UPDATED: Police are investigating Nick because of injuries to Bobbi Kristina’s mouth that appear to have occurred prior to her downing. Also, Nick was supposed to be in court on traffic today, 2/8/15 but it was rescheduled due to the other circumstances.
I knew there was something crazy about Nick Gordon’s lack of a statement about his “wife” Bobbi Kristina Brown. It just didn’t make any sense to me. The only pictures I have seen of Nick were on Daily Mail last Sunday. His demeanor seemed inappropriate for the situation. He was seen smiling and talking to some female outside North Fulton Hospital. He has not been seen at Emory. TMZ is now reporting he is the focus of a criminal investigation into Bobbi Kristina’s death. The TMZ report is below.
In other news today, Cissy Houston has arrived to the hospital looking frail and distraught. Bobby Brown is still reported to be against removing life support and hoping and praying for a miracle.
Also, a group of about twenty people including family and friends celebrated Bobby Browns birthday at the bar in W hotel in Atlanta last night where the Brown family is staying and Bobby Brown’s older sister got into a physical confrontation with her adult son. Apparently, there was a verbal argument regarding valet parking which escalated when the son called his mother a crackhead. She allegedly responded by slicing the son’s face with a broken glass and cracking a bottle over his head. Cops were called by hotel security. The son drove himself to the hospital and everyone dispersed before cops arrived. No one was arrested.
Just another day in this tragic story.
There is an active criminal investigation underway in Georgia in the Bobbi Kristina case … it centers on possible foul play and the target is her boyfriend … TMZ has learned.
Law enforcement sources tell us … Bobbi Kristina had certain injuries that have piqued their interest. We do not know the nature of the injuries. Multiple sources tell TMZ there is a history of violence between Bobbi Kristina and boyfriend Nick Gordon.
We’re told police are looking into a possible altercation more than an hour before Bobbi Kristina was found submerged in a bathtub.
We’re told Max Lomas — the friend who discovered Bobbi Kristina in the tub — arrived at around 9 AM last Saturday. He says he hung out with Nick but did not see Bobbi Kristina. He was told she was in the bedroom. Nick wandered away and Max says he didn’t pay attention to his whereabouts.
The cable guy showed sometime after 10 AM and Max says he let him in — Nick was nowhere to be seen. The cable guy said he needed access to the bedroom so Max let him in and discovered Bobbi Kristina in the tub. He screamed for Nick, who ran in and administered CPR.
We’re told Max claims Nick allegedly cleaned up the home and removed blood stains.
Cops interviewed both Max and Nick and they want to debrief Max again, but our law enforcement sources say Max’s lawyer insisted on immunity before he spoke again. We’re told as of Friday morning Max hadn’t gotten immunity or talked to cops.
Our sources say Nick Gordon has also lawyered up.
Tamara Tattles has reached out to lawyers related to the case and is waiting a response.
She passed?
No, sorry. It will eventually be a death but technically is not yet. I reworded the title. Thanks for pointing that out. Did not mean to mislead.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Can’t these people behave while one of their own is near death? No wonder Bobbi Kristina had so many problems. First living with addicted parents, than the death of her mother and a family that fights over ridiculous crap and a boyfriend who may or may not have harmed her? How could she ever have had a chance at a normal life?
All I can say is its sad and a mess. It’ll take a long, long time before we learn any facts.
Here we go with another trial…
I sounds like the entire family circle needs some serious help. I understand that it was his birthday & all, but to celebrate at a bar and then get in fights when your child is on life support and you need to make that choice?!? I HAD to make that decision for my son, believe me, there was no way we could have celebrated anything back then. Later years I had to remove my mother from life support and she was well into her 90’s had lived a good life, but still, that was a very serious solemn time. Then to fight at a bar when your kid is dying is just surreal to me. Maybe now that whole family will seek help?!?
So sorry for your losses. I can’t imagine the pain of losing a child.
I wonder if Bobby Brown even attended this celebration? Sounds more like a bunch of family yay-hoos looking for an excuse to party!
He was there. It wasn’t so much of a celebration as a low key birthday acknowledgement. And I assume a stress reliever after the grueling hospital vigil. When my sister died, people who don’t really even drink were at her house looking for a drink. It’s very stressful.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m wondering the same thing. Surely Bobby didn’t go…please tell me he wasn’t there!
Why are you assuming they were partying? If anyone was from out of town they had to eat and I doubt Bobbi was doing birthday shots. The day was depressing enough, forcing yourself at the least to just recognize a birthday and all be together probably after they were kicked out when visiting hours ended, isn’t a terrible thing. They probably talked about Bobbi Kristina and all weighed in on what to do. Don’t twist what you heard into your lowest expectations.
However, who the hell smashes a bottle on her own damn son’s head?
I think it’s probably just being called a “party”, like TT said, probably a get-together because the family was all there and it happened to be his birthday. And yeah, maybe the son was messed up, maybe they all were; I’m guessing that they were sad-drinkijg, not like partying.
I don’t think anyone called it a party. The family returned to the hotel for the night. Went to the bar. It’s was Bobby’s Birthday. I don’t understand the confusion. There were no paper hats or birthday cakes or singing waiters. SMH.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think she stated that Bobby’s SISTER got into a fight with HER SON. Not Bobby Brown.
I’m so sorry you had to face those horrible decisions.
What once was thought a suicide related to drug use might now be a full on homicide. I can’t turn away!
Totally acceptable, non-crackhead response to a verbal insult.
Poor Bobby Kristina never stood a chance.
I was going to say the same thing. She rather proved her son’s point, didn’t she?
Thanks TT
Have they interviewed the cable man who was ushered into the bedroom? That would be the most logical witness, I doubt that it is a homicide but it would be wrong to underestimate the stupid in this situation.
Actually, the “unusual injuries” could totally lead to homicide. What if her wrists were bruised? What if there is signs of blunt force trauma to the head? Clearly, the police suspect foul play. What if her toxicology screen comes back clean?
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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IMO, everything seemed fishy about the circumstances surrounding this situation from the start — I’m skeptical by nature, but the fact that she was found in such similar circumstances as her mother irked me (more than just how tragic it was). Of course it is possible that IF Bobbi Kristina did commit suicide she would want to “go out” just like her mom, but it seemed too pat — like what someone staging a suicide to cover up a murder would think to do. So yeah, even though we don’t know squat right now as the police haven’t released much info, I would totally buy murder.
I was thinking she had a black eye or a gash on her head.
A gash on her head could be explained by falling in the bathtub. My guess is the injuries are something in consistent with a fall like bruised wrists or something indicating she was restrained in some way…
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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One of the most disturbing things is her being found face down in the bathtub. Most adults wont be face down without help, I would think. Maybe on their side, or face up under the water, but face down is suspect, in my unprofessional opinion. Sorry if that’s already been stated, I’m trying to keep up 🙂
I don’t find the face down thing too unusual. When kids drown in bathtubs the are found face down. BK was a tiny little thing. If she was in there long enough to float she could have easily turned. Also if she had a seizure (which she has had before) she would have turned.
I don’t think the fact she was upside down is a major clue. I’d be interested in how big the bathtub was.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I thought I read she was kneeling and face down in the tub? I might be wrong. It’s hard to keep track.
Maybe marks around the neck.
That would be pretty damning.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Allison, that was Whitney. IIRC she was leaning over the edge of the tub and fell in. Bobbi was found face down in the tub.
Thank you Tamara-it’s all too close for comfort and easily confused 🙁
I can understand why a drug user would hide drugs but . . . . clean-up the blood? And . . . why would Max escort a cable guy into Bobbi’s bedroom without knowing first that she was awake and dressed? Something is very wrong here . . . . .
he could have knocked a while then gone in after getting no reply, and then gone in after getting no reply.could have gotten worried or thought she wasn’t in there.
I just really don’t think it’s a homicide, I hope not a suicide, even. I don’t know, but it just seems unlikely and it’s a sensational story right now, but I guess I just really don’t think he did it. I could be wrong.
is it any wonder the girl was a mess. so freakin sad to have that much talent in a family and be so damn fucked up. makes me sick, that girl never had a chance of a normal life
I think that nick and or max murdered her and didn’t expect the cable guy to come. Cable guy interrupted their plan. The story always seemed off. Why murder and then perform CPR and call 911?
So you don’t look guilty? The story is still off!
I believe the cable guy was there for a scheduled visit. He was hooking up TVs and needed to get to the one in the bedroom. Max went in to let her know and that is when he found her.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Cable guys usually call when they’re on their way. At least, that’s been my experience. Max and Nick had to know he was coming!
They had to call 911 and perform CPR. The cable guy was there!
Then why would Max allow him to enter the room where her body was and the crime appears to have taken place?
He’d allow Max to enter if it was an “accident”. If something happened and he wanted to make it look like an accidental drowning, better to have someone else find her so he can pretend he had no idea.
Also, imagine how it would look when everyone found out she was dead and then the cable man tells the police that they wouldn’t let him into the bedroom for some reason?
What a fucked up family! I’m pissed! Why in the world would anyone go out to celebrate their birthday when your daughter is in a coma and brain dead? What type of people are these? And there might have been foul play? Birthday get together? Really? Fight with bottles broken over heads and slicing going on? What the fuck? DID THIS POOR GIRL EVER STAND A CHANCE?
Maybe it was a place for everyone to gather, instead of the hospital cafeteria.
Yes that would be true but, “about twenty people including family and friends celebrated Bobby Browns birthday at the bar in W hotel” makes me think it was slightly more than a quite dinner. Never mind the altercation.
Fine. You’re right. It’s terrible for family to gather in a difficult time and acknowledge a birthday. They should have just not even acknowledged the birthday. All twenty of them should have just laid down on the floor in ICU all night and sobbed.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Exactly. I don’t see the big deal. They were in the bar of the hotel where they are staying. It’s a big group. Where did you want them to unwind?
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Ok so I’m judgemental! If it was me, I could care less about my birthday. I will probably have another one. BK won’t. What I’m really outraged about is a friggin’ fight in public? Really? Calling your mother “a crackhead” seems to suggest a drug issue. So Bobby (in the past), Whitney, Whitney’s brother, Bobby’s sister, allegedly some cousins, BK herself have had drug issues? The person BK decided to hold close to herself is her brother/boyfriend is allegedly under investigation in her accident/suicide/murder (undetermined at this point)? Repeat: Did this girl stand a chance?
Sorry! I meant to post my comment further down.
No one said they were whooping it up or anything like that. I’m sure it was very far from an enjoyable, carefree birthday party.
Bobby’s nephew stated they were attending a “party for Bobby’s 46th birthday” but more than likely this was a situation where the family who has been gathered around BK needed to eat & because it was Bobbi’s birthday the nephew called it a “party”. I highly doubt ANY family would be planning & attending a “party” during this tragedy. It was an unfortunate choice of words by a young man.
ETA: The reception that takes places after a funeral, which commonly includes a meal & drinks is known as a “repast” but I’m sure many wrongly call it a “party”.
Judgmental much? So, let’s see…in the future, if we are EVER dealing with a gut-wrenching pain, we should remember that we are NOT allowed to try to unwind for a minute, get something other than bad hospital food and coffee in our system, or even stop to clear our heads. We should do absolutely nothing other than let this horrible tragedy consume us down to our very core. Because of course, to do so otherwise, would be upsetting to some random individual that knows absolutely nothing about what is happening other than what she chooses to extrapolate from bits and pieces of news stories. Why don’t you dial down the histrionics and stop judging someone you don’t know a STITCH about and have some compassion for the grief that Bobby Brown and the rest of that family is surely feeling. By the way, he is no more responsible for the actions of his sister and her son than he is for your hysterics! A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, isn’t it, Angel?
People grieve in their own ways. Many people deal w stress by drinking or drugs. I can say for sure that when my dad was dying in hospital we needed to eat so after visiting we would go eat& drink. Not saying we got wasted & in bar brawls but people have to remember the differences in people. The Brown family has many issues already so think this is just adding more stress to an already stressful situation … I think they whatever they do they will be judged..
Yep, what MeSoCrazy said.
And also the part that they’ll be judge no matter what they do. And even if her “husband?” didn’t do a thing, he’s going to be judged and vilified.
In light of the new information that there were unexplained marks on her body…
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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The doctors probably told them to go back to the hotel to eat, rest, relax, since there were no changes, and nothing they can do. The extended family were all probably stating at the same motel, and went to wind down & talk about the situation. I don’t see nothing wrong with saying “Happy Birthday” in the midst of all the turmoil they are going through. Although I’m not a drinker, some people need a drink to cope, and I personally don’t feel we should judge. Now…the sister shouldn’t of acted out, that was fucked up.
For many of us it is never a good idea to drink when depressed or stressed, but for others, they can cut it off at a healthy amount and use it as a means to help induce sleep or kind of dull the anxiety for the moment. But seriously if people got too drunk and upset and had dramatic arguments, who cares? I’m not a wasp, so I know if my family was dealing with this kind of tragedy the majority wouldn’t be able to stay composed at all times.
I would like to say thank u TT for your measured reporting on this unfortunate situation. Unlike a lot of other sites your reports are very levelled and reflects a lot of my own personal ‘What Ifs’ towards this rolling mystery
I will keep my opinions regarding BKB brief as I grew up in a Single Mom/Tough Love home so personal responsibility is very much 1st on my radar. My Prayers go out to her and her loved ones.
I’m not sure abt your rules on reporting abt other blogs but I think I’m safe as u have posted credited Blind Items from this site, It’s been reported that Nick would assault BKB on the regular, even causing broken bones. It was forseen last yr that the possibility of him killing her was VERY likely.
I read your post last night posing the question of the TOTAL disappearance act of NG. It was like DING DING DING, I’m not the only one with a conspiratorial mind. Like he’s sooooo stupid, reckless etc to post pics of himself with guns while threatening someone, how in hell he’s gone radio dark now???? It’s clear he soughts approval from ppl on social media by his shenanigans, so now when he can finally be ‘the man’ and being exposed to millions of ppl on the world stage, he’s a hermit?????
The ONLY thing is that I didn’t think he was smart enough resist the urge by saying something incriminating or better yet LISTEN to the advice of someone else who’s CLEARLY guiding him
WOW! What a turn of events ! Thanks TT as always your the best with the update. 🙂
Not too surprised here. Saw I guess Max’s lawyer being interviewed and knew something was up. I thought it was just drugs that they were hiding- it sounds though maybe like shit went down between Nick and BK & Nick might then have called his boys to help clean up but then a change of heart or thinking making it look like she tried to commit suicide. Or they were all over there doing drugs already and shit went down that Nick thought his boys would help cover, like just that he might’ve hit her. Phone records will prove whatever unless they were all at the house- they’d have no reason to test or call if they were all there. But why not cancel the cable guy or just not let him in if something ratchet was going down in there? And if Nick is at the house, how does one of those guys walk into her BEDROOM and BATHROOM but not her husband, fake husband? Does that remotely make sense? I don’t know they’ll ever get the truth but that’s the company she chose sadly to keep. But something happened, and even if there’s a text supposedly from BK talking suicide, that might not be her who wrote it!
If this is truly a crime scene, the only logical reason to let the cable man inside is to use him as a pawn to discover her body. Poor guy! Of course, tomorrow, we may find that he wasn’t there to hook-up cable afterall.
missy, did you actually see a video interview of Maxi’s attorney? Was it a male or a female. I believe he has a new lawyer. If you have a link to a video, could you email tamaratattles at gmail? thanks.
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I’m pretty sure I saw it yesterday on E news, but I don’t have the link. An attractive, blonde attorney with a lot of makeup gave the interview and gave that version of events- that’s how I heard about the cable guy, etc yesterday. Sorry, I don’t recollect her name, but I’m nearly positive it was from E news. Whether she is the original attorney, I don’t know. I was surprised she gave such a detailed account, so maybe she is no longer the lawyer. Usually, attorneys say how their client is fully cooperating- period, end of story. She gave details- very unusual. I think she represented the white guy, Max, because she said maybe a third guy fled.
Missy, you’re not talking about last night on Nancy Graces are you? Please don’t tell me you consider her attractive?
No. She’s talking about my attorney. Who is very attractive. But her husband is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS. 🙂 And they are both very good attorneys and both VERY nice, and make you feel like they like you and they care and are very down to earth.
It’s sickening really. 🙂
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thanks. I know that attorney. She’s the best on in Atlanta. I know this because she is my attorney. 🙂
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh god your post just made me think of something horrible. What if he was beating her and it went to far? She hit her head and he staged the bath just like her mom.
I’ve thought of the bathtub being staged thing myself.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Lol. It might be the same woman- saw her on E news I believe. Well, compared to most lawyers, I thought she was pretty but too much makeup! My thought was it might be just like what you said- like a Natalie Wood scenario- a beat down staged to look like a drowning. Again, I’m saying that, not the lawyer. Sorry for any confusion. And I’ll have to look at that lawyer again- maybe she is ratchet! Lol.
She’s not ratchet. She’s lovely and also my personal attorney.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Why would MAX answer the door. Its not his house. Why didn’t Nick answer the door?
Gemini, seems like Nick might have his hands full with some housekeeping duties and didn’t have time to answer the door.
Hannah, I don’t know where you are getting your misinformation, but you are muddying the waters here.
Nick was there to let the cable/security guy in. Max went to tell Krissi a man was there and would be working on the security system. She was in the bathroom so he knocked and got no answer and opened the door, found her and screamed for nick while pulling her out of the water. Nick performed CPR (I have a problem with this part of the story, I don’t see Nick being CPR certified) while Max called police. There was no clean up.
That is the official story from Max’s attorney.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Nick answered the door for the cable guy. He was there not for cable but for a problems with the security system. Max went to the bedroom to let Krissi know the guy needed in the room. He knocked on the bathroom door and got no answer so he opened the door, still no answer and he found her.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT I do have a question about this. You said Nick was there and answered the door to the cable guy in a post on Feb. 6th at 10:13 p.m. and he was there for a scheduled visit to hook up tvs then changed on Feb. 6th at 11:22p.m. to say that I was muddying the waters and that it was now a cable/security guy who was there working on the security system. I did not notice anywhere that you had given that info regarding the change in purpose of the cable/security guy and the reason for the visit to the house. Maybe that’s where I got confused. My question now is if Nick was available to answer the door for the cable/security guy, why did he as Bobbi Kristina’s husband/brother not go her room to let her know the man needed to enter her room? Why was Max sent to do that? I know they were friends an all but sounds a bit odd to me. Seems like Nick might have yelled to Nick that BK wasn’t answering the door like he screamed when he found her.
I do not know why Max let the security guy in, or why he went to the bedroom to tell her the security guy needed in the bedroom.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I can offer a possible explanation why Max answered the door. Now please, no one jump on me for suggesting this, it’s just a possibility. I dont even know about their drug use but since Max was a dealer…..
People that do drugs together are close. They see each other in vulnerable states and a unique bond is formed. I don’t see anything unusual about Max letting someone in the front door if this was their relationship.
Please note that I said “if”. It’s just an idea.
Sending Max to go let her know doesnt strike me as odd at all. They were all good friends, maybe Max was closer to the room, maybe Nick was still with the cable guy talking, there are several scenarios in which it would make sense to me that Max went to rouse her. Especially if Nick knew good and well for soooome reason she wasnt getting up, having Ma “find” her betters his story.
I have not posted in a long while, but I felt the need to on this one.
From when I first read here about this I thought somehow it would be more than an overdose/(attempted)suicide., and although that friend of theirs, Max, was there, I don’t think he was involved.
I also think that the bday dinner, in itself was not a horrible thing. It turned into a hot mess, but I honestly don’t see anything wrong in a dinner after grueling, sad, stressful days at a hospital.
if she was murdered, i can see bobby killing him and who’d blame him?. this is so sad 🙁
Really? Dear lord. You wouldn’t blame a murderer for murdering?
No. America would give them a reality television show.
i have 3 children and i’d drop a mofo dead if they harmed any one of them.
Especially if they killed your kid. Allegedly. Hypothetically.
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I keep thinking of Bobby Brown. No matter how you view him, Whitney was a woman he loved and was married to for many years, and Bobbi Kristina was a product of that love. So very sad and tragic…that these two women, the center of his Universe for years, one is dead, and the other is on life support.
I also recall that at Whitney’s funeral, her family had no place for Krissy’s half sisters & brothers to sit, so he exited the Church upset for his children. I would be too. Now…I wonder if he will extend the same courtesy to the Houston’s. Krissy said the only people she felt close enough to talk to about her mothers death was Nick & her cousin on her fathers side.
wow TT..! Do you know if Cissy Houston was not able to travel til today? It seemed strange to me that she didn’t arrive til today.
She’s 81 so I am sure they had her wait hoping for an improvement. It makes me think the Houston family has accepted the situation that Bobby Brown has not.
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Maybe. I kind of had the feeling that the birthday dinner was after they had all come together to make the decision to end life support. Could explain the high state of tension, especially if everyone wasn’t on the same page.
Unless Crissy Houston had a private plane, travelers with medical problems are difficult to book and require documentation.
I believe tyler perry had his private plane or jet take bobby and family.
oops should have read further. But yes that was Bobby and fam from LA. I don’t know if he sent his plane for Cissy or not but it would not surprise me.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Speaking of private planes, I don’t think I ever told y’all but Tyler Perry was in LA heading back to ATL on his private plane on the Saturday this all happened. He was friends with Whitney. He immediately called Bobby Brown and flew Bobby his wife, and Bobby’s adult daughter to ATL on his plane. That was a class act.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT – thank you for everything you do. I love reading your posts!
I knew when I heard that excerpt from the 911 call & there was specific mention of an earlier domestic altercation, that it had far more to do with this whole situation then anyone initially gave it credit to! And was what I believed was keeping Nick so radio silent.
Finally, more details – A MESS.
On a sidenote, remember when Bobbi “fell asleep” in a tub the day before Whitney’s heart attack/overdose/drowning? Of course, falling asleep in a tub is not the same thing as drowning in one three years later.
When I first laid eyes on Whitney, she was 16 and singing in a nightclub (with Cissy) – we were both under the legal drinking age. Gorgeous girl – so talented and fresh. At that particular time, I would have never dreamed that her future would be so dark…..
Ok BK and Nick were said to be estranged for about a week prior to the “drowning”. In the above statement it says Max arrived around 9:00 a.m. so that means Nick was there and not staying with Max as stated earlier right? I was under the impression Nick was not in the condo the night before and came to check on BK after a phone call or a text from her. This is all confusing. If Max was in the house from 9:00 till after 10:00 when the 911 call went in and hadn’t seen BK, then how was it determined how long she was without oxygen for 4-10 minutes. If Max is telling the truth, Nick disposed of drugs and cleaned up the bloody scene for over an hour. Why would Max be at that house that early in the morning if Nick had not called him to help him clean up a crime scene and try to make it appear to be a suicide or accident?
Hannah. Nothing in this comment is factual. And I am too tired to go point by point.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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HOLD up! I want to clarify that lawyer did NOT say the part about things happening in the house or staging the bathtub- those are my thoughts. I re-read my post. What that lawyer actually said was about the timing the boys were there, who let the cable dude in, she mentioned the possibility of a third dude. Usually lawyers never get so detailed. The other part of my post was my thoughts of what could’ve happened- so I’m clear. The lawyer didn’t say he hit her or killed her or that those guys helped clean up- I said that.
His own lawyer said he killed her on tv?????
WTF are you talking about? Please learn to read. Or at least stop making comments that can have you sued.
I just joking because the other commenter clarified it so well but I’ll stop
Wow!! Right after this happened, I told my sister that I bet the husband/ brother/ boyfriend/ what ever he is.. Did this to her, and staged it to look like suicide thinking he would get all the money. Wouldn’t suprise me that this had been his plan for quite sometime. I think he was upset that HE was not left money in will since he was “raised” by Whitney, so he decided he would get his share one way or another. So he became her BF, then I suppose he was not seeing all the money he wanted to see. So what better way than stage a wedding then suicide staged to mimic Mommas death right at the time Whitney passed. Hmmm
Or just MAYBE I watch too much ID TV.
Snapped!!
But honestly, very sad situation. The browns and the Houston’s are all in my prayers!
BK and Nick were never married. Money probably going to Pat, executor, or Cissy. Or maybe Bobby Brown since he’s her closest blood relative.
Nope. If Krissi dies before the trust is paid off, the remainder is split between Cissy and Whitney’s two brothers.
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The problem with your motive is the new rumor that he was not actually married to her. I’m not sure I believe they were not really married. But it sure seems like Bobby is calling the shots on her healthcare.
OH and I forgot to mention the fourth person in the house was Max’s girlfriend. They were apparently couples friends. I think the whole thing about Bobbi and Nick being separated may have been exaggerated.
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It’s all so tragic, and very sad!
I loved Whitney as millions did. It’s so terrible the way things have turned out for this family. And I hope that my gut feelings are wrong about nick. I hope it was accidental. And I pray she would recover, but I don’t think that is possible. Especially with report of 30 mins or so with no o2. Very sad!
Thank you TT for all the strait up reports!! I’m with most others, this is only place I come for updates.
I wonder if BB will keep KB hooked up to life support until ALL the trust money is inherited by her (kind of like that Terry S girl was on life support for years in Florida) …..after all it appears Whitney did not have a provision in the will for that outcome (i.e. BK being in a coma or medically incapacitated during the time she ages into receiving the full trust) – which could mean BB would inherit ALL her money and future royalties – as long as he keeps her hooked up to life support and she continues to age……… heck even if BK dies within the next few days BB stands to inherit 10% of the royalties and whatever is left from the approximately 2 million BK already inherited…
Nothing in the above comment by 2CanPlay is remotely factually correct or even feasible.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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And repulsive.
Yeah, too much “Snapped” totally makes you start thinking that way. No judgement, it’s just that I’ve been there. No, your theory is a bit … out there. That’s an awful lot of plotting for many years on Nick’s part.
Nothing I wrote is beyond possibility. The reality is that Bobby could keep BK on life support for years if he chooses (presuming she hangs on for years like that Terry S women did in Florida, heck even Governor Bush got involved to try and stop the husband from removing life support) . Bottom line – BB does stand to inherit what REMAINS from the 10% that BK inherited when she turned 21 last year. That 10% includes 10% of Whitney H royalties ….. I agree that the 90% she has yet to inherit is slated to be split between her Grandmother and Whitney’s 2 brothers, if she dies before reaching the age to inherit another portion of the trust.
Not surprised. If he did this, he is the scum of the earth.
As far as the aunt cutting her son, this family is a mess and a half.
The level of dysfunction in this family reminds me of the Jacksons. Seems like having a God given talent like Whitney (and MJ) is a blessing and a curse. But I still pray for the Browns and the Houstons.
Thank you, Tamara. You’re pulling this into focus for us. But . . . . why did Nick clean-up the blood? Or, did he? Was there blood?
The part of the post regarding the blood is a quote from TMZ who is quoting Max. I have reached out to Max’s attorney for a statement. If I don’t get one by Monday, I might drop in on her with some fresh based cookies… lol.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hmmm…….
All of this gets me asking more and more questions. Like we’re there ccameras in around home.
Hmm good point. Perhaps the security was sabotaged and the security call was a cover?
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I can’t remember… when was that 911 call that when police showed up it appeared that no one was home?
January 23rd.
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My security company sends a technician (or the police) when there is “no response” to an alarm.
I was going to say the same thing, but they are saying it was a cable guy.
In Georgia the cable guys and the security system are handled by the same people.
For example Phaedra security continuously malfunctioned for awhile and “the cable company” showed up several times. You will see it on RHOA later this season. However. They will make it appear that Apollo had something to do with it. Just like they are going to edit things to make it appear Apollo was there when he should have been in prison and that the threatened Phaedra on that day when in reality he left for Tennessee a week earlier. His lateness to Prison was due to partying along the way.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I remember all that. Don’t even get me started on that bullshit! Insulting our intelligence like were a bunch of morons. Then again, we still watch so… lol
The police report from January 23rd could have been a false security alarm and not what was misreported earlier. It would explain why no one was home and the security system dude was called in the first place.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Now you’ve done it! Dropping those little tiny pieces of partially baked breadcrumbs for the coocoo birds to scamper in and scoop up! Laughter is good for the soul!
I hate to say that I have honestly thougt nick did this from the very beginning.
None of it adds up, and still doesn’t.
Where did he come from so many years ago that WH took him in? Is he a kid of a friend,relative, fan??
God forgive me if I am wrong, but I think he did it! I think a fight got out of control, something bad happened and he stages her in the bath to look like suicide. And if this is what happened
How sad this makes it even more. She apparently loved and trusted this guy.
Prayers for you BK and the family.
Sweet Jesus, the more that comes to light the sadder it becomes. As silly as it sounds, in the very beginning I hoped this would turn out to be a horrible accident. I had a friend in college who died from a fall in the tub & died from brain hemorrhage. I knew better but hoped for half a second that..just maybe. Seems with every passing day we see that it would have taken miracle for this poor child to make it to 30! Again, am so thankful for the straightforward no bs reporting here!
No word on what drugs or such was found in BK’s body? So strange..any trauma at all? I mean, did she just fall out? I guess the family is not saying? .I agree with the bad vibe about Nick..really hope I am wrong about my feeling about him or this situation seeming like a set up.
Her medical records cannot be released. But do to celeb status we will likely get an autopsy report.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I don’t know if it was just allegedly Nick. I also think the friend might be involved.
What ” friend “, especially a male, feels comfortable enough to open a females’. bathroom door? Was the water running? Did he hear something?
His story doesn’t make sense. He might just be trying to deflect suspicion away from him.
Please learn to read.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I will when you learn to be open to other people’s opinions.
If the friend’s girlfriend was there in the house, why would it be the man be the one to go to BK’s bedroom( and open the bathroom door ).
She could have been anywhere in the house. How was the friend so certain BK was even in her bedroom?
Don’t bother to leave one of your smart-ass answers.
Because Max has been Nick BFF since high school and was also good friends with Krissi?
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:46 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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How does it not make sense? If he had been pounding at the door, yelling, and got no answer, of course he’s gonna finally open the door! Especially while the cable/security company guy is standing right there. I don’t see how everyone is so appalled that this kid opened the bed/bathroom door.
Was she found naked or clothed in the tub? No one has stated anything about this. Was she actually taking a bath? Or did she intend to drown herself? Did she hit fall and hit her head? SO many questions…
People generally take their clothes off when bathing.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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People don’t generally drown themselves while taking a bath either. Of course, people bathe naked. But you don have to be naked for someone for someone to drown you.
Could this cable person actually be a security alarm technician responding to an alarm from the night before. I understand that 911 was called. Who called it? I don’t have an elaborate system but THIS is how my security system should work too. When my alarm is triggered, my company phones me within two minutes. If I answer the phone, they ask me a few questions. When I apologize and answer them correctly, they know it’s a false alarm. If I answer incorrectly or don’t answer the phone at all, they send the police. And . . . . logically, might send a technician the following day to find out what the f’k happened.
You don’t say.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT, you have the greatest responses.
Oh well I was hoping he was not involved. But at least they did an investigation. I never believed they investigated Whitney ‘ s death.
I don’ t know anything about drugs but if you were never really allowed to take a bath why would you start and everyone around her knew that and to get in really hot water at that just did not seem right. Leaving her body in that hotel room all those hours. I believe that was a case she was worth more dead than alive. I thank the Georgia authorities for a least investigating. Whether or not it sticks or if he will be arrested and this wasn’t a case of intimidating the witness (the young dude into saying something happened) I do believe anything is a possibility I just don’t think she was suicidal. How does TMZ get all the info first. It’s as if they are the legit news now use to be skeptical of what rag magazine said now they seem to be the go to people for all things celebrity related.
JUST HEARD, from Max’s attorney, that Max pulled Krissy out of the water, and Max performed CPR. Not Nick!!!!
Really? You just heard that?
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Sure did. Never read that info on this site.
Everyone was mad at Cissy when she did not want them together. The more she fought for BK the more determined BK was to have him. Same situation with her mother and Bobby.
Unfortunately for the women – well we see the end results.
Who’s right/whose wrong? Who did what when/why? At the end of the day these were matches made in HELL!
I just hope that BK can one day find her peace and comfort.
How is Bobby Brown the end result in Whitney’s death? First of all they had been divorced a number of years and second Bobby didn’t turn Whitney on to drugs, she had already been using well before she ever met Bobby, her own brother has taken responsibility of that accomplishment.
You are absolutely correct. I said the same truth another post.
Poor Bobby, he has the misfortune of looking like a thug apparently. Whitney is solely responsible for her own downfall and part of her attraction to Bobby Brown was their similar proclivities. He didn’t help, but Whitney chose him.
TT , High-Five to you!! I have so much respect for you as a blogger for putting out facts vs gossip! TY!! Like someone posted the other day, I now check out TT first for these stories . Many others just post BS to get clicks so I reallt appreciate all your hardwork ! Tamara , you are the best!!
I’ve watched enough Forensic Files — if Nick was involved in her death, I would guess there will be plenty of forensic clues, even if he did try to “clean up” the house. Even the smartest killers make mistakes. Between the eventual autopsy and the potential crime scene evidence, the real story will come out.
If Whitney really adopted this boy and had him getting drugs for her as an adolescent of course he’s going to be incredibly off as young adult. The sad thing about this is even if the two of them had incredible support and were engaging in active therapy it probably still would’ve taken them until their late twenties before they had fully processed the disfunction of their childhood and could find true peace. I don’t know what Nick did, because drowning or delaying 911 to hide drugs is unforgivable if he did it. If so, he needs to be in jail. I sympathize with his fucked up life, but I definitely hope this is being investigated.
He’s not her adopted son. I don’t believe for a minute that Whitney had him get drugs for her either.
Your beliefs don’t change a thing.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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so…are you saying TT that he DID get drugs for Whitney?
That is something that was widely covered many years ago when Whitney lived in ATL and Nick was living with her. So it seems likely. I don’t have any independent sources from that time, obviously. But it’s pretty much assumed to be fact. The story emerged again after Whitney’s death when Nick and Krissi became more than brother and sister…
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I could believe it. It’s not hard to believe that Whitney reached that low level. She said herself in her interview with Oprah shortly before she died that Bobby spit in her face among other degrading things. It does not surprise me the depths of self-destruction that a drug addict will go.
Ok “adopted”. She took him in as an adolescent and “adopted” a mother like role to him. I don’t know if she did or didn’t have him get her drugs, but addicts sometimes do despicable things to get high. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch, here was a kid that would never say no tbecause he wants to continue living with her.
Well, actually, neither do yours.
Your comment makes me wonder what Georgia law is regarding delaying aid? Maybe there is no law. I am just trying to understand why the friend won’t talk to the police any further without immunity. Unless he did something physically to.her or provided her with drugs and she overdosed (which it doesn’t sound like the friend did) why the immunity issue? Tampering with evidence or delaying aid is all I can come up with. Maybe it’s a lawyer thing – just playing it safe.
The friend was previously arrested on charges related to dealing drugs ….that being the case…it would not be odd or unusual that he supplied the drugs she was on at the time.
Max seems to be mostly a pot dealer. Only pot and Xanax were found during his arrests I believe. Pot, Xanax, alcohol could all lead to her passing out in the tub though. That said, who is that fucked up at 10 am?
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If you don’t hold a job, have kids, or any other reason to be coherent in the morning, I can see her being that fucked up at 10am. Depending on the drug of choice, some people could be up for days & then finally crash.
Eons ago in another life this was a common occurrence with ex in-laws as I was the one who watched their young child as they partied for days on end. It was a clusterfuck which often ended with violence & the police being called.
ETA: Many people would be shocked to find out who this child grew up to be. I was amazed (& overjoyed) to see she didn’t follow in her parent’s footsteps & instead she ended up becoming a celebrity (even starring on a TV show)!
The immunity thing may or may not be accurate.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Didn’t whitney die from mixing a lot of Xanax and alcohol?
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2012/04/04/final-autopsy-report-on-whitney-houston-released-today/
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Aren’t there allegations that that guy Max drugged and held his girlfriend hostage recently? Sorry if summertime mentioned that here. There are so many comments that I can’t keep up.
Still wondering if BB will keep BK hooked up to life support until ALL the trust money is inherited by her (kind of like that Terry S girl was on life support for years in Florida) …..after all it appears Whitney did not have a provision in the will for that outcome (i.e. BK being in a coma or medically incapacitated during the time she ages into receiving the full trust) – which could mean BB would inherit ALL her money and future royalties – as long as he keeps her hooked up to life support and she continues to age……… heck even if BK dies within the next few days BB stands to inherit 10% of the royalties and whatever is left from the approximately 2 million BK already inherited…
I am in no way a Bobby Brown fan, but I have to say, my heart breaks for him right now. If you look at his face in all the pictures taken of him since his daughter has been in the hospital, you can clearly see the toll of the stress he is feeling and overwhelming deep sadness and concern for his daughter….
If she were my child, I don’t think I could give up and take her off life support either. They say she looks like she is peacefully sleeping…. He is waiting for God to give him a miracle, and who are any of us to judge him for that unless we walk a mile in his shoes?
In regards Nick having anything to do with how she ended up face down in a bathtub, I disagree with the theory of some who speculate that he tried to kill her to get her money… I think if he did physically hurt her, it could have been be a physical altercation that went to far between and he got scared, panicked and then tried to stage the scene in the bathtub…… Just a theory…
Rusty, have you seen the few pictures of Nick standing pretty much alone outside the hospital last Sunday. He seems to be looking right at the cameras, and does not share the same pained facial expressions as the rest of the family members, particularly Bobby’s. I get the everyone grieves in different ways thing. But it seem like an odd look to me.
Also, IF it is true (and it appears to be as Bobby appears to be making the medical calls) that Nick and Bobbi Kris were not married, Nick would not necessarily stand to inherit anything in the event of her death. I suppose she could have drawn up a will when she got her first trust payment last March…IF she did and left everything to him, THAT will cause a huge family blowup. But barring that, I do think, as you do that there may have been a fight prior to the incident. But of course for now we are just speculating.
The fact that they seemed to be waiting for the cable man leads me to believe that Nick and possibly even Max and the girl spent the night there the preview Friday night. I doubt they would do their usual Friday night partying and stay out somewhere else if they had one of those cable appointments where you have to be there from like 8 until noon to let the dude in.
Makes me wonder about what the previous night was like.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Stop wondering. Thinking is not your strong suit.
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There might be a little overanalysis regarding who opened the door and why Max was there-I dont feel like Max had anything to do with it-if I were him I would lawyer up too, just based on the family and high profile nature of the events. I think Nick Gordon had a hand in this, I think he knows better than to run his mouth on social media or otherwise because he’s probably too busy shitting his pants over the pickle he’s gotten himself into. I hope that BB lets her go and go in peace, it sounds like he’s just keeping her shell alive, BK is long gone. Sad story.
Isn’t Tina Brown the same sister that took pics of Whitney’s bathroom and sold them to the National Enquirer? What trash. She still hasn’t changed. Makes you wonder whether Krissi would even have wanted her there. Like Bobby doesn’t have enough to worry about…
First time posting. Thank you TT for such clear information. I read somewhere a couple of days ago that Nick was at a nightclub the night before and came back to the house at 6 a.m. Any validity to that?
I have no confirmation of that.
I also read that Nick was at a club & didn’t return home until 6am but I’m finding the most credible info here on TT’s site. My husband actually came home the other day saying BK was pregnant & all sorts of other incorrect info so I set him straight with the info I get here. 😉
So let’s not bring information from other sites here. Let’s talk about the things I post here and the stuff y’all read other places THERE.
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Wow. This just keeps getting more and more twisted.
A long time ago, Bobby and she returned from a private cruise that was for a few days. When they arrived back she had a huge gash on her face from a fight they had by broken glass. The yacht crew said their cabin was completely trashed when they left.
I apologize if this is insensitive-but what if she is an organ donor? If she is on life support too long, the integrity of her organs will decrease and nothing will be viable. Sorry if that’s morbid or premature, but if something good can come out of this tragedy…
I thought about organ donation too. However, it would depend on the toxicology for a lot of organs. I don’t think the life support would have much of an effect. I’m not really sure.
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drug overdoses arent usually a huge impact on organ donation-if the liver is too damaged, obviously that isnt feasible but corneas, lungs, kidneys etc are still usually viable.
But you’re right on the length of time on life support-I was over-thinking. It matters when cardiac activity has stopped, then it’s the rush.
This all got my curiosity up and I decided to watch “The Houstons” .. It actually reminded me so much of the Jacksons reality show after Michael died.. Ive only seen the first 3 episodes so far and its very disturbing, they all act like they dont really know each other. Krissy’s aunt (Whitneys SIL) is trying to guide her and help her after her mother died but has zero effect. Even trying to drink underage right infront of her.. Any of my aunts would have belted me in the head and tossed the bottle out in the street!.. I assume thats the same aunt that has the “restraining order” against Nick? .. She also said in that episode that shes worried Krissy will end up dying like her mother.. Very unsettling watching it now and knowing whats going on..
the cameras will be outside of court on Monday….attempting to get a shot of Nick IF he shows up for his traffic court case….
It was Bobbi Kriss that had the court date.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Bobby Brown is trash, always was trash and now we his family is trash. How does a father celebrate his birthday with his trashy family when his daughter is at death’s door? BK will finally be with the one who has always loved her, put her first and never used her.
*sigh*
Wow, judge much? Maybe, possibly, his birthday, which I am sure is ruined for the rest of his life, was an opportunity for the family to be together? We werent there, we dont know, and why is he trash? How did he use her? So, only Whitney loved her daughter? Talk about kicking someone when they’re down. That man has done nothing in his life to deserve the pain that he is going through. I hope you never experience it and have people name calling and kicking you in the face at your lowest. Empathy. Try it some time.
Even though his daughter lay dying in the hospital he has to eat. It just so happened to be his birthday. Bobby’s nephew may have called it a “birthday party” but surely it was nothing more than a meal & drinks (with possibly someone ordering a cake). It was nothing more than an inappropriate use of the word “party” (that naturally some media outlets have chosen to run with to make it sound more salacious).
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICTURES OF BOBBY BROWN? HE WAS NOT CELEBRATING HIS BIRTHDAY. IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY. THEY WERE IN A BAR IN THEIR HOTEL AS A FAMILY.
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It’s amazing how many people think because Bobby slipped away to grab something to eat he’s now celebrating his birthday! Sadly I’ve been in this situation more than once (as I’m sure many others have) & it’s certainly NOT a party atmosphere. It can be an extremely delicate situation & I can see tempers flaring if someone says anything remotely disparaging.
How dare he leave his daughter’s bedside (after days) to try to get something in his stomach! Guess some would rather see him sick & rundown & laying in a hospital bed himself. SMDH.
I have a feeling you’re wasting your breath on this one. No matter what the facts, some people are determined to paint Bobby Brown as whooping it up on his birthday and having a grand old, care free, trashy time.
That’s the story the media used to sell, good girl, bad boy. But it has been established that Whitney did drugs before meeting Bobby. Even though they both struggled with addiction and had a tulmultuous relationship, I’m willing to bet they BOTH loved their daughter.
Asking for immunity tells me this Max committed a crime he’s not ready to admit to.
The plot thickens…
Yes, if the whole asking for immunity thing is true. None of his lawyers have said anything remotely like that. Only TMZ.
In other news, Max has changed attorneys FOR A THIRD TIME.
WTF is up with that? It’s unclear if they are dropping him or he is dropping them but both of his first two attorneys are very good.
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Tamara didn’t you say Max was using your attorney before he just changed again? Is she primarily a criminal attorney? If she wasn’t the one to drop him which would be my first guess, do you think maybe he has been courted by some media whore attorney who wants to be involved with all the drama?
The immunity, if true, could be something unrelated to any actual incident around BK. For example, he was delivering drugs to Nick and that was why he came over, he would want immunity from that especially given his current legal situatui
Not good.
ok. This is going to sound really morbid. But given the current circumstances it may have been the best had she died immediately. Why? Because in an autopsy they could have seen whether or not she was intentionally drowned or if it was an accident. Also they could have told whether bruising on her body was intentional or an accident. Now will be much more difficult to reconstruct what exactly happened in the bathtub because she’s lived several days. Has been handled by several medical professionals, including EMTs who could have also bruised body.
Second, I wonder if she had security cameras. I have seen reports where it was a home she use to share with her mother. Which I would think would have some kind of camera system.
So the cable guy needed to get into the bedroom but then how did Nick’s friend find her in the bathroom, what made him go into the bathroom in the first place? This tragedy has so many twists and turns. Looks like it is definitive they weren’t officially married.
It didn’t have so many twists and turns before people started restating crap incorrectly in comments…
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Pardon me, but to the people commenting about the audacity of Bobby and family ‘celebrating’ his birthday: people, I would be drinking too. It *was* his birthday, he had family around him that obviously would want to acknowledge his day just even to help get everyone’s mind off the heaviness of the situation; one has to eat during these times too; they’re staying in a hotel, where else would they go; and have any of you ever dealt with a end-of-life/funeral/wake? Like, think: Irish wake. Okay so maybe it’s not all pure and lovely and deep, but it takes the edge off…I say whatever gets you through, whatever helps you grieve.
So many judgey people!
I just don’t think he did it. But he is convicted in public opinion.
I think so as well Microop. Everyone has a vice or two. Thank you Tamara for keeping us informed about Bobbi. The whole mess is just so sad. Blessings and healing to the troubled.
I’ll start out by saying I’ve never tweeted in my life. I went to read Bobbi’s, and she seemed so happy and was working out. After reading her posts, its hard to believe she’d do drugs. She seems like a health conscious, God fearing young lady that had hope for the future. She sure loves Nick, brags on him constantly and always calls him her husband.
I’m wondering if they had a big fight, and as the young sometimes do, made what she thought was a feeble attempt at suicide. I wish there was some hope for this poor lovely lady, but sadly I don’t think there is. I’m already dreading this becoming nothing but a circus over money. : ( Bobbi deserves better than that.
I guess you missed the photo of her taking a hit from a bong…there are other examples of her drug use…but i will leave it there… yes she did drugs and drank alcohol in fact the alcohol use was excessive and filmed on camera for the reality show filmed after Whitney died
I did miss it, never watched any of their shows. At only 21 and the way she was raised, I’d give her a pass and would have hoped she’d find her way when she was older. Very few find out who they truly are at that age. I commented because I was surprised how fit she looked in her workout pictures, since I had read she did drugs and drank. Maybe she was in the process of turning her life around.