You guys know I am kind of obsessed with you and sometimes I just want to ask you things without having to do a whole lot of backstory. So I am starting a new thing that might be reoccurring depending on participation.
Ya’ll know I have a tendency to get a bit crazy. I’m actually on a short visit to crazyland at the moment. So I need y’all to tell me if I am overreacting. So here goes…
Miley Cyrus has been at Art Basel in Miami this week. She seems to be pretty erratic lately. And I realize that TMZ just posted a photo of Usher charging his phone from a woman’s vagina. Because, art? But… to me Miley seems to have been going off the rails for a while.
So my question is, “Should I be worried about Miley going all Amanda Bynes or Lindsay Lohan crazy? or nah?”
Thanks in advance.
P.S. Bonus points for clicking on the TMZ link and weighing in on the vaginal phone charging. TIA.
Yes, you should be worried. And ewwww…
Why would anyone worry though?theres no reason given.
Miley Cyrus going down the Britney Spears road???
No way. NEVER going to happen.
First off Britney has mental issues. Like real deal serious mental issues. Miley doesn’t. Miley has a VERY strong sense of self, she’s smarter, savvy, has a momager who actually has her best interest at heart ALL unlike Britney, well, at least until her father stepped up. But it was already way too late for Britney by then!
Miley is a COMPLETELY different person in private than she is on stage, and also..ummm, nobody is drugging Miley like Adnan was with Britney. Miley does drugs recreationally not on drugs 24/7 like Britney was.
As for Amanda Bynes, she’s a raging bitch with 12 personalities.
The only thing these girls have in common is that they were all child stars. That’s where it ends.
Melissa, Miley is at the age where mental illness tends to bloom. That’s the concern. Some of us are just holding our breath and crossing our fingers for her.
Your posts makes a lot of assumptions about Miley’s private life that I don’t think you have anything to base them on.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’d be concerned if that were Miley charging phones with her vagina. I think Miley is most likely spoiled and wants to keep attracting attention. After all, she has to compete with the Kartrashions and everyone else.
That woman at Art Basel in Miami is a nut case.
First time commenting because I think this is a great idea 🙂
I think Miley is just going through a weird stage lol. I actually had to unfollow her on Instagram because she’s just doing strange stuff.
As for the vaginal charging.. At least you’ll save money on your Electricity bill
I feel like Miley is more into getting attention and ‘sowing her wild oats’ more than anything else, making sure everyone knows she’s grown now, and not Hannah Montana. Amanda Bynes has legitimate legal problems, while Lindsay just has addiction issues, and Lohan’s for parents. What they all have in common is enough money to do whatever they want, with no one to discipline them or tell them no, you don’t want to piss off your meal ticket.
As for Usher, I’m not surprised that he, nor anyone else would pay to see the idiot doing this. I fail to see how this adequately reflects society’s dependence on technology.
Side note, how long until Atl strip clubs begin to offer this service? Charge your phone whilst getting a lap dance. $20 extra. Lol
*mental, not legal. But she had those too, I guess.
I agree with redhotmama. Miley believes she’s very calculated and more mature than she actually is. Which one of us didn’t at her age?
Amanda truly has psychological issues. Unless Miley’s drug use triggers mental/chemical problems, she’s fine.
I also believe her new ‘boyfriend’ and ‘balcony smoking’ were arranged by her team.
Agreed. Miley likes attention. In 5 years she’ll realize what an embarrassment she’s been to herself.
Embarrassment?
That’s what the squares said about Madonna too but look at her now…coming up on billionaire status. A woman in control of her entire empire from top to bottom. I think with proper (continued) guidance, Miley Cyrus has the potential to enjoy a very very long successful career. And she’s got one up on Madonna…she can actually SING. Her voice is beautiful. Listen to her and just close your eyes, forget what you’re seeing and just LISTEN. Her voice is beautiful.
I really like Miley. She was in a cute made for TV movie once and I thought she was great. I’m hoping this is just regular 20 something behavior with lots of money to amp it up a few notches.
Maybe Lohan, but I do not see (yet?) any manifestation in Miley that would lead me to believe she has Bynes-like organic brain problems.
You should see the things I worry about…
Lindsay is in deeper trouble than Miley, I think. Miley knows acting bratty and outrageous sells for her right now, but I don’t think she’s actually off the deep end like Amanda Bynes, poor soul.
And hell there are days I much rather worry about others than my own (tedious) crap haha
Usher? He doesn’t seem exactly hubba hubba over this chick charging his phone (god i hope she used some kind of protection because UTI)
Would not surprise me at all if she ends up with issues if she doesn’t get a grip sooner rather than later.
I think I sort of compare it to Brittney Spears……I think common denominator is that both their hearts were broken by boyfriends.
PS – just a tad bit pissy with myself for taking you up on your suggestion and clicking the link…..still puking
sorry! I warned you!
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Lol Mrs Smith I did the damn thing and clicked on link
Dear Mrs Smith
“Getting a grip” is not something people with a severe mental illness (aka Bynes ) or an active addiction (ala Lohan) can do.
Thus my question, can she just get a grip? As you say or is there a big issue here?
I knew bringing this up would make me angry, and yet I did it.
Britnany, Amanda and Lindsa all have a diagnosable illness. I am really starting to wonder about Miley. It’s about the time things start to flourish… I really want you all to tell me she is acting like a normal (however old she is, I honestly don’t pay attn.) person…
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Honestly I think Miley is having fun, in a club kid kind of way. As a relic of club kidom myself it looks very familiar. She likes to party and be outrageous and thumb her nose at the grownups, but I don’t think she’s breaking down. I hope not.
Thanks.
I have been thinking the same. But I just wanted to check in. It is starting to worry me.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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She is doing way too many drugs, if she has any underlying medical issues….not sure. I do not think she would be able to maintain a manic phase this long without crashing. She is a very vocal advocate of molly, which unless she has her own personal chemist supplying her, is a crap shoot of chemicals. She is a fool if she thinks that regular use of the mind altering chemicals is harmless but for now I just think she is indulged and ignorant, her parents are pathetic if they do not have a problem with her doing it and worse advocating it in interviews.
I think she is “normal” for her – considering she is a spoiled brat and has been since Hannah Montana which I was forced to watch w/ my step daughter. She always seemed affected & full of herself. I don’t know anything about the Art Basel thing, but if she is “allowed” to date Patrick Schwarzenegger by Mama Bear Maria Shriver she must be not clinically diagnosable and just a Hollywood brat. 🙂 p.s. I have had panic disorder since I was 14 – 35 years, and since 1999 I found the right Dr. & got my life back. So I feel ya!
If you are speaking of Liam, he isn’t in the wrong. He dumped her after that stupid performance with the sleezy old guy. I think that is fair.
I’ll have to pass on the points even though I only have 7
I think Miley is going the brittney spears way
I’m kinda worried. O.O
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I worry about Miley too..
And WTF!!!
After I clicked the link and saw the vag charger I forgot every other thing you wrote about and I HAD TO COMMENT. I swear I DID NOT ACTUALLY EXPECT TO SEE USHER VAGINALLY CHARGING HIS PHONE! I don’t know what I expected to see, not that though. I guess Usher couldn’t resist seeing some shit he hasn’t seen before either…and I KNOW he’s seen a lot. Oh my oh my. Why stop at the vag why not do an asshole charger…oh wait that’s waaay to vulgar to be art! SMDH WTF! Uugh…
THis is why I sometimes just have questions… and no answers..
No worries, it’s not as though he was putting the phone itself in there. It was Only the charger he had to connect to his port. Easy peasy. No sanitizer necessary.
The vagina lady should get together with Shia La Buff, he was doing the nude art thing too…
Shia’s performance art piece was not done nude. He was dressed in a tuxedo with a paper bag on his head with “I am no longer famous” printed on it. It was a passive piece, in a closed room and he was to remain silent. And he did. Even while he was allegedly raped during one woman’s participation. Weird. To borrow TT’s phrase,. Because Shia.
Funny I have wondered that same thing for awhile…..her trend doesn’t seem to be changing
Your consistent tendency to side with crazy people and back them up without reason equates to black people who side with Brown just because he is black. It makes no logical sense. And it’s sometimes infuriating. **cough*aviva**cough.cough**
That said, I really hate the tendency that tmz has to exploit and laugh at people who are obviously having psycho breaks. The latest was the Creed guy.
by crazy people who do you mean. I AM HERE, A CRAZY PERSON, ASKING YOU, A SANE PERSON, to identify who is crazy…how hard is that?
Long time lurker – first time poster. T.T you’re empathetic and I believe this would be a better world if people would educate themselves about mental illness and practice more empathy. Plus the pressures of money, fame and often being the breadwinner at such a young age must be very difficult. Take care of yourself TT and everyone out there… The holidays can be really difficult for many (I speak from experience) and thanks for the your blog – it really brightens my day! Oh and TMZ with the exploitation totally pisses me off too.
I don’t know. But you have to separate bad behavior from crazy. Not all people who are crazy exhibit bad behavior. Not all people who behave badly are crazy. Bad behavior is what it is. And it’s fault. If Amanda Bynes stayed on her meds, she would probably be fine. But she is a brat who chooses not to be fine. You will argue that she has no choice and is compelled. I will argue that your flat out dumbassed wrong. Wash rinse repeat.
” If Amanda Bynes stayed on her meds, she would probably be fine. But she is a brat who chooses not to be fine.”
You have NO idea what you’re talking about. And I really don’t mean in it a “lets rally and defend the mentally ill” pretense — I mean it more in a “you’re fucking dumb” sort of way.
And whats that about wild, crazy assumptions? I guess you gave that up pretty quickly, and now you just happen to be there every time Amanda Bynes tongues her pills during her mouth check?
If only she would just accept theres a magic pill out there, somewhere, somehow, that makes everything just fine and peachy. But dammit, she just REFUSES to take it. Such a little brat, indeed.
In about 1/3 of patients who suffer from schizophrenia and many who suffer from Bipolar 1 also suffer from a condition known as anosognosia. What this means is that the schizophrenia attacks the part of the brain that makes you capable of insight into your disease. These patients can’t ” get it” that they are sick even while on meds. So, they tend to go off meds and be non-compliant. It’s not really a type of denial. It’s a delusion because their brain is being attacked in that area by the disease. It is a condition that is horribly frustrating for treatment providers and caregivers because we don’t have much to work with to fix it.
Further, mental illness is a defect. It’s not my fault it is. But it is. Being crazy doesn’t make you more. It makes you less. Just like any birth defect or illness. Making being critical of crazy people out of bounds is retarded.
Well, to be perfectly honest, THEY get PAID to act crazy. Unfortunately, you do not.
Nah, I think she’s fine. TT, you and I had discussed this about Amanda Bynes and I think it rings true for Miley – they’re famous so anything they do is fodder for the entire world.
She’s either just turned or is about to be 21. Miley’s not doing anything differently than I did when I was her age, except I was able to party on South Beach in blissful anonymity.
I’m quite sure we did not have a convo about Amanda. I regret bringing her into this conversation. I did so because she is CLEARLY mentally ill . if you don’t get that, please refrain from commenting or I will turn off comments.
I am asking a VERY serious question. and 21 is the beginning of when it happens for people with major mental health issues. If you think Amanda is “just fine” please stop commenting in this forum or I will block you. Just pick another post.
Obviously I should not have asked about this here.
Amanda’s behavior has not been merely cute or shocking or eccentric. It’s been troubling, bizarre, and potentially dangerous. That poor girl is sick. I have one bipolar sister. Periodically she dumps the meds, overspends, gets promiscuous,self-medicates, then crashes and burns. Back to a hospital. Or she’s stayed on her meds and then had an underlying thyroid condition that caused an imbalance again. We wish it was cut and dried and just brattiness. So does her child who struggles to understand why his mom acts this way. I’m sure I’ve filled a comment quota .. Cheers, TT
This is why I love you TT!!! Mental illness is not something that a fun and easy conversation over coffee between moms and after 30 minutes find a solution kind of thing. It is heartbreaking and ….
Saw…by accident…on wwhl a shot of Miley’s ass …close up with her labia hanging out of her shorts. EEEEUUUW…YUCK!!!! NOT “youthful”…not even sexy. Cher said her act was “sloppy and unprofessional.” I whole-heartedly agree!
As for the “art?” Supposed to reflect society. I’m sorry for us. Is Miley just being “arty”? I think she thinks she is. But….sloppy and unprofessional.
Wonder how much charger va_j_j.made at $20 a pop.
If Miley is ‘arty’ then Lady Gaga is ‘demure’. 😀
The latest South Park episode makes light of the issue that female singers now are used for their shock value and ability to trend on social media platforms so as to drive revenue through advertisements. It’s no longer completely about talent and record sales. Sad really.
Miley does not have Amanda issues. Amanda has a medical condition. I don’t think Miley has a drug problem yet, but like Lindsay she has parent issues. IMO Miley is trying to be the Madonna of her generation. Pushing sexual and social boundaries. Madonna was a master at this. Miley is not!
Unfortunately, Miley is coming across as tacky and a little whacko. One day she may find herself wondering why no one takes her seriously. Luckily she has all those Hannah bucks to cushion her fall!
I agree with your assessment of Miley trying to be the Madonna of her generation. Unfortunately, she comes across more like a RHOBH Brandi Glanville, with a bigger stage and an equally bad case of don’t know when to quititis.
TT,
first time poster, loooooove the tea, company and personal anecdotes. keep up the great work.
Yes in regards to substance abuse. I just recently unfollowed her on instagram (why was I following MC to begin with??), and she posts the weirdest most random things at 3 am.
Amanda Bynes makes me so sad. Like when Britney shaved her head. That was just awful.
Thank you for understanding my concern.
Although if you check my twitter feed at any late night hour… you could diagnose me the same way.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I decided to catch up on your blog after another bout of my own issues kept me away for a couple of weeks and ironically I was discussing the subject of marijuana/THC in relation to schizophrenia this evening w/my 17, 19 and 21 yr old children and I brought up Amanda Bynes. My heart breaks for her. I completely understand your question and concern about Miley Cyrus in relation to Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes. It is exactly the right age when schizophrenia surfaces and none of us know what the trigger is for each individual person or if they are predisposed to it somehow. But I told my kids if something like THC increases the likelihood by ANY percentage, I pray they don’t ever take that risk (even if it is legalized in our state at some point). Armed w/that knowledge, why take that chance? I have no knowledge of Amanda Bynes’ prior history of drug use, or Britney’s for that matter, but Miley’s has been well documented and it’s scary to think she might end up struggling w/any type of mental illness bc of it. It’s just so sad to me. I really don’t know what to think. But… the only reason I decided to post something (10 days later) is to let you know it warmed my heart to hear, not only of your concern for her/them, but also to read how passionately you defended Amanda and anyone else w/mental health issues. We may not have the answers but we have a voice and I for one, respect how you use yours.
Britney Spears? She was going through a major divorce from a man she clearly loved and her kids were being taken away..rightfully so but still as a mother that is very hard to accept…a feeling I can only imagine cuz I know I’d be ready to kill! Can you imagine all that anger all that disappointment…that’s why she shaved her head and had that mental breakdown. I knew what Britney was going through was a phase and that she would get through it. Amanda Bynes…not a phase.
So Britney just had a mental break but Bynnes has a mental illness? Yeah that makes sense to me. I just hope they all get better. TMZ using their public breakdowns as a method to generate revenue is kind of digusting.
People going through a “phase” don’t normally require a conservatorship….
Which they remain under to this day.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Please don’t take this the wrong way, there is no other way to put it. The only thing you should be worried about is the fact that you are actually worried about Miley.
I always wonder if drugs lead to mental illness, if mentally ill people self-medicate with drugs, or if it’s both. If they start young enough, I feel like it can lead to mental illness. I read a study that said there’s a link between teens who smoke marijuana and getting Schizophrenia. It obviously doesn’t happen to everyone, but there’s a higher incidence. I think Miley may be heading down that road with all the crap she’s done at such a young age.
Thank you, Tamara. You just gave me a great idea for a project at school!
As someone with a double masters in education and psychology I can assure you that smoking pot does not lead to schizophrenia. That’s ridiculous.
As someone who suffers from Anxiety disorder I can tell you that self medication is a frequent occurrence, a bottle of wine or so does help.
But my personal insanity is due to hormonal imbalances. It’s frustrating. You feel fine and then you don’t. It will pass eventually.
But bipolar, personality disorders, and schizophrenia and all sort of other things… develop in one’s 20’s … It’s all treatable. Britanny has hers under control now.
I’m legit asking about Miley.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Pot doesn’t lead to schizophrenia, but isn’t their a scientific study that shows it exacerbates the illness? I can’t completely remember sadly.
You’re right Tamara. It is ridiculous. Pot, if anything negative is that it increases appetite , also some people do feel side effects of paranoia.
Amanda Bynes is mentally ill and I hope she gets the treatment she needs and sticks with it. Lindsay Lohan has addiction issues and quite possibly one of the worst families ever. Miley is doing her I’m wild in my 20s thing and will settle down. I just don’t see her heading down the path of the other two, but you never know when a mental illness might rear its head. Let’s hope it doesn’t. To her credit, she has done a remarkable job of transforming herself from Hannah Montana to young adult celebrity. And, she truly has a lovely voice.
Actually, TT in regards to pot, I have treated some patients who have become psychotic from smoking it. Pot has changed over the past few years. Street weed now has about 7 times the amount of THC that is necessary to get high. We don’t know if THC at this level is in and of itself psychosis inducing or if it activates a latent schizophrenic gene. The super strong weed comes from Canada and neuroscientists are studying it. What’s really sad is the psychosis doesn’t remit fully even with a patient who is meds compliant.
Yes Michael you are correct, the studies are quite prevalent regarding Schizophrenia. Marijuana exasperates many underlying mental illnesses, most commonly depression and anxiety — most longer term marijuana users will tell you the high from when they first started smoking, to the high they experience now, are drastically different; notable difference being an extreme hyper awareness and self consciousness that leads to paranoia and anxiety. Of course it’s a complex relationship, depending both on the strain of marijuana and the varying types of anxiety, but its incredibly common for weed to cause full on panic attacks, which opens the door for frequent anxiety.
Yes, on the studies confirming marijuana exacerbates schizophrenia. I’ve read a few peer reviewed studies confirming this. My bff of nearly 50 years son is an example of this. Twenty-one was the magic age for him too when it became full-blown, but was showing some signs initially around 16. Treatable yes, but never returned to the same intelligent, extremely talented artist, thoughtful, wonderful person with so much hope and promise. You know, meds work until they don’t and you go to square one again.
I have thought for a while that Miley is in trouble, just waiting for it to cross the line. I’d like to think she’s just feeling her oats and all of this is part of some grand plan to keep her career moving forward, but I don’t believe it. Sorry. We wait and see. I hope I’m wrong.
I was done with Miley the day my boy Liam ditched her. I love you Liam! Call me, you left your js here.
I’ve been wondering about Miley too. It is difficult to tell from the distance we are viewing her whether there is a serious underlying issue going on or if she is doing the “club kid” thing (as another poster accurately described the stage a lot of young adults go through — I did it myself, but in my day we called it “sowing our wild oats”). I kind of lean toward she’s doing the club kid/sowing her wild oats thing (albeit on a larger stage than usual) because she does seem lucid most of the time, and if it there was an underlying issue, I don’t think that would be the case. Although, again, without personally interacting with her, I don’t think we’ll know for sure until she either (1) grows out of it (proving it’s just a wild period) or (2) does something akin to the Amanda Bynes lighting stuff on fire/Brittney Spears umbrella incident (proving there’s an underlying issue).
PS — I clicked on the link — I hate to sound like an old fogey, but dayum, if this is what is passing for “art” these days, the world has done lost its mind.
I think Miley is OK, just sowing her oats and putting out an image.n I don’t believe she has Amanda or Lohan issues at this point. That being said, I do believe she needs to keep a check on the Partying so it doesn’t go down Lohan Ave. I worry about all the young stars with so much money so soon who don’t have someone to tell them…hey. You are being a jack ass the way most folks do.
Usher is trying to stay relevant and this is not a good look for him. Miley is not mentally ill like Amanda or Lindsey. At times, she just does what she thinks the public expects from her (like Cher) and at other times she does things to shock the world (like Madonna). She does need to take a timeout from the business, slow her roll, and stop being provocative. She has smashed the Hannah Montana image, and now she needs to find a balanced way to live a private life while remaining in the public eye.
all three of these young women are very talented, and they all became famous at a pretty young age. now, being famous and having paparazzi following your every move and people who may or may not be true friends giving supposed inside information to the press can create a ton of stress. if you have someone who already is predisposed to a mental issue/illness then i am sure it would be that much more magnified. i think lohan has serious addiction issues and when you add a ton of money and total family dysfunction to that you have a mess. amanda bynes has a very serious mental illness and needs help and needs to stop trying to think she is fine. i have no idea how that will come about but i feel for her and her family as it seems that they really want to help her. now onto miley, i think she is just acting out, she was thrust into the spotlight by her father who has talent but not like she does. she was this disney princes like brittney and i feel like she is trying to evercome the good girl image. i think she is sowing her oats and may be pushing to envelope to see just when someone will finally try and straighten her ass out. i don’t think she is a train wreck, i think she has a bit more bumps to get over and then will be fine
It’s my belief that Miley is decompensating. I’m not a medical professional but it’s way passed the shock value stage. I was of the opinion that she was staging all her antics to boost album sales and name recognition, at that time it may have been true but now it’s negligible. If you look at her last 3 yrs, you can see the CONSISTENT decline. Like I’ve mentioned before I’m not a doctor but what I’m is very logical, and when their’s no reason to the rhyme then it’s most likely psychological.
I’m the first to admit that I’m not an artist so maybe I’m not gifted enough to see the art in using your vagina as a cell phone charger, and guess what, I’m thoroughly ok with that!!!!
Please define the word decompensating, I tried and came up with {take away, less, minus} and then compensate, which does not make sense within this context to me. I am interested because this may be the word that best fits many kids and young celebrities today. I just want to make sure I understand the defination. I see so many kids trying to go beyond Madonna and the MTV’s shock value to a place beyond where “I have seen it and heard this before in other generations” such as homosexuality for fun, nudity because “it’s your problem that you even noticed I striped down”, and RESPECT for others is not a given or obligatory, and it is to the point that it is insulting THAT it is even expected because it could impede ones search for freedom.
I wonder if publicists strategize in behind closed door meetings with their celebrity clients to come up with stupid and bad behavior stunts/campaigns to capitalize on the “bad publicity is better than no publicity” mentality. I just have to wonder oftentimes if thats really what’s up with Miley and why she’s always acting a fool. Otherwise, why in the world would she want to continue to be so embarrassing to herself? I mean even if she has an undiagnosed mental illness, after 4 or 5 times of suffering such embarrassment and backlash she’d at least stay behind closed doors more often. But no, she continues and continues to pull the stunts. I really believe the stunts are calculatingly purposeful.
Tamara, I have wondered myself about Miley’s behavior. It seems to be more extreme as time goes on. I hope I am wrong but she seems to be spinning out of control.
I actually JUST saw the pic on twitter. We are talking about Miley looking like a silver cracked out lil kim right? No you should be worried… I mean, if you’re the type to worry about miley cyrus.
I just looked up the image of Miley in the tinsel wig…okay I didn’t realize she was at an Art convention…I’m less worried. Basically now i’m just waiting to worry later.
I just wish she’d brush her f*cking tongue. There appears to be a layer of Crusty McNastiness on it.
One way I look at it is whether the person has control of herself (yes/no), and if no, is there also a danger to others as well as herself. I’m not following Miley enough to know the former, but I’ve not read about issues with her and the latter (at least, not recently). Based on that, I’d presume she’s okay.
The Usher thing? It made me think of the controversies of 1989-1991 with the National Endowment for the Arts funding, when the Republicans fought to cut NEA funding because of their support of Robert Mapplethorpe an Annie Sprinkle. We had no TMZ, no constant smartphone photos in those days, but I’m sure celebrities went to such controversial exhibits back then, too. Now, however, we have to weather through the paparazzi photos of it.
Ok, lurker coming out of the shadows for this, good one! I think Miley is fine and agree with all the sowing-the-oats comments. In fact, if I ever had looked that good in a pastie or had that kind of money, maybe I’d act like that. Weed and attention seeking, all in good fun. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she was super hurt by Liam and still carrying that around. Remember when he was just the underwear model she was living in her parents’ house with or something and now he and his brother have “arrived” in Hollywood as Mr. Hunger Games and Thor? They were just sitting around smoking weed until he went Hollywood, and never looked back. I could imagine some of her antics being “Look at me, Liam” as much as “Look at, everybody.” Sad, but not mental breakdown, dying of your additions. She’ll get over it, and maybe Kennedy dong is the way!
I agree that the breakup with Liam is a contributing factor to all she has going on but I don’t think it’s the catalyst as she was sad to be ‘out of control’ before the breakup, this was the purported reason and also the alleged extra dong she was partaking in maybe was a factor as well.
The initial partying may have very well been a ‘LOOK at me Liam’ moment but this extended as hell Stella move says that she’s DEFINITELY dealing with underlying issues. This is coming from someone who can’t seem to keep an ex in his neat box due to my 1st breakup that wasn’t on my terms, I had my moments LOL
Miley is just experimenting with all life has to offer her.
Lyndsey has a drug habit to contend with.
However Amanda shows signs of schizophrenia, poor girl she had a very promising career built up. You never know what’s just around the corner for
you in your life. An unexpected illness especially a prodigious mental one such as schizophrenia is dreadful for the patient and family to get help & treatment to cope with. Hope Ms. Bynes can get the help she needs to find a sense of normalcy in her life again. In comparison to Mileys actions of late ( observing her in a silver tinsel wig) I think Ms. Cyrus is going to be fine. It’s just her asserting her autonomy & with it furthering web publicity.
Usher ‘s actions on tmz photos was a bit much & I say oh my heavens !
I think Miley Cyrus has a good body and she wants to be naked and show it off. Which is fine. While I think the emphasis on ones physical appearance might be unhealthy because we age and it’s not a strong or reliable factor to esteem ourselves based off of, I also don’t judge women who are genuinely free in terms of sex and sexuality. It’s hard to tell in some cases if they are truly happy or not, but I just take their word for it. I think Miley is fine (pun intended).
All the other celebs are coping in their individual ways with a matter that takes, or should take highest priority in their lives: mental illness, which requires them to religiously comply with their respective medication, therapy, and dietary milieus. It’s not as fun as being manic, gregarious, productive, and the life of the party … until they’re wearing tinfoil-lined wigs, hats or caps to stop Big Brother from reading or controlling their thoughts, block the CIA from sending vibes.
Why is Usher trying to prove that he’s str8? There’s something going on with him (or anyone else) plugging a twat with a cell phone charge cord. (It won’t make rumors go away, either.)
Tasos, I thought the same thing. That Usher thought, here was a photo op to face down – ick, sorry – those pesky rumors. Miley, Miley, I hope you’re just rebelling. Britney went to school in my town. I’ll always root for her. I’m sad that she seems like a shell of her old self. But I know that’s preferable to batshit.
Miley just needs a kick in the ass, and to be sent to Sieverville to stay with her godmother Dolly. Make her go work at the park and listen to long lectures about humble pie. I’m sure the holidays will be plenty awkward when she has to interact with the grown ups. I also think Maria Shriver should intervene (I know he’s an adult, but I do) and let her know her sons will only be dating people with the class to screw around privately, as its always been. Shame on Billy Ray and Trish for allowing her to take her anti Hannah Montana thing so far. I think she’s just rebelling.
As for the chick with the vag phone charger…she’s going to get cancer down there in the name of art.
I agree with many who say that Miley is getting the attention she craves by trying to stay “relevant” through these crazy, carefree, expressions of self. She is young and will hopefully mature out of the drug use. In saying that we have some cause to be worried in that she has very poor parental supports in helping her stay balanced. Her father encourages the behaviour and I’m not sure about the role her mom has; she seems absent to me. She also believes that she is using “healthy” or “natural” drugs so they are that bad. Some people are addicted to eating cotton balls, an addiction is an addiction. Amanda and Britney have mental illnesses and Lindsay does too in the form of an addiction. I do not see signs of a mental illness with Miley, but Miley has a lot going against her in avoiding the development of an addiction. I think you can safely worry TT.
As for the vagina charge…. I hate you, you made me look. ARggg. I can’t scrub that out no matter what. 🙂
Sorry, that should say She also believes that she is using “healthy” or “natural” drugs so that they aren’t that bad.
Breakdown in 5 4 3 2 1 ! Is she over the whole I’m ratchet faze yet? Yeah she cray!
I’m not too concerned about Miley. I look at her and then I look at Rihanna. Their manner of dress and behavior seems pretty similar to me.
Lindsay Lohan has a couple of very serious mental illnesses. She is an addict and she has at least one personality disorder per court documents that were made public. Personality disorders like hers typically stem from severely dysfunctional upbringings. You combine that with addiction and it’s a combo that’s very very hard to treat. While they both like to party, I don’t see anything being reported about Miley that equates to the self destructive behavior on Lindsay’s level. With Miley, I see a pop start trying to stay relevant and using shocking behavior to do it.
Lindsey was so adorable in Freaky Friday and Mean Girls. Could a personality disorder be a coping mechanism? Like the brain’s way of checking out from abuse/neglect? I’m just not convinced Lindsey’s is biological/hormonal. Sorry if I’m parroting another commenter. I can’t remember all dis stuff.
Ok, so typically when I give a lecture on Personality Disorders I lecture for about 5 hours. I’m going to give you a very basic and brief explanation. A personality disorder is a very serious mental illness. It is a lifelong pattern of dysfunctional relating to other people. The working theory for the type of the PD Lindsay is alleged to have is that an abusive, emotionally turbulent childhood lays the groundwork. It’s not a specific coping mechanism like say denial or projection. It’s the way you see the world and manage all your relationships. Some people with certain types of PD are more likely to have addiction problems. When we talk about ” checking out” due to abuse that is known as disassociation and is a psychotic symptom. That is typically seen in PTSD with psychotic features or one of the other disorders of psychosis and or trauma.
I don’t think Lindsay has been diagnosed with anything other than addiction. And maybe kleptomania 🙂
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I had, “as in recently departed” , a cousin who was diagnosed with a boarder line personality disorder and bi-polar. It is very hard to describe what a personality disorder is like as an experience. You kind of have to know someone who has it. She operated in society in a different way than most people. To her, her behavior was perfectly normal and rational. At first glance to another, it seemed all was rational until you would stop and think about her logic. Lindsey may indeed have one. Hard to tell from a distance. It’s a very confusing condition .
I think for Miley it’s all an act. I think public persona Miley and at home Miley are two different people. One is this “I’m Miley and NOT Hannah” persona and the other is “I’m just a 21-year-old” Miley. I always felt her head was screwed on straight, she just likes to publicly push a certain image.
Again I post, Disney + stupid parents=train wrecks. Why are we confused at this point? Haven’t we seen artist on this same road before? I’m with the person who posted that when Liam dumped her, I knew something was figured out by him about Mikey. I love Liam too and trust his judgment. Plus, I have eyes I can see. .
I think with the Disney artists we see repeatedly their trying to assert that they are no longer Disney. That they are their own adult person. She and Liam were together for a while. I never read too deeply into their breakup cos they had that period of on-and-off. It just seemed like a relationship that didn’t work out, not anything specifically hair-raising.
I think Miley will be okay, but I’m not a mental health professional. Yes, her behavior is a bit of an outlier on the scale of normal young adult behavior, but that’s probably due to her life circumstances and the fact that she has a huge audience. Amanda and Lindsay break my heart, but Miley doesn’t. She’s an artist.
Yes I think you should be concerned. She is flipping or already has flipped out. She is rebelling against everything and all things, that she conceives as normal. Anything her parents and of course Disney would want her to do, she is doing just the opposite. She wants to be the “bad” girl. I think she will be sorry for this as she gets older and possibly has kids of her own that might see what a disgusting display she has made of herself.
I’m sure her own future children will be able to look back and see it was just another part of her life..a part before they were born. All of our parents had lives before we came about and I’m sure not all of those lives were picture perfect.
Who the hell is Mikey, I meant Miley.
I think Miley is OK…don’t know if anyone will remember this, but there was a gentleman in the 1970’s I think, who started cutting off pieces of his penis and photographing it as art…there have been all kinds of things done for the sake of “art”. Although it appears Miley shares certain traits with Amanda and Lindsey, I think she is fine, a little bratty and whatnot, but essentially I don’t worry for her like some of the others…
So to clarify your position, as long as Miley isn’t cutting off parts of her penis we have no reason to be concerned? Or is it that cutting off parts of your penis is just fine and so is Miley?
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Sort of…just kidding!! I think she is trying to be “edgy” is all. To me, she lacks guidance. And I wanna say cutting off parts of your penis is fine, especially if you’re Miley, but, I’m just kidding again!! No – self mutilation is really messed up…I was only trying to say that folks do some ridiculous things in the name of art. I want to say the guy from the 70’s ended up bleeding to death, but I don’t remember. What I do remember is he had a friend who assisted him…that was even more horrifying to me.
Body art was greatly a response to Julia kristevas critique of lacan’s mirror stage. Lacan’s believed when children recognize themselves in the mirror the permanent cognitive separation between mother and child and individualism in general begins. Kristeva noted the internal external relationship of the body to the world through child birth, bleeding, excrement and vomit.
Anyway I only say this because self mutilation in art of the 80’s and 90’s was done in response to theory pertaining to the human condition and the methodology of abstract Impressionism. Miley Cyrus just wants to party and be naked, or is possibly mentally Ill. They are both valid, but not correlated.
And Tee Cee! It’s nice to see your comments…I haven’t seen them lately. Hope you see mine today and that you’re doing well!!
In a world where an entire family is rewarded with lucrative “careers” because one of them was urinated on during a sex tape….nothing surprises me.
As for Miss Bynes, I truly hope that she gets the help that she needs to be able to control her illness and live a happy and productive life.
I will refrain from commenting on the mental illness issue with celebs. MC’s behavior the last couple of years could fall into either wanting to get away from the good girl/Disney label or mental illness. Only time will tell and either way it’s none of my business.
Usher charging his phone with the vag charger was kind of cool. It brought attention to the artist and the point she’s trying to make.
What point was she trying to make?
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It was something about female empowerment. She also said she can get enough power from her privates to power TWO phones.
She was trying to show just how reliant we are on electronics/electricity. The need to charge our cell phones is a great way to show that. Having a celeb charge his phone with her in-vag charger was a good way to get publicity.
And here all this time I thought you were one of the sane posters….
/backs away slowly
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I am sane, I was just relaying what she said she was trying to do. I clicked the TMZ link and read the article like a good girl 😀
Oh, those were her thoughts. I thought for a minute that you thought shoving a phone charger in your vagina was art. :)
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LMAO Hell no, I think it’s retarded. OMG I used the R word 😛
I got a stern letter about saying Porsha was retarded the other day. Apparently, she has a retarded child and says it’s “offensive.” I suppose if my kid had the IQ of Porsha Williams, I’d be offended too.
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I think with Miley’s it’s a mixture of trying to be the anti-Hannah Montana with a bit of look how much fun I’m having without you to the exboyfriend. She spent most of her childhood having to be a mini adult so she’s making up for lost time. It’s working for her now too she made an insane amount on her tours. If it ever turns really serious with the guy she’s dating now she’ll probably tone it down some could you imagine holidays with the Terminator and Kennedy heir if you’re swinging naked from stuff? In my best Arnold tone ” Don’t be back”
I really feel for Amanda Bynes and her family. I know what a struggle it is to get the right meds and to get them to take them properly. I’ve seen it both with my own family and in my job as EMT. I often wish they would come up with a shot where they can go in get it and stay stable ( like they do for birth control) and get the next shot before the last bottoms out. It’s really hard to get someone to take a pill when they think they don’t need it or it’s going to kill them.
Hopefully Lyndsey Lohan can pull it together eventually. Addiction is one of those things a person just has to reach their own rock bottom on and want to change. And everyone’s rock bottom is different, we can think what more of a bottom do they need but it still may not be theirs. No one can fix it but her. I’ve seen wife’s, husbands, parent’s, children crying and begging for the person to clean up, for some it works for others nothing. I wish them all well.
I believe Miley is in the same boat as Brittany, Lindsey,and Amanda. A couple of years ago Miley had a “friend” who taped her after smoking some exotic weed or something that gives you a crazy trip for a little while. She was saying stuff about how she was Anna Nicole Smith. If you google Mkultra and any of these ladies names you will find an possible explanation for what is wrong with them.
I think tmz is desperately trying to retain it’s audience by deliberately taking situations out of context and just being assholes. However if she doesnt stay away from the drugs she could be in for an interesting time.
So, how is this “art” installment saying humans are dependent on technology? To me it’s saying technology is dependent on humans….but whatta I know ’bout art.
I think she is following closely in the footsteps of Madonna and Lady Gaga. Madonna actually has talent and Gaga did too, at one point, until she turned herself into a circus freak show who only wants to make a statement based upon her ridiculous “costumes.” When you have no discernible talent other than to show your skin then that speaks volumes. Miley it to that point, I believe.
There has been something strange about Miley for years..just goggle the pic with Miley posing with her dad that caused an uproar a few years back. Warning…if you think that picture is normal then I am going to give you the side eye as a pedophilia pusher..
Do we really all need to read the Commenting Rules again ? http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/commenting-rules/
Especially #2 where y’all feel the need to make us all aware that google exists?
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Sorry about that TT…. I know its a job keeping up with the hard head, please excuse me.
To disagree nicely, the newer stronger pot that’s been around for about 10 plus years does trigger schizophrenia and other mental disorders in young people with the underlying tendency’s.
The medical research is out there and it is not reversible when quitting smoking. It’s a permanent chemical brain dysfunction.,
There’s a great documentary about marijuana triggering psychosis, it’s called “The Down Side of High”. Scary stuff.
I think pot, drugs and too much alcohol alter brain chemistry after long term use. I think Amanda has a mental illness and thank you to Chicago Housewife for explaining anosognosia. I learned something new today. I think drugs exacerbated Lindsay mental issues. I think Miley is just doing a Lady Gaga however I feel she is on the cusp of screwing up her brain chemistry from the drugs & booze. I hope she cleans up before that happens. Every E! Hollywood Story has had drugs & alcohol at the core.
Chemistry is a crazy thing. I had a friend who was going thru menopause and had all sorts of physical and mental symptoms. Her gyno put her on birth control pills and she went back to normal. It took a good year of suffering and a battery of tests before she found her cure…
Regarding the vagina charger, there are no words. Ughh…
No comment on the relative mental health of MC or the others; this won’t sit well with some, but I can’t pretend to care about any of them. That is not to say I wish them ill.
As for the um, performance art … asinine.
That elephant is most likely triggering many mental breakdowns……..
Miley= bad parenting
Bynes= mentally ill
Lohen= bad parenting + genetically predisposed to addiction + possible mental illness + white trash with money
Good Morning! (If you’re up and running yet), I know you have late nights like me! Hoping you are sleeping in!
I would appreciate your help! As I believe you’re probably the only one that can help me out and understand. PLUS, I don’t want anyone to know that I was going to go all therapeutic in stead of Journaling a more traditional route.
First of all, thanks for deleting my comment that was in moderation, as I didn’t want it linked to my personal Blog. I had happened to just make yesterday! Of course!
I wanted a private and or undercover place to journal. My therapist and I discussed it a few times and I finally decided instead of “putting the pen to paper”, that I would blog it privately.
I had absolutely zero idea that because I post here, it would change my handle on your site and or link it. Due to my personal email address I signed up with your site.
I then went back in and tried to use my icloud email that was assigned when I got a tablet. It did the same thing through WordPress. Ugh.
Should I delete the entire new WP blog account under a new email a make a new a WP account? Thus creating a completely and new email address for WP email account? That way it won’t link when I post to your site TT? That way it wont change my regular “HerDaughter” handle?
I’m extremely sorry that this has been an extremely long email and I hope it makes sense!? LoL
sorry just seeing this. I can see that it is fixed now. Perhaps you can use a different email and name for your secret blog. 🙂
Hey Lady! I’m just seeing this! I think!? I never did anything with my “Secret Blog/Diary” type thing or whatever I though I would do with it. Haha! I went to comment on your Nene post and it wanted to put in all my information. So, I decided to go fix all my crap. Low and behold…look what I find! I also put a picture up… FML.
How are you doing? Hope life is treating you right…
*HerDaughter*
Love the new pic! :)
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Loving this! And… thank You! Great new feature! Good job girl
So sorry to bother you again. Really sorry. But, I figured out how to completely delete my new WP Blog. Hopefully, now I can post to your blog and nothing links. Ugh…I guess it wasn’t the time for 37 year’s of cathartic life long venting! Ha!
From the distance of the internet & tabloids, it looks to me like Miley’s fine. She’s a young woman who’s finding her sexuality, her art & her politics, has paparazzi following her around & the money & power to do whatever the hell she wants. She’s never been arrested, gotten in a fight or been found passed out in a club. She’s consistently performing (which is a lot of work). Every time I want to give her the side eye, I think about what I might have done at her age, with her access to the spotlight & cameras following me everywhere. I’m pretty sure it would have been way worse. As it was I went to protests, drew on my face to make political statements, held raging parties, got tattoos, hooked up with people I shouldn’t, wore skimpy clothing, neglected washing my dishes, went to strip clubs, dyed my hair strange colors, used substances, started smoking. And I turned out ok (employed, stable marriage, non-smoker, gym bunny, over 40). She’ll be fine.
“Tendency?”
“A bit?”
Honey…you’ve long since “tended” (past tense) and surpassed “a bit” about forty-leven “bits” ago.
Which is why I luuuuurrrrrrv you!