While I was out enjoying one of the most beautiful days of the fall so far, TMZ was writing article after article about Kingsley and Kim. First they wrote a story saying the dog has bitten four other people three of them in Kim’s home and one “on the set of RHOBH” lol at “the set.” Anyway, that was the trainer that Kingsley snapped at last season. TMZ interviewed the trainer who said the he and Bravo producers tried to convince Kim that Kingsley was too much for her to handle, but she would not listen. They also wrote about the Animal Control agency who has had contact with Kim and Kingsley on previous occasions who advised her to get her dog under control.
Despite what is apparently a slow day on TMZ (one dog bite, four stories in one day?), it does seem that the situation is more dire than originally thought. All the attention has forced Kim to make a public statement. Click through to read…
Kim says:
First off let me start by saying the safety and welfare of my family means the world to me. I love Alexia like she is my own child and have been in constant contact with my sister Kyle and niece. The events that lead up to Kingsley biting Alexia resulted from the girls entering my bedroom after I already told them my room was off limits. Alexia has been away from college for months and hasn’t seen Kingsley in a long time. Kingsley is used to the home being full of children and since the kids have gone away, the house has become quiet. While the two have been very close and friendly in the past, the dog has become very protective of me in the meantime. When guests are over Kinglsey stays in my bedroom and has been given access to a special fenced in area in my backyard. Anyone entering the house is made aware that the dog should not be bothered.
Why is an 18 year old wandering into her aunt’s bedroom with the door closed without her knowledge?
The second I realized Alexia had been bitten on the finger leaving a puncture mark on her thumb, I immediately called my sister, Kyle, and took her to the nearest emergency room. After the wound was cleaned and bandaged the girls went on with their day and I stayed in contact to make sure that my niece was ok. The one procedure that Alexia has had was to clean the wound to make sure it would not get infected.
TMZ is reporting two surgeries on her hand. I don’t think you overnight in the hospital to get a wound cleaned. Now the original paragraph and the entire statement is factually suspect. This statement was probably a mistake and will further piss Kyle off.
At this point I am looking at options to what the next step is for Kingsley. As many of you can relate, he is my best friend. This is a very difficult decision and time for all of us, but the safety of my family always comes first.
This breaks my heart. Banjo and I can relate a lot to Kim and Kingsley. We both share a quiet house where visitors are strongly discouraged. We have an easy, peaceful coexistence and if anything were to happen to him, I would be beside myself. I can’t imagine having to make a decision for him to live somewhere else. Or worse. I hope that if Kingsley does go, she can eventually get a new companion that is more suited to her. A nice easy going bassett hound maybe. Or a chocolate lab. Something with an easier temperament.
Now that reports of multiple bites are out, does that seal the deal that Kim will have to give up Kingsley?
In my personal experience people rarely give up a bad dog. The only time I’ve seen someone give up was when someone was severely hurt. Let’s hope that isn’t the case with Kim. Kim needs a lab, or a Bassett hound – good call TT.
My vote is for a golden cockerspaniel amazingly loyal and gentle breed. Those ears are so cute!
The dog is NOT BAD she has no sense of how to train him and herself she should be calling Cesar Milan asap dumb bitch
BINGO!
The dog is bad. It’s worthless it should be put down. Once a dog tastes human blood, that’s it. No coming back from being a killer.
I think you might be confusing dogs with vampires.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I thought the tasting human blood thing was for lions?
Can’t you people EVER just support me?
So you’re here for the camaraderie and acceptance?
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Girl you don’t need anyones help. 😀
many animal behaviorists don’t approve of cesar millan’s methods. i’m sort of neutral re him. i dont think kingsley started out a bad dog but between the terrier traits and bully dog traits you are talking a combustive mix when a beta type person like kim is the owner. i did dog rescue for a while, & we ended up w a lot of dogs who started out as out of control but cute puppies that got too hard to handle & left in the back yard. it’s a short step from that to nipping & then serious biting.
YOU NEUTERED CESAR MILAN??
Nah, I think his first wife did that.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Side note: When I went to get rescued, the large majority of dogs in there were pitbulls. I wonder how many times they get recycled and adopted out? Did I mention I was in a room with dozens of dog, mostly pit pulls, with no dog experience left to open all the cages at my discretion to chose my dog? It was king of crazy.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I had recently read (not sure where) that Kim has been spending most of her time with her ex husband that is suffering from cancer. The article claimed that she had basically moved in with him. If this is true, it explains why Kingsley was surprised by Alexia ‘ s presence. Maybe she has not been properly socializing him. Maybe the girls were there to walk or care for Kingsley. I don’t fully trust Kim ‘ s statement. She never fully accepts her own responsibility for her screw ups. Kingsley deserves better and it is a shame that he got stuck with Kim. Not the other way around.
I just replied to this and now it is somehow in moderation? GRRRRR
Anyway, what I said was, that makes more sense. I was having trouble picturing Alexia hanging out with Aunt Kim at her house for the day. Thanks.
Thanks Tamara
I’ve dog sat quit a bit. A few bully breeds. I have never had a unpredictable dog so I didn’t have specific instructions as how to enter the house. Maybe Kim thought she was clear in instruction, but let’s face it Kim is never clearly understood. By anyone.
I feel bad for Kingsley and Alexia. Even Kim. But Kim is to blame here, her response doesn’t add up for me.
Both of her hands are bandaged in that picture.
Hi tobaccorhoda,
One looks like it is the IV with a bandage over it.
I think the left is her IV Rhoda.
Why do you need an IV for a dog bite?
Antibiotics?
i’m guessing it’s for light sedation.
First of all, there are no “bad dogs.” We may try to force them into homes and back yards, but a dog is a dog, and anything bad that happens is our own fault. I think several people said months ago that Kingsley + Kim was a bad bit of math. A pit bull will attack when it sees weakness. I don’t think you can train that out of it, it is just a part of the breed. They can be sweethearts with your family, but they will protect those they think are their pack.
I started writing my comment prior to yours being posted & I 100% agree but I’ll take it a step further → Kim should NOT be a dog owner. With her mindset, a mini Chihuahua will dominate her. After reading this, I’m floored she still his this dog in her home. It’s (another) more serious accident waiting to happen. A ticking time bomb.
She should be forbidden to own goldfish.
Yes, you stated it perfectly!
And the precious dog will be the one to pay for Kim’s idiocy!
she’d prolly do fine w a bichon frise or maltese. those are pretty easygoing breeds.
“There are no bad dogs” – what a crock of shit. Who started this myth?
..and for the record, all pit bulls are not the same. Although I would never go near one, there are many who will not attack when they see weakness.
I don’t anthropomorphize animals so I don’t think of them as good and bad. Realize what they are and don’t be surprised when you get mauled if you try to pet a bear. There are some scary aggressive dogs but I blame humans for putting others in danger.
You are too stupid for words and ill informed sad
“I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won’t.”
Mark Twain
You are toooooo stupid for words and ill informred and let me repeat STUPID
Thank you belladonna You are soooooooooooooooooooo right these folks are knee jerks idiots with their asshole statements. Read and watch Cesar Milan enough said, Her own dog trainer said she wasn’t following through with his training of the dog she is fool
Cesar Milan is a moron.
Now you tell me. I bought his book. Or maybe I just read stuff online. I remember he wanted me to walk Banjo AT LEAST 45 minutes every day. Lunacy.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT to burn off energy you could have him walk on a treadmill. he still needs a walk outside once or twice a day, to socialize him & keep him happy, but that way the walks dont have to be as long.
lol
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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WHAT is wrong with this woman?? “Kingsley is used to the home being full of children and since the kids have gone away, the house has become quiet . . . . . the dog has become very protective of me in the meantime.”. HUH?! It’s not like Kingsley doesn’t know these kids!?
As much as it may hurt she needs to get rid of Kingsley YESTERDAY. I once had a friend who refused to rehome her dog (hate to say it, but it was a Pit bull) even after receiving several serious bites from him (1 requiring major surgery). Things got so bad she & her husband couldn’t even share a bed (or sofa, or chair, or even the front seat of the effin’ car) — because the dog was so protective! We all begged her to get rid of him but she refused as he was “her baby”. 2 years after she moved out West, a neighbor came over to introduce herself with her 2yr old child. The dog mauled the girl as if she were a ragdoll. The 2 women where able to grab the child & jump onto the kitchen table & scream for help until another neighbor arrived & called 911. Cops arrived & killed the dog & the poor child (now a young adult) is horribly scarred for life.
ALL dogs should be subservient to their masters (no matter their size). Clearly Kim doesn’t have the mindset to be a dog owner. She may be best suited to a hamster.
The dog should not have to pay the freight for the stupidity of the human.
Lawstangel, I so totally agree. It’s the humans that are not caring for and being responsible for the animals. Kim can’t control herself much less anything in the animal world. I feel sorry for any animal that would be in her care from what I have seen of Kim. Kyle on the other hand is the dumbest jerk in the world for posting this crap on any media she can. It’s the same ole, same ole, look at me feel sorry for me and my kid. The kid is 18 the door was shut. Number ONE stay OUT. These kids have the years to be an adult but the mind set of a slug. I think in this case that goes for the adults in the family too. I am a total animal lover and have 3 small dogs that are very well taken care of, and it makes me furious that people get dogs or any animal and don’t do the right thing by them. In this case it made for a story line and now what does she do, the story line is still there and she doesn’t know what to do with it. Hopefully she does love Kingsley, and hopefully she take care of him. Being in one room doesn’t sound too good to me for that type of breed, they need to run and get all that energy out. One room (for how long) and a fenced off place outside? They need companionship too. I pray for Kingsley that all gos well for him. He can’t help it that he was adopted into an idiot family!
Sad but true. It is Kingsly who will pay the price, and Kim will just go on being the stupid bitch who has shit for brains. Excuse the language – but I’m so sick of this woman I could vomit. There is nothing but air between her ears, and definitely NO compassion for what the dog will suffer due to HER lack of training him, and also getting the best trainer possible.
No one should have a dog they can not dominate under all circumstances. I learned my lesson with a German Shepard. Since then only Yellow Labs, which are the greatest dogs ever, except for the shedding. Kingsley is way too much dog for Kim, which was painfully evident from the first. Poor Kim, its difficult to separate from Kingsley, but its best for everyone.
caotaibn if you could read and be a little smart you would know dominate is not the key to a balanced dog READ CESAR’S BOOK PEOPLE
I have a Newfoundland. He has 80lbs on me! So technically he could dominate me for sure. Like if he decided to take off after a squirrel (which he would want to befriend, naturally!), I couldn’t hold him back on a leash. However, I knew he’d be way bigger than me, so he was trained well when he was small… Plus Newfies don’t need to be taught how to play using “soft mouth” or other “gentle behaviors”, unlike many breeds, and if you’ve ever met a Newfoundland, you probably know their gentle nature. I’ve never heard of one exception.
But point being, my dog could physically dominate me, yet never in a million years would that be a concern to me, the vet, dog trainers… I mean, I could probably have gotten away without even doing obedience classes. The domination factor is kinda… I don’t know. Harsh? Maybe it’s just the way you worded it?
I suspect that Kyle posted the pictures maybe to ‘force’ Kim into this situation so that she is now obligated to rehome Kingsley. Now that Kim has released a statement focusing more on defending her animal and blaming her niece, I don’t think Kyle will be taking this too well. Kim appears to not be physically or mentally strong enough to handle a troubled animal.
The time comes when no matter how others try to help — unless you’re willing to help yourself, people will leave you to your own devices. I’m sure Kyle & the rest of the family is praying for the best but no one will be visiting her anytime soon — (or at least until she removes Kingsley from her home).
@ Michael: I think you’re right. I think Kyle put Kim on blast with those pics. But I bet if that dog had lunged at Alexia’s face, then it would have been a whole different story. She could have lost an eye! And Kim blaming her neice is ridiculous. But having a slumber party at the hospital was a little silly, too. These people are too much.
Yeah the slumber party with photographic evidence and everyone’s makeup and hair done to perfection inferred to me that Kyle knew the photos would be a story and she probably was hoping it would pressure Kim to get rid of Kingsley if she posted them. If she really is fearful for Kim and her children’s safety then I dont blame Kyle for capitalising on the unfortunate incident.
Hey Kitty Mamma
Did you ever wonder why the dog bit her in the first place? She had to have been in a place she shouldn’t have, and made a move she shouldn’t have. Not the dogs fault. No, no dog should bite, but there is a reason he did, and the kid did something. I don’t care what she says, she went into a room she had no business being in. The dog probably thought she was a threat or something I don’t know but the dog was obviously challenged in some way. Being admitted into a hospital for a puncture wound on the thumb seems a bit strange too. A slumber party is totally ridiculous in hospital and an I.V. ? It sounds like her hand should have been ripped off, and it wasn’t. What a waist of a hospital room, dear Kyle I’m sure made absolutely sure that someone had a camera. I wonder how much Kyle paid the hospital to allow all the crap that went down. A bunch I’ll bet. What a media whore.
@puppylove aka Kim Richards, unless she physically harmed the animal of course Kingsley is to blame. Maybe Kim and Alexia share some of the blame (ie Kim should NOT have guests with a dangerous territorial untrained dog in the same house, maybe Alexia did wander into a room she shouldn’t have), however the fact you seem to be attributing blame to Kyle just bewilders me. I’m not the biggest fan of Kyle but even I call bs on your comment.
Well said, @ Michael. Whichever authority in Kim’s municipality that oversees animal welfare should take possession of Kingsley to ultimately place him in a home with an experienced Pit Bull owner, who could provide Kingsley a consistently structured homelife. If that proves impossible, then Kinsley should be humanely put down.
Since Kingsly has bitten, he essentially has become a loaded and unlocked weapon, which can kill if mishandled. Because it is the case, Kim should be
supoena’d to appear at Animal Control Court to be fined, surrender Kingsley (ideally for re-homing) and ordered to thereafter not own any pets, or care for and/or board another’s pet for any length of time.
The Court should stress to Kim (and her fans) that pet ownership is not a right. It is a privilege and responsibility.
@michael, I think you are spot on re Kyle posting the pics..in order to force kim into some responsibility.
It’s about time she took some too.
Wow, what a predicament Kim is in. And it’s all her own fault. I understand her explanation about how, with no children around, Kingsley has become overly protective but that’s not good. She says she has a fenced area in the backyard for the dog, so why doesn’t she just put Kingsley in the run when she has company?
I thought she got the dog because her kids were out if the house so what changed?
I think she got the dog before they were out of the house. Chad and Kimberly were still living at home most of last season.
Thanks, Angel(?)!
Then I got distracted further down in the comments. Another fun one I missed out on!
I have read that there were 2 surgeries on here hand. You dont stay in a hospital for 2 days to have your hand cleaned and bandaged. Why all the lies!!!
Also, this was the 4th attack on a person, and because no one will report it to Animal Control, they wont come out to investigate.
This is truly unbelievable for the LA County of Animal Services to act
blind and stupid to this situation. What if the next person loses an
eye, or a limb, or maybe their life!!!! Just because it is not
reported, they know about it, so they should act, like immediately. Is
it because Kim is a tv celebrity or what. Come on, do your damn job.
And Kyle should do the right thing too and report it so someone else
doesnt get injured.
Poor Kingsley. He will now pay one way or another (the ultimate payment) for the humans around him not knowing how to handle him. If Kim’s statement is true then she did the right thing by putting Kingsley in a safe (for him and others) place.
Kim has had him trained, and for a moment he reverted to his breed’s unreliability. I can’t believe how she is minimizing the extent of her neice’s injuries. She is very lucky nobody was seriously maimed.
The entire breed is NOT unreliable. The trainer we saw on the show was horrible and did a horrible job. If what Kim says is true, Kingsley has his own yard space away from everyone and is put in her room when others come over then she’s doing some things right. She just needs a new/better trainer to work with her and Kingsley. Her training is just as important as his.
Kingsley was not trained.
Pit Bulls are individual dogs with their own personalities but with consistent handling will become a very well behaved family member.
They don’t revert to anything.
Maybe they’ll have Caesar Milan get involved and tape if for RHOBH. 🙂 But, even with serious effective training, I can’t believe that Kim would maintain and enforce it. She has wanted another baby and/or man in her life, and, unfortunately for Kingsley he’s IT. I don’t imagine that she understands that dogs are happiest when they know what the boundaries are. She’s let him be pack leader, so he’s always on ‘watch’.
There is no way Kim can manage a dog like that. Pittbulls are not lap dogs. They are not meant to be house dogs. That dog needs to be with a master that will provide structure and an appropriate outlet for his natural instincts. Kim seems to barely function. Dogs can sense when someone is ” off”. I’m sure that’s only making the problem worse.
Actually if you watch Pitbulls and Parolees, plenty of Pits are lapdogs. Each dog is different. Kim needs training as much, if not more, than Kingsley.
My Pit, Scout, is in bed with me right now. Softest fur of any dog I’ve owned with beautiful yellow eyes.
He is trained and comes when called.
He only snapped at me once when young over his food. Now anyone can take his food. List goes on.
Absolutely the most attentive breed I’ve owned.
He thinks he is a lap dog but I also lift him often, it enforces that Im stronger which is a lie.
Call the “Dog whisperer.” Cesar Milan says he rehabilitates the dog and trains the owner. Kingsley has been trained by Kim
to be the leader of the pack. Not a good thing.
So true judymac soooooooo true
I feel bad for Kingsley’s next victim. Just hope it’s not a child.
I feel bad for the next victim too! Kyle needs to report the dog, since Kim won’t find it a proper owner! Someone needs to be responsible!
Yes, sadly, Kim needs to do the right thing by that dog and give him up. It’s the only humane thing to do since she doesn’t have shit for brains. The dog could probably be rehabilitated if he gets away from Kim, and to someone that knows what they’re doing. I want Kingsley to have a chance at a life if at all possible.
I surprised that animal control hasn’t gotten involved due to the fact that the treating physician is supposed to report it. Does LA County not have that rule? My son was attacked and bitten by his friend’s dog years ago and because, unbeknownst to me, the dog had already been identified as agressive by animal control he was euthanized. I never even had a chance to report the attack, the hospital did.
Btw…this dog was a Jack Russell mix and attacked my son so badly that he had over 80 stitches. I’m just adding this part because any dog can attack and any dog can do serious damage depending on the size of the person they bite and where they bite them.
Sometimes the most aggressive dogs are the little ones with Napoleon complexes. They just have a lessor capacity for damage so it’s not as heavily reported as when pitbulls maul children for example. The worst dog I ever met was a minifox terrier and it scared me, worst cat was a siamese. I hope your son is ok now and doesn’t fear all dogs. That would be a shame.
Thanks Michael…it was a long time ago and luckily my son had an amazing plastic surgeon. My son was even more lucky to come home from the hospital to a house with 3 dogs (including 2 pits) who absolutely loved and adored him and he has always chalked the attack up to his friend’s dog being an asshole, lol!
Yeah it drives me insane when people’s little dogs nip and it’s just like, “Ooops!” But a nip is a bite, too!!! My 180lb dog has gotten nipped by so many little “ankle biters” with the Napoleon complex, I swear, I don’t think he even feels it through his fur. Just stands there wagging his tail and drooling. But dang, if he bit another dog? All hell would break loose!
I have a jack Russell. Back when he was a puppy, he thought everyone was playing with him. This jack assed kid in our neighborhood, used to taunt him. Then he got nipped. My dog spent ten days in doggy jail. I am not a bad owner. I have a dachshund too. But as a nurse, I am fearful of pit bulls. I have seen way too many bites.
I live next door to an elementary school so every afternoon I make sure Banjo is in the house when the kids do their perp walk past the house. The other day during the after dinner stroll (the Mexican families in the hood all go for a healthful walk after dinner, babies and all) Banjo was outside when I heard him going batshit two little kids about five were standing on the sidewalk in front of the side fence mocking him. The parent was like four blocks behind with a stroller. By the time I got sick of it I went out there and screamed at the kids like the old crazy lady on the corner (Because, duh) and let them know he bites. Also he is quite the fan of Mexican food.
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TT you can kick my grammar diss lex sss ass and it’d be deserved but I’m a little confused by this paragraph in above story.
“Why is an 18 year old wandering into her aunt’s bedroom with the door closed without her knowledge”
Is that coming from you or is Kim shading her niece?
I’m 90% certain that was TT snark.
No that awkward sentence was from me. I am trying to imagine anyone family member or not going into my bedroom with the dog inside and the door closed. I can’t imagine a friend, someone I’m dating, or a family member doing that. It makes no sense.
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Because the kid knows the dog and wanted to say hi. She probably did not believe that the dog was dangerous.
I agree with you teecee, it’s her aunt’s house she has grown up with, there probably aren’t alot of boundaries. My extended family moves freely around my house… the only thing is if Kim really did expressly tell them not to go in there, we’re talking about a college-aged girl, not a child. She should have listened.
Sorry in advance for the crassness, but maybe the kid needed to number two. Ducked into her aunt’s master for privacy from younger sibs.
Yeah but kim is a flake. The kid probably thought kim was being over dramatic and that she was smarter than her aunt.
Nobody goes in my bedroom without permission except who I’m sleeping with and my dog. No one is even allowed to go upstairs really. Why go into Kim’s bedroom? That’s weird. Only reason that makes sense is what Teecee said.
Circa Florida 1994, my visiting 8 yr old nephew who had just gotten to the house from the airport was attacked by the ‘family pitbull’. Crazy thing was that we didn’t know Prince was a pitbull. Just thought he was a fantastic guard dog and strong mutt. My nephew and his cousins were taunting the dog thru the gate and once he stepped into the yard the dog pinned him against the door and attacked. My oldest nephew heard the screams and stopped the attack by spraying Prince with the water hose.
My nephew was bitten on his arm, shoulder and face. Thankfully the face was just one bite. 22 stitches later I was faced with a tough decision. The ER doc told me a dog that did that damage, no matter the provocation, was a danger. I sent the dog to quarantine and was told he’d be euthanized. Fortunately for Prince, he was adopted and went to work as a guard dog. Although I loved coming to Florida and having a ‘vacation dog’ I realized I could not risk Prince attacking another child.
From the moment I saw Kingsley on tv I knew he would attack someone. Not Kim. Everybody else. He needs a strong owner and zero access to children.
The worst part is you say the kids were taunting the dog. Disgusting that the dog almost paid with his life because they did that.
Kids are kids. How you can sit there and say an 8 year old with 22 stitches is “disgusting” when you don’t know the circumstances is kind of ridiculous.
I’m mostly playing devils advocate here – you seem to be a huge dog lover, pit bulls in particular – but they ARE dangerous.
You can’t take external life circumstances, like “oh the kid was taunting him” and “but she walked into the room” and “the gate was supposed to be closed” to make excuses for a dangerous breed of dog. Yes – BREED.
I know there are exceptions, you don’t have to cite some pitbull show to me, but as a whole it is SAFER to be cautious around pitbulls. You can go watch a dozen different videos of some Lion playing with kittens and children on YouTube – that doesn’t make them any less dangerous. Just because a particular dog is highly trained and lovable does not excuse the inherent danger of the BREED.
I’m not putting my safety in jeopordize to appease DOG PC or pitbull support groups – I think the fact these various support groups have to be so vocal that something isn’t dangerous, shows that is in fact dangerous.
No you are still stupid. These dogs aim to please Which is why they are so heavily used for dog fighting. As to biting IT HAS BEEN PROVEN YOU ASS THAT UNLESS THEY ARE BALANCED AND YOU ARE THE ALPHA AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN BEING MEAN AND HARSH, THAT THEY CAN BITE. EVERY SINGLE DOG THAT MIKE VICK HAD! THAT WENT TO BEST FRIENDS IS FINE AND LIVES WITH CHILDREN AND CATS ETC SO SHUT UP YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE YES WE DO NEED TO BE VIGILANT ABOUT IT BECAUSE THESE DOGS GET SLAMMED MOSTLY BY IDIOTS LIKE YOU.
You seem very intelligent and articulate.
I’m with you, Psylocke. The pit bull with a locking jaw when it bites is a dangerous breed.
Sybil …. I’m sorry but your comments are ridiculous! Dogs are dogs and sorry but some breeds really shouldn’t be companion dogs. Everyone out there can hate me for saying this but anyone owning a Pitt is taken a risk do to the irresponsible breading that takes place in the U.S.. Sorry, but true. Pitts, Dobermans, Shepherds, etc. have been breed for attacks for generations. It’s not just these dogs but these are the most common breeds people use for protection. And I’m sure Kim wanted a dog for protection and companionship when she chose Kingsley. Now combined aggression with locking jaw and an ignorant owner and you have a recipe for disaster. It’s not just large dogs either. The two worst bites I’ve ever seen were from a Boston bull terrior and a Chow. They both have locking jaws. Our Boston would bite down on a chew rope and you could lift him a couple of feet off the ground and he wouldn’t let go! I saw my Grandfather’s Chow bite through steel toe boots during a fight with another Chow!
Just read more and know that every dog that Michale Vick had that they could take in was rehabilitated by Best Friends and Bully Project in Brooklyn, These dogs 23 of them from Vick taken in by Best Friends in Utah all but one is on a loving home two just recently died. The one who did not get a home was too physically ill to be fostered or homed. Injuries to expensive they kept him he is fun loving but very ill. This hysteria is from ignorance I have two friends who were bitten by a Rottie and a collie years ago. But they are comfortably with my GSD They have watched him for me while II was away. Not one problem I am a Cesar Devotee and if you really hear and do as he suggest you will have a balanced dog My friends mini on was so full of anxiety she got Cesar’s book and after months of following it her dog now does not try and bite everyone no excessive barking and he is a lamb Plays with me dog they get allow fine. People need to know that the stats on bites is skewed The US gov stats say otherwise most people don’t report small dog bites But they are actually higher than or about the same as large dog bites As Cesar says don’t humanize your dogs they are dogs But don’t mistreat them Rules Boundaries and limitations
Sybil: I’m actually pretty sympathetic toward what you’re saying, but going “no you’re stupid!” takes away from the point you’re trying to make. And like, how old are you?
I agree and it’s part of why I didn’t comment again, until now. Crazy came out on both sides. Even the well stated ideas were stated by people firm in their beliefs. No point in my “arguing” my side when I know it won’t change the other side’s thoughts on the issue.
Hey all of the Michael Vick dogs were rehabed and around children NOT ONE INCIDENT and they WERE FIGHTING DOGS read read and read some more
I do not want to read. I want to round up all the dogs and take them to a kill shelter and be done with it. And then I’ll laugh.
Is sybilgoing to call the FBI on me? BWAHAHAHAHA.
We had a pitbull in our family for about 10 years and he was a sweet baaaaby…BUT there was one time he tried to get a cat. I know if he had caught her, it would have been a horrible shredded bloodbath. My step mother was an experienced trainer and breeder. Though I adored our dog, pitbulls are not for anyone who doesn’t have specific experience. It’s too risky. Kim was just plain ignorant about getting such a dog. Though I know it will hurt her, she is asking for trouble by keeping him. She doesn’t contain the day to day discipline to do what it takes.
Kingsley feels like he’s the pack leader. I learned this from cesar millan. Gawd I love that man. This is why I never got a german shepherd. I can barely handle my shih Tzu..lol
Tell it Pam and yet people still say stupid stuff That it is the breed How ignorant
@ Pam I have two German Shephards, lost my 13 year old male last winter. All got training, socialization, not protection. My female has the metality of a lab….she is fun and goofy. My new male is 8 months, and a perfect gentlman. We go walking every day and when someone approaches I tell him to say hello, and he sits and shakes. My neighbors love him! My dogs have never once gotton loose, and I have key locks on both fence gates. But honestly the locks are not because I am worried about my dogs getting out, I am more worried about someone stealing them.
When I first saw Kingsley on TV try to attack the trainer I knew that he was very dangerous…I was very afraid for Kim…I had the feeling the dog may attack her someday because she doesn’t seem to be all there at times and the dog will sense that.
Yes, that was scary. Not making an excuse, but rather a possible reason – I thought the trainer sucked; he seemed rather hyper and didn’t appear to have the personality of a pet-lover. I think Kingsley ‘read’ the trainer correctly and reacted.
Agree..and the red nose pit bulls are the most aggressive of the pit bulls as well. As a dog owner for most of my life..you are so correct about how dogs can sense people out. Years ago I had a Doberman that only responded to me and not my ex because he was such a pu$$y and even the dog knew it before I did and would not take direction from him…Kim needs to get another breed..she is too wackodoodle for a pit..you have to be consistently strong for a red nose.
Wow, I did not know that about the red-nosed pitbulls. That’s funny about the Doberman and your husband. And as for wackadoodle, that’s a cross between a Poodle and ummmm? 🙂
Whackjob.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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i think you meant red zone rather than red nose. otherwise, silly.
Okay … this completely off topic and totally snarky, but WTF is that plaid thing on Kyle’s head??? Is it a matching sleep mask for her pj’s? So the hospital florescent lights won’t disturb her beauty sleep?
Yes mam!
Oh, and Alexia’s got a matching plaid PJ/sleep mask set in a different color!
Last time I was in the hospital I looked like shit. I was wearing pajamas, but they didn’t match, and it’s super embarrassing, but I didn’t even have a sleep mask!!!
;-
Are they filming now?
Yep!
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh god, is this going to be a storyline??
Ok. Well I’m going with my first thought. This is Kim’s only chance at a storyline. I’m not saying she did t get bitten. But they probably spoon fed it all to TMZ. And a conflict between the sisters, real or contrived, helps ratings.
All of Kim’s words seem to be trying to make her family feel guilty for abandoning her. Kinda like “well you all left me so my dog and I turned mean and you can’t blame is because it’s your fault for leaving us”
I don’t think kim is so much a mental case as a fucking brat. But what the hell do I know.
Well, we couldn’t watch Kim practically making out with the damn dog for another season, so moving on to “Bentley bites!” is, sadly, Kim’s only possible story line. Except relapse…
It sounds like she didn’t keep the bite clean, so was admitted due to infection. Her family probably is a huge benefactor to the hospital, so they can stay whenever they want to. I do not think the dog should have to pay for what it was supposed to do..be a guard dog. You don’t get a lab for protection, you get a pit , rotty or doberman. If she went in her bedroom where she wasn’t supposed to do, then the dog goes into protection mode. It is her niece’s fault, case closed.
Animal bites can be deep and nasty! My daughter is a vet tech and got bit by a cat at work. The vet cleaned the wound himself. The infection was from palm to elbow next afternoon….she spent 4 days in the hospital.
She had a puncture wound. Those type of wounds infect easily.
I was bitten by a dog as a child and because of the scar on my right thigh I won’t ever forget it. In my opinion dogs that bite humans need to be put down. There’s no gray area for me when it comes to that. To this day I don’t like dogs, don’t want a dog and will not visit anyone that has one.
How utterly stupid are you? kids bite do you put them down? or is it only big dogs???? Because the dog that took a bite out of our mailman in NYC was a small dog and it happened twice with two different dogs Read and find out why this is really happening get Caesars book and read it idiot.
Hey,hey,hey … easy there Syb.
No need to get nasty.Storeyy was just telling us about the horrible experience she had as a child. I know A LOT of people who were bitten as children as well and they feel the same way. Please stop with the STUPID shit … it ain’t nice and it makes you look stupid.
I knew by the weekend someone was going to compare this situation with a HUMAN BEING..come on now put the kids down….that’s when we go from animal lover to crackpot ..seriously..if you gotta use this comparison to defend your position you need to do more research…animals are not dominant over humans…well maybe over you but did not dominate over me
Come on with it asshole You only acknowledge your ignorance by your response and stupid comments . I should send this off to the FBI section that deals with internet threats. Your comments are sad and a tad bit telling. I live in NYC and never once did anyone say kids were less important. Perhaps your name could placed in Westlaw and or Lexis? or we could find you just by your internet IP address.
And by the way no harm found in your lockjaw remark However, your stupidity is showing
Exactly, no one is stupid because they don’t like dogs due to their own experience. I’ve got one that will really make you go all “Sybil” on me, I hate all Pitt Bulls and won ‘t go near them no matter what any over zealous dog lover tells me how great they are. The fact that they have the capacity to inflict such harm and are known to do so constantly with no provocation is enough for me to stay clear of them. Btw, my whole family has Pitt Bulls and are huge advocates of the breed, I just don’t visit them! Lol
As for Kim, she is the last person on earth who should own this agressive breed as has been proven by Kingsley’s violent behavior. He should be put down before he kills someone.JMO
Oh, wait, we’re dealing with a crazy one here!
“I’ve got one that will really make you go all “Sybil” on me”
Bwahahahaha love it!
For me it’s always been about what I could not live with.
I get embarrassed when my dog won’t come to me in public when I call it. So my dog comes to me. If I’m paying for my dogs food then it sure as hell will not snap at me over food.
It took me hours in my yard to train my pit to come, sit and stay.
I won’t own another Pit when this one passes. He has severe cancer and his time is very limited.
I’ve seen in him the propensity to dislike a person or dog for no apparent reason. He is extremely protective of my car when he is in it. Which would be ok if he wasn’t such a strong dog.
Owning a type of dog like mine or one like TT’s takes awareness. I won’t do it again.
I saw Kim’s episode with the trainer and it was apparent that was a dog bite waiting to happen.
California has strict laws about dog bites so I don’t understand why the dog is still in her home.
She’ll live. Leave the dog alone.
Amen Shannah
Recent local news story: mother, father and two daughters live in a house. Mother’s son from a previous marriage needs a place for he and his pitbulls to live. The mother and step father allow him to live over the garage. Very strict rules that the ferocious dog is not to leave the apartment unless lashed my the son. Parents go to a wedding. Son is out. Daughters are hanging out in the yard. They hear the dog barking and figure he has to pee. They go to let him out and he lunges at the little sister. Won’t let go. The other daughter faught him off. Police com. They finally haven or shoot the doc who is holding the girls captive. Little sister’s arm is hanging by tendons. She lost a lot of blood. Spent weeks in the hospital. A half dozen or so surgeries. Lots more in the future. Doubtful that she will ever be able to lift her arm.
So yeah, shannah. She’ll live. Leave the dog alone. Idiot.
I’m said the doc died. At least we have six more dwarves. um little people who are alternatively abled.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Laughing, I have sneezy here and hope someone adopts him.
No, the idiot is the kid who went to open the door if they had strict rules that the ferocious dog was not to leave the apartment unless on a leash in the company of his owner. If the dog’s owner was away and the dog needed to pee, let him pee on the floor. That’s a problem for the irresponsible owner to deal with.
People should not bother other people’s dogs. Especially when they have been told the dog is vicious as in your story.
So yeah, Teecee. Leave the dog alone.
Let’s see Tuesday where we live a 5 year old was playing outside minding his own business, a women visiting a friend was leaving, she opened the door, dog bolted, 100 puncture wounds later the 5 year old is still in the hospital.
Boy did nothing, did not even see the dog coming. If it was my child, I would kill the dog myself.
Oh and the boy was 2 houses away from the house the dog & owner were visiting. He did nothing to provoke the dog.
Kim cannot control this dog, would not be surprise if the next attack is dog going after her.
Why would it’s is dead. Shot in the face as it should be. You fucking socially retarded idiots who put animals above people should be executed.
The only so called person who is retarded would be you. Ignorant and retarded on the issue of dogs and or cats. Your comments are that of a psychopath. ….
When I was 5 and my brother was 11, we were in our uncle’s barn. It was there I was full-blown attacked by his huge dog, Heinz 56. IT WAS MY UNCLE’S FAULT, NOT THE DOG’S. My uncle had told me to go over to where the dog had killed a small animal in the woods and dragged it into the barn. This dog had ALWAYS been friendly. However, when I did as my uncle said, I got too close – about 6 feet, and the dog decided I was in his territory – which I was thanks to my uncle. I walked away to the pen where my brother was feeding the bulls, heard a growl, turned around and this huge dog jumped on top of me – toppling me into the bull pen. The bulls started stomping around (none hit me thank God), and my front teeth were knocked out from the jolt to my head hitting the concrete. The dog went for my throat and I turned just in time. He got my ear instead, along with many small bites to the skull – and a skull bleeds a lot. My brother jumped the feeding barrier, picked me up and took me to the house. I went into shock. Thank heavens mom was a nurse, and the area doctor was great.
THIS DOG, along with most any dog will NOT BITE and/or ATTACK unless teased or provoked. It was not the dog’s fault. It was my uncle’s for telling me to go into Fritzie’s territory to see HIS kill. Dogs by nature do not bite people. When humans are bitten, it’s usually their own fault: teasing, provoked, in the wrong place, etc. I’m on Kingley’s side. And I WAS THE VICTIM!
My only experience with a pitbulls is through a very close friend. He is a retired police officer, now paralyzed, after being shot 5 times on duty. He has a little use of one hand. I was there the day he got his pit at 8 weeks old.
He, his 4 home health aides, parents and siblings all went through extensive training along with his dog. I always brought my 2 dogs over for play dates. Everything was great. His dog was progressing very well and fit right in as a lovable, friendly, sociable companion.
One afternoon when his dog was 2 he had a BBQ with around 40 people. Lots of little kids in the pool, adults, etc. the pitbull was hanging out with everyone in the backyard. A girlfriend showed up with her tiny yorkie and as soon as she put her on the ground the pitbull pounced and killed the yorkie. It was horrific. Especially with all the children there. It happened so fast, no one could stop it in time.
Ever since then, my dogs have never been to his house again. When I go over his dog has to be in the run or crated. The dog is huge and powerfully built and really scares me after that incident.
The reason for such a long comment is this: I know this dog was never abused or mistreated by his owner. He was trained as well as all intimately involved with my friend and his household on a daily basis. Obviously something is off and my fear is it could have easily been a child or could be my friend who can’t portect or defend himself. In this individual situation, all the proper procedures seem to have been put in place-training, dog is loved and taken care of very well. So what happened? It leads me to believe it’s an issue with the breed or maybe the bloodline of the specific litter. Thoughts from y’all who have more experience with pitbulls? Confusing to understand. Before I am screamed at and so graciously called an “idiot or stupid”-I’m not condemning the entire breed. Just confused.
IMO kim needs to find a better home for Kingsley. From last season it didn’t appear she could handle him. With the right owner/trainer he may do very well. Apologies for the long post, just venting and confused. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
That’s just how it IS – I experienced pretty much the exact same situation.
My dads friend who he worked with at the McClellan air force base before Clinton shut it down was the owner of two smaller dogs (I don’t know the breed – they were just the typical white and fluff). One day we were all out at this old style bistro they always went to and I just remember coming back to the house and hearing screaming – my dad wouldn’t let me go into the kitchen however I still saw puddles of blood from the living room and to this day I’ve never seen that level of blood in real life.
It turned out that the neighbors pitbull had gotten out of their backyard, went INTO his house through the doggie dog, and CSI-style murdered the two dogs into pieces.
Being “the leader of the pack” in your personal household has nothing to do with the external stimulia that a dog, intentional or not, will inevitably be introduced to. It’s. just. not. safe.
My intention isn’t to grab my pitchfork, but its insanity for the same thing to happen again, and again, and again, and again, and then to just ignore it or expect “doing your research” to negate all the experiences and documented maimings.
PsylockE IS A FOOL It most certainly matter about training of this dog or any other dog Pitchfork he and or she is either stupid and or a psycho
“I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won’t.”
Mark Twain
You are still too stupid for words People if you know this fool report him/her to animal abuse If someone like you is still breathing , then that to is sad since you are worthless. Ignorant and a total fool,.
I’m writing a report right now!!! THIS INSTANT!
Now WTF am I reporting and who is this report for?
😉
Too bad it wasn’t Brandi, but then the dog would have been destroyed already.
Now that I got that out of the way..Kim is a fucking retard. She had how many children? Small children, and last season she was down to one child? Where did her children go? She can’t care for herself, whomever gave her that dog should be held accountable. My entire life I’ve been raised around large breed dogs who were raised right, trained properly and would never hurt a fly. Kim doesn’t deserve to have a dog, a kid, a cat, or anything that depends on her to survive. I hope they take Kingsley away, re-train him and find him a forever home with somebody who loves him.
I think Sybil needs to be putdown before she lockjaws someone.
Dumb as a bunch of rocks Just by that inane comment Little minds are often at a lack for words with 3 syllables
Consider that a threat? and yet you are too stupid to know this
@simone-soooo true and I am laughing hysterically. I also think Sybil maybe has forgotten to take her meds. And perhaps should take a double dose today to catch up to sanity. And for all her screaming about reading Cesar’s book, I guarantee you based upon her consistent use of words such as fool, retarded, stupid, idiot, etc his publicist would never want Sybil recommending his book to anyone. 🙂 just not a good look for an author to be recommended by a certifiable whackadoodle (just love that new word I learned here!-thanks TT’s fabulous commenters)
Hey Sybil …. you are fucking nuts!
Okay we get it ~ you LIKE Pitbulls
ALOT. Just because some of us
differ in your opinion,please stop
with the “Idiot and stupid” name
calling.It makes you sound like a
little ‘tween girl who can’t express
herself without sinking to that level.
GROW UP!!!
Very grown asshole I love animals I understand your fear and stupidity as just what it is Stupidity and ignorance The level? was fine that you claim I sank into… I am tired of stupid and you and those like you who also sank with the dumb ass remarks you all made are equal on one level. Being Dumb! Differing is fine But to encourage death of any dog is due in part to the stupidity of the owner is a sign of fear and ignorance. Name calling I say is defines who you are stupid and ignorant fearful people who made remarks on killing a dog because it has a ass for an owner. This Proven by Best Friends in Utah that all dogs have the capacity to be rehabilitated and trained to be balanced. So again if you were to read more and do your research perhaps opinion would have an enlightenment. AW.
Haven’t read all your comments but read enough to know you appear to treat animals better than humans. Enough with the name calling. (Fortunately) NOT everyone experiences things as you do. I’m surprised your threats to report people’s IP addresses are even being allowed here. TT must be letting some have fun . . . at your expense.
The thing is Sarah. She doesn’t know anyone’s IP address here. But I do, hers in particular. 🙂
I’m reporting her to the International IP Investigation Committee right now.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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You cannot read! and I am so sure you think you are right. sad
Okay, I’m back in the sweet spot of my site viewing week. You can stop now. Take you pills or whatever restores your sanity.
Personally I find that eating organic and clean really stops my emotion freakouts, especially if I take my hormonal balance whackadoodle supplements without missing any. Good luck!
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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When Pit Bulls Were America’s Darling
There was a time when reports of pit bull attacks were nonexistent. The sight of a pit bull walking down the street didn’t evoke terror, but rather reminded people of beloved dogs they had seen in the movies and in the media. An American favorite, the pit bull was featured in army recruitment posters during World War I and there were several famous pit bulls that served in the American military. They were a dog that was seen as a protector, a friend and an athlete, the sort of dog Americans aspired to have by their side. In fact, sports teams in the 1930s used the image of the pit bull to depict an admirable competitor and sportsman. To be called a “pit bull” was a compliment!
Pit bulls were also seen as a child’s best friend. On the silver screen the pit bull was a constant companion to the adorable kids in the Our Gang comedies, as well as with Buster Brown. The breed was also the corporate mascot for the Buster Brown shoe company. And who doesn’t think fondly of the pit bull terrier depicted sitting next to a gramophone in the famous RCA Victor image. For a good portion of American history the breed was beloved. Then in the 1980’s the way the public felt about pit bulls changed.
Demonizing the Dog
The big shift in American sentiment toward pit bulls began in earnest in the 1980s. By 1986 over thirty communities had instituted or were considering breed specific legislation that targeted banning pit bulls. It wasn’t the breed itself that had communities in an uproar, but the way humans were choosing to train and work with these dogs. Dog fighting, although illegal, had made a comeback and pit bulls were the fighter of choice. Drug dealers, gang members and other criminals seeking protection began training pit bulls as guard dogs. Negative training. In 1987 when a pit bull guarding a marijuana crop mauled and killed a two-year-old boy in California, Americans were outraged. Rather than focusing on the real problem, which was any breed of dog trained to be aggressive toward people, the knee-jerk reaction was to strike out at the breeds chosen to be trained to attack. In Tijeras, New Mexico, just outside of Albuquerque, the toughest pit bull ban of the time was instituted, allowing animal control officers to seize and destroy them on sight without compensation to the owner. From darling to demon, how times change!
Today, public perception of pit bulls is starting to shift back, but there is still a great deal of work to do to help people understand the true nature of these dogs. You can help by educating yourself with the truth about the breed and sharing it with others. There is no breed of dog that is inherently bad.
Cesar continues to try to help educate people and tonight on Leader of the Pack he tells the story of Turbo, a misunderstood mutt that never had a chance at freedom. He was chained up for his whole life, and now in the shelter he is aggressive when others pass his cage Yes and we will see how Cesar does this. He has rehabilitated over 50 pits into families with NO incidents with humans and no bites.
Sybil would call a dog stupid for barking…I wouldn’t let an animal anywhere near Sybil.. a bit$ch raising a bit$ch…now run tell to the FBI. So they can profile you and keep you on radar…we need to track people like you
Holy shit.
Myth: Sybil is a normal well adjusted member of society, with manners.
FACT: Sybil has been baker acted and is using a computer on a hall pass.
You are too stupid for words those statistics are not mine and from a Vet working in California – Best Friends of Utah also confirm the info so that just shows how dumb you are.a confirmed jackass, fyi I have a GSD 7 years old trained But I do love and like pits they too are lovely dogs Those stats on people owning pit being in jail is lower than you think or don’t think The real stats are are not bearing out your stats hmmmm So wrong and yet you keep writing and I can find more stats to contradict your knee jerk stats Mine are firm legitimate sources not opinionated and people like yourself, Research you call that Heracles well perhaps you did look it up I have access to court records through Lexis Bloomberg and Westlaw that deny your stats. go sign up! if you can stand to be sooo wrong
Where did you go girl? *pokes the bear*
Seems like I missed all the fun. My fat cat is reading over my shoulder and snickering at Sybil. He’s a 20lb Maine Coon mix. He thinks Sybil should go back to posting on the PETA boards.
My high school friend had a Maine Coon and introduced me to him once. She lifted him up and held him out to me, as a dog person I just looked at him quisickly and after 5 seconds he wanted to be put down and swiped her dress with a paw ripping it in half at the waist so she would drop him. Very awkward for all involved. I respected that cat.
They are big cats. Sometimes up to 25lbs. Mine plays fetch and follows me around like a dog. He could eat the neighbor’s Chihuahua. Those are mean little dogs. More vicious than pitbulls. Wait, Sybil will now post how Chihuahuas are misunderstood and I should be arrested for maligning them. You always make me laugh, Michael.
I am not exaggerating the dress falling in half situation. It happened so fast I didn’t know what to do or say. At that moment I understood how cat owners say that their cats own them, as she jusy dropped him and changed, didn’t tell him off or anything. On another visit when I was in the lounge room I noticed a newly purchased ‘cat structure’ of some sort. It literally reached the ceiling and he sat there watching me as I waited for my friend to get ready to go out.
Till this day I believe he was planning on how to kill me and hide my body. So evil, and cute!
You make me laugh! He probably was.
I also had a family siamese who liked to be patted hard. I dont want to use the word spanked..
Anyways so I avoided the damn thing like the plague until he jumped onto my lap for some attention and when I stopped giving him his hard pats he decided to bite me and chase me around the house till he cornered me (I was like 6). I hated that damn cat.
WP went just and posted my response above … it starts with poor 6 yr old Michael…grrr to WP
Sybil – you’re clearly insane. You are EXACTLY the kind of the person that would own a pitbull. However, I would like to thank you for your suggestion of “researching” – I really did learn a lot. Pitbulls are even more dangerous than I thought.
Pro’s: Pitbulls don’t have a lock jaw mechanism. They’re just so strong nothing can prevent them from letting up once they chomp down…so I guess that’s a pro?
Con:
“65% – Pit bulls are responsible for 65 percent of all fatal dog attacks nationally.”
“The typical cost of settlements in attacks by pit bulls and Rottweilers causing death or serious injury is an average of a half million dollars. The amount of $29,396 was the average cost of a dog bite case in 2011”
“ANIMAL PEOPLE editor Merritt Clifton has recorded breed-specific data on life-threatening and fatal dog attacks in the U.S. and Canada–during which time pit bulls and pit bull mixes kept as pets have killed 75 people…wolf hybrids have killed 17. All other breeds COMBINED have killed just 60.”
And, finally, as this probably applies to you:
“Owners of dangerous breeds are more than 9 times more likely to have been convicted for a crime than owners of low-risk licensed dogs.”
Normally I would be suspicious of statistics like that, but I completely believe it in this situation. I lived in San Francisco for close to a decade and I never ONCE saw a pitbull at a dog park or walking around my neighborhood. Yet I saw them all the time – they are the number one choice of dog for the gaggles of homeless kids here, and in the tinderloin and mission, all the pseudo gangsters and thugs have pitbulls.
The numbers speak for themselves. Pitbulls are fucking dangerous. Some insane shrieking bitch with a faulted bias isn’t going to change that – you’re just furthering ingraining in my mind the level of crazy associated with these dogs.
BINGO!!!!!!! “And, finally, as this probably applies to you:
“Owners of dangerous breeds are more than 9 times more likely to have been convicted for a crime than owners of low-risk licensed dogs.” Here in New Orleans Pitbulls are also the main choice for homeless too. Odd. And various local gangsters/drug dealers/crackheads. My ex had to shoot 6 while on duty at different times over the last few years. Sad but necessary to save someone’s life.
i’ve lived in San Francisco for 24 yrs & see pit bulls everywhere: in my very nice neighborhood, at dog parks, crissy field, fort funston, ocean beach, dolores park, etc. part of the reason is acc & the spca’s decision to adopt out pit bulls; part are backyard breeders. the only special requirement here for adoption of aggressive breeds is agreement to take a class (in some cases a psych eval might be a good idea), but the spca often lies & tells potential adopters the dogs are lab or shepherd mixes instead of pitbulls or pitbull mixes just to get them adopted. maybe you were here before the spca/shelter reversed policy & started taking them. i started walking my dogs late at night to avoid dealing w unleashed uncontrolled dogs owned by well meaning people who dont know what they’re doing despite their supposedly having taken that class. it’s not fun having to protect my dogs against unprovoked attacks. i dont blame that behavior on the dogs, but it is just too easy to adopt them here, & too many owners dont know what they’re getting into. socialization & proper training take a buttload of work. love alone is just not the answer.
upsetting that some here are blaming the victim. some people do incite a worse attack by not knowing how to react, but the attack should never have happened in the first place. if kim cares about kyle’s kids as much as she says she does, she needs to rehome kingsley responsibly before he ends up killing someone.
Um, holy shit again.
While I was out enjoying THE WORLD. Sybil was here furiously posting copyrighted crap from THE INTERNET and numerous links to places that say pit bulls are just lovely.
I cleaned up most of the mess.
It only takes one over eager lunatic for the comment section to devolve into a giant mess. *eats popcorn*
Can I share your popcorn? I’m out.
IM CALLING THE FBI ON SYBIL RIGHT NOW!!!
Dialing…..
YAY! I’m sending you her IP information now!
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Well I told Sybil I was writing a report! I’m not sure what it’s about but I’m writing that report!!!
Please conference me in on that call…:-)
CAN YOU DIAL?
Just reported you as well Duel in the Sun
Who or what is duel in the sun?
Oops. I got a little delayed. I was having fun kicking puppies. NOW I’m calling the CIA!!! I’m telling them all about Sybil.
Oh God, how I have missed you! I didn’t see you posting much a while back, then I was absent for a bit. Glad to read your hilarious posts again! Much needed comic relief.
Tissue for your nose? *hands moist towlette* 😀
@michael, I don’t know if the tissue is for me, but just to let you know I adore you just as I do Teecee. Ass kisser…. No, I am just obsessed withTT and some of her commenters. A harmless obsession for sure,haha.
I’m only joking that’s why I did the large smiley face! The more people who brown nose TC the larger her ego becomes the more likely she will implode and that leaves me to rule you ALL! 😀
Can I just think Teecee makes the funniest comments but not be called a brown-noser? You’re funny, too, Michael, don’t stress.
You are as by your post still stupid Your comments regarding dogs and pits in general are so inane. People who are dealing with these dogs are changing them . So you can ignore the truth and results all you wish Fear and stupidity are what you are piggybacking on with your idiot comments Call anyone you wish if you can dial and read. And if you have any cognitive skills. You are so dumb
You got me there. I can’t read.
So, TT, we have had some amazing times with you on your blog, but Sybil is something of a first. The FBI??? If I were she, I would steer clear of them. God said we would have dominion over all of the animals and some need more “dominion” than others; pit bulls fall into that category. All of the druggies in my little town have them. They parade them up and down the streets with chains for leashes. Strange, I rarely see them with an adult dog. I don’t think they live that long. There is no reason to believe that a dangerous dog, and that is how home insurers classify pit bulls, should be favored over a human being.
I came here to read about ditzy Kim and find quite the read. Where is Jodi Arias when you need her?
I think the FBI probably already has Sybil and her tin foil beanie on their radar.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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so the question is, which one is higher on the fbi’s watch list: sybil or teecee?
Perhaps your comment is confusing me with your relatives? and or relative. sad little mind
You going to to taket, TT?
I would like to award Kim Richards, and subsequentially Sybil (last name retracted due to pending CIA investigation) for the “more you know” award of 2014. Their crass determination has prompted thousands of potential victims to arm themselves with knowledge. I have exclusive information from the Bravo rumor mill that Raza will no longer be The More You Know foundation’s Bravo representative, and will instead be replaced by Kim Richards and Sybil – the future campaigns to focus on how Pitbulls will kill us all.
But reallly, I also read some interesting material on two seperate attempts to rebrand pitbulls into “St. Francis Terriors” and “New Yorkies.” The latter lasted three days and the SPCA’s St. Francis plan was “reluctantly suspended” after the dogs that went through “extensive screening and training” started to kill again. Very cool stuff.
Kim does not have the proper type of personality to assert her as pack leader and because of that, there will continue to be issues with the dog. I think that the dog had been a rescue animal and sometimes you do not always know the dog’s history by its previous owners. If she did get the dog through a rescue organization, then they did a lousy job of vetting her. She is just not mentally or physically strong enough to take on such a task. I hope that she re homes him.
As a person with a scar on my face from being bitten as a child, I find Sybil’s rants quite amusing. In whatever language that is she is attempting to communicate in.
TCee should be put down for taunting her. So cruel. Tsk
This is one of the rare moments when I hope TC keeps going. Poke the bear TC!
Do shut the fuck up. I am not your puppet.
I’ll keep pulling the strings round here bitch! 🙂
The only string you pull is in your tampon, halfman.
Sounds like someone is jealous they hit menopause. 😀
What does that even mean? It makes no sense.
Shouldn’t you still be on the phone to the FBI or something?
I’m going to need this to continue for the next hour and a half or so. I think the premier of RHOA is going to take a while to recap, with my facial recognition problems and two new girls. I have no idea which is who in any of the Instagrams. 🙂
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Rants did you look up the word before using it? perhaps not. My goodness such ignore back up by stupidity on this subject. I could not possibly take issue with ignorant folks but hey I will respond because to allow your ignorant spewing of misinformation to continue Must be meet with concrete evidence and then people can do their own investigations
All those who work with dogs who fight and have anxiety issues have confirmed that they can be retrained.
All of them?? Every single one of them have confirmed it? I don’t really think you’ve talked to ALL of them. I think you are lying.
I’M REPORTING YOU TO THE FCC RIGHT NOW!!!
call them speech has to be slanderous and or libelous neither of which is is on this blog! mazol BTW Peta is in your corner s perhaps you need to join there organization
Why would I call them speech? Sometimes you don’t make sense.
Rant speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way
Is this post a breakthrough about your manic behavior here the last couple of days? Are you about to swing back into a depression where you are too sad to mash the keypad? God I hope not. You’re awesome for ratings. Pop a diet pill or something, I need you manic at least until RHOA post is up tonight.
Thanks in advance. You’re are real trooper. A dedicated fan indeed.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Are your parents, by chance, related to each other
How stupid and childish back at you then!
I don’t know about any of you all, but questioning parentage was not part of my repertoire as a child. That would be impressive. I mostly stuck with jackass and doodyhead.
Are those your parents ?
No. Those are my brothers. You are not very bright, are you? That was rhetorical.
Dogs have owners, cats have staff.
Dogs have owners; cats have staff.
Oh my goodness…I so agree! If my cats (back in the day when I had cats) didn’t need me to buy the food, change the litter box, and pay the rent on their, oops, my apartment, I don’t think I would of been allowed out of my crate! 🙂
Speaking of cats, what happened to Cat the commenter? I really miss seeing her post on here. She went from a seemingly sweet lady to an outspoken “fuck you”,”cunt satchel” user of expletives commenter. The transformation was hysterical. I wonder why she never posts anymore, hope everything is OK with her.
Cat is having some technical difficulties. Hopefully they will work themselves out soon. Meanwhile, she posted from the library the other day and should be back soon!
Thanks for the update. I was a little concerned when I noticed her absence. I also was wondering if she was a causality from a “posting war” such as the one going on now, glad to know that isn’t the case!
Haha….just saw meredo’s comment about me. I love it!
Apparently while I was cleaning (on lunch break now) Sybil was furiously posting more links than a Chinese Reebok outlet.
Somebody needs to read the commenting rules, and find a new shrink. Not in that order.
Like wise I am sure…
Holy cow! I think craziness went to a whole different level! I just couldn’t stop reading! Thanks TT!
I’m new to this blog, but have to say the battling on this post has been riotously entertaining – thanks to all, and keep up the vicious insults and threats! I’ll be back with wine and popcorn …
Ah… you’re going to fit in quite nicely, Queenie. You may have found your people. 🙂
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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WP won’t let me post 🙁
Poor little 6 year old Michael! To adult Michael – OMG I almost fell off the couch laughing picturing that scene! Our family had two Siamese cats when I was 9. They would entertain themselves by fishing in my brothers aquarium or playing floor hockey with my dime store pet turtle when we were at school! I can’t tell you how many turtles I went through until my Mom told me no more.
Siamese cats can be so evil. They are way too smart for their own good, and that of their owners. I want a ragdoll, they are uber cute and meant to be docile. I could never recommend anything from the siamese family.
[Insert personal childhood and/or local news story here re: pit bull mauling child.]
I can relate to this situation. I had a basset hound for 13 years and I fell on him years ago, resulting in me getting bitten. It was an accident, and it happened to me, so my dog stayed. Then last year, my dog, now years older, and suffering from some health issues, was quite skiddish, and he bit my husband pretty badly. I had to make the very hard decision to have my dog leave our home.
It was my husband, and I love him so much. He wasn’t forcing me to not bring my dog back home, he actually said the dog could come back, but I knew it wasn’t a good idea for our relationship, and our safety. My dog was not put to sleep, but taken my a kind person who rescues elderly dogs. He passed away shortly after from his health problems.
I know how hard this is, but Kim should be putting her family first. I know she loves her dog, but it seems like she has been putting her dog before her family, and not looking at the big picture.
Hahahahhaha! I hadn’t previously read this post, but talk about a doozie! I can almost see the foam coming from the rabid Sybil’s mouth while she was furiously posting! Great, just great 🙂
you are one stupid sick person sad that you have to place my name in anything but I am so not offended.. There is nothing wrong with the dog that rehabilitation from a real trainer could not rectify. Best Friends and or Cesar. You, on the other hand are just a real sad piece of work. You cannot be rehabbed you need medical help… deleting you now Thought I had already, now you are what a sad sad person you are got angst? bye ta
Oh NO, what ever will I do now that you’ve deleted me? I guess ill join the ranks of all the other “stupid” people who find you more amusing than educating.
Yeah …. this one was hilarious. It may have been the first time I posted here. 🙂 I wonder if Sybil’s tirade was BEFORE we saw the pictures of that poor 80-year old close friend with those horrible injuries from Kingsley — including a large bite hole so deep in her hand you could see her bone!! I hope she gets every dollar she’s suing — I suspect this lawsuit was another reason for Kim’s escape to rehab.
I love that Sybil is deleting commenters in her mind. That’s a cool Jedi trick.
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Ha! Yeah …. I was going to ask you how she could possibly delete someone (or even weirder, how she thought she already had) but I forgot to factor in Star Wars mind control. Maybe you need to start a “tinfoil beanies” section next to the window lickers. 🙂
Hahaaaa…I had missed the fun when it first took place. So glad someone revived it. I had a great time reading all the comments. I can’t believe Sybil is STILL ranting!
Sybil, dah-ling. You are completely insane. And amusing.
I would love to see you shipped off to China, to be a super hero for dogs there. I hear they really like to wok their dogs.
Sybil is aptly named.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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why is everyone ragging on sybil? she is right in the fact that it is the owners, not the dog.