I love Lisa Rinna and I was surprised to see that she was so quick to assume that Kim was high on the car ride to the poker party. In retrospect, I thought perhaps things were edited even though it looked like Lisa was still getting in the car. I thought about Phaedra’s neighbors who said that it took hours for production to film Phaedra getting in the van at her house when they went on the trip to Savannah. On TV, it seemed to us like all the ladies drove on their own to Nene’s neighborhood to catch the van. But the neighbors say that the van picked up everyone at their homes. So there is a lot of crazy editing.
Lisa explains that on the way to the poker game, Kim asked to use the restroom at her house before they went on to the party. That is interesting to me because at the last poker party, Kim was going into the bathroom a lot to use and Brandi called her out on it. Click through to read Lisa’s explanation….
From Lisa’s blog…
I knew the night was going to be a wild one when I saw how Kim was behaving when she arrived at my house before heading to Malibu. She asked to use the bathroom and was acting as if she was high on something, which is why I asked her if she had been drinking or was on drugs when we got into the car. I mean, HELLO! Could that car ride with Kim be any more awkward? Let me tell you, it felt just as awkward as it looked to all of you. I really had no idea what was going on or what to do. Every interaction I have ever had with Kim up until that point was light, fun, and easy going. This was a completely different, very unpredictable, and aggressive Kim sitting next to me in the car, and to be honest, it made me feel extremely nervous and anxious. I wasn’t sure if it was an act or a game we were playing, but deep down in my gut, I knew there was more to it and something was going on with her. I couldn’t get out of that car fast enough when we arrived at Eileen’s home, and I really had no idea what she would do next.
Kim wants to use Lisa’s bathroom = Kim wants to see inside Lisa’s medicine cabinet.
Allegedly.
The modus operandi of a medicine cabinet junkie, excellent point.
Are we really supposed to think Lisa Rinna has ONE bathroom in her entire mansion? So Kim asks to use the bathroom because she wants to look inside her med cabinet?!? In what? In Lisa’s guest bathroom which probably doesn’t even HAVE a medicine cabinet to begin with?
Who in Beverly Hills stores their meds in the same bathroom they’d usher a guest into? These ppl have their own massive private bathrooms connected to their bedrooms likely on a different floor that their guests EVER even SEE.
Well, alrighty then. Rich people’s problems = no comprende.
Clearly Kim just needed a space away from the cameras to finish snorting what was in her baggy. Any bathroom away from cameras would have sufficed.
That was my conclusion, Michael. She used the bathroom because it was a private place, off camera, to do whatever she was doing to keep her buzz going. Most of the women live hours apart. Or, she really had to go! lol
Spot on.
Lisa asked an honest question. It’s no one’s first trip to the rodeo so Lisa noticed Kim’s behavior/condition and inquired.
Love Lisa R. She’s the only one who makes any sense.
Kim’s substance abuse issues aren’t taboo, but she sure acts like it. Relapse isn’t out of the question, especially when she’s being erratic and downright hostile.
Kim’s mother and family have made her issues “taboo”. Kim becomes outraged when anyone mentions her recovery/relapses. She’s been “labeled” and will forever have to endure the side-eye that comes with it. I hope this doesn’t have a tragic ending.
I like Lisa R and Eileen. I wonder how long they are going to last on this show, because they are both too ‘sane’ acting to be on for long. Like Cyndy, I hope this doesn’t have a tragic ending also.
You’ll have to pry Lisa R out by force. She will do it until they let her go or the show is cancelled. Eileen on the other hand, may be a one and done. She doesn’t need the attn. and has plenty of money. We’ll see.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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THIS. I fell in love with Lisa R when she talked about the adult diaper she promoted and how it paid more than almost any job ever had. Besides it’s fun to have someone on this show to root for…LVP used to be my fave but after reading your blog and her restaurant drama I see her through new eyes. Lisa Rinna is fun and her warts & all approach to being on this show brings some much needed lightness. Getting rid of last year’s newbies is the best decision Andy ever made. I love me some Lisa R! Also, Eileen is a refreshingly normal presence but I would be surprised if she does another season. She’s way too functional for all of this.
Yeah, I won’t be surprised if Eileen doesn’t come back. Her reactions to some of the scenarios that have played out so far look to me like she didn’t fully realize what she was getting herself into.
I hope they stick around a bit. They are refreshing to watch. I’m particular about the BH housewives… I like for them to provide a glimpse into the unique BH lifestyle. I guess that’s why I’m so grossed out that they’ve kept Brandi around.
I agree. Lisa R. is a lifer. Eileen on the other hand, doesn’t seem like the type of person to have the tolerance for this level of crazy drama, Her patience with the ladies was stretched at her poker party. Unless she has a new book coming out, she’s gone after this season.
If I was socializing one on one with someone who was acting like that, I would ask if she was high or drunk too. why is it “off limits” just because Kim is an addict? Lisa asked…and she was right.
Addicts know better than to take pain meds not prescribed to them. Kim’s innocent act isn’t flying with me. That or her definition of sober is different than mine.
Yeah how dare anyone call Kim out on her bizarre behavior and imply that she may be doing something she has done for decades??
Who takes prescription pain meds for bronchitis or pneumonia anyway? NO ONE! Remember her nose job? She claimed she didn’t take any pain medication after her surgery because it would compromise her sobriety and everyone believed her. Even Kyle. Now we’re suppose to believe she took ONE pill because of the pain she was in from bronchitis…… There are so many things wrong with that story. One pain pill wouldn’t make her that inebriated. Sorry, not buying it.
As an addict in recovery . I have a year clean and sober on Feb.13th. May I say relapse is par the course for us..It doesnt have to be but it is for many. In the recovery community I see it all the time. It is ok for me if Im ever asked about a relaspe by friends and family. As part of me working an honest program you come to expect to answer that question at least once in your life. People dont trust addicts and when they are acting “off” that distrust is more evident. Hell I got asked that question yesterday because I sent a text that was a bit “off”(it was ment to be a silly text). I took no offense to it and just explained the situation. No harm no foul. And taking a mood altering substance even if it wasnt your DOC( drug of choice) is a relapse! Plain and simple. It was not given to her by a doctor. So hearing people say that they were worried if she would relapse. That in my opinion is a relapse.
All the best to you.
My best to you, Becca. I’m pulling for you. 🙂
becca, really appreciate your post/explanation. woo hoo re one year clean!
Great insight, Becca. Congratulations on your upcoming anniversary, wishing you many more to come!
Becca, the meeting that you receive the one year medallion at will be amazing for you. A wonderful accomplishment. Be proud and remain humble.. I’m pulling for you too.
I totally agree with your assessment, and have the same perspective. I’ve got nine yrs, would’ve been 16 without a relapse. And congrats!
Hang in there, Becca. You’re awesome.
Congrats your recovery and I hope you have many more anniversaries to celebrate!
I don’t get why anyone would like Lisa Rinna as she’s a cold bitch who’s all about the money and herself. Not that she is evil, but just that there doesn’t seem to be the soul of a human behind that disfigured face.
wow. We must be watching different people. And I don’t understand the need to constantly harp of a botched surgery from decades ago. It’s the same issue as Mama Elsa has and only the lowest scumbuckets ridiculed her surgical mishaps.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Well I must be clueless. She has a botched surgery similar to Mama Elsa? I thought she (Lisa) was attractive. I also happen to like her and Eileen. I wonder about people who don’t like the fairly balanced ones, and are attracted to the clearly whacked out ones…
Lisa is gorgeous. But her lips were not intended to be the way they are. She’s had several procedures to try to fix them. Nonetheless, she smiles, is self-deprecating and positive.
Each to their own, I suppose, Tamara. By the way, I do love Mama Elsa and the the enormous strength of her human spirit. She has a great sense of humor. A really wonderful woman that I admire very much.
captain eel, I’m a little confused by your comment. In one of your previous comments on another blog you stated that you basically have no belief nor do you want anyone to try to push their “impossible and nonexistent religious fairy tails” onto you. Yet in the above statement you refer to Lisa’s lack of soul which leads me to conclude that you believe other people do in fact have souls. Forgive me if I am mistaken, but doesn’t the term soul mean the spiritual part of the body that gives life and is believed to live for eternity? Guess I’m just curious how you don’t believe in good and evil and religion of any sort is impossible and nonexistent but in another post you say someone is devoid of a soul but not evil.
Perhaps Captain Eel believes in the divine spirit (which is why I responded to his last post with “Namaste”, indicating that I was honoring the divine spirit in him and then added the snark “assuming he had one” Joke!), but does not believe in notions of heaven or hell. Reincarnation perhaps? Because that’s sort of along the lines of the “Defending Your Life” movie, but he thought that was tripe as well. Perhaps people have souls, but they are extinguished upon death. Hmmm, such a puzzle.
Maybe Mr. Eel meant “sole” as in Louboutins. Or fish. Or Oh Sole Mio.
Certainly not what makes us special and beloved.
She is a cold bitch??? What has she done that was so cold and bitchy to others?
I’m curious how you formed such a strong opinion of Lisa R? You speak as though you know something the rest of the viewing audience doesn’t. On a personal level, maybe? Outside of the “characters” she’s played on television, I’ve only experienced her as compassionate and outgoing, with a funny personality on this show and in the interviews I’ve watched of her. As far as her “disfigured” face, Most people would love to be as beautiful as she is.
KIm demonstrates classic addict behavior. She becomes hostile and punishes anyone who calls her out on her addiction(s). And Kyle demos classic co-dependent behavior. The looks she was giving Kim and chasing her to the bathroom, insisting on her eating pizza – all in an effort to fix and control Kim. I wish Kyle would go to Alanon or get some counseling on how to deal with addicts. I have no doubt her intentions are good, but her actions actually enable Kim and of course enrage her. It’s just sad. And then there’s Brandi. Birds of a feather! Brandi and Kim enable each other by vilifying Kyle like they’re the victims. God, I wish I didn’t know so much about this through personal experience. That’s why they say addiction is a family disease.
Kyle didn’t chase anyone into a bathroom. Kyle went to the bathroom to pull herself together and Kim came banging on the door like a lunatic.
Kyle did not insist Kim eat pizza she offered her a slice and others chimed in offering her food in an attempt to be helpful and hopefully soak up the alcohol or help speed the process of getting whatever she was on calmed down.
Kyle is not the problem in either scenario.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kyle needs Al-Anon big time. Doesn’t mean she’s “the” problem, but from experience, her behavior is not helping Kim or herself overall.
No I don’t think Kyle was the problem. I didn’t express myself very well in that post. I think it’s a very complicated family dynamic with Kyle getting vilified by the addict(s) for trying to be helpful and figuring out what was up with Kim. I think Kyle cares deeply for her sister and becomes panicked and alarmed when Kim seems “off” and it shows. That in turn really seems to piss Kim off. Typical addict behavior!
Lisa R was awesome, now it makes sense why kim was going after her in the limo ride. Kim was glaring at her and being super nasty. Good for lisa to put her in her place. She even went so far as to pretend kim was acting. I know why lisa said kim is always acting. Cuz it’s the truth. That is part of Kims problem, she does what comes naturally, since she started doing it really young. Poor lisa just put a big target on her back, kim will go after her for sure. Done with Kim, she is no longer the actress she once was and now is just kind of sad and messy. Her comment about her dying ex said it all. What about me? Think norma desmond on the staircase scene. What about me? Well kim, what about you? We aren’t waiting, really.
A few of us called it in previous posts. I suspected that when the ladies were getting prepared for filming (getting wired up etc) Rinna became privy to Kim’s state of mind. So it wasn’t so out of the blue when Rinna commented on it. Again, if it were me I would do the same thing. As we see later on Kim can be very aggressive when she is high on drugs. I wouldn’t want to be alone with an addict who is fucked up.
I don’t understand why she has to go to the bathroom all the time, since she took a pill to get high. If you’re snorting something, then yes you need privacy but can someone explain? She’s been doing it the whole time she’s been on the show. Brandi called her on it way back.
Ive been saying kim is addicted to cocaine. It like gives her this alter ego of “Kandy” a spoiled rich 18yo thats a complete brat. She talks and acts like a little girl when shes high. She gets really “mean girls” mean, she acts like shes filthy rich lol. Thats why shes always in the bathroom. Yea sure she used to carry that coffee mug with liqour in it she hardly eats let a lone drinks too much. She probably did take a pill at home and that got her almost there but then did a line at rinnas house to get the most out of her high which caused her to form into the wreck that we saw in the car.
Coke usually makes people happy and talk a lot. So I’ve heard. Not dopey and aggressive.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Yea thats how kim usually is though. Like air heady and just blabbing on. But i think it had a diff affect since it was taken w that other pain pill– hypothetically of course.
Ah, good point, Beau. You’re right now that I think back being coked up would explain some of those silly talking heads of Kim’s !
I think she thought she was being funny/edgy in the car with Lisa R. and most of the ladies at poker (except Kyle…there definitely seemed to be some aggression there). She tends to go to that “naughty” or “raunchy” place when she’s joking around, I think she just lost the ability to tell that she was taking it too far.
I know aggressive coke heads. The drug of choice for 1%ters. They don’t even need to drink to get there, the coke is enough.
Alcohol has no effect when you are on coke. Allegedly. So I read.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Usually, but having worked in restaurants thru college and being around a lot of coke heads, I did know a couple that would get creepily quiet, and a few that would get so amped up they could easily flip to mean. I don’t think Kim did coke that night though. It was opiates. The fact that she was hungry, and slurry, and was aggitated and aggressive is more classic painkillers.
Not when it becomes a problem Tam. Opposite affect. Besides drunks slur, stagger and fall down. Ala Brandi. Apples and oranges.
I think she was chopping up pills and snorting them, oxys most likely since they chop up the easiest and are so much more intense when snorted, allegedly. Kim’s not on coke or meth. She gets that opiate high and combine that with alcohol and she loses her fucking mind.
Ah, thanks. And she did have to get her nose redone so there’s that.
Coke is the drug of choice for 1%ers? Um, drug demographics have wildly changed since the ’80s. Like shall we consider pills? Actually, I’m not going into it any further than to say that is incorrect.
(But I did recently read a Time magazine that broke down drug use by a ton of different factors, so if I get motivated, I can give more specific info.)
@BH Wannabe, I was just using anecdotal evidence from my own personal observations. I wasn’t making a blanket statement about which demographics use which drugs. The people who I know (who have some money) use coke and mix perscription drugs for their high. Calm your tits (or manboobs), someone is extra cranky tonight.
Yes, I appear to be agreeing with you a lot! If I went anecdotal, yep. Coke and Rx pills, usually prescribed but abused. That’s Bern my experience as well.
Oh wait, I didn’t read that you said I might have manboobs? No. I’m skinny with nice, pretty, female boobs.
(And I make an effort to always spell your name correctly…)
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If I ever get a terminal diagnosis. I am going to take up coke. I’m just saying.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think marijuana is a blanket ‘good’ drug for all terminal illnesses. Surely it can’t make it worse. 😉
My partner had a few coke years before I met him. I’m too much of a control freak/boring to do that.
Lisa and Eileen are such a great get for HWs. I am actually watching again. I swore off of all of the housewife shows 2 years ago. I come here to read TT’s witty repartee and I have been able to keep up even though I wasn’t watching.
Peachteacher, good thing you’re watching and not just keeping up via blog. I keep thinking about that Puppy person who thought Kim was taking the dog’s meds/dog was on hospice. Crap, I’m giggling all over again.
Oh Lord, H-Toddy…I am right with you. I break out in a smile and a little giggle whenever I think of Puppyloves post. It was just the right tonic I needed on a stressful day. I wonder if she thinks Monty bit Alexia or if Giggy is Lisa’s husband. LOL.
And Puppylove—if you are reading…I mean no harm. Really—you made me smile. And believe me, if being a little mixed up about the cast of this “reality” show–human or not—was the worse thing that happened in this dangerous world of ours today…well we would all be better off!
Thanks for the smile today P-love and keep on posting!
Where did she go? I hope she isn’t a casualty of the Word Press crap with people being moderated all the damn time.
It’s really getting on my nerves.
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I wish she would update her hair. I love her on the show so far and think she’s a gorgeous woman but that hair is dated.
That’s her signature look, Twilly. She’ll probably keep that short pixie/bob hybrid with highlights until she dies… sort of like Joan Rivers and her blonde bob.
I agree. I can’t imagine Billie, Um I mean Lisa with any other hairstyle.
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Re pain pills – dated a pill addict and learned quite a bit about them (unfortunately). Most of them crush and snort the pills or inject them like heroin. Gives them a faster stronger high. More reason why Kim is disappearing into bathrooms.
Chuyito, Becca, from what I’ve heard you’re both correct. Kim could be in the bathroom crushing up and snorting Oxys. She could also be smoking them thru a straw off a piece of tinfoil. Allegedly .
Or, she could carry around a pipe in her purse. There is a reason she specified that she wasn’t smoking when everyone knew she’d been smoking that cigar. She was talking about smoking something besides tobacco, imo.
Gross.
Thank everyone for the kind words! I spent 90 % of the past 13 years in the restroom. So that does stand out to me. And swallowing pills are not the only way to take them. She very well could be snorting them as well. Pill abuse is very serious I have lost many friends to pills( it wasnt even street drugs that killed them). I feel for Kyle. Living with an addict is allconsuming. My old roomate still talks about how he used to “monitor” me. He even broke down my bathroom door one night. I thought at the time it was an invasion of privacy? he thought I was dead. I cant even imagine the pain that family and friends go through. My sister still doesnt speak to me a year later. But I can understand. I feel like Kyle really loves Kim but is at a loss of what to do. Which is quite understandable.
I think Lisa handled things beautifully, especially in the limo. She knew something was off and did her best to keep Kim happy, but still tried to figure out what is going on, and exhibited concern without exploiting her (as much as you can do in a tv show!). Kyle, though she comes from a good place, I think, really acts emotionally, and is just agitating her. It is so hard to deal with someone who is an addict, especially someone you love, and it seems Kyle needs help in that area.
Can someone please tell me what Lisa is on so I can get some of it. She’s so unbelievably happy all of the time, but I like her. She’s quirky and cute. I felt awful for her in the Limo with Kim and next week looks rough for her with the addicts, but she should take solace in knowing that Kim was just calling her new found BFF a “slut pig” not so long ago.
Kim strikes me as painfully shy. It seems as if her sobriety is easier to maintain when she remains low key and surrounded by close family and friends. Attending social gatherings with new people, high profile people, throw her into a fit of anxiety and she self medicates to cope. Shame. She should just sit out for a season or two. Or quit altogether.