Edited: Nick Gordon says he did CPR for 15 minutes and regrets he did not get to Krissi earlier.
” Nick Gordon CPR for 10-15min responding officer didn’t take over until EMS came it’s like re living my worst nightmare!!!!
Go take a peek at Nick’s twitter. He does have a point about BB.
Despite there being nothing substantial to report on Bobbi Kristina’s condition, local news continues to run story after story. I get it. People are interested. But do we really need to know every little detail and rumor no matter how inconsequential or accurate? Here are the broad strokes.
On Wednesday two things happened. First, as the three-week point neared, Krissi was prepared to be moved to a long-term care facility. Doctors at Emory performed a tracheostomy on Krissi. This is a common procedure when someone is expected to be on life support a long time. The breathing tube down the throat has a tendency to become a source of infection over time. A hole is cut in the trachea to attach the artificial breathing machine to the patient. It’s easier to keep the area clean. This information became know to the public on Thursday. While I was out running errands I heard the story on the radio. It seems that they also swapped out the feeding tube as well. All of this indicates that Krissi will soon be moved to a long-term care facility.
Also on Wednesday, Nick Gordon’s attorney made the following statement on his behalf, “Nick has been trying, privately; to do everything he can to see Bobbi Kristina cooperatively. He has respected the family’s wishes and for that reason alone has not returned to the hospital and risked a public confrontation. But he desperately wants to be with the one he loves and continues to hope that his request will be granted.”
This brings us to last night. Saturday night Nick began tweeting about the situation a bit between 6 and 7 p.m. First he tweeted, “Let me in the hospital to see my girl and let her hear my voice SHE WILL WAKE UP!!!” Then later he posted “If she hears MY voice let me massage her, play her favorite music I believe it will help. If you ask Bobby anything abt he cannot answer.” In the second tweet he is clear he is trying to let it be know that he knows Krissi better than anyone. Krissi and her father have never had a particularly close relationship.
Shortly after those tweets, Bobby Brown’s attorney issued another statement:
“To address the continued and never ending media requests for comment about Mr. Gordon’s requests to visit Bobbi Kristina, let me be very clear, Mr. Gordon was offered an opportunity to potentially visit Bobbi Kristina and he declined to meet the terms of any possible visit. We are only concerned with individuals that can help Bobbi Kristina and bring resolution to this investigation. Obviously, Mr. Gordon is not as desperate to visit Bobbi Kristina as he wants the world to believe.”
That statement makes it seem as though Bobby Brown wants him to cooperate with the family and give them the details of what occurred on the day she drowned. It would seem as though Nick’s attorney has advised him not to speak about the incident to anyone. Thus, a line has been drawn between father and lover.
Despite the fact that most everyone has gone home except for Bobby Brown, it appears Krissi is being prepared to be left in a facility indefinitely. Bobby Brown’s wife and family are back in L.A. she is pregnant. I believe that Cissy Houston may have gone home. Pat Houston has not been photographed entering or leaving Emory lately. Bobby Brown seems to be making a visit each afternoon for about an hour.
I predicted early on that when the time came that everyone really needed to get back to their lives, that the decision would be made to remove the artificial life support. I never really entertained with the idea that they might just leave her hooked up and all go home. I know some of you suggested that Bobby Brown might do this and I found the suggestion itself rather horrific. But the way things appear now… I’m willing to entertain that she may well be kept alive artificially for nine years until the estate is completely inherited by Krissi and it all goes to Bobby. I really can’t believe I just typed that. I hope that Bobby makes the right decision and removes the machines soon. My feeling is, that if that was his decision, he would have made the call before everyone went back home.
You hit it right on the bullseye regarding the nine year mark.
This whole thing is just too tragic to even comment on. I feel bad for the whole family , even NG (wether he’s responsible or not, there are really no winners here) I thank you TT for keeping us informed, because I refuse to listen to any one else. I really hate this for ANY family wether they have $$ or not it’s just sad.
I couldn’t agree more eg.
Damn that’s sad. Thank you for the updates, TT.
What would it hurt to let Nick visit? I’m sure if she were able to speak for herself she’d want him to at least be able to say goodbye. Are they leaving her at a long term care facility in GA? Does she have one one else except for Nick in GA? If only Whitney could have had one of those Lifetime movie angels show her the future.
I think it’s not that it would hurt, but they’re using it as leverage to get Nick to talk.
They want Nick to talk to the police first, and if I were them, I would to.
Btw I called this thing about BB keeping BK hooked up to inherit the rest of the estate from day 1 – because then when she dies all the money will go to him….at that time many others on here advised that this would not happen and that I had watched to much snapped or ID t.v.
My point was then and still remains when millions are on the line people do this kind of thing – routinely .
Btw Whitney had a provision in the will which will permit the yet to be inherited portion to pay for Bobbie Ks medical care, BB will probably go to court to have that enforced.
Pat was added to help oversee the trust at the request of Cissy.(Cissy went to court to do this..after Whitney died…it is in the public court record )…so Cissy has the ultimate power – but delegates certain calls to Pat.
As I said from day 1, I would be shocked it BB did not have his attorneys go to court from day 1 to make certain that he was awarded emergency medical and financial power of attorney…. btw – even if Pat tried to get it — it would be easy for BB to get that overturned because Pat it not a blood relative – she is related by marriage only. If BK dies before she inherits the balance – the portion yet to be inherited, is split btwn Cissy, Michael (Pats husband), and Whitney’s other brother. The portion already inherited goes to BB and BB only.
I realize that visiting Bobbi is their only bargaining tool with Nick right now and no one knows for sure what happened that day, but it still doesn’t sit well with me. Nick seems to be the person who Bobbi was closest to and she’d probably want him there, but that’s just how I feel.
I agree.
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He ignored her when she was alive… what is nine more years. 🙁
I admit to having that same thought, Fas… I hope we are both terrible people for thinking such a thing could possibly happen and that Bobby does the right thing.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I agree TT. I hope Bobby does the right thing.
Add me to the list of terrible people, please. I’ve had the ugly thought that Bobby Brown may be playing for time, keeping her “alive-ish,” while his lawyers figure out an angle that will wrest control of her estate away from the Houstons and will secure a financially advantageous position for him.
I’m just curious because I’m in Canada and know nothing about the American Medical System.. But wouldn’t that cost a hell of a lot of money to keep her on those machines? I know here in Canada if they know there’s no hope for someone they wont let you keep them alive, but out medical system is different in that way.
Depending on the type of facility they send her to, and the kind of round the clock care she’ll need, the cost could be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. It’s a good bet these three + weeks in the hospital are already well over $200,000. Bobbi Kristina was not the most responsible person, so did she have medical insurance? Insurance will only pay for 30 days in a nursing home, but I’m not sure about medical care once she’s there. Her policy will have a lifetime max which is usually between $1 and $5 million. If she has no insurance then look out.
Actually, the Affordable Care act did away with lifetime limits.
I deleted the post you were replying to ( I think) . Roberta is spewing a lot of misinformation and needs to read the commenting rules. Especially #10
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It is a lot more than that. One 3 day hospital stay was around $ 37,500. Another 3 day ( including intensive care ) stay was around $ 55,000.
Both hospital stays were in the same year ( 2004 ).
Included that same year was a 17 day stay (5-6 of those days in an induced coma).
Lastly, that same year, I was in the hospital for 10 days ( 5 in intensive care).
So you see, how quickly the cost of the care can add up. And the greater the level of care needed, the greater the cost.
The vegetable farms are not nearly that expense. Not much to do but hook her up and move her around to avoid bed sores and clean the tubes once in a while. A dog is more trouble.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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My mother was at Emory over the summer for 23 days and it cost about 80,000. She was not in ICU, but did have extensive testing and procedures done.
I stand with TT, a long term care facility ( much like a nursing home) doesn’t cost that much a month, A couple or 3 thousand.
@Kemper~ The family has a “hell of a lot of money to keep her on those machines.”
Ahh okay, I was going by another comment somewhere that said Bobby Brown was only worth about 3 million and couldnt understand how he could afford to keep her in that state.. Thank you
I don’t think Whitney had any more than that. I don’t expect Bobby to be paying for anything. If they try to make HIM pay… then his religious principals could suddenly change.
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My mom is in ltc facitity currently and in Kentucky, which is lower priced than most. We pay 6,000 a month for room and board and a semi private room. All other expenses are sometimes covered by insurance. If not. It’s private pay and at their price. Example a box of adult diapers are 55.00 per package. It’s outrageous. So, ltc with all the care she will require will be very expensive I am afraid. God bless her heart and everyone involved My prayers continue for all.
Its not like she doesn’t have the money. I cant think of anything better to use her inheritance from her mother on. If Whitney were alive, she would probably spend every last dime she had on her daughters health care. What’s the alternative? Pull the plug, and let the family fight over her fortune? If Bobby wants to keep her alive for 10 years on life support, its none of our business, and I think its a careless statement to insinuate that Bobby would keep her alive for nine years to inherit her money. That’s how all these ugly rumors start, someone says something outrageous, next thing you know CNN will be reporting as factual news. Untruth, after untruth has been reported from “sources” who are “supposedly” close to the family.
@gemini – please come to the real world where people do that kind of stuff and much worse(including kill for it ) when millions are on the line. The notion that the inheritance was not factored into BB decision is naive – his lawyers looked at Whitneys will with a fine tooth comb and advised BB accordingly….because that is part of what they are paid to do – i.e. advise their client BB on every aspect of the situation at hand from a legal and financial perspective – i.e. who has what legal rights and what are the monetary implications.
SHE’S NOT ALIVE
Gemini, You seem unhappy here. Why don’t you fuck off to someplace else. Thanks.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Wait. What did Gemini do?
Gemini is a twat waffle who is unhappy with the blog.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Why else would he deliberately keep her in a vegetative state for an extended period of time-knowing there is no hope she will ever lead a normal life. I can’t imagine many people would want their lives prolonged in this manner. Fwiw, we’ve watched Bobby for the last 25 plus years-this is not a “nice” caring person we’re talking about.
Just awfully sad.
@Kat0711 technically as in legally – she is still alive because the doctors nor the coroner have declared her officially/legally dead. Recall the teenage girl that was declared brain dead by the doctors and legally dead by the coroner — well that has not happened yet in the case of BK…… and may not happen any time soon …. anyway that other brain dead teenage girl is still hooked at the direction of her Mother
Someone described it perfectly in other comments (on this blog somewhere): It’s like a child on a swing. If the child jumps off the swing, the swing continues to move, even though the child is GONE.
She may still technically be “alive”, but she left a long time ago.
WELL PUT TT!! Thanks for the updates you have made sure we get & what you share is based on facts! As a mom I cannot imagine having to be in this spot & to be helpless!! I have cancer that is incurable so I have had to make sure I had things lined up as to what I would want but I cant allow my mind to think if it were one of my kids! I pray Bobby will be able to see the big picture so he can decide what is best!
Sorry to hear that, mamascott.
Thank you for the update TT. Sad situation all around. There are no winners. I really had hoped it wouldn’t come down to this but it has. I will still pray for BK and for BB to come to his senses. It is what it is. And I will continue to come here for updates because of the factual, no-nonsense way you present the information.
Approximately how much would it cost to keep a person on life support for 9 years?
That’s my question too. A lot of money is one thing but my husband was just recently in a motorcycle accident and that bill alone was 23,547$ and he went home the same day. I’ve been having the talk with each member of my family about a living directive after this story and not one said they wanted to be left in a vegetative state. I’ve also had to make the decision to withdraw care, although it was the hardest thing yet, I can’t imagine now doing anything differently. Miracles happen so I will keep praying.
I have had three brain surgeries since august 2012. My bill for those surgeries and hospital stay, treatment etc. was over 3.5 million dollars. I will never ever see that kind of cash.
From a story on heiress Martha “Sunny” Von Bulow who spent 28 YEARS in a coma. Notice how expensive this was in 1981 – but she was in a world class facility with round the clock private nurses:
s-afte_n_148968.html”Her doctor testified that the cost of maintaining her was $375,000 the first year, 1981.
No figures were available for the years that followed, but by the early 1990s, room charges were up to about $1,500 a day _ $547,000 a year _ plus $200,000 to $300,000 for round-the-clock private nursing.”
Since you both addressed it, it would cost probably millions. And for those of you who can, get the DNR or health directive, even if you’re young. Make your choices known to friends and family.
If three people ask, can we get a more accurate guesstimate?
Krissi if she is ruled to be “alive” will get her next installment at either 25 or 26. I want to say 26 five years after the first one. That will be 6% of whatever is left. Then at 30 she gets the remainder. Estimates on the estate range from 2-20 million. These are about as accurate as those stupid “net worth” sites. Prior to her death, Whitney’s drug use was worse and this was attributed to her being “broke.” I would estimate the 2 million is a closer figure than 20 million.
Kemper, There is an ongoing case where a teen’s parents have kept her on support for over a year. There is usually a court battle. This one was won. Usually they are not.
Terri Schiavo was kept alive for around ten years and her vegetative state was on the news forever. I would be furious if I was kept around and TELEVISED TO THE WORLD. Ugh.
He’s a link for you. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/jahi-mcmaths-family-hope-year/story?id=27564470
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Ballpark: approximately between 300, 000- 450,000 per year. The estate was reportedly between 12-20 million. Therefore, there is enough money to last many years. I heard that if Kristina does not recover , what money is left goes to Cissy and Whitney’s brothers. If this is true, Bobby’s actions cannot be motivated by counting on money from the estate. Call me a dope but I think he is, finally, trying to be a loving father. Will he ever be able to forgive himself for what his and Whitney’s neglect and profligacy have wrought?
@Dietrich Buxtehude – you are incorrect BB is the SOLE heir of any money BK already inherited and what she ages into inheriting in the future …so if she ages into inheriting 100% of the trust before he takes her off life support – then BB and BB ALONE will inherit the money… If she dies BEFORE aging into inheriting 100% of the trust, then the inherited portion goes to BB and the balance is split btwn the 3 you named …so yes BB has a clear and very real opportunity to be advantaged financially by keeping BK on life support… and letting her age into inheriting 100% of the trust.
You’re not just a dope, you are a dope with no understanding of the will.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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wow…very sad. Do you have inside info about Bobby wanting Nick to give them info they haven’t gotten yet before he will allow him in to see BK? I mean, if they really think Nick is responsible for her condition, would they let him in to see her at all? I wouldn’t.
Also, I have read that BK is not brain dead-do you know if that’s true? I thought the use of a ventilator meant that life could not be sustained without artificial means.
Lastly, what happens to the inheritence if Bobbi Kristina dies before the end of the 9 years?
I had a sister who had to be taken off life support back in 1976. Very very sad and hard to know what to do-especially back then when all this technology was new. There is no comfort at all to be had staring at someone so young who looks peacefully asleep, while doctors tell you there’s “no hope” and that the person you knew is “already dead.” But if there’s anything worse, I think it would be keeping someone on those machines for NINE YEARS.
No inside information. Just that the family wants answers as to what happened the day she drowned. Nick and the other guy have not been forthcoming.
She’s brain dead.
If the let her go now, I believe the money is split between Pat, Whitney’s brothers and Bobby. I believe Pat is an executor on the will. It’s been a while since I read it.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Also regarding Whitney’s estate, though she was a celebrated performer, she did not do much, if any, of the artistry that allows singers to make money into perpetuity. She did not write or produce her songs and I’m pretty sure she didn’t own her catalog. In fact, in one of the interviews after her death, it was said that her final comeback was in part because she needed the money. So the money that we’re thinking she and now BK had, is noting like the reality.
Yes, the “estate” is grossly exaggerated in the media.
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Im going to be really crass and ask who HAS to pay for her care? I guess a medical facility does not have the right to pull the plug if the NOK wants the plug to stay plugged in, right? Does the NOK have to pay? Does Bobby brown have a pot to piss in, himself? So…do taxpayers/hospital payers/insurance payers have to absorb this cost that the hospitals will have to absorb because they can’t get paid and they can’t let her die?
The hospital will take whatever money they can get from Krissi’s estate. If they can get it. I imagine Pat has power of atty and is moving all of the money someplace Nick can’t get to and evicting him. Because Pat has control of the estate as executor, she probably got Bobbi Kriss some health insurance. Krissi has gone to the hospital a lot (previous attempts) so I imagine Pat would get her insurance. Insurance will pay for awhile. Then there will be a court battle about pulling the plug. Team Houston will be for it, Bobby will be against it. Hopefully HLN will carry it.
I don’t know what NOK is. If it’s North Korea, they have no financial obligation I am aware of.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Next of kin?
NOK=next of kin?
Thanks TT… I was wondering who paid as well.
Yeah. My aunt just had hospice care at a void nursing home for the last few months of her life and it was also $11,000 a month.
My point with this is, I don’t care much about these blundering fuckups (all the families involved). The kid WANTED to die, right? Ok yip away that it’s a big muh-der plot. Still, it’s a done deal. There is no possible chance ever that she will get any better. If I am in any way absorbing the cost for these idiots’ shenanigans, I’m onna be PISSED. The poor hospital. They probably have to pay out the ass for security so these chimps can perform their little circus and poo flinging matches. And I’m betting these cheap ass low rent nothing’s aren’t paying them a dime. Just like that farce of a fucking funeral where the whole world had to stop so a rundown crackhead could be planted. Covered live on CNN. Jesus fixem ( so they can’t breed).
Ooh you know what would be cool? If this was all because she is pregnant. Let’s go with that. How long till tmz tweets it?
The circus tents have all been packed the only one left is Bobby, who I think will shove her somewhere and go home. He has a new kid coming in a couple of months. Wanna bet that he names her after Bobbi Kristina in some way? Out with the old in with the new…
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh god. Nothing made my stomach turn about this mess until you mentioned possibly naming the baby after Bobbi Kristina.
Hope this shows up in the correct space. Went to school with a boy who was given the same name as his dead brother. Brother died while playing in the grandmothers garage. Parents divorced he remarried and names his son the exact same name right down to the 3rd. Talk about fucked up.
That is so freaking creepy Kendra! Did they force all the OG’s hobbies and food likes and dislikes on the replacement?
My friend who was adopted was named after the baby her parents had lost. Her first name is that baby’s middle name, and then she shares her middle name with her mom.
Kkarl I actually think that’s very sweet and loving. It ties the adoptee to the family which they would only do to show how much they love him. And by choosing the baby’s middle name instead of the first it shows they don’t see him as a carbon copy replacement. What a lucky person your friend is!
I would say next of kin
So incredibly sad…and no easy decision to make here.
Well, long term facility is not good news. However, I really want to believe (and I pray I’m right) that this move is more about Bobby being in denial/trying to hang on to a single, tenuous thread of hope rather than him wanting to get all the money because that *is* sickening.
By the way, do we know for a fact that Bobbi Kristina doesn’t have a will? I mean, it’s a safe assumption given her age (young people never think about the possibility of dying) and in that case it would be Bobby, as her closest relative, inheriting. But given all the trust & estate attorneys she’s probably dealt with since her mother’s death, one of them could have convinced her to draw up a will. In that case, it isn’t necessarily Bobby who gets the money no matter how long she’s in long-term care.
They want Nick to talk to the police first, and if I were them, I would to.
Btw I called this thing about BB keeping BK hooked up to inherit the rest of the estate from day 1 – because then when she dies all the money will go to him….at that time many others on here advised that this would not happen and that I had watched to much snapped or ID t.v.
My point was then and still remains when millions are on the line people do this kind of thing – routinely .
Btw Whitney had a provision in the will which will permit the yet to be inherited portion to pay for Bobbie Ks medical care, BB will probably go to court to have that enforced.
Pat was added to help oversee the trust at the request of Cissy.(Cissy went to court to do this..after Whitney died…it is in the public court record )…so Cissy has the ultimate power – but delegates certain calls to Pat.
As I said from day 1, I would be shocked it BB did not have his attorneys go to court from day 1 to make certain that he was awarded emergency medical and financial power of attorney…. btw – even if Pat tried to get it — it would be easy for BB to get that overturned because Pat it not a blood relative – she is related by marriage only. If BK dies before she inherits the balance – the portion yet to be inherited, is split btwn Cissy, Michael (Pats husband), and Whitney’s other brother. The portion already inherited goes to BB and BB only.
Thanks for the info.
Sadly it is looking like you were right from the start.
UR welcome …..btw I intended to say Gary is Pats husband…. He Michael and Cissy will inherit what BK does not inherit before she dies.
I’m sure Bobby understand the ramifications of a trach and feeding tube. He’s in for the long haul.
Yup. And this is exactly what so many people do to loved ones. I worked in a nursing home for a short time and unfortunately this kinda thing happens often. Keep the family member alive with no quality if life to rack in that money.
I think it’s down to the money now, too. Ugh…
Thank you TT for the update! My heart goes out to this child and her family.
Tamara that is just horrific . I had to make the decision last year to take my partner off life support after 3 days. Trust me the doctors do brain scans and after 3 days they know if someone will recover. This is not about hope this is about money
So sorry to hear that Travis. This is horrific. I hope the information is wrong that about Bobby’s decisions, but ….
IDGI…if these people are so religious and are waiting for a miracle from God, then why don’t they take her off the machines? Certainly if God is going to give them a miracle he will give them one with her off the life support. Either they believe or they don’t . If it is her time to go, then she will go. If not, she won’t. They can keep her on life support forever but it won’t change the outcome. Either they trust in their God or they don’t. I have always looked at these matters like someone is trying to over ride God’s plan. I understand it in the beginning. It is so hard to let a loved one go…but face it, if she is brain dead then she is already gone. I believe if there was going to be a different outcome from God, we would have already seen it.
@riley their is one variable missing from your equation the financial motive….after all money and certainly millions of dollars of money… has te tendency to make people do all kinds of things…. that they may not otherwise do……..plus also keep in mind the longer BK stays on life support the bigger the estate gets via records sales,publishing rights and investments that will grow over the years …..bottom line the estate could really balloon while BK ages into inheriting 100% of the estate.
Whitney was close to broke when she passed. As someone above pointed out she did not write her own music, so she would not have any money from her music catalog, other then residuals from her music sales and films. Most recording artists make the majority of their money from touring. At most there is probably somewhere between 3 & 5 million dollars left, if that.That alone would not pay for 9 years of care. If she is transferred to a long term facility like TT thinks, ins. will most likely pay for 30 days, then she is on her own. I just don’t see a massive financial benefit to anyone for keeping her alive.
I agree with everything you said, Laws. But Bobby has no idea how much money is in the estate, and neither do we….
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@ Lawstangle — Whitney did not have a “new artist” contract her royalties from records sales, real estate holdings and other investments are indeed in the millions and those earnings are being added to as time passes . So yes she has an estate in the millions that is growing….
You equation in terms of the cost of care fails to factor in an important fact – the cost of care is not paid up front for all those years… and the money on hand in the estate will continue to get bigger from record sale royalties, sale of memorabilia that includes hear likeness and financial investment –
trust and believe like many other celebrities of her stature – your earning days do not stop just because you died….
You can stick your head in the sand about the financial motive…. but trust me it is there …. and BB lawyers have hired the requested advisers – on his behalf to manage the money BK has already inherited and to keep a watchful eye on what she stands to inherit in the future….and they have projected what BB stands to inherit and the future earnings on the inheritance if BK forgoes being declared did long enough to inherent 100% of the trust.
Realistically, WH should have had a provision in the will that accounted for this – i.e. if you have a provision to let her get access to money early to pay for medical care – why not finish that thought –i.e. if she needs medical care – continues to live/but remains medically incapacited – and she does not survive after inheriting the full trust – who do you want the money to go to — and I am fairly confident that her answer would have been to split it between my Mother and 2 brothers or who ever is left amongst the 3 of them.(as she directed this for the money BK stands to inherit – if she dies prior to inheriting 100%) – she should have had a provision for what happens if all of them are dead – i.e. a charity she would want the money to go to
BB has no idea of the amount of the estate.
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@ Tamara – At this point BB likely has her medical and legal/financial power of attorney and as such – he has the right to obtain that info. He also has an additional level of right to request an accounting of the trust account – because it contains a provision to pay for her medical care… and he would need that info to determine how he wishes to proceed – i.e. given the funds available he will decide to do A or B or C —…bottom line it will be easy for his lawyers to petition the court and receive permission to access the trust info because of all of the above mentioned
Hmmm good point. He looked and determined it was enough to mess with keeping her alive for just under a decade.
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This toucan person is getting on my nerves trying to take some fucking credit for saying something that dozens of people have said. And jumping with glee over this retarded death play. Give it a rest, ghoul.
No shit Teecee!
@teecee66 I am happy to clarify with respect to your clear misunderstanding…..I am taking credit for what I said from day 1 – and what many others on this board claimed was a case of hysterics/2much snapped/2much ID t.v………. I was pretty much ALONE – when I thought and posted this on day 1 – on one of the earliest threads… and now… some of these same folks have caught up to my thought process …. hopefully that clarifies the matter for you
Nobody cares what anyone said three weeks ago. Go enter a hot dog eating contest so you can win a medal to proudly show off. This is just an Internet blog. An awesome one, but the only opinion that matters is the owner of the blog. We are all just nameless nobodies having fun. If you need to be respected go out and find real life humans you can look in the eye.
You’re a dick. And you are wrong. And kind of an idiot if you think this child is of any “stature”. Unless shiftless loser is a stature.
All said, it’s kind of hard to follow because you write like apollo Nida. Trying to sound articulate, but just being generally confusing.
Ugh. What an awful thing to be proud of and gloat about. That is more disgusting to me than the possible motive of money. Shame on you.
Amen, @teecee! I can’t even read thru 2cansay’s entire replies. After the first paragraph, I’m done. He/she needs his/her own blog :/
And @kat, I too see the need for recognition… from strangers. Odd.
Whatever her situation is, it’s Bobby Brown’s decision to do whatever he wants because that’s HIS daughter. She’s not yours, she’s not mine, she’s his. It doesn’t matter what you think. Whether what he’s doing is right or wrong, it’s still his decision and his alone. Just because you all feel he’s had enough time and should let her die, doesn’t mean he should. He SHOULD do whatever he wants to do and whenever he wants to do it. As a matter of fact, all he asked for from the public were prayers. Nothing more and nothing less
Bull I lived through this process. The doctors know she only has enough brain activity to stay alive but she will never function at any level. This is inhumane. Is he with her right now? Right
@travis – this is 100% BB decision …. and like someone posted before – he will pull the plug when is heart tells his brain that it is o.k. to do so
I agree. Also a lot of people that have been in induced comas said that they had horrible, frightening dreams while under.
I didn’t experience any while in an induced coma fortunately.
But I worry that might be happening to BK.
If you don’t believe me about the above, all you have to do is look up.
In response to Saundra (and I realize that having nightmares while in a coma has been brought up before because I commented on it, but afterwards it got me thinking)…
The people who were in comas who experienced nightmares were not brain dead. Otherwise we wouldn’t have heard about it. I would think (hope) that someone who is brain dead is incapable of having nightmares?
oops intended to use there not their 🙂
But Bobbi Kristina was her own person, a thinking, feeling being. Would she want to live like this? Where is her right to dignity? If she were trying to commit suicide – and this may never be know – she wanted to leave this life, not be caught up in some nightmare netherworld. Patients have rights too. It shouldn’t be all about what some relative — in this case an estranged father wants. What is in the best interest of the patient?
I would think since BK apparently didnt write a will, or have a DNR, or whatever, she doesn’t, in fact, have rights at this point but BB, as her father, whether good or bad or indifferent, has those rights by default.
He SHOULD let her go. And if he doesn’t the COURTS will help him decide.
You should have a fucking seat.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Actually if BB moves her to NJ, then the courts will not force him to accept the brain dead diagnosis; they permit you keep a brain dead person on life support indefinitely, if you object to the brain dead declaration for religious reasons.
The key is he needs to have her moved to NJ BEFORE she is declared legally dead by a coroner – so she continues to age into inheriting 100% of the estate. Of course, he can still move her after she is declared legally dead but that defeats the purpose – because she will never inherit the remainder of the estate.
As you may recall, this is precisely why the Mother of the teenage girl brain dead moved her from California to New Jersey – i.e. because her Mother can “legally” keep her hooked up to life support indefinitely – even though she has already been declared medically brain dead and legally dead. Unfortunately in that case, the court in CA has already legally affirmed the coroners declaration that she is dead. Her lawyers are trying to get that death declaration overturned but that will be hard to do.
I bet BB will try to avoid the above, by having her moved to NJ before she is declared dead by a coroner in GA, as this will be one way of increasing the likelihood that she will continue to age into the estate while on life support..
And conveniently for BB he can claim that he is taking her to her home state to be near her Grandmother and leave Cissy to check on her.
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@ Tamara – yes that is very good point – I think you are correct about BB pulling the near her Grandmother card.
I think the only way BB MAY take her off life support early, will be if Cissy and the Brothers agree in writing/legally to a settlement which provides that they split ALL of the current estate contents and the future earnings from royalties etc… 4 ways – meaning BB gets 25% of the value of the estate as soon as BK dies and 25% of all future earning as they come in . After all that beats having to wait 9 years for the money….. when you could have the money pretty much now – if Cissy and the brothers agree to the settlement as articulated above (because she will die shortly after life support is removed)
TT, do you think it will get to a court fight? I certainly hope someone with sense let’s this child rest and not become a pawn in the game of greed between these two families. Just low-down.
I don’t really know who will have legal standing to take BB to court if he decides to farm her out to the great state of NJ. I suppose that Pat could try to get an attorney to represent BK’s interests….but I really don’t see anyone who can oppose BB in court. Maybe some advocacy group? But they generally turn up to stop someone from pulling the plug.
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Thank you Tamara because this is not a lifetime movie. If bb that convinced she going to recover he would be there. So do not get me wrong as I agonized over letting my baby go and still do. Gone though is gone.
Travis, your partner would not want you to second guess yourself. I have a feeling he considered you the smart one. 😉 When you do, listen to the Frozen soundtrack. :)
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I agree he should, but I’d hazard a guess that the attorneys involved are spinning it in such a way to alleviate a lot of the guilt. Attorneys, financial advisors, etc, aren’t looking at the situation with what’s in BK’s best interest.
Thank you. His brain should connect with his humanity and close this show down. It’s cruel and creepy to abuse her body and serves no legitimate medical purpose. I’m sure Emory physicians explained that they aren’t in the business of storing dead bodies, but Brown has continued with his agenda. Horrifying!
Kyla….”let her die”, she is already dead. Reread what Travis wrote. If she is KEPT ALIVE BY LIFE SUPPORT and is brain dead, then she has no life to live. As Travis said below, it is inhumane. My mother never wanted that but unfortunately had not put it in writing. When she went to the hospital the last time, the doctors knew from her blood gases that she was dying. Even though we knew she did not want to be put on life support we let them do that because we didn’t want to give up. For 5 days she was on life support and the guilt was killing me. And she was going in and out of her coma, so she wasn’t completely gone, but certainly dying and we were being selfish. We finally respected her wishes and let her go with what dignity she had left. I hope with all my heart that she forgave up for not respecting her wishes. What we did was wrong. It was her time to go…as hard as it was for us to accept it. And if BK is being kept alive has anything to do with money from her mother’s estate then that makes all of this more horrible than ever. I don’t care if BB is her father,,,there are a lot worse things than dying. Love her enough to let her go.
Terri Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) for 15 years, while her husband battled his in-laws to pull the plug. He finally won that right, and on autopsy, it was found that Terri’s brain had liquified, so all those vids of her “responding” to relatives were really just Lazarus reflexes. Jahi McMath is (brain) dead. That is dead, with a death certificate. Totally different from PVS. Doubtful Bobbi Kristina is brain dead. Reputable doctors would not operate on a corpse, that is do a trach and feeding tube. She is still in a “medically induced” coma, and if they try to bring her out, she could seizure until she dies. Horrible, nightmare situation.
@Roberta – Jahi was operated on after she was declared brain dead…. recall she had to have a medical procedure to be moved to the long term care location….. so…so much for your theory of a doctor not operating on a brain dead corpse ….just saying 🙂
BK can be brain dead and not pronounced dead. The intubation tube is helping her breath. When they remove it, she will stop breathing and be pronounced dead.
I suspect Bobby is waiting for signs of brain improvement. The responses Bobby may be seeing is giving him hope, sadly such as the case with Jahi McMath. As far as I know, the brain cannot improve from brain dead. Bobby is either truly waiting for a miracle, or as TT suggested, money.
At this point the right thing to do is pull the plug and have whoever gets the money give it all away to charity. It’s the only way it can be done without anyone being accused of any kind of bias.
Aren’t there situations where the hospital can petition to have support removed? I don’t know how much there is left to inherit but the kind of care she is getting is expensive, surely nine years of that will leave very little for anyone to inherit anyway. I wonder if she had been smart enough to sign up for some kind of health insurance.
Wow, if this is all just about money, that’s pretty disgusting. Is it possible she’s pregnant, and they are just using her as an incubator?
This story only gets more sad as the days pass! Tamara, quick ?…and please pardon me as I attempt to make since of Bobbi K’s inheritance. So, if she passes prior to age 30 then does it mean Pat/Houston & fam will automatically gain all of her estate? But, if she expires at age 30….will funds automatically be granted to Bobby Brown? Just wondering about the whole $$ situation because now days that always seem to be what matters most to people at the end of day…..SMH
Oh Damn Cat! That thought never crossed my mind! God I hope not. Plus, with all the talking BB’s family likes to do…that would be a Golden Egg! How sad would that be?
Ps.
Hey Cat
Hey! 🙂
Cat you’re watching too many daytime soaps 😉
I know, right? Bravo has warped my little mind. 🙂
I’m just going to sit here and wait for the day when I can claim that I said it FIRST. Well, no I won’t. That’s just sick. I have no dog in this fight.
Cat, the day you care about being FIRST in the blog comments is the day it’s all over
In addition to the money motive(which I think is real and present in both the mind and decision making of BB) ….Perhaps BB has ALSO been made aware of the case of Steven Thorpe of the UK and is holding out hope that BK will have a comparable outcome…
My eyes popped right out and rolled across the keyboard when you made that “9 years on life support” prediction TT. Then my stomach dropped when you mentioned the new child possibly being named after BK – holy crap.
So is it possible that the executor, Pat maybe?, could simply burn thru the estate in 9 years. And to keep that from happening, Bobby could sue? And they could counter-sue to say he is keeping her on machines to gain the inheritance. Cluster F.
It’s like that young mother of 4 who won 122 million from that Mega Lottery a couple weeks ago. Saw her story and I just sent out a little prayer that she and those kids come out of that kind of money alive.
At the end of the day BK is New Jersey bound – as this is one state where BB can “legally” keep her on life support indefinitely AFTER a brain dead declaration ….. That is the way for BB to make certain BK ages into inheriting 100% of the estate… he can then pull the plug… inherit 100% of BKs estate(which is WH money) AND also continue to keep earning money from WH royalty checks etc…..
Is it a fact Bobby is moving BK to NJ or your supposition?
It not a fact. It’s a supposition based on state laws. It’s an especially compelling one because unlike the brain dread teen who is farmed there, Bobbi K is a home grown New Jersey girl. Now more like the Jersey tomatoes that the Jersey girls, but still he has valid reason to “take her home” conveniently to a state where he can leave her for actually more like 8 years now…
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Well I made the statement earlier on that Bobby Brown would let Bobbi Kristina go when his heart told his brain it was okay. I’m afraid his brain has hardened his heart by convincing it that BK is already gone and what is most important now is the money. The heart can be a fickle organ. Bobbi Kristina is no longer the focus, the almighty dollar is.
@ hannahkingrose thanks for the reminder, about that statement you made; it was profound and wise. I referenced it earlier tonight, but I attributed it to “someone on the board”, because I could not remember the name of the poster. Moving forward I now attribute it to you 🙂
Funny, even though I did not recall that it was you who posted it, I did recall that the person indicated it was something their Mother would say. It sounds like your Mother was a very wise woman.
On another note: even though money is now ruling this decision, it could still come to an end in the near term. I think if BB reaches a settlement with Cissy and the brothers – meaning that they agree to split 100% of the assets CURRENTLY in the estate PLUS future earnings of the estate 4 ways, meaning BB gets 25% of the ENTIRE estate NOW(i.e. after he pulls the plug and BK dies shortly after), and 25% of all FUTURE earnings from royalties etc. , that he will take BK off life support in the near term, instead of waiting nearly a decade for BK to age into inheriting 100% of the
estate (so he can then pull the plug and get the 100% that she just inherited).
For the love of God…. Someone pull this ones plug please!
Hannah,
Going back to the first time that you posted in regards to “Bobby letting Bobbi Kristina go when is heart tells his brain it’s ok.” Have stayed with me. Deeply and profoundly.
From the day you originally posted it, I have yet to be able to let those words go. I want you to know that those are some of the most powerful words that I have ever read or heard. I also remember you speaking of your Mother in that original thread and what a smart lady she also was!
I just wanted to Thank You for those words. They’re something that will stay with and will get me through, when I need them the most.
Damn this got too long and all mushy mushy! However, I felt YOU needed to know. Sometimes, I think we forget how we impact people (Positively/Negatively) with our words.
@KeepingItReality, thank you very much for your kind words. It makes me feel wonderful that some statement I made could have an impact on how another person feels. It came from a place of knowing. Not of actually having to make that same kind of decision as Bobby Brown needs to but to accept with my heart what my brain already knew with regard to the reality that death of a loved one was imminent. My mother was one of the greatest influences in my life and for that I will be forever grateful. I only wish I could be half as insightful and compassionate as she was. I have lost most of the important people in my life with the exception of my husband and sons. I am saying here and now so there can be no mistaking it. I DO NOT WANT TO BE KEPT ALIVE BY ARTIFICIAL MEANS WHEN I HAVE BEEN DEEMED BRAIN DEAD. This has been told to my family and now here so you are also now my witnesses. I chose to be allowed my dignity to move on when the time comes and not to have to leave the decision or the burden to anyone else.
There is no way BB would be able to keep his daughter on life support for 9 years, so that he could inherit the money. Human rights groups and the courts would be all over such a scenario, just like with the Terry Schiavo case. I’m sure his lawyers know this.
@ Elsa – you are 100% incorrect. Check out the laws in New Jersey it is completely legal to do keep someone that is brain dead on life support as long as you want to in that state.
The above is precisely why Jahi McMath the brain dead girl who was ALSO declared legally dead by the coroner in California – remains hooked up to life support in NJ 1 year after being declared legally dead.
You also are ill informed with respect to the Schiavo case – she was on life support much longer then 9 years and the fight about her was about KEEPING her on life support – her husband wanted to pull the plug and her family did not.- he trumped them because of the husband status and pulled the plug.
Actually, the Terri Schiavo case is Bobbi Brown’s dream. She lasted fifteen years before the plug was pulled and Bobbi only has to hope for nine.
I can not stop thinking about what someone said was “liquified”. My stomach keeps turning and it’s such a sad thing to do to someone.
2can, there was no plug to be pulled in the Schiavo case. Just a feeding tube. Admittedly, splitting hairs but if you reference the case at least be accurate.
This is so very sad! I don’t understand why Nick won’t cooperate with the investigation though. I pray for them all!
@lori Check out Nick on twitter today – he is claiming that he spoke to the police … without a lawyer….I think this was probably before he got a lawyer…and that he still has NOT sat down with them for the 2nd interview they requested After he hired a lawyer
Thanks 2canplay.
Ur welcome Lori
No way will BB ever be allowed to keep BK on life support for YEARS, so that as the clock ticks on, he becomes closer and closer to inheriting her money. I should have elaborated on my previous comment. There would be numerous petitions, lawsuits, etc filed by many including her family not to mention watch groups dedicated to quality of life issues for those on life support (which exist to monitor and flag these types of situations which are not uncommon). Plus, can you imagine the backlash/hostility from the public, newspapers etc?
I’m not an expert on the Schiavo case, but I do remember issues were raised in court by a trustee of Terry’s estate as to the husband’s motives for wanting to let her pass away. I only brought this case up as an example of how the courts would be onto such a “strategy” if BB were to go this route…
Personally, my intuition tells me he’s distraught and will make a decision soon to let her go. Amen.
@ Elsa you are 100% incorrect. Terri S was kept on life support for YEARS and it is legal in NJ to keep her on life support indefinitely – which is will he will move her – if need be . Just like Jahi McMath was moved to NJ.
Nobody who files a lawsuit will have legal standing that will trump BB – he is her closes living relative …..Just like in the Terry S case- the husband wanted to pull the plug… her family did not …they lost in court because as her husband he is the closest living relative … and in the case of BK …BB is her closest living relative…
The Terry S case does not make your point it makes my point – which is that the closest living relative calls the shots and it does not matter what the OTHER relatives think or feel – they will loose in court because BB has her medical Power of Attorney (at this point)
Bobby will hire a PR team that will advise the public he is doing this for religious reasons. But at the end of the day even if the public decides to hate BB – per your implication – he will not fold – he has never been one to temper his conduct based on the public. He will be to busy staying focused on all the money he is going to get
Yesterday I went out to lunch with a male friend and to my surprise — when we talked about the possibility that BB might keep BK on life support for 9 years in order for him to be her beneficiary after Whitney’s trust had been distributed — he did not have a problem with it. In fact he said, “if she is brain dead she is already gone so what is the big deal if she is around for the next 9 years?”
The big deal is that (a) the love of money is truly the root of all evil and money changes everything, and (b) everyone should execute a durable power of attorney for health care in regards to your wishes when you are no longer competent to make your own medical decisions.
No, you are 100% missing my point regarding the Schiavo case. We all know the outcome. We all know the husband succeeded with ending his wife’s life. There’s no question that BB has the say. I brought up the Schiavo case because the issue of the husband’s motive was raised by a trustee and subsequently considered by the judge. Obviously, the judge must not have been convinced to rule against the husband. But this was an issue, meaning one would not get away with something like you’re proposing. That is all concerning the Schiavo case.
Secondly, you’re 1000% incorrect in that a court could make the decision to overrule BB, if evidence in the form of doctors’ opinions, medical records, etc was convincing to a judge.
Now really, I have to go.
@ Esla – there is nothing ILLEGAL about BB keeping her hooked to life support to get the money, so there is nothing for a judge to intervene about. It is immoral but it is not illegal.
As you point out about the Schiavo case – the judge did not find merit in the charges raised; as will be the case with BB.
However, the Schiavo case was about wanting to END LIFE – The case of BB is just the opposite – he wants to PROLONG LIFE – there is not a judge in NJ that will force BB to pull the plug prior to the 9 years – no matter what the other family members say. Because they will not be able to PROVE that he is NOT sticking to his religious views.
It is clear you have no knowledge or info about the law in NJ, because if you did you would know that this is the one state that is permitting the BRAIN dead Jahi McMath – who was also declared LEGALLY dead by a coroner – to be maintained on life support INDEFINITELY.
So all BB has to do is move BK to NJ (just as the mother of Jahi moved her to NJ from California) and he will not run into any legal rulings against him – in reference to keeping her on life support for 9 years….because it is perfectly LEGAL to do this in NJ – even if you have been declared brain dead and legally dead…… but in BK’s case she has not been declared legally dead and BB will move her out of Emory Hospital BEFORE they have the opportunity to declare her legally dead.
Im glad the family is taking their time. There’s no rush when it comes to a loved one.
2canplay: Are you an attorney? I bet you are not and here’s why. You are taking high level information regarding 2 cases, information you’ve probably gotten from typical news sources, and extrapolating the outcome of these cases onto the BK case. Any good attorney could delve into the details of a given case, details buried in the stacks and boxes of documents that likely exist, and come up with reasons why that case does or does not apply to the attorney’s case, or why their case is different.
To you the above is known as SPIN. To people like me who litigate cases, it’s known as DISCOVERY.
The law is far more detailed than you seem to be aware of. Your ARMCHAIR legal analysis is way over the top, not to mention NAIVE.
It’s time for you to move on. You’ve been on this thread way too long and won’t consider that you could be incorrect.
Im not going to engage in any more discussion with you because your postings are annoying.
@ Elsa – one again you are 100% incorrect. You really could not possibly be a good attorney and fail to understand the distinctions I am making.
Personally, I doubt that you are a LITIGATING attorney (if you are an attorney at all).
I am telling you what the law permits in NJ. Quite frankly, it is EASY to look up the NJ law online, and discover that I am correct; if you are the lawyer that you claim to be.
Plus the notion (based on your prior posts) that you think quality of life issues factor into this equation – AT ALL – from a LEGAL perspective – causes me to doubt your legal expertise assertions.
The LAW in NJ is very CLEAR – BB does not have to accept a brain dead diagnosis, if he objects for religious reasons – and as such he can keep her on life support indefinitely- END OF STORY.
Bottom line – it is weird that you think a law SPECIFICALLY designed to permit BRAIN DEAD people to be kept on life support INDEFINITELY factors in quality of life issues – given that brain dead people have ZERO quality of life by definition of being BRAIN DEAD
PREACH!
Elsa, “discovery” has nothing to do with researching case law. Discovery has to do with having access to opposing counsel’s evidence. Any ten year old who has watched any case on any TV show would know what discovery is. In what state do you practice law? Or better yet, in what state did you go to law school? I’m thinking the answer to that last question is “baked.”
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Tamara, the word “discovery” is often used in a broader sense than you are referring to. It can mean, as I was using it above, to describe a phase in which letters, notes, emails, etc are sifted through, to see If there is any evidence that can be used to make a case for or against something. I did not say anything about researching case law. That is totally separate. I am assuming a certain baseline of knowledge when I write these posts. I don’t know how you do things on Georgia, but anytime you want to visit my baked office in downtown Chicago I’d be happy to educate you more on this topic.
Elsa, the more you post, the more it’s clear you have not even a passing comprehension of the law. If you are interested in becoming a lawyer, stay in school. It sucks there are no decent live trial shows on TV, but you can catch lots of cases on Youtube. Learn the lingo. It could happen.
I missed the part where this became toucan’s blog and not Tamara’s. Tt, next time you hand the reigns over for someone to answer for you when people are posting TO YOU and not to that toucan person, give us a signal.
I have been out all day. I realize people are annoyed with the Toucan, but he/she seems very focused on this topic and I can’t remember what I had for lunch yesterday let alone the details of a will I read three years ago… so.. whatevs.
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Is there anyone who knows how much the estate is worth? Why wouldnt Bobby know how much it is worth at this point? Nine yrs is a long time to do that to this poor girl without even knowing the amount. If the amt is two to three mil then wouldnt that all be used in 9 yrs?
I don’t know. BK is an adult so BB can’t simply access her information. He will have no POA for her. He will likely get conservatorship and that could give him access to the information. Based on his recent behaviors, I think he has decided there is enough there to make it worth it for him. I find that hard to believe based on Whitney’s public financial problems prior to her death.
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Thanks, TT.
I’m sorry……anyone who would remotely think about keeping their own daughter on life support for 9 years or a prolonged period of time just for the sake of money is deranged. I realize this is a no win situation. There is no good solution. I wouldn’t want to be in BB shoes.
Once she had a trach put in I knew they were looking at long term care. 🙁
@ Sunny Days – Yes, long-term care is the current plan; which I feel is being used as leverage by BB and team to reach a settlement with Cissy and the brothers….
Trust and believe if Cissy and the brothers agree to a settlement that gives BB 25% of ALL of the contents CURRENTLY in the estate AND 25% of all future earnings from royalties etc – then BB will find a new religion and unplug BK ….so he can walk away with the money NOW instead of having to wait YEARS to receive it .
After all, it is highly likely at this point that BB knows exactly what the value of the estate is – i.e. given that the trust contains a provision to pay for the medical care of BK – with the funds in the trust, including the portion that BK has not inherited yet.
Therefore, it would have been very easy for the attorney of BB to go to court and obtain a court order for the financial records which reflect the current state of the trust, so that BB can factor in the “funds available” when determining which options he can pursue for medical care (at least that will be the story they go with – to obtain the financial info about the trust)
The reality is if Cissy and the brothers don’t agree to settle with BB, then eventually BB will likely receive 100% of all of WH future earnings and the ENTIRE contents of the trust (i.e. in about 9 years) and I do not think they want that. Therefore, the lesser of the evils is to settle with BB in the near future.
GO PLAY OUTSIDE!! There are other birds out there for you to play with that resemble your own kind!! This is not what the Internet is supposed to be used for!!! You need your vitamin d!! This is not healthy!!!
Ugh. I hate vultures.
If Pat and Cissy are the executors of the trust there is no legal reason to allow BB to be privy to the content of the trust. BB is not needed for the trust to handle the medical costs.
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Updated post link for those following comments. http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2015/02/22/bobbi-kristina-update-february-22-2015/
Tamara, your two posts above that were addressed to me are typical of you: hurl insults at someone when you can’t come up with anything better to say. Quite transparent and immature. Do you just cut and paste these kinds of remarks?
By the way, the Michael Martin case is an example where a legal guardian’s wishes were not carried out. His wife as legal guardian wanted Feeding tubes removed, but the court said no. I’m bringing this up as an example of court intervention. This case was in Michigan, but there are many others in other states. I’m sure they exist in GA and NJ if one looked for them. Even if BB wanted to keep his daughter alive for 9 years, Whitney’s family could petition the court, and the court would review the case. A determination would be made based upon details of the case. (Toucan, your comments about immoral vs illegal do not apply.).
Again, just because BB could, on the face of things, keep BK alive for 9 years to claim her inheritance, this doesn’t mean it would be allowed to happen. So I predict he will not attempt to go this route.
@ Elsa- you keep citing examples involving ENDING LIFE …this is not the case here BB wants to PROLONG LIFE – at least until the settlement comes—.. any court intervention would need to be based on the APPLICABLE LAWS – there is no applicable law in NJ that forces BB to END THE LIFE – of BK …..not even if she is brain dead and not even if she is declared legally dead……. NJ does not play that. You comment as if you believe the fact that BB will inherit the money, somehow trumps in this case and it does not –
THE LAW TRUMPS – BB religious beliefs are the ONLY factor – i.e. the Houston family would have to prove that his religious beliefs are NOT what he claims they are. That will be nearly impossible to accomplish.
Therefore, short of an intervening financial settlement between BB, Cissy and the Houston brothers — BB is LEGALLY keeping BK hooked up for the long haul —i.e. the YEARS – required to get the money……
No court in NJ is going to ORDER BB to kill/terminate life support for BK – because they do not want him to get the money – there is NOT a legal basis for that type of ruling.
Donald Trumps. 🙂
Way too much misinterpretation and extrapolation in your comments. Firstly, I cited the Martin case as an example to show that BB doesn’t necssarily have complete control over whether or not BK remains on some kind of life support. The court could intervene. That is all I’m trying to say, no more, no less.
The NJ law that you referred to previously is the one I’ve taken the excerpt from (see below). You brought it up so I’m responding to your rationalization that this law could be used as a way to keep her alive. I didn’t say anything about a basis for ending her life (or keeping it going).
Also, I never said anything about whether or not I think he would get the money. I don’t know what you’re talking about when you say “trumps in this case”. Then you talk about BB’s religious beliefs. It wouldn’t be about his beliefs, but hers. How do you know what is nearly impossible? Do you know more than the attorneys who are involved???
If you are so sure of your ongoing legal “analysis”, then you should be out there making the big bucks, not wasting time here. I have a broken foot so I have an excuse. Do you?
@ Elsa – responding to the following from you:
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February 24, 2015 at 2:00 pm
“Also, I never said anything about whether or not I think he would get the money.”
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Here are the post FROM YOU – where you essentially convey that BB will not be able to keep her on life support long enough to –ding ding ding you guessed it – to INHERIT THE MONEY :
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Elsa
February 23, 2015 at 1:24 pm
No way will BB ever be allowed to keep BK on life support for YEARS, so that as the clock ticks on, he becomes closer and closer to inheriting her money.
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February 23, 2015 at 10:32 am
There is no way BB would be able to keep his daughter on life support for 9 years, so that he could inherit the money.
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For your other point ( I responded in the post above) – bottom line BK did not have an advanced directive, so BB as her closest blood relative WILL convey the religious belief information. Do you honestly think Jahi the teenager woke up from being declared brain dead and legally dead by a coroner to advise or her religious beliefs —she did not —-her closest living relative did.
Old legal saying “If you don’t have the law on your side, argue the facts. If you don’t have the facts on your side, argue the law. If you have neither the facts nor the law on your side, argue the facts.” ;~\
Is it a snow day where you live? Hey Elsa, would you like to build a snowman?
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Clearly you don’t have any kids because if you did than you would NEVER suggest removing your child from life support. Whitney Houston would NEVER remove Bobbi Kris from life support. A loving parent would spend every penny they had trying to keep their child alive and it appears that this is what Bobby is doing and I commend him. He doesn’t give a shit about Whitney’s money. He knew when he married her that he would never get any because he signed the prenup. He left with nothing after the divorce. He has made and continues to make his own money off of his own name. His intentions have NOTHING to do with money. It’s 100% about saving his child and getting her the best possible care that he can. As a parent I would let every penny of that money drain up and go to the hospital if it meant that it would keep my child alive.
@ Kim….then I guess BB will be happy to sign away his rights to inherit the money …answer no he will not …….. 2nd WH filed COURT DOCUMENTS during the divorce proceedings which conveyed that BB should not receive SPOUSAL or CHILD SUPPORT —— yes the prenup addressed the spousal support issues, but as you likely know most people try and have the prenup tossed during divorce proceedings when they are the person that has less money than the other spouse.
Case in point: according to the court documents WH filed BB had requested money from her for his support and she was concerned that he was also going to officially request that directly from the court as well as child support money. Naturally she wanted the prenup enforced and wanted the court to treat the child support issue as the spousal support issue was treated in the prenup.
BTW I think you need to step into the real world, PARENTS have made the decision to take a child off of life support….
I feel sorry for your children.
I feel sorry for yours and hope to god they are never brain dead and you just string them out for as long as you can making a terrible situation horrific.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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But Tamara, don’t you know that the only way to know a mother truly loves her child is to keep it on life support after its declared brain dead long enough until it’s brain liquified?
So every single parent is a carbon copy of you ok mmhmmm got it. Time to get off the internet and go see what real peopl are like verses, “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and doggone it, people like me!” That only works when you leave the house and interact with them.
And holy shit the girl is dead. God is not going to change his mind when he hears prayer number 50078 tomorrow and say, ok, I guess this family really means it so I’ll send an angel to perform a miracle. Without our minds we are nothing.
You’re just precious. Of course it is about the money. The kid is dead.dead.dead.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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The whole getting BK to 30 will become an issue no matter anyone’s plans. People in her condition, on a respirator and being fed by a tube (I suppose), are medically fragile. The body, like Mother Nature, doesn’t like to be fooled. Every day she will be losing ground. So sad. Like the song from Frozen, let it (her) go.
Oh so now you GOD huh? You can decide who’s dead and who’s alive. Fuck this blog. You missing your real calling.
Bye Felicia. See you in hell
I know I did, Kim. No one was sadder than me to find out that the God position had already been filled. I’d be so much better than the one we have now.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Clearly Kim, you have no children. No loving parent would keep their child’s dead body hooked to a machine.
I have three children and GOD chose me to give them life, not take it away. That’s his job. So I’ll leave you all to go and kill off your children so you can collect their inheritances.
She’s dead as a doornail. She’s worm food. Do you understand what machines are?
I have two, I have no money to inherit from them and I still wouldn’t keep either one of them on this earth via a machine. I love my children with all my heart and soul and every fiber of my being and while it would kill me to have to do it, I also know it would kill me to NOT let them go in peace. My heart races just thinking about this. I’d want to lay down next to them and follow :'(
@kim If BK were taken off the machines, it’s more than probable she would go. That said, if Bobby truly believed and trusted in his God, he’d remove the machines man created out of ego and, well, … Thy Will Be Done.
Kim, there is a new trend now, called “body posing”. They do this a lot with pets, but are now doing it with humans. You can have your loved one stuffed and preserved and posed in a way that reflects their personality. That way, you can let your loved one go, yet keep them forever. How does that sound? You can have your cake, and eat it, too.
Only a mother that truly loves her child would carry it around as a stuffed treasure.
Exactly. I wouldn’t even disrespect a pet this way. But if some have trouble letting go….
It is cold where I live, but today is a good day – it’s in the teens! However the snow is too icy for packing, and you need to be able to pack the snow if you want to build a snowman.
I don’t like lengthy posts, but feel it’s a must here. Here’s an excerpt from NJ law 26:6a-5:
There is a religious or “conscience” exception – unique to New Jersey – which provides that if the physician has a reason to believe on the basis of information in the individual’s available medical records or information provided by the family or others that the individual’s personal religious beliefs would be violated by the declaration of death upon the basis of the neurological criteria, then the death of the individual shall be declared, and the time of death fixed, solely upon the basis of cardio-respiratory criteria.
Notice that it says “if the physician has reason to believe…” This is what I’ve been trying to explain: BB cannot simply move his daughter to NJ and declare religious beliefs to keep BK alive for years JUST BECAUSE YOU READ ABOUT IT IN ANOTHER CASE such as with Jahi. Also, it refers to “the individual’s personal religious beliefs”, not the person who has the authority to give the okay.
I don’t mean to be on a soapbox, but there’s way too much armchair legal analysis by some – and besides, BK is not in NJ…
God, you get stupider and stupider. Now your point is there is not a physician in all of NJ who will do what Bobby Brown wants? You are either a child are very, very naïve.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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That’s not what I said. I didn’t say anything about attorneys in NJ.
Neither did Tamara, dumbass lol
@ Elsa- yes we all know BK is not in NJ ….that is why I made the point that BB will MOVE her there – just as was done in the case of Jahi by her mother.
Despite what you posted via you excerpt – you left out the CONTROLLING part that impacts this case : In the absence of an advance directive (which is pretty clear at this point BK did not have), it is up to BB (i.e. her closest living relative) to communicate the religious beliefs.
Where in the NJ statute does it say that?
I’d rather have a liquid brain and be a vegetable than keep reading these two shut ins try to duke it out.
tb
February 24, 2015 at 1:32 pm
2can, there was no plug to be pulled in the Schiavo case. Just a feeding tube. Admittedly, splitting hairs but if you reference the case at least be accurate.
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@tb – FYI, the English language incorporates these neat things called indirect expressions.
The phrase “pulling the plug” falls into the above mentioned category, it is not intended as literal construct. In fact, it is intended to convey a concept.
In other words, pulling the plug is an indirect way to say or convey the concept of “ending life support” ….. 🙂
OMG, that’s horseshit. I don’t like to swear, but you’re pulling things out of nowhere. Can’t you at least admit that tb is correct or at least has a good point?
You do sound like Apollo Nida.
Toucan, yes I did say: “Also, I never said anything about whether or not I think he would get the money.” However, I was responding to what you had said: “You comment as if you believe the fact that BB will inherit the money … “. I was simply pointing out that you were trying to put words in my mouth. The other statements refer to BB keeping BK on life support, but I meant only as a means for attempting to get the inheritance.
As for your statement:
Do you honestly think Jahi the teenager woke up from being declared brain dead and legally dead by a coroner to advise or her religious beliefs —she did not —-her closest living relative did.
I read in a couple of cases that a judge interviewed family, friends, coworkers and the like in order to make an assessment of a person’s religious beliefs when that person could not speak for themselves. It is not just the closest living relative. And the judge has to be convinced. I can find the sources if you think you need to read them.
@ Else – I did not put words in your mouth. It was clear that you were making the point that BB would not be allowed to keep BK on life support that long “in order to inherit the money”.
I personally do not think BB will have to keep her on life support that long. I believe Cissy and the Houston brothers will agree to split everything 4 ways, or in a proportion that BB will accept- in exchange for pulling the plug.
However if it comes down to a court case – with respect to pulling the plug – BB will easily win that battle. In fact, his lawyers will be positioned to make Cissy look greedy by arguing that the ONLY reason Cissy and company want to pull the plug, is so they can split the balance of the trust fund and future earnings 3 ways -i.e. they want to KILL her – so to speak- for the money.
In addition his lawyers will then advance the argument that BB wants to keep his daughter ALIVE because he is praying for a miracle etc. etc. they will essentially assert info about religious beliefs etc etc.
Time will tell …..but I am confident that BB will prevail FINANCIALLY- in this case – either via a financial settlement in exchange for pulling the plug OR
via prevailing in court to keep her ALIVE (i.e. hooked up to machines) long enough to obtain the rest of the trust fund
Jesus fucking Christ go write some fan fiction about the death of Bobbi Kristina and call it 59 Shades of Shut Ins
This is stupid. Why argue? Neither one of you has a dog in this fight. Why is it so damned important that you prove you are right? Pull the plug. Let this conversation rest in peace. Please.
Okay, my problem with the things you write, is that you sound like you have it all figured out. Like it’s that simple. And you come to these conclusions without knowing any more details than what has been written in the press. It’s not a stretch for me to say that a good attorney can sift through the details of a given case, and come up with some new “angle”, some other strategy, or something that somebody hasn’t thought of before. That’s why people say that you can never get a straight answer from an attorney. I have been a patent attorney for over 20 years, and really I don’t know much about cases like the BK one, but what I said still holds true, regardless of the particular area of law.
I hope that I have explained myself well enough, I find it hard sometimes without going on and on.
In any case, I’ll know if I have made some sense if Tamara responds by insulting me, which she usually does when she can’t think of anything of substance to say…
Oh! You’re a patent attorney! Well thank god you are an expert on this issue!
It’s Tamara’s blog. She can say whatever she wants. Wow, I never knew lawyers were so insecure.
Oh now your a patent attorney. LOL. SMH. How is it that you can’t work as a patent attorney with a broken foot?
You seem to like the phrase “sift through” (details, emails, case law…) and that “a good attorney can…” “find and angle” to win “the case.” You don’t seem to understand that there is no case. 2Can, annoying as he/she may be has pointed out to you in excruciating detail that BB has the final say in whether or not BK will be unplugged. YOU CAN’T FORCE the person in control to kill their kid. All the cases you ramble on about are irrelevant. There will not be a case. No one would TRY to stop BB from pulling the plug.THE SITUATION SEEMS TO BE HE IS GOING TO KEEP HER ALIVE INDEFINATELY. NO ONE CAN STOP HIM FROM DOING THAT.
A JUDGE IS NOT GOING TO INTERVIEW HER FAMILY AND COLLEGUES (if by colleagues you mean her drug dealers and the friends she does drugs with , allegedly) to find out if she is a religious person. It’s irrelevant. A JUDGE WILL NOT BE INVOLVED AT ALL YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON.
God, why couldn’t you have broken your hands?
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You sound more like you work with patent-leather. You’re breathing in some funky fumes and posting a ton of nonsensical shit.
@cat, it is definitely stupid, ie 2can hijacking a blog thread, answering everyones questions as if the comments are directed towards him/her personally, stating opinion as fact, needing to have the last word should anyone else offer their thoughts or opinions.
Maybe 2can IS Apollo since his/her hand is not getting slapped for overstepping boundaries, behaving in a consistently contrary (and long winded!) fashion and generally being annoying.
Hmmmmm…..I think I can understand why it’s being allowed. And if I am right, I agree with it. I’ll leave it at that. 🙂
Because it makes me realize how fulfilling and happy my life is?
YES! 🙂
Annoying alone is generally not enough. Incurring my wrath is a based on a formula with many factors other than annoyance, intelligence, literacy level and ability to draw a crowd are also factors.
Besides, this @2Can person has their facts straight which allows me time to work all the while knowing someone will correct every stupid post Elsa makes.
If only TeeCee would come back and mock the idiots who want to keep their dead kids on life support until all their internal organs are liquefied I’d never have to open these comments at all.
I need to get back to the Jodi Arias trial.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Tamara, what time do you announce the winner in the Battle of the Losers contest?
March 1st.
Dear God it can’t come soon enough. It’s like by the end of the Olympics you’re like yeah USA ok whatever as you turn off ice skating because you miss 2 Broke Girls
Thank God February is a short month, huh?
I mean, the knowledge I’m gaining is fascinsting and very useful but I need a break because I can’t keep cramming at this pace. I need to go to a kegger tonight at the frat house to blow off some steam.
Since I gave up steam for Lent, please blow off a frat boy for me instead. Please and thank you.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Anything for you, queen of the priceless comebacks that leave me in tears
I have to make up for three missing days of page views somehow…
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m not even reading their comments anymore. I stopped days ago.
If you can change the annoyance into laughter, shit is really funny! They’re both wearing clothes the same pattern as the couch, cheese doodles strewn about, a baby with a dirty diaper playing with a burnt out light bulb, Dr Phil on TV and they’re calling his 1800 number with the real diagnosis of the guests because Dr Phil isn’t doing it right. See? Funny!
@kat0711 I was going to lol your earlier comment about being on a liquid diet – then I saw this one- you are hilarious! Thank you!
Now I’m dying at yours “being on a liquid diet”!
I can’t even get the damn post right! Please forgive me! Liquid brain! LoL ( I am snowed in with a 9 yo and I only have 4 bottles of wine left:(
No no I love liquid diet and plan on using it!
Clearly the smart move is to give one to the 9 year old.
What? I’m just saying. It sounds like an emergency.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT- You are hilarious! You are correct – this is a true emergency! Plus we are getting more snow tomorrow:( Us southerners are totally wigging ) I fibbed to my bf- “Sweetie we are out of milk, will you please bring me some and a case of Pinot?” All milk is hidden in fridge in garage! Ha!
Waiting for some of your Purple Outstanding Print – since you don’t have anything else to do lol jk
2canplay= Pat Houston
Wow Tamara, YIKES!!! I just googled your name to find out more about you.
Lots of accusations that you are a racist. You’re also known as Detective Tamara who likes to snake their way onto people’s property, without their permission, so you can take photos for posting on your blog. You’ve gone to court because you were stalking a former real housewife. Plus, you are no longer teaching 3rd graders to read. Why? I bet it’s because one of the kids corrected your use of the word “their”, and you lost your cool, and after hurling profanity at the poor kid, you told him you wish he would get cancer and die, just like you tweeted to Amber Marchese.
No wonder people are boycotting your site. Way to be 50, sitting around all day without a real job, making excuses for your house and neighborhood, blogging about shows on some second rate tv channel. For lent, you should spend some time reflecting on your soul and ask for a dildo because you’ll never find anybody who would take your clothes off. You have lost my page views, girl!
Bye Felicia! See you at the next She By Sheree fashion show!
But Dear Elsa, it’s not just Tamara who noticed you needed help, but all of us. Unfortunately, Internet “friends” are not the ones to get you said help so get the fuck out of here and find a shrink. Maybe join an adult dodgeball club where you can interact with others in your age and same social economic group. Or go to Starbucks and buy coffee for the person behind you and strike up a conversation. How about you take up amateur taxidermy? Just get the fuck out of your house!
LMAO….
Oh Elsa, the biggest lie of all that crap is that I am going to lose your page views. You morons never go away so easily. I can only wish that you would.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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True, we come back like herpes. Day 8 on the nicotine patch, I am a true bitch.
@Simone, have you tried e-cigs? Worked for me, since spring 2013 …
I have always used the patch before. This time e-cigs. I don’t like them much, which is great. I didn’t have a puff at all yesterday until late at night. Great crutch during moments of duress. Very low nicotine I the tank. And you can do it pretty much anywhere.
tt~ on the pipe since Feb 18th 2015.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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the patch, nicotine gum, chantix, etc., wouldn’t have worked for me because I loved smoking. e-cigs, while not as pleasurable to smoke as a cigarette, satisfy my desire to smoke … I haven’t very often thought about smoking a cigarette since I stopped, though the day I switched to e-cigs, I wrapped up my last un-opened pack and put it in the freezer … it’s still there … 🙂
I don’t know if this will help anyone but one time when I quit I would heat up rice really hot and inhale the steam. It felt good to inhale the warmth.
FYI we have a post for this where we are commenting.
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2015/02/17/happy-mardi-gras-yall/
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Elsa…poor, poor Elsa. You need to do more research. And try to remember 2 things: Don’t believe everything you read, especially on the internet. And, when someone invites you into their home, show a little respect.
At least you have finally put the rest of us out of our misery. Bye!
I have a hypothetical question… If Bobbi K & Nick went to a lawyer (before this incident ever happened) had a Living Will drafted that states if anything happens to Bobbi K, Nick Gordon gets everything (her estate, etc), can the Bobbi K’s own will cancel out Whitney Houston’s will??
If this IS doable, wouldn’t that be more beneficial to NICK than any marriage, since Whitney didn’t include Nick in her will? Could Bobbi K feel obligated/ convinced by Nick to secretly do this?? Just wondering…. 🙁
By the way, LOVE and fear can make a person do the unthinkable. If you believe a person is the ONLY one that is there for you or cares about you, wouldn’t you want to look out for them if anything happens? Nick and Bobbi K announced to the world that they were married (and actually weren’t?). Would they sign a contract/ unofficial marriage pact–a document with a will, of some sort, in secrecy to ensure Nick’s future? In a sick, twisted way of matrimonial commitment to each other, they unofficially got married and are married?! (maybe I’m thinking outside the box?)
I now agree that BB is keeping her alive for the money…how sick. Let the poor girl go. one possibility is that they may not be able to keep her in a medically induced coma indefinitely. Nick is scum and Bobby isn’t much better.
Yes BB is all about the $$$$$…. and Nick is now in full meltdown mode on twitter – I think he loved her …she just appeared to love him more ..but I think Nick is also coming to the realization that his life on financial easy street is officially over .- hence his twitter meltdown…. hopefully he had nothing to do with it — that is other thn sitting around..doing drugs with her….hopefully he did not physically abuse her that day… and the end result…. is how she ended up in her current condition…. if he did ..I hope he is convicted of something related to this……
Nick’s tweets would be highly entertaining if he weren’t serious…I don’t think he loved her in a mature way, 2 codependents in their own sick world. While I don’t think he tried to kill her something isn’t clean in the water because he is not cooperating with police and tried to block a supoena of surveillance video. Yes, time for that 26 yr old gun toating leech to get a J.O.B.
So much for Pat Houston upholding her role in reference to having the appearance of being trustworthy enough to protect the assets of BK… seems that the ring WH wore all the time …that BK then begain wearing all the time – after WH died…is now on the hand of Rayah Houston…. the Daughter of Pat and Gary – Rayah has taken to twitter to post the picture of herself wearing the ring…. no telling what ELSE Pat H and company removed from the house, that Pat H and company are NOW wearing or using (including money) since BK has been hospitalized – pure speculation on my part- but that is a shame…. I could see Pat H removing the ring from the hand of BK …but it should have been placed in a safety deposit box at the bank along with other very valuable jewelry of WH that BK had at the house or on her person….. it should NOT be on the hand of Rayah Houston in a picture posted to her twitter account
Unbelievable….. The indecency of it all…I understand removing it, but passing it on prior to the buriel and photographing it. Damn vultures I swear. My God…be with this family….this is the kind of stuff that makes you think maybe BK is better off and let her go. the way her family is acting right now both sides, I see why she wanted to be with her mama. I mean they just need to let her go because this is getting to be more ridiculous by the day. money can be such a curse in certain families
What are you talking about?
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Any updates on BK?
You know, I really did not know that much about BK or the families. Today I set down and watched a tiny bit of being Bobby Brown and the Houston’s : on our own, most of the entire season.
How sad I feel for this young lady. Torn in so many directions and so strong willed as well. My prayers are with her and the family. And just my two cents, the news today says that the browns in talk about a reality show. Tacky… Very tacky in my opinion!
No change. The crackhead siblings of BB and their crackbabies are trying to get a reality show. TMZ over blows it. It’s not picked up by anyone. It’s just a err….pipe dream….so to speak at this point.
In fact Pipe Dreams would be a great name for the show. I should get paid for that.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You are so right. You should be paid for that as it’s perfect! And the names for the ” stars “of the show is perfect as well.
Thank you for updates.
This may sound crazy, but I believe BK was the One who was pg, not Bobby’s wife. Wife announced her pg 6 days after BK had her “accident”. Then they finally move her to hospice and days before she delivers everyone is blocked from hospice. Things that make you go hmmmmm….