It’s time for the season premier! We have no new photos, but we have new taglines!
Nene: Why be so nasty and so rude, when I can be so fierce and so successful?
Kandi: I’m not about the drama, don’t start none, won’t be none.
Cynthia: Life is about choices, and I choose Cynthia.
Phaedra: When it comes to my family? I’m the judge and the jury.
Kenya: People get exhausted trying to figure me out. And I just let them.
Okay that intro was a hot mess that looked like it was hobbled together by one-eyed interns. Where is Claudia’s peach? We were told Claudia would have a peach? Will that come later since she was filming as an FOH for so long? Why would they not give their highest rated show a decent intro? You can’t even recognize half of the for all the photoshopping and editing. I’m not even sure that is any hair we have ever seen on Cynthia on her head in the peach holding scene. So far this is a hot mess, a HOT MESS, I say. Did I say hot mess yet? Lord have mercy. Maybe Claudia takes Nene’s peach at the halfway mark? Wouldn’t that be a kick in Nene’s ass…?
We’re going to start right off with Nene in Las Vegas filming Circe du Soleil Porn Show, Zumanity. This was done before the real filming for the season began. And there is Gregg right in her wake as usual. Why is Nene putting a wigcap on over her wig? 
On to Kandi and Todd. Todd’s daughter Kayla is moving in for filming. I mean because she is “moving to Atlanta.” Kandi is happy about it; however, Todd and Kandi have two different parenting styles. Kandi spoilers Riley she practically has her own apartment on the property with two 60 inch flat screens. Todd, and pretty much everyone in the universe thinks that is excessive for a child. Kandi is offended. Todd wants to provide structure for Kayla, who is 18, and Kandi thinks it’s too late for that. This does not bode well for these two having a baby.
Phaedra is holed up in a hotel room in Augusta, Georgia on the day of Apollo’s sentencing with her mother and the boys. She says it is because paparazzi are in front of her house trying to snap pictures of the boys. I can assure you that did not happen. As you know I am Internet friends with her neighbors. They were paying attention that day because they didn’t want any more drama than the Nida’s usually bring to the neighborhood. There was not the first unusual car and zero paparazzi. Sorry Phaedra. I guess TMZ didn’t get your message.
Apollo does a talking head where he says he is not a murderer, he is not a child molester, he is not the guy on the corner selling cocaine. He understands what he has done is illegal, it’s wrong, but it’s fixable. He says he pled to wire fraud, bank fraud and mail fraud. He says that he “basically controlled shell corporations” and he got caught because a co-conspirator got into a bind and decided to bring him in. My wife and children left, and the woman I thought was supposed to be there for me and cherish me was nowhere to be found.
Phaedra tells her mother that Apollo is upset she is not going to court, but her going to court is not going to change anything. This is such a load of bullshit. She keeps saying all the media has been at the house. That did not happen. Phaedra gives a long speech about how she has to be a parent first.
Michael, Apollo’s brother walks in the house. Someone forgot to tell Michael to pretend like there were paps outside. LOL Apollo just confirmed there are no paps outside. Camera scans the empty street. Apollo says that Phaedra would not even write a statement for the judge saying he is a good father and asking for leniency.
Phaedra can’t even look at her mother when she denies knowing anything about what Apollo was up to. Phaedra says she doesn’t have time to follow behind Apollo to make sure he is doing the right thing. Montage of Apollo being a father. Apollo is crying just before sentencing.
Cynthia comes to visit Kenya. Kenya spent a lot of time traveling in Europe over the summer. She says she needed to get away after Porsha attacked her. Kenya talks about the attack and Porsha getting arrested. Kenya say that she was hurt that everyone ran over to Porsha when the assault happened. Cynthia did not and she did not support the others doing that. Kenya says that everyone looks at Porsha as if she has a handicap because she is stupid. Cynthia says she doesn’t see it as a handicap.
Cynthia is pissed at Nene for her comments on WWHL. Cynthia feels very betrayed and has not spoken to Nene since. There are showing this episode of WWHL but according my recap, Nene really didn’t trash Cynthia on that show. Okay it wasn’t that one and I don’t have time to hunt for the right one. Nene talked about Cynthia blowing whichever way the wind blows. I do remember her trashing her. It’s a different show though with a different black dress. Cynthia says she knows about her history because she has one that does not include a stripper pole. Man these talking heads are STYLED this season. I love Cynthia in the blue and yellow floral dress and the straight blondish hair. Cynthia says she is much happier without Nene in her life.
Meanwhile, Kandi goes to see a half nekkid Porsha doing a photoshoot. I guess all those rumors floating around the ATL about Porsha being an escort must have started from this scene. She sure dresses the part. Or um, undresses the part. Kandi and Porsha chat about Porsha’s new tits. Then Porsha talks about how she doesn’t think about Kenya because she’s a working girl. Or maybe she just said she was working. Same thing, right? Kandi seems to support Porsha attacking Kenya. Porsha talks to Kandi about people having to take “credit for their actions.” Perhaps responsibility had too many syllables? Either way, she seems to think that Kenya is the one that needs to “take the credit.” Porsha does a talking head to say that she will never apologize. But I must point out that Porsha looks STUNNING in the hot pink dress and that pink and clear rhinestone necklace is DO DIE FOR. I didn’t even care that it was a stupid one shoulder dress, because it is gorgeous. This was the one rare time for hot pink lip stick, she went too pale. It almost made me forget how stupid the things coming out of her mouth are. Almost.
Why didn’t Apollo’s judge tell to shave before his sentencing hearing? Strange that Apollo decides to call Todd on the car ride there and not his attorney. Apollo got 8 years as we know, but he won’t do anything near that. You can read how much time he will do here. They show a scene with Apollo and his brother and his mother in an empty restaurant after the sentencing. Phaedra talks about how she is the center of her boys lives. Whenever something happens in their life the CALL her. Because she has been in school, and on book tours, and on the Ellen Show, and filming in Puerto Rico and the Philippines and filming about town and handling all of her multiple businesses.
Nene’s rehearsal for the orgy scene is filmed. It’s.. well it’s bad. Really bad. In her defense, despite her past life as a stripper, Nene is not one to discuss her sex life. There have been many time when Kandi has just made Nene cringe with her sex talk. She was never excited about the strip club scenes so it’s no wonder she is not a good fit for this role.
Dear God. I know the Nenetards say I pick on Nene but girl, who is the stylist for HER talking heads? She needs to get with Porsha and Cynthia’s people stat! She has on a leopard dress with black trim that reminds me of Miss Kitty and I can’t even conjure up an image of Miss Kitty or remember her she is but I think that must be her dress. And she has on a half-dozen craptastic necklaces. Okay it’s just two long ones wrapped around several times. One has a giant black cross. I am not making this up. It’s not a pretty look. Am I supposed to pretend it is? And there are ginormous black earrings. No. Just no. She looks much better in her grey shirt and black yoga pants and cute hat and sandals.
Kandi and Todd disagree about Phaedra and Apollo. So far every scene they have they are on opposite sides of the issue. This really does not bode well for the marriage. What exactly are they on the same page about? Apollo drops by the office to see Kandi and Apollo and Kandi is a bit uncomfortable because she’s BFF’s with Phaedra so she leaves the boys to talk. Apollo says that Phaedra did not call him after the sentencing.
Cute 40 minute segment with Nene and two of her male Zumanity cast mates chatting.
Cynthia is working with clients and Peter shows up with a picnic basket full of lunch. Cynthia says with Nene gone she has a lot more time with her husband. Cynthia is back in her old modeling space, which I like a lot better than the place Peter moved her to anyway. They talk about their crazy landlord who didn’t use the rent to pay the mortgage and his properties going into foreclosure. A lot of people misunderstood that situation. You can read the real story here, be sure to click on the links within this post. Cynthia has such a good attitude. These two seem happy. Peter is focused on his BarOne in Charlotte. Peter asks Cynthia if she wants to be a partner, a silent investment partner.
Kandi goes to visit Phaedra in “Augusta” Phaedra is not sure whether it is best to let the boys visit or not. I can understand being conflicted about that. I have no idea what I would do in that situation or what I would advise a friend to do. Those boys are so little. Phaedra says that she has her emotional moments in private. You have to give the girl credit, she is holding up well.
Phaedra and her mother and the boys return home. Dylan doesn’t look happy. It appears that Ayden was sent out to play in the neighborhood during this filming. It seems to happen a lot when filming is going on. Sometimes his sitter is out there with him and sometimes she is not. Phaedra has a nanny and a sitter pretty much all the time. The nanny sleep over and the sitter joins the nanny all day until the boys are down for the night. Anyway, Phaedra and Apollo immediately get into it. Apollo is pissed that Phaedra did not show up on court. If you did not see this video of Apollo after the sentencing talking about Phaedra abandoning him and all sort of other things, CLICK HERE NOW it’s must see stuff full of Apolloisms. I did not feel sorry for him then, but I do have a pang of something happening knowing that he really was all alone during the week of his sentencing.
Apollo says even though Phaedra didn’t want to go to court, she could have stayed in the house with the kids and he could have seen them before he left on the chance that the judge decided to remand him immediately. He could have returned home from court to his family rather than an empty house. Is it because he looks cute in his talking head that this is starting to make sense to me? Apollo says that Phaedra never shared her RHOA check with him. He never saw a dime of that money. He’s basically saying he had to steal to have his own money. Thanks Apollo, I was almost starting to care. Phaedra tells him to stop telling lies. Apollo says that when they got married Phaedra told him he could just pay the utilities but two months in, she was asking for help to pay the $3,000 mortgage. Um, no, Apollo, if she told you her mortgage was $3,000 a month she lied. That might have been two months. Maybe she was behind, but the house before this one would not have a mortgage anywhere near that when y’all got married. Phaedra says that she has always paid for things for Apollo and he is out of his mind. Apollo says he has all his assets frozen and can’t even buy a hamburger. He owes the government $1.9 million dollars and none of her assets are frozen, he has brought no grief onto her. She has not lost her job or her house or he bank accounts. Phaedra says what about the public shame? Apollo says that is all Phaedra cares about. Well, Apollo, I agree that Phaedra is a media whore who seeks attention, but she has carefully crafted a façade to show to the public and you have blown that all up in her face. I think that right there is some grief and frankly I admire her composure while this conversation is going on. Apollo is finally catching on that Phaedra married him so she would have a husband and maybe some kids and he was “just a good specimen.” How is he just figuring out what we knew three episodes in to her first season? She needed to be “a housewife.” Apollo seems like he really loved her. Apollo says he doesn’t want to be in the relationship anymore. Apollo says she needs to come up with a game plan because he is not coming home to an apartment and no car. He seems to be asking Phaedra to have a house and a car for him when he gets out. Oh Apollo. You just don’t get it.
Next Week: Nene gets stage fright before her Zumanity performance, Kenya gets Apollo to admit the truth on camera one more time for the record, and as if Ayden’s life didn’t suck enough lately, the poor kid has to go to the dentist.
We’re getting introduced to Claudia in two weeks so she’ll probably be added to the intro then. Bravo put out a video of the full intro with her in it.
I picked up on Porsha’s comment too about taking “credit” for their actions. I said to myself “man…how does she tie her shoes in the morning?” Lol…..as far as Apollo and Phae I was always under the impression that SHE was the one who initiated talk of divorce. It was him…wow!!!!
Porsha is so stupid it hurts.
You don’t take CREDIT for your bad behavior you BUFFOON! Responsibility isn’t a word in her vocabulary let’s face it.
Whatever. Nothing will ever EVER top her going on & on about the Underground Railroad being an ACTUAL PHYSICAL TRAIN.
What is sad about Porsha is that she still doesn’t have a clue that she should have said responsibility instead of credit. Wonder if someone is keeping a running tally of the stupid comments that she makes over the radio like Tamara did with whatshisname’s lies from Big Brother. Now that’s a list I’d love to read.
I know, every time I replay her “underground railroad” comments in my mind I can’t control my laughter.
Yep, yep, same.
O.K. not to be a Porsha defender, but she did not go “on and on” about the underground railroad it really was just one or two sentences. I don’t get the vitriol over her stupidity. Yes she’s stupid, why this enrages people I do not know. It does not matter to me one way or another.
Porsha is the granddaughter of a noted civil rights leader. A man that walked with and broke bread with MLK. Her lack of intellectual curiosity is astounding.
Apollo is just figuring out who Phaedra really is. Wow. That was hard to watch.
I think we got a first hand look at how Phaedra treated Angela Stanton
Boom!
I think we saw some of who Apollo really is, too. We knew he was an ass from various trips and fights…but his venom and anger is focused on her. I’d have the kids away from that bullshit too.
WOW. You are so right.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Apollo: I love my son.
Michael: I know you love Aden.
That’s the real boom.
I think we saw the result of pheadra constant manipulation of appollo. I saw
appollo at his breaking point on his way to jail with no support, support he expected from Phaedra just like Angela Stanton expected when she went to prison for Phaedra.
Exactly. Here, in our camp someone screamed at the TV: “Oh my god, Phaedra is AS’ing her husband.” We thought ‘making an ass of him?” They responded “No, she’s Angela Stanton’ing him!” Parks is not just the mastermind, she’s well connected…cause why haven’t ‘they’ frozen her assets till he pays up? They’re married, at the time of his so-called crimes, so wouldn’t “community property” fall under that. She HAS TO BE well-connected. Remember the movie “No Way Out” where the character said something like “We need a fallguy for this.” Parks knows how to get/take what she wants and keep her hands clean. Me wonder…does she confide the truth, the real truth, in Kandi? Kandi, do you know she’s the mastermind behind Apollo’s charges? If so, and you give her pass, you are indeed a true friend. But, um, tip: Keep your own bank records clear from her purview. Lol. No, seriously though.
It would be a trip if Apollo wrote a tell (all) book…
All of your comments are on point!!
@ Concerned…I kept replaying that part , trying to figure out what Apollo said!!
Phaedra had a point about Apollo thinking about their Family during all of this. It isn’t like HE didn’t have a choice in the matter!? I also kept thinking of Angela Stanton during that entire scene…
Did you see appollo’s face when Phaedra asked him “were YOU thinking about your family when YOU Did what YOU did? Appollo”s eyes bucking out wide said it all.
He was 2 seconds from. Saying “what bitch,you know your ass was in on this whole thing. Don’t let me turn up for these cameras”!!
You’re observation is on 10! It’s quick, but yes, we caught that too! Lol.. Scorpios [he’s one, as is she] are about depth. So the deep, underbelly sh*t about what she said, would enrage him…it’s a wonder he didn’t just TURN UP in TRUTH at that moment. But Bravo would have benn INSTRUCTED to edit it before it reaches the public…Parks gotta be well-conducted.
That was it, Right there!
Yeah, I sort of caught some of that vibe from Apollo. Oh, Phaedra must be clean or else she is walking on thin ice.
But another Phaedra thought: when I was very much younger, my long term boyfriend went to jail in another state for RICO-type stuff. (Long story! I was young!) We did not have a family, but loved each other. I WAS SO ANGRY AT HIM when he got in trouble, and it ultimately led to our breakup. But there wasn’t a switch where I could just turn love off. I saw no love, no sadness, no fear over Apollo’s situation from Phaedra in any of her scenes. There wasn’t even any disappointment in the loss of the life they planned together, and I just have to say, she is one cold bitch. No emotion? No, you can’t completely hide it, unless there’s nothing there to hide.
BH Wannabe……did you peep that also. I’m a Scorpio too, don’t know too much bout all that Astro stuff, but we ride hard for men we THINK we love, wrong or right, but we also are very intolerable of weak or dumb men. Pheadra used Apollo like a handiwipe and now she is done simple as that. The fact that he is going down for HIS family is telling. I just hope for pha’s sake that mr. President or the captain is really his son. If Angela doesn’t take Phadrea down, Appollo will. ( I didn know he was a Scorpio man)
I agree Phaedra is being very callous which is why I wanna know why wont he turn up if she had anything to do with it? I don’t think she had anything to do with it but I do believe she knew about it.
In apollos mind he literally can’t spill the beans on Phaedra because then there won’t be anyone fit enough to take care his son(s). I mean Phaedras mom looks about two cheeseburgers away from a heart attack lol, I don’t think she would be able to do it fulltime.
Yess! I feel like that whole conversation was him reminding he took one for the team, AGAIN. Her $ has not been effected at all by his charges, and that she better make sure that his car note is paid while he is in prison, and he damn sure ain’t coming home to no apartment after making sure her money stays clean and she stays out of trouble. Even if she claims she didnt know about this time, if we are to believe Angela Stanton, she introduced him to the fraud game. How can she be mad that he went back to it, when you’re living in Atl trying to put on airs left and right. Airs cost money. That’s like introducing someone to heroin, then being upset when they become addicted to it.
(I still don’t understand how any of their joint money, like the fitness videos, is not being taken by the feds, btw. )
Phaedra, you better pay that boy’s car note and let him stay in the old house. You owe him one.
I, too, would love to read an Apollo tell all. He sounds like he has had a rough life and Phaedra took advantage of that.
@BHWannabe, I’ve always wondered if Phaedra is a psychopath or sociopath. No joke. Something has always seemed “off” about her to me.
I don’t recall ever seeing Apollo treating his wife lovingly. I don’t think he ever loved HER. His crimes were so cold that they came to the attention of Homeland security. i think if he had been charged with assault or even murder, Phaedra would have gone. But what he did was despicable, and as an attorney I would not have gone either. He was the one who had everything going for him, and could have had a regular job which would have satisfied his wife. But, no. He’s out stealing pension checks from little old ladies by day and throwing the money at strippers by night.
Wrong choices, Apollo. Although I will miss your handsome face.
You sound as if you believe Phaedra truly knew nothing about what Apollo was doing.
I didn’t see any love there either. He was always disrespectful towards her. Though I don’t believe Phaedra had no clue what was going on.
As far as nene, I pretty much skipped over every sciene with her. She’s no longer interesting to watch
I think apollo does finally get it and his love of money will result in a tell all book if Phaedra doesn’t have a car and apartment waiting for him when he gets out LOFARHW part 2.
From that scene alone it’s clear she knew he was back to his old ways to get money. She knew he had no money when they married and I find it hard to believe as an atty she never questioned how he miraculously could by cars and pay the mortgage. I hope radford deposed him
There was never any love from phaedra in that marriage (my opinion) I dont know any woman that could discuss such a situation and not get emotional. I believe that scene with Pha and Kandi was for her to explain why she seems so cold while discussing it
I’ll do you one better, tht scene where he was trying to take the baby it looked like she purposefully held the child away to make him look bad. There are naive ppl who believe that because she is going in on him on camera it means she wasn’t involved. Apollo wants a car and a house when he gets out because they had a deal and he is taking all the heat.
Wowee.. wow. wowwwee. I’m floored b/c I was just on Bravo commenting how ppl are CRAZY for thinking Phaedra was in on Apollo’s illegal dealings b/c he is SO angry with her right now that he would have outed her to the cameras. BUT! You all just spilled the ugly truth for me. I get it now.. Apollo & Phadra must have struck some sort of deal that he keep her name out of everything and this way, his kids will be protected financially AND with the condition that she take care of him financially when he gets out in 8 years!!! Wow.. now it’s abundantly clear. I had no idea.. even though I heard him say “Im not coming home to an apartment and no car.” Now that sentence makes so much sens to me. He was telling her the way IT’s GONNA BE. Wowee.
I have to watch the Baby Scene, again. I was watching the baby. Not Phaedra. Even if Phaedra pulled away a little, that little guy wasn’t reaching out for Daddy. But I totally get what you’re saying! And I’m going to check it out!
OR…could it be exactly what you saw? Phaedra is really pissed b/c Apollo is dragging her name through the mud? Anybody who watches the show should know how important her persona has been to her. Could she be extremely pissed that she now has drag her small child to jail to visit their father? Could she and Apollo had an agreement when they got married that their finances remain separate? Could they simply have gotten married because she was pregnant in the first place? Weren’t they having marital problems before Apollo’s house of cards emploded ? Could she really understand that Apollo has some anger management issues (as we saw last year) and is actually afraid of him? Or (my personal favorite) Maybe Apollo is a complete dumb fuck who is on a ranting and raving tirade, not even paying attention to what’s coming out of his mouth or how stupid he sounds? I’m sorry for breaking the law and even more sorry for getting Caught (again) but it was because someone twisted my arm and made me do it (hello Teresa Giudice when did you join the cast?) ! Perhaps Apollo subscribes to the Momma Joyce school of thought that even though there is a prenuptial, I deserve to be kept “in the manner to which I’ve become accustomed” which would mean a car and an apartment when I get out of prison (damn Feds for freezing my bank account – that’s my money not money that belongs to the retirees I ripped off). And as far as Phaedra being so cold, maybe she is extremely pissed and is trying to keep it together in front of her children, her mother, and the bravo cameras? Btw, I like Ice Princess Phaedra more than Southern Belle Phaedra! Moral: Sometimes it is what it is (did I just quote NeNe?)! 🙂
I have no doubt that Phaedra was thoroughly investigated. This was a joint effort by the FBI and homeland security.
She has not been investigated. yet.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I had to laugh! I do agree, I enjoy ‘IcePrincessPhaedra’ much more also
Oh, I’m just having fun and stirring the pot! I do enjoy making fun of stupid people (Apollo). I am sort of shocked that the Feds haven’t investigated Phaedra. Seems odd that they haven’t.
Hello everyone, I am rooting for Phaedra I believe she didn’t know, Apollo is a liar and they did not share bank accounts so I can agree that she didn’t know furthermore she is way to angry to have known. I support her not showing up in court as well, as a married person who went through hell and back with two husbands there are somethings that go on in marriages that the world will never know about yet the world try and judge what they think they know. Apollo will do his time and Phaedra and her sons will be just fine. As I always said about my marriage to on lookers “All that glitters, aint gold”.
Either Nene, or Sigmund Freud. I kinda think Apollo would have spilled already if he had anything on Phaedra. Or maybe not, I don’t know. But we’ve seen his entitled attitude before, with Kenya at last reunion – he claimed she owed him cash money for giving her a storyline all season. Did you see the look in his eyes? I do believe the man was dead serious! So him thinking he’s entitled to things from Phaedra is not, to me, indicative that they had any agreement – just that he’s a self centered, entitled, grifting criminal.
Whoops, I wrote my comment before I read Kreality’s. Same idea…
If Phaedra is such a good mother, and so concerned with the welfare of her kids, why didn’t she have Grandma take the kid out of the room when they were arguing? In fact, why was he there, and not the other kid? If the other one was outside playing, why weren’t they BOTH outside and away from this hostility?
As for Apollo coming back to no car…..maybe Nene is helping him with “certain issues”, like she is with the Teresa? I could see her doing that….taking over certain valuables while they are “away”. Nene’s comment about helping just sounded a bit off.
I agree, but there was love there… Love of the penis. She always lights up when sex or pickles or strippers are around. Every single season. She hired/married a buck. You cant make a ho a househusband. But, I think Phaedra is fos because how do you marry a felon and have the nerve to act surprised when he does what he’s been doing….? Sigh. She is going down in due time. Props to Apollo for owning up to his foolishness. Proves to me she knew. He is an open book. And he is not stupid. He is simple. You don’t run these types of schemes without intellect. He makes stupid decisions and partakes in nefarious activities.
Oh and bravo never shows the new he in the intro until they are debuted on the show so when Claudia has her first scene ager will b in the intro of that show
Awesome recap. I had one moment of sympathy with apollo and that ended with all of his selfish harangues. I couldn’t believe they argued like that in front of the baby. Also, phaedra’s mom was the bodyguard in that episode. She clearly was not there to provide spiritual support.
Am I the only one speecbless with Kandi insinuating that the judge dished out a strict sentence for Apollo because he was black? And that it’s not fair that people won’t hire him after he gets out. He stole millions of dollars from elderly people, small businesses, etc and only got 8 years!!! We’re not talking about stealing from the big bad banks. Wow. Way to add to the racist views on the judicial system. Btw Kandi, plenty of white men and women go to prison and have a hard time finding a job afterwards. Who wants to hire a drug addict, thief, molester ,etc. Ugh, I used to like Kandi but this ruined it for me forever. Not including condoning porsha assualting kenya. What a bunch of trash.
Kandi is dumb and ghetto. There is no nicer way to put it.
I like you jteaspills.
Agree – never knew why people were so fond of her.
I agree. Watching this reminded me why she relates to Porsha. She was dumb in her conversations with Todd too. Done with her.
Yeah, I used to love Kandi. After that wedding I thought I couldn’t dislike her more… I was wrong! First episode of the season and Kandi’s outdone herself. Yuck.
Kandi was always my Atlanta safety net. No matter how much Porscha, Nene, Phaedra or Kenya would annoy me in the moment I always had my general appreciation of Kandi to rely on. Now she repulses me. Wtf happened? It all started with her mother and that damn wedding I think.
Totally agree Remember Kandi also defended numerous times that violence is fine too when Porsha attacked Kenya.
Not to mention her clothes and home are the epitome of BAD TASTE.
No dear! I was dumbfounded! My jaw dropped to the ground & I rewound it to hear it again. Is she SERIOUS?!? From 30 yrs he got 8 yrs AND he’s a felon. Harsh????
She is so so sooooo ignorant.
Only an ignorant woman could have mama Joyce’s back, that woman is so wrong she makes black stockings in white pumps seem right.
Kandi GET YOUR LIFE.
Girrrrrrrrrrrl, I cannot breathe reading your comment, lol, “black stockings in white pumps,” you wrong for that!
He received only 8 years after “spilling the beans” “the 411” on other things for the Feds. Also, Phaedra has been investigated, no doubt in my mind–because they always assume a spouse is a part of the crime/benefitting from the situation, at least “white collar crime(s).” Phaedra had a pre-nup but if not, still, whatever she had before marriage is her personal property/bank account, monies!!!! The only problem I see for Phaedra is the outcome of the case of Parks vs, Stanton. If Angela has proof of Phaedra’s involvement other than being signature on accounts with her or Apollo’s scams — I don’t see her being indicted for being a dutiful wife and being scammed by her husband by signing on his illegal companies. My 30-year legal opinion!!
I am on DVR so I’m only up to the part with Kandi saying it was some kind of racist sentence! Anyone have stats on sentencing for fraud? Seems it’s a federal offense and would be pretty cut and dry given what you did and what your history is.
Didn’t apollo say he was facing 50 years or something? TT, do you remember what the max sentence was? 8 years with possibilty of getting out after 5 seems like a slap on the wrist compared to the number of years he was facing.
I linked to that info in the post above. Not searching for you twice.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Haha understand. My phone was being a fucktard and not letting me click links. Hope you enjoy this weather this week before that cold front comes in.
I was all caffeinated up to do just that, but now I’m fighting the desire to nap while having a late lunch. I kinda want my therapeutic field trip today to be to the gun range (just to buy worms) and the dollar store. I’m supposed to try to do something, like EVERY DAY. My shrink may be the nutbar…
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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That was such a bullshit comment, but thinking how she defends her mother’s ratchet behavior, I’m not surprised. I haven’t checked Twitter yet but I imagine many called her out on it.
IKR Sarah! I watched RHOA late last night and made it here this morning. Haven’t touched twitter…yet! I’m guessing people are hella trippin about now! LoL
Kandi’s statements were beyond dumb. But, the entire show was an exercise in Dumbness…
These are some sad, foolish, thirsty harridans! Nene is a clown show, Porscha is a feeble minded squeezer and Cynthia is a human ATM for Uncle Ben…
As for Attorney Nida, she is the quintessential shyster that took advantage of a handsome imbecile.
However, my heart breaks for their children. I hope they won’t end up shaking their asses in raunchy videos a la Gia Guidice
He has already been arrested and has/is serving twice for stealing. Why would any one who worked their ass off take a chance of hiring a thief? As far as statisics, it has been shown time and time again that certain races are multiple offenders. When you are a multiple offender you get a harder sentence cause apparently the first time you were too stupid to catch a clue. My parents were abuse drug addicts and alcoholics, the bs that people have a bad childhood in poor areas is just that BS. I have never been arrested or broke the law, cause I knew better!
I get what Kandi was saying. I don’t think it’s fair that people who have already paid their debt to society can’t get hired either. People in that situation are going to end up resorting to illegal ways of making money, or else starve to death.
I get what she was trying to say as well – I don’t think she articulated it very well, as it doesn’t apply to Apollo, or maybe it got edited, but I think it’s equally as dumb to take it at face value and be like “OMG HATE KANDI NOW SHE SO DUMB”
First of all, blacks DO get higher sentences. I’m not black, I dont really have a stake in this, but its true. I don’t remember the numbers, but I do remember having to read a classmates near two hundred page thesis involving the matter. It’s well documented.
Second of all, I agree the rehabilitation system is flawed. A lot of people are born into lives with absent parents and crime, and they develop according to their surroundings, having a record doesnt correlate to being a bad person. My dealer in college (yeah, yeah) was a late 30-something year old con who was constantly going to job placements and temp sites. He literally just could not get a job given his record. So what do you do when you can’t get a job or support yourself? You go back to the only thing you know. He was very articulate and seemingly normal, but he grew up around drugs, and only knew drugs. One you’re in that situation it’s almost impossible to get out of. It’s easy to not care because it doesn’t affect people personaly but its a cycle that affects us all indirectly on both a social and economic level.
I understand her point about not being hired by anyone and I understand why noone would want to hire him. So to solve the problem “Kandi” can hire him to work for her. I work as a job coach to help people with disabilities find employment, veterans and people who have criminal records it is very hard to find a job, there are only a few companies that will hire someone with a criminal record. So Kandi is right when it comes to that statement about noone hiring him.
I think Kandi is dumb for condoning Porsha’s attack on Kenya. And for how she treats her mom/husband. All the evidence I need.
I was shocked by kandi’s dumb ass statements. Apollo stole from innocent retiree’s. And bought himself and Phaedra houses,furniture,cars,clothes etc..he tried to minimize and devictimilze(sp)(new word) his crimes by saying he was guilty of wire fraud and mail fraud,while setting up shell companies. No mofo you stole from old folks, retirement checks!!
Appollo DESERVES more than 8 years. And by the way Kandi there are Black men with Master Degrees who can’t find a job. Fugg a criminal record!
Ha ha I like “(sp)(new word)”–covering your bases! Made me laugh!
Sorry but I totally agree that the justice system overpenalizes on certain crimes and the combination of stigma plus lack of emphasis on genuine rehabilitation creates vicious cycles. Kandi mentioned visiting several people in prison over the years – I do not think she was out of line in offering her observation or opinion – it’s hers to make. Furthermore the disproportionate numbers of who is incarcerated in America are cause for reflection and question. I don’t agree that Apollo falls in that category, however. A. Whether or not Phaedra was giving Apollo enough money to live lavishly, I don’t know. But he was certainly supported. B. Apollo had plenty of opportunities to make money legally via the show. Because I don’t get the impression that Kandi has a great deal of love lost at the moment for Apollo, I am not convinced that the comment was so intended to be about him but rather an impression that she has held. As I understand it Apollo’s sentence was relatively lenient anyway.
I was done with Kandi after watching her and Todd’s wedding mini-series, with her ‘African’ (in her head) “Coming to America” dance, which prefaced her grand royal entrance , and before that Kandi’s brief but, very intense incidences of wild-eyed anger which boardered on rage, which rivaled her mother, Joyce’s, ghetto ways especially about Kandi’s money, and more specifically, her purposeful withholding of her proposed Prenuptial Agreement from Todd, to pointedly create urgency, which ideally would prompt Todd to sign the document, as exploitative as it is, under duress.
Frankly, in Todd’s shoes, I’d tell Kandi to postpone the wedding, to fairly and reasonably allow Todd and his counsel sufficient time to review Kandi’s prenup AND, if necessary, to negotiate terms which are found to either be unfair and/or punitive. If Kandi got all Joyce-like in his face, he would have been wise to postpone their wedding for an indefinite amount of time, which, among other factors may hinge on Kandi’s demeanor, willingness to politely negotiate her prenup and compromise when appropriate to ensure that their prenuptial agreement is equally fair to BOTH marital partners.
Before viewing that wedding special, I was a fan of Kandi’s, who loyally watched her spin-offs (and even enjoyed the “Kandi Factory” show), but after the wedding special, no more. Count me among fair minded others on #TeamTodd.
You aren’t alone.
Ma’am, please. It is well documented that black men are sentenced much more heavily than white for identical crimes. Do some research before you clutch the pearls. It is a fact that a white felon has a better chance of getting hired than a college educated black man with no record. And additionally, the rate of unemployment for black males has been double that of white males since they have been keeping a record of the numbers.
Just….did it say anything about REPEAT offenders?
Does Phaedra shave the back if her head? I was so darn distracted every time she turned around. Someone slipped up with the clippers.
I was back and forth with Apollo in this episode. However, he has a point in regards to his children. Yes he royally screwed up and it is fine that she decided not to stand by him but at least let him enjoy his last few days with his children.
I am excited for this season. TT I am patiently waiting on your WWHL recap with Leakes. I cant stand to watch her and depend on you so I can stay in the loop.
I know…her whole hair line is jacked up. It looks like someone put a bowl on her head and shaved around the edges. And to top it off the back of her neck doesn’t help her look. I don’t think that bun hairdo does anything for her, but I did like when she had her hair down and flat ironed in her tslking heads. I have no doubt that Apollo will be singing like a canary. Especially once he starts to stew on the fact that he’s in jail and she’s out trying portray herself as the bewildered wife who never had a clue what he was up to. What “good name” did she expect to keep after marrying someone fresh out of prison?
Phay Phay ain’t got no time for peas on her neck! Of course she shaves it.
Felt bad for her. Apollo was so pissed and out of control I was sure he was going to try and drag Phaedra into his mess.
Apollo never wanted to answer any of Phaedra’s questions in the past and would get pissed when she did, claiming she wasn’t going to control him.
I think he used Kendra to draw attention away from his shady business.
Porsche. Ignorant as hell, still.
Kinda weird an 18 year old is moving in with Kandi and Todd. Did his daughter ever live with him? Mama Joyce is going to have a hella season!
Bring on new talent these chicks are boring with Cynthia leading the pack.
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Ughhhhhh…why am I feeling bad for Apollo? Why? He stole money from innocent people and deserves jail. What is wrong with me? (I’m only halfway through, so maybe I’ll straighten out soon once I see what Tamara recapped.)
The way Phaedra’s deflecting makes you feel *kind of* bad for Apollo.
I’ll add this, too: see Teresa Giudice? That’s unabashed entitlement. She visibly has no remorse, much less a real clue. As for Apollo, he acknowledges what he did (not saying it’s a choice or accomplishment), and he *looks* broken. He was stupid and got played, hence the rage. I don’t necessarily feel bad for him as a crook is a crook. But he was still a pawn for Phaedra to some degree, and she needs to go. Her stans too.
What is up with the elephant? Am I the only one distracted…..
THAT was funny. I literally laughed out loud when I read your post. But, that little elephant sure is cute.
Click th link….on the side of the page is a link to a performance art piece from Ukraine’s Got Talent. It is a beautiful touching performance. Sorry TT, I know off the topic.
Its gone now 🙁
OHHHHHH……HE’s BACK!
@ Natalie… Finally…. Thank you
It’s back…and everywhere. Even followed the link. Elephant overload.
It could be in reference to the historically black sorority, Delta Sigma Theta (Elephants are their symbol). Either Phay or one of the other housewives is a Delta or maybe someone in production.
I kind of feel bad for Apollo. I mean she clearly outwitted him and used him. He should just get a ghostwriter and out her alleged misdeeds. He could easily pay for the proceeds with his book sales. I, for one would buy such a book. She’s a good liar. Anyone, that medicated would not misbehave, she seems so blah. I feel no sadness for her. She knew what she was doing.
* Oopsie. Distracted…..My bad. *He could easily pay a portion of his 1.9 million debt with the proceeds from his book. When, he’s released, whenever that will be……
This episode sucked. Premiere’s usually do. It’s like the stench from last season is still lingering. I’m so ready for TeamPretty! I really want Kenya to get it together and stop with the pity party. She should be paying Porsha dust. But I’m sure being assaulted, robbed, and insulted repeatedly takes it’s toll.
And Phaedra makes me sick to my stomach. I truly believe she is genuinely evil and corrupt. Kandi is too far up her ass.
Porsha hates Kenya
Kenya hates Porsha
Phaedra hates Kenya
Kenya hates Phaedra
Nene hates Cynthia & everrrbody
Cynthia hates Nene
It’s really not going to be too believable that all these women are going to be hanging out on camera doing stuff & traveling. It is all too forced.
I agree but at this point the RHW franchised is defined by grown women hating and fighting each other and at this point anyone that chooses to join that circus is nothing but one of Andy’s new freaks
I’m telling ya, Nene has a limited contract and isn’t going to film with the group much at all, that is why she is trying to make it seem like it was her decision to leave. Most all we see of her will be her and Greg or her and Porsha or maybe Phaedra here and there.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thanks! Less to fast forward through. She is unwatchable.
Phaedra disgusts me. She’s a manipulating lying POS. I don’t condone what Apollo did, and he’s a criminal using the same excuses most criminals use, “what else could I do to make money but illegal sht”?!?! But I’m not him, I think he REALLY feels that way, that’s his truth. I did feel bad for him when he recognized that he couldn’t believe he made the same mistake & followed in his moms footsteps…a mom who was not there for her kids Bc of an addiction. Now he won’t be there for his own kids. Takes a big person to even say that out loud let alone on TV. I don’t believe either, they’re both liars. I believe what I read here, facts Tamara Tattles writes.
I CANT BELIEVE KANDI TOLD THE WORLD that black men get sentenced harder!!!! I reminded that Bc I had to hear that once more. Even NENE was stumped when Andy asked her what she thought. OMG Kandi it’s 2014, move the Fuk on. Apollo he COULD HAVE gotten 30 yrs but got 8!! He HAS ALREADY served time in prison!! A LONG TIME. I would say he was hit VERY LIGHTLY. I kinda always knew Kandi was ignorant but I like her, so I was in denial. Anyone who blindly has someone’s back JUST Bc they’re her mom or friend…is ignorant. So basically, if her “mama Joyce” murdered someone Kandi would think she was shouldn’t get in trouble. Yes people. That’s TRUTH. By the way Kandi looked really pretty in her interviews too. I agree the only one who looked WACK was nene.
God Cynthia IS so damn GORGEOUS.
But, blacks do get tougher sentences. That is just a fact. It’s well documented and even though Apollo deserves a tough sentence because of his crimes and his prior record, it doesn’t negate the truth. 2014 or not, blacks get tougher sentences for the same crimes.
Someone needs to read my plea deal posts where the Federal sentencing guidelines are posted. It’s not a racial thing, it’s a how expensive of an attorney can you afford who can weedle you a bunch of downward departures thing. It’s all about the money, money, money. And Apollo had a fantastic lawyer who got him a term of under five years on a 30 year sentence. VERY lenient. $$$
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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And when I say that blacks get tougher sentences for the same crimes, I am not saying that this has anything to do with Apollo. This is just a well documented fact. It may have to do with financial status, but statistically, it is still true.
He has already been arrested and has/is serving twice for stealing. Why would any one who worked their ass off take a chance of hiring a thief? As far as statisics, it has been shown time and time again that certain races are multiple offenders. When you are a multiple offender you get a harder sentence cause apparently the first time you were too stupid to catch a clue. My parents were abuse drug addicts and alcoholics, the bs that people have a bad childhood in poor areas is just that BS. I have never been arrested or broke the law, cause I knew better! I also agree with TT, it’s all about the lawyer aka the money. Most low income people including the “sterotyped black man” can’t afford an attorney or if they do not a good one. Which is why their sentences are tougher out the gate. If I went a violently robbed a store and got a public defender , my ass wouldnt see the light of days for many years, but if I did it and had money for a pricey lawyer, I would be on probation. As far as rehabilitation, in Ga the Govenor has made a drug court to rehabilitate drug users instead of prison. All races included. It’s 2014, people need to grow up and be responsible for their own actions.
It has ALOT to do with finances. Blacks make up a large percentage of lower economic classes. Lower economic classes make up the majority of prisoners. Therefor a lot of poor blacks are in prison. It sucks. Apollo will be fine. He has money and is cute. I’m sure he will be the bell of the ball in there.
They do. You can research Dr. Umar Johnson’s stats on who catches the most time for the smallest statues; e.g. 90 years for stealing cell phones? One man got a lot of time for stealing a slab of ribs. They arresting people for feeding the homeless, so if the homeless steals food they get slapped with time like they committed a murder. And the ones that do kill, get off, like G.Z. Please check the stats, Kandi didn’t lie about that.
You’re confusing small town local judges with FEDERAL SENTENCING. The feds have a very complex system. But yes, here in the ATL area, we just sent someone to jail for decades over a cell phone. It’s crazy.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thank you, TT! Now, people, move on!
The newest Apolloism: the misuse of the word “deprivating”.
Was he trying for “degrading” in that scene? I don’t speak side-ways stupid so I don’t know.
On WWHL NeNe came off like a caricature of herself, from her caked on makeup to her constant bragging about being on Broadway. Hasn’t she learned anything from watching Teresa brag about herself in the first couple of seasons? Now Bravo is playing back those same scenes while she eats her words. NeNe should be careful or the same could happen to her.
Everyone said NeNe had a 5 o’clock shadow, with that makeup.
I did notice a bit of a mustache, I just thought it was where her drink washed her light makeup off above her lip.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Her makeup looked like she asked her glam squad to make her up like Kim Kardashian!
I think she says that everyday, I’m not even joking,
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Watching this episode reminds just how much Kandi doesn’t get the marriage thing. She is all about herself all the time. She is no better than Phaedra, she just cut Todd from the herd to get her pregnant. She is just like Joyce, all Kandi all the time. In the previews she gets all up in Todd’s mama’s face when she mouthed off about Joyce but shrugs her shoulders when Joyce says and does horrible things to Todd, Carmen, his family. Calling Kandi ghetto is doing a real disservice to hood rats. She is a nasty piece of trash. And she might be able to write songs but her singing is really bad. everything has to be her way or the highway, it’s gonna be a long life for Todd.
This episode was laughable. Phaedra trying to portray herself as a victim. HA! HA! HA! Seriously!!! Really? Her tail is knee deep in it!!!! You mean to tell me as his wife, she did not know this man was doing something illegal? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! A person with an I.Q. of less than zero can know she is lying her tail off. As my mother would say, “something in the milk ain’t clean”. She knew exactly what he was into. No pay stubs, no W2’s. Come on. REALLY!!! I’m telling you. The FEDS are crawling up her backside with a microscope. If I was looking for an attorney, I would RUN, not walk, the other way. Her record is extremely spotty and sporadic. That along with her judgement, is extremely questionable.
I felt like every time Phaedra talked, she made sure to make the point very strongly that she did not have anything to do with Apollo’s crimes.
I’m sure the authorities will be watching the series closely and Phaedra knows this. She will learn from Tre’s mistakes. Let’s see how long the facade will last.
When I say I was *itching* to come read here… ^_^
–“Why is Nene putting a wigcap on over her wig?”
I asked the exact same thing. She’s gotta keep the charade going; remember, she’s ‘fabolous.’ That leopards, ramen noodle wig, etc–she didn’t look like Miss Kitty, but a *dead* kitty. Even on WWHL, Andy continued kissing NeNe’s ass, likening her to Marilyn Monroe. She insists on wearing those longer wavy wigs, too, and always comes out looking like Madea. But she always has to bash other people, their looks and their bank accounts…
–“Is it because he looks cute in his talking head that this is starting to make sense to me?”
The prior.
And Dylan/Mr. President is looking more and more like the DJ guy every time we see him.
Also, it’s amazing seeing how horribly Phaedra’s trying to save face. Worse are the dummies buying it–the vast majority. That’s why I’m probably staying off Twitter most of the season.
I swear it seems like the only place teresa and phaedra seems to have delusional fans is twitter which makes me wonder who are they paying to tweet in support of their BS
I’m a Tre and Aviva fan. Yeah that’s right we do exist ;).
Ramon Noodle Wig!!!! Bwahahahaha
Hilarious !
Stop what you are doing and go watch this! I gotta go blog Pump Rules!
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2014/11/10/angela-stanton-gets-a-psychic-reading-on-phaedra-parks-situation/
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Did Apollo act as the contractor for their home? When he was talking to his brother he said something like — ‘all this is because of me / or I built this house? Either way, I’m sure all those he stole from were thrilled to see where their money went. (He’s s got a nice body but too much of a baby face for me – I liked the beard & moustache but it looks like he used the wrong shade of Grecian Formula or left it in way too long.)
Re Nene’s leopard dress — Hopefully she just didn’t have time to change after a Zumanity rehearsal & it won’t be showing up in her “fashion line”.
Sarah, did you miss the episode where Apollo bull dozed the house that was there and then single handedly built the current one? Bawahaha, Apollo shut up!
I’m watching now and was just shocked at how bad Nene looked in her Zumanity get-up. Not only did she look terrible, but also looked like she did a terrible job. I thought she was an “actress”. Good gracious! Sure hope she does a better job in Cinderella. Seem that she knows that she didn’t do well and blamed it on the fact that “I’ve never been in an orgy before”!
Yeah, that’s where ACTING comes in. For example, Tom Hanks has never been a WWII soldier… But he portrays one in movies by ACTING! Crazy shit, huh!
Here’s my take on episode 1 (by the way, I don’t have a dog in this fight):
Nene is being Nene while Greg is being Greg
Kandi and Todd have a bumpy road ahead
Phaedra gets the benefit of the doubt from me and I like this directness so much more than the silly southern charm thing
Kenya, Cynthia, and Apollo get no sympathy from me – you reap what you soe in your individual ways
Peter just go away – I don’t like you
Porsche who?
And, was it just me or did Cynthia look really puffy in the face in her scene with Kenya? I don’t know why that thought struck me when I was watching that scene.
Your opinion be received well here.
Angel(?) no it isn’t just you. I thought the same thing about Cynthia’s face looking puffy. I’ve always thought she was a beautiful woman but with her hair done the way it was, she reminded me of the Cowardly Lion from Wizard of Oz. I thought it was just me till I read your post. Thought I needed to replace my bifocals lol.
Glad it wasn’t just me. And she usually has great fashion, but that high neck 1980’s blouse, what was that? Hmmmm……puffy face…..high neck collar….are we sure the marriage “is better than ever”? Yes I’m being evil trying to start a rumor, I don’t like Peter! Sorry Cynthia.
TT….a while back, you brought up Apollo always saying “at the end of the day”. I now notice every fucking time he says this, along with, it seems, a dozen other Bravolebreties, and it is said Alot! Everytime, I always think, thanks TT! 🙂 Drives me fuckin crazy! Crazy, I tell you! IDGI
Sorry. It’s true, once it starts to bother you, you notice that rarely a show on any channel without someone saying it.
True, I have even noticed on my beloved Discovery ID channel
Ha ha I was thinking, “God can this goddamn day just END so I don’t have to keep hearing about the end of the day???”
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I didn’t think I could have a lower opinion of Phaedra than I already had, but damn if she didn’t sink even further. I mean, she almost made me feel sorry for Apollo. (I said almost!) Yes, he is the scum of the Earth, but Phaedra picked him, Phaedra married him, and Phaedra knew damn well what she was getting when she did so. Now suddenly she can’t be bothered. What scum she is too. The coup de grâce for me was when she was yelling at him about his choices and damage to her reputation, all while calling him selfish! That’s some amazing cognitive dissonance at work there. Stunning. And that’s if you believe she knew nothing of his criminal actions. (I don’t.) If she did know, or was involved, the hypocrisy of that argument is off the charts!
As for that reputation of hers which she seems to hold so dear: I don’t think anyone would blame her if he had stood by and supported Apollo. It might even show some strength of character. I remember how Christina Ferrare stood steadfast by John DeLorean all through his “legal issues”; she waited for it all to be over, then she divorced him! No one thought the worse of her for it. Same with Lynda Carter. She’s still married to her husband, but no one blamed her for standing by him during his trial. If anything, it was the opposite; she was a devoted wife, a woman of substance. For a “good Christian” woman, Phaedra was sure quick to forget “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future” and “Hate the sin, love the sinner”, etc. All that Christian tolerance seems to have flown out the window.
It was very enlightening to see Apollo’s mother and brother. Now that was some Trailer Trash! (Yes, with capital T’s) It explains a lot about Apollo I think. Didn’t Phaedra say he was from a middle-class background? Feh. More of her lies.
Not much interesting yet with the other ladies. I couldn’t even watch the NeNe scenes…just Oh God No. Can’t take her constant bragging and braying. I’m sorry to see there will be more Mama Joyce ratchet-ness this season. Enough with her already. Just let Kandi and Todd’s marriage disintegrate on its own!
I agree about Phaedra…the whole time I watched, all I could say is that is one cold Bitch. That is her husband and the father of her children and she showed him no love whatsoever. It was sad. If my husband did something illegal, I would be hurt that he did not think of the long run repercussions but that is my husband and if the money stolen was money to provide for me and our family, this would have been a bitter sweet moment. I lay next to my husband every night, we discuss our days over dinner and often times commute to and from work together to save on gas. There is no way as his wife did she not know that he was into illegal activities. Karma has and will continue to bite Phaedra in the ass. I hope her sons are strong enough to love Apollo though-out the bullshit, I am almost glad they will have the RHOA to look back on to see their father and their mother. I bet when they get older their views of her will change drastically.
My mother has always protected me and my sister and I did not know of my fathers “mistakes” as a child. My father was the apple of my eye and is still to this day with knowing the last 28 years of my parents marriage has not been all sunshine and rainbows. That is what a mother does who are trying to protect her children…..I just loved my mother and father as my parents. The differences in their marriage was never my issue. Thank God! I do feel sorry for their children…
Regarding trailer trash….That’s right Miss Phaedra, we white trailer trash folk do like eating everything out of a can. Dang, if I didn’t stick
up on Ravioli, Spaghetti O’s, and Beefaroni the kids might starve while I’m at the bar! LMAO, I understand Phaedra’s stupid comment better now!
Damn it, I deleted my comment before posting!! I caught all the points you posted, TT. NeNe has delusions of grandeur. Porsha said to take “credit” for your mistakes. Kandi thinks Apollo’s sentence was racially biased.
The one thing that surprised me was Phaedra clearing her name. MANY people believed she initially married Apollo for opportunistic purposes. We will leave that here. Phaedra AND Producers made it clear that she wasn’t involved. I actually felt sorry for Phaedra.
Now, can we talk about how Bravo recorded Watch What Happens Live as a RHOA episode at 9 on my DVR???
I don’t have DVR, so I’m assuming; I think the DVR thing has to do with the off-the-clock schedule at Bravo (think ‘TVLand’). I find it annoying.
Why would you explain the DVR to the rest of us when you don’t have one and we do. This is a fine example of you just making up weird shit in your head and commenting as if it is some fact.
The reason that WWHL was DVRed as because they programmed RHOA to record for an extra 90 minutes. This benefits the ratings for WWHL. ABC or whatever network Madam Secretary is on programs it to run an hour after the show airs so that Good Wife also tapes (and gets the ratings credit) it’s a way to scam the advertisers out of more money.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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”Why would you explain the DVR to the rest of us when you don’t have one and we do. This is a fine example of you just making up weird shit in your head and commenting as if it is some fact.”
Because I’m making an observation. Not once did I claim it as fact–the qualifiers “assuming” and “think.” I’ve had DVR before, so yes, it is a qualified guess, not a unicorn theory.
OH unicorn! That’s it. That is what I should start calling you. Or my little pony. Is there a unicorn my little pony? 🙂
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I live with a MLP expert….There are ponies, unicorns, pegsus, and platforms. I would suggest the name Twilight for a girl or Shinning Armor for a guy. LMAO 🙂
That would be alicorn not platform.
Believe what you want. Next week Kenya AND Producers will make it clear she had no sexual involvement with Apollo.
Yeah, he made the whole thing up, he pretty much said that in Mexico but for some reason he was on an apology tour at the party. I’m surprised he was so snippy on camera. My understanding was he was apologizing to everyone before going in.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Apollo must have thought he’d get a jump on his NA/AA drug counseling get out of jail early program ahead of time. Plus he gets to irritate Phaedra again by talking to Kenya when he knows it makes her crazier than usual.
Did anyone think it was odd that Phaedras mom was in the scenes with her? I remember when we first met Phaedra how she was vague about her due date with her baby because of her mother. Maybe Phaedra is more concerned with her mothers opinion of her than her husbands.
Not surprised at all Phaedra is NEVER alone with the children.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I could never have a conversation like that in front of my mother…come on now…
I hate to say it, I understand where apollo is coming from. He’s so dumb and naive, Phaedra got pregnant so she persuaded him to marry her. My ex was just like him. He made the dumbest decisions but he wasn’t selfish at all. He’d give me his last dollar if I asked. Phaedra’s horrible acting is getting worse with this stress she is under. I believe all that Apollo was saying, because why would he lie now? Also, I could not stop looking a the baby and comparing him to apollo while he was holding him lol.
I believed Apollo too. I thought it was interesting the way he said he had not brought any grief on her. I think that was Apollo for I didn’t tell them about your involvement so you still have all of your money and your freedom to live in the house and the boys. So you could have at least shown up and court and given a statement asking for leniency.
Also, I was SHOCKED that Phaedra kept saying paps were at here house. There have never been any there, ever. No one is taking pictures of her kids. The only people paying her any attention are the neighbors.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Agree re: not bringing grief upon Phaedra = kept his mouth shut.
Re: the paparazzi: I also kept thinking HOW DUMB to lie about something so easy to prove false!
TT, That’s exactly what Appollo was saying to Phaedra and her mother. Plus I want a divorce.because I’m tired of looking stupid for you on Bravo. Have my shit together when I get home or else, and put money on my books bitch!
I believed Apollo too and like some of the other commenters, I actually felt a tiny pang of sympathy for him. Reality all came crashing down on him regarding who Phaedra really is, and it was amazing to see that on camera. The line he said about being a “good specimen” made me think about the reunion when Phaedra gave us that rehearsed line about Kenya and the sperm bank. She said Kenya wouldn’t know if her sperm donor was an axe murderer or a child molester… well we know her “specimen” is a career criminal and felon with an I.Q. of about 80 and red neck genes. Funny how most of Phaedra’s “reads” about other people’s relationships have come back to haunt her. I know we all remember her “clean man” comments to Cynthia about Peter. Phaedra’s clean man stole millions of dollars and dumped her donkey ass right before heading off to the clink. Now check that.
Oh wow, Nene’s makeup on WWHL tonight is a must see.
I just cant with her. She has to make sure we all know she’s on Broadway, blah blah blah! If I were taking shots every time she has said “I’m on Broadway”, I would be drunk!! Who cares if she’s on Broadway. She’s basically only a fill in for Sherri Shepard who was obviously smart enough to negotiate playing the part that included the holiday months off. Nene was not their first choice, obviously.
Am I the only one who didn’t think it was bad? I actually thought it was better than usual.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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On my TV the top half of her face was very light and the bottom half very dark. It was a huge contrast with a definite line under her nose and curved under her cheekbones. The facial makeup looked very thick. The wig was flattering and softened her huge features and made her neck look pretty. Probably the best she’s ever looked except for the drastic contrast of colors on her face.
I think the overall look was better than normal, it’s just that the makeup itself looked extremely caked on. I did like the hairstyle tho.
What was up with her nose? The shape seems to have changed since filming has resumed. I think Cynthia’s face may have been swollen from some facial procedure like botox or she may have had swelling from drinking too much prior to filming. All of you all are funny and I needed the laugh. 😀 RFLMAO
That’s funny Lindy! Because I thought the middle of her face was much lighter than the sides lol. It looked like a light was beaming down the middle of her face. 🙂
I agree. Her make-up was better looking…but the mustache/drink line or whatever it is…was distracting. I like NeNe in ANY other wig than the one she passes off as ‘Her’ hair!
Even though Nene had a nose job, I believe she’s still self-conscious about it. Whoever did her makeup, applied a lighter powder to her entire face but covered her nose in brown eyeshadow(?) / bronzer(?) It gave her a very odd appearance. Couldn’t stop staring at it. Almost made her look devoid of a nose (like a jack-o-lantern).
I’m not even trying to be mean when I say her nose is bigger than it was after the SECOND nose job. Is there some dread disease that causes your nose to grow? Pinocchio Syndrome or something? I’m serious. I’m rather hypochondriacal and if that were me, I’d be at the doctor’s office bracing for the diagnosis.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Contouring gone bad?
And I thought a Man’s Nose and Ears got bigger with age? No shade. I thought this was a thing?!
That is a fact that makes you go hmmmmm.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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So many things to say about this episode but the main thing I was left thinking was….MOST of these women are delusional!! My heart hurt for Phaedra and Apollo’s kids. I think at the core of Apollo he is a good person and CAN be honest. I don’t feel that way about Phaedra. He screwed up when he got out of prison and decided to go back to a life of dishonesty and fast money. I don’t feel sorry for him because he knew what consequences his actions would produce. I just hope that when he gets out after this stint in prison, that he changes his ways for the benefit of his children and himself. Phaedra’s doing him a HUGE favor by divorcing him.
Nene is just well….mean hearted and narcissistic . I don’t know how this woman is a mother who is worth anything. IMO! Porsha on tv at that photo shoot in that string of fabric is so, well..I was embarrassed for her. Bravo kept her on as a FOH clearly as entertainment…NICE HOUSE, NO FURNITURE!!!!
I’m watching WWHL with Nene and Andy just asked her about where HER check was for $20K that would match Kenya’s donation to Detroit Public Schools…..she says “The statue of limitations ran out on that, that was a long time ago”! Guess she’s not paying up!! She’s so damn arrogant and fucking bitchy! Puhlease Lineathia!!
I think what Apollo was trying to say without actually saying it is he’s taking all the heat for her and she’s throwing him to side. Phaedra should be worried about Apollo turning on her. He’s definitely not innocent but neither is Phaedra. She’s just as guilty as he is, but just more believable.
Has Nene’s show opened?
Are the reviews out on Nene yet?
Access Hollywood is on NBC out here.
Access Hollywood Live is a different thing, it may just be on the Internet.
Also all the info on Nene’s play is linked in the post. Click Cinderella or whatever. Actually that may be in the next post down about nene in the access live post.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Kandi saying that Apollo’s sentence was a bit harsh made me laugh. If it were HER money that he had taken, she would have wanted his balls nailed to the wall.
The only thing funnier was Apollo giving his list of demands on what he expects to have waiting for him upon his return from prison…to his demands I say, “Child, please!”
Sad episode with Apollo and Phadrea. I think he’s seeing a differnt side of her! Change of subject: What happened to Cynthia’s face?
I actually felt bad for Apollo after watching this episode. No, I don’t feel a bit of sympathy that he is going to serve time, he broke the law, but his wife and children should have been there to say a possible last goodbye before court. I also don’t think it’s fair Phaedra’s mom kept chiming in when Appllo and Phaedra were arguing. Mom should have taken the baby and left the room.
Boo-hoo, Kenyas upset over Porscha hitting her. Cry me a river, don’t care.
Did Cynthia get some work done? The Botox is obvious but something else is different with her face. Also, is Cynthia saying Nene was causing problems in her marriage because she spent so much time with her? If so, girl, that’s on you. If Cynthia’s marriage is better because Nene is no longer her friend, Cynthia is to blame for putting Nene before her marriage.
Looks like it’s going to be a very interesting season.
I’m old enough to remember when these shows used to be light hearted and fun to watch.
You’re old enough to remember black and white shows where you had to get up to change the channel on the dial and get it right it the sweet stop while holding the antenna.
What? I’m just saying.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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And we use to leave the channel on a show we didn’t want to watch because it was too much trouble to get up and change it. Everything was better in those days. Now get off my lawn.
This episode sounds very juicy. Shame I’m stuck on Hayman Island so I can’t watch it yet…
I just googled Hayman Island. I am now testing the theory to see if one can in fact die of jealousy. OMG that’s lovely.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I don’t know why the HWs have to go Bali instead of here. Oh wait I do; no elephant dicks, too expensive, wont allow television crew. #noHWriffraff
What’s going on on Hayman Island?…love Australia
Had to extend the trip a few more days. It’s just too relaxing here. Went on the jetskis yesterday through all the islands. Today after the free breakfast with unlimited champagne and bloody marys it’s time to make claim to a section of the pool. Pics will be tweeted for all who are concerned for my safety.
I just guessing what is going on on Hayman Island is drunkenness and slutty behavior. Michael sent me a picture on Twitter. Of the resort. Not the drunkenness and slutty behavior. He’s torturing me. Follow me on Twitter if you dare.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Ugh I hope this whole Apollo and Phaedra drama doesn’t take up the whole season. I know Bravo lives for felon drama but I really just wasn’t feeling it.
I honestly don’t know what to think of Phaedra’s involvement in Apollos seedy underworld at this point; if she was truly involved, as all evidence points, I don’t think Apollo, in all his anger and stupidly, could help but say it and call her out as they air all their dirty laundry for the world to see.
I guess my gauge is just fucked up because we’re not dealing with normal people here – I even have a hard time believing they would film their first meeting together after she missed court and after all that time being apart.
And LOL at the caricatures of Apollo in court. If anyone watches it again, pause on the first one – there’s a blonde woman in the background giving Apollo the fuck eye and the artist captured it perfectly. OMG and I loved him giving the interview to the one reporter that showed up after we were told here only one bothered to come.
LMFAO!
It is wrong in so many ways for Phaedra to be sitting in a penthouse pretending to be so innocent but so educated, while her husband is being sentenced for stealing millions. She had a responsibility as a mother and officer of the court to use common sense and pay attention to how her x con husband made money. Not to put him in a position of vulnerability. I do not believe for a minute that she is not a controlling wife with her nose and more in all of Apollo’s business. She is just mad he got caught. She is doing him like she did Angela. She is gone when the heat is on.
I said all along that Todd should have run for his life from Mama Joyce, and the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. Now he’s got to deal with Mama Kandi. Go ahead and use her, then loose her. Another one that bought herself a sperm donor.
I’m surprised that she hasn’t lost her licence to practice law. It has a lower ethical threshold for its revocation in comparison to criminal prosecution. One would think that being married to a newly convicted felon would tip off the ethics committee.
I think Phaedra’s response to people commenting on why she married him straight out of jail, would be that she thought he was a changed man. Well anyone can say they’ve changed but the only real way to know if they really have changed is to allow time to go by. She didn’t do that, and I can’t help but to believe there was a reason why. I think he was a good looking pawn she could dress up and put in front of the cameras and he was ripe for the pickn’. Someone she could use to do her dirty work. I think he is burning to tell everything but won’t because he believes his children need their mother and because of that she may get off scott free.
We saw Kenya get slapped and dragged on national tv. We saw Phaedra be a cold-hearted witch tonight. People believe Phaedra, with her acting, and not Kenya’s tears.It’s sick.I hate double binds.
I didn’t think that many people believe Phaedra. But, you’re probably right!
It’s kind of strange to think that Apollo has already been in prison for almost two months now, and we’re watching how his life played out before he went. I know Phaedra didn’t have the strength of character to show up to her huzzzband’s sentencing, but I’m at least hoping she’s put some money on his books. I would be really surprised it she has though.
Are you an Orange is the New Black fan? That’s where I go to for my advice on what Tre and Apollo are in for. I kind of hope Tre has a Piper moment and comes out a giant bitch.
Love OITNB!! I went through the last season in a week ( it was summer break).
Well she’s going in being a giant bitch if that counts.
Well to be fair, she is going in an entitled naive bitch like Piper, who became a bit of a brutal, self aware well informed bitch towards the end. I guess for some prison forces you to look into yourself.
(It’s only a TV show, just FYI. I believe the book is more realistic.)
I believe life is more realistic. Who can really prepare?
Micheal, you are officially my TvBoo!! We watch all the same shows! If Tre has a Piper moment, I pray that Bravo pays for the exclusive!
*In topic* – Kandi & Todd’s marriage will last as long as Porsha’s attention span…NeNe& Greg are YAWNtastic…I have a major GirlCrush on Cynthia, she looked Great…Kenya is a mess but she’s FUN to watch…Phaedra is up shit rock’s creek with a broken paddle and once Apollo start talking, she’s really gonna be hiding from the REAL press….as opposed to the imaginary press that was outside her house. Delusional or a liar….or both? :-/
I hated this episode. I do not enjoy the emphasis on sentencing and preparations for prison sentences – between RHONJ and RHOA Bravo has begun to feel like A&E.
On another note – did Todd and Kandi have a conversation about ANYTHING before deciding to get married?
First, what the hell happened to Cynthia’s face? She either had some sort of facelift or, more likely, pumped full of injectables. Awful. Did no one else notice this? Look at the flashbacks. She has beautiful planes to her face and now she looks like a puffy face like when Madonna shot herself filled with all that crap- she’s pulled and puffy. Hope that’s injectables so they go away because she’s beautiful. Now, P & A. I say that was all rehearsed & for the cameras. I think her whole deal of staying away & being pissed was to try to pretend she knew nothing. Of course, we’ll never see her talk about the real issue- where did she think he was getting all that $? He talks here about the pressure to pay the $3200 mortgage- where the hell did he have THOUSANDS to blow at the strip club ALL the time that she ADMITTED to knowing about? What did she think his job was? I do believe his point that he felt pressure from her, and I do think he genuinely was pissed she wasn’t there. But this was all drama for the cameras IMO to try to save her ass. Aside, Aiden is the cutest little guy. Nene was more fun loving and less venomous here so more fun to watch. Claudia looks like she’s gonna be bringin it this season as well.
Hi TT
After seeing Phaedra back of her bald kitchen last night I damn near peed myself. I was so darn distracted as well..LOL!…Can’t wait until Apollo really start talking he needs to write a book and put an end to the mystery “Is Phaedra involved with his crimes and Angela Stanton that’s the question on everyone’s minds. “So over all of these women and Ms. Rich Bitch Nene is so damn arrogant and full of wasted shit!!!!
Tamara you are so ignorant and have a lot of biased hate. How do I remove you from my updates. I tried and can’t find a way to remove you!
Welcome to the Hotel California!
That was funny 🙂
You can never leave!
LOL! Great reply and awesome wit.
I LOVE IT!
Seriously, can I make a comment about Porsha being more than a little too meaty for that wretched bikini/thong thing she was wearing? She ain’t going to find another man to {allegedly} be a beard for with that ass. And someone please pass the Phaedra Parks bathing suit Strength Eye Bleach
Are you old? Because hideously large asses are somehow a thing in 2014. Folks are getting a bag of cement from the home depot injected in their ass. It’s like the world is insane. Can the return of the Rubenesque era’s return be far away? This fat chick is waiting with ANTICI……pation. 🙂
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m getting pretty old, and I get the whole giant ass thing, but it was the cottage cheese on such a young girl that shocked me….AND she has jelly belly….This fat chick is waiting with Anti…pasto to bring back sexy 🙂
LOL I do not get the giant but thing. I get a nice plump round natural behind, but not these lump ones shot up with God knows what.
And pasta sounds delish.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I did not want to see Kenya cry for her 5 minute segment but I guess eventually the lies, being attacked and stolen from can be emotional. I hope she finds closure in this mess because no one likes a “victim” and no one especially likes a victim that they believe should be victimized.
I am glad Phaedra showed us the cold evil bitch she has always been without that southern bell shit. I felt bad for Apollo than felt nothing for him but he reminded me of my husband with that full beard and I definitely could not do to him what Phaedra is doing and has done to him over the years. I am sure she held all their money and dressed him up and gave him an allowance for his appearances with her. Their partnership was never about love or being a team, it was about her some dick. Who needs a husband when I have a team of people a mother that is always fucking around??
Porsha is a big dumb hoe. I hope her new tities and ass gets her exactly what she wants in life. She is barely pretty and cannot last on her looks alone.
Kandi…is a direct product of her mother. Its sad really. I like Todd!! I dont see them being married for long if Kandi doesnt compromise.
I like Cynthia, mainly because she is who she is. From the beginning to the end.
NeNe…I really hope this is her last season. Be done please, please move on to your bigger and better opportunities. Please. She alone can ruin this whole season.
This maybe off topic a little, but I just had a flashback to one of the reunion shows where Andy was asking Apollo what exactly did he do for a living. I remember Phaedra jumping in to explain that it was asset recovery and that he was basically helping people locate lost money. She can never say that she had no idea what he was doing, she just turned her head and refused to further acknowledge his dirty deeds.
That little baby looks NOTHING like Apollo. Not even a toe nail.
I am evil and totally going to hell. I laughed A LOT during the Apollo/Phaedra scenes.
When Apollo said something about not bringing hurt or something to her, I laughed so hard that my husband came out of his man cave to see what was going on.
I suspect that Phaedra’s coldness and rage towards him is more than the crimes. I firmly believe that he cheated on her multiple times and that is why she was so angry at Kenya for the flirting and ignoring Phaedra’s requests not to talk to Apollo. Phaedra was misdirecting her anger and projecting it on to Kenya rather than Apollo.
I look at last season, and there were so many times that Apollo was disrespectful to Phaedra and their marriage and instead of trashing Apollo, Phaedra attacked Kenya. At the time, I thought she was just in denial. Now, I think she was trying her best not to paint him in a bad light on tv and deflecting onto Kenya.
For him to throw himself a pity party now, was probably the last straw. So, whether she was involved in his criminal activities or not, I totally understand her coldness towards him. She got played HARD multiple times on camera and he is still making demands on her.
I also understand why Kandi has no use for Apollo. If she is Phaedra’s friend, she is most likely aware of Apollo’s cheating and knows just how much he disrespected their marriage.
So, while I was highly amused by Apollo’s attempts at gaining sympathy, I felt none for him at all. Which, means I am most likely an evil person with a cold dead heart.
“Which, means I am most likely an evil person with a cold dead heart.” Welcome to your posting home. You are among friends here. You can sit next to me, but not to close, because I hate people.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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‘Because I hate people’ my line.
Well, I like people. I just like them more, when they’re not around.
Exactly. That’s why Internet friends are perfect.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Tamara, you crack me up! I do think I have found a new home indeed, because I can’t bring myself to feel sympathy for any of these clowns. But, damn do they make me laugh.
Thank You Pagan. I fully agree. Because I don’t feel bad for Apollo. Or Phaedra. However, through my eye’s (and apparently your’s) I would’ve been cold also. Behind the gates. Right?!
Pretty sure you’re not the only two badasses here who have no sympathy for the Nidas.
I really do feel like I am home! My husband thinks I should show some sympathy for these people because they are in bad situations. I just think that these are situations they created for themselves and then they chose to go on TV so why should I feel bad?
But, I think we have already established that I am evil and probably have a large piece of flint where my heart should be.
Your husband is gay. Which is fine. I just thought you should know now that we are BFFs . 🙂
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh Tamara, you complete me! 🙂
I fast forwarded through most of the episode… I’ve said this many times and it still rings true: Phaedra is a fucking joke. I don’t care what anyone says, I’m HAPPY to see someone like her fall from grace and become exposed by her estranged husband.
Nene’s talking head interviews… the first one of the episode. WTF?!
Happy to see Cynthia. She looks amazing as always.
Can’t wait for Claudia to come on. I watch clips of her radio show online and I like her a lot!! Anyone that publicly denounces Phaedra/Nene gets an A in my book.
I just twitteded Claudia she was beautiful and she thanked me! She has good manners!
The first time Apollo was in prison, he plotted and planned what he thought was the better plan, this time, to steal money. And he got caught again. He needs to take responsibility for his actions. Her “good name”, she uses to take care of his children, yes, she should care about what people think. Apollo is too immature.
When will this fad be over? I am bored with women who go out and get tits or tattoos and then feel compelled to put them constantly on display as if it’s their finest achievement in life. Porsha just looked like she was trying too hard in that photo.
I know it’s wrong of me but I actually have some sort of sympathy for Apollo. The women in his life always let him down.
This is what is wrong with us as women. He’s so fuckable that we over look all the felonies. LOL. WE CAN CHANGE HIM!
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I can’t feel any sympathy for him. He married money and could have just been a house husband taking care of the kids. The way he treated his wife last season and all of the cheating rumors about him, make me think that he sabotaged himself. Maybe he was more comfortable in prison than he was out in the world, but I can’t blame the women in his life for the crimes he committed.
Or, what Tamara said. Phaedra was sprung on his looks and was willing to overlook his felonious nature because of it. She probably thought she could just control the purse strings and he would be so grateful that he would go along. Or, maybe she did think she could change him. I just know that he did this to himself.
Kandi needs to stfu about Apollo not being able to get a job when he gets out. That may be true for most people in prison, but even if Bravo completely turns their back on him (which they may or may not depending on which way the wind is blowing in 5 years) and reality tv isn’t an option for him, Peter, Todd and Kandi are in positions to help with employment options if they want. If they don’t (and who can blame them?), Apollo could become a certified personal trainer (assuming he’s not already) and work freelance until he can get a job with a gym. He’s built like a brick sh*t house. Dude could get clients from that, his contacts from his Bravo days/ notoriety, and fan ho’s galore if he works it. Personal trainers can make pretty decent livings. What I’m saying is he has options. He did what he did, is getting his wrist slapped for it and likely has better/ more options than most convicted felons for honest post prison employment.
I totally agree…
Will he be too old to be a male escort when he gets out? I’m asking for a friend.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh, uh, yeah, my friend was,wondering, too…
😉
Where is Apollo’s other brother…the one that looks more like him and went to jail too. I think they have the same mother and father.
If Apollo was able to steal all that money by being devious he surely could have started (some) type of legit business and made it work…it would be crazy if he now writes a tell (all)…what a juicy read that would be.
She lucky she had babies by Apollo because if it wasnt for those boys, he would be throwing her under the bus too.
Okay, so I am VERY over the Porsha attack at last reunion (and don’t get me started, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN BRAVO JUSTIFY CONTINUING TO EMPLOY HER????? GAAAAAARRRRRR!), but anyway… I’m just glad Kenya gets to say a bit about how she felt after the attack. They gave Porsha a great interview post-attack, and Kenya sure got the shaft.
Yes, it is over, and I hate to be Debbie Downer (I’d much rather be snarky!), but I do not doubt that Kenya suffers from some very real trauma due to the attack. It was brutal. And, yeah, I think it would be horrible to have your assault played again and again, the (TV) world debating if you “deserved” it. Victims experience all kinds of “irrational” feelings, including guilt and humiliation, and I do think Kenya probably had some things to work through. Though Kandi points out that Kenya is from Detroit, (so I guess she can take it?), Kenya doesn’t seem to be a physical fighter. I mean, her mind us quick and words are sharp! It’s unfortunate that Porsha can’t “use her words”–it’s like an extension of the ongoing Porsha temper tantrum. (And I’m done with Kandi, too. That was the last straw.)
Anyone, cast, crew, watching, whatever, EVERYONE should agree that assault is not justified if the victim is “bugging you”, and it doesn’t make any difference how likeable or unlikable the victim is.
I’m also glad Cynthia pointed out that only because the victim was Kenya did the others all run to check on Porsha. That was some fucked up shit.
That said, people fuck up. This is where the assailant can admit wrongdoing and APOLOGIZE. Don’t need to be buddies, but be an adult.
Oh shit, we’re talking Porsha. Ha ha Porsha and adult just don’t go together….
««END OF LECTURE»» Thanks for tuning in! 😉
I’m curious about whether or not Apollo could actually make any money from a tell all. Isn’t there something that prevents criminals convicted criminals from profiting from their crimes?
I’m also curious about Phaedra. It seems odd that the feds haven’t investigated her, if only to find out if she was an accomplice. It’s weird that she has gone untouched by this. I know she is a lawyer and all that, but I doubt she could outsmart the feds. And this seemed to be a major ring of criminals why haven’t any of them flipped on her to get a lesser sentence? I just don’t see Apollo as a mastermind, a hustler yes, but not a mastermind.
One other thing, I think that Cynthia is a beautiful woman. But, I also don’t think she is all that bright. I don’t think she should have married Peter. I don’t think she should have courted Nene’s friendship so hard. I don’t think she should be investing her money in Peter’s business. I certainly don’t think she should be blaming Nene for past problems in her marriage. She seems to want to just go along with whomever is most dominant in her life at the moment so that she can then have someone to blame when things go wrong.
But then, I don’t watch these shows to see women who are self aware, so it is fun to laugh at the ridiculousness of it all.
Son of Sam laws are generally only ever applied to violent crimes against individuals. Like killing Nicole Brown or raping someone, literally. White collar/drug/mafia people profit from their crimes all the time.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Good to know. I wasn’t sure what the deal was because I know Henry Hill wrote Goodfellas and had to have made money from it. But, then I remembered something about how criminals couldn’t profit from their crimes and got confused.
If that’s the case, then Apollo has a way to make legit money when he gets out.
Oh, I broke my ankle and am on percocet, so if my posts make no sense, let’s just say that’s why. 😉
Holy fuck! That was your lead story! How did you do that? Now I will be paranoid more than ever. I sprain the fuck out of one ankle or another all the time. #Cankles
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I better not tell you about my hip … 😀
I’ll listen to you whine about your hip, but when you start talking about your um, morning constitutional, I’ll have to draw the line, old man.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I have always denied that I was in the theater the night Lincoln was shot.
See Wolf of Wall Street
I like Phaedra, but I feel really grimy watching her dump on Apollo the way she did. 🙁 Callous doesn’t even begin to describe the way she treated this situation…
Just wondering….Could Apollo and Joe end up at the same prison? Roommates perhaps?
It’s possible but Joe will likely be closer to home. The actual Danbury correctional site is male now. (Not the camp where Tre wants to go. They only have a couple hundred female inmates there now.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Phaedra treated Apollo accordingly. He was a kept man who had an allowance. He wasn’t happy with his allowance so he went back to doing what he knows best. Of course Phaedra questioned where he got his money and I will go as far as to say she probably knew he was up to know good but I don’t believe she had anything to do with his illegal activites. The way things are going down I would think he’d have put her on blast by now…I know if I had anything to do with it I’d be kissing my husband’s butt to stay in his good graces. And yall giving Phaedra way too much credit if you think she has the connections to stop her own assets from being frozen. Phaedra ain’t stupid…she probably been preparing for this moment as soon as she realized what Apollo was up to. I must say I don’t blame Phaedra. Why does she have to stay with a man and support him when he is the one who put his entire family and his freedom on the line for the love of money.
IIRC some of those shell companies listed Phaedra as an officer. Allegedly. Which could have been done without her knowledge. Possibly.
She could have signed unknowing that they would be used illegally. Wives and partners do it all the time to set up the business/corporation(s) to incorporate and/or get business license(s). She probably had nothing to do with the every day working of the corp. My 30 year legal opinion(s)!!!
Umm no, did you see 2 seasons ago, when Kenya was working with both of them for the “workout” video!? During the “pay me” scene. Kenya was sharp enough to catch on to her shady (phae phae) ways but she was in complete control of the legal and negotiating aspects. Apollo just sat there like a dog watching a tennis game with his head going back and forth. I don’t think Phaedra would sign anything without looking it over…
Your 30 year legal opinion is ridiculous. How many lawyers do you know who just signed whatever their felonious husband put in front of them?
What? Speak up!
That’s what I thought.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I felt so sorry for Phaedra last season because of how Apollo was treating her. He was so disrespectful to her in Mexico, at his child’s errr Dylan’s dedication and just mean in general. She had my admiration for going to school and having so many jobsssss. AND THEN I READ TAMARA TATTLES BLOG. lol Angela Stanton…errything…I got set straight real fast and any pity I felt went out the window. I think Apollo should rat her out if she was involved in any way but he won’t because of her babies.
Kandi is so trashy making statements about ex president dick getting sucked and asking dumb porsha was anybody sucking her new breasts. Can you imagine how she talks in front of her minor daughter. Low class and no morals at all
For Kandi, that’s just sex toy business jargon.
I tried to watch but I just couldn’t do it. Thanks for the recaps. Love reading them.
Bleh… This was my least favorite episode of the show, so far. Even though they broke records with this showing, I’m still annoyed with it. I was even starting to hate Kenya at times, and she’s my favorite one on the show, SO FAR. I’m still not understanding the need to carry Porsha on these trips (Which will be shown at a later viewing), but I am just over her and her nonsense. I understand the show must pick up after the fight, but they still could’ve introduced Claudia at some point during the showing. It just… Ugh! I need for Team Pretty (Cynthia, Kenya, and Claudia) to get together and breathe some fresh new air into this nonsense. Because right now it’s getting old.
Phaedra… I just need someone to arrest Phaedra right now. She’s really playing the “I dunno” cards, and it’s annoying the BeJesus outta me! The man stole millions and you’re really gonna sit here and act innocent to the bullshit? Millions! MILLIONS. If she didn’t “know”, then where is all those millions that he stole?! We know what’s going on, but the way this show is trying to spin it… ANNOYING!!!
PS
Tamara. They never show the new cast member’s intros until they are introduced to us in the show. They did the same with Kenya, Porsha, Cynthia, and Phaedra when they joined the show too. If anything, I’m shocked they DIDN’T show Porsha’s intro, since they showed Kim’s intro until they had that confrontation outside of the restaurant, when Troy started hitting the cameramen’s equipment. Which leads me to believe that Porsha must’ve really “burned her bridges” with the network, if they are showing her absence this early in the show.