Lisa Rinna wants everyone to take a strong stance when it comes to Kim Richards and start calling her out on her relapse and hold her responsible for her behavior. Not a bad idea but I think Lisa might be biting off more than she can chew. This is an issue that has been going on for a long time and I don’t think she has a magic wand to wave. What is that saying about the road to hell? Her intentions are good but I think she will regret them.
Here are a few excerpts from her blog. You can read the whole thing here.
Can we all just start off by taking a collective deep breath and really let this episode sink in? There is just so much going on with intense emotions and feelings that are being felt on a really, really deep level. Too bad all two million of us can’t meet at Yolanda’s gorgeous pool for some mind clearing yoga, right?
The end of Kyle’s gay mixer was full of tears and conversations filled with questions that began with the word WHY. Why do certain people behave a certain way? Why is it OK to say certain things to someone else? Why do we all keep letting this happen? There are just so many unanswered questions, and for Eileen and me to be the new girls on the block, we really have these questions just waiting to come from our lips.
Let’s start with the yoga session followed by conversation with Yolanda at her place in Malibu. Yolanda is such a classy woman and has been a true friend to Brandi. Watching her talk to Brandi about her drinking really resonated with me, until Brandi deflected by hitting below the belt and called out a child before answering a question about her own potential issues. As a mother, this really affected me. Could you imagine offering your friend sound advice from a place of concern and love only to have them panic at the reality they were facing, turn it around, and then manipulate the conversation into being a rumor about your child? Oh. My. God. No. As usual, Yolanda handled this like the champion she is.
How incredible of Eileen to plan a lunch for Kim, Kyle, and herself in order to help the two sisters mend their relationship. I can’t even begin to imagine how hard it must be for Eileen to watch the complications of the Richards sisters’ relationship after losing two of her own sisters, one of which passed just mere months before. I think it shows that Eileen is an amazing character for her to make the effort to reach out and share her story in hopes of helping Kyle and Kim.
Speaking of family and children, we caught a quick glimpse into my own household when my daughter Amelia was running late for a One Direction concert. Watching this was like looking into a mirror. I absolutely cannot stand being late for anything, and I get really stressed out when it happens. Clearly this is something Amelia gets from me, and when it’s coupled with holding up her ride for 10 minutes and a One Direction concert, instinct and desperation kicks in. A 13-year-old girl running late for a concert with five cute guys is like missing a 100% off sale at Neiman’s.
Lunch with Brandi was interesting, wasn’t it? So, before we sat down for lunch, I had actually just done her podcast. I really wanted to spend this one-on-one time with her, because I had so many questions that I felt only she could answer. I had also talked to the other women about her and her behavior already, so I felt I needed to speak directly to her. The Brandi that showed up for lunch was a sensible, empathetic woman who made some pretty powerful statements. Asking for a group intervention with a therapist? There’s a whole lot of meaning behind those words! Discussing how Kim would murder her then kill herself if she found out we were discussing her sobriety was another eye-opening and very telling statement for me.
“If the addict is pleased with your help, you’re probably enabling. If the addict is pissed as hell, you’re probably helping the person you love.” -Sandy Swenson
Clearly there is a lot of tip toeing going on around Kim Richards, and I just don’t understand why everyone is so hesitant to approach her about it. There is definitely a reason I am here among this group of women, and maybe it’s to ask questions and to call a spade a spade.
One word you you Lisa Rinna….AMEN!
Although I agree with everything Lisa said, my only tiny issue is whether it is her place to try to setup an intervention. I was ok with her actions in the limo with Kim (for safety reasons she had a right to see if Kim was high), however, in nearly every scene all Lisa R talks about is Kim’s addiction. It is starting to make me a bit uncomfortable.
Maybe they show those comments so it seems that way.. but Lisa is only one far enough removed to see the gravity of the situation. Kyle is so close an shes always afraid of pushing Kim farther away.. someone needs to speak up and not be afraid to label what is actually happening.
Brandi did present the idea during her sitdown with Lisa R. So if Kim has anyone to be ticked at it;s should be Brandi. Brandi, I don’t think will not be there, which she should be since she was at the poker nigh along with Kim/Kyle/Lisa R/Eileen.
Sadly, Lisa R is going to fall into the Kim trap I believe. While her intentions will be good and I agree with her a 100% Kim needs to be put on notice, I feel this will be a dead end and Kim will try to make Lisa out into the bad one since she’s so involved.
Look at the limo scene with Kyle (Kim won fan support and sympathy) and Lisa V questioned if Kim was on something in Paris (once again Kim got sympathy). I think Lisa R will get the worse end of it if the rumor is true Kim will try to make Harry out into a cheater just to piss Lisa R off from helping her.
That is a good thing if Kim starts that rumor. It will make most viewers sympathise with Lisa R. Similarly like with the Kyle and Marucio cheating rumors last season.
Lisa R. Is only one with sense, besides Eileen. Everyone tiptoes around Kim like shes a porcelain doll that is going to break.
Yep. However I believe they are going to feel the wrath of a pissed off addict and enabling-manipulator in action soon.
So descriptive! I visualized an evil Super Addict on a rampage….I’ve probably gotta get more sleep…
I’ve seen women like Kim in AA meetings for many years-They have this kind of vulnerability that makes people feel protective of them. They manipulate the hell out of people-frankly it’s always driven me crazy because their motives seem so transparent and I can’t believe other people don’t see it. Because everyone coddles and protects them, they stay like children and their recovery is more tenuous because everyone makes excuses for them and wants to protect them.
I don’t like Lisa R talking about someone’s unadmitted addiction issues in public. At first I thought it was helpful but now it feels like inadvertant gossip.
It could be just editing but it seems that is Lisa R’s only storyline this season.
It’s not editing because it’s in her blogs. I admit I found it refreshing at first but now she seems gossipy in that, ‘I’m only trying to help’ way. But I love Lisa! I’m watching Melrose Place right now!
Isn’t 2/3’s of the show centered around Kim and Brandi? Lisa R, Eileen, Kyle, Lisa V and Yolanda are all reacting to Kim and Brandis actions. Lisa R is calling a spade a spade because she sees the writing on the wall where Kim is concerned. Kim has 4 children to keep her busy and full the rest of her life and Lisa R is stepping out of place because she doesn’t want to see her kids go through the pain that Whitney Hustons family and now Bobby Brown is going through? No! She is on the show and a part of the group when things go down. Kim even told her (Lisa R) she was stupid and to STFU at the poker party, unprovoked! I’d say she has place to speak or call a spade a spade.
Again. Not saying Lisa R can’t comment, or that her comments are not valid. Just that maybe she is going a bit too far. That is all. You can disagree with me that is fine. Just don’t misinterpret what I am saying.
I’m uncomfortable with it, too.
Ok but all of you aren’t uncomfortable with Kim slurring and blabbing and randomly laughing and then talking like a baby then not showing up for half of the taping?then lying, and mumbling, and cussing people out, and then crying, then more mumbling and then laughing?? Please!!! If you’re uncomfortable with Lisa being REAL, then idk how you live your daily lives?
Right on @Beau.
TT, please give us your thoughts on the expected intervention… I’m unsure and believe her family should be the only people involve since its a private matter… Also, maybe Kim need to take a break from reality TV…
Maybe that is the ‘party’ where Kim turns the tables on Lisa R. I can’t remember that scene in the series preview that well so maybe it is just another random dinner party.
@beaumondelife – She needs a reality check, I just don’t think Rinna is the one to do it. I don’t believe these two women have a real relationship outside of this show. I’m not sure how you get along in your real life – if you have one – being so freaking rude.
I agree with you… Addiction is such mis understood disease. Being that our society follows the stigmas, and not so much the facts.. It makes people uncomfortable. It is natural for people to want to keep it private. It is a medical situation that should be addressed and has over and over. Instead, we are watching this woman basically on rock bottom before our eyes. To me rock bottom is near death:( Addiction, there is no cure, however people can and do recover. Bravo is def. playing with fire on this one….
Brandi has set up a trap for Lisa R.. Lisa is about to walk into it. Bravo just showed a 15 min peek of next week and Lisa V seems to be telling Lisa R that it’s a bad idea to intervene. Based on season previews, somehow Lisa R. throws wine at Kim after she says something about Harry. So I am going to guess that Lisa R doesn’t listen to Lisa V and steps right into that trap!
My thoughts exactly. I think it will backfire on Kim in the end though. The fans appear to like Lisa R and are getting tired of Kim’s deflection tactics.
I hope it backfires on Brandi. I hope all the shows viewers see what a manipulative piece of shit Brandi is and scream about it. I am sick of her!
I certainly hope so, I’m tired of seeing the rational cast members get so much flack for the sake of drama. No wonder Brandi went from being likeable at first to completely intolerable. Being a logical, rational, kind person gets you nowhere on these shows so I’m ready to see this dynamic shift, please for the sake of viewers, Bravo! It’s not fun anymore.
Kim is a grown woman and its nobody’s business but her’s what she wants to do. Lisa R. comes off as a bitch, butting into another person’s life. She doesn’t give a fuck about Kim, she is just trying to grab some attention.
I get what you are saying!
She’s Lisa effin Rinna she doesn’t need to talk about KIM Richards for attention!? She actually never had anything to say about it until she was trapped in a car with her and KIM proceeded to cuss her out and become whacked right in front of her. Also, the fact that Kim may have gone into Lisa’s home to use in her bathroom would def put me “in” her business.
didn’t lisa r have some storylines in mind for herself all the time she was trying to get onto the show? she had the right to say something to kim when kim was harassing her in the car, but she is not an intervention specialist. i think she needs to butt out in terms of an intervention. that’s close friend and family business.
Like everyone here commented.. BRANDI brought up the intervention. Lisa didn’t and KIM considers BRANDI to be her closest friend…so for Lisa R to cosign it doesn’t make her butting in .. She’s being supportive.
I would have agreed with you up until the limo ride. If you are going to scare the fuck out of me in your high state 1 on 1 in a limo then you kind of make your addiction my business as it impacted me. At least that is how I believe Rinna may see it. Which I would agree with. I just don’t think it is healthy for Rinna to get too involved. It will backfire on her. Sadly.
I cosign this 100%. It is a little much with Lisa R discussing it ALL the time. It is also highly inappropriate to do an intervention with folks who really would prefer if Kim just went away. I wouldn’t do an intervention for Kim Richards because I don’t give a shit about her.
HOWEVER, it is also entirely appropriate to say to Kim that she is not invited to any more Housewives’ Games until she can control her behavior. What Kim did to Lisa R in that limo was terrifying. It appeared to be a psychotic break and nobody should be placed in that situation.
The limo ride …. that is hands down the most uncomfortable scene I’ve watched from all of the housewives shows. I felt for Lisa R. I would have been freaked out by Kim’s behavior and hoping she wasn’t armed.
Lisa R looked like she wanted to jump out of the limo while the car was still in drive. Id freaked out myself.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who interpreted the limo ride this way. It easily matched the awkward limo ride from the season one finale. What do they both have in common? Oh that is right a fucked up Kim Richards.
captain eel,
I TOTALLY AGREE!! I like Lisa R, but she is using Kim as her storyline as the “overly concerned interventionist”.
@Micheal – Since I know you love Yo as much as I do, in that sneak peak Yo still hasn’t gotten that Brandi is not someone you should be friends with. She and Brandi are doing yoga again and she has talked Brandi into 21 day cleanse without alcohol! LMAO! Brandi is a binge drinker. She can properly go 21 days without. That does proves shit especially since, as Brandi states in her talking head, “it’s a good thing I can pop a xanax”!
DISCLAIMER: I do not condone or promote Addiction by Bravo!
Did it occur to you in now your third or so recounting of the sneak peek that not everyone wants to know about it?
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You are right of course. I never thought about that.You should delete my comment!
I think Yo is handling this very very well. She recognizes a problem and recognizes that Brandi cannot (for custody’s sake) and will not (because she is an asshole) admit she has a problem.
So Yo is giving her a way to “save face” – a cleanse. If you remember, she offered to do “the cleanse” with Kim as well.
I think Yo sees two broken women and wants to fix them. Right now she is doing what she can, which is being there and making suggestions for them to try. I have issues with last year’s Yo, but in general, she seems to have her head on straight and to be very very good about setting boundaries without disposing of the person.
I like how she’s handling this.
I liked Yo in the beginning, then she seemed to be the ring leader last year. She is more likeable this season. And yes I think she is genuinely trying with Brandi. But Brandi will burn her. That dig at Bella was too low. Yo is looking tired and her “friends” should be concerned about her.
I hope that Kim gets paid a good amount of money for being on this show! Although she needs help IMO, it must be hard for her and her children to see her life going out of control on national t.v.
I believe that her battle should be kept in private.
We said that several seasons ago… she seems rather oblivious to her behavior on TV.
Wasn’t it just last season she was praying to a trashcan?
Sad.
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I kept imagining Oscar the Grouch popping out of that trash can to grant Kim three wishes.
Instead she got a squirrel.
Hats off to you trashcan god!
Yes, she was praying to a trashcan. I forgot about that.
I thought that addicts, in general stayed holed up to avoid scrutiny?
I would worry that the cops were waiting to catch me if I was always heavily altered on national t.v!!
Just pondering a couple of thoughts. Lisa R if I recall correctly has been friends with Kyle for years. Have they just been ‘Hollywood friends’ that she’s not long familiar with Kims issues? I love her, and don’t see her as the type to wait to get on tv to entertain interventions before.
Kyle and Lisa have been friends but probably not close enough for Kyle to discuss Kim that much. Kyle is not an oversharer (like me 🙂 ) She has family to discuss family issues with and was raised to not discuss family issues with outsiders.
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I can’t speak for Lisa, but, if I were cast on a reality show, I would go back and wAtch all the seasons so I would be up to speed as to what’s gone down and who’s who. There’s no way in hell that Lisa doesn’t know what’s gone on with Kim. Maybe she’s taking a page from Kyle’s book and using Kim’s alcoholism as her storyline too. I think that Kyle does have her sister’s best interest at heart now and I don’t see her betraying her again on TV. If Kim is only on the show to focus on her issues with alcohol then they should say that up front . Otherwise, I think it’s low for these women to talk so openly and so often about Kim’s oersonal problems. Maybe she did fall off the wagon. But isn’t it common to slip with alcoholics? All Kim can do is dust herself off and begin again. She has been doing so well up to this point. i hate to see these women jump the gun and spin this out of control. That’s not fair.
I think maybe Lisa just wants the best for KYLE who she has known for a long time. I think she wants Kyle to set boundaries like we all do…
That said, it may be overstepping and it will likely end badly.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> Kyle and Lisa have been friends but probably not close enough for Kyle to > discuss Kim that much. Kyle is not an oversharer (like me 🙂 ) She has > family to discuss family issues with and was raised to not discuss family > issues with outsiders. > > On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
I agree TT. I think Lisa R is sticking her neck out for Kyle. Kyle has a better supportive friend in Lisa R than Kim with Brandi. I can see why Kim might find Lisa R to be a threat because Lisa is actual truth cannon and wont fall for Kim’s manipulation. However I just think this gonna go well when it all set and done.
Oh, TT, Brandi posted a pic of she/Kathy/Kim on her Twitter. It might not be a big deal but when it comes to Brandi it just might.
Im sorry, isnt gonna end well.*
I like Lisa R but Kim R doesn’t need to be on Lisa R’s timeline. Kim will only get better when she is ready. Lisa R should understand that.
I am the Lisa Rinna of my world. I speak the absolute truth, and I SAY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS THINKING, not in a shocker sort of way, but when it’s time, I speak. No BS, just the facts. I have even been asked to say something by friends to friends, or others will wait for me to take charge. That said, Lisa is calling out the elephant in the room, and I believe it’s in her make up to do so. It’s unfortunate that this is on TV, but over half of LA is like this, so it’s not like the entire subject is new. Don’t shoot the messenger, as they say. She is not spreading lies, half truths, or stuff she has not seen for herself. You do the crime, you do the time. Kim should suit up…
The problem, is that Lisa R is not saying anything that everybody else on the show doesn’t already know. She is a master of the obvious. I don’t think it’s her place to hold an intervention for Kim.
And no, everybody in LA is not “like this.”
if not her place than whose? Lisa R. and Eileen are the new ladies on the block and are just doing what either of them naturally would do. Kim is in trouble and Brandi is far too self-destructive and drunk or popping xanex to really call Kim.out on it and not look like a raging hypocrite. Kyle is far too biased to see clearly. Lisa V wont dare risk playing the villain and has felt the wrath of Kim. For all we know Kim was inebriated when everyone went at Lisa V. during last season’s reunion. Yolanda is too busy dealing with lyme disease. I think Lisa R has the gumption and gutsjness to knock Brandi of her belligerent truth cannon brigade. This season is a million times better because of Eileen and Lisa R. I am over Brandi
I think Lisa is trying to do what is best for kim as well as the rest of the cast. It’s not healthy for anyone to be forced to be around addicts. But the thing is Kim doesn’t want to be sober, and she probably never really has been sober, so any attempt is futile. These women should probably just not include Brandi and Kim as much as production will allow and if they have to be around them, not engage in any real way.
Isn’t it great. Now Brandi is an outcast on the show, pissed off Andy AND is threatening to not come back, we may finally be free. If it weren’t for CA, I would put money on her ‘leaving’. Sadly CA may get her one more season on Housewives.
I am of the opinion that Danielle was forced off the show because of the fact that the ex-con friend(Danny?) brought a gun to Danielle’s luncheon meeting with Caroline, as if Caroline was going to whack her or something. Bravo, as much as they may want to cannot condone bringing armed maniacs to tapings. Everybody complained about the gun, and as Bravo did not have a leg to stand on, they had to let Danielle go.
“These women should probably just not include Brandi and Kim as much as production will allow and if they have to be around them, not engage in any real way.”
That’s kind of what Lisa Vanderpump is doing.
I think Lisa Rinna’s concern is right on, but I doubt there is anything anyone can do for Kim. I don’t think Kim has ever really been clean and sober either.
I like Lisa R’s honesty and spirit, and I’m glad she’s speaking up. When people like Kim are on a downward spiral, I always hear people say, “Isn’t there anyone to help them or tell them they need help?” Well, that’s what Lisa’s doing. She said that her husband’s brother died of addiction, so she knows about it first hand and probably feels like she needs to say something instead of enabling Kim.
You put it perfectly. People more often regret not speaking up. And why not an outsider, a non-family member? Lisa R’s lost 2 brothers-in-law. Suggesting to keep-quiet and butt-out sounds like the same tired excuses used when covering up abuse or other horrible offenses. If Lisa R gets shit for this, then she can at least go to bed at night knowing she tried. Whereas others said “ohh scary subject, don’t embarrass anyone”.
Lisa R should just quietly pull Kim to the side and have a one on one with her. They may not be good enough friends. Kim is not going to react well when she hears that Lisa R has been talking to the girls because she’s concerned. I’m not saying that Lisa R is wrong or bad but addiction is like a demon that possesses someone and when someone threatens the demon…not pretty!
In my opinion, watching this mess from season one, Kim has always had a problem mixing pills but she is in denial that she has an addiction to them. She just changed her method of getting high from alcohol. Lisa R is right to call her out especially considering the ride from hell she took with Kim. As for Brandi, not only does she have a problem with alcohol but she’s mean and spiteful and will tell your darkest secrets without hesitation. I know Bravo will hire her again next year, but i wonder what would happen if everyone refused to film with her?
I think the ride from hell plays a big part in Lisa’s reaction now. God, that was awful to watch. It was like Kim became some sort of evil Chucky doll come to life. I thought her head was going to start spinning around.
Now that she experienced that behavior first hand—-and knows that WE ALL SAW IT—-I think Lisa feels compelled to try and ” do something”.
I hope Yolanda is well enough to confront brandi about her Bella comments at the reunion.
Even if she can’t make it, a video tongue lashing to be played at the reunion would be perfect. Brandi wouldn’t fight with Yolanda, and she’d be forced to listen.
A girl can dream.
Even if not Lisa R.’s place, these conversations of identifying addictive behavior are essential for public viewing when a cast member of a show is exhibiting public demonstration of addictive behavior. Some may take it as a blow on privacy for the family or the alleged addict, but that luxury goes when you sign a contract to be on a public interpretation of your life; scripted or not.
People of all sorts of ages watch this show… Teenagers, included. Not addressing serious issues or even not discussing them would be outright dangerous for our impressionable youth. -my two cents
Brandi is a functioning alcoholic and possibly addict. Though I am not a psychologist, psychiatrist, or psych anything, it is clear, in her behavior that she is using something (we see the excessive alcohol use). Brandi, please stay away from Kim who is an admitted user. You two are enabling each other and it is not good for either one of you. It also doesn’t look pretty on either of you! I can see an intervention/rehab for Kim in the near future, but that should be up to family and/or close friends. That being said, I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen at the reunion! Bravo should set the interview venue up like a Dexter kill room!
Lisa R. is just saying what needs to be said, you know that saying: “if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it probably is a duck”. Coming from her perspective of dealing with addiction I don’t doubt that she feels that Kim is no longer “sober” even though she is not drinking. I hope Kim can find the strength to face this and gets the support she needs to overcome this setback, pick yourself up and move on Kim. While it may not be Lisa R’s place to stage an intervention she can support those that should. Addiction kills and pretending it is not present is not healthy, because this is a reality show why not be real. As far as Brandi is concerned, I feel sorry for her kids but she is that friend that we all have had at one time in our lives after a while we realized that no matter what we do to be their friend they are not healthy to be around. After being bitten one to many times you have to walk away. Hopefully Bravo is at that point….I know I am.
Lisa’s doing Bravo’s dirty work. They know Kim’s not sober. They want no culpability this time. Still, Lisa’s the right choice, even though we know how this is going to end. Kim gets vicious and lashes out by accusing Harry of cheating. Way to deflect. Do addicts take a special class in deflection?
Everyone keeps saying Kim is an alcoholic, IMO, shes a drug addict. Ive heard rumors of cocaine use long before the RHOBH. Brandi accused her of using crystal meth all night in the bathroom. Also the white powder baggie she and her boyfriend Ken cough found in the limo. Drug addicts just go from drug to drug, alcohol only intensifys the effects of pills. Alcoholic just sounds better.
Just had a thought…does any of these women know Dr Drew? Well one woman’s bestie does!
😉 True, Angel(?) But I think his show has had a terrible track record.
I think they all do. Taylor was on Dr Drew to talk about Russell and their relationship.
Lol yes Brandi’s friend Jennifer Gimenez, who i have always been surprised is friends with Brandi. Also Kyles BFF Faye Resnick did a stint in rehab. I suspect Kyle is embarrassed hence the term “alcoholic”
I think it would be funny if Dr. Drew showed up at the reunion! Plus it could it Bravo off the hook. I can hear Andy: “Well we brought in an addiction specialist to try to talk to her”. (Funny is probably not the politically correct word to use but I couldn’t think of a good one.)
LOL.. I just don’t trust Dr Drew. Like one pointed his track record on that show Celebrity Rehab is not the greatest.
I wouldn’t mind Dr Phil though. He would break Kim and Brandi down and the rest for enabling both people.
Hmm did you not watch season 1 when she called Kim an alcoholic in the finale… Kyle can say it fine but she caught a lot of shit for that moment and she doesn’t want to be a villian.
If Kim is stupid (or greedy) enough to agree to be on television with all the problems she has, then the rest of the women should be able to call her out on them. It is supposed to be “reality” after all.
Agreed.
I like Lisa, I do..but… She needs to stop with the intervention thing. Let’s assume that Kim did take a pill and fall off the wagon at that party, how does that warrant the reaction she’s gotten from people she just met? She has a history of alcoholism and she’s bee through treatment and she’s been doing well up until this point. Surely, she has people she can call in the event that something like this happens. I don’t think its Lisa’s place to be constantly talking about it or trying to stage this “intervention”. Also, I think it’s very disrespectful for her to make Kim’s sobriety or lack thereof , her only storyline and constantly put Kim on front street on national TV. Butt out Lisa, it’s not your business or your place to call Kim out.
And why does Lisa think that Kim owes her anything?! She says “no one is saying, own your s***! ” do any of these women have any right to say this to Kim? Umm.. No. This is crazy. What Kim does may affect her life but it doesn’t affect the others , except maybe Kyle. Maybe Kyle should politely tell Lisa to butt out and get her own storyline.