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Kim Richards Says Nothing Is Her Fault!

February 13, 2015 by tamaratattles 137 Comments

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Kim Richard’s Twitter

You know, Kim Richards could learn a thing or two from Nene Leakes and just stop blogging. The more she tries to explain herself the worse she ends up looking.  I’m going to comment throughout her blog in purple because there is just so much wrong with what she wrote

Sorry, I’ve been MIA on the blog. I was on a much-needed vacation, but I’m glad to be back!

Sadly, after reading this blog, it clearly was not rehab, or even some sort of NA group.

This episode was a hard one to revisit, because of the whole me-Brandi-Kyle situation.

There is not you, Brandi and Kyle situation. There is a you and Brandi situation and a you and Kyle situation. The problem in both situations is you.

GIF BY RealityTVGIFs a blog by T. Kyle MacMahon  on Tumblr
GIF BY RealityTVGIFs a blog by T. Kyle MacMahon on Tumblr

Even though I had just been released from the hospital 48 hours before the gay mixer,

Wait. You were in the hospital? How long were you in for?

I only attended the event to support my sister and had nothing but good intentions when I invited Brandi.

Bullshit. No one believes this.

Kyle is my sister, and Brandi is my friend, so naturally I was just hoping they could patch things up. As I’ve mentioned before, their feud may seem like it’s all about me, but it is something much deeper and goes way back before this  happened with me.

Nope. It’s all about you.

We’ve all seen how their relationship progressively has gone downhill throughout the seasons. I mean, you all saw how Kyle and Brandi really started blowing up at each other over personal attacks, not over my situation! I don’t even want to go over in detail what was said… I don’t agree with anything that came out of their mouths that night. I was, and maybe still am, hurt—hurt by Kyle’s words and the dynamic between us three.

So you admit that Brandi and Kyle don’t like each other, so how was it helpful to bring Kyle to a party she was not invited to?  And there it is again, “the dynamic between us three.”  Your relationship with your sister is between two people, not three. Stop dragging your partner in addiction into your relationship with Kyle!

In a way, what I did (inviting Brandi) to the gay mixer is exactly what Eileen did for Kyle and me. Eileen also had good intentions, hoping Kyle and I can talk things out. And for that, I am appreciative for Eileen’s efforts.

Helping two sisters mend fences is not the same as bringing your sister’s arch enemy to her party where she was not wanted.

I can’t imagine what she’s been and currently going through with the loss of two sisters. I do want to rebuild my relationship with Kyle, but I just don’t know how. We’re so close that I think we’re both haunted by our history of ups and downs.

Have you tried not being a giant cunt satchel? You should try that.

To add fuel to the fire, Lisa R. was going on and on about how she knows all about addicts and how she knows when she meets one, but she is not an expert or a professional, so she shouldn’t be going around judging and stereotyping.

So now you are saying you are not an addict and Lisa R. got it wrong? We’re back to square one again?

RHOBH lisa and Kimberly

I don’t appreciate Lisa R. talking about me in a derogatory way behind my back and about my supposed problems to everyone around us when she doesn’t even really know me or anything about my journey to sobriety.

I think you are headed in the opposite way that one on a journey to sobriety would be on.  I’m just saying.

I know what happened on poker night looked bad—even I was shocked when I saw it! However, I have always been open about my sobriety,

What sobriety? Did you see yourself on TV? You think that is what sobriety looks like?

how I WAS in a bad place, and how I have been and am sober for the past three years.

Whoa, that is some serious, serious denial.

Instead of wanting to curl up into a ball and hide in the midst of all this drama, I feel confident and strong in myself. These rumors and the fighting actually made me realize how much stronger I am today.

WTF?

During Kyle’s mixer and Brandi and  Lisa R.’s lunch, certain phone calls between Brandi and me were brought up. I know exactly which phone calls they were, and, yes, they were concerning, because they were about someone who was in need of help—someone I care deeply about. I was directly involved in a very tough situation that did put me in harm’s way, and that’s why I was distraught when I called Brandi about it.

You know how when you are on a plane that is going down you are supposed to put the air mask on yourself first?  This is good advice for your current situation as well.

It was NEVER about me or alcohol and drugs. Both Kyle and Brandi knew exactly what those calls were about, so I was extremely upset when Kyle, knowing how private it was, kept on pushing Brandi to talk about the phone calls. With that said, I’m happy to share this person is doing well. This is all I have to share, and I ask everyone to respect this person’s privacy and to not probe any further.

So your son had a mental health episode and the person you decided to call was Brandi Glanville and not a family member? Was Brandi’s advice just to drink and go to bed and it would all work out? And aren’t you the one bringing it up again? And if Kyle already knew, did you just not like her advice?

Anyway, I hope Brandi doesn’t really feel pressured as one of my friends. She’s been there for me and so have so many other people outside of this group. Shout out to some of my best friends who have supported me through the years…decades— love you: Valerie, Lianne, Monty, Kristi …

Oh look. More shit stirring. You are worried about poor Brandi feeling pressure. So you pretend you are on the Price is Right waiting for the wheel to stop and shout out to your “real friends.” Never mind the family that has put up with this for years. Shout out to my enablers, y’all!

I’m not even going to address the part of her blog where she says the one thing all the women on the show have in common is putting their children first.  Because, seriously?

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  1. puppylove says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    Oh well – you can’t argue with a drunk

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    • Siohban says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:36 pm

      You can argue with a drunk; we are just always right 😉

      Reply
  2. RealChicagoHousewife says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    I just don’t see this ending well.

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    • Gemini says

      February 14, 2015 at 12:34 pm

      All the signs are there. Same with Whitney, and her daughter. What gets me, when someone is drunk or high (like Kim was) and you confront them, (like Lisa R did) and they deny it. Your looking right at them, while they slur their words, eyes glazed, head bobbing, obviously drunk or doped up. She reminds me of one of the patients on “Dr. Drew’s rehab”. Look at all the people who were on that show, that have died.

      Mindy McCready, who died of what’s believed to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Joey Kovar, from MTV’s Real World. Rodney King, his cause of death was ruled an accidental drowning, although alcohol, cocaine, marijuana and PCP found in his system. Actor Jeff Conaway, best known for his role on “Taxi”. His addiction to painkillers that cost him his life. Alice In Chains bassist Mike Starr, died from an drug overdose.

      All the signs are there. Lisa Rinna is absolutely correct in her assessment of Kim. It’s not a matter of “if”, that her addiction could cause her demise, its just a matter of when.

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  3. swizzle says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Someone please get Kim of this show. She’s clearly struggling with her own issues, not to mention her dying ex-husband and a child with a mental health issue. That’s too much for most people who don’t have addiction issues. Andy, for just once, do the right thing and get Kim off this show.

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    • RobinR says

      February 13, 2015 at 2:49 pm

      Folks like you and me have been commenting this to
      Andy for years. He loves conflict.period.end.

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    • CocoBrown says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      Kim has to go after this season. The inevitable could come and Bravo/Evolution would have two deaths on their watch! She has to go. 5 seasons of this is more than enough. If she wants to stay high do it where we don’t have to be reminded.

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    • vivaladiva831 says

      February 13, 2015 at 10:47 pm

      I think it’s a catch 22 for her-no more child support, what other income does she have? Unless she is hoping Monty will put her in his will.

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  4. Angel(?) says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:40 pm

    What? No comment on Brandi dropping the patch bomb to Lisa R. during their lunch? So, Kim is sober but still on on a journey to sobriety, Lisa R and Kyle need to fuck off, and Brandi is her best friend that is not brainwashing her. Got it Kim!

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    • addie2u says

      February 20, 2015 at 1:01 pm

      I’m just getting around to reading this weeks blogs & had to comment re “the patch bomb”. Unless something new has been recently developed there’s only 2 pain patches available on the market → Lidocaine which is just a mild anesthetic (similar to aspirin) and Fentanyl which is about 80 – 100x more potent than morphine & about 15 – 20x more potent than heroin. Fentanyl is highly abused & sought after by addicts.

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  5. KB says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Brandi the one going around telling anyone who’ll listen that Kim is on something? Kyle seems to be the one who is walking on eggshells in an effort not to accuse her of falling off the wagon. Brandi is making Kim ( who needs no help in this department) look like a helpless and pathetic loser all while claiming to be her best friend. Who puts their so called best friends business on front street like that. Wow… With friends like her boy….

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  6. Jess says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    She is nowhere near sober… I’ve got 7 1/2 months SOBER off opiates and long term prescribed benzo use. Taking someone elses pain meds because you pulled a muscle coughing IS A RELAPSE!! And, from my extensive experience (not proud of) with pharmaceuticals, she was NOT just on pain meds. She’s definitely has some underlying psychiatric issues that seem to be exacerbated by drug use.. Brandi is the LAST person she needs to be around. She and Brandi are probably popping pills together! This is a disturbing train wreck to watch.. Smh

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    • Angel(?) says

      February 13, 2015 at 2:57 pm

      Congratulations! Kim may have been dry, but never sober. She has never really changed her life style. She is a broken person from something in her past. I do not think Kim has ever been really held accountable for her actions or honest with herself. Until she is or does. . .well not good. Hopefully she will somehow get there.

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      • Jess says

        February 13, 2015 at 3:02 pm

        Thank you Angel(?)

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      • Angel(?) says

        February 13, 2015 at 3:21 pm

        Omg – if I could sit Kyle down make her see that she is enabling her and really needs help herself from al-anon, I would in a heartbeat! You can still be there for the person but not enabling. I hope you stay strong Jess! Sorry, I’m passing from the angry to the guilt phase of mourning my cousin who recently died of her addiction, but I love to hear about people beating their addictions!

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      • Jess says

        February 13, 2015 at 4:15 pm

        I’m sorry for your loss Angel(?)… Addiction is fucking hell, and I don’t wish it on my worst enemy! The enablers are just as sick as the addicts, IMO… But when we the addict feels bad, we get to use… When the enabler/family feels bad, they just feel bad. AlAnon would work wonders for Kyle, but I doubt she’d rip her head out of her ass and go.

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      • TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsYoya says

        February 13, 2015 at 6:12 pm

        You could tell she never completed the recovery process because a huge part of it is taking responsibility for how your addiction has affected the lives of others. The last reunion when someone was saying how Kim’s addiction had hurt them (can’t remember who) Kim cut them off saying she’d hurt HERSELF more than anything. HUGE red flag that she hadn’t recovered.

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      • Merilyn Zallan Ulrich says

        February 21, 2015 at 5:48 pm

        Read about her history with her Mother and you will have your answer as to what’s wrong with her AND Kyle.

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        • tamaratattles says

          February 21, 2015 at 6:44 pm

          ​Can we please stop with the Reading Rainbow selections? For the love of God, I’m sure people know how to use the Internet. They got HERE.

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    • CocoBrown says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:13 pm

      Congrats Jess.

      I agree with you Kim was never sober in my book. Her not taking accountability and responsibility for her disease but yet still finding manipulative ways to spin this all on Kyle is disheartening and pathetic! I would have no issue Kim having friends in her life but an enabler like Brandi isn’t someone she needs to be hanging with. They are bad for one another so as long she’s popping pills and Brandi drunk heavily and having an occasional Xanax.

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      • Merilyn Zallan Ulrich says

        February 21, 2015 at 5:53 pm

        I don’t think that Brandi’s Xanax use is “Occasional”. They both need long term rehab….just not with a quack like Dr. Drew (jack of all trades, master of none).

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    • memorymarieb says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:08 pm

      I’m currently at 7 mths clean from Opiates, Congrats on your success! ITA, there is prescription abuse going on but with something else as well. Kim clearly isn’t clean or sober. She is not accepting that she is an addict or has a problem at all. Full denial. She tells family what they want to hear to keep their financial support but doesn’t take any responsibility. Until she accepts that she’s an addict it will continue to get significantly worse.

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      • daintyfeets says

        February 13, 2015 at 7:24 pm

        Congratulations on your 7 months of clean time. I had a feeling you might be a newcomer. One day at a time. 🙂

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      • vivaladiva831 says

        February 13, 2015 at 10:51 pm

        I’m dealing with this with a loved one-how do you begin the process? There must be no pills around at all right? And you know what it’s like to want to quit but knowing how just HALF a pill could alleviate the pain-how do you tell them to hold out or relaxation techniques??

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    • Barbara says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:50 pm

      Perhaps she has brain damage from her addictions. I read somewhere that it takes 5 years for the brain to repair after severe alcohol abuse. I don’t know enough about it but i thought it could explain her behavior if in fact she really is sober.

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      • tamaratattles says

        February 13, 2015 at 8:36 pm

        Please don’t post random “facts” you read somewhere. Thanks.​

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      • RealChicagoHousewife says

        February 13, 2015 at 10:38 pm

        In truth it takes 7 years of sobriety to get to your best possible new normal. It’s not possible to repair the brain 100%. Alcohol is one of the most brain damaging of substances to abuse. The damage can be so extensive that even when a person is sober they slur their words, have short term memory problems, have balance issues, and possibly seizures unless they are given anti convulsants. This is not up be confused with what is known as a “dry drunk”. A dry drunk is someone who is sober but still engaging in addictive behaviors and addictive thinking.

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    • blondesense says

      February 13, 2015 at 6:10 pm

      I totally agree. As an addict with 2 years sobriety I am totally educated on what I can and can’t have – even down to certain cough lozenges. I had surgery recen with no pain relief. THAT was a relapse.

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    • Lawstangel says

      February 13, 2015 at 6:13 pm

      In the 3 years she has been on the show, not once has she ever mentioned going to ANY meeting, nor has she ever mentioned a sponsor. She ought to be looking to “program” people for support, not drunken Brandi!

      Jess-congrats I am a long term friend of Bill Wilson’s myself!

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    • Twilly says

      February 13, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      Congrats on your sobriety Jess! Stay strong.

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    • vivaladiva831 says

      February 13, 2015 at 10:48 pm

      That’s exactly what I think and have said before! They are pill poppers bffs for sure!

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  7. fivecatsownme says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions, Kim. You and Brandi deserve each other.

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  8. GirlFromKY says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    Ya know, all that blog was was a big bunch of jumbled nonsense spelled out into somewhat of a cohesive sentence structure, which doesn’t mean it makes any sense whatsoever!! Totally agree with TT’s interpretations. And for the life of me after all the times Kim has been called out (LVP, LisaR, etc), I just do not understand why she tries to continue to constantly bullshit everyone!?

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  9. Katherine says

    February 13, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    My skepticism over this pile of horseshit equals yours, TT. She’s working so hard to cover her tracks, and maybe set us up for what she does to Lisa R later this season.

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  10. kat0711 says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    Kim’s stories flow freely like the parasitic waters in that river in northern Africa whose name escapes me.

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    • tamaratattles says

      February 13, 2015 at 3:14 pm

      ​Could it be…..de Nile? 🙂

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      • Queen of the Nile says

        February 13, 2015 at 3:37 pm

        I thought I was the Queen of that river, but Kim has earned the crown. Her bullshit just pisses me off. Jeez — half the time she doesn’t even know what day it is on her “journey to sobriety.”

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  11. Kate says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    It is very clear to me and everyone else (except Kim and possibly Bravo) that Kim has fallen off the wagon again! She has relapsed! Kim…get some help! I really hope that we don’t see another tragedy here on Bravo with RHOBH again. Remember what happened to Russel? Taylor’s husband? I know that the circumstances are different, but Russel clearly had issues that made him act out on TV so the world could see, and now we have Kim who is using and acting out on TV while we are all watching her deteriorate in front of our eyes! Please Bravo…..she needs help..take her off the show. She needs rehab! As for Brandi…..she has dug her own grave. She needs to go!

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    • Simone says

      February 13, 2015 at 3:16 pm

      Isn’t this typical addict behavior from one surrounded by enablers? But people on the blog say not to let Kim hit rock bottom because death is better.
      Umm..OK….

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      • Angel(?) says

        February 13, 2015 at 3:35 pm

        It’s tricky and everyone is different. You have to stop enabling and try to get them to see that they need help from professionals. At the same time, you have to protect your emotional well being. Rock bottom, in my experience, is when the person sees for themselves that THEY have to change. They may not ever get there and die. The trick is how do you support someone until the realization without enabling and not watching them kill themselves? Are you doing more harm to the person than good? Addiction sucks for everyone!

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    • momoffourkids says

      February 13, 2015 at 3:48 pm

      I agree that Bravo should escort Kim away from that mess and keep her away.I think Kim has other problems besides the drinking/drugs from way back. I think she is about ready to break apart. She never seems strong to me, and is too gullible to anyone that pays her attention for more than a blink, like Brandi is doing now. I think Brandi wants Kim around so she (Brandi) doesn’t come across as the only drunkass wench. I don’t think Brandi is anywhere near as gullible or fragile mentally as Kim, and seems proud of her ‘truths’……so let that biotch drink herself silly.

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    • CocoBrown says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:07 pm

      You know what’s sick in all this once Brandi said something about suicide, Evolution should had asked Brandi if she was telling the truth after she filmed her scne with Lisa R. Lisa R even looked hell of uncomfortable when she said it. I get this is a reality tv show and Bravo wants their ratings, but it bothers my soul that Brandi, Bravo and Evolution didn’t attempt to tell Kyle that Kim is possibly suicidal. Kim could had or still could do something now that Brandi has told all that she’s not sober. Then that been another coffin and (maybe) ball game for this series. The sucky thing is Kyle would had probably been blamed for it since people think Kyle should be controlling Kim’s every move. And Brandi she would get away with it and spin the media, because that what that evil witch would do. Sickening!

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  12. Debs says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Not my fault….that’s an addicts refrain

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    • GeminiSister says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:26 pm

      Agreed. It’s always the fault of the person who calls out he addicts behavior – i.e. Kyle. And not Brandi b/c she’s enabling and protecting Kim because I think she’s afraid of what Kim will do if she is exposed. Classic emotional blackmail senario.

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      • Juleswha says

        February 14, 2015 at 9:06 pm

        And today Brandi took the time to post a pic of herself Jim and Kathy Hilton in her timeline. No doubt to show everyone that Kathy approves of their friendships ( and probably to stick it to Kyle a well)

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  13. Maisey says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    A rambling, delusional horseshit blog about everything but the truth.

    Oh, God……at least she didn’t mention turtles.

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    • Queen of the Nile says

      February 13, 2015 at 3:41 pm

      Too funny … I had forgotten about turtles – thanks for the reminder.

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  14. Microop says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Recovering addicts might put their children first but current addicts can’t. IF she were putting her children first she wouldn’t deny what is so planly obvious and would get help. Same goes for Brandi.

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  15. daintyfeets says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Unless kim is actively involved with a 12 step program, she’s a “dry” drunk/addict. Dry means not changing behavior, just not using. Drunks and addicts are masters of manipulation and don’t think twice about lying. That’s where the behavioral changes come in. Kim is obviously fucked up on something. Doesn’t matter what, she’s fucked up and not clean and sober. Between the ladies and all their discussions, I’m surprised no one has mentioned Al-Anon to Kyle. Detach with love is their motto. Love the addict still, but don’t enable or become involved in addicts I insanity.

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    • memorymarieb says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:28 pm

      Kim is clearly not sober, that said addiction is a disease. As a recovering addict I take offense to your statement that if an addict is not in AA that they are not really sober/clean and manipulative, a liar, and lacking in taking responsibilty. That is completely ignorant and wrong. Everyone is different, including addicts. AA does not work for everybody and to make such a generic blanket statement and apply it to every addict is dangerous. It’s also a complete slap in the face to every recovering addict who has not chosen the AA route but has still been successful. All your statement accomplished was to spread misinformation that feeds into negative stereotypes and damages the progress made in this country regarding drug addiction.

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      • Angel(?) says

        February 13, 2015 at 5:53 pm

        Very true, everyone has to find their path! Glad you have.

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      • daintyfeets says

        February 13, 2015 at 6:47 pm

        I’m well versed in the physciological and emotional aspects of addiction, MemoryMarieB. I’ve been dealing with it all my life and I made it a priority to educate myself. I am not responsible for your feelings, so I’m not going to apologize for hurting your feelings regarding my statements. However, I will point out you twisted my words around. I did NOT say “if an addict is not in AA that they are not really sober/clean and manipulative, a liar, and lacking in taking responsibility.” It’s true that one of the AA teachings is if you are not currently drinking or using, but not working on your recovery, you are a “dry drunk.” An addict can give up their DOC, but unless they work on their behavior, specifically the behavior that defines addicts and alcoholics (i.e., lying, being untruthful, manipulating, etc) then they just aren’t doing their DOC, but the behavior stays the same. Get that? I applaud every addict everywhere in the world for their attempts at recovery, their recovery, their time with recovery and the courage it took to get themselves recovered, no matter how they accomplished said recovery. Needless to say, I also take umbrage with your comment “All your statement accomplished was to spread misinformation that feeds into negative stereotypes and damages the progress made in this country regarding drug addiction.”

        Back to Kim, . . . she’s a dry drunk/alcoholic and you can tell by her behavior she wasn’t “working a program” so relapsing is not a surprise, to me.

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    • zoemonster2 says

      February 13, 2015 at 9:46 pm

      @daintyfeet One does not have to be in a 12 step program to recover. And there are armies of dry drunks *in* 12 step programs. #whateverworks 😉

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      • meredo says

        February 13, 2015 at 11:38 pm

        Sorry, I’m with memorymarieb on this one. I think ones ‘s success at sobriety is individual and 12 step is not the only way. I’ve had family members battle with substance abuse, one chose 12 step the other did not, said it just wasn’t his thing. They are both clean and sober 10 years later.

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  16. becca says

    February 13, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    So sad. Really?Notice she says “sober” not “clean”. I dont believe her DOC is alcohol. I used that logic before. If I hadnt used any opiates or cocaine but had a few drinks I was “clean” always using word play. But the denial catches up with you always. Today is my one year clean and sober! 2/13/14 I found myself in detox after having signed myself out AMA a day before. I couldnt deny anymore. I had lost 15 pounds in a week, dehydrated and close to death. It works if you work it!

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    • Angel(?) says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:50 pm

      Happy anniversary!

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  17. CocoBrown says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:00 pm

    Oh so Kim isn’t going to address Brandi throwing her under the bus to Lisa R and making her into a sad, suicidal case! Yet Lisa R and Kyle are bad in all this. Get real Kim, we are light years ahead of your junkie manipulation. Kim’s blog has so much blaming, lying, and denial! I want her off the show. I can’t take another season of this garbage with her.

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  18. puppylove says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Hi TT I have a question I think only you can answer. How does Kim make her money to live on if not from Bravo? Is Kyle still supporting her? If she is kicked off of the show zilch on the bucks right?

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    • Micheal says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:57 pm

      Kathy Hilton.

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      • CocoBrown says

        February 13, 2015 at 5:17 pm

        Yep. Good Big sister probably has been had by Kim and she feeds Kim’s pocketbook. Least that what I believe.

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      • Angel(?) says

        February 13, 2015 at 5:56 pm

        I don’t see Kathy Hilton parting with her money to support Kim.

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    • cavex2 says

      February 13, 2015 at 7:54 pm

      Someone mentioned in a past post that Kim receives $100k a year from her ex-hubby for alimony/child support. Her son is a minor, so I assume she still gets the support.

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      • beth says

        February 13, 2015 at 8:09 pm

        Really? I thought all of her kids were in their 20’s by now …

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      • tamaratattles says

        February 13, 2015 at 8:44 pm

        Please don’t post stuff you heard from someone somewhere. Kim has no minor children. ​

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    • Twilly says

      February 13, 2015 at 8:13 pm

      All of her exes were very wealthy. I’m sure she got a lot of alimony and child support.

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  19. lisamia says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Kim is vicious. I feel sorry for her family and kids.

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    • Simone says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:11 pm

      Agree, Kim should be off the show. If I want to see people arguing and trying to reason with an addict I can witness that every first of the month in any ccity or town in the US. This drug addict crap on TV is not a source of entertainment for me. I am sorry I’ve been through this s*** with family in real life and this is not eit’s almost damn offending honestly offending for bravo to use the storyline is offending to any drug addict recovering drug addict or family member of a drug addict it is. simone TV will not be on RHOBH anymore either.

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  20. Frosty says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Reading that was saddening. Kim’s just not getting it, doesn’t want to get it, determined to work her own invented program of denial, emotional manipulation and making shit up. Her poor family.

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  21. Anoneemouse says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    “I don’t appreciate Lisa R. talking about me in a derogatory way behind my back and about my supposed problems to everyone around us when she doesn’t even really know me or anything about my journey to sobriety.”

    REALLY? Lisa sitting next to you for hours in the car and watching you at poker night should not have clued her (and everyone else) in that you were on something?

    Must be nice living in the land of delusion. Maybe that’s where she just returned from?

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  22. Anastasia_Beave says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    I don’t know who she thinks she’s fooling.

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  23. lisapatsays says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    My thoughts exactly T.. except it was Monty with the problem. He is terminal so he has become addicted to Oxys.. and Kim lives with him so it gets sticky.. it probably isnt good for her to have all those pain meds in her home even though she is only person Monty has to rely on.

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    • CocoBrown says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:56 pm

      She’s probably stealing his stash…
      I have no trust in an addict like Kim. She will lie and scapegoat just so no one will come for her and so she can keep using. I wish Brooke would come in and take over control of taking care of her father then Kim. Kim is 50 yrs old and going through empty nest syndrome. Keeping Monty near her along with his drugs is a comfort for her.

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    • Angel(?) says

      February 13, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      I am suspicious if Monty and Kim didn’t enable each other in their youths. I have nothing to base it on other than what Kim about Monty just disappearing and ‘re-appearing. Plus who just gives cancer pain meds to an alcoholic? I wondering when Kim started abusing substances?

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    • Twilly says

      February 13, 2015 at 8:15 pm

      I’m sure Monty has nurses/hospice care. I doubt it’s just a kim caring for him in his condition. He is living with her and “in her care” but a professional has to be involved too. For him to rely on, I mean.

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      • lisapatsays says

        February 13, 2015 at 10:32 pm

        Oh for sure.. monty probably has in-home hospice care and hired nurses.. but he also has prescription medications for pain. In the very end stage, he will be placed on a morphine drip once bedridden. But while he is still up and walking, he will have countless scripts for strong pain meds as all terminal patients do. No doubt there are pain meds all over Kims home and is she at a place where she can resist taking one for a pulled muscle or a sore back.. or if she slept wrong?? I dont think so. She is right on the edge of relapse. Even if alcohol is her drug of choice, an addict will move to try anything thinking its not relapsing bc its not their drug of choice. Like kim popping a pill and calling herself sober bc it wasnt a drink. I hope she finds a sponsor soon.. someone to call other than Brandi. Thats like a serial killer having an urge to kill and calling charles manson for advice.

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  24. Duc Trung says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    it’s only a matter of time before Brandi turns on Kim and spills all her secrets. that won’t be pretty.

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    • CocoBrown says

      February 13, 2015 at 4:59 pm

      Well shes already said Kim isn’t sober and hinting Kim is suicidal.

      Reply
  25. Microop says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Brandi better hope nothing happens to kim while she is enabling her because if she thinks people hate her now, it can get so much worse.

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    • GeminiSister says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      Oh come on! Only Kim is responsible for her actions.

      Reply
  26. Micheal says

    February 13, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    Ooooh so the phonecalls in question were about Kim’s son I’m guessing. Now it makes sense why Kyle said that Kim told Brandi too much.

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    • Micheal says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      I completely understand where Kyle is coming from now. She is probably over protecting Kim, but is concerned Brandi can hurt Kim’s son for a storyline. Poor Kyle. Always stuck between an addict and a drunk.

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    • tamaratattles says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:32 pm

      ​Yes, Michael And “someone” leaked it to TMZ which is how we know….

      On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

      >

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      • Micheal says

        February 13, 2015 at 5:38 pm

        Would this ‘someone’ have a history of exposing tampon strings? 😀

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        • tamaratattles says

          February 13, 2015 at 8:32 pm

          perhaps…​

          On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

          >

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    • Twilly says

      February 13, 2015 at 8:17 pm

      Wait what? What about her son?

      Reply
      • Micheal says

        February 14, 2015 at 12:37 am

        I think maybe we should leave her son alone. He isn’t really a part of the show…

        All you need to know is that Kim possibly discussed family stuff with Brandi who seemingly will/has divulged tidbits for relevance.

        Sorry if that crossed the line TT (if it did just delete my comment).

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  27. J.D. (@JaMailMail) says

    February 13, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    Ahh that makes sense. The phone call was about her son. Aww I feel so bad. We know how sensitive Kim is especially when it comes to her children. Something like that would definitely be cause for concern.

    It makes more sense why this phone call situation is such a big deal and why Kyle is upset that Brandi would keep mentioning it… Kyle is so right to be worried about Kim sharing such personal things with her.

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    • Micheal says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      I agree. At this point I suspect Kyle is concerned for her nephew and that is why she is freaking out about Kim and Brandi’s relationship. Especially after Brandi made that comment about Yolanda’s daughter. Brandi respects no boundaries.

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  28. sequoia says

    February 13, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    Kyle Richards really needs to get herself to an Al-anon meeting and the sooner the better,

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    • CocoBrown says

      February 13, 2015 at 5:52 pm

      Yep Kyle has never handled Kim’s addiction well at all. She needs to talk to someone professional to give her somewhat of a peace of mind and education how to deal with Kim’s addiction, whether Kim wants to be healthy or not. At this rate, Kyle could have a meltdown, high blood pressure or heart attack with all the stress she’s under dealing with Kim.

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    • Lawstangel says

      February 13, 2015 at 6:22 pm

      I am surprised she has not been involved in Al-anon. There is a person in Kyle’s inner circle of friends that has been sober a long time (I have seen this person at meetings.) I wonder if it was ever suggested….

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      • ZenJen54 says

        February 13, 2015 at 7:05 pm

        Faye Resnik

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      • Katherine says

        February 13, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        As much as I dislike FR, I embrace the “anonymous” in AA.

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      • Gilette says

        February 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

        I never understood all of the Faye hatred. So, she wrote a book. Big deal. It was about her experiences and beliefs.

        I hope she comes back as a housewife. She is controversial enough to make it interesting, but not a sad sack case.

        The only smart thing Brandi has ever said is that LeAnn should be a housewife. I’m sure it was said with a lot of snark and vicious intent, but I’d watch LeAnn every week.

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      • J.D. (@JaMailMail) says

        February 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm

        I love The Morally Corrupt, Faye Resnick! Since Brandi isn’t allied with Lisa now, I’m sure people would look at the past season of Faye destroying Brandi in a different light…

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      • Gilette says

        February 14, 2015 at 9:44 am

        Best line ever on RHoBH:

        Faye to Brandi: You will never be a lady, no matter how many Chanel bags you borrow.

        End scene.

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  29. beth says

    February 13, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    I wonder if Kim’s children have tried to talk to her about what is going on; surely they see it too. If she won’t listen to her sister Kyle, maybe she would listen to her children.

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    • Angel(?) says

      February 13, 2015 at 6:08 pm

      That’s what I think too! If Kim is as passionate as she seems to be about her children, I think Brooke should sit her down and say I don’t want to loose my mother AND my father. Of course Kim’s addiction might be too strong for that statement to get through. Hell, Kim’s children might also be in denial.

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  30. breelee says

    February 13, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    I’m curious how the recovered addicts here feel about all the Kim slamming.? I’ve always heard addiction is an illness, so it would appear a sick person is being trashed. I feel sorry for her and wish she’d get help, and I cant speak bad about the situation as I’ve never dealt with drug abuse. If half of what I heard about her childhood is true, I feel she needs intense therapy before she can get better. I also don’t see Kyle as being of any help to Kim, seems she only cries and blames Kim for everything. I still cant fathom why Kyle would encourage Kim to be on the HW’s in the 1st place, and I wonder if Bravo knew about Kim’s problems before hiring her.

    If one of my sisters were like Kim, I’d be protective of her and keep my own emotions out of any of our interactions. I’d wait till I was away from her to break down. I’d also find out the best way to help her. Kyle needs to realize she’s no longer helping and figure out how to back off or show Kim the right path to take. I know I’ll get slammed for this post, but the grand kids are here so I’m in a mushy mood. : )

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    • tamaratattles says

      February 13, 2015 at 8:45 pm

      You have no idea what you are talking about or what you would do in Kyle’s situation.​

      On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

      >

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  31. Twilly says

    February 13, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    She admitted taking a pain pill on national television yet continues to say she’s been sober for 3 years. We saw her relapse and the admission of relapse. Problem is SHE won’t acknowledge it was a relapse. She is such an addict all the way to her core and her entire thought process. Sad. She’ll never achieve true sobriety with her current mind frame.

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    • daintyfeets says

      February 13, 2015 at 8:45 pm

      A persons addiction affects everyone in their environment. Usually negatively. The chaos and insanity, along with the lies, manipulations, etc. affect the family members, co-workers, and on. Relapses are devastating on family members, and others in the addict enviornment. It takes a long time to earn trust again when one stops using. Then they relapse again, lie about it (usually), finally admit it and expect people to just believe with them. Klyle has been dealing with Kim’s addictions for years.

      I watched the episodes with my sister, who was incredibly damaged by my alcoholism. We were both sick to our stomachs while watching. Interestingly enough, we both had sympathy for Kyle, even though in our scenario my sister was “Kyle.” Kyle has been going through this with her sister since the first time Kim picked up. Years and years of broken promises, lies, poor judgment, etc. Then to be told, it’s all over now, I’m sober/clean. And then it happens again.

      Kim is sick, I get that. She shouldn’t be on this show and she shouldn’t be living with Monty (because of the drugs he brings to the situation.) I feel bad for her, but more disgusted with her than anything. Maybe because her behavior is so familiar to my own at one time and that makes it personal because watching her is like watching myself when I was drinking.

      Also, Breelee, Kyle can’ts help her. No one can. Kim is the only one that can help herself.
      She will continue to do what she does and people will once again fall to the wayside. I hope she gets help before her family decides to “detach with love” and stop enabling her and stop making excuses for her. She needs to hit that bottom and even today, six months after filming, my guess is she is still using. Otherwise her blogs would be honest and not full of bullshit excuses.

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      • Twilly says

        February 13, 2015 at 10:09 pm

        Im very familiar with addiction/alcoholism having experienced it within my own family.

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  32. zoemonster2 says

    February 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    This is how Kim acknowledged her fentanyl patch abuse:

    Paste
    Kyle is my sister, and Brandi is my friend, so naturally I was just hoping they could PATCH things up.

    End paste

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    • Gilette says

      February 14, 2015 at 9:43 am

      So Freudian.

      I love that shit.

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    • spk says

      February 14, 2015 at 12:54 pm

      Smart arse – so funny!

      Reply
  33. vivaladiva831 says

    February 13, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    If Kim wants to get sober and stay sober, she will have to stop being on this show where the alcohol flows like water. There is no way an addict can recover, in early days especially, while having it in your face constantly. She may not drink anymore but she has traded one addiction for another. And Brandi, I hope you are aware of the withdrawals you will have from a XANAX addiction. I’m talking about anxiety so high she will think she is having a heart attack

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    • sequoia says

      February 14, 2015 at 11:03 am

      I worked in a bar when I gave up drinking in 1986. Other peoples drinking was never my problem, my drinking was my problem. I had a slip after 18 years and it was nobodies fault but my own. I’ve been happily sober again for 3 years and know the danger an alcoholic faces with the first drink or the first pill. Kim will get sober and hopefully recovery when she is ready. In the mean time her friends and family need to let her know that this is not a game and stop enabling her addiction. They can’t change Kim, they can only change themselves which is why I suggested Al-anon.

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      • spk says

        February 14, 2015 at 1:05 pm

        Would be so great if Kyle went to Al-anon, if only to start drawing boundaries for herself and her interaction with Kim. I was pretty lucky in that, when I was invited to go to my friends Al-anon meeting, it was unusual bc they combined the AA and Al-anon groups to meet together. It was so beneficial for the “Al-anon’s” to hear addicts talk candidly, and visa versa. You could see a lot of compassion and awareness develop btw the 2 groups, something they’d had a hard time extending to the people in their families or close circle.

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  34. Micheal says

    February 14, 2015 at 12:43 am

    I don’t understand the thought process of ‘Kyle should go to al-anon’. Is there really much point if Kim is still in denial about her addiction and her relapse? Kyle should ditch Kim and just focus on her other family members. All this energy wasted on an ungrateful sister who has befriended a disgusting enabler. I am probably too harsh, but I wouldn’t have the patience if my sibling was acting like Kim.

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    • Gilette says

      February 14, 2015 at 9:46 am

      Michael, I’m totally in agreement with you. And I believe that’s what they would say at Al-Anon.

      I think when people suggest it (including myself), what they are really saying is “Kyle, get yourself some help in getting out of the situation”

      Whether it is Al-Anon or a new phone number doesn’t matter, as long as she gets away from feeling responsible for the actions of her sister.

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      • Micheal says

        February 14, 2015 at 12:49 pm

        That makes sense. I always assumed Kyle had a very well paid psychologist and/or psychiatrist who tells her similar things but the more the merrier.

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      • Gilette says

        February 14, 2015 at 2:56 pm

        Michael, if I’m not mistaken, Mauricio’s mom is a psychologist. I believe his family is likely partly responsible for the normalcy in Kyle’s life.

        She may not be perfect (honestly, she can annoy the piss out of me), but she is functional and loving, which is a far cry from where she could have ended up.

        I’m impressed with Kyle’s life journey and the strength it must have taken to achieve a happy family atmosphere with the turmoil she came from.

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        • lisamia says

          February 14, 2015 at 3:34 pm

          @Gilette, I agree. Kyle’s journey has been amazing and I applaud her and all her accomplishments. She is a testament to finding order in the chaos. I think Mauricio’s mother has been the glue for all of them. I hope the rumors about Mauricio aren’t true. You never know if what you are getting is real on these shows, but he seems like a really sweet guy who adores his wife and kids. I hope that’s the case.

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      • Gilette says

        February 14, 2015 at 4:45 pm

        lisamia: I have a pretty strong feeling that the rumors are true, but let’s remember that they have been married a long time. There is never an excuse for cheating, but it sounds like an indiscretion that doesn’t detract from the love in the marriage.

        I can’t remember the rules on “the gossip”, so I’ll keep it to myself, but honestly, most married couples have slip-ups at one time or another. I think Mauricio’s was more indiscretion than affair and he probably learned a tough lesson about curiosity and what it did to the cat.

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        • tamaratattles says

          February 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm

          ​My sources indicate that Mauricio enjoys an occasional professional but is not having an affair.

          On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

          >

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          • zoemonster2 says

            February 14, 2015 at 5:31 pm

            omg– do I need to subscribe to comments to get straight unadulterated tea like this? ^^^ Mauricio gets serviced occasionally❓❗️❓-

            Hmmmm. Does he ever come to the dirty South?

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            • tamaratattles says

              February 14, 2015 at 7:24 pm

              ​Nope. Vegas. Allegedly.

              On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

              >

            • zoemonster2 says

              February 14, 2015 at 7:35 pm

              Hmmm. I might like comment subscription addiction after all;)

              >

      • Micheal says

        February 14, 2015 at 6:03 pm

        I suspect that Kyle ‘allows’ Mauricio to have a bit of fun on the side, as long as it is discreete and wont impact their family. Many people I know have similar arrangements. No judgment from me.

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      • CocoBrown says

        February 14, 2015 at 6:24 pm

        I do agree that Kyle doesn’t get enough credit for being around this long putting up with Kim’s addiction. Think having to spend most of your life worrying and stressed for not just a few years, but decades! Viewers can say all day Kyle is being dramatic, selfish, whiny or playing it up for the cameras like she cares (all which I disagree with) but everyone has their breaking point when it comes to having a love with addiction at some point. Im putting myself in Kyle’s shoes and it has to be tough. She’s in such a damned if she does and doesn’t situation thanks to Kim. She has 4 children of her own, a husband, and her business. Kyle has to find her boundaries with Kim.

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    • beth says

      February 14, 2015 at 9:52 am

      Micheal, Al-Anon is meant to help friends and relatives of alcoholics, not the alcoholic – the energy would be spent on helping Kyle, not Kim.

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      • Micheal says

        February 14, 2015 at 12:50 pm

        Ahh, I see. Yeah I agree that at this point Kyle needs to be selfish and focus on her and her families mental well being and just cut Kim out.

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    • Microop says

      February 14, 2015 at 1:01 pm

      That’s what al anon teaches. They would teach Kyle that she can’t fix kim and it is okto focus on herself. I’m in Al anon and it’s helped me learn how to free myself of a lot of bs.

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  35. SantaFeWay says

    February 14, 2015 at 12:49 am

    Glad you’re back!

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  36. JustJenn says

    February 14, 2015 at 12:51 am

    She just got out of the hospital and no mention of “the pain”? That sure went away fast. I didn’t know that fractured ribs and ruptured discs healed so quickly. Huh.

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    • Gilette says

      February 14, 2015 at 9:48 am

      Along those same Freudian lines, I think Kim was referring to “the pain” as the emotional pain that she is using as an excuse.

      She clearly went through some hard times with her ex, her son, and her persistent personal problems. I believe she was using these as the excuse for her “relapse” (which I don’t believe was a relapse, merely captured on video), thus “the pain”.

      Just my thoughts, not fact.

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      • CocoBrown says

        February 14, 2015 at 6:26 pm

        If Kim ever was sober. Kim is an actress, I wouldn’t be surprised if she had most of us fooled she was clean last season. I’m starting to believe more and more she wasn’t.

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  37. Rose says

    February 14, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    So agree with TT. I have a soft spot for Kim and really want to see her obtain and maintain sobriety. She is clearly in denial about her relationship with her sister and with entrusting Brandi. I do agree that Lisa R is not in a position for an intervention and a real professional is needed. I just don’t see this ending well for the Richards sisters because Kim is unwilling to recognize the ever deepening wedge Brandi is purposely creating. It saddens me when she supposedly says she doesn’t know how to fix it. .talk to your sister without hiding behind Brandi.

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  38. spk says

    February 14, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    Lisa R is right––everyone seems scared to confront Kim / her addiction and speak out to it. Kim was the primary bread-winner for the family when she was a kid. Just imagine how everyone probably tip-toed around not pissing her off and keeping the money train going. Looks like maybe the pattern started early and continues today. Enabling comes in all shapes, at all ages.

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    • Gilette says

      February 14, 2015 at 4:49 pm

      Lisa R is going to find out WHY everyone is afraid of Kim. Kim starts a rumor about Lisa’s husband, thus the glass of wine thrown at Kim by Lisa R in the season previews.

      People are afraid of Kim because it is SMART to be afraid of Kim. She is underhanded and devious.

      I’m looking forward to see how this progresses. Lisa R is one of my faves and it seems like she gets drawn into the drama instead of staying above it.

      Happens to the best of us at times.

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      • CocoBrown says

        February 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm

        That could be another reason why no one will say “Kim is using something.” Other than Brandi who did it behind Kim’s back to Lisa R. Kim will lie on you/your personal life or she could say something she knows about you all because one is “in her business.”

        Plus, some here have pointed out that if they say she’s addict or Kim even admits shes one on camera that could effect her getting work in Hollywood. It’s one thing to be a drunk because their are plenty of them in LA but to be known as a “drug addict” it’s almost a totally different story.

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  39. smjluv3 says

    February 14, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Years ago when my Mother in law was in the early stages of alzheimiers. My husband and I became her caretakers. This was extremely difficult as she was still competent to make decisions on her own, she just needeed to be guided. She had always been very self centered and did not understand the value of money or what she did was wrong. When she would ask us if she could do something and we said no. She would just ask someone till she got the answer she wanted, then we became the enemy. This is what kim is doing, it becomes exhausting for the family that is trying to do the right thing. You end up getting accused of very hurtful things.My husband ended up having 2 strokes and we eventually had to cut my Mother in law off,for our own health. If kim won’t lisiten then they need to cut her off. Brandi will continue to enable her, because she needs someone that she can point to and say, I’m not like her, I’m helping her. Yolanda is not helping anyone, she is a friend for show only.

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  40. Josie says

    February 14, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Delusional isnt a strong enough description for this recap. Kim says it was never about alcohol and drugs. No words. The delusion is REAL.

    I dont see how Kim & Kyle’s relationship will ever get better if Kim still cant see the thruth after seeing actual video and audio of what occurred.

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    • Kate says

      February 14, 2015 at 6:45 pm

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  41. TBella212 says

    February 15, 2015 at 7:16 am

    The only reason Kim wanted to “nurse” cough, Monty. Hello access to really good drugs.

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  42. kathy444 says

    February 15, 2015 at 10:38 am

    I could not agree with you MORE!!!! You hit the nail right on the head with this Kim business. She is just a mess and I am sick of her being a cry baby. She is pitting Kyle and Brandi against each other to make herself feel special and it just makes her look pathetic, in my opinion.

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