aligned, en masse; forward, and, , backward, without a bleat from the Sheeple. Baaaaa…. Edgrrr….. Hello, Tamara…..Tomorrow, the Sheeple, will wake up from the hypnonauseating coma, the carnival act, Spaz, induced them into…. Today; just another obstruction of justice.; in Wonderland, Arizona…….. Who would have believed that the fright to a speedy public trial, could get duped into seven years, of, hocus pocus, sleight of mind senility , at , law…. Grrr…
Jodi in prison stripes and chains, finally!
HLN is reporting that one of the jurors has brought a slow-cooker crock pot with them. Nacho fondue anyone?
Maybe pot luck tomorrow? I predict several tuna casseroles…
Yeah I was coming over her to post about the crock pot. I was so focused on the crock of shit I forgot the crock pot.
OMG! OMG! Jinkasauraus IS at the COURT HOUSE!!!!!!
HLN IS COVERING VERDICT WATCH!!!
Any updates? HLN has is broadcasting Forensic Files until Nancy Grace starts.
Looks like the lawyers are leaving and nothing is going to happen tonight. HOWEVER. Stephen and Tanisha are still there…
I’m gonna try to get a blog done and still keep an eye on it.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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A cauldron, it be…… arrrrrgggghhhh….. Edgrrr….
They should give Jodi her original wish.
If, she was actually guilty, and, not, pandering to all you misfits, who’ve let the spastic prostitutor, get away with, confessing to the perjuries, with which, the three stooges, scammed an interstate kidnapping, at law; only, to conceal exculpatory evidence for years, then, to, repudiate his orchestrated, lies at law, into, confession of perjury, so as to sleaze off, in the opposite format; as if, no matter how many lies at law, the hypnonauseating, court jester, floats, he’s got to be credible; whatwith, the Arias Bias Virus, he’s already found, guilty; no mstter what….with, all you hypnotricked, losers, claiming to want justice for Travis, by, aiding and abetting, the actual killer; still, on the lam; free as a cockroach, in the Spazs,’ diaper……. Edgrrr…
I think I saw the cockroach playing the 16th hole the other day. 🙂
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Then, there’s the contributory hoax of Wonderland, Arizona, to cull the juror, questions, to see to it that the lizards at laws,’ success, is assured. Where is the preponderence of that prostitutorial hoax; concealed, in questions, the sleazes, at law, didn’t want, asked; and, if not, so, then why were the questions, laundered, by these lizards at law… while, also, keeping them from appellate review……???..Edgrrr…
It’s like a bedtime story from Lewis Carroll himself…
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Has even one of the opportunistic newshounds, bothered to interview, the governors, regarding their continuation of an extradition, after the three stooges, recanted their lies at law, and, continualion of their noncase, which, the governors signed on to, and, continued, even after recantting, their sworn affidavit…. using, concealed evidence, known, all along, for their first soap opera; concealed, and, when it could no longer be concealed, exposed, it, as if, it were new evidence, of which, they got away with, confessing to; as if, it was not evidence, to clear, Jodi, in the first place; again, construed, into, evidence, against, what, was evidence, for; whatwith, having prostituted, forward and backward, as if, no matter which soap operas, the Spaz, and, other two stooges, float, she’s going to be guilty, despite, the facts…………??? Where’s the Federal, supertendency, that, is supposed to have jurisdiction, over interstate extraditions, to, scuttle these Arizona, pirates…..and, free Jodi…. …Edgrrr…
I’m super late to this party but what are the jurors deciding, if she gets the death penalty or life in jail? I only know a little from snippets I’ve read from TT like Jodi is a psycho weirdo who killed her boyfriend who liked porn and the lawyers are incompetent. She has already had a trial to determine she’s guilty, now they are determining her sentence, is that correct?
Yup. Death or lwop are their options.
Being found guilty, based upon perjuries at law, doesn’t mean she did it; so, the use of the word, “guilty,” just encourages the likes of these reptilian illiteratis, to continue their perjuries under color of law….. Edgrrr…How, do I log out, and, change format; do I look like a Martinez, marionette….??? Sniff…. Edgrrr…
So deliberations will not resume until Monday? What am I going to do????
I can’t take the suspense anymore!!!
Get a life aand stop beig a vulture iofdeath it will come right back at you.
You obviously thought I was being serious….. I have a life, thank you very much. Don’t need instructions. Why the personal attack?
I’ve always been wary of the death penalty. Mainly due to the number of innocents convicted and sentenced to death. But if EVER there was a case for the death penalty, it’s this one. . I would have zero problem voting in favor.
What, to you, makes this murder a sort of text book death penalty case? I’m interested in your POV because I think I could be swayed either way.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Pandering to all those voters, requires, the con, at law, of the combined antics, acted out, as if, these conspiratorial clowns, can lie, cheat, and, steal, with, impunity… Edgrrr…
Seems that Jodi is getting her first taste of what her new life is going to be like. She asks to see Nurmi in person, which is totally weird since they don’t care for each other, and he phones it in, literally.
I don’t get juror switch being considered, hell, I don’t understand how it even happens. One of the tweeters said the dismissed juror was going to write a book about the trial and felt that she needed to be on the jury to lend credence to her book. If that’s true, would she even be eligible to be an alternate juror? Please let this jury stay together until the verdict. If an alternate should join the jury, they have to go back to point A and begin to deliberate all over again.
I tried to post my thanks to you, TT, for giving us a place to gather and keeping us up to date in your usual witty way. For some reason, either my computer or your site, wouldn’t let me. So let me do it again, thanks. So many of us were here for the whole original trial that this penalty phase has felt like a separation.
Yeah, I am sort of envious of those that got lives. 🙂 And I miss Edgarrrrrrrr I have no hope of seeing him once sentencing is done.:(
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thanks for your great “Jodi” coverage, TT. Tweets were just too tedious for me to follow – you’ve been the only go-to blog for re-caps. Just wanted to FYI your comment above as I stumbled over HLN / Dr. Drew’s website last night and found Edgarrrrr all over DD’s comment page about Jodi… and I do mean he was all over and over and over it. Lol ! (Just a little tid bit for you – you don’t have to post this) So here’s to the conclusion of this crazy trial and peace to those who have suffered through it. ~ Thanks again, TT.
OMG! I have to go find him and bring him home. He can’t be out without a man sitter wandering the Internet! Thanks for the heads up!
How could anybody forget you, Tamara…. a girl, with a mind of your own…… ??? We’re all so lucky, for your insight incite…. Edgrrr…
You tender little teenies, needn’t miss me; I’m still on the deviated, strawman, bastardization of the issues, fielding the shroom eating, golden plate, pseudoreligionistas, playing their simplemionded games; on whatever site, they’re scurrying away from; heading back to their shrooms….. Edgrrr… Didi, I not, mention that there were four people, minimum, at the kill site, as evidenced by the photos; only, one of which ; Sasquatch; the killer, was able to overpower, Travis; whatwith, being a ninja, martial artist, standing in wet blood, who, whatwith, being the logical choice, killer, did not, call the Gestapo, and, say, “hey, i’m standing here stuck to the floor, with, sticky blood; so, since bigfoot, never called the Nazis, he therefore, was a party to the party, don’tchathink….??? … Grrr…….
At your service, Sunshine…. The thouight police, must be the deviants, who, deviate, the continuity, of the program, with, derailments, and, strawman, non adversarials, to see to it, first of all, that, all our reasonable doubts, were concealed from the lizards at law, condescendig, excuse for, a trial, to see to it that, there are no crumbs left for appellate stompings…and, whose, bright idea is it, that, the net comments, must be entered into, one or another, website, instead, of tying them all together, ….to ensure, continuity….??? Edgrrr…
TT – FYI (I know you don’t like folks to post links) but I was able to go back and find the exact page to Edgarrrrr. I thought you’d want to know he got out of the basement !! 😉 [link clipped]
I found him. He logged in on FB. I am now officially stalking him. lol. His friends on FB are all um, well, they all seem related lol.
I hope he shows up, I think Captain Eel would love him.
Well alright ! When I went back to the page to refresh my skills @ Edgarrr-speak, I realized (eeeks) it was an older post !! My only salvation was staring back @ me with a mustache & top hat. FB ? Lol… Now all is right in our Jodi-World and I can go back to sleep ! ~ Stalk on ! 😉
Youse guys and gals, are too kind…. Edgrrr… Too bad, that a three million dollar, :defense,” bribe, kept, it all, out of the trial transcript, to make dozens of actual issues, subject to, review; trying this noncase, in forward, and, reverse, concealed from th, Federal, lizards, at law, whose, jurisdiction over, interstate kidnappings, under color of law, meet the criteria, of which, the govern mentals, have sworn their sickrid, oaths….. Grrr…
My daughters’, bright idea; the top hat, so, who am I, to argue wiith, a girl….??? …Edgrrr…
I need a graph. Or perhaps a pie chart. Or maybe just a slice of pie.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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A graph, to log the graft, of the perjurial antics of the carnival trick, hypnonauseating, prostitutorial, tapdancer, at law, lizard, doing his, Charlie Chaplin, strobe show, with which to bastardize, the process, while floating contradicting, lies at law; without, a bleat from all the idle idol worshipping dupees, of the lizards at law, reptilian illiterati, mob; there in Wonderland, Arizona…… Baaaa…. …Edgrrr…
Charlie Chaplin would never have a strobe show. Leave Charlie out of this debacle!
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Shurrrr, Charlie, was the master, strober, Sir Jerksalot, emulates, to hypnonauseate, anybody watching his shucking and jiving, carnival act; in lieu of evidence… No offense meant to the memory, of Charlie, and, any affront, is, by, being imitated as the jerky Spazs’ antics at law, pirouette, all over his imaginary, stage….. no less than a penguin in a tutu….. Edgrrr…
Heyyyyy… Where are youse guys; it ain’t over; it’s just beginning; that is, if, the hypnonauseated, ones, emerge from the Spaz’s, carnival act, comas…. as per the wake of, dupees, in foregone, hypnonauseations, under, color of law…. Has anybody, bothered to analyze the carnival act, career , of, Sir Hoaxalot, as he perjures, evidence, for, into evidence against; realizing, he can’t dazzle with dialogue, so, he baffles, with, bullshit, to dupe the hypnonauseated, sheeple, into Gestapo, goosestepping, after his, brainwashings…. Has one juror, emerged from his past, perjurial antics at law, to admit, they’ve been had, by the Spazs’ carnival act, side show….??? Edgrrr… Whut are youse; men or mice; squeek up….. Grrr…
Nary a bleat, out of the Sheeple… Are the hypnonauseated comas wearing off, yet….??? Edgrrr…
Still, no resurection, of the brain dead….. See how, they, are…..??? …Edgrrr…
I see, Edgrrrrrr, people just don’t listen to you! 🙁 Don’t give up the fight.