First of all, apologies for all of the moderated comments. I am working with someone from WordPress to resolve the problem while still insulating us from those we would rather not comment with. It’s been a process. I appreciate you being patient. Also, yesterday and today I had real world events to deal with (nothing major) that required me to be away from the site for awhile. I promise to put your comments through as soon as possible. Sometimes, I have to leave them in there until the “happiness engineer” can take a look at what is happening. I promise I am working on it, and it is a high priority for me.
Now on to this post. Kim Richards is once again blogging about her hospital stay. I am curious what you guys think about the excerpt below. I am particularly interested in those of you with a medical background. Have a read and please sign off in comments.
From Kim’s Blog
On the following day, my pain got even worse, so I spent the whole day getting tests done at the doctor’s. Next evening, I was admitted to the hospital. In my last blog post, I mentioned that I had been struggling with bronchitis and pneumonia for weeks. Well, the doctor said I had a fractured rib, ruptured disc, and hiatal hernia, which was caused by the increased pressure from coughing. No wonder I was in so much pain before poker night! I was in the hospital for nine days. But I’m happy to announce that I’m currently healthy and well!
Even though my family and I are going through some tough times right now, I feel stronger than ever because I need to and want to be there for Monty, my daughters, and son. All you moms out there know, we don’t get days off! Although it seems like I have a lot going on, that’s exactly what I love about my life! Planning my daughter’s wedding is the most beautiful thing I’ve ever done. I can’t believe my babies are all grown up, and I could not be more proud. Taking care of Monty has been bittersweet–it’s so painful to see my best friend slipping away, but at the same time, our relationship is stronger than ever. We’re treasuring every moment we have together. Don’t mistake my sadness for weakness. If I were not strong in my sobriety today, I could never do the things I’m doing. Thank you to those who have shared their kind words and support!
Listen, I wish her all the best. We never really know what goes on behind closed doors. I will say this. When my youngest had bronchitis, she bruised a rib from coughing so hard.
You can get a hiatal hernia from coughing, but the ailments she listed do not warrant a 9 day hospital stay. That is fishy. When I had major surgery I was home in 6 days. Even if she had surgery to repair the hiatal hernia, which I doubt as they would first treat it with medication, my father had one and was treated with medication for years before they had to finally address it and repair it with surgery. At 72 years old it was laproscopic surgery and he was home the next day. So not buying the 9 days hospital stay for what she listed as her ailments.
This is accurate kendrawn. Hospitals in CA want you OUT of there. Hernias, you go home same day of operation; cracked rib (s) no hospital stay; ruptured disc? Again, that does not lead to a hospital stay. Even if her back ‘went out’ (inflammation), MAYBE she would be on pain medication-yet how can she do that? So, she would be moved to a physical rehabilitation facility (if she had Cadillac insurance), or she would be put on hot compresses, ibuprofen/aspirin therapy, and bed rest at home. I stand by my opinion that she IS NOT drinking. However, it appears pain/prescription meds are what she needs rehab for. As she never directly addressed this addiction in her “program”, she still can allow herself “wiggle room”. Not being honest with herself, but true, nonetheless.
I was hospitalized for 8 days with pneumonia in 2014. It was horrible and painful. If she did have a bad case of pneumonia like I did, she could easily spend a long period of time in the hospital. In fact, a family friend had pneumonia, was admitted to the hospital for 25 days then died from it.
This is all true about the length of stay being really long, but having worked at hospitals that treat “celebrities”, the doctors really become idiots and order every test under the sun to make sure these “celebrities” feel they are getting treated like royalty. I would not be surprised she would be in the hospital for 9 days to treat things that should be treated outpatient. Doctors can be famewhores too.
::Yeah this is long::
Of the Bravo-Wives franchises RHOA is the only one I watch but I am VERY aware of the other popular ones RHOBH, RHONJ, and RHOOC. I have seen a little bit of one episode of RHOOC (dress like the 80’s party), it WAS drama filled and interesting enough. It couldn’t hold my attention enough to come back for more though. Mostly because everyone on there looked alike, and it’s annoying to have to stare at a bunch of Botox’d angry blondes with their weird old faces crying & yapping at each other.
Ok, that being said I just recently realized who the cast was on RHOBH, Kim Richards is a child star. My mom remembers who she is from her youth. Kim was big in Hollywood at one time. I read an article about her and a vicious pitbull she owns, that attacked people on several different occasions. At the bottom it had pics of Kim Richards as a child and as a teen. Wow, she was a pretty girl that grew into a beautiful young woman. Now, today, she’s an alcoholic drug addict with fried bleached-blonde hair and sun baked leathery skin. Sorry but Kim Richards is a sad sight to see. Typical “child star” turned adult, behavior. Y’all know 99% of these child stars are severely sexually abused, drugged, and mind controlled/programmed (MK-Ultra’d). 9 times out of 10 with the parents KNOWING about it, but as long as they’re getting paid they allow it. ALL of these child star end up on drugs & alcohol. Very few function normally as adults, that’s if they can make it to adulthood. I won’t go too deep into this subject but y’all have seen it happen with Corey Haim, he’s one example out of dozens (dead & still living). I see the same situation with Kim Richards and at this rate, she won’t survive another 5 years. It’s just sad to know, once again, she’s being exploited as an alcoholic drug addicted mentally disturbed adult on a reality tv show.
The Lisa Rinna character, to my understanding she’s a B-List actress from the 90’s, and so is her husband (which I’ve seen in a few old b-movies). I’ve seen Lisa Rinna in ONE LifeTime movie years ago that I ended up turning from because it was so boring (shame cuz I secretly LOVE those LifeTime flicks haha). Before that I had only, recently, seen her on a couple of talk shows promoting a book and speaking on her botched cosmetic surgeries. ***Mind you, EVERY time I’ve seen her she’s had that same terrible looking haircut that she is STILL wearing today. I’ve seen that hair-doo worn a million times around 2005, it looks like a wig that a “jazzy” old lady would wear!*** Anyways, in those interviews she said she wanted lips like Barbara Hershey in the movie “Beaches”, but came out looking like Donald Duck lol *her words* Yeah her lips do look more disturbing than Kerry Washington’s.
Lisa Rinna seems like a nice lady, but those lips and that hair of hers gots to go! I can’t stand to look at Lisa’s hair & lips, nor do I want to watch a pitiful “child star” slowly kill herself. Then there’s Brandi….(Is it true what I heard about the drunk tantrum/tampon string debacle? And some shit about her taking pics of her sick hospitalized child & posting on instagram!? *smh*)…..Yeah so, no RHOBH for me. The only reason I still watch RHOA is because I’ve been hoping & wishing that those snake ass bitches get their comeuppances, and it’s happening. So I’ll continue to watch that bullshit unfold. It BETTER pay off by the end of the season and the reunion, or I swear I won’t be watching anymore seasons of that greasy fuckin horror show.
Really? Ninety-nine percent of child stars are sexually abused, drugged and mind controlled? Not true. Sure, many have issues as they mature, but your allegations are whacked.
So you don’t watch the show, but you thought you would make a lengthy comment listing the cast and their bios so those of us who have been watching for years will know who we are watching?
Was that your point? I admit I stopped reading after, “Kim Richards is a former child star….” as if this is some secret information you found out by some mysterious spy net work.
I’ve had a stressful day. Is it just me?
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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No… not just you Tamara.
Nope, not just you. And I like Kerry Washingtons lips dammit!
English teacher habits: Count how many times she used the word “I” in her post. It’ll make your head spin and give you insight into the motivation for her lengthy post.
WHEN a “comment” looks like THIS I “ignore” it because “”I”” don’t CARE about internet “psychos”.
Wall of text comments aren’t really what I come here for. I stopped reading after the vicious pitbull part. We don’t need to go down that road again.
Didn’t Lisa get her lip implant removed? Those are her real lips, right?
Week, that’s a whole lot of negitivity and conjecture. Was that sop posed to be interesting?
Don’t you have a geometry test you need to study for?
Can you say OFF TOPIC? Where are you?
I don’t believe Kim’s explanation. If she truly had severe enough bronchitis or pneumonia to be hospitalized for 5 or 7 or 9, or whatever days, she would have been seriously ill. Been there, done that. She wasn’t coughing at all, didn’t seem to be in any discomfort at all. Her photo in the hospital doesn’t show any evidence of her being treated for lung issues. Where is the O2, the spirometer, etc?! As far as a broken rib -maybe alcohol or drug related ( fell while impaired?) The hiatal hernia could be related to long term alcohol abuse? I’m not sure what recovery program Kim follows, but an alcoholic taking someone else’s mystery narcotic pain medication is a huge red flag warning that Kim is no longer sober. Maybe she went to rehab, or had a nervous breakdown?
I have had 2 spinal fusions and I do not think you cough hard enough to rupture a disc. Plus at best they keep you only 2 days after surgery if you are in overall good health. Actually hernia surgery is an in/out patient surgery. I was not allowed to drive for 3 weeks. I think there is far more to this than we are reading, of which I have empathy for but don’t complain of medical issues that those that have had to suffer through…recover from. Not saying she wasn’t sick but doubt we are hearing it straight.
I do think that the medical problems she is experiencing are legitimate. The problem is that Kim has years and years of an addicts lack of credibility to overcome. By her behavior, I think that she did have a relapse or two. If you are an addict who takes your addiction problem seriously why would you “pop” someone else’s pain pill. I would think prior to filming that night she would have consulted her doctor about the intense pain and have her doctor prescribe or recommend what she should or should not take.
All that being said, her medical issues don’t absolve her from her bizarre and rude behavior that night. She owes everyone except Brandi an apology.
I think by Kim’s behavior now that she is “sober” that the words that come out of her mouth are not be questioned because she is now “sober.” Isn’t that like what AA calls a dry drunk? They stopped taking pills or drinking but their behavior doesn’t change.
Relapses are expected with any kind of addiction. The challenge is to get back up and get back on her program. If she did relapse, I can assure you, it was devastating to her and probably has caused her a lot of pain and shame. She strikes me as a person who is sincere about her recovery, so every relapse is traumatic to her.
I had a dear friend that was addicted from early childhood on, and anytime she was truly sick she had to stay in the hospital longer than anyone else would have because they had to monitor all her pain meds so closely. She was in/out recovery many times, and really did try, but she did major damage to her heart over the years and died in her sleep in her 30’s. Kim being so tiny, I am sure the damage she is doing to that body is harder than to an average size person.
I don’t believe she’s devastated – I don’t think she’s taken any responsibility for her relapse-I betcha she doesn’t even think of it as a relapse-she was “sick” and she needed the pill! I’ve been in recovery for 22 years-been to over a thousand meetings and Kim is full of sh-t.
Chasesmum: So much for compassion in recovery….take a look back, dear, to your early years and be grateful. Judge her all you want, but try to recall how you felt about being judged when you were new to the program.
I have yet to hear Kim R. take any responsiblity for her actions. I think she was devastated by getting called out for using. In fact she actually said last week, she found the whole event funny and thought everyone was being dramic. Kim is a master manipulator, and is blaming everyone else like she always does.
Yes, a dry drunk is someone who is not drinking but continuing to act as if they are. One thing to keep in mind though is that alcoholism damages the brain severely. So, a long term alcoholic could get sober and work their recovery properly but still appear to be intoxicated because of the damage they’ve done to their brain or because of the medication they have to take to keep their brain functioning properly. Well, as properly as is possible. It takes on average 7 years for a brain to heal to what we call it’s new normal after the last sip of a drink.
No hospital is going to keep you for nine days in this day and age. They do not get reimbursed for an eight day stay of bronchitis. My theory is that she went someplace to detox for eight days. There is no cure for a cracked rib. I broke my ribs last year, and they don’t even bind them anymore because they have learned that that makes it worse. they will send you home with tylenol 3 or Oxy and you will just live with the pain for a couple of weeks. None of her “injuries” required surgery or a stay in ICU. She may have been committed to a psych ward.
A dry drunk is just a drinker who is abstaining but still has a drinker’s mentality. It’s not because he appears intoxicated. As soon as he gets triggered, he’ll reach for the bottle. A dry drunk still believes that he can control his alcohol intake and doesn’t have a drinking problem. I do believe that Kim is not drinking, but she’s fooling herself if she believes that she maintains sobriety when she uses Rx drugs instead of her drug of choice…booze.
Depending on how bad a case of pneumonia is, a week or more stay is not unheard of. If she has a hiatal hernia, and a cracked rib, she probably isn’t able to expand her lungs enough for deep breathing to help keep her O2 levels up. A high WBC count, elevated CO2 and decreased O2 levels would meet criteria for inpatient for most insurances. I used to be a transplant case manager for BCBS. I just find it strange that she is not shown to be in any sort of respiratory distress, and enjoying a cigar, but had been sick for weeks.
You notice she was not on 02?
I have had broken ribs twice from falls, yes I’m a klutz and there was no way you can be walking around playing poker. It’s very painful and hard to even breath. The doctors sent me home because there is nothing they can do for you but let them heal on their own and gave me pain pills. It sounds fishy to me, I hope she gets the help she needs, she does not need to be on a reality show for sure.
Was she under an ebola watch quarantine? Seems excessive to me.
I have seen patients come in with a cracked rib from super severe coughing.. But the fact that Kim was smoking a cigar doesn’t fit into her story. There’s no way – it would burn like hell!
And not once was there any coughing. Not the car ride over, not while smoking a cigar and not during the lengthy messy scene outside. I realize they can edit some of that out but if a genuine moment is happening they can’t necessarily reshoot it just because she coughed.
lol coughing must be really hard to edit out because last night on the Late Late show, Regis Philbin kept coughing right into the mic and they couldn’t edit that out!
Those shows are so heavily edited… I’ve heard that they even splice in words, phrases and rearrange arguments to fit storylines… What you see on TV is not usually exactly what happened.
Exactly, Jujue…i had pneumonia in college, had to leave school to recuperate. When I was back at school, I inhaled something akin to a cigar, let’s just say…30 years later, and I still remember that stupid decision and how bad it hurt.
Okay, I don’t partake in cigars very often, but I always understood that cigars are NOT to be inhaled. If you are inhaling them, I think you’re doing it wrong. 🙂
Ohhhh
Bronchitis and pneumonia go hand in hand with cocaine abuse. Just saying.
Yikes! Is that true? I’ve never heard that.
Yes, abusing cocaine is hard on your lungs.
That’s interesting. I’ve always thought she had more of a problem than just alcohol and after hearing Kyle tell Lisa R. that they (the family) were taught by their mom to keep Kim’s problem a secret it makes sense. Not that it lessens the severity of Kim’s problem by saying her problem is with alcohol, but I think they deem it a little more acceptable than saying she’s a drug addict. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve always thought because she seems whacked out of her mind like someone on drugs more than drunk like an alcoholic, JMO,hope it makes sense!
And smoking meth. Which is what I personally believe is the real issue.
If you’ve ever seen the transformation in the physical appearances of meth users, you would not have that opinion of Kim. Check out the Portland (OR) Police Bureau compilation of meth users and the physical transformations that occur over only a relatively short period of time. Scary!
I personally think one of her main addictions is or was perscription drugs. They can make you more loopy than any of the illegal drugs.
@puravidacostarica2… I unfortunately know some meth addicts, some of whom are in recovery, some of who are not (meth is everywhere). I agree with you that meth is extremely hard on a person physically, but most of the people I know who either abused or were addicted to meth do not look like the widely distributed police photos. Especially the addicts with money. Besides, Kim does look very aged, and her teeth are not in the best shape. I could be wrong; however, I’ve seen people high on meth and her behavior, especially with that ex-boyfriend, scream meth to me. It also explains why “alcohol” is always publicly referenced as her addiction– pills and booze have much less stigma than meth. Lastly, Brandi once called her out for it, and she’s from Sacramento. She would know.
JustJenn, that is very true, many have chronic bronchitis.
When my husband had bronchitis, it hit him like a ton of bricks, he was in horrible shape. Kim always has a million excuses when she relapses. I don’t believes she went from being a 20 year alcoholic to strong sobriety in just that short time we saw on the show. I think she relapses often, and then everyone around her scrambles to cover it up and make excuses.
She looks healthy and oddly enough happy in the picture. Strange.
“Doctor…my pain level is THIS! *points to the number 10 really sad face*”
=happy
But in all seriousness, I hope she’s sober again and can continute to build/rebuild her life, I don’t blame her for not wanting to talk about anything in a Bravo real housewives blog.
I’m over her.
This.
Me, too! Done, Finito, Terminado!
Im so over her too. She is a horrible liar. She is delusional if she thinks anybody believes her stories.
I really wish her the best..and that she and her sister will eventually get to a point where they can explore intensive counseling together- they’ve got to do the work to get to the roots of their dysfunctional relationship, and start breaking patterns, otherwise they will always be in this cycle- dancing this dance of anger and shattered expectations until the day they die. It’s really sad.
Yup!
There is a really good book about the cycle of alcoholism, and all other isms, too. The title is The Dance of Anger. It helped me step out of my family’s cycle that has been going on for several generations and I’m glad to say that neither of my children drink or do drugs. I always give that book a lot of credit for helping me break the cycle. Your post reminded me of the book, sweettea.
During my late teen years that very book circulated amongst my friends like wildfire (!!) : we were young, precocious kids getting our own jump on the burgeoning “self-help” movement reading that, A Course in Miracles, & lots of Leo Buscaglia..when I visited my parents last I was searching for it- managed to swipe a lot of books from the bookshelves in my old room,but missed that one-: it’s definitely on my “book replacement” list as I grow older and revisit some of the seminal works that influenced me at a young age. Your post just reminded me to put it on my online bookshelf to order, thanks, Peach!
Lies. I had two broken ribs last year. She would not have been running around, smoking, yelling and wanting to play poker. Add to that ,bronchitis and pneumonia. She would be flat on her back. She obviously fell off the wagon, big time. Get her off the show. She’s a tired, boring mess.
She fell off the wagon alright and landed smack on her head.
And then went home and fell down hence the hospital stay
Medically, what she says makes sense. What doesn’t make sense was her going to the poker party and smoking cigars if she was that ill.
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I came down with the flu two weeks ago (even after getting the vaccine). I coughed so hard and so much I fully expected the blood vessels in my brain to blow. Still coughing some and not sure I’ll ever get my sense of smell back.
Kim’s bronchitis, etc could have been over by then – and appeared too be. But she still could have been suffering from rib, connective tissue issues. But a 9 day hospital stay? Not really buying it.
What I do think, as garnered from Kim’s past behavior, is that she was drinking and drugging. It seems the only times I’ve seen Kim get really mean, lippy and aggressive, is when she was drinking. That’s what I saw at the poker game and car ride with Lisa R. Plus I believe her when she said she was on pain killers as well.
It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Meaning, she could have been legitimately ill and also relapsing at the same time. 9 days is excessive for a typical patient but if she’d been abusing pharmaceuticals and/or alcohol that can require a medically monitored detox because of seizure potential amongst other things. You’re only in the hospital 4 days for knee replacement sugery and 2-4 for a c- section just to give you an idea…..
Nine days in the hospital? Nope, not buying what she is selling.
My dad cracked a rib from coughing when he had pneumonia so I can believe that. Didn’t she get her nose done and not use pain Meds? Same when she tripped over her dog and hurt herself, no pain Meds. She made a big deal out of it. I’m not saying that if she was in pain like she said she was that she didn’t need a pain pill but I just find it odd that she would take one now, not then.
Forgot to say, my dad just got out of the hospital 2 weeks ago. He was in for 10 days with double pneumonia. He’s 74 and has black lung. Kim is much younger and healthier. No way she would need to stay nine days.
My medical background involves me being a guinea pig. That said, my professional diagnosis from the information given is that if she really was diagnosed with those very painful thugs that she had been walking around with for who knows how long, she was self medicating. The only reason she went to a doctor is because she was caught out as using. She thought she was using like a normal person but because her behavior was out of control she had no choice but to seek help and like others have said, the length of her stay indicate a detox.
I bet she was too drugged up to feel the damage she was doing while coughing and made it worse. Could happen to anyone but her personality spiraling out of control is what shows she cant handle it.
Agree with your last statement Kat. She was too drugged up to feel any additional damage. Unfortunately, the meds make her loopy, nonsensical, delusional, combative, and a little paranoid. Those symptoms were not addressed in her blog.
I don’t believe Kim’s story but I don’t think she stayed in the hospital for 9 days to detox. I am an addict (in recovery) & it never takes 9 days to detox. Especially if it’s Opiates (pain meds). The max a person stays for detox is 5 days. However by day 3 you are pretty much over the physical withdrawals. Second the hospital would not admit Kim to detox, they would send her to a detox facility.
I totally disagree. I was addicted to narcotics in the 80s. I was in hospital detox for 11 days, and then went on to a 45 day treatment program. Believe me, it doesn’t just take 3 days. From my experience, I do not believe Kim’s story. More than likely, she was stealing Monty’s pills..he found out, which is why he left, and why Kim was mad. Not because he was gone, but now her supply was gone, and she would be going through withdrawals the next day..And sure enough, she ends up in the hospital! I don’t believe she got that messed up from pain pills either, she washed them down with some booze, and probably xanax. A combination that will produce the behavior she exhibited. Her excuses are sounding like Lindsay Lohan’s..totally ridiculous. This woman needs to attend meetings. And Kyle needs alanon! She doesn’t practice the steps, as she blames others for everything. She got mad at Ken last season for pointing out she didn’t act sober..she tried to blame Lisa this time as well. She isn’t fooling me.
Detox protocols in the 80s are a lot different than now. Now its approx a 5 day stay and suboxone (sometimes methadone) is used. It’s way shorter and more comfortable than it used to be. I grew up with this info:my mother was a detox/rehab nurse for over 30 years, eventually went on to management and created the inpt detox/rehab protocols for her center. Things have drastically changed from 30 years ago, point is, it should have only taken 5-7 days for detox.
Detoxing was my very first thought too. Or an OD. Or both.
If Kim is a private pay patient, she can stay in the hospital as long as she wants. There is no insurance company to fuss about the length of stay, admission criteria.Due to a bad flu season, there is probably a shortage of hospital beds. I don’t think she would be admitted for bullshit reasons. She might have been getting detoxed or getting treated for pneumonia or both. Who cares. Hope she gets better.
Bravo is not healthy for children and other living things.
In a bind for drugs and got money? Check yourself into the hospital screaming in pain. Kim’s full of shit.
Checked into club med. perhaps.
Nine days sounds like detox before a diagnosis could be made. Thinking she had respiratory problems that ended up being structural problems is odd for anyone!
One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small. And the ones that mother gives you don’t do anything at all….Remember what the door mouse said…Feed your head.- J.A.
Lol . . . . T D
@TD – Listening to it now on Youtube.
Grace is a goddess.
She wasn’t in the hospital getting treated for pneumonia, cracked ribs, or hernia for nine days. I have that type of hernia and have never had surgery, so perhaps it’s not that bad, it does cause reflux. Meds take care of that. The first time I had pneumonia there was a big flu outbreak. I was told not to come into the doctors office and he sent meds to me. I suffered for a week. Turned out I had pneumonia and had cracked a rib. Trust me, as far as the ribs go, nothing to do. No way could I have gone to a party and smoked cigar. I was too exhausted to do anything because you tend not to sleep when you are coughing all the time. Kim’s not telling the whole truth! I asked my mother who is a RN if A HYPOTHETICAL PERSON had Kim’s injuries could they be caused by pneumonia and she said yes. The disc would be more likely in an older person. I then ask her if someone would be admitted to the hospital for 9 days as a result. She said maybe if they still had pneumonia and what type it was, but to her IT SOUNDED MORE LIKE A DETOX!
Totally agree with you, I think her new BFF, Brandy, helped her concoct the story.
Injuries are completely possible as she described. Length of hospital stay seems a bit excessive, but if she’s paying privately and not only staying based on what her insurance covers, of course the hospital will keep her in longer…more money in their pockets. Plus, I wonder if the length of stay was longer because of her addiction history and the fact that perhaps there was no one to care for her at home? Who knows, maybe she was moved to a rehab floor of the hospital for additional care.
Okay, just the fact that she was smoking (it was lit and there was ash) makes me disbelieve she had anything serious going on with her respiratory system. She is completely full of it and a lying liar who lies. She needs to man up and be honest about her issues or get off the show.
This just doesn’t add up. Monty’s the one who’s terminally ill, he’s home. Kim is hospitalized for pain, for nine days.
I’ve had 2 back surgeries…one for a ruptured disc which was causing numbness in my left leg, then 2 yrs later a 360 fusion. That being said I was an ER nurse working 12 hr shifts with these back problems and I rarely went out for fun etc….even sitting was hard to do. With all of these problems she is saying she was hospitalized for I just don’t see how she was at that poker event. Even with the fusion surgery I was out in 4/5 days. and back at home on pain meds which I only needed for a short time. Her story just doesn’t add up.
I worked in Triage in ER for years before going to step-down and a 9-day stay sounds like a detox dual diagnosis dry out rehab type order.She has one IV line,nothing piggy backing and not even a pulse ox on her finger and her illnesses do not need 24 hour monitoring. Pneumnia meds do not have to run for 9 days unless complication, but very usual. No way she would stay in there that long based on her physical conditins. Unless she was not stable mentally which detox falls under that catergory and I have seen doctors keep patients in the hospital refusal to release them unless they are transfered or dried out.
One of my good friend’s husband just had a 6 hour surgery to remove a cancerous brain tumor. This was on a Friday and they sent him home on Sunday evening. No way in hell was she in there for 9 days for a broken rib. Calling bullshit
Your length of hospital stay depends far more on your insurance or how you are paying for the bill than your actual medical condition. Sad but true.
@swizzle sooo true. I assume it was a private pay detox (but I have no medical background). I have been kept in the hospital waaaay longer by a surgeon that’s a friend of the family for a routine hysterectomy so my sister wouldnt have to play play evil nurse at home. This way the hospital kept me and managed my pain properly. I was there ridiculously long. Same for other types of routine procedures if was surgeon was close to my family. Weird, I know-and that was thru insurance. Kim needs to get off the show. And Brandi is still a Beotch!
I doubt she was in the hospital for nine days. Look, she had to back up her story about being “in pain” enough to take whatever she did that night. She got caught with her hand in the cookie jar so she had to go with it. It was a cover for her so that she didn’t have to admit anything. And then everyone in her life goes, “well, I mean, look… she IS in pain. She’s in the HOSPITAL.” Ridiculous. And sad.
Well now isn’t this interesting? Brandi in her Bravo blog just posted that Kim was in pain and took a pain pill from Monty that was too strong for her. Wouldn’t you think that Brandi and Kim would at least try to get their stories straight since Kim has decided to spin this hospitalization this way. She’s claiming it is because of pneumonia, bronchitis, a hiatal hernia, a fractured rib and a herniated disc. Ah who is it again that is outing Kim? Sure sounds like Brandi to me. Kim made no mention in this blog about the drugs she took.
Kim said on the shoe that she had taken a pain pill.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Ok brain fart. I was trying to say something different and obviously failed miserably at that. What I was trying to say was in the bathroom Kim basically told Kyle that she had been in pain and Monty had given her pills that her doctor had prescribed. Then in her first blog about it she says she took pills from Monty but never confirms if they are the ones from her doctor or ones prescribed for Monty that he gave her or my choice, ones she just stole from him. Then Brandi writes her blog and states that Monty gave Kim his prescribed pills and they were too strong for her. Kim has yet to own up to the complete story. Don’t know if she is not saying she either took the pills without his permission to protect herself or that he gave them to her to protect him. Either way she is still evading the truth just like she is with this hospitalization story.
Its sounds like pain med seeking to me. Not your run of the mill pills but the good stuff by IV. Been there done that. But as far as detox goes. Yes you can ve there 9 days if not more. Spent 15 in one but to be fair. I spent 7 days in the actual detox and the rest waiting for a bed at a treatment center. They didnt want me to have out between detox and treatment. I dont suppose that was Kims case though since she is out and about.
Two things:
Firstly, I don’t think “relapse” is the correct word as I don’t believe Kim ever completely quit drugs. Even when she cut back, she still hadn’t accepted responsibility or become a decent civilized human being. Instead, she went screeching through the show about how nobody should accuse her of anything because she had a disease. Well, part of overcoming that disease is to accept responsibility for the harms that disease has inflicted on other people. At no time did Kim ever accept responsibility or demonstrate the characteristics of a truly recovering addict. I believe they call them “dry drunks” even when it involves pills. Meaning the substance itself has been put on hold, but the addiction continues.
Secondly, this story is total bullshit. Last week, they were trying to sell the story of bronchitis. When watchers all over asked about the lack of coughing, it switched to “complications of bronchitis”. Kyle’s silence on the matter this week screams volumes.
Totally surprises me the number of people who think this is true because it is written by an addict on a Bravo blog. Common sense doesn’t seem to be so common. Watch her actions instead of listening to her bullshit.
Great comment! I completely agree!
Sounds about right! Agree 100%
Further, from a deception analysis standpoint, this statement screams “lie”:
If this was true, she would have said “I had a fractured rib . . . “, not “Well, the doctor said . . . ”
Most likely those are the things the doctor tested for when she complained of pain, looking to cover up for her pain medication usage (and theft of such medication from her dying ex husband). When the doctor had ruled out such possibilities, s/he placed her on medical hold to allow Kim to detox.
Kim is the Lindsay Lohan of Beverly Hills. She just doesn’t know how to spell chikungunya.
My friend had Chikungunya a few months ago, it was running wild in Jamaica. She was a zombie and she is tough as nails. I’m supposed to go visit but so scared of contracting it.
Wow. I had no idea Chikungunya had come to the Caribbean. Jamaica seems particularly hard hit, but it’s pretty much everywhere down there now. BVIs, Puerto Rico, St Lucia….St Barts….everywhere. UGH.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Let’s suppose she did have those ailments, wouldnt she be in too much pain to move even if she had taken a pain pill? Also, wouldnt the smoking hurt her bronchitis? Also, if she went to the doc wouldnt they have caught the bronchitis etc and given her antibiotics or something for those issues?
If she had bronchitis prior to going her going in the hospital you can actually break a rib from coughing.
I have a ruptured disc myself and that is very painful. She may have been postponing all her medical issues to take care of her ex husband and also she’s dealing with addiction problems.
Opiate addicts frequently report having pain all over their body. I never believed Kim was an alcoholic, i think she prefers all other drugs over alcohol. My cousin is a nurse and reports that lots of addicts come in citing general pain and require a ton of tests just to be sent home with no meds.
Yes! This is what I say. The alcoholism is a diversion.
My cousin has bronchitis and that doesn’t stop her from smoking. Granted she sounds like she’s dying when she does
A relative was infamous in our family for checking into various hospitals in search of pain meds. It was tragic. Sadly, like Kim, he is still lying to himself about it. As someone above said, I am over her.
I accept, I may be wrong, but
1) I always thought that pneumonia is the final stage of let’s say untreated/ignored bronchitis, so you can’t have both at the same time.
2) Her body language did not support the broken/cracked rib story. You cannot breath, you can’t move and wave your arms around the way she did. You want to protect your vertebrae from any movement and you keep you torso stiff and arms really close to it.
3) Smoking is painful, induces cough; even those e-cigs – I am coughing like crazy. In the meantime all this filming going on – not a single sound on Kim’s part.
4) Can you rupture a disc? I always heard disc being displaced, it can pop out of place, but rupture?
5) Kyle said something about docs suspecting ulcers…
6) Kim said she doubled down in pain and that’s when she decided to go to hospital. Hmmm
Hmm, too many ailments. It’s all over the place. If she had all of this she would not be able to walk. And we have seen she was walking, crying, waving her hands, pulling on and being pulled by people – not a single screech of pain, cough, discomfort on her face. Oy vey
I’ve bee a nurse for years, and I have seen patients stay for periods of length of time if pain management doctors are involved. Those doctors like to slowly wean you from pain meds. Now, my theory on Kim, is that the pain management doctors know she is an alcoholic and /or she was truthful on just how much pain mess she was taking, and they were watching for withdrawals (that takes at least 3-4 days). Combined that with a ruptured disc, you are in the hospital for about 4-5 days…not 9. The other theory could be that psych was observing her and they didn’t clear her.
Someone suggested reading the book House of Hilton for background on Kim and Kyle’s family background, so I did. It does open your eyes. If half of what is said about Big Kathy is true, well it explains a lot!
I tend not to believe Kim, usually. OTH, I’ve experienced bruised ribs from coughing so hard, and had walking pneumonia that lasted for weeks. But what I don’t understand is why kim showed up to the poker party at all, whether she was sick or high. Was it a contractual obligation, so she couldn’t get out of it?
Well all I can say is Kim didn’t get a VIP room. My have the mighty have fallen. Kim was being medically detoxed. I was more curious what her family problems are presently. I am assuming she means as in sisterly problems.
The three items she mention rib, hernia, disc could have been around for a long time. What she did mention is what kind of treatment she received for them it did not sound like they required acute care.
Sad that she’s in denial about the status of her sobriety but maybe right this moment she is clean. Maybe it was just during filming that she wasn’t. Maybe she’ll stay clean. I wish her the best.
i believe Kim. First of all, if you’re in Cedar Sinai, you have a private room and you can stay as long as you pay. Secondly, you can get costochondritis is very painful and it could be caused by heavy coughing. I had it and I thought I was having a heart attach and couldn’t breath. It took days for the pain to fully subside. Remember, Kim told the truth to her sister and said she took a pain pill and if it was for her ex-husband, it must have been strong. Give the lady a break. Besides she was on “Revenge” and she looked great.
Yes’ you can get costochondritis from severe coughing. Severe coughing can also aggravate a hiatal hernia and cause a herniated disc. But the only time Kim was shown coughing was when talking with Brandi, and it sounded forced. If she did have the ailments and injuries she claims, there is NO way she could have gone to Eileen’s house, and moved around freely. Pneumonia severe enough to cause those injuries and to require a lengthy hospital stay is a severe illness that would completely physically drain you. As in- it’s hard to walk down the hall to the bathroom kind of exhaustion. In the hospital photo, there is no O2, spirometer, pulse oximeter, nor is Kim’s IV setup corresponding with her claimed maladies.
As a nurse of many yrs working in ICU, step down and outpatient units, a 9 day hospital stay is excessive for those diagnoses for a young patient. Anybody under 70 is young. I actually believe what Kyle originally said. Alcoholics are routinely admitted with GI bleeds. Coupled with pneumonia that wasn’t aggressively dealt with – now that would easily be a weeks stay. Kim isn’t gonna say ulcers Bc everybody in healthcare knows that it’s common with drinkers. I think she was popping those pills well before the pneumonia and really got herself in a pickle. Somebody mentioned meth and I tend to agree on that. I thought meth or pain meds from day one. Just my observations anyway.
Monty has cancer, he gave her something for the pain, she was messssssed up! OK so what, who gives a crap. seriously having a loved one die in front of you from cancer is really bad, as a lot of have gone thru first hand. Monty probably gave her his dilaudid. Death sux, but harpy, judging, biotches sux worse. Nervous breakdowns are really really not fun.
What are you talking about? Looking at this situation, she has a bad physical and mental reaction when she uses medication. SO, taking meds, in any form is not an option for her, even if a nervous breakdown is looming. Yes, having someone die from cancer “in front of you” is painful. Really. But you sound like you could use some advice from the concerned participants here. I hardly see them as harpy, judging bitches. Step down and regroup.
I think you said it best when commenting on how she was smoking cigars on poker night with no problems. Getting past that, her multiple medical issues are unlikely but possible and sounds more like she googled pneumonia complications. Beyond that, anyone suddenly experiencing severe pain that would be located in her chest/back and would cause difficulty breathing would probably seek medical attention rather than self medicate and try to forget it, ESPECIALLY an addict who takes their sobriety seriously. Even if her diagnosis is real, that is a relapse. And it sounds more like a relapse that is being explained away in an attempt to cover it up.
Kim was definitely on something the night of the poker party and Brandi was amping up the situation at the table and from the moment she walked into Eileens house. Kim is an addict, there is no such thing as taking one pill for pain. She knows better then that. I am assuming that since she knew what she was sick with, she was under a doctors care. Why would you even go to a party if you had pneumonia. She did not look sick during the day trip or at the party. My assessment is that she thought that was a good excuse for taking the pain pill. She needs help and the last person she needs is Brandi “helping” her.
I did watch this episode and I call bullshit.
From Season 1 Kim has been using, we’ve never seen her clean and sober. We met a using addict.
For a time when Kim did a few cameos after rehab she was probably clean but we didn’t see her socially. We did not see her interacting with the ladies.
She’s seems like she is using and drinking. If that’s true, her words mean nothing.
It’s just the way it is.
Pneumonia can definitely lead to a lengthy hospital stay….especially since her pneumonia was recalcitrant to outpatient treatment…… A ruptured disc is typically extraordinarily painful and typically requires narcotics for pain management….. One can fracture a rib(s) from a chronic cough. Kim’s hospitalization adds up to me…..
And a fractured rib will bring a grown man to his knees…..
Using my professional nursing opinion, I think that Kim had a high amount of drugs in her labs and the doctor included in her plan of care a mental health consult which handles drug abuse. When care is being coordinated with psych, a patient can be in the hospital for a few weeks. The first 4-5 days is spent on getting the patient physically back together, addicts are usually in bad health and have other conditions. Psych does not even consult with the patient until they are dried out and sober clinically which can take a few days. Go to the hospital with a high amount of drugs in your system, prescribed or not, most doctors are not going to send you home the same night to harm yourself. The plan of care includes a facility or psych consult before being released if it is a drug issue.
Not just you at all Tamara! Is it wrong that before I even read your response to that (ridiculously long & pointless) comment, I was thinking of how I couldn’t wait until you laid into her for it! I mean come on, Kim was a child star??! Really?! Who would have thought?! You actually went much easier on her than u thought you would (although I haven’t read any further down the comments yet, so I don’t know if that’s all that was said)
Anyway, thanks for the laugh, bc you literally said exactly what I was thinking.
* Oops, “you actually went much easier on her than I thought you would”, I meant of course.
I don’t know exactly when this 9 day stay in the hospital ACTUALLY took place. Months ago, during filming? But what I do find interesting is there was no mention or record of it when it did happen. Nine days? Didn’t anyone go visit her? Her bff Brandi? her sister? Remember these women don’t do ANYTHING without mentioning it on Twitter and recording it on Instagram.i don’t remember anything. Kyle posted all of those pix of her daughter in the hospital room post dog bite. Hell, Brandi will snap photos of her unconscious kid en route.
They love to public ally record every minute of their lives.
Funny…..no mention of this from anyone.
I included a photo with a date in the post.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thank you, Tamara. I hadn’t noticed that.
If anyone goes back and checks Kim’s Twitter feed during The whole month of August…well, let’s just say she was very active. Out and about, busy and documenting each day. The wedding, the housewarming, going to an opening of Dave and Busters, etc. so much fun and activity. Day after day. Photos, fun, instagrams, twitters.
There just doesn’t seem to be any 9 day period of “rest”.
Yes and there Kim reclines, grinning back at us, like the Cheshire cat. It’s surreal.
It’s amazing the lengths some of you will go to to try and make Kim’s version make sense.
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…and you just had somekind of mushroom, and your mind is moving slow…
I just thought of something that could add on days. I was admitted for pain everywhere, couldn’t move, my abdomen killed and a high fever. It took I think 4 days before they were able to diagnose the problem and medicate me. Then they kept me for another three until my blood counts reached safe enough levels to release me. So don’t assume Kim walked in the ER being coherent enough to accurately describe her symptoms. I find the hardest part when talking to doctors is accurately describing what I’m feeling. Imagine an addict who was high at the time trying to be accurate? It’s not like Kyle could tell them what Kim was feeling.
I dream about a machine that we step into, and then the doctor goes in and he feels exactly what we are feeling and can diagnose us quickly and accurately. So we don’t get our words mixed up. Wouldn’t that be wonderful?
I had 4 discs removed from my neck (ACDF) and was in the hospital ONE night. She may have had those things but that doesnt call for a 9 day hospital stay. It may even have been her admitting dx, but that doesnt mean she wasnt there for an ETOH/opiate detox, which incidentally only takes about 5 days. Docs can fudge the admitting dx to a degree-at least they used to be able to, either way she needs to stop crowing about her non existent sobriety. She hasnt been and never was. When they filmed one of the reunions that she wasnt at, because she was in rehab and they did her portion separately, she looked so benzo’d out, I was surprised “sober” ever came out of her mouth. That said it isnt uncommon to treat etoh w/d with a benzo but you arent sober if thats the case.
And like it’s been previously mentioned, she HARDLY acted like someone in so much pain she needed a 9 day hospital stay while at Eileens. She didnt even act SICK, just high as a kite. Her voice wasnt hoarse from all her turrible coughing, she was walking in heels, waving her arms around and certainly not doubled over. I smell a big pile of BS.
Hmmm … “Desperately Seeking Attention” starring Kim Richards, forme child actor. The delusion is strong with this one.
Kim Richards is sick & in more ways than one whether its bronchitis, cracked ribs, bipolar, alcohol, drugs, prescriptive meds/pain killers, meth or all of the above, I think we can all agree it’s not entertaining & IMO she needs to leave the show. And if Kim is Kyle’s storyline well then she needs to follow suit. The only entertainment I see is the lifestyle of Lisa Vanderpump! She appears to be happy, encounters some of life’s problems but certainly knows how to enjoy her life & family without the over-the-top drama.
Get well soon, Kim.