The past two weeks have not brought us many Bravo blogs. I guess even reality whores get the holidays off. But there are two RHOBH blogs that are a bit interesting. They are sort of from two weeks ago and or covering both weeks. It seems that Kyle is unhappy with some of the things she is seeing on the show now with regard to Lisa. And Lisa has a whole lot to say about the rest of them and seems to not be terribly fond of Yolanda.
Kyle’s Point of View:
We see Lisa V. and Ken return from Lisa getting her star in Palm Springs and debating whether or not they should go to Brandi’s housewarming. I can understand their reservations after the drastic turn their friendship took.
Lisa V. and Ken discussed whether or not I had called to congratulate her on her star in Palm Springs. Considering I was never told about it nor invited, that didn’t really make sense. Lisa said last week that she didn’t invite or want any of us there. Yet we are supposed to know and congratulate her? I was actually in Spain during this time and didn’t return until the night before Brooke’s wedding. Moments like this are frustrating and hurtful, because Lisa V. and I are in a good place now. That’s what is difficult about going back six months in time.
Here is what Lisa Vanderpump has to say:
At this point for me to greet each and every person politely was not a problem. I had been frantically busy and preoccupied and now realized how ridiculous it had been. Yes, as Brandi says, I understand it’s a challenge, and you want something you can’t have, but remember, you had it and you threw it away after you trashed it and ran to everyone who would listen.
When Yolanda introduces Eileen Davidson as my friend Eileen, that’s funny. I thought you only just met her and she was Lisa R.’s friend, but I understood the message.
I hadn’t seen Yolanda except only once for lunch. It was a huge ask to expect somebody to give up two days and one I wasn’t comfortable doing. I think it was vaguely suggested to invite Yolanda, but since Puerto Rico, I had hardly seen her. I have many friends a lot closer, and I was reticent to put that pressure on them.
It was a difficult situation for me going back to that group of women at that barbecue and immediately to be cross questioned by Yolanda in a passive aggressive fashion…I am sure many things have transpired since last year, and I haven’t expected to be invited to any of them. As if…it’s almost too funny…I know we haven’t really spoken since
last year, apart from one brief lunch since we started the season, but would you give up two days of your life in 115 degree-heat and make a speech like every one of my friends did who had known me for years? Um no.
They had all been interacting, and I was on the periphery. They were all enjoying time together, but wow, does that change really quickly as personalies clash, lives become entwined, and tempers flare.
I saw Ken’s reticence to engage Brandi, then her saying, “Remember me? You used to love me…” is too funny. Yes he remembers, oh so well…how he would defend her to his detriment. Ken has a similar perspective to me–fiercely loyal to friends, but when they calculatedly try to destroy you, civility is maybe the best you can hope for.
I thought it was a bitchy comment from Kyle saying I hold a grudge. I feel just to engage with many of these women at all shows that I don’t, but I am not stupid enough to erase the past. I have the knowledge, and that is what protects me.
This season really gets started next week when all the relationships start finding different levels and opinions differ, some friendships are strengthened and others, well….
Sorry, but I see Lisa’s point of view. I would be very cautious, too, if all my friends ambushed me the way they did to her in Puerto Rico. True friends may have disagreements, but they don’t stab you in the back, then expect YOU to apologize for stealing their knife.
If i had an issue with a friend, then went on a trip with them and before I could bring up my issue four other people started having a go at that friend, I would put aside my issue and console/defend my friend. I wouldn’t gang up or compound the issue by bringing it up then, just as all the ladies did to Lisa.
When WWHL did the poll about whether Lisa and Kyle’s truce would last. Both of them took to Twitter and went strong against detractors vowing that it would last. From interviews and the first blog, it seems like they had a more in depth promise with each other to call one another first if they ever felt any type of way or felt like someone trying to drive a wedge. I believe they have a friendship that is true & that’s why they always come back to each other. It seems like being on a show has done more harm than good since they are privy to what the other says behind their backs.
I feel another fall out is on it’s way because both are sensitive about what the other says. Kyle is hurt by the Palm Springs commentary although Lisa did try to shut Ken up about making the insinuation. Then LVP is annoyed by the ‘grudge’ commentary and Kyle is still showing that she won’t defend her. Like Kim said last reunion that Kyle has a special love for Lisa more than any of the other women. I think Kyle is the only relationship that Lisa cares about salvaging…she could do without the other women. I just hope they don’t allow petty stuff like this to constantly come in between them & stick to their word.
I dont know why i care, but i really want them to stay friends
Their ‘alliance’ is due to mutual hate for Brandi I suspect. Brandi physically shoves/hits both of them this season. Also with Kyle’s blogs/interviews it appears she is hinting about ending the season on a bad note with Brandi, same as Lisa V will.
I totally agree with CAT above, why should Lisa V say I’m sorry. For what? Kyle still tries to antagonize Lisa V. in any way she can. In very snide ways, and wonders what did I say. Lisa V can be friends with Kyle, that is her business, but she needs to keep both eyes and ears on the alert!!!!!!
As far as Brandi wanting to make up with Lisa and Ken I don’t think that will happen. At least I hope not. You know as well as I do that Brandi will barb Lisa and Ken the next chance she gets. Brandi’s mom said , she says things but she really doesn’t mean it. Then SHUT your nasty mouth Brandi and don’t say it. Brandi acts like she’s 4 years old with no sense of anything, and a mouth that needs a bar of soap. Brandi feels she can say and do anything she feels like to anyone she feels like, then say oh I’m so sorry and get away with and act like this shy little thing. That gets old real fast.
Ugh, so true! She hits HARD below the belt in response to any perceived hurt or rejection, then when she’s done throwing her tantrum, she breaks out her little girl voice and expects and be completely forgiven like a spoiled child. It drives me batty that she keeps saying in talking heads that she is genuinely sorry…what is she sorry for? I would love to hear a meaningful apology from her explaining that she was in a dark place, knows she went too far, would never handle the situation that way again…something that shows she is actually remorseful and has learned from the experience…without being followed up immediately by “but she hurt me too, it goes both ways.” What reason does Lisa have to think she wouldn’t just do it again if given the chance? No one wants a friend who is so quick to cut your throat if you fail to meet their expectations fully in any way.
One question and one answer: If it is hard to go back 6 months in time Kyle, then why do it? Lisa, the answer is yes Yolanda would give up two days of her time in 115 degree weather if it meant more air time and she could pretend to be the perfect friend for the cameras!
Teehee. A couple of episodes ago I thought I could like Yolanda this season. How wrong I was.
Oh, I’ve been meaning to ask you Micheal, did you get your full of Brandi this week? I know you were a pint down last week!
I need to be drunk to watch the Brandi scenes. The only way I can avoid throwing the remote at the screen. Well, more like when I throw it I miss.
Brandi’s cutline that introduces each episode– which says “I get what I want and don’t care who I climb on to get it” (or whatever the words are) — absolutely reflect her maturity level.
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Last season all the others could say was “Lisa can’t admit when she’s wrong” — even though Lisa said more than once she was wrong and/or didn’t know and/or she was sorry at the reunion. This season all the others can say is “Lisa holds a grudge.” Well, just like with not understanding what it means to admit one is wrong, these illiterates don’t know what it means to hold a grudge. Holding a grudge means to harbor ill will or resentment against another. That isn’t the same thing as being wary about people who just fucked you over. Lisa’s interaction with them is more akin to “once bitten, twice shy” not “holding a grudge.”
And of course Kyle is hurt about Ken’s comment to Lisa — Kyle is always offended by anything the least bit negative that anyone, but especially Lisa, says about her and she’l harp on it *forever.* Meanwhile, she can say that Lisa “preys on the weak” and that “being friends with her is like playing chess with Bobby Fischer” but *Lisa* is one the holding a grudge if she says she’s hurt by those comments. Kyle is reminding me why I don’t like her — passive-aggressiveness and projection are standard operating procedure for her.
Preach!
You captured my thoughts perfectly!
Lisa V bores me to tears. Absolutely insufferable in her self-absorption. I know it is not a popular opinion, but I think Lisa V has a meeting scheduled one day with a form of karma (aka swift kick in the ass) — might shake that stick loose.
Could not agree with you more and so hope RHBH is still around to catch it all on film.
Did you not follow my court news on Lisa? She already did. 🙂
I understand if my detailed knowledge of legal proceedings is over your head, but I did try to dumb it down.
/ducks and runs.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I wonder if Andy will mention it at the reunion. Goes to show her pull on the show how absolutely nothing concerning the court cases made it to air.
When are they going to award attorneys fees to the plaintiff? I noticed the appeal was dismissed for failure to lodge the record. I guess Lisa and Ken didn’t have such a strong case after all. One down more to come.
Kyle is trashy and narcississtic and Lisa is elegant and involved in her community. Plus Lisa is smart and Kyle is not. I am so tired of Kyle’s mean-spirited antics.
Did you forget the very generous donation and other activities the Umanskys gave tot the Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles? Great to be involved on the community when you are selling $12 dollar drinks.
I can’t think of anything more repulsive than Ken and Lisa going after a friend’s business reputation for sport. That is mean spirited, calculated and manipulative.
Ive been watchen since brandi started.felt so bad for her.kim&kyle were so freaking mean.now brandys gone to far.lisa i like alot.think kim is better then past.but vyle kyle is gross, her hubby thinks hes the hottest.ewwww &her youngest child is a spoiled brat.
I’m not sure if you got through a hole in the fence or are celebrating NYE so… pass.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Did anyone catch at the party when Marucio showed up and Kyle sounded surprised? It kind of happened off camera a bit but you heard them through their mics. It was a bit weird…
I have noticed too Mauricio seems almost annoyed by Kyle this season. His conversation with her seems to be bordering on snide and disdain and its as if we are just missing the eye rolls. It just seems like behavior a fighting couple would have that wanted to pretend like they were happy in front of the children (or the cameras).
Interesting that Kyle insists that Lisa holds grudges, though recall that Kyle was almost apoplectic after Lisa tried to lift Kyle’s mood related to ongoing rumors about Mauricio’s serial cheating after Kyle mentioned that little Portia had been out with her daddy doing chores, and Lisa attempted to raise Kyle’s Spirits by suggesting that little Portia was reported as the other young woman by the tabloids. Based on Kyle’s histrionics, one would have thought that Lisa ate babies and drop-kicked puppies. Lisa explained that she tried to make light of what she viewed as ridiculous allegations in deference of the pending party…and Kyle refused to see her friend’s humor in it, and continued take offense to explain to anyone who would listen. However, Kyle continued to blame Lisa up to and through the Reunion. THAT IS A GRUDGE. In regard to Lisa’s attitude, she remembers who did what to her, who ganged up with whom to attack her, and if an ‘apology’ was offered, if it actually was an apology, or a carefully worded explanation/excuse for attacking her and regrets that LVP caused her to attack LVP.
This time around, aware of how fond the returning cast is of her, LVP will be kind whenever she encounters kindness and loyal to those who exhibit the same, though anyone who delivers anything less than kindness and loyalty will be received with cool stiff armed formality. Lisa’s distance to cast members with the exception of Lisa R and Kelly is fair and very appropriate to their deeds.
LOL…ate babies and drop-kicked puppies. So true, I couldn’t believe the overreaction to “tabloid gate!” How many times did she and Mauricio bring that up? It was clearly a joke, all she can do is avoid joking about it in the future but Kyle kept demanding a “real” apology acting like Lisa was trying to push them toward a divorce. I wonder what Kyle thinks a real apology sounds like? Apparently “I meant no offense and I’m sorry if my humor offended you and I won’t joke about that topic again” doesn’t cut it.
LVP has been so careful and non-engaging with each of the other housewives, they are going to be hard pressed trying to defend their catty behavior and passive agressive attitude in their interviews towards LVP this season. LVP has barely engaged so if they still try the “grudge” nonsense at the reunion they will look even sillier. I’m thinking there are multiple phone calls between the bunch trying to figure out how to fix this, again.
Thanks, hokiechick. Personally, I thought that Lisa’s joke about Portia being the other woman was not only humorous, but it also was a dig about how tabloids will make mountains out of mole hills to fit their story line; totally empathetic of Kyle on two levels. But, let’s put that aside just for a moment,
dummy-down and agree only for the sake of argument, that Lisa’s cute joke was a clunker. Kyle AS LISA’S FRIEND, still should have thanked Lisa for trying to make her feel better, and should have added that she did feel better because Lisa tried.
Lisa’s good humor taken as bad humor isn’t Kyle’s problem. The crux of Kyle’s problem is KYLE being a needy, humorless, spoiled rotten, insufferable treacherous bitch to such an extent that Kyle being a needy, humorless, spoiled rotten, insufferable treacherous bitch prevents her from exercising any form of self-awareness, or insight enough to facilitate self-correction.
Kyle behaves like a dumb puppy that reacts as if what she sees in the mirror is not her, but another bigger dog, which is needy and humorless, spoiled rotten, insufferable treacherous bitch. Kyle behaves as a needy, dumb treacherous bitch puppy.
For all that Kyle has; a beautiful family, a generous provider husband, who seems vested in their marriage, and a beautiful home, luxurious vacations, and material things beyond what most women would consider wanting, yet Kyle still cannot have Lisa’s friendship, because of her self-absorbed, intolerant mean girl tactics, which pretty clearly repulse Lisa.
I think both of them are overly sensitive to things said about them, yet they both dish a little shade here and there. Neither comment was bitchy enough to even mention in their respective blogs. LuAnne and Cynthia are the only housewives I think that don’t keep an exact count of every damn little slight but just use averages.
I think Kyle and Lisa make a great duo, but unfortunately Lisa’s popularity from the show has caused jealousy that tainted the relationship. I love Kyle but she plays mean girl games and it ruins her.
I’m 100% on team Lisa V. Suddenly Yolanda wants to be besties with her and is butt kissing her when she was never there for her? Yolanda is so fake and insecure. Brandi is exactly where she belongs…on the outside looking in. She is a mean girl. I do hope that Kyle and Lisa V. continues as friends and become stronger together. They really fit well together and can have a dynamic friendship. Love love love Eileen Davidson and Lisa Rinna as new additions this season. So much better than that witch chick and the latina.
I would never be fully “cool” with Kyle again. In the first season of RHOBH, Kyle revealed how much she “valued” her friendship with Lisa when she began to exclude(pull away from) her good friend Lisa opting to gravitate to phony azz Taylor instead. My take is that Kyle had some deep seeded jealousy towards Lisa and she was also intimidated by Lisa (i.e. lifestyle, wealth, intelligence, confidence etc.), so when she met Taylor who was clearly trying very hard to be both Kyle and Adrienne’s friend, Kyle jumped at the opportunity to have a follower, who.was enamored by her wealth and lifestyl. Taylor played the perfect.role and she strategically enjoyed witnessing the subtle demise of Kyle and Lisa’s friendship; that it, until she decided that she wanted Lisa to be her friend and benefactor.
Kyle and Yolanda are so passive agressive. Neither one of them like Lisa because Lisa imitidates them with all.of.the qualities/things I forementioned. They are.quite jealous of Lisa. And Brandy is so low down, if I were Lisa, I would NEVER even entertain the possibility of a friendship.with Brandy again. Brandy is one ignorant, Insecure, jealous, coveting, desperate, manipulative, lying, ugly, skanky, dirty piece of trash. She is the quimtessential BiYUcH .
I hope Lisa never allows those three women into her close inner circle again. Their deceipt has been documented on this show. Therefore, Lisa would be a fool to ever consider any of them as a true friend again.
Nuff said!! I feel exactly the same way about those three mutts!
Once again, Lisa can’t take criticism and own up to it. What Kyle said was true, Lisa does hold a grudge. She was being cheeky about it.
On the other hand, what Lisa insinuated about the other ladies, SPECIFICALLY Kyle, was simply not true and manipulative. How do you not invite someone, but then expect congratulations at the same time when people don’t even know what’s going on in your life? Classic chess move by Bobby Fischer.
That being said, Lisa and Kyle do care for one another, and I think they’ll get through it. They just have to communicate and realize that these comments are the PAST, not how they feel about each other now.