Before we get going on tonight’s recap, I need to take a quick minute to acknowledge the utter hideousness of this set. It looks like something off Dynasty circa 1984. This is a NYC set? Also I hate all of the dresses. Every last one of them. Why are they allowing white? White on TV used to be a big no no. Maybe now that we have flat screens and high definition it isn’t an issue? I like TereSSa’s dress in theory but the boobs are a problem. Nicole’s is probably the best of the bunch but that sort of like winning the Special Olympics in this case. No offense to TeeCee’s kid’s accomplishments. It’s just a simile. I had more to say but it is already starting, so I better quit while I am behind.
We go straight in to Teresa and how she has changed as a person over the six season she has been on. Teresa looks so much younger in 2008. Teresa says she has definitely changed for the better. She doesn’t worry about petty things anymore and focuses on what is important. Cut to tight shot of Melissa trying to keep a respectable, face and not roll her eyes. You can see the effort. Andy asks if her values have changed. She says, “Everything, yes.” Cut to TereSSa turning her head and letting out a deep sigh.
Tre says she came on the show just to have fun and look where she is now. Andy asks if she blames the show. She says not the show but a lot of people who came on the show came on just to hurt them. Some were housewives and others just came to parties, but the all started a lot of trouble. I guess those trouble makers cause her to commit 41 counts of fraud. They sound like real assholes. They show a clip of Danielle season two talking about the house she lived in before they moved into the mansion. Danielle accused them then of being in foreclosure. Next it’s season 3 with Kim G. Then season 4 where Teresa tell Jac that if she was going to jail, she is sure she would know about it. Teresa laughing in a talking head about going to jail. Tre says to the others to be careful because people come on the show to try to hurt them. 
Montage of the family. Everyone laughs at Milania’s bratty behavior. Teresa says in the clip she has no money put away for the girls college. I guess she spent it all on tutus and music videos and birthday parties. Teresa talks about her businesses suffering. They show the scens with Joe’s Dad and end with the whole huge family photo. Joe looks down. Tre tears up. Andy tells Joe he is sorry for his loss. Tre turns around and asks Joe if he okay and gets him a tissue. She seems genuinely concerned and mothering toward him. I think these two are probably closer than they’ve ever been. She’s much nicer than she was to him on WWHL a couple days before. Tre and Joe and Melissa talk about memories of Joe’s dad. Joe Gorga seems beside himself and unable to talk. Teresa says that Milania acts up for the camera. More Giudice family montage.
Andy asks why she listed the value of her businesses as zero on her presentencing documents. Teresa says that Fabelleni is not showing a profit yet. The dessert line is in the red too.
A viewer asks Joe Gorga if he blames Joe Giudice for what is happening to his sister. Joe pauses a long time, takes a deep breath and looks physically pained. He says, “I dunno, do I blame him? It happened. I’m not blaming anybody. It happened. I’m just going to be here for them and that’s it. That’s what family does, right?” Andy ask Juicy if he blames himself. He says he has to blame himself, who else is he going to blame? They play a montage of them going to court. They are watching it as it plays. It ends with Rosie praying for the family. It was very touching.
Andy says that part of Tre’s plea deal was that she would accept prison time, so was it surprising that you were given 15 months? Tre says she didn’t understand the plea deal. Andy says, “Wow, have you spoken to your lawyers about that?” Because Tre answered DOZENS of questions from the judge to assure that she knew the details of the plea deal including agreeing to serve a prison sentence between 21- 27 months. Andy asks Juicy if he thinks he will be deported. He says he will deal with that issue when it comes. As he is speaking Tre pipes up and says, “He can’t answer that now. Andy asks Tre to speak on what she said that Joe Gorga could do to support her. She said to see their parents every week. She says she talks to her parents every day. Joe says he will do that. A viewer asks if Joe supports his parents as much as Tre. Joe says that Tre spends more time with them, but he sees them a lot. Tre says she goes to all of their doctor’s appointments with them and Joe has to work a lot.
Andy works his way around the room talking about how the housewives supported Tre. Amber says she tried to keep it short and sweet and focused on Teresa. Teresa turned to Amber and sincerely said “that was nice.” Amber is pretty much the only housewife other than Dina not getting a frigid shoulder. On to TereSSA. Andy points out she had issues with Tre this season. Teressa says it is a tragedy what Tre is going through and her heart breaks for her, but she can’t be a hypocrite and ignore what Tre did to her mother. She brought Victoria onto the show to spread lies. TereSSa says that Victoria’s publicist is threatening her publicist and saying it was all Tre and Amber. Tre and Amber both deny having anything to do with it. They play the talking head where TereSSa says “Karma’s a bitch” and makes the wrist motions while saying “Clink Clink.” Andy asks if she regrets saying that. TereSSa says something about belieiving in God while Tre asks what “Clink, Clink” means and Andy has to explain it to her. Really, Tre? You will find out soon enough I suppose. TereSSa says she is the only one being honest and not pretending like they all get along. Dina says she doesn’t agree with everything TereSSa but she gives her props for being honest because there is certainly a lack of that… she seems to be referring to Melissa. Clearly, Tre and Dina are pissed at Melissa for some reason. I’m starting to think that the subtext of Tre’s constant refrain of “I don’t know why this is happening to me!” is actually, “and not Melissa and Joe.” I think they are all guilty and Tre is pissed that she is doing time and Melissa is driving around in stolen Bentleys.
Andy keeps going back to the presentencing forms. Tre and Joe both say they never went over the presentencing financial disclosures with anyone. They both say the probation officer comes to your house. They were not hiding anything the PO came and walked through the whole house and saw everything they had. Their accountant called them on the phone and asked questions. They just signed everything they were told to sign and relied on him to fill everything out correctly. Nicole says the attorney should have gone over all of that with her. Tre says she has never been in this situation and had no idea what she was doing.
Andy said there was a lot viewer push back about her being on the show. He says people say she is a criminal and they have no sympathy for her. She says she doesn’t need sympathy. Andy talks about her crying while reading her statement in court. The judge said that Joe was the captain will have to live with the sentence I gave him. The first mate needs a bit of a sentence too. She said to Tre that quite frankly she displayed genuine remorse and at the end of the day she finally got it, and finally woke up. Andy asks if she agrees and that she gets it now. Tre says of course she does. It’s hard to talk about.
The Joe’s leave and we go back to the girls. We pay a bit of attention to the twins and I take a moment to grab another bottle of electrolyte water. Nicole still lives at home and says she and Bobby are in a really good place. Amber has her confused face on. Nicole thinks Bobby will give her a ring within a year. Andy brings up the fact that Bobby is from a wealthy family. He tries to make this a sinister thing. Andy tries to get Amber to say that Nicole is a gold digger. I’ve had a snack and refreshed my grapefruit water and we are still talking about the twins. Is Bobby gay? Nah. That’s ridiculous.
We come back and all of the men are out there now. Andy says to Jim, “Thanks for taking a break from Twitter.” Because douche is on there from sun up until sun down every day. How long til his blood money runs out at this rate? Andy asks Jim if he has an anger management problem, because, DUH. Amber who has been laughing nervously ever since he was seated on a bar chair behind her interrupts to say, “No he has an asshole problem.” Everyone seems to agree until she clarifies that Jim can’t deal with OTHER PEOPLE being an asshole. Way to get out of that beating, Amber. Jim spouts his usual delusional nonsense that is not recapping. Andy says he found out that Jim is not actually a lawyer. Really, you don’t say. Jim admits that “he doesn’t practice law.” Jim says he is an expert that gets paid a lot of money to advise lawyers. I’m laughing my ass off. Excuse me. It’s hard to type this. Jim says he recently (finally) passed the bar and has submitted to the character committee. He graduated in 2001 and “chose to take the bar in 2013” and probably in 2001-2012… he says now he has to dance with the ethics committee and that should take about a year and is perfectly normal. No, no it is not. He says that he waited to take the bar because he makes so very much money (as a whistle blower). Everyone from the twins to Andy point out that the opportune time to take the bar is right at the end of law school when your legal degree is still relevant to current law. Well, they didn’t give the reason, but that is it. Amber chimes in to say he was making so much money with the mortgage company he didn’t want to give that up. Except that is not true either, he was working for a pharmaceutical company (whistleblower) before he got booted from that industry into the mortgage business, which he also got booted from in the state of Washington and appears to still be having issues in New Jersey thus he has the time to sit on Twitter ALL DAY LONG threatening to sue people for pointing out all of his legal issues and generally douchebaggery.
Jim should marry Nene Leakes, they both like to pretend they are making millions of dollars. Jim just asked Rino if he made $8.5 million dollars this year. Rino, who may well have made $8.5 million with three very successful restaurants in the NYC area says he doesn’t discuss anything with finances. Melissa says to Tre tell him not to talk about his money on the show. LOL. Tre says it’s none of his business. I can’t wait for the ethics committee to be sent a copy of this show. This is fantastic.
Next Jim wants to talk about “little Bobby” who also likely ran circles around Jim’s income this year. He says that Bobby doesn’t make that kind of money unless his dad gives it to him. Bobby says that is funny because on Twitter you said I was worth $500 million, which is it. Jim says that is his daddy. Amber chimes in to agree. Bobby says,”Who refers to an adult parent as “daddy”?” A little punk like Jim Marchese, that’s who, Bobby. Jim is green with envy that Bobby comes from a wealthy family.
Andy asks Jim if he understands why there is…pauses to select his words…”great disdain for you?” Jim basically says the people born into money don’t like him because he came from nothing. Frankly, he is still nothing. Getting money from a successful family beats the holy hell out of getting it from duping cancer patients and then blowing the whistle on the scheme when you get fired. Allegedly. According to court documents. Shitweasel. Jim seems to think they are talking about Twitter and all of the billions of people on Twitter who despised him there. He says they are all influence by Bobby. Wow. Bobby is rich AND almighty powerful on Twitter. That’s hot.
Andy gives up and moves on. Let’s talk about Amber calling Nicole a home wrecker on the show. Rehash, rehash. Amber gets raked over the coals over all the home wrecker comments. Jim whips out a stack of papers. Everyone is mocking Jim amongst themselves. Dina tells Andy she thought there was a no props allowed rule. Andy smiles and says, “That’s not a prop, it is evidence.” We have officially entered the Twilight Zone. Amber’s mike is back on so she can drone on about the stupid assertion that Jim keeps making on Twitter about being in charge of Bobby’s contract with Bravo. Bobby points out the stupidity of what Amber is saying. Jim waves around his sheath of papers. Now he is holding up some printed out pictures saying “Famewhore!” Amber looks around as if to answer, but he is not talking to her. He is talking about Bobby. He has pictures of Bobby at Tre’s book signing, and Kathy’s book signing and with Jac. Because that is evidence of a vast famewhore conspiracy. I’m sure most of Jersey went to get those books. It’s not like he is pretending to be an expert legal consultant to the AUSA or making a stage one cancer story the focus of his whole storyline or anything.
Amber and the twins jaw with each other like felons in the yard and Andy literally tells them to shut up. Jim tells Andy the twins don’t like “shut up, it’s shush up.” My gawd with this lunatic. Amber goes on with her conspiracy theory about Bobby setting up the girls to ambush Amber. What’s that quote about water rising to its own level? Amber and Jim are made for each other. I can’t believe they were allowed to breed. Andy tries to explain to Jim that he is a misogynist. Jim goes on a misogynist rant to deny it. Joe Gorga says he would never speak to a woman like that. Amber and Jim bring up that Jim called Teresa garbage and a scumbag. Joe Gorga is about to lose it on Jim. Juicy is laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing is. And so am I.
Jim Marchese is the biggest douchebag, loser , scum bucket ever to be on Bravo. That says a lot. Next week, more with the men and the whale douche.
I believe that’s “water seeks it’s own level.”
Waiting for Jim the weasel to come and start commenting…
I really don’t think I can do another another Amber/ Jim and the twins season. They are not a car crash I find enjoyable to watch. I enjoy commenting here and reading snarky posts about them but not watch it.
I wouldn’t mind having the twins if we didn’t have the cancer.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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But then we still are stuck with Bobby. He only ever looks good because he’s in the same show as Jim. I do like Rino. He is probably the most mature one sitting on a couch in this reunion, including Andy.
I like Bobby and Rino. I think they would be fine in a second season without the douche llama. Sadly, I’m not sure they will get a second shot. Bravo isn’t very good about letting people acclimate. They didn’t get enough stuff for a full season from these fucknuts… we shall see.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’ll take the twins, and away with Ambah, and her a-hole, Jim, and we can keep the twins, because they seem to be well-meaning and they can be very entertaining. Besides, this way we may learn if Bawbi pops the question and puts a ring on it.
I’m thinking Bobby joined Bravo so he could become besties with benefits with Eddie Judge. I am almost positive he was texting Eddie when he hid in the bathroom that time.
Teresa looked bad. The Guidices and Gorgas acted like they were all sharing the Xanax or Ativan.
I hate admitting this because Jim makes my skin crawl…but he had a point about Gorga. He spoke to Teresa terribly.
Thanks for the recap TT. Adore you!
Yep, the truth gave Gorga a good ole bitchslap!
He did. And Joe’s attempt to defend it by pointing out Teresa is his sister just really dug his hole further.
Gorga isn’t the brightest bulb in the toolbox. 😀
Agree, Gorga is slow. He has copied Joe, who has copied with the real estate biz and then the show as a way to get money. Don’t think he knows how to create his own success.
Well, see, I saw the Joe Gorga and Tre arguments as something that only their spouses should object to. Ya know, it’s family sh*t. It was hurtful, but it’s between the siblings; they have a history. JMO
I agree. When I was going through my adolescence with my strict southern Baptist mother, my mom was much older and from another generation than the mothers of my peers. I would bitch about her all the time. My mom is such a bitch…..blah blah blah… Then one day a friend said to another friend in front of me something like “Well Tamara’s mom is a bitch so she won’t be able to go to that…” And I thought I might kill the girl. I can call my mom a bitch, and you can too, if you have a death wish…
I agree with you, @Mari Anne Souza, and oddly enough I understood Joe Gorga’s point, too (and I admit that I’m somewhat concerned about that), but we have all heard someone say, “He’s a PITA, but he’s MY PITA!”, and I believe that is what Joe Gorga intended to communicate about his sister, the Gorga family felon, about whom I can only imagine, that the senior Gorga’s are so proud, because she managed to see them everyday, AND yet still comit offenses that led to a 41 count indictment… so much her attempt to imply that she’s the better child who will “go away” for a year, because she’s that good.
I agree about his comment to Gorga and also you have to admit he made a point of Bobby going to all those cheesy book signings. I do think he wanted to be on the show.
Totally agree that shit you talk to and about your family is different than anyone else saying anything about them. Even spouses. I can call my mom a crazy bat all I want but even if my husband says it I feel myself getting defensive, even if he is just agreeing with me. It’s a fine line. And totally different than some other fucktard talking to/about someone. BUT the big difference I think is that Joe did it on TV. That makes it not between siblings. Walking onto the show you only got on because of your sister’s presence on it and calling her garbage in the first episode in front of the whole country sort of excludes you from a conversation about speaking disrespectfully to women. Just my two cents.
JM makes my skin crawl. I wanted Andy to grill him about the contracts he allegedly has with other cast members. Teressa’s breasts look HUGE! Seems Amber is the one who had a nose job … allegedly. Bobby’s upper teeth look fake; if they are real, he ought to go to a good prosthodontist and get fake ones 😀
TereSSa’s white Grecian style dress was a no-no. It seemed my attention was riveted to these BIG white balloons all night. Not boobs, but balloons. It wasn’t a good look 🙁
I thought it was kinda weird how the different couches kinda mirrored each others dresses
You had Teresa in all gold and opposite couch had Nicole in all gold.
Dina in black and gold with Amber opposite in black and gold.
Then Teressa in all white mirrored by Melissa in all white.
Yeah, and they stayed up and at attention.
My thoughts exactly!
My God there must be an official psychiatric term for Jim. He is seriously wretched. And the fact that Amber, a Columbia grad, has bonded with this creep speaks volumes about her as well. I know love is blind, but with Amber it’s also mental illness. We must pray for their kids because they have not one but two parents who are certifiable.
Did Amber go to the same Columbia as Kelli Bensimon?
Clearly. That would explain a lot. :)
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Yes, but it wasn’t Columbia. More like Kolumbia Korrespondence Kollege. It turns out 50 graduates a year and they all work the same stroll.
I think she did, except it was Columpia, a school in the Phillipines.
Schizophrenia with grandiose delusions? Bipolar heavy on the Mania? The guy certainly confabulates. He could just be a real jerk/shitweasle/ whale douche. I think he is a pimple on the buttocks of humanity. Certainly he thinks he is omnipotent.
It’s definitely all of the above. Maybe that is why he is intolerable to real humans. He must have multiple psychiatric, behavioral and personality disorders.
Yes, love is blind, but marriage is supposed to be the eye-opener. However, I can’t imagine Amber dumping Jim, until the kids are grown up. Seems like he’d be a nasty bastard to tangle with in court. Why does he have custody of his eldest son? Anybody know?
He doesn’t. It’s joint. He just comes over to film.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh, thank you, Tamara.
Oh God imagine Amber trying to divorce him.
I can’t even stand to see that idiot, let alone listen to him spit out that nonsense. I took the bar exam 3 years after I graduated because I was in a car accident a week after the ceremony. I was in rehab for 18 months. The bar examiner kept saying he NEVER sees people who take the bar three years after they get their degree because it was so much harder to pass. So to say he is taking the bar 10 years later “just because” is ridiculous. Another lie.
Oh but for Jim Im sure it was easy! It may be tough for others to wait so long but not Jim! I can see the loser taking the reality of it and trying to turn it to make himself look superior.
You are so right, Joe and Melissa did the same fraud game as Juicy and Tre. You could see the guilt in Joes expressions. I believe if Joe could trade places with his sister and do her time, he would. Unlike Phaeda, imo Tre isnt going to divorce Juicy and for that i say kudos
Hard to believe Joe or Tre wouldn’t have ratted them out, even if they had to use a 3ed party to do it.
Do you mean as in turning State’s evidence? Yikes, that would’ve probably killed Tre and Joe’s dad. But stranger things have happened.:-/
I wonder though, could it be that the Giudice’ s took it further with the bankruptcy? It seems to me that is where it all unfolded. Have the Gorga’ s filed? I wonder if Joe and Teresa would have come to this without the bankruptcy. I’m sure Joe and Melissa have been holding their breath on their own situation. Is dishonesty a typical way of life in this part of the country? Very odd.
I didn’t think of that. Good point.
I agree that the lies on the bankruptcy filing brought down the Giudice House of Cards and would not be surprised if the Gorgas had some less than perfect loan applications out there. If they try to declare bankruptcy I would expect creditors to go over their original applications with a fine-toothed comb looking for irregularities to see if it runs in the family…
My feeling is the fraud would have eventually surfaced because of the lawsuit Joe’s former business partner brought against him exposed one method the Guidices used to gain money. Not only did Joe forge the signature of his partner on the bank forms but he allegedly forged a signature and seal of a notary. These actions opened a can of worms.
Yes, and I think that the Tre huggers really don’t understand the depth and breadth of Tre’s participation in the fraud. She’s not an airhead wife who wasn’t paying attention to the finances. She was an active participant and has charges that are specific only to her where she hid rent money in the Fabellini accounts, signed forged W-2s for a variety of jobs she never had and blatantly lied under oath to the bankruptcy court. Not Joe. Teresa.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Wow — Someone’s been busy typing up a storm.
WHAT is wrong with these people? Teresa’s sitting there all night like she “caught the cancer” or something. Too many people struggle to do it the right way — why should ANYONE take sympathy for those you do it the WRONG way – lying cheating/scamming (FOR 13 YEARS).
ETA: Interesting theory re Melissa & Joe (they just haven’t gotten caught – yet??). She sure does look like the cat that ate the canary (part 1 & tonight). I got the impression she’s just walking on eggshells in order to keep to peace but your perspective is so MUCH more interesting!
Teresa dots every I and crosses every t-isn’t her defense that she just signed what was in front of her? I guess it will never sink in.
Maybe she was literally referring to her own signature which has one t and two I s
Ba, dum, bum! (cymbal crash)
Jim is a bitch. What an unlikeable pos. No doubt he verbally abuses Amber.
I have a problem with Teresa being sentenced to do more time than Casey Anthony. That’s fucked up. Maybe Teresa will turn up pregnant and get early release. Lol and gives birth to a boy.
Rino seems nice I just wish Andy had asked him what the hell happened between him and Victoria Gotti.
What caught my attention, is how quite Tre is until Joe speaks. She acts terrified he’ll spill a secret. I believe she also talked over bro-joe. For someone unable to understand her plea deal, she becomes Joe’s attorney whenever he opens his mouth. Just like she did at the sit down, hmm.
If I was Tre I’d watch my husband and what he says like a hawk. Everyone is keeping a close eye on them. It is kind of funny to see her reaction to when he begins to speak. It’s like she is holding her breath and praying he doesn’t say too much.
The dumb act is such a sham — the mask slips away the minute either Joe’s start talking. Also, Teresa’s so heavily sedated her truth-o-meter (rapid eye-blinking before lying) is being suppressed. She didn’t know jail time was a possibility?? They signed – but never looked at – the asset list provided to the judge? B.S.
Spot on!! Medicated. Absolutely. And the rapid eye blinking is exactly what she does. That or the high pitched squeal.
I actually liked the more neutral muted dress colour palette for this reunion. Some of the dresses were a bit…off but overall it was better than the short cocktail dresses you see on NY and some of horrendous gowns we have seen on Atlanta. I’m probably being too forgiving, at least nothing was ugly enough to be burnt into my memory.
What a disappointment this show has become (I’m an “OG Watcher” of ALL HW shows). Thanks for the recap, TT, quite informative. I’m also disappointed in Andy since he seems to allow Teresa to dictate the content of what will be discussed AND who is allowed to do the discussing.
You can’t sign up for a Reality Show, commit criminal offenses, then play VICTIM when you’re asked about said offenses. You KNEW what you signed up for…after all, you’ve been making your living this way for awhile now.
I challenged myself to describe these ding-dongs with one word: Teresa: LiarFace, Juicy Joe: Grifter, Melissa: Gloater, Joe: Mentally-Deficient, Amber: Yawn, Jim: Asswipe (I couldn’t think up a word bad enough to describe this human), TereSSa: Equitable, Reno: Tolerable (and perhaps most sane), Nicole: Annoying, Bobby: Opportunist, Dina: Passive Aggressive Queen of her Castle. Yep, I failed my one-word challenge a time or two.
All the HW’s are guilty of not answering questions based on issues they consider ‘private’. Ramona and her cheating husband is one example. When it comes to legal issues they have to be careful what they say. They don’t want to accidentally invalidate their plea bargains or open themselves up to further liability. Also Andy can’t go too hard on Tre, she is still a fan favorite.
True. Good points. But still annoying. Now that you mention it, I remember how mad I got about Ramona’s zipped lips (for ONCE in her life!!).
Me too! Especially as her daughter was over 18 and Ramona wasn’t in the wrong this time. I did give her credit for not trashing her husband on television though. Secretly I wish she gave us all the gossip. Especially as it explained why she was so weird last season (leaving halfway during a trip for no apparent reason).
Andy is allowing these reunions to be turned into memory seminar at senior citizen community center snooze-fest. I fell asleep so many times.
With all the drama surrounding these HW franchises we should be sitting on the edge of our seats eating popcorn watching these reunions. How and why can we NOT discuss what is being AIRED ON the show and on NATIONAL news,blogs and twitter? Does Andy have any balls in those Tom Ford pants?
”Does Andy have any balls in those Tom Ford pants?”
/giggles /Tosses you Five Tamara Tattles Tokens
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m sorry but I wouldn’t believe Bobby if his tounge came notorized. I think he is definitely an opportunist. It would make sense to me that if he was really friends with Amber and Jim there were times when he shared things with them. I think that he did talk bad about the twins and their family. It’s just unfortunate that no one believes this is possible because it’s Jim and Amber giving up the tapes on him and nobody likes them. I’m not a big fan of them either but I believe them. When Jim pulled out those pictures of him posing with Jac, Tre, & Melissa I almost fell on the floor….lol!!!!
I mean to type “tongue”….oops!
On Twitter, Jim or a fan added another, Bobby & Ramona! lol
I 100% agree with you! Bobby is a fame who’re. His family’s wealth can not buy him that. I really don’t mind Amber minus the constant “the cancer” but she needs to put Jim in the basement with no access to social media and bolt the door when filming.
If it had been Nicole that took the pictures with the RHONJ cast would that have been acceptable? Just curious.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think I’d definitely be suspicious…
Not sure why anyone would find this news of Bobby seeking out the wives so shocking. Aren’t they ALL seeking fame on this show? Didn’t they ALL look for the opportunity to appear on tv?
THANK YOU! I thought the whole pictures thing was a hilarious exercise in famewhore hypocrisy.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Your right…They are all famewhores. The hilarity of it all is when the try to deny it when it’s so obvious.
I took the picture spread to mean that Bobby was only staying with Nicole so he could be on the show. Didn’t Jim say something about Bobby wanted to dump her, but waited to see if she got her contract signed? Anyone know how long they dated before filming started?
Yeah, it was crystal clear Teresa is angry with Joey and Melissa for some reason. There is no way she was being sweet as pie to them since their fake reconciliation and then suddenly they became nasty to her. I do think it has to do with the possibility Teresa and Joe are taking heat and Teresa is resentful Joey and Melissa aren t having to. Teresa does carry this extremely immature, narccistic, and jealous characteristic about her and can’t conceptualize the live and let live way of life. She’s gone over four decades with being a manipulative liar so it’s going to take her a long time to learn differently.
I agree with you. I think Teresa is so pissed that the Gorgas are up to the same shenanigans but didn’t get caught. Maybe, yet?
Well, the Gorgas better not file for bankruptcy to trigger a closer look into their finances (if, in fact, they did do the same things as the Giudices). If they can’t pay their bills they’ll just have to let their properties go back to the bank and start over. That’s a better option than jail. Must be horrible having people speculate about if you have used the same means to an end to finance your lavish lifestyle. Yeah, Melissa looks somewhat haunted in her expressions and must be having some sleepless nights.
Jim Marches=Verbal Diarrhea
Jimbo is definitely mental. He is an abusive,delusional POS. I feel sorry for Amber because he has her trained. When Jim said I treat every woman as an equal I thought of Andy Kaufman (the comic in taxi) when he challenged a female wrestler to a fight an d got majorally hurt. I see that happening to Jim, he’s going to mouth off at a female and she’s going to know self defense and kapow. I hope Jim and Amber go away for good… BTW Amber my brother suffered with a tumor in his spinal canal that mestasized to every organ.. He slept sitting up in a chair for twenty years…. That’s suffering …that’s fighting
Jim wears his raging insecurity like Steve Martin’s King Tut costume. I have never witnessed a man that overcompensates as much as Jim does for his insecurities and mental inferiorities. As much of an asshole he is, think how much, subconsciously, he despises himself.
I blocked him on Twitter. So he creates eggs to talk about how smart he is and call me names. It’s actually sort of scary…
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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What is his beef with you? Because you state what everyone else is thinking? He needs to get a real life!
After seeing Jim on the reunion show, I know he has absolutely no hemorrhoids, because he is a perfect asshole.
@tt please! Scared for what ? He’s a hobbit, if he comes to your door pepper spray him and then stun him and then let banjo finish him off . You probably could take him without any weapons . He looks as if he’s 5’1 tops.
I’m not even sure they sell “pepper spray” in Georgia. I live near the GLOCK factory.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/glock-smyrna
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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“Teresa looks so much younger in 2008”
OMG I was JUST thinking that last night! New Jersey has always been my least favorite HWs so I never really watched the early seasons. I was watching an episode from season 3 and it really just blew my mind paralleled to today – and dare I say Teresa actually looked pretty good.
So Teresa and Jacqueline are together writing a letter for Joe and she says, verbatim “heres the thing about my brother and Melissa – they’re stupid….if there were more people out there like me, the world would be a better place”
I DIED!
But Teresa has been playing “the new, improved me” shit since before any of this ever happened.
In that same episode Teresa says “the old me would have picked up the phone and said BITCH” (to Melissa) and then goes on to explain her new, revolutionary tactic is to do it underhandedly, “tit for tat” like throwing away Melissa’s cookies. Caroline looked genuinely appalled that she literally said that.
I also never noticed how much Melissa really has changed. She was dancing, posing, being loud, just visually drunk off the attention she was getting. It’s kind of sad but I think the show really broke her spirit – it seems like the typical case of airhead girl wants fame and attention, “to be a star” and then has to live with the reality that it generally destroys lives.
New and improved who? Does Tre really believe what she says? Unfortunately, yes. I don’t agree with Judge Salas. Joe gets it a hell of a lot more than Tre.
If Amber had a nose job…..she needs another. That nose is so big! And did anyone hear Dina laugh and say “Joe is so fucked up” (meaning he was buzzed) cause he was laughing at something going on? As for Jim….what an idiot. I really wish someone would shut his stupid face. He must make enemies on a daily basis.
I agree about Amber’s nose.
But Jim says the only people that don’t like him are people that Bobby pays to say negative things. I submitted my bill to Bobby last night on Twitter. True story. I didn’t realize he was supposed to be paying me, and apparently he can afford it. Imma be RICH, BITCH.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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LMAO. You’re funny TT.
About the twins and the table flipping debate (I can’t believe no one has mentioned it) . . . Amber would flip the table. Teresssa would just quietly put a contract out on you! 🙂
Joe Gorga is so broken up about this because he brought Monica Chacon on the show and allegedly he and Melissa fed her info on Teresa and Joe (this could just be scuttlebutt).
Oh, and Jimbo, $8.5M??? Your t’s better be crossed and your i’s dotted…. or else the Tax Man cometh!
I suspect all those women, at one time or another, have sold out Teresa. Some for revenge and some for forgiveness from the feds. Most of Teresa’s problems with the women began in season 2. Carolyn despised Teresa because of Teresa’s loyalty to Dina. There was the whole Jacqueline/Danielle/Kim G. circus. Eventually the family members were brought on to light her fuse.
Theresa doesn’t need to be too concerned about what she says now since most of the damage is done. She should have been concerned years ago. Teresa didn’t see it coming until the damage was done and it was way too late because a lot of information was caught on film.
The time to realize you have been set up by your best friend is not when your friend and her SIL want to corner you and ask personal and financial questions that should not be discussed on tape. Teresa should never have confided in Jacqueline who befriended Danielle and Kim G., for one.
I cannot help but feel each woman, during their angrier times with Teresa, sold her out. Think back to all the squabbles and things said.
My gut tells me Bravo played a starring role. Who knows why. Let this be a lesson to all people on a reality series to keep their mouth shut when it comes to business that should be kept behind closed doors.
It is my opinion that the RHONJ may have been scripted but Bravo may have written a script to aid an indictment.
@d.dunning . You’re kidding . Right?
No, I am absolutely serious.
I have never been a Teresa fan and find her more repulsive now but my intuition that each woman played a part in her demise and some saw rewards or forgiveness is strong.
Joe and Teresa did the crime but at every turn cast members would goad her into conversation or start a problem that somehow linked back to the fraud. I think a lot of the goading was at Bravos request.
Kim G. was friends with Jacqueline and friends with Cahcon. That was a dangerous trio. Kim G. was not all too pleased with Teresa calling her out about the stripper pole butt crack incident or calling her Kim Grannytell on national TV. It was because of Teresa that Kim G. was asked to leave a Christmas party fund raiser. Kim G. is the SIL to Kim D., another friend of Teresa.
Those women are vindictive.
Melissa fed a lot of dirt to Danielle who blabbed on TV and social media.
Even if someone is your best friend or a family member there are private matters that should remain secret and never be spoken. Loose lips sink ships.
Bravo could have easily edited a lot of interactions out, such as paying cash for the furniture. I felt like that was a red flag. To me it has always appeared that Andy does not like Teresa. What did he know and what was Bravo willing to capture on film?
Someone has drunk the kool aid
I have no idea what you mean about the kool aid. If you are referring to being a fan or follower of Teresa or Bravo, read my lips… your head is stuck up your brown hairy ass hole. I thought I made that plain to read. I can’t hardly stomach either.
The drift of my entry is that each and everone of the main women, and some of the “friends of the HWs” have been a snitch, rat, tattle tale, informant, 50 cent, narc or whatever you want to refer to her as. Bravo has been in on some of the deeds.
BTW, I am up there in age and out of the loop when it comes to sayings but that “kool aid” remark is past its prime and long ago worn out. It was around when I was much younger. Tells me you’re not too cool.
Why must you include tattle tale in there with all the other bad things? 🙂
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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This is the most remarkable pile of crap I have ever read. You do understand what got Teresa into trouble was filing BK and not declaring her assets such as book contracts, payments from magazines and correct Bravo salary? From her bankruptcy filing the court asked Joe about filing their income taxes and he said they had not be filed. From there it became very obvious they would not have been to qualify for any loan.
Jacqueline did not ask Teresa financial questions-she asked Teresa abou the comment Teresa’s BK attorney made to a magazine that jail was a possibility for Teresa. Remember the one Teresa laughed off. Clink, clink.
@d.dunning “… your head is stuck up your brown hairy ass hole” response to theREALHWONJ. Really? Nice, classy way to make a point. Kool-aid may be past its prime but good taste never is. But I’m a Southern girl and “can’t hardly” stomach bad manners.
I thought that Bravo’s inclusion of a scene with Danielle where she was ranting about knowing where Tre lived just prior to moving into “the mansion” was very telling. She was well aware of the huge change in financial appearances in Tre before and after the show. While the Giudice’s were committing fraud well before the RHONJ, I think the show jacked everything up to a whole new level. I don’t blame Bravo, but they do tend to attract media whores who are extremely invested other people’s opinion of them. All of which leads to disaster. Or um..”college.”
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Hey, Queen of DaNile de lesseps. I’m sure a fine Southern girl like yourself knows it is bad manners to correct or comment on someone else’s manners but I’m not going to point out that faux pas to you because this damn Yankee could give a flying rat’s ass what the fuck you think.
What part of “brown hairy asshole” resonated with you and got your dander up? I think it is the hairy part.
BTW, you use the word “pissed” but correct me? Your idea of manners is all fucked up there, DaNile.
I don’t wish to offend you by telling you to pull your head out of your pigmented hirsute rectum as that would be redundant…and I am sure it is waaaaaay tooooooo tight even for your pinhead to fit.
Only someone with a severly puckered pigmented hairless (you must wax your asshole because a lady such as yourself would never, ever want a man/woman to see hair around her poop shoot, am I right?) rectum would make such an asinine comment.
Please accept the above apology
Hey, Yankee — I have to give you props for the “Queen of DaNile de lesseps” moniker. That was actually very witty. My laugh was almost worth the rest of your tirade. (Wow … you seem a little high strung. That rant was over the top, don’tchya think?) Your apology is accepted.
Awwwwww. I love a good hugging it out between commenters.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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My bf and heart, my 19 1/2 yr old cat Sammy died in my arms Wednesday. I tried to watch this to distract me and I just sat there thinking ppl like JM live on and my angel dies??? I know I’m emotional but I hate some of these ppl. I hope they get what they deserve.
Oh, KKH – I feel for you, that’s so sad. I’m sorry. 🙁
Losing your pet is like losing your best friend, lover, and child all at the same time. I grieve with you.
I agree, the loss of a pet hurts a lot, but to compare it to a loss of a child is insane. I love my pets a lot more than some humans I know. I would never compare my love for my children and husband to my pets.
Kathy Kelley, my heart goes out to you. Losing a beloved cat is one of the most heartbreaking things to cope with. My darling Pippa, a Maine Coon, died two years ago and I still miss her every single day. She was 16 years old. I won’t offer any words of comfort because sometimes there just aren’t any with enough depth. I’ll just say from my heart to yours, I understand your grief.
I haven’t watched yet and read the recap anyway (couldn’t help myself) so I won’t comment on much – can’t wait to see Jim act insane. I wonder if the twins would be palatable without Jim/Amber. I am very curious who will get contracts next year. I really think Andy hates Jim. Some crazies he loves (Nene, Sonja) others he tolerates for ratings (Tamara – never got the impression he was too fond of her, but she stirs the pot) but he seems to outright not like Jim and Amber. And of course the audience hates them. I really am not a fan of the twins. I like Rino, but he comes with them. Next season, obviously Teresa is going to be in jail so she’s out. Jacqueline keeps saying on Twitter that she would come back full time. Dina has said multiple times she is done. Especially if Jac comes back with all of their public Twitter feuding now. Could it be ALL new people? That would be crazy. But all that’s left with no Teresa or Dina is Melissa (who doesn’t have a storyline without Teresa, never has) the twins and the Marcheses. They can’t carry a show between the four of them. Obviously, which is why with Teresa and Dina attempting to avoid drama, the producers added summertime footage of Jac and Kathy eating salads, as TT pointed out. Very curious what the future of this show is going to be.
But anyway, I hated the dresses too, but they matched up quite well with this season’s promo pictures, which also looked like donated prom dresses.
My guess would be joe and the four dawters.
I think you’re right that they will be featured for ratings and lord knows they need the money, but he’s not going to be like a full blown cast member, right?? I mean, can you imagine Juicy Joe’s intro?
Wait, I totally know what his tagline would be. “Haters are gonna hate… but, eh, you know? What are ya gonna do?”
I really can’t see that happening. I don’t think Joe is going to be caring for the girls the year Tre is in jail. He’ll be finding them a place to live, then have Gia and his mother looking after the girls. Joe will be out hanging with his girl friend and friends.
Oops! Did I say girl friend? Hehehe 😉
Lmbo MK at the tagline. Why do I hear a big burp at the end of it? : )
I love how Jim raises hell. If it weren’t for him, the whole season would have been way more dull then it already was. The twins look, sound, and act like retired strippers. They have no business being on a RH show, especially when one is LIVING AT HOME with her elderly parents. I hope this is a lesson for Bravo in how they handle reality casts where someone is going to prison. The viewers deserve better then then mess of this season.
If any of the producers read this blog, I plead with them to increase the diversity of the ethnic make up of the show. NJ is the most densely populated state. It’s ethnic make-up includes every nationality and ethnicity one could think of. Please think outside the Italian-American box and perform finance checks on those who audition. It would be really amazing to have cast members who don’t have shady financial pasts.
@thomas . Oh let the Italians have a franchise why spoil it with diversity . I enjoy watching ghetto, low class people from all walks of life . I enjoy the made up words, the grammar, the the total lack of self awareness that’s present in most ( so no one say that I said all) of the Bravo housewife franchises.
I like Jim too. I think he is entertaining as hell, and I laugh my ass off on some of his antics. He gives the twins HELL, which pleases me very much. Cant explain why, but I find the twins very annoying. Now Dina… she had the perfect opportunity to call Melissa out on why she came on the show, and when Melissa confronted her, Dina said “I don’t remember”. Odd…was she serious? Or was she trying to a smartass? Dina is a back peddler. If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen girl.
Joe did call his sister HORRIBLE names on national TV, which to me, makes it worse because she is his sister. When Jim mentioned this, Joe tried to shut him down. Cant recall if Andy asked for Joes opinion on Jim’s speaking terrible to women, but I do know that Joe said “He would never do that’, and that’s when Jim said you called your sister a scumbag. Jim wasn’t calling Teresa names, why would Joe get angry at Jim for telling the truth? These people are beyond ridiculous.
Gemini, are you an only child?
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I agree. If I were on this show with this cast, I would act like Jim. He can’t stand these mental midgets. He never had to deal with anyone like these people in law school, he has zero respect for them, and doesn’t care who knows it.
So, just to be clear, you think JIM is the smart one and the others are dumb? Jaqueline is smarter than Jim…
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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This installment was highly entertainment and delusional all at the same time. But most of all, TT, I love that you said “douchebaggery” – one of my favorite words ever. Looking forward to Installment #3. That is all.
I really like Amber. No guile. I lol when she called her huzzzband an asshole! She seems to be a happy, grateful equestrian!
She didn’t call him an asshole even though it seemed like it. He said he had an asshole problem. She meant he has a problem with assholes.
He must really have a lot of self-hatred.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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As my husband would say, Teresssa has TB…two ‘beauts”. Good grief, they are so distracting.
I actually like Jim! I haven’t watched this episode yet so I am wondering…once I watch, will I hate him like everybody else? He does seem SOMEWHAT intelligent and any time somebody insults him he is quick to think of a creative insult and throws it right back. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has been insulted his whole life so he has had a lifetime of practice firing quickly back at other.
I honestly think Bravo should ditch Amber and make Jim a housewife.
LOL. Based on your comment, I have no faith in your ability to… well frankly spark two brain cells together. If you think Jim is intelligent and his insults are creative, you’ll be on the short bus for the duration of your travels.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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“LBND”…uhm, hi, Jim, it’s nice to meet you! How did you ever find time to jump off Twitter, and post here? Anywho, your apron is showing, please tuck it back in.
Ha! I had a feeling somebody would call me Jim…. I don’t think Jim will ever reach TTs blog because he’s too busy on Twitter
“Shitweasel” is the best descriptor for Jim that I have read yet. I am in total agreement with you; Jim is absolutely a shitweasel.
I respect your Commenting Rules, TT, and I get that once you break Rule #4, it’s a slippery slope. That said, if you ever chose to use “Shitweasel” in replace of Jim’s name, I’d see no issue with it.
I have to say that this is the first time the twins voices didn’t make me want to scream. I agree that Tre brought Victoria Gotti on just to start shit. And in true Tre fashion, she denies it all. Just like her plea deal. She has not learned one.damn.thing. Cohen fawning over her makes me want to vomit. Now I know you love Melania TT, but what would you have done if that smart mouthed kid was in your class and spoke to you like that? As for Jim and Amber, hopefully after part 3 we will never see them again like Dina. And for those of you here there are really two New Jerseys. North and South. We in the southern part of the state are totally different from the guidettes of the north.
Oh Milania would behave in my class. And if she were my kid that situation would be straightened right out long about the time she wiped her ass with the refrigerated foods in the grocery store.
That said, it’s hysterical to watch. I’d take her down to the local theatre (had it not sadly gone bankrupt) and put her in acting classes and sent her to etiquette classes. But that’s just me.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh Lord do you remember in Season 1 when the older three tore up that kids clothing store? Throwing socks and panties all over the place lol!!
1. Teresa knew what she was doing, every time she signed papers and got money, moved/hid money and got more money, and lied, to get more money. She has raised her daughters the same way, “have fun”, and there are no consequences. I disagree with Judge Salas- Tre does NOT get it. The woman doesn’t believe her actions were criminal. Neither do a lot of her shallow followers. I can’t believe her behavior is up for a discussion of “innocence”. If she learned her lesson, why on God’s green acres would she sign a disclosure without knowing the facts? She supposedly did that the first time around in bankruptcy…
2. Bobby strikes me as a stand up kind of guy, family money or no. Jim is clearly jealous, and so is Amber, who turns on and off like a light switch. A call for a serious psychological evaluation is needed.
3. Surprisingly, the twins should be given another season, because they could be funny, have harmless personalities, and mean well, although they are somewhat insipid, intellectually short, and unworldly. However, there is some depth, even though they don’t know how to express it.
4. Finally, agree totally with the low budget/tacky set, and the dresses. Jersey and the OC are normally bad with dress/accessories/faux tans, but this looks like an intern, pretending to be a designer came up with “the look”. Dina’s hair? The big old boobs? (I have some…) Please.
Love your assessment of the twins. But I actually believe NJ would be better off with a reset. Bravo should do something unprecedented. Start a whole new cast as if it were the very beginning. What’s wrong with that?
What’s wrong is we are over the whole housewives crap. It’s time to put them all to bed. Surely there is something else they can come up with…
Meanwhile, y’all need to read my scripted show posts and prepare for the inevitable.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Tell them TT! People are too invested in the lives of ‘reality stars’. Lets talk about scripted shows!
You’re totally right. I don’t know what I was thinking. I’m so over the housewives. Hell yeah, scripted shows. I’ve noticed I’ve been watching more of them.
Isn’t Bravo coming out with a scripted show? Girlfriend’s guide? I guess the era of reality is coming to an end. Can I go on disability for PTSD when the inevitable happens?
Looking at the above picture, my eyes focused on Joe. He looks dejected. His mind is a million miles away. I wonder if we will see their story played out on “American Greed”.
I found it really interesting that in the Teresa and Joe family montage that there wasn’t a single scene with Melissa and Joe.