It’s time for more RHOBH! Are you ready? I’m not. So this recap will likely be later than usual. Still setting up. Is that a new opening ? Has Eileen’s always been in an blue evening gown with her hair up? What are they trying to do to her? Are all of those evening gown things new? I normally zip through but tonight I was uploading pictures.
We are back at the gay mixer. Which reminds me I so wanted to do a post in favor of the whole “my gays” thing but I’ve been busy and hormonal. It could still happen. I think the new younger politically correct gays are being ridiculous.* (* except for @NewJerzeyBoy who I love despite his PCness on this issue.)
Anyway. I hate when Kyle gets all up in her whining crying voice as much as the next person but I think she is being genuine in those moments. Kim’s talking heads on the other hand are such a put on. Kim is crying in one corner. and Kyle in the other. Brandi and her gay roommate finally get the hint and take Kim out of there.
Kim is clearly on something again and Brandi is clearly enabling. We don’t need to keep pointing this out.
Kyle is crying to Lisa and says that Brandi is always spewing wrong information. Vanderpump, in an attempt to commiserate says, ” Now you know how I felt last season.” and Kyle misplaces her anger onto Lisa and yells “This is not about you!” Oh Kyle, people can agree and share a similar sentiment and experience and that does not mean they are making it about themselves. It’s called sharing a similar experience. Lisa is trying to console Kyle despite the misplaced anger. Bravo production decides to play the creepy sepia (ish) scenes with Kim and Kyle at Kim’s house. Why do they waste so much time reshowing footage like it’s a daytime soap?
Kim, Brandi and the dude, don’t really leave. They sit outside and film some more.
Lisa says that everyone is enabling an addict. Kim has everyone scared and no one wants to deal with it.
Why are Kyle and Lisa promoting 50 Shades of Gray? I mean I get it’s money but I guess the movie thinks RHOBH viewers are their target demo. What about Kandi Burruss? LOL. More presales have happened in the south than anywhere else. The most is in Mississippi where sex toys are banned. Or is that Alabama. Anyway, southerners are kinky. I’m just saying. I think the BH crowd would be worried about getting their hair mussed or having to cover a mark or 12 . /innocent look
Brandi Glanville
Who is Brandi sucking off? What? I’m just saying. Her life is certainly not interesting enough for one ghostwritten book let alone two. I’m not sure how much money a podcast makes… but she did have Larry King on recently. I hope that wasn’t the suckee.. Just saying. Something is “fishy” pun intended with her whole situation. She has some good PR people that is for damn sure.
OMG she has Heather McDonald from Chelsea Lately. Chelsea hates Brandi so either this will go very badly or Heather is desperate now that Chelsea no longer has a show. Brandi has said many times she wants to be the new Chelsea Handler. She has sucked off made out with Chelsea’s brother in an attempt to get close to Chelsea, ALLEGEDLY. ACCORDING TO TABLOIDS I HAVE READ. THIS MAY NOT BE TRUE.
Yolanda Foster
Time for Yolanda to try to have an intervention with Brandi. I mean a yoga session. With a really hot black male yogi. I’m going to skip over the comment where Brandi says they will both suck together. Okay, I’m not. That was intentional and real, not drunk (perhaps) Brandi. Ooh child’s pose. My favorite. Brandi has weak ankles and can’t hit any other pose steadily. I can relate. But I used to really love yoga until I ballooned up and now I can’t find my balance anymore. 🙁
After the yogi leaves, Yolanda starts to try to tell Brandi she has a problem. In her talking head, Brandi says that all of this talk about her drinking too much just makes her want to drink more. Because she has the mentality of a 14 year old girl. Sadly she is FORTY TWO. There are maybe 3 more stops on the train before menopause. When is she going to grow up?
Yolanda says that she is hurt that everyone says that Brandi is an alcoholic. She pauses and says if she is, she will gladly help her. Brandi says “If I was, there is no shame in my game, I would seek help.” It’s that whole, “No shame” part that makes it clear she has an issue. What she needs is some shame. Or more directly some guilt. But that would require introspection. Yolanda says if that is her problem she can come to her for help. Brandi uses the same excuse she has for seasons….” If that were my problem I would not be able to get up and get the boys to school.” She should be very careful about what she says because if the boys have a history of missing school or being late? This is totally ammo for Eddie and Leann to yank those boys out of her house.
After Brandi says she could not have a successful podcast, book deal, show up for the filmings etc if she were an alcoholic. Yolanda says, but you could also make the choice not to drink to the point where you become an asshole. Yolanda says she is raising daughters. She can’t be a hypocrite. Brandi says well people say that about your daughter and she is not an alcoholic. Yolanda says, “Who said that about my daughter?” Real answer? No one. Brandi’s answer? She shrugs and says, “People have been saying that lately. She’s not she made a mistake.” Yolanda says she has not heard anyone say that about her daughter. Dear god there is still half an hour of this show.
Yolanda says, “Here we go. You are now personally attacking me about my daughter when I am just trying to help you.” Ah, Yolanda may be seeing the light.
Lisa Vanderpump
In the previews or rewind for last week maybe, I heard Max say “I just want to know what generation American I am.” Um, so if you adopt an American baby… Nevermind. Let me not go there. Vanderpump already has me blocked on the twatter for posting about her court cases in accurate detail. I like Lisa Vanderpump. I just have to be objective when it comes to legal cases.
Lisa and Pandora are shopping for something related to their Sangria launch. She brings up Max’s desire to explore his roots. I think Pandy’s comments are juvenile. They both cry. Why? He just wants to know his heritage. I can’t really relate to this storyline.
Max and Lisa talk about him seeing his real name. They are going over his heritage. It’s Scandinavian and Irish. Max says he has no need to meet his parents. He’s rich now.
Eileen Davidson
The ladies go to the Burbank Film Festival with Eileen (no addicts invited, and Yolanda is away). Eileen has had two sister that passed away recently. I’d find out why but I am way behind on recapping. Maybe later. In the filmed scene which could have been a refilm, they point out that both Brandi and Kim are addicts.
All the while, Kyle seems butt hurt that Eileen is at the Burbank Film Festival and doing an interview on what Eileen herself has called a bath mat (with a step and repeat). I find it tacky that Kyle can’t be happy for Eileen. I don’t care if it is on par with the opening of a Burger King. If you job is to be there and support your on camera friend, why be so nasty and so rude? The director of the festival doesn’t even know what soap she was won an Emmy for. IT WAS DAYS OF OUR LIVES, BITCHES! Not Y&R. Because DOOL is the best soap on TV. I say that despite having a relative who was a big star on Y&R I think. Anyway, something for another day. The Lisas and Kyle can’t seem to get behind an Indie film sort of event in a shopping mall. #eyeroll. I tell you what. I bought the winning PowerBall
Oh dear God. Eileen! We shan’t talk about this movie ever again. Let’s pretend this never happened.
Later, Eileen meets with Kyle And Kim to share about the lost of her sister. She is hoping her story can bring Kyle and Kim together. Eileen says she had four sisters. One died five years ago, and one died four months ago. So she is extremely emotional about sister relationships. Her oldest sister died of a heart attack unexpectedly. The more recent death was from complications from breast cancer. Eileen is really still dealing with it all. She is hoping to bring the two sisters together. Kim acknowledges that Kyle has been there for her despite what Brandi said, but there were still moments she was not there and she is still holding on to that. Kyle says she feels the same way..progress?
Kim then goes on to defend Brandi. I just can’t. Kyle tries to tell her that Brandi brings up her private conversations to everyone. But she is not listening. Kyle is concerned that Kim has shared too much with Brandi and it will come to harm her in the end. Kim looks high in her talking heads where she claims that Kyle is “a little mixed up.” This whole thing is sad. Kim is doing some REALLY bad acting here about how difficult it was for her to call Brandi and share information. The cry talking comes into play. Kyle says Brandi says horrible things to her right in front of Kim like the comment about Mauricio not wanting her. Kim claims she didn’t hear that. Kyle says that is a convenient excuse.
Fighting. I am so behind I can’t recap this. Nothing is resolved and Eileen feels helpless.
Lisa Rinna
She had the :40 with her trying to deal with her teenaged daughter. I love her. Clearly the “normal” stuff is sacrificed for the drama. 🙁
Lisa and Brandi meet for lunch or something in clashing leopard prints. Lisa apparently did one of Brandi’s podcasts so Brandi feels comfortable. Lisa wants to know why Brandi is so mean. What is her core issue? Why is she an addict is basically what she is asking.
Brandi says that Kim has told her she is her best friend. It’s hard for her because she is not a sober companion, and she just has to do her. Lisa points out that Kim is high. Brandi says she just had a hernia and she is just doing the patch. When I paused to type this Brandi is showing all of the physical cues of someone lying.
Lisa points out that Kim is using. Brandi is enabling. Brandi thinks she is protecting her. Brandi knows that Kim is high. Brandi thinks that if she mentions that Kim is high, Kim would die. Brandi wants Lisa Rinna to talk to Kyle about it.
Next week: There is some sort of surprise party for Vanderpump. Kyle and Kim seem to be fine and running lines together. Oh wait they are in puppet therapy together. Or something. Brandi talks to her *cough* BFF about feeling like she might not need to drink in front of Kim #eyeroll. and the Lisas talk about a possible intervention with Kim but Vanderpump is reluctant.
I think that Kyle’s anxiety over Kim is very real. I think Kim is acting when she does her talking heads, etc. I love Lisa R and her scenes with everyone. Most of all, I love Lisa R’s talking heads. I hate watching these meltdowns of Kyle and Kim. They are too upsetting and depressing for me. Kim is NOT sober.
Who do I need to blow to get Kim off of the show??
That would be me.
I didn’t see THAT coming. So to speak.
Me.
I was too late.
I’m the head of the line…
However, the um, head of the line thing was amusing.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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No offense dear, but I would like to skip to Captain Eel….
No offense taken. I’d also point out this wouldn’t be the first time a line has formed behind me…
Sorry, you have the better personality, but um.. you know. 🙂
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Ewww, you go girl!
that would be Andy
Thank you! My favorite line of the day!
Hahahahah I didn’t have to scroll too far to get a good laugh!!
Am I the only one who finds Lisa Rinna to be fake and silly? She tries so hard to be clever and real and can’t seem to pull it off. She seems horribly uncomfortable and her “lines” on the show seem scripted (like on a Soap?) Kim is a waste of space and so is her fellow addict and enabler ,Brandi. Kyle is annoying, selfish and obnoxious..why am I watching this dreck? Yolanda must still be very sick because she looks washed out and her flat face is not attractive. Again, why am I watching this show? Eileen was obviously told to set up a scene with the sisters but I still like her the most of all of these awful, useless women. I was bored stiff after wasting a precious hour of my life and I still don’t know why I am watching this? Tamra I admire you for recapping this mess and I sympathize with you because this is such a waste of time and energy.
ITA with you Merilyn….Lisa said she would be drunk on two glasses of wine..Does anyone remember her when she hosted an award show (I can’t remember which one) and everyone said she was drunk on air and did a horrible job hosting?
Just because Lisa isn’t flashing her wares, insulting everyone, crying in every scene or just being a hot mess, doesn’t make her fake and silly. Frankly I would take fake and silly over the expectation of over the top housewives Bravo has created.
Brandi’s blog is up and i have just one question. Does anybody believe that Brandi wrote that? The write does not even attempt to write in Brandi’s “voice.” Does this mean that Brandi has conceded that she is a functional illiterate who cannot string two sentences together, or that she needs a professional writer to attempt to defend her behavior? Oh, boy.
She just makes herself look worse, and i guess she thinks we are all stupid.
I think Kyle talked Kim into doing this show not just for a steady income, but to hope it would give her something to do and keep her sober. You can tell Kim is extremely embarrassed and afraid of being labeled an addict-or is looking at her addiction as people will label her an addict.
I agree!
Yes, I find it interesting Brandi is already tired of putting up with Kim’s addiction and they only been BFFs for 6 months and telling all to Lisa R. Well damn how do think Kyle and the rest of their family feels like dealing with this for over 3 decades, Brandi! Pretty damn fed up.
I understand lvp getting emotional, but I really didn’t understand why pandora was crying.
Glad lvp didn’t react negatively to kyles anger, but kept consoling her. Sorry guys I just like them being friends
Brandi was real quick to throw kim under the bus to lisa r, brandi is no ones true friend.
Jack hole of the week should go to bravo. I really can’t believe they are making Kim’s addiction the front and center storyline. Kim needs to be off the show not exploited for ratings or money
In light of the tabloids exploiting Bobbi Kristina’s death… It makes Bravo look even worse. Especially if Kim doesn’t pull out of this. And Kyle and Kim are still estranged… so … why isn’t Bravo’s legal team pointing out another suicide would not be a good look?
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Sometimes I wonder if she hasn’t threatened that if she’s fired….
Alexa, she did in a roundabout way. I think it was last reunion she said the show “saved” her life and implied if she didn’t have the show, it would be very very bad. Typical addict manipulations.
“I understand lvp getting emotional, but I really didn’t understand why pandora was crying”
I wonder if there is some family secret that will be exposed if Max finds out the identity of his real parents. He looks SO MUCH like LVP’s hubby. IMHO, that would explain Pandora’s emotion. Maybe she is in on the family secret, if there is indeed a family secret.
I thought the same thing, there seems to be some bad blood with the biological parents and Lisa/Ken/Pandy are terrified it will be uncovered. They are either trying to protect Max or themselves…or the whole thing is a case of way overblown egos and possessiveness.
If there is a big family secret that they are terrified of the truth being exposed, why would they film it?
I think unless you have an adopted sibling you just cannot get it. My oldest brother is adopted, my parents went through some very tough teenage years with him. Things did not go his way it was I’m going to find my real parents they would let me do this or they would let me have that. Even now I am 42 and he is 48 I would be really upset if he wanted to find his biological family, we are his family, we are the ones who have been there for all of his ups and downs.
It is hard to explain, but I totally get Pandora’s reaction. Just the thought of him wanting to look for them makes me tear up.
Nice to get an adoptee perspective. Thanks for your perspective Kendra.
I thought it was very touching. Pandy response when LVP asks why she is upset…”he’s ours”. Very sweet
It did feel like one of the most emotionally real moments on a RH’s show––and your post helps makes even more sense of what we saw.
Thanks for your perspective. Even without an adopted sibling, I totally understood Pandora’s emotion. Max is her brother! I would fight tooth & nail for my brother so the thought that they could lose him (or that he would even question their connection) would naturally scare her. I found it touching & sweet. “He’s ours.”
And I’m really glad LVP explained her feelings more clearly in this episode. Last week she tiptoed around her feelings, hiding behind wit & jokes. It was probably really good for Max to watch her say that she wasn’t happy about it but her feelings couldn’t matter in his choices. And that she’s been scared of this his whole life. Hopefully, this episode will heal some of Max’s wounds. Maybe he’ll be able to grow up a little after seeing how much his Mum truly loves him.
I feel no pity for Kim. She is an adult (albeit an addicted one) and she knows what she should and shouldn’t do to gain back her sobriety. SHe is on the show for career opportunities and money so I don’t feel sorry for her. I find her ridiculous and nasty. She and her sister share that trait in common…they are both spoiled brats with the desire to be seen as talanted actresses. It will NEVER happen because they both suck.
This
Wow, you always have something positive to say each week, don’t ya, Merilyn?? You also state every week what a waste of an hour it was to watch the RHOBH. Here’s a suggestion! Don’t watch.
100% with you Merilyn. Kim is 50 yrs ago here, it’s time to stop having the mentality of a ten year old and take accountability for the mess she has created. Not just with her drug/alcoholism but how she has pitted her sister and her so-called best friend against each other. She needs to grow up. And I prefer at this point she needs to leave the show or at least be downgraded from the big bright lights of being a housewife.
Vanessa, as someone who has an adopted older brother it is very emotional, even now in our 40s, I would not want him to look for his “real family” we are his real family. We are the ones who have been here for all of his highs and lows. In his teens and early 20s, he used his being adopted as a weapon, fighting with us, well its not like you are my real sister, fighting with our parents, I’m going to find my real parents, they would not treat me like this, they would not ground me, etc… I’ve never thought of him in any other way as my brother. When our father died 3 years ago, someone actually said, well we hope everyone stays connected and a family, you know with your brother being adopted and all. I was shocked, that someone would say that, like our parents were the only thing making us a family. He is my brother. Like Pandora said he is ours.
So I completely get her tears.
I wish I could give you a thumbs up
Oh my, is that the flicker of the light bulb going off above Yo’s head? Yolanda, remember your tag line? Character isn’t what you have – it’s who you are. Brandi doesn’t have much including character!
I’m glad Brandi threw her friendship back in Yo’s face. She got a taste of being LVP from last season. Lisa tried the same thing, and Yolanda criticized her for it. Yo still thought she was the only one being a true friend to Brandi. Bella’s DUI is a very touchy subject for Yo, and I hope this happened before she lost the ability to read, think, text, or watch TV because Brandi just showed Yo her true colors.
HA! Now Yolanda must feel like an idiot now for not taking Lisa V’s word as gold last season about Brandi’s drinking problem. Brandi is so evil she threw Bella under the bus for being a drunk like her to deflect. But remember – Brandi is being Brandi, huh, Yo!
I’m not a huge Yolanda fan, but one thing I will never criticize her on is her parenting skills! She and Mohammad have raised some genuinely nice children. They have all the reasons in the world to act like elitist over privilege brats and don’t. From what I have read, Gigi and Bella act like normal well adjusted young women. Although we have not seen a lot of Anwar, he seems to be a kind gentleman. Brandi is scum for ever mentioning Bella and alcoholism! I can honestly say that there have been numerous times when I, as a young adult, could of gotten a DUI but never did. Bella screwed up and knows it. Leave her alone.
lol every time i hear that tag line i think, “yes, you ARE a character, yolanda.”
I wonder if Brandi was referring to a fentanyl patch when she said Kim was “only” using the patch. I have had two people in my life o.d on those patches. The only other pain patch I can think of is a morphine patch which Kim does not need either. I’m guessing the patch is one of the two because we certainly know it isn’t a nicotine patch. Kim sucks on that e cigarette like a fiend.
Your comment about Brandi needing some shame is an excellent observation.
YES! You caught that too! Sorry, but no way on earth is a FENTANYL patch appropriate for post op hernia pain. NO. WAY. She’s swiping them from Monty. They give fentanyl for chronic pain or cancer pain, and definitely not to an admitted drug addict.
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I an familar with those patches,,,they will only prescibe them to people that have alredy been on other opiates long term. In addition they often give an opiate antagonist pen just in case. If she is on the patch, I would question the docotr that rescribed them.
There is no way she is rx’d them with her history and for post op hernia pain. No way. She’s getting them from Monty-she didnt take a pill before gambling night, she put on a patch. Have fun detoxing from THOSE, Kim.
not true, sorry
I’ve never heard of a narcan rx with a fentanyl rx. But ok.
Maybe thats why Brandi was acting so wierd and wanted Lisa to talk to Kyle cuz she knows that Kim is stealing Montys patches and Kim confided in her and by Kim telling Brandi she is her best friend is like swearing to secrecy like 14 year old girls
If Kim is on fentanyl patches, we can start writing her obituary. That’s very bad shit, people, avoid by all means possible. Don’t mean to be preachy, sorry if it came off that way. Yes, its a miracle drug for those who need it for a medical condition, but for everyone else its probably the worst thing going. Ya’ll be careful.
They’re great when medically indicated. Recreationally, not so much. I really loved Brandi’s face when she “realized” she slipped that one out. What an asshole. Only one spilling Kim’s secrets is her bestie.
Yes they are very strong. My son is on them and he has recently had his leg amputated in 2 places which involved 3 surgeries not a hernia or a broken rib. He’s dealing with constant severe pain and also phantom limb pain. None of the conditions that she claimed to have would warrant that strong a drug.
wow, Hannah. I hope he is doing allright
ooopsi he’s doing better than I had hoped for. Thanks for asking. In lots of pain but dealing with the tragic loss of his leg and determined to walk again. It’s only been 2 months since my son’s best friend crushed his leg by pining him between his car and a building. It’s been very tough for him physically, mentally, emotionally and financially because no insurance. We’ll make it somehow. We always do.
Sending prayers and good thoughts to you and your son. He sounds like an incredibly brave boy.
Good God, Hannah, I’m so sorry to hear that. What a tragedy… Sending healing thoughts and prayers.
I’m betting this is the info Kim was so worried about Brandi spilling to Kyle when she asked what they discuss.
Well too bad Kim, the secret is out now! And Brandi Will say that she said it on camera to get Kim to face her diction and get her into rehab or some such bullshit.
Hannah I’m so sorry to hear about your son, but so happy for you that he’s doing okay. That’s awful I can’t even imagine – but you prove a great point. But no patches are for serious serious SERIOUS surgeries. My dad just had hernia surgery-Motrin and Percocet/acetamemophin pills.
Wishing you and your son the best Hannah, take care of yourself so you can be there to help him. He’ll walk again; it’s obvious from how strong you sound, that he’s probably inherited the tough-cookie gene.
Hannah, ((hugs!))
I wish your son all the best. And you, too.
It could be a lidocaine patch. But based on Brandi’s facial expression I’m guessing it’s fentanyl. Dollars to doughnuts – Those sisters will be screaming lidocaine at the reunion. You just watch.
Plus, lidocaine is no fun! Bet she says nicotine, since she’s smoking the e-cigs, she’s trying to quit smoking, ya’ll. It’s a fentanyl patch all day every day.
What doctor is supplying Kim with those “patches”? I can see the headlines now, “Doctor investigated for prescribing drugs to a known addict.” That would be after Kim OD’s which is inevitable if she continues using and taking dangerous drugs for fake conditions. Sounds familiar….Anna NIcole…Elvis Presley…etc.
My guess Monty’s doctor as they are most likely his patches that Kim is helping herself to.
No Dr. is prescribing Kim those patches, if that is indeed what she’s on (and I strongly suspect she is) fentanyl patches are typically given to cancer patients for their pain, so betcha she’s getting them from Monty. If you go by what she said was wrong with her in the hospital, there isnt a thing wrong with her that required a fentanyl patch.
I would be willing to bet it is the Duragesic (fentanyl) patch, and she’s taking them from Monty. Which could explain why he took off just before Poker Night. BuTrans (buprenorphine) is another one. Then there is the LidoDerm (lidocaine) patch. Unless Kim goes to one of those docs who is an Rx mill, no one gets a prescription for temporary pain relief from a broken rib and hernia repair.
My dad’s been on the Duragesic patch for years. Chronic back pain. I had to fight to get it for him. His doc was worried about sedation. He went from barely being able to walk hunched over a walker to getting out and about with a cane in a week. Now it helps with his 3rd recurrence of colon cancer. Either patients suffer because doctors are afraid to prescribe narcotics, or you have doctors that give them out like Halloween candy.
I was thinking the same thing. Her ex-husband is dying of cancer, which means he’d likely be prescribed Fentanyl patches. Otherwise, she’d have NO business as an addict using drugs that heavy. I think Fentanyl is a zillion times stronger than morphine or heroin. Scary, scary stuff.
Kyle is just not my cup of tea… I see through her… Her cry was so fake. Brandi is obvious and Kim is obvious but Kyle is a monumental smoke screen…just Fake.
So not true. Kyle would never go into that ugly voice unless she meant it. It’s like the ugly cry. You can’t help it. And I have seen how hurt Kyle is about online trolls. She’s sensitive.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kyle does all of the actions of a cry but No tears…. She’s a big phony….
I think Kyle’s dramatics and tears are because she knows Kim has bared her soul to the untrustworthy Brandi and Kyle is terrified of Brandi shouting it out the world. You can be guaranteed that there are some very unflattering things about Kyle being shared by Kim to Kyle.
I agree TT. People don’t want to see that Kyle has a heart, even for just one season when it’s about life or death on saving her sister’s life. We already have said though Kyle does need personal help on her own even if Kim wants to stay down the path of pill popping. Kyle has to get her emotional health in order. She has kids, husband, and a business to attend too as well. She has to be there for them as well.
Kyle is just a sensitive person so her emotions arent too far below the surface. I think she is terrified when it comes to Kim.
Kyle is the baby of the family and grew up with an alcoholic mother and addict sister. It’s typical of children growing up around addicts to be people-pleasers and control-freaks (as in thinking if they can make everything “perfect” no one starts drinking/using/fighting).
I don’t like her much for a lot of reasons, but I can’t fault her for behaving exactly as she was, basically, raised to behave in these situations, other than saying she needs to recognize it & change it. But it’s not “fake” IMO.
True,angenic.
Is that true, that Kyle’s/Kim’s mother was an alcoholic? If so, that makes so much sense about why she worked so hard to keep Kim’s addiction a big secret. Not the response of a healthy person.
I also think Kyle feels a tremendous amount of guilt for bringing (and keeping) Kim on the show in the first place and now having her addiction issues played out on reality TV. This must be really embarrassing for Kim’s children to have to watch their mother go through this in front of millions of people.
Having read extensively about Kim and Kyle’s background and their horrid mother…..I agree with the above post. These women were doomed from birth.
I agree angiene. It’s no wonder why Kyle is sucha basket case of emotions because thanks to their mom she put all that weight square on Kyle’s shoulders when it comes to Kim. How come sis Kathy never could have some of this weight? I think Kyle doesn’t want to let Kim fall even for the littlest of bit because she still will feel like she’s letting their mom down. It’s so sad and depressing when one thinks about it.
fuck off, I do not any more tears to pour. I could pop a vein….
you are insensitive. she cried enough, she doesn’t have any more tears.
Well then don’t pretend cry then…. Point is what she is exhibiting outside doesn’t match inside… Kyle is a phony..
Is there some secrets in Kim’s past that Kyle is worried about Brandi knowing? Or, is Kyle just worried that when or if Brandi betrays Kim that it will push her over the edge because she thought of Brandi as a confidant?
I tend to think that Kyle may be more worried about Kyle. Maybe she doesn’t want Kim revealing her secrets to Brandi.. Why do we have to spend yet another season on Kim’s addiction?! These new women act as if they’ve never known or seen any of this!uhg! We’ve been through all this before Ladies. Get another storyline!! Jesus!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kim knows something of Mauricio’s behavior, perhaps he have made some bad choices in the past, but the two of them worked it out, and Kim would definitely blab that without thinking. I’m sure Brandy is grilling Kim for information about the family, including the Hiltons. We all know that if Brandy knows it, she’ll blurt it out at some point.
Ooooh – that’s a good point! I hadn’t thought of the family stuff Kim may be spewing.
On another note – Kim and Kyle’s crying voices are like nails on a chalkboard to me. I have to hit mute while they are gravel-shrieking.
Did you happen to watch the extended scene of Brandi and Kim after the mixer party aftermath on bravotv? Like usual Brandi is being manipulative and planting seeds in Kim’s head again. She then had the nerve to ask about Kathy Hilton! Like holy shit this woman is fishing for information and Kim has placed all her trust in Brandi.
Both.
In the extended clip at Brandi’s house after the gay mixer, Brandi says something to the effect that Kyle doesn’t love you, she is trying to hurt you, and the real zinger, Kathy wouldn’t treat you this way. Oh, look out. Don’t you ever bring Kathy into the equation. Brandi is going to pay for that.
I watched that clip after reading your comment. I swear Brandi is a cult leader brain washing her minion.
A funny thought popped into my head, Brandi becomes the next Danielle Staub and whips out “House of Hilton” on the dinner table and expose all including those late night phone calls.
But no too good to be true. Brandi though I think when she will get back into a corner at the reunion when it’s her and Kyle arguing she will then deflect off her and bring out some shady and dirty secrets what Kim told her. And that’s when Kyle/Kim are gonna go at. That’s my early prediction and I think I’m sticking to it. Because Brandi doesn’t believe she’s doing anything wrong and won’t take accountability for her own behavior.
Oh my that is a hilarious thought that could actually happen! If she did that at the reunion, it would blow the roof off of the all time housewives reunion ratings!
After reading the comments last week about kim trying to make Kyle look bad and playing brandi against Kyle I can’t help but see it in this episode! Kim is definitely off the wagon and back to using and it’s so sad to watch. She really should excuse herself from the show. I feel so bad for her children and lyles children having to see this play out on tv. It’s unfortunate that one of the few things that’s real on this show is kim and Brandi’s rampant addiction and Kim’s hate for Kyle. I know most don’t like Kyle but I really do, she seems like she just wants to be liked by everyone and I can’t fault her for that.
Kim, Kyle and Kathy’s mother was a terrible person who pushed her daughters to either marry very rich or get acting jobs to support their nearly broke family. Kim excelled and got the big jobs so she was the “goat” who supported all of them until Kathy married a Hilton. The sisters have resented each other for ages and it all goes back to their mother. This is a doomed relationship and Kim is never going to forgive her sister for having to work through her childhood to support Kyle’s lifestyle as well as her own mother. They have a lot of history which has been well documented so Brandi can read all about it in reputable books by respected authors. Just look up books about this family and you will find all the info that you need.
It really is tragic how f’ed up their childhood was. I could not agree more. Those sisters just need to stay away from one another and get massive therapy. Their childhoods were not OK, their mother was a monster and they need to realize that before they’ll ever be healthy and happy.
Yes but at the same time I thjbk those sisters were and are codependent with their mother and each other-especially Kim and Kyle, maybe bc they share the same father.
MZU – are there others books besides House of Hilton? I would love to know more about Kim and Kyle’s up being.
Being? I apologize for my spelling, BRINGING!
And Kyle will never “forgive” Kim for being the star of the family. I can just imagine what their mother would’ve said to Kyle as a child: “why can’t you…”. End it with anything that sounds like: “…more like Kim.”
Remember too, Kim was Disney’s hot commodity for many years.
I’m pretty sure Kyle is fine with her hot husband and beautiful family and home and doesn’t envy Kim’s addictions and being alone at all…. but hey you never know.. maybe she didn’t notice all of that..
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I like Kyle too. I think shes the level headed one , who has built a good family life and is a decent person with a moral code. When shes been not so great, she is willing to own it and evolve and she is capable of forgiveness. Those are qualities that go a long way with me.
Oh and Eileen’s hair and dress looks sooo 80s soap star/dynasty! I wonder if it’s supposed to be a play on her being a soap actress…if she stays next season I hope they let her redo her opening
Brandi made the statement that if she mentions that Kim is high she thinks Kim will die. Does she mean that literally or figuratively? With this being a relapse and Kim having access to Monty’s “cancer drugs”, could Brandi be referring to more than Kim just being terribly upset at being outted by Brandi? What has been said by Kim to Brandi during all these late night phone calls she has supposedly made?
I think its so dangerous to continually ignore Kim’s obvious relapse. Of course it has to be handled with some care, but it has to be confronted . I cant fault Brandi for admitting she knows Kim isnt sober. Lisa R. is right, this cowardly attitude is enabling a very sick woman to her destruction. Thats not helping her , its life or death time. Im surprised Kyle would waste precious time arguing with Kim about Brandi or her own hurt feelings, while the obvious pressing problem goes unspoken. Prescription drugs kill more than street drugs do, especially when mixed with alcohol. Not saying or doing anything, Is throwing Kim under the bus in my opinion.
RESPONSIBILITY is the word here. Kim needs to take responsibility for herself. It is up to HER to get sober and no one else can accomplish that. She is being let off the hook. She is aware of her problems and has been through rehab on more than one occasion. I blame her for not getting the help that she KNOWS that she needs. Kim is a coward. Kyle is NOT responsible for Kim’s addiction and I am betting that she and her family have tried to intervene on MANY occasions. What is an addict doing taking care of a terminal cancer patient? Ridiculous.
MZU, couldn’t agree more. I have a suspicion that the *one* time Brandi called Kyle (because Brandi twists and exaggerates everything) about Kim’s late night pleas for help, Kyle probably said something to the effect of only Kim can save Kim from her addiction. This is truth, and anyone who’s been through the cycle with an addict more than a couple times knows that there is NOTHING that you can do to help the situation, and in fact indulging them in what they want as Brandi is doing will only make things worse.
“Is that a new opening ? Has Eileen’s always been in an blue evening gown with her hair up? What are they trying to do to her? Are all of those evening gown things new?”
-No.
-Yes.
-I have no clue. They always glam Kim up for the intro, and she always looks ridiculous.
-Nope.
In short, Brandi needs her teeth knocked out, and Kim is relapsing.
Thanks Javan. I have literally missed that part in prep until tonight.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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How about when Eileen was trying to talk to Kim about Brandi and her possibly being misguided, then in the talking heads Kim basically tells her to have a seat because “You don’t talk about people I love.” For me that is when the damn record player scratched. How are you going to say that shit about Eileen meanwhile Brandi has been DOGGING your sister saying she ain’t shit, her husband doesn’t want her, meanwhile you play hard of hearing..
I caught that too , and it creeped me out , to have that allegiance to Brandi because you love her, but not to your sister who you say you love as well. Kim is loving the one , who is allowing her a supply of drugs and alchohol ,and thats Brandi. It was the same dynamic as with the thugish boyfriend she took to Hawaii, a you and me against the world menality. Two fucked up , dysfunctional people telling eachother , that its everyone else thats the problem ,
I found it so repugnant for Kim to say in her confessionals that Eileen needs to butt out of she and Kyle’s relationship, but here she is, that has inserted Brandi into her sister drama! Like excuse me, you drop our interloper first Kim and Kyle can then drop Eileen/Lisa R away from you twos drama. Until Kim should be appreciative Eileen and Lisa R are coming from a good place. Where Brandi is only trying to get the goods and drop you once it’s fit for her liking!
Lisa R. is right about everything she says about Kim. It boils down to Kim is an addict and she has everyone running scared and walking on eggshells to not talk about it. In past seasons, when anyone questioned Kim’s behavior (bathroom all night, sleeping all day, missing planes, not showing up, incoherent) they were viciously attacked (by Kim and Kyle both) for daring to mention it.
Kyle thinking that if Brandi wasn’t involved she & Kim would be OK was laughable and sad. No, Kim would still be an addict and it would be someone else (or some dog) “causing problems” between them. That entire conversation between them with the “this is how I FEEL!” was like they were transported back to grade school fighting over who loves whom more/who is the better sister/blah, blah, blah. Let.It.Go. At least Kyle seemed like she was starting to see the light when she said in her talking head that “how many times are we going to have to go through this?” I hope it sticks, for both their sake’s.
Brandi running through her list of all the crap she does that she allegedly couldn’t accomplish if she was an alcoholic is typical addict rationalization — getting kids dressed and offed to school? meetings and a podcast? Bitch, please. There are functioning alcoholics who hold down jobs where they work 50, 60 hours a week.
Watching Brandi turning shit around to act and like Yolanda was attacking her when she was offering to help her, made me want to knock my head against the wall — a conversation with Brandi is like talking to a moron.
I understand where Pandy & Lisa are coming from re: Max. My aunt & uncle adopted (because they couldn’t have kids) and I know if their children wanted to know who their birth parents were they couldn’t help but think, in some way, that it was a rejection of them as parents and/or they somehow made them feel like they didn’t “belong” in the family. Extrapolating that, Pandy may fear Max doesn’t think of himself as really Pandy’s brother. Those kinds of feelings of guilt/fear wouldn’t be justified objectively, but it would still exist due human nature of defaulting to feelings of inadequacy.
Kyle’s whole attitude about the Burbank film festival is quintessentially why I can never like her — if she had a crappy sci-fi no-budget short showing there she would be *livid* if any of the others mocked the film festival like she did.
Damn — that was way longer than I intended it to be. Sorry.
yep. I am tired too.
Angie, once again… I wish we were in the same room watching these episodes. LOL We would have so much fun. I am loving Lisa R’s comments on Kim’s addiction. I resent every stupid minute I have had to watch Kim mumble through a scene, and stare blankly at the camera.
Right back at ya, cavex2!
I guess they can get as vicious and pissed off as they want to , but while theyre fighting that battle , Kim could go to sleep and never wake up again. I dont blame Kyle though , .from suffering burn out, but Lisa R. is doing and saying what needs to be said to save a persons life. Its not a time for politeness or apathy unless you just want to wait for the phone call.
you are damn right, no dancing around the bushes
Lisa R is a complete stranger to Kim. She is saying the things that Kathy & Kyle and the rest of Kim’s family and friends should have said a long, long time ago, IMO. And yes it is easy to get burned out dealing with an addict — I know from personal experience – but the solution isn’t to film a reality show with her. Kyle needs to take the heat & tell Kim the things Lisa R says (even if that means being called a “bad sister” by Kim), stop filming with Kim to try to get her in a real rehab that makes her take personal responsibility for what she does (instead of blaming the thug boyfriend, Monty’s illness etc) and — most of all– Kyle needs to stop giving a fuck about what anyone else thinks of her for doing what needs to be done. It could be the last chance Kyle has to try to get Kim to admit she needs and actually get the help she needs.
The cunning that addicts think they possess becomes less so as the relapse after relapse becomes all too familiar and the same b.s. wit a different spin comes into play. Kim is losing her touch. I think she went to rehab the last time because Bravo wanted her to and or paid for it. But she didn’t stay the whole time and follow through with the process. Kim would need a long term sober living environment to even have a chance of making it. She must not even have a sponsor, because the sponsor would have fought her tooth and nail to let Monty move into the house with his treasure trove, and the whole group would have jumped down her throat. Kim thinks she is absolved from all “crimes” committed that she can’t remember which is 50% of her life. No doubt her kids have some serious issues, but she is the teary Mom waving in the driveway waving her hanky as they happily go off to college or grown up lives. Meanwhile, what is she doing to help Chad who was baker-acted in 2014 and is still living at home at 16 yrs. of age. Focus on him, Kim. Just once, put somebody’s needs ahead of your own. I see right through you.
That is exactly how it plays out Janet – you said it perfectly. Addiction doesn’t respect politeness––it’s just too easy to use that to your addictive benefit.
Kim don’t want Eileen’s nor Lisa R’s helping hand not even if it means they will be a good influence to both she and Kyle. Kim wants to stay high! She doesn’t want no one’s help. She killed me when she said “I don’t want cry” in her confessionals. Like that’s gonna make me feel sorry for her like we’re in season 1 again. Please.
What a great comment. I totally agree.
PLEASE tell me that I am not the only one that caught Brandi’s accidental- on-purpose side-eyed comment about Kim’s patch. Saying that all Kim is on is her patch then made an oopsie face. I’m fairly certain that she isnt referring to a nicotine patch. If she is referring to fentanyl (in in the context of the conversation, that’s how I took it) that explains SO MUCH. And as an addict, if she is using fentanyl patches (which as a cancer patient Monty would absolutely have) OH BOY.
I have a couple of pounds of fentanyl patches left from my treatment in 2008. They can fuck you up. I am small, below 100 lb. At some point my butcher(doctor-not necessarily hate)gave me over 200mg. Lala land it was.
I dropped that shit in two weeks and got yelled. I thought I was having a heart attack .I guess I was lucky to survive. I kind of confused dropping this shit with other hotflashes and stuff. Just a short story….
it took me a bit longer than 2 weeks; I do have a pound of morfine and other alaland things all locked up in the safe. I have no idea how to dispose…
ooopsi-bring them back to the pharmacy, they’ll properly dispose of them for you.
Yeah, Oopsie, those patches can fuck you UP. My husband was on them for years-he didnt abuse them, and took them as directed, but I dont care how many pills you take, you pop a patch on and arent used to them? Forget it. And no one can convince me that she is being prescribed them. It explains SO MUCH of her behavior now.
Hi Allison, I see you know what I am talking about. I hope your husband is ok.. I am clear and not taking any of the fucking patches, only sometimes – pain driven – tapping into morphine or oxi.. Otherwise I love my herbs (Heineken) and would not replace it for anything.
Hi ooopsi-thank you for asking, yes he’s ok now, he was on them for years for a chronic back condition but he’s off them now, and they were a bitch to come off of. That’s why I caught that when Brandi said it, and know that Kim is full of shit. Hey, maybe Brandi has taken a liking to the patches and they have patch parties?
Allison, because they are “returned unaccountable” to the pharmacy, they would likely be used by a employee or sold on the street. Yes, “they will properly dispose of them for you”.
Pharmacies here are super strict about that-the DEA counts EVERYTHING. I’m sure everywhere has loopholes but that’s what you’re supposed to do. Sometimes local PD’s will have things where you can return old and unused rx’s too.
Please be careful with who you tell in your life that you have these drugs in your home. Not to be an alarmist but junkies wouldn’t hesitate to break in to get their hands on that stuff.
I’m actually kind of sick of the “secrets” Kim and Kyle keep referring to. Hello-we all know. Kim is getting high. Secret blown.
There is no fucking secrets. Everything is out in the open. Hunting season. Brandi #getoffmyTV
Not a one. I’m not quite sure who they think they’re kidding.
Personally, I wonder if there may be other secrets like abuse or something. A lot of addicts have hidden secrets in their past. Of course I could just be a conspiracy theorists!
Considering the number of former child stars who have talked about being sexually abused, it would not surprise me in the slightest if she had experienced something like that.
I think so. I don’t think people from normal, functional families end up like Kim is. I don’t think it just happens for no reason.
Youre right. Most substance abuse people have a painful past, or a defining moment , that impacted them to the point , that they took the path of numbing the pain. It tends to be sexual, emotional, physical abuse or neglect.
I hope youre wrong. Not that I don’t like your post, Angel. I really just hope it isn’t that. But every time Kim isn’t committed to staying sober leads me to believe it has to been something dark that happened in Kim’s past probably way darker than “the goddamn house”. Even in Kyle’s blog for this week she said there were things that happened pre-housewives that she doesn’t want to discuss to keep between she and her sister.
Kim obviously had an unconventional upbringing. She lacks normal social skills. I’m not sure about sexual abuse, but running around Hollywood in the late 70’s – early 80’s makes me think it’s possible. I would put money on the fact that Kim has found herself in a physical abusive relationship. Probably when she was full out drinking. I just suspect that there is something in her past, that at 50, she still has never dealt with.
Well, all hell is going to break loose when Brandi blabs at the reunion about Kim’s son’s issue over a year ago or some other family secret. I know Kim is running her mouth and it has to be scaring Kyle. If Brandi does keep her mouth shut during the reunion, I will know Kathy Hilton threatened Brandi. Also… will be interesting to see if Kim even shows up to the Reunion this year.
She better show up, if not, I hope Andy finds his inner Donald Trump and says shes fired.
Wow! Brandi sounded sooo mature when she said that when people tell her not to do things, she just does those things more. That is beyond childish. I hope she watches these episodes and sees what an idiot she is. I also loved how she said she was not wrong regarding the Kyle fight. Does she really think she has any fans left?
Yes she does. Very abusive and abrasive fans. You don’t want to meet them. They are attacking everybody that is not Brandi #getoffmyTV boat.
I was thinking the same thing. When she tells her sons not to do things, they have a perfect ‘excuse’ and come back. Just look at the tape of this show. I didn’t think it possible, but each week I feel even more sorry for those sons of hers. They are little boys that have been thru enough with both parents…………NOT ‘little men’. Let them be little and enjoy being a kid!
Brandi can never take a good, hard look at herself. She is incapable. Just like Kim. But Kim is a better friend. I doubt she would blurt out that Brandi snorts coke or whatever ( just an example) on national t.v. Wonder how Kim feels about her now. It took ten seconds for Brandi, the world’s BEST BFF to throw Kim under the bus.
I don’t know why Kim would ever think Brandi is a friend, after Brandi yelled at Kim about her shit stained pillow. I would never forgive that smug, nasty bitch. NEVER!
I thought Yolanda handled Brandi really well, and gave her alot of sound advice , that fell on deaf ears, unfortunately. Even with the flippant comment about Bella, Yolanda stayed on track and was very forthright and dignified inv her approach. I liked when she said “yes you can say and do what you want but is that the energy you want to put out in the world for your children?” Brandi missed the boat, in protesting she does everythng for her kids. Its not just about money and things, its also about setting an example , and yes it is about the energy you put out there ,that comes back to you ,and to those you love. People are all energy, and it matters very much what kind of energy you have.
I resist the urge to go off on my in laws every time i see them. I take the high road to teach my children the correct way to deal with a holes. Brandi can say her boys are her world, but she is embarrassing them and setting a horrible example for them to live by and learn from.
I also loved how Brandi said in one talking head, “If people don’t talk about you you aren’t relevant” and basically said keep talking about me. Then in a later talking head said, “find a new subject!” Like stop talking about me! Ok Brandi… I also like how Heather M pretended to be a nice person on Brandi’s podcast. Lol.
Eileen is a great looking gal, has a cool husband, wealth and an Emmy.
But when an old friend needs her support for a low budget sci fi film…..she is there. At the prestigious, world famous, renowned Burbank film festival.
Held at a mall.
Now that is a GREAT gal and friend.
And it was fun to see the other ladies tag along and eat hot dogs and popcorn.
Such a releif from the very sad story lines.
I really like Eileen. I think shes got it all, and is a wise and sensitive person with depth to her. It makes you feel happy for her and for what she has in life. I really admire the way she handles herself, even with wine thrown in her face, shes not catty , overly vain or malicious, very above board and honest.
Ive always loved Eileen thanks to Days and then YR when I first watched her in the 90s. Now seeing her the housewives she provides that level headedness in a group of argumentative women. And did I mention she’s beautiful for age 55.
Is it possible Andy will get rid of Brandi? Can I use my, Im terminal( no lie) and he Give me a wIsh?) Sorry I make light of serious things to find the sick humor in life. It makes me feel better in a sick way . but if know when Im for sure going I can be a hero an take her with me! (justing kidding) but I am liking Leanne rimes more these days! Does Kim forget the pillow with the stains comment from Brandi? that I’LL NEVER foget…..ewwww,escape to witch mountain, immediately! lol
Vanderpump needs to avoid that intervention at all costs!
How do you expect an intervention – both are in denial.
Brandis #getoffmyTv idiocy is beyond me. She is fucking with Kims live – she has no idea about the cocktails Kim is inhaling – you need professional there.
Lisa R is about to “go down the rabbit hole” with Kim and this intervention! Everyone, especially Brandi, knows it’s not going to go well. That’s why Brandi is suggesting it.
It would be worth a try, for sure. I think interventions are allways tricky. My niece, (her oldest daughter) was the one who staged the intervention for her mother and I really admire her for it Even though , her mom died about a year later,, they had quality time with her sober and she died with some dignity intact, and there was less guilt than there would have been , if there had been no attempt .made . Im watching Kim turn from a vibrant attravtive woman with self respect, into a shell of herself and its so sad.
I’m gonna try to skip the intervention epi, if there is one. I just think Kim’s true loved ones – Kim’s kids, Kyle, Kathy, Monty, maybe even that dumb hooker Brandy – should do this away from cameras. Then, they need to make sure Kim doesn’t do another season of this show.
See I agree. The only people that should be present at that intervention is the primary players at poker night: Kim, Kyle, Brandi, Lisa R, and Eileen. No one else. Lisa V and Yolanda wasn’t there other than being brought up to speed on what happened.
Brandi is an a**hole for sure but Kyle gets on my nerves when she gets all in a frenzy and latches on like a Pitbull. She pushed Brandi a few times and Brandi pushed back. I would have too and she didn’t hurt her. Kyle’s retelling of the story is bs. Shes blowing it out of proportion . I see Kyle get all excited when Kim has clearly fallen off the wagon. Her ex who has cancer is living with her! Probably not a great idea. So she’s taken some of his pain meds. But Lisa insisting they have a intervention and proclaiming that Kim is an addict is stupid. We all know this , what she’s saying is old news. They’re all over reacting. I feel like Kyle gets excited when Kim puts herself and has fallen off the wagon on camera bc she gets the drama she needs to stay on the show but it’s not her own personal drama that gets aired. Kim has obviously asked Kyle not to say anything on camera like she did in last season and yet, Kyle persists. Brandi did say horrible things to Kyle but she was provoked my Kyle. She was. And I think Kyle goes in too hard on Kim. She’s makes it about her. Just my opinion. I’m with Kim.. Eileen , stay out of it. These women have to get caught up. Haven’t they watched past seasons? Duh.
You are an idiot. I am with Kyle. Kyle’s behavior is called a frenzy, which I think is a step or too above panic. Something I am going through as we speak. stfup
Excuse me, who’s an idiot? Surely you weren’t referring to me?
Hello Lisa.. Kim has already been to rehab .. I think she knows how this works and who to call if she needs treatment again. I don’t blame Kim for being upset with her. Why is she making this personal issue of Kim’s her business? Back off Lisa, you don’t want to go down this road. We’ve all watched this before. Ha!
You do need somebody to call for what it is. Kim is right there in everybody’s face with “neurotic” behavior. You do not expect them to be quiet about the obvious? do ya?
“So she’s taken some of his pain meds.” That’s normal behavior to you?
Maybe they are all insincerely (except kyle) trying tho “Help” Kim so that when she dies or gets debilitated they can say remember when I tried?
You are seriously f’ed up
TP…. Agreed…. Kyle is a big fraud…. And does not want to see Kim do Too well at least not well enough to surpass her….
Kyle surpassed her long ago. You are delusional. Kim has nothing Kyle wants.
Crywolf…..you are correct and you made my point.
I thought I really liked Lisa R but I’m not liking the way she’s spending so much time talking about Kim’s addiction. Someone catch her up to speed with this and make her shut up please.
Why should she shut up? Kim is affecting the entire group-and I’m glad someone is finally forcing the issue instead of tip toeing around it like past seasons.
Will you still tell Lisa Rina to shut up if Kim dies of an overdose? Lisa has seen two of Harry’s brothers die of alcoholism. Courageous for speaking out. Kyle is used to the family dynamics of protecting Kim’s addiction and doesnt know what to do because she is scared of alienating Kim.
My brothers wife died in her sleep after abusing pain meds for many years. She had gotten sober, but the damage to her body still took her down. This is life or death crunch time ,so I totally understand Lisa R. When you see what these drugs do to a person and the pain their kids go through when their parent dies from it, you know its not about ego or idle gossip. I applaud Lisa R.
TP…. Agreed as well… Lisa R needs to mind her own business… She did not seem genuine…. Lisa R is just playing the reality TV game so that she can keep some checks coming it….
Oh, I like that she’s the only one out there saying the truth. If you’re going to ride this train on a damn reality tv show, there’s no sense pretending it’s not happening or ignoring it. I think Brandi asking Lisa to speak with Kyle was actually a good move. Just wish a woman’s sobriety was not used as a plot line on a reality tv show. Makes me feel dirty for watching it, and I’m not sure how many more episodes I’ll be watching. I hate to support this shit fest with my viewing.
Why should Lisa R shut up when she was present first hand when Kim was acting like a high junkie on the way to the poker party?? Lisa R is right this show has coddled Kim’s addiction for too long and they need to quit it! Finally someone is being straight forward and not afraid to let Kim no she’s a hot mess and needs professional help!
I wonder if Eddie and Leann watch Brandi on RHOBH. I wonder what they think about her behavior? This was an excellent recap TT.
If my husband’s ex was a booze swilling train wreck I would love to watch her each week. Great material for when you go to court.
Not saying Eddie is dad of the year but if I’m him DVRing RHOBH from episode 10 til the lost episodes this season.
I think Kyle is a nice girl. I don’t understand why people write here that she is a phoney. She is trying to protect her sister from both public humiliation & also worried about her life. Why isn’t Bravo doing something about it? Kim looks like a bag of crap. Its sad .. its not entertaining.. she is obviously off her head. We don’t want to watch her slowly kill herself for our weekly entertainment.
The trouble & upset that Brandi caused Lisa V last year was disgraceful. I adore Lisa V & Kyle should definitely apologise & acknowledge that she was in wrong to jump on that bandwagon last year.
Kyle needs to get her sister away from Brandi who seems to thrive on the drama. I don’t for a minute believe Brandi is a genuine friend for Kim. Kim needs her sister. Nobody needs Brandi.
Sadly i haven’t been able to watch the show yet but going on Tamara’s recap hoping that Yolanda has seen the light and will be booting Brandi’s skanky butt out of her life some time soon. Yolanda is a classy lady so don’t understand what she gets with an embarrassing “friend” like Brandi.
Nobody has mentioned Brandi’s crappy hair extensions. Did they make an appearance?
of course! What would an episode of ROBH be without her ratty 2 dollar extensions? 😉
and that “bump it” thing she had in her head I think the episode prior. hideous
Her hair at lunch with Lisa R was so greasy and tangled like she woke from a rough night spent in the back of random cars.
To heck with Kim. I want an intervention on Brandi’s hair!
And an intervention on her fillers and botox. Her cheeks, though.
To me Brandi always looks as if she just finished pulling a train in the men’s room at the park. I think maybe she needs a big shot of penicillin and a shower.
I think Kyle’s concern is genuine, but there is still an element of “playing it up for the camera”. I do not understand why this is being filmed for the entire world to see. Ms. Hilton should get both of her sisters together, off camera and have them resolve their family issues. This is not something that should be an integral part of the show.
maybe its a contractual thing?
You are talking about Kathy Hilton here. First place winner a few years back of worst mother in the world, right in front of Kris Kardashian and Tan Mom. She probably alleviates her guilt by throwing money at Kim and Kim’s children. She doesn’t want to get involved in this. She thinks she is on a whole other plane of existence, like royalty. She was invited to meet the Queen of England so she could see her new china pattern, you know.
@Gessi so true. At first I thought Kathy would be like that big sister and second mom to Kim/Kyle in all this but hell no. She probably has fell for Kim’s con job of manipulation as well. I’m willing to bet damn good money she and Kyle don’t have a great relationship neither (Kyle even hinted at this too that Kim/Kathy tend to be closer). Plus Kyle isn’t going to be the human ATM anymore and Kathy has to fianically support Kim as well because Kim probably guilt tripped her too “My child star money took care of you too Kathy. You owe me.”
Ha! Mrs. Hilton has her own problems with her brood to deal with. I don’t think Kathy cares to get involved too deeply. This is not a situation you can throw money at and make go away!
My favorite part of the episode was when Brandi turned on Yolanda, saying that people were calling her daughter an alcoholic. Yolanda should have knocked Brandi’s teeth in but barring that, I thought she handled it really well. She actually called Brandi on it. “I’m trying to help you & you turn on me?” (paraphrased). She stayed calm but pointed out that Brandi’s go-to reaction is to low-blow hurt anyone she feels is threatening her, even when they’re not. Not that it will make a difference. Brandi is a lost cause. But it somewhat redeemed Yolanda.
I loved the way Yolanda handled that.
I have not been a fan of Yolanda up until now. I like that she spoke openly with Brandi and didn’t fall for Brandi’s manipulation. Brandi’s rumors have a way of spreading and Yolanda stopped this one dead in it’s tracks.
I’m not really a Yolanda fan, but she did show class and intelligence in that scene. It really made her seem like a good mom/role model to me. Brandi should really take her advice.
LBND, Brandi, take advice. Ha!
I can understand Pandora’s and Lisa’s tears. There is the conflict of wanting to help Max find out who he is, but not wanting to lose him.
Bravo should send Kim to rehab after they finish exploiting her. Share some of the money they are making off of Kim’s drug habit. Kim has the typical addict behavior of jealousy towards a Kyle that addicts can get towards a person who is not on drugs. There is always one person in an addicts life that they are mad at for not being on drugs and Kyle is Kim’s person. I like Kyle, but understand why she will never be a fan favorite as long as she continue s to participate in Kim’s addiction being played out on camera, people are going to continue to not like Kyle and see her as fake. The broken cannot help the broken. Kyle needs help herself, the blind leading the blind. Totally agree with Lisa R.’s assessment about the phoniness of Kyle not want ting to talk about the addiction. Kyle may not be the addict, but Kim is smarter then Kyle even when she is high. She has been manipulating Kyle for years and kyle still does not get it. Thank God for Mauricio, it would have been worse.
I thought that scene with Lisa & Pandora was actually very genuine. It seems like the most real Lisa V has ever been on camera.
I agree. I think it is brave of LVP and the family to openly address the adoption and what it means to the whole family…not to mention a refreshing break from the Kim and Brandi show.
Brandi! You ARE a “functioning” alcoholic! With a Jekle/Hyde personality when you drink! So there is “shame” in YOUR “game”!
Kim and her family are trying to cover up her addictions because she’s trying to get work as an actress. She got a small role on the TV show Revenge. If she or anyone admit to her being an addict she will never get work again. Just ask Lindsay Lohan. She needs the money from RHOBH and now it’s showcasing her issues and hurting her chances but it’s a steady gig that pays the bills.
Pandy was crying because she knew that would please her mom and she would continue to reap loads of perks and financial benefits from her. There is no threat to her as a sibling. A mother she is not and it showed me that she was just appeasing mom per usual. The favorite biological daughter. She should have been more supportive of her brother. It must be difficult for him or any adopted child to come to terms with this as an adult child. Where’s all the empathy for him? I understand lisa quitetly feeling pain but she shouldn’t malign Pandy with that pain. Maybe a private professional therapist would be a better place for Lisa to voice her concerns not the son’s sibling.
I agree that Max isnt getting the empathy he deserves as an adopted child. Pandora does seem the favored biological child ,who is still jealous of the interloper, Max. I think Pandoras tears were more for herself, for not being the center of her moms attention for a second. I could be wrong about this, but their family feels very cold to me in relation to Max.
Being an outsider looking in (through my Tele), Kyle is not going to be able to force Kim to do anything. The one person in this family who has the most leverage with Kim is her daughter Brooke! She should tell her mother that she is looking her father and she does not want to loose her mother!
Kim needs to save Kim. Her daughter has had to live with this disfunction long enough.
Of course Kim has to heal Kim but Brooke maybe the only one to break through her denial. Kyle didn’t pick her sister and Brooke didn’t pick her mother, they both deserve to live their life’s free of this chaos, but what do you do when you love someone?
You let them hit bottom. All their efforts and all their words mean nothing to an addict. Kim needs to find it in herself. No one can say or do anything that will make it click. Sad but its the truth. Addicts watch other addicts die and they keep using. There are no right words to say to convince someone to fix themselves.
Obviously not, how old is Kim’s daughter? Kim has to do it for Kim.
I get the logic. So no one should do anything. People need to quit criticizing the ladies for sitting by and doing nothing then.
oghousewife, I can see some validity to Angel(?)’s comment. My father was a functional alcoholic. I was his only child who came late in life and the Apple of his eye. My father was still drinking when my first son was born. I came home for a visit and he got drunk and became belligerent. I looked at him and said that I had lived with him being a drunk my entire life but my son didn’t have to do that. I also told him that I would not be coming back until he decided that his life was more important than the alcohol. I packed up and went home. I talked to my mother a week later and she said my father had not had another drink. He never had another drink from that day til the day he died. Sometimes 1 person can make a difference.
I agree with you. Brook should tell her mother that she is done dealing with Kim’s problems and leave it to Kim to fix. I just don’t think Brook should try to convince her mother to get help. What you did took a lot of strength.
Oh and btw, I had never spoken to my father like that before. My family had always chosen to try to hide the family drunk. It was never hidden. I remember being 5 years old making my drunk father drive me around looking for my mother who had to run out of the house when my father was drunk and would beat her.
Angel, I agree with you. Brooke and her sister do have the most leverage, and they have nothing to lose by trying. Maybe they are the only ones that can get through to her.
I like Lisa R’s approach when it comes to Kim. She calls it out. Yolanda also called out Brandi on her bs. If you are acting out of line those around you should be able to state that it is weird, uncomfortable and a hole behavior.
Kyle is in a constant state of panic. I would be too. Kim is embarrassing her own children and I as their aunt would like to shield them from further ridicule. Bad idea for Kim yo be on the show. Kyle probably regrets her hand in that.
Kim is a selfish addict. Brandi loves being caught in the middle of the drama. She feels she will look like Kim’s savior. Hope no one falls for Brandi’s fake concern for Kim.
Kim can not help Kim until she hits bottom. Kyle NEEDS to go to Bravo and tell them that if they do not release/terminate/fire Kim from her contract on BH Housewives, that she will be forced to leave herself. That just might be the thing that will help Kim. Staying on the show like this is certain death.
Praise baby Jesus for Lisa Rhinna finally saying what *ALL* reasonable people have likely been thinking: It appears that perhaps, perhaps, ALLEGEDLY Kim Richards MIGHT, maybe, POSSIBLY not be “on the wagon” any more.
Sweet mother of God. It was such a relief to hear Lisa comment on the reality that everyone seems to actually be trying legitimately to ignore.
DISCLAIMER: Maybe Kim Richards has a decent, non-wagon-falling reason for seeming so extremely loopy and out-of-it, but… if she does, it is a huge coincidence.
God bless America and Lisa Rhinna. The truth shall set me free (or at least reduce the number of times I gasp as I stare at the t.v. screen and mutter “denial honestly ISN’T just a river in Egypt).
i dont see Kyle being fake. she outed her sister once on tv and kim, her daughters and the rest of the family probably let her have it for doing it. so they probably have family guidelines as to how much they can say on tv about family problems. they were raised to keep all the family addictions secret from their mothers alcohol abuse to kims drug and alcohol addictions.
But that doesnt extend to what kim is telling brandi about her family issues. Her life compared to her sisters who are still married to wealthy men and seemed to have loving relationships with their husbands probably makes her depressed and jealous. After all, she was the star of the family. She had it all at one time, fame fortune and plenty of male suitors. So she looks around now and feels it shouldnt be this way. Kathy seems removed so she doesnt get the brunt of jealous anger, Kyle does.
So she tells Brandi all her one sided drug addled feelings about Kyle and instead of being a true friend and trying to help her mend her family and work through her feelings she tells her that her sister doesnt love her and wants to harm her. that she is jealous of her and wants to see her fall on tv.
Kyle was only trying to point our that Brandi is vaguely mentioning their private conversations each time they get into an argument and that one day she is going to spill all your business when it suits her. Just like she told the national viewing audience about the patch that she is on. all the family business will come out through Brandi.
I commend Yolanda with how she handled Brandi but i would be livid if my CHILD was portrayed as an alcoholic on tv . Brandi has no boundaries.
I dont think its fair to blame Kyle for her sister making herself the focus of the show with her addiction. I sincerely believe Kim continues to come back to the show for the check. She needs the money. Hopefully there is a financial goal that she is trying to reach so she can go to rehab and bow out of reality tv.
totally agree with what you have written here.
as for brandi saying that everyone is talking about Yolanda’s child being an alcoholic we all know that is total BS. Brandi is just trying to spin it her way which is her usual style.
I hope that was the final nail in the coffin for Yolanda.
At first when Kyle outted Kim as an alcoholic I was like “Oh shit bad move Kyle.” But that was then this is now. I think Kyle’s intention was to provide that tough love to get Kim into rehab finally which didn’t happen until the following the season. Kim played into what the fans of the show thought of that moment and she didn’t get help til something in her made her weak up and go get help. Even then, Kim has been one bit sober in my opinion. Detoxed maybe but never sober.
I notice Brandi talks and tweets about her older son but has called the younger one an asshole on her podcast. Does she still have custody of both??Also, the older one looks like her while the younger one looks more like Eddie. I wonder if it is subconsciously because he looks like Eddie. Asshole is an interesting choice of words for an 7..8 yr old kid.
So ironic how Brandi wanted “custody” of Kim however, now that it is bringing attention to Brandi’s addiction problems she wants Lisa to talk to Kyle so she can intervene.
Good plan Brandi especially after filling Kim’s head of how Kyle has been there “zero” times and there is “crazy jealousy” there. Oh yeah and they “hate each other”. Why would you suggest that if you really believed that Ms. Thruth Cannon? Poor Kim is now like a hot potato that Brandi doesnt know how to deal with.
Preach!
I said in the uppost that now Brandi wants to slowly but surely remove herself from being Kim’s friend now. She must have enough information on Kim/Kyle that she needs. She’s the devil and evil. Did you hear make a murder-suicide comment about Kim because Brandi is running her mouth. Lisa R looked like she wanted to run for cover. We know what happened last time took their life on this freakin show. Brandi is just the pits!
I get that they were both upset but two 40 something grown women sitting in opposite corners of a party openly crying while their friends gather around them is so junior high to me!! Clearly this is not a new issue so I just don’t understand why they deal with it so childishly each and every time (driveway scene, limo scene, etc).
Brandi said everything you need to know about why she acts the way she does when she said “…worry when they stop talking about you…” She’ll keep doing it as long as it keeps her name in people’s mouths! She’s an absolute MESS.
Oh and Brandi also defined herself as a classic case functioning alcoholic!! Just because you get up and go to work everyday doesn’t mean you aren’t an alcoholic!!
Kyle running around at that gay mixer was just like watching the drama queen at a middle school party. So bad that it was laughable. Seriously, someone restage that scene with teenagers and have them do the same dialog. Belongs on an ABC Family show.
Totally!
Brandi is trying to isolate Kim from the people that love her. “I’m the only one that cares about you” I’m the only one you can trust etc etc. Its a very similar behavior that abusers do to their victims. It is really disturbing to watch.
You are correct! This is exactly what abusers do to their victims. Brandi is a new kind of dangerous that I don’t think we have ever seen on any HW franchise.
To people that keep talking about what Kyle needs to do; you obviously have not dealt with an addict. There is nothing she can do to aid in Kim’s addiction, she’s the first person Kim pushes away for no reason when she’s relapsing. She chooses to have only people who will enable her around; Brandi. She will fight everyone that truly cares for her with made up excuses until she is sober again.
Well, if Kyle would just realize this and not feed into this over and over again with all the sophomoric scenes in public, on cameda, everywhere then people would be much more understanding of sweet Kyle. Some of us want to see Kyle put on her big girl shapewear drawls and set Kim and Brandi in place and refuse to react. Kyle has got to learn that people will f with you because they can. Lisa V was trying to school her but she got so upset. I speak from experience from having a baby sister who came back from Duke college in the nineties with a degree and a coke habit. She is sober now 13/years but I was a psychotic wreck trying to fix her for the family. Listen, Kyle has to protect herself and let Kim bottom out. She has got to shut the door unless she is rehabilating. Not fair to Kyle’s kids to see mom act the damn psycho while aunt is high. Shut the door Kyle. Brandi will move on from Kim. She is not interested in Kim, she is interested in being in the middle of a dramatic battle. Kyle needs to shut this shit down. Can’t WAIT for the reunion!!
Lisa V did say in her confessional that Kyle needs to stop buying into Brandi’s garbage and giving her what she wants. Don’t feed into her evil ways. But I do see Kyle’s dilemma she wants to save her sister badly but we all know Kim has to want it for herself.
Oh how did I forget to comment on Brandi’s ridiculous comment about stop talking about her! LMAO, Brandi doesn’t want anyone to stop talking about her.
My original thoughts were that Max was asking about his heritage to work his way up to asking his parents about finding his birth parents. But looks like no-for now.
I really can’t stand Pandora-I imagine Lisa to be Jackie Kennedy snob-successful and sophisticated, but can go all Joan Collins/Alexis Carrington in the Board room when she needs has to. I see her being polite but distant. Pandora on the other hand, I would put money on the fact that she is an insufferable spoiled brat, and her husband reminds me of a sober Scott Disick. “Pandy” really gets on my nerves and comes across to me as an entitled bitch. Like she REALLY works for Lisa.
It seems like there is a pretty universal desire almost, to know where you come from. Why isnt this accepted from Max? None of the family knows how it feels to be adopted, or how it feels to Max. I dont give a damn about how a biological sibling feels about it. Its not their journey. They shouldnt be so self centered, and cant possibly know how it feels, so should shut the fuck up about it and be supportive. Its only the family that hasn’t been so great, that should have to worry about losing the person. Id be more open to hearing from people who have been adopted, not the siblings whose only concern is “how does it effect me?”.
Great recap! I should have hit the gym with this episode….I feel like I wasted an hour of my life…def not one of the best eps. I have always liked Kyle, Kim not as much. Feel really bad that she doesn’t get it about her sister. My advice is, google addiction/recovery then find a support group. FA is a really good one. It’s a 12 step for people who have family + loved ones who are addicts. Nothing else to say on BG, I’ll just keep emailing + tweeting Bravo to get rid of her and keep hope alive. Love Rinna and Eileen to pieces. Hands down the classiest of HW’s. Love Yo too. Eileen @eileen_davidsontweeted about her indie film:
I completely understand Vanderpump and pandora being upset. I’m adopted and while this was never a secret in my family, I were never “labeled” adopted. We just didn’t discuss it. I knew who my birth mother was and choose not to have a relationship with her. As I became and adult I slowly started talking to her and allowed her to be a part of my life. I don’t call her mother and I have made it abundantly clear that I don’t view her as such. But it was/is extremely hard for my siblings to understand that I’ve allowed her to be part of my life. My mother says it doesn’t bother her but I’m not sure I believe that either. I get their pain. They are worried that I will replace them. They have been my life since I was little. They don’t understand why I would want “this stranger” to be in my life. It’s hard for everyone.
And in saying that I understand Pandora and I don’t find her comments juvenile.
Great recap.
Great recap TT! My question: if Kim has a son, Chad, that is actually only 16 still living at home, where is his father? Why hasn’t he stepped in to take custody away from the train wreck named Kim? I can’t even address Brandi.
He is not sixteen! Kimberly is the youngest and she is either 18 or 19 now! Chad has to be around 22.
Thanks Angel! I had read his age in above comments and assumed it to be accurate. Appreciate you clearing it up.
I didnt thnk Chad would be a minor child, as they made a big deal out of Kim being an empty nester now.
I knew that Brandi would throw Kim under the bus but didn’t think it would be so early in the season— I actually felt pity for Kim when Brandi told Lisa R. how sad it was that Kim called her her best friend since she doesn’t have many girlfriends. Then she “slips” and tells Lisa R about the patch–but did anyone notice when Lisa was talking about Kim’s addiction and told brandi “somethings gonna happen—somethings already happened”….Brandi then cut her off and said- kind of under her breath but loud enough to hear–“more than you’ll even know”. Now that’s looking out for your friend Brandi.
How many people or dogs are Kim’s best friend? I’ve heard her say Kyle, Kinglsey, Brandi, Monty, her daughter Kimberly, her ex-con ex- boyfriend and now Brandi. Sorry- that was random but it irks me when a woman pushing 50 is acting like a 12 year old.
Same exact thought Jeannie. Brandi is no one’s friend, not even Kim’s. If this doesn’t convince Kim Brandi doesn’t have her best interest I don’t know what will.
If we’re talking about what “can” Kyle do, can she just for once, stop blaming an outside person as the reason Kim acts as she does? At least if the sisters are fighting, Kim’s being kept awake and can’t leave the room to take whatever it is she’s taking.
And for any family member who decides to shut-the-door and walk away until their loved one hits bottom, make sure you’ve made peace with the greater than 50% chance they will die. Hitting bottom is not a precursor to getting the right help.
Make sure you’ve said farewell. My friend died waiting for his family to kick in the door and haul his ass to rehab for the 3rd time. He knew they were having a family meeting to decide what to do. When they didn’t arrive, he knew they’d given up. So he did too.
sorry. Had to say this. Makes me angry.
So everyone that knows Kim should put her self inflicted problem ahead of real problems. Kim’s 16 year old son probably needs some guidance but hey Kim needs constant reassurance that she is cared for by people fighting over her? Her ex husband is waiting for his end to come but lets focus a little more time on Kim’s 8th relapse because this 50 year old woman needs to feel special today. Sorry, there are much greater and more relevant issues for Kim’s family and friends yo deal with. Kim needs to get her butt in a rehab and then appologize to all she has wronged.
Yea, in my hurried typing it might sound like I mean they should keep fighting. (I was being a smart ass when saying that fighting btw Kim & Kyle at least keeps Kim occupied. Didn’t mean to sound like fighting equals love. If I did, I’d need an intervention.) But what I mean is keep fighting for those you love who are addicted. Even if, in your example, that means focusing on those the addict can’t care for. Like the son and the terminally ill ex. Fighting for, not fighting with. Bc when you give up fighting for their sobriety, be at peace with it and say goodbye.
Please people stop saying Kim has a a 16 year old son! Kim has 4 children. Brooke is the oldest her father is Monty. Then comes Whitney and Chad who’s father is Greg Davis (Davis Oil). The youngest is Kimberly who’s father is John Jackson. We watched Kimberly head off to college last year so how is Chad only 16? Sorry but it bugs me lol!
Wait, so Kim’s nephew is that greaseball Brandon Davis? Humph… News to me. Thanks for that very enlightening piece of info. It explains a lot..
I totally agree with you. I was told by well meaning friends to let my son “hit bottom” but death as a possible result was absolutely unacceptable. I never gave up, and after numerous relapses he’s sober, educated and most of all, alive. The difference with Kim is that she’s so much older and each relapse is a step closer to never waking up. Kyle should stop bitching about Brandi and that family needs to get involved OFF CAMERA if they really care about Kim’s survival. At the very least, get her off of the show. I get the feeling Kyle’s biggest concern is that Brandi may have heard some family secrets, and doesn’t want Brandi blabbing.
Good for you Queen, GOOD for you!! And your son of course =) Makes me so happy to read your lil’ story. It takes a LOT out of the people who are the support system, so I know you had to go thru so much to get where you are.
And I agree; get that Kim off camera. It just seems to exacerbate the “hiding behind a facade for the camera” behavior that Kim, Kyle & Kathy clearly learned at a young age.
If they’re going to do an intervention, it better be with Kim’s loved ones NOT the ladies. That would be a disaster. Kim’s kids are probably the only ones that could help her make a change. Kim needs a reason to get well, not having the ladies attack her actions. She wouldn’t see them as being concerned, just nosey. And Kyle needs to leave Kim be, or quit crying and playing the blame game. Just tell her you love and want to help her.
I cant help but think Lisa V.’s new story line about Max is to generate sympathy. She was always the beloved, and she lost a lot of fans recently. I could be wrong, but there’s something so fake about the whole thing. You couldn’t pay me to put this sensitive subject on tv.
Love or hate Brandi, I think she’s overwhelmed with the info she has about Kim. She knows she’s out of her league on how to help Kim, and wants to pass the torch without hurting her. LOVE Eileen and felt bad at the reactions from her “friends” at the movie. I would have cheered her no matter my opinion of it.
TT- yeah, don’t defend “my gays.” Really. I’m not PC, but if anyone referred to me as one of their gays, I’d most probably rethink the friendship. I’m not a beany baby or Hummel figure, and to use the term that way does reduce someone to a collectible object. Say “my gay friends” and go on.
@xanadude, I even hesitate to say “my gay friends.” I don’t say “my black friend Heather” either. Just “my friend, Heather.” I realize there may be times that the adjective is necessary (ex. My friend, Jay, who’s gay, was asking about your brother).
Can I ask approximately how old you are? I think this is a generational thing.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m 40.
Early 40s
twink.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Some ‘ride or die’ friend Brandi is. It sounds like she’s saying she got stuck with Kim somehow…that she didn’t sign on for all of Kim’s fucked up problems, and she sure didn’t sign on to be a ‘sober companion’. She’s been dealing with Kim for six months (or so) and the weight of being Kim’s babysitter is probably getting a little old by now. Maybe it’s time to pass the Kim torch back over to Kyle, but make it look like a third party initiated it, to keep Brandi looking like Kim’s ‘ride or die’ friend. When really all Brandi wants is to unload Kim and all her baggage because she is a total pain in the ass.
Yes Ginger. Brandi is a 42, 43 fun girl who acts like shes still 16. No way she wants to “babysit” Kim anymore or be her ride/die friend anymore. Brandi is so lousy. I still cant believe she has a fanbase.
Ok so lately I have not been a Yolanda fan, however, the way she handled Brandi in their yoga class was beyond exceptional. She didn’t scream or yell, or lower her self down to Brandi’s level. She pretty much just shamed Brandi and moved on. Kudos.
I agree. Very classy, and I am definitely not a fan. I would love her to say what she actually thinks though about the Brandi/Kyle/Kim situation now she has seen the episodes. As she isn’t blogging we don’t know. Maybe at the reunion…if she makes it.
I wish Yo would reflect on how LVP tried to take the wine bottle from Brandi last season (while Yo and Brandi were running around late at night) and realize that Lisa was trying to help Brandi over a year earlier. I guess I am the type of person who needs an apology, and until Yo apologizes to Ken and Lisa on the show, I can not really get past it. Personally, I feel very sorry for Yo dealing with her health issues. I also was impressed with how Yo handled Brandi.
I think I can understand how Lisa V and Pandora may have been feeling a bit. My older sister was adopted. My father was our mother’s first boyfriend but they broke up and my mother married another man. They couldn’t have children so they adopted my sister. He died and after 20 years my father and mother reconnected, married and I was born 15 months later. My mother never showed any difference between my sister and me and I knew from early on my sister was adopted. After we were both grown, my sister’s biological sister found my sister. It threw me for a loop. I was upset and jealous. I was so afraid that I was going to lose my ONLY sister to her real family. Fortunately it didn’t happen. We loved each other through it, but it was a real fear for me.
Oh my God! Do you hate BHOBH this much? Can’t even manage a “tantric fart”? I love you Tamara but . . . . . you need a vacation!
WTF are you nattering on about, Cyndy?
As somebody commented earlier if Brandi is suggesting a group intervention we know its going to be a bad idea .. but she will love it.. she will sit back smugly just like she did when everyone attacked Lisa V at the dinner table re the magazine .. remember that? Brandi basically loaded the gun and then got everyone else to fire the bullets with her sitting back smiling & loving it.
Hey, whatever takes the spotlight off her drinking she is up for.
Oh please . . . Kim needs an intervention. It’s time someone said something to saved her soul. Kyle will die and lie before she admits this has been going on for decades. Kim can’t help how much “happy hormone” her brain secretes/produces. She’s depressed, unhappy and . . . . . self medicates. SOMEONE needs to do something!
I used to watch these Real Housewives shows to escape my life and peek into how the rich live. All of these shows have become so ratchet and Bravo seems to thrive on misery. I’m concerned how they are exploiting this Kim storyline when she clearly needs help..shame, shame, shame. I thought Eileen ‘ intervention might work but there is deep hurt between Kim and kyle even if Brandi is not part of the equation. Yolanda looks unwell this episode.
I thought Yolanda was looking a little unwell in this episode too! She looked tired. All the travelling she does can not help her condition.
So excited, I posted my question on WWHL (or in this case wwhtaped). And I got picked. So next Tuesday I will be caller #1 with my question for LVP!
YAY! Caller, what’s your name and from where are you calling?
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Kendra from Newport RI
Kim is clearly on something! More scarey is we only see bits & pieces. Brandi almost admitted it to Lisa R in the end when she said “If Kim thought we were questioning her sobriety she would die” I think FINALLY we see It has hit Brandi she is in over her head & this is way more than bickering sisters & who got more points that week. They need to stop enabling Kim & stay firm or they will be at her funeral.
This is awful to say, but boy do those drugs age a person. Kim looked old, haggard and gaunt, prior to rehab. Then after , I thought she looked great, rested filled out and happy, so pretty.Now that shes back on drugs again , she looks older overnight, anguished and a wreck. I dont reallt care about what people look like, but goes to show you these meds, prescription or otherwise wreak such havoc on a persons physical and mental health. Id much rather deal with my problems in another way, and hope Kim gets back on track again.
I would love if the intervention that Brandi suggested had everyone attend except for Kim. Then they could all turn around and have the intervention for Brandi. I know that won’t happen but it would have been great.
Wasn’t it a rumor that last season the cast was to give Brandi an intervention, but that storyline was scrapped as Brandi refused to participate? Maybe I’m crazy and remember it wrong?
Everyone does remember Brandi has been loud and proud about her love for xanax. Have you any idea what that’s like mixed with alcohol and no food? And I think a lot of her “give a fuck attitude” comes from the lexapro giving her big balls. I know bc I was a Brandi for a while in college only with Zoloft and no xanax. I could probably count on one hand how many classes I went to that year.
Not to mention I’m sure Brandi shares with Kim, you know, being the good friend she is and all.
I feel like Kim has moved from one bitch (her dog Kingsley, i know it’s a ‘he’) to another (Brandi) for dependence. Kingsley never judged her when she got wasted, neither does Brandi.
I hope that Kingsley is brought up at the reunion. Incompetent animal owners need to be named and shamed.
It looks the whole cast should join Al Anon!
Why isn’t Brandi asking her good friend Jen, the addiction counselor, for help? For herself and for Kim?
Jen is the worst joke of an addiction counselor on earth. She enables Brandi’s overindulgence of alcohol so she can go to all the cool parties and be on TV. She sold out her field of work for a few minutes on the small screen. I find her repulsive.
Jen was also dating that schmuck of a comedian Andy something. Saw on Celebrity wife swap. Not sure if she still is though.He seemed high the whole episode.
I doubt that Brandi is Kim’s only friend. She zeroed in on Brandi to have a storyline to stay on the show.
Og- yes, I saw that celebrity swap episode too….why am I admitting that..but it was the strangest episode yet. Andy Dick was living in a trailer in the driveway of his ex-girlfriend’s home. Jen would come over and spend time with him alone in the trailer -somebody wants to be on TV, a lot. They said they met on Sober house…
I know I’m late to the party I was looking for the blow Sequoia line.