UPDATE: WSB Channel 2 is reporting that the injuries that the police found suspicious are on Bobbi Kristina’s face and mouth.
“A source close to the investigation says injuries to Bobbi Kristina’s face and mouth have Roswell police concerned and investigating further. Police are also looking into suspected drugs found in a home in the 9000 block of Riverbend Manor in Roswell.”
The family continues to remain at the hospital. I also heard to day that Pat Houston was treated at the hospital for extremely high blood pressure and is suffering physically from the stress of the situation.
Local CBS46 News is reporting that Bobby Brown is adamant about not removing Bobbi Kriss from life support. A purported close family friend, Monica Palmer, who has been in the hospital did an interview with CBS46 tonight. She says that Bobby Brown is convinced that prayer will save is daughter. Though Bobby himself was not caught by paps at Emory, Tyler Perry showed up today and Cissy was there for several hours other sources report.
Monica Palmer says the family is “sober but hopeful.” Monica, the *cough* “close family friend” *cough* says she thinks he is ” a father in pain.” No really? Thanks for going on TV to share that with us Monica! She admits she has no idea what Bobbi Kriss’s condition actually is. Um, I can help with that, doctors have said she doesn’t have enough brain activity to sustain a positive existence. But please, carry on Monica.
This may as well be a random person on the street making assumptions. Did she get paid for this nonsense?
Oh wait! It’s a publicity stunt. Here is her LinkedIn “Monica V Palmer Sr. Talent Booking Agent, Sr. Publicist, Artist Manager, Television Producer at M.V. Palmer Entertainment. Location Greater Los Angeles Area IndustryEntertainment.” Way to attention whore, Monica.
There is a vigil somewhere in Riverdale. RIVERDALE? Tomorrow for BK… I wonder who is promoting that…#Shameful
This was CBS46 lead story after the Grammys…/sigh
We’re going to see a lot more promotion of this crap in the days to come as more and more people come forward to draw attention to themselves over a tragedy.
FYI, Nick Gordon is expected in court on unrelated charges tomorrow.
Nice journalism, CBS46! No exploitation there at all. The vultures creep in…
Nauseating. Poor dad.
Did she really say the family is “sober but hopeful” or is that a misprint? I don’t mean to laugh, but if that’s the case I don’t think Bobby Brown has been sober in a decade.
That’s not the version of the word sober she was using. I don’t know if you were making a joke, but supposedly BB had been sober for years now.
Hi, Lori! I agree. One definition of “sober” is clear headed, so she used it properly.
A better choice word would have been “somber” not “sober”.
SOMBER….a better descriptor…but, after a couple of days of “poor me…poor me…POUR ME ANOTHER!” PERHAPS “SOBER” is more appropriate.
I don’t remember… she may have said “somber” …Could have been a Freudian slip? I was neither somber or sober at the time.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I don’t think he’s been sober since his 20’s.
I realize this totally not my business, but I assume Whitney left the majority of her estate to her daughter-I wonder who the estate will pass on to. I hope it’s not her “husband”. This whole thing is such a tragedy. How different would this young woman’s life had been had she grown up with a mother and father who were sober.
Why are you so adament that Bobby isn’t sober? That is exactly what the Houstons would like for the world to believe.
You are heartless, it’s not about the Father, it’s about Bobbi Kristina. You need to go somewhere and PRAY!!!
Shut the fuck up.
Smh I hope you never have to face a most disturbing situation as this,so plz be mindful and not arrogant
Is there an actual hospital PR release stating she is brain dead?
No, and I doubt there will be any type of release regarding her condition unless it’s approved by the family… Ya know HIPPA laws and all that…
It is the public who needs prayer, not BK.
Let’s face it people, she was underwater for an undetermined amount of time and has been on a respirator ever since. Barring a medical miracle, she will never breathe on her own again, and if she does, she will likely be a shell of herself, like Terri Schiavo was. Why didn’t the family remove her from life support when her remaining viable vital organs could still be used (the liver, and possibly the lungs, would likely not be eligible due to alcohol and drugs)? All that can be used now is small tissue and other non-vitals. I have had to make that decision; it is not easy. I had a nervous breakdown after the decision was made, but I know that I made the right choice. The way I look at it is, would I want to live like that? No. Case closed. Let her go and be at peace. I absolutely do not wish that child dead, but medically
she is all but dead. If not for the respirator, her funeral would have been held last week.
But they aren’t you so they have to deal with it in their own way! We don’t know if she is an organ donor but I doubt that’s what’s on their mind right now! I’m sorry for what you’ve endured and grateful you could make that decision! I can’t even imagine!
I understand your point, but the prolonging of the agony is merely greed on the part of the living. I hate to know that that child is having to endure this. Think about it, if it were you, what would you want? I, personally, would not want to live like that. If you disagree, please see drG’s opinion below. Although I am not a physician or a nurse, I work on the administrative side of a hospital and had to take the same science courses they did in college (yes, I am admin, but my degree is accredited, hence having to take all of the core allied science classes). Trust me, it is best to take her off the machines and let her die in peace. Even if, by some chance, she wakes up, she will be severely brain damaged to the point that she will need to be taken care of like an infant. The person they knew is gone. It’s brutal, but it’s best to let her go.
Wow greed upon the living?! Hmmm so someone tries to commit suicide will you tell them how selfish they are as well?! I think you are totally missing the point! You can look at this in a totally clinical way have gone through this but I honestly can’t say what I would want for me or what I would do in that situation I think I said that previously! I’m not sure what all of your allied science classes have to do with anything though I’m a healthcare professional and I don’t think that validates anything here! They are in denial yes but they have to get over that hurdle which I hope they will soon! It’s not about harvesting organs here! Let’s just agree to disagree because they are going through it and this has to be the hardest pill to swallow!
TT you must have a rule against excessive use of exclamation points?
I’m praying for Bobbi Kristina,and I have no use to entertain the negative things that are being said,
Mr.Bobby Brown whatever you do DO NOT PULL THE PLUG BECAUSE GOD IS NOT FINISH YET…
Actually, it seems pretty obvious that God is finished. If he is just going to start randomly bringing back the dead, it would seem he would pick someone like Albert Einstein, or Elvis or someone…
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m sorry for your loss,and that you had to make that decision concerning your loved one. However,this is not your child nor is It any of your business what Mr.Brown decides to do. Is it being greedy because someone believes in God and in miracles? I’m still praying for her myself…Doctors are not God and neither are you. So if I were you,I wouldn’t judge Mr. Brown or anyone who decides to keep their loved ones on life support,and calling him greedy is uncalled for and classless.
Thank you cl ward!
I’m not sure how keeping BK on life support makes BB “greedy”. How could he possibly be benefiting from it?
It’s a very difficult decision, My mom was in a fire and although not brain dead, she was greivously injured. Not 6 hours after the fire, the doctors were recommending we remove the feeding tube and ventilator. I refused.
My mom could hear me and as I cried to her, I said to her I would let God make the decision, that I would take her off the ventilator, but I would never agree to taking her off the feeding tube. I told her I couldnt let her go like that.
I went home after being at the hospital for over 24 hours, to take care of my pets,take a shower and was heading right back. As soon as I left, mom passed away. God took that decision away from me. And I thank HIm for that because I could not have done it.
I feel for Bobby Brown. It isnt an easy decision and she is so young that it makes it even harder. Be kind. What needs to be done will be done. Either by Bobby Brown or by God. He might not be a great father but he clearly loves her.
Just be kind. And try not to judge. Even if you experienced something similar, you didnt experience the same thing. No one can walk in another’s shoes, all we can do is try.
Beautifully said Cheryl. I am so sorry for the loss of your Mom.
Funerals are closure for the living. Refusing to let go is greedy; it is merely prolonging the agony on the living. Sheesh, Google “possible outcomes from oxygen deprivation.” I don’t know if she is, but I wish she is an organ donor. It is my opinion that we all should be. What better way to pay it forward? People do not realize how many people their bodies can benefit. In this day and age, we definitely do not have enough burial space, so why not? My point is, people torture themselves longer than they have to, thanks to science; science has gotten too good at playing God. If we didn’t have respirators, she would have been pronounced DOA. I am not God, nor do I pretend to be, but I believe in God. If you believe in God and miracles, pull the plug and see what happens. I am not judging, I am merely stating the facts.
I would love to see her wake up and be normal. Sadly, that will never happen. I am merely stating the facts. Keeping someone on life support is not allowing them to live or die organically. For your entertainment, cl ward, I am a Sustaining Member of the Junior League.Take that and run with it as you will. I have no doubt that you will find fault in the fact that I volunteer my time to work with impoverished and abused women and children in my community to improve their lives, and their quality of life.
With that thought process, then wouldn’t the use of science to take one person’s organs to save another person, who would otherwise die, also be considered playing God? Just saying…
Cheryl, God bless you. That must have been a horrific experience. Agreed that we should not be judging here.
I seen a post on here somewhere saying someone is asking for funeral donations for BK ! I was like damn people are after a $$$ and she’s still alive!
As you said TT, “the vultures creep in”. I have a feeling the circus is getting ready to begin. I wish they’d just let her go in peace. I feel for BB and the rest of the family, but who benefits from prolonging this?
The circus is already in town if they flew in an LA publicist! I’m heading back to Atlanta today, my condo in Colony Square is adjacent to the W Hotel. I will take a walk to the adjacent/connecting retail and food court area to see if they are there. Might wear a hard hat and safety goggles in case of flying glass…
Maybe her father does. She’s not suffering. What is it to all of these people who are so anxious for him to pull the plug? This man’s heart is feeling the absolute worst pain imaginable. She is HIS CHILD. He will do it when he is ready.
I can’t bring myself to comment on this story or the Bruce Jenner story. I think we need population control for bottom feeders looking to take advantage of and exploit others.
I agree with you, JD. However, more and more people are feeling the need for attention to validate themselves, seeking outward approval. It’s a true pandemic.
Wait, didn’t you just “comment in this story”?
Just the other night when I was out walking my dog, I found myself deep in a daydream of how wonderful it would be if God (or whomever) just reached down and plucked all of the non-empathetic, selfish, cruel, greedy, disgusting people off of the face of the earth in one fell swoop. Ahhhhhh… I wonder what percentage of the population would disappear.
the most pious of all would vanish instantly
I think we’d all get plucked up for one reason or another!
TT as a physician I find the concept of brain death from Anoxic brain injury a very difficult concept to explain to families and for families to understand. Even to “normal Familes” Familes walk into the ICU and they see the chest moving(coz of the ventilator) then they see the heart monitors recording heart beat and pulse and even sometimes see involuntary movement. So they think the person is still alive.
Try explaining that to crach-head “crack is wack” Bobby Brown.. I feel so bad of the physicians.
You don’t sound like a medical doctor.
I totally agree. Too many spelling and grammar mistakes, poor sentence structure, and of course, the last sentence which shows tremendous immaturity and complete lack of compassion.
What exactly does a doctor sound like? Lots of people are in jobs which may require a higher level of intellect but can’t spell! What job do you think I have?
Idc what job you have. Not everything to do with spelling, but I don’t envision doctors calling people crackheads on blogs.
Based on your overuse of exclamation points I will guess…. That you’re also not a doctor?
I agree @Jujue. drG doesn’t seem to be a physician. I get it, the point was sound, but my dad, who is is a physician, would never write like that. EVER. And, Bobby Brown is not a crack head. Whatever he may have been, he isn’t now. Why are we all so mean about our judgement?
lol lol lol lol lol…….
you don’t sound like a physician but what do I know. And an MD calling people “crach-heads” is scary.
Whitney made that statement — not Bobby, Dr. Seuss!
What an ugly, needless comment.
And if you are a doctor, I feel very sorry for your patients and their families. Nice compassion.
I use to work for an organ procurement agency. Brain dead, but heart beating is the only way organs can be taken from a patient for transplant. The brain being gone but the body still functioning was explained to me in this way. Brain death is like when a child jumps off of a swing she has been riding on. The swing keeps moving on it’s own for awhile, but the child is gone. The body keeps functioning for awhile also after the brain is gone.
Wow the swing was such a good explanation. Thanks for that.
I hope he does the right thing and let her go. She needs to rest in peace.
My heart goes out to Bobby Brown, I lost a daughter to cancer in 2008 and I kept believing for a miracle. NO ONE SHOULD JUDGE HIM UNLESS YOU HAVE BURIED A CHILD! I’m praying that Bobbi Kris gets a miracle. My heartbreaks for the whole family, especially Bobby. I don’t care what he has done in the past he loves his child! Thanks Tamara for calling out the creepy people, God help them!
Deb, I’m sorry for your loss. I can not even imagine having to bury one of my children, I literally think a piece of me would die too. No disrespect meant, but I disagree with your statement, “NO ONE SHOULD JUDGE HIM UNLESS YOU HAVE BURIED A CHILD!”. Even if one has buried a child, it doesn’t give them the right to judge Bobby Brown; instead we should be Praying that he’s able to make the “right” decision (the decision that’s right for BK and the rest of the family). I feel empathy, sympathy and sorrow for any parent who’s lost their child…we should NEVER have to bury one of our children.
I agree with everything you said. And I am so sorry for your loss.
BB has admitted publicly the errors of his ways and has been sober for decades now. Until he says differently, I have no reason not to believe him. I am heartsick for him and I don’t envy his position right now and I’m sure anyone here with half a heart would agree. If i were in a position to have to make that decision I honestly don’t know if I could do it either. The timing and way his daughter was discovered has got to be killing him inside. Like him or not, he is a father faced with having to let his daughter go. No parent should have to ever be in that position but it happens and it’s got to be horrific for him. I will continue to pray for BK and the family and I will pray that God will give BB the strength to come to terms with the situation and make a decision he can live with.
@Never, well said and I agree 100%!
He hasn’t been sober for long. He was arrested twice in 2012 for DUI, and went to rehab in 2013. He also served jail time in 2013 for his DUIs. Sadly, I don’t think he’s strong enough to maintain sobriety right now. Having sad that, I think he got the shit end of the stick and was blamed for everything Whitney did wrong. She was just as bad as he was, and the two toxic people brought out the worst in each other.
No matter what Bobby Brown did wrong, he’s always loved his daughter. He did the right thing by having her transferred to Emory. At least there will be no regrets if he finally comes to terms with Bobbi Kristina’s status and decides to let her go. I would hope that he would make the decision to share her organs with others. We had to make that decision for my 11 yr old nephew. While waiting for a double lung transplant, he rapidly decompensated, required ventilation, and took an anoxic hit as his CO2 climbed. He was declared brain dead, so my brother and SIL made the selfless decision to donate what organs they could. I can only hope Bobby will come to terms that he has lost the Bobbi Kristina he knew and not turn her into another Jahi McGrath. My prayers are with him.
honestly I think Whitney was worse because she was America’s sweetheart while he was seen as the villain, she modeled for years before becoming a singer & therefore was exposed to plenty of drugs long before Brown ever came on the scene, but she was above reproach because of her talent. And it is what killed her and ruined Bobbi Kristina’s life.
I’m not making accusations, just asking.
Didn’t Bobby Brown have a DUI recently?
On March 26, 2012, Brown was arrested for DUI after being pulled over for allegedly using a cell phone while driving.
On August 14, 2012, Brown was undergoing treatment in rehab for alcohol addiction.[19]
On October 24, 2012, Bobby Brown was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol for the second time this year.[20]
On February 26, 2013, Bobby Brown plead no contest to suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol
I sincerely hope he’s clean now so he can make the decisions he makes with a clear head
I think Whitney died on the 11th. Please God, don’t let her father decide to keep her on that damn machine until that day and THEN take her off so that she and her mom will share the same death date. I don’t know why it bothers me to think that is his plan…but it absolutely creeps me out.
I agree. In a sick sort of way, it kind of makes sense though. If that’s how he thinks his brain can handle it, then let that be the decision. He is the one still alive, after all. If that will help him deal, then God bless him.
I hope he chooses the best way he can and still cope. It’s all just so sad.
Well….Looks like I might have called this one. I just read in this mornings news that the family plans to take her off life support on same day Whitney died. I do understand that the news gets it wrong sometimes so of course I still plan to wait for Tamara’s update before I believe it 100%. I’m not quite sure how I feel about this. It bothers me for reasons I am at a loss over. I know that if it were my child under similar circumstances, I might do the same thing. Grief can be so overwhelming and I think this may give them comfort…and that is something I cannot and will not argue about. Like I said, I am not sure why it bothers me. I pray that they can get through this. I have lost a child ((40 years ago) and know they have a lot of pain to overcome. It will be with them the rest of their lives.
A child holds their mother’s hand for a little while,
but holds their heart forever..
Dear Fellow Tamaratattles readers….I blew it…I broke a rule in my last comment. I was suppose to send this info to Tamara to check out instead of putting it in comments. I caught this mistake AFTER I posted. Let’s face it, some of us get damn stupid during menopause and I am one of those idiots. I have already notified Tamara with the error of my ways and hopefully it will all be removed. I thought while I was awaiting my fate…I would address you guys with a gentle reminder that it never pays to be stupid. Always read and reread your comments and ask yourself if you have broken any of Tamara’s rules. Trust me when I tell you it is no fun to feel this dumb. 🙂 ::(
Common sense should have yelled at me that Tamara would know about this if it were true and would have already reported on it.
I am ready for the much deserved pain…….
And in the meantime, tens of thousands of dollars are expended every day from (I suppose) Bobbi Kristina’s inheritance. That’s one way to keep the Houston family from getting there hands on the money. Sorry for the cynicism.
Aaargh! “their” not “there”. Please, blogger can you incorporate an edit function?
I am even more cynical.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT:
Bobby inherits whatever cash Bobbi Kristina inherits after her death. Whatever has not been dispersed is left to the Houstons. If BK is kept alive for the next four years, she stands to inherit quite a bit more, which then goes to her nearest relative, HER DAD (unless NG can prove he is her legal husband and innocent of killing/injuring her) after her “official” death.
Her father is also able to make legal decisions for BK (again, unless NG can prove he is the husband).
Thus, it is in her father’s best financial interest to keep BK alive while it is in the Houston’s best financial interest to make the case that she is already dead. In my cynicism, I wonder if this is why the Houstons are planning a funeral before this girl is already dead and why Bobby is insisting that her eyes have moved or there are flickers of life.
Could be sentimentality, sure. But I didn’t see any of that love or sentimentality while this girl was alive, so it could also be cold, hard greed.
This is going to be a very very interesting ride.
Her name is Tamara. Have some respect or um, IDK, start your own damn blog.
I don’t know about others, but when I am typing, if I make a spelling error, it automatically underlines that error in red. I also go back and re-read what I have written to make certain that I have not missed something. By the way, the name of the blog gives you a clue as to the name of the ‘blogger’. I think that she would appreciate the dignity of being called by her name in this situation. But, that’s just my guess…
To any internet commenter who has blamed their phone or spell check,
It’s not “stupid auto correct”, it’s people’s selfish need to be FIRST because their comment is so important and they need to get it out there fast so they can get credit for being first… Which they rarely are. Did the computer force you to hit “post comment”? If it did, God help us all, the end is near!
Technology is just making us all impatient. Slow it down and have respect for the Internet strangers that you are hoping will find your comment amusing.
What I believe doesn’t matter. It is the next of kin’s choice to keep her on a vent. Many people believe where there is life there is hope. No matter how old you are(legal adult), appoint a medical power of attorney and make a living will. My heart breaks for the family.
As for me, I’m having DNR tattooed on my chest. Also keep a copy of your living will and MPoA in an easily accessible place incase of EMTs/paramedics.
I keep coming here for the common sense updates. Thanks TT.
He needs to make the decision when he is ready. It is to hard and he might not recover if he is pushed. The guilt in Whitney ‘ s death not that he was responsible but for all the good living they missed out on when they were drugging and knowing they maybe responsible for Chrissey flawed life. That burden is too heavy. May God be with him to guide him thru.
I don’t think one week is long enough for the situation to sink in for Bobby. I don’t mean anything bad about him, I just mean it is a difficult situation to be in. It may take a bit longer for him to get past the shock and confusion. Especially, if reports are correct, he had a relative recover after 8 days on respirator. This is going to sound awful, but if a miracle is not going to occur, maybe her body will give out and she will pass without Bobby having to make that horrible decision. I say that because of a personal situation I experienced. Either way it’s in God’s hands. God will guide Bobby.
Maybe it’s against their religious beliefs to pull the plug. I really feel for them.
Good point!
I suspect for some of them it is. Cissy was a gospel singer I think so it might be. But as they watch BK’s body deteriorate they might change their minds, if she does not regain consciousness.
I don’t think that sounds awful at all Angel(?). Seems like a lot less burden to have the choice made for you than to carry the guilt and “what-ifs”. They will let her go when they are ready. I probably wouldn’t be ready yet if it were my youngin’.
So tragic. It’s understandable that his emotions are overruling head knowledge right now. That’s his baby. And even though she is an adult who made her own choices, Bobby is probably going through “shoulda coulda woulda” guilt. I’m usually a cynical, snarky heifer, but I’m not going to accuse BB of impure motives here. Prayers for the family. Thanks, TT, for your updates. Getting all my BK info here.
He is doing what he thinks is best. Doctors have said there. Is nothing THEY can do. That’s why doctors PRACTICE medicine. Bobby believes in a higher power than those docs. He is waiting and believing that God is going to heal heirs daughter. And it has happened
seems to me she was w/ her mom and humans yanked her right out of the hereafter.
I refused to take my sister off of life support, as nurses said she faught them. I suggested they stop all med…(she was not medically comatose…but comatose)…they did and she passed within hours. Probably still pissed at me!! It’s tough.
The coma, a doctor explained, “was how God separates the body from the spirit.”
Hope that gets shared where needed.
I believe this child is already in Whitney’s arms in God’s kingdom… RIP Bobby.
So do I.
In re keeping one on a ventilator: If BK has medical insurance and it is paying for the hospitalization, and if there is not enough brain activity according to attending doctors, there will come a time when the insurance company will say that after X date they will no longer pay the hospital bills. At this point all medical costs will need to be paid by the family if they choose to keep someone on life support. I don’t wish to sound cruel here but sometimes this is what pushes the family to withdraw life support.
In Re Money: My understanding is that Whitney established a trust and that obviously BK survived Whitney. According to the terms of the trust BK was to received distributions up until the time of her 30th birthday. I also believe — I could be wrong — that there was a stipulation in the trust that if BK marries before she is X years old that it will stop the planned distribution (Whitney’s way of protecting her daughter from vultures who just want to marry BK for her money and if true kudos to Whitney — this would also explain by BK and NG did not marry). Anyway … if BK does not have a Will, more likely than not Georgia’s probate law is that whatever money BK has in a bank will go to her spouse (none), children (none), parents (BB), and if no surviving parents then to siblings, grandparents. However whatever money that is left in Whitney’s trust will be distributed according to the terms of the trust, and since Whitney and Bobby were divorced after the trust was executed, he would not be considered a trust beneficiary. So any money left in WH’s trust will go to Whitney’s mother and siblings, and anyone else mentioned in the trust.
For the record I’m not an attorney but do know a little bit about estate and probate law.
Sookie-you’re right, I didnt even think about the ins. At some point, they will say no mas.
yeah it doesn’t sound like BK did much planning but it sure sounds like Whitney Houston had all her i’s dotted and her t’s crossed and it would not surprise me at all if Bobby Brown was not a beneficiary. Wow, what a mess this is. I wonder if the document is a private document, sometimes wills are filed at the courthouse but I don’t know if it is a matter of attorney client privilege or if the family is able to figure out who will inherit
@Sookie – you are on point. It appears that you, I and a couple of others share these sentiments. As far as NG not being BKs husband – yes, I posted that earlier…as this is the only explanation for her not marrying him- cause clearly she was beyond sprung. Unfortunately, the one I that Whitney forgot to dot was in the case of BK being medically incapacitated …. this is where BB stands to gain tremendously – especially if he keeps her on life support until she ages to the next scheduled payout in a few years.
@Gilette – I concur with your sentiments; I essentially conveyed those same thoughts (prior to today) on the other thread. However, several people responded that they thought this was somehow a fantasy or a case of watching to many episodes of snapped. Suffice it to say I stand by my original assertion from the other thread which syncs up with what you posted on this thread about BB potentially financially benefiting by keeping BK on life support (for years to come). Ultimately, time will tell. Stay tuned
Didn’t see it, but I absolutely believe it plays some role.
Particularly because whoever doesn’t get the money has to see it land in the hands of the opposite side of the family. When there is so much hatred, that might be an even bigger motivator.
In Re BB potentially financially benefiting by keeping BK on life support:
It will come down to the discretion of the trustee of Whitney’s trust and by the terms of said trust. If the insurance company (assuming BK had medical insurance) stops paying the bills to keep BK on life support, and if the trustee believes that there is hope and wants to wait and see, any disbursements from the trust would go to pay for BK’s hospital bills, not into a bank account so BB can financially benefit.
The money and royalty percentage she already inherited can be used for her medical care (if needed). In addition the balance that she has yet to inherit can be used for her medical care at the trustees discretion (for the larger Whitney Houston estate which has not been inherited yet) . However, if BB disagrees with the trustee he can go to court to get a payout from the trust to the hospital to pay for her medical care.
To be clear I am not suggesting that BB will have direct access to the money or that money will be put in bank accounts for BB to use before BK dies. However, he will have access/likely inherit what is left from the share of $$ and royalties that she has inherited before she dies . Everyone need to keep in mind that after BK inherits a portion of the estate, that it then becomes part of BKs estate and is no longer subject to the terms and conditions of Whitney’s will. I will be surprised if BB lawyer have not already gone to court and received emergency authorization naming BB as having her Power of Attorney (i.e. over the assets she has inherited thus far and the medical decisions that need to be made on her behalf).
If BK never executed a Durable Power of Attorney For Health Care, since it appears that BK is not married, then her father would be the one who would make all medical decisions for BK. There would be no need to go to court because if there is no spouse then the power would go to her parent(s).
This is why everyone should execute a Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care — and for the record you can appoint an agent who is not a relative.
Now as for obtaining a power of attorney over her financial affairs, I don’t think BB or his attorney have gone to court because they are more concerned about BK recovering than whatever money she may have in a bank account.
But here is a thought: what if BK and NG had a joint bank account? As a matter of law the funds in said account, if BK were to pass, would go to NG since he is a joint owner.
@Sookie IMHO it is his attorneys job to be concerned about making sure it is on record that BB is financial and medical power of attorney. Trust me the attorney is not standing watch at the hospital. IMHO BB needs to be appointed financial power of attorney NOW – so that he can move to protect her assets – i.e. change bank accounts and such so that NG or anyone else who had access does not try and pull a fast one and drain the funds she already inherited. Naturally, I do not think BB is going to spend the money on anything other then BKs care and BKs outstanding financial obligations- while she is still on life support.
I think he is going to wait until the 11th.
Our family has been through this kind of heartbreak. Although, I was just a teen. I went there everyday hoping for a miracle. Its so heartbreaking to let them go!
Did she inhetit what money Whitney still had? If so who will get/control of it if 1) she dies or 2) she remains on life support?
It is my understanding that she inherited 10% of the money and 10% of the royalties( as they come in to the estate). In a few years she will inherit a larger portion of the estate ($$ on hand and future $$ stream from royalties). However, if she dies prior to inheriting 100% of the estate, the balance will be split between the Mother and Brothers of Whitney H. However, the portion she inherits prior to her death, will likely go to BB because he is her closest living relative and it appears that Whitney did not have a provision in the will with respect to BK being medically incapacitated (as she ages into receiving a larger portion of the trust )
I’ve seen reports of her getting $1 or $2 million last year when she turned 21 with the balance payable to her when she turned 25. If she died before the funds were dispersed the funds would be split between Cissy and Whitney’s brothers.
@ superfly, you are looking at an outdated will. She updated it after they divorced, the one that had been circulating in recent days was a previous iteration and it you look at the one you were reading “again” – you will see that her former sister-in law was put in charge of the trust. After her bother Gary and that woman got divorced, she put her mother in charge. However, Cissy went to court after Whitney died and added Pat, as she probably felt like it was to much for her to take on at her age. However, she still has a say in decision making about the trust – she is just sharing this power with Pat H – who is refered to as Marion Pat Houston in the court records/modified trustee agreement
Interesting, they made a point of saying she didn’t update her will after the divorce. Thank you for the clarification.
SUPERFLY PLEASE READ THE COMMENTING RULES. I AM GETTING TIRED OF DELETING YOUR COMMENTS.
@Superfly, you are welcome :-). Yes, I saw those reports also (about no change in the will after the divorce), it struck me as odd that her divorce lawyer and her estate planning lawyer would not have advised her to change her will as soon as she filed for divorce, so I dug deeper and found the court proceedings about the updated codicil (which is an amendment that changes certain parts of the will; one part that was changed was excluding BB as a beneficiary ) . This was all approved in probate court by Fulton County Probate Court Judge Pinkie T. Toome.
I think the confusion in the earlier reports was that she did not totally throw out the old will and replace it with a new one. Instead she just modified certain aspects of it via the codicil she filed after divorce – so technically the pre-divorce will, is the will of record when COMBINED with the codicil changes – so if a reporter just looks at the date of signature of the will and NOT the date of the codicil changes – they would lead the readers to think that everything contained in the earlier will still applied – clearly it does not – per the subsequent codicils- which is why BB is excluded and her Mother was named as the executor – which was not the case in the original will (prior to her filing the codicils)
The whole will issue has been discussed in posts here many times. The problems come in when people who have not read the commenting rules want to come in and spew “facts” for something they “read somewhere.”
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Enough spew to have a drinking word, “codicils.”
@sandra LoL at providing you with codicils as a new drinking word … I do not think it will come up much though 🙂
Let us shoot for it not coming up any more at all.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I cant imagine having to make that decision, as a parent-and it’s easy for me to just say “let her go” but for all intents and purposes, it seems she’s gone. There are different levels of coma-vegetative state, persistent vegetative state, etc. I believe Terri Schiavo was in a PSV-they use a Glasgow Coma Scale to rate the patients level of unconsciousness-I’d be curious to know what BK is.
I hope and pray the Bobbi Kristina gets better. My prayers are with the whole family.
Why want the family turn off the life support they know doctor told them she is not gone making it.
What?
What in the…what? Maybe being a grammar cop isnt acceptable, but…
Be still my heart 😉 …could that be you, adorable Charmaine, aka Melinda Campbell?
ITS YOU…JUVIAL PHYSICALITY gave me one of the most satisfying chuckles (albeit years ago!) I’ve ever had!
“Why won’t the family turn off the life support if they know that the doctors have told them that she is not going to make it?” I believe this is the question that Melinda is trying to pose. However, if she went back and read the articles/posts, she would have the answer to that question. And this is just my guess as to what she is asking – not gospel…
This is just like Pentecostal church services! On one side of the church we have a random person speaking in tongues, and on another side, someone jumps up and does the translation!
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thank you for the belly laugh Tamara!
Can the family have privacy?? They have asked on more than one occasion. This whole ordeal is sad.
I understand journalist are important as they are supposed to hold the accountable accountable. But journalism is dead. They are nothing more than ambulance chasers, gossip mongers, biased, racist and anti leo, anti military stations. I grow so tired of seeing on my news feed or hearing on the news, reports of someone dead. So we are flying there now with our crew. Like seriously, let authorities do their job, families be notified and the deceased removed from the home before you start plastering the videos and pics of this horrible incident. They tell half truths and only parts of their story to further their biased views. Regardless if the facts are true , if sources are made up or the family’s wishes. I don’t care for Bobby brown however I do care for human compassion. He has asked several times for the media to respect his families’ privacy in this sad time yet every media outlets plasters story after story of made up shit regarding The situation. Vultures, fucking vultures!
If a person is left on a ventilator for too long and the doctors feel that there is no brain activity they will usually suggest that the ventilator be removed.
If the family refuses than they usually transfer the patient to a rest home or special place for people in a vegetative state where they can be cared for. They usually don’t hold hospital beds open for those who are believed to be brain dead for very long. I would not be surprised if Bobbi is moved to another place if she doesn’t respond soon. Also, probably tests will be (or have been) done to determine the status of her brain function on a regular basis. If she is only breathing because the ventilator is breathing for her she is not really alive….there can also be permanent damage done if a ventilator is left on too long. This is a very tough situation for her family and I wouldn’t want to be in this position. Sadly, many of us will be someday.
I should have added that with a person that is elderly it is an easier decision but with a young person like Bobbi, that means that she would normally have a healthy, strong heart and it may take longer to determine if life really exists. Joan Rivers was technically dead when she was put on a ventilator but died shortly after it was turned off. Some people live on for awhile if they have strong hearts. Some in the medical field believe that brain death signals the end of life but families don’t always see it that way I had patient’s families that kept saying, “But he/she is breathing…they are alive”. The truth was that they had absolutely no brain function which we considered technically dead..Brain versus heart…….which signifys the end of life?
M.Ulrich , your assessment is correct .
They have enough money to keep her on the machine until the power of prayer starts working. If that’s months to years, they can afford it.
Regardless of whether or not they have enough money until the power of prayer starts working, I think it will come down to how BB defines “quality of life”.
If there is no brain activity I do believe that BB will make the difficult decision to take his daughter off life support versus moving her to a care home and “live” on life support. Yes I do think BB will decide to do it on the 11th since that is the anniversary date of Whitney passing, and it will give BK a lot of time to prove all the doctors wrong.
Both the Brown and Houston families are in my thoughts and prayers during this very difficult time.
Most people don’t see prayer as a direct line to God to ask for things. Prayer is about accepting Gods will and being grateful and appreciative of God’s blessings. He’s not Santa in the sky or a terrorist to be negotiated with.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Prayer works for those who have enough money to wait for it? Is Strategic Patience God’s miracle plan? If we are counting on God’s will and not science, than the machines do not matter,turn them off and leave it in God’s hands. I do not think people die because someone did not pray long or hard enough.
My grandmother has a neighbor who has a daughter that works at the first hospital the girl was in. Third hand gossip is the girl is and was brain dead upon arrival. My grandmother is a gossip though, but I know as a mom, I couldn’t imagine making that decision to remove support.
Trustworthy gossip like that is gossip you can trust and should totally be repeated a thousand times.
Her grandmother should be careful repeating gossip given to her by Her granddaughter who may have had access to BK. Granny’s gossip could cost the granddaughter her job. HIPPA laws and all that.
Or how ever that twisted explanation went. Grandmothers, neighbors, daughters whatever.
If the case was that she was brain dead on arrival then we wouldn’t be on this forum right now. I highly doubt that she was brain dead and they got her heart to respond after supposely being head submerged under water for 5 or more minutes. Who has eeg studies immediately upon arriving to the E.R?
The heart pumping has nothing to do with being brain dead. She drowned and the brain damage was irreversible.
Gross. Shame on her and shame on that tv station!
This is beyond sad. Her dad contributed to making her life a mess, now he’s making her death a mess. He might even be comprising the case to find out what caused her to drown in the first place by delaying the inevitable.
Nick and Max are definitely covering something up. I wonder if this is domestic violence, did Kristina want to move on without Nick and he snapped. Bobby Brown is an idiot. I’m sorry for his grief but if her spirit or soul is already in Heaven, then lay her to rest. Some people in comas are not brain dead, they may wake up. If she is brain dead, she’s dead. She was dead when they took her out of the tub. They really don’t know how long she was in water, they know it was more than 3 minutes. An autopsy could tell for sure.
Tamara, I’ve been following the story since it hit the news. You are on point. I love your comments. It seems I can see your facial expression and I have a big smile for some of your responses. I check all over the web getting info on this story and I find that your site keeps up with the facts very well Great job!
A prayer vigil is okay, pray they find out what happened to Kristina, pray that if she is already in heaven that the family will FINALLY give her peace and lay her to rest, pray that if this is foul play that there is justice for Kristina. Pray that if its God’s Will that she miraculously awakens then so be it. Kristina is an heiress and she should have had more love and protection.
My very much loved cat stopped eating. I thought he had a tooth problem. Took him to the vet and was told he had liver cancer. They said I could take him home for a few days if I wished. I loved that cat and refused to let him suffer another moment so I held him as they put him down. I am not comparing BK to a cat, I am just saying it is sad that she is not given the dignity to pass on. She is not coming back no matter how many prayers are said. It is very sad to lose anyone in this way but she is already gone and keeping her on the vent is for the family, not the patient.
But…. You totally just compared Bobbi Kristina to your cat.
No I did not. I said that we are humane and put down our pets when they are too ill to survive, well, at least I do. Please learn to read.
I totally read it.
I got what you meant, Superfly, and I could relate to that feeling when you put a beloved pet down.
Having made this decision for my daughter 16 months ago, I can remember that I had to come to realization that my hesitancy to remove life support had everything to do with the fact that I was keeping her on the vent for ME! I could touch her, talk to her, etc. It is a horrible thing to have to admit that to yourself. I hope & pray that this is where Bobby Brown is at present. Each of us has a different timetable for how we process & react to this type of horror. Hopefully, once he is able to realize this he will find some measure of comfort.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
My God bless her and heal her. AND BLESS THE FAMILY. LOVE IS LIFE. POBP
There is nothing funnier than a family that put themselves on Reality TV more than a dozen times asking for privacy. (Drug use and all) I just don’t get that. NOW you want privacy. Sorry, that door has closed and you put your shit on the doorstep for everyone to see!
LOVE YOU WHOMEVER YOU ARE..YOU SAID MORE THAN A MOUTHFUL..LIKE MOTHER, LIKE……………………………..
came the last night
of sadness,
and it was clear
she couldn’t go on…
I dont have kids but I can only imagine how hard it would be to remove my child. What is the little girl’s name who was declared brain dead; it happened from getting her tonsils out? She is still on life support a year later.
For the injuries, maybe from CPR?
Then again, we still dont know how the heck this poor girl got this way.
I have no idea why my comment is up thread.
How you doing Tamara? You seem stressed.
No matter what people think of him Bobby Brown is a dad in serious pain. He will make the difficult decision when he is ready to remove life support and release his baby girl.
Do the research into life support, and I believe every person who loves BK would conclude that we should respect the Doctors decision about what hope is for BK now. She is in God’s hands and He knows what’s best for her. Trust the one who created her. Let her go so she can rest in peace..
I’m praying for Bobbi Kristina,and I have no use to entertain the negative things that are being said,
Mr.Bobby Brown whatever you do DO NOT PULL THE PLUG BECAUSE GOD IS NOT FINISH YET…
How much more time do you think God is going to need? Seems like God let her brain die and has had his say.
I pray for a recovery. But,the longer she is in a medically induced coma,chances are it does not look good. I also hope that Bobby Brown,does not decide to pull the plug on February the 11th. That would be the same date that Whitney Houston died 3 years ago. I find this whole situation very sad and heartbreaking. I truly believe that the boyfriend is behind all of this and to cover his tracks he tried to drown her in the bathtub. If the doctors and finding bruises around her mouth and head well that should be enough proof right there. But I hope they are not deciding to pull the plug on Wednesday February the 11th. That would be heartbreaking for Whitney Houston’s mother Cissy.
So glad they are not taking her off life support. A known fact she needs at least 1 year before anyone can make this decision or more. I have seen 4 people come back after unconscious and Dr’s saying brain dead with proof of x-rays .It is God’s choice not ours.
God is going to have to give her a new brain. Does he need a the breathing machine for that? What is God waiting on?
The fuck you talking about one year?
You must be really good at praying. Can you pray so I win the lottery?
The frost killed one of my favorite outdoor plants. Can we start a prayer chain to bring it back to life? How about my mom? Would this prayer thing work on her?
I thought the whole Lazarus thing was a one time thing. And he was only dead for 3 or 4 days. Since then, I’m pretty sure no one has been resurrected by God. Now doctors have done it, but this is not one of those cases.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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To comment on your post Tamara, I’m surprised the “publicist” isn’t good ol’ Jonathan Jaxson.
regarding the young girl who is brain dead from the tonsillectomya year ago, footage has been released showing her responsive and moving her arm and leg on command
According to her mother who has vowed to keep her on life support as long as she (the mother) has a heart beat. She is trying to get her death certificate reversed. She’s delusional and thinks her kid is going to “wake up” one day.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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That video shows a dead girl whose insane mother is timing her requests for the dead daughter to move a limb with the involuntary tics she was already having. God doesn’t need machines, God IS the machine.
dead = dead
She moved her arm and leg? What a LIFE!
I hope there has been no foul play. Wondering what the marks on her face were and could they be from her husband performing CPR?
Poor little girl. Very sad.
Let her die, if that’s what she wants
I imagine that is the hardest decision anyone has to make, in essence killing your loved one. I’ll continue to pray for a miracle so he doesn’t have to make that decision.
You’re missing the point that the person is already dead. There is no killing involved.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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you can’t kill someone who for all intents and purposes is dead.
I just hope that everyone on here has let their families know what they would want in this type of situation. My whole family knows my wishes and vice versa. If necessary, do so legally (like if you’re afraid that they wouldn’t honor your wishes). That way no one has to go through what Bobby Brown is. I highly doubt they ever had that conversation.
Riley, please accept this menopausal pass. Go forth and sin no more.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I wonder if phedra will try to insert herself into this ? So sad
Gross. I’m sure she will, O.O. Maybe she can pretend she’s their lawyer and funeral director. Wave her prayer hanky and giant dunkey butt.
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Bobby brown abused drugs, alcohol and his wife for many years. How is it a shock his daughter is in the same situation as her mother. I’m sensing guilt on his part. Let her die already.