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WWHL With Caroline Manzo: AKA RHONJ Part 1.5

November 3, 2014 by tamaratattles 62 Comments

WWHL CarolineFirst of all, who is this chick and why is she in Caroline’s chair? I hate the new “rule” (that is very flexible) about first time visitors sitting in the first chair. And yes, I know who she is, she needs to move out of that chair.

Andy brings up Gia’s girl group and they talk about whether it is in appropriate. Michelle doesn’t want to say and Caroline says it’s right at the cusp. We’ve been talking about it here A LOT with weave pulling and trash talking amongst ourselves.  Again, the fact that the argument is about whether or not it is in appropriate means it is in appropriate. But that is so two days ago.  Ain’t nobody got time for that right now, Andrew. It’s only a thirty minute show. Let’s get to the reunion!

Andy is basically making Caroline respond to the reunion as if she was on it. Caroline’s response is “awesome thanks!” He says Tre said some weird stuff tonight. He rolls a clip of Tre saying doesn’t miss Jac and also claiming in six season she has never hit anyone below the belt. Caroline says of course she hit below the belt. We all hit below the belt. Just admit that you hit below the belt. We saw it, there is no denying what we see. Sidenote: Michelle has no idea what is going on and for the rest of the show Caroline and Andy will probably talk over her as if she is not even there which is why, if she has to be there at all, she should not be in the first chair. No offense to Michelle but it’s not a good night for her to get any attention. This was a booking blunder.

Tweeting again?
Tweeting again?

With regard to Jac she says that Tre is really trying to project that she doesn’t care, but she really does care. She gets emotional when she reads the text, she gets teary-eyed. She cares, she just doesn’t want to say it.

Caroline says that it is true that she didn’t invite Dina to the engagement party, and for good reason. Caroline says she is embarrassed and mortified that she has to say this and Andy knows that she has come at him hard for asking questions about the family but she feels she has to respond. Caroline says that over the past four or five years, Dina has never attended any family function at all. The have nieces and nephews up to five years old that she doesn’t know.  She didn’t go to her brother Jaime’s wedding. She didn’t go to any baby birthings, graduations, baptisms, holidays. Not just with regard to her and Chris but along the line. So to single out Lauren’s engagement party was unfair. Caroline says that the very first person Lauren called within ten minutes of being engaged was Lexi. Lexi said, “I’m so happy! My mom says congratulations.” That was in April and since then not a word.

ManzoAndy said that Dina made it seem like she is open to reconciliation with Caroline. He mentions the cooking show. Caroline says no, she’s a package deal she comes with everyone.  Well you know what, Caroline, you are my favorite housewife but if Jacqueline is part of that package you are dead wrong. You can have a relationship with your sister outside of the relationship you have with an in-law. She’s blood. What happened to “we’re thick as thieves?”  Caroline goes on to imply that Dina wants to reconcile only if she cuts Jac out of her life. That’s wrong too. Caroline should be willing to reconcile with her sister regardless of the Jacqueline relationship. But I could understand Dina not wanting to reconcile with Caroline with her palling around with Jac and doing a TV show with her. I get Dina’s POV in this situation much better. Hopefully, Caroline will still have many years of health long after Jaqueline is out of the picture.  At least I hope so for the sake of their sisterhood. But Caroline saying that she will only reconcile with Dina if Dina reconciles with Jac is unfair.

Caroline says the Chris was given the same ultimatum, it is Dina or Jac.  Essentially Dina will not reconcile with Chris unless he divorces his wife.  That’s wrong too. Caroline is appalled that Dina would say Chris needs to leave his wife and child in order to mend the relationship. The same little boy she walked past two week ago like she didn’t know him. Caroline says, “I don’t understand how she can walk past that boy without picking him up and hugging him and telling him she loves him. I don’t understand that. So I have to say I don’t want the cooking show. Okay? I don’t care about TV. I don’t care what the papers say. I want my family back. I have done everything in my power to make that happen and so have the rest of us. Dina needs to grow up. ”  On Twitter tonight Dina claims she did not see Nick at the wedding. Whose wedding I wonder? Dina also says that she spends every holiday with her family just not that faction. Apparently, the 11 kids are divided into two groups and the parents seem to be on Team Dina. Sad. But not that unusual.

Finally, on to Manzo’d With Children, which I am not caught up on yet. Andy is obsessed with Caroline shaving her face. Lots of people do that. It does work but I would think you could never stop.

They show a sneak peek of a fight between Apollo and Phaedra where Apollo says that he has never brought any grief to her.  These people (the FBI) haven’t tried to take her job, come after her house, or tried to take her money or affected her in any way. She replies, “But what about the public shame?” and Apollo says that is all Phaedra cares about is what other people think about her.  He tells her he wants a divorce and wants to go his own way. Phaedra says if that is what he wants, “bon voyage.” While they were arguing Dylan was right in between them standing on the pool table eating pool balls and the nanny was in the room so that means Ayden was likely right there somewhere too.  In other news, the divorce diet is working wonders for Phaedra. She looks better than I’ve ever seen her in the face. As soon as I typed that the fishnet shot from the Puerto Rico trip popped into my brain.

Andy must be so excited to have a felon to discuss on two reunions in a row.

Questions for Caroline:

At what age where your kids allowed to start speaking to you the way that they do, with the cursing?  She says about a year ago. She says her kids were always allowed to swear in the house. She taught them when to turn it on (it’s fine at home) and when to turn it off (but not in public.)  Caroline says that they have a very good relationship but there is a definitive line where they are Mom and Dad and if they ever cross that line they know there is a problem.

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  1. Micheal says

    November 3, 2014 at 1:10 am

    I hope Dina, Caroline and Chris reconcile. They all probably are to blame for the family fallout but right now it sounds as if Jacq is the reason why they all can’t come together. I remember her tweet recently wich was (paraphrasing) ‘Dina and Chris can reconcile whenever…/w me’. It was a weird veiled threat. Kind of reminding Dina she has to go through Jacq first before she and the rest can be a tight family again.

    I remember Caroline giving advice to Tre and Melissa on how to just squash the family fighting a season or so ago. It’s time that she probably takes her own advice.

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  2. MarsMc says

    November 3, 2014 at 1:21 am

    Jac’s tweet makes a lot more sense now that we know Dina was laying down an ultimatum to Chris. Way to think of your little nephews, Dina.
    Also, the comments Dina made at the reunion about Nic’s health issue being somehow less important because “he’s not hooked up to machines” and how she’s more concerned about her kid “who can understand” the family issues really irked me. I didn’t like Dina before but now I think she’s complete trash.

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  3. Anna moh says

    November 3, 2014 at 1:40 am

    Honestly it seems like Jaq is at the root of the problem. I don’t understand why Caroline can’t have a relationship with Her sis outside of Jaq? It all seems petty and shady to me, I don’t like how they are using nick as a pawn to get at dina it’s sick and twisted using him as a guilt trip. Honestly, I can see how chris and dina may never reconcile but Caroline and dina have no excuse. How are you letting your sis in law get between real blood.

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    • Micheal says

      November 3, 2014 at 3:09 am

      I agree 100%. Time to focus on what is important and move on from pettiness. Jacq needs to get off Twitter.

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      • Merilyn Zallan Ulrich says

        November 3, 2014 at 10:02 am

        Something is seriously wrong with Jacqueline. How much love does she have for her husband if he can’t have a relationship with his blood sister without her being in the middle of it? Dina’s not some random person…she’s Chris’s sister. If I were Chris I’d tell Jacqueline that this is his family and that he will mend the relationships with or without her and that she needs to stay out of it and keep her nasty daughter out of it. I doubt that will ever happen because Chris appears to be totally whipped.
        As for Caroline not being able to be close to Dina without “the total package (Jac)”…that’s B.S. There is obviously more to it than that if the family is cut into two factions. This is much deeper than one issue or one person.
        Caroline comes across as a total hypocrite.

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    • Josie says

      November 3, 2014 at 10:17 am

      Poor Nick, he is being used as a pawn for everyone. He is the excuse for going broke. He has been used by Jac to bash Dina on twitter and now Caroline is saying Dina wants Chris to leave his autistic son. Sigh…..yes, Jac is always at the root of all problems.

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      • Anna moh says

        November 3, 2014 at 2:54 pm

        I agree completely shame on Jaq and shame on bravo.

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  4. Tasos826 says

    November 3, 2014 at 1:48 am

    You can have a relationship with your sister outside of the relationship you have with an in-law. She’s blood. What happened to “we’re thick as thieves?”

    Dina is so noble about not involving chirens, but who would suffer from the divorce she demands of Chris? (#Bitchisalyingcrazedhypocrite)

    So, to address your concern, “We’re thick as thieves” is alive and well, and has been upheld by our girl Caroline wisely, fairly, logically and honorably, at least until, if ever, Chris and Jac divorce, which I believe is highly unlikely in light of Nicky’s needs. Like Chris or not (I do), he is as loyal as a dog to family and his friends, and Chris also is a very thoughtful, solid guy; not emotionless, just pretty well adjusted. Over all of the years, I cannot honestly recollect him as much as raise his voice as others around him were literally losing their freaking minds… solid… and that’s something considering his lovely wife and stepdaughter. He also has been a very good uncle to Caroline’s chiren’s, even their friend, ???, who moved away and lives in San Fran.

    There were times that Chris arguably (Well, in his place I’d have been very tempted.) could have helped the two of them to ‘go away’ for a nice rest and a variety of therapy sessions at a securely locked facility… especially Ashley when was using and partying (and I think that I recall that Ash was expressing suicidal ideations).

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  5. Psylocke says

    November 3, 2014 at 2:18 am

    Beyonce’s coattail reserved that first seat for her regardless of the rule.

    This is actually really funny because someone in the video post said Gia got the Michelle treatment by not being heavily featured.

    But all joking aside Michelle was always my favorite – I love her voice and sympathize with her ridiculously short verses and all the flack she gets like #poormichelle …and my first sentence.

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    • Angel(?) says

      November 3, 2014 at 8:18 am

      I’m kinda looking forward to watching her new show “Fix My Choir”.

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      • Mina says

        November 3, 2014 at 10:26 am

        She is really is a big star in the gospel genre. It doesn’t really translate to WWHL, but she is.

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    • Microop says

      November 4, 2014 at 4:15 pm

      All three of them have been incredibly successful after destinys child which is rare when a group parts. I think they will do another album and tour eventually.

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      • Psylocke says

        November 5, 2014 at 2:49 am

        That Super Bowl show was super disappointing.

        Hey let’s promote this ‘secret’ DC reunion and then have them sing 20 seconds of Single Ladies before Beyonce LITERALLY shoos them off the stage with dance hands.

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  6. Brianna says

    November 3, 2014 at 6:29 am

    Tasos826, jacq.. Is that you!? Lol

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    • Micheal says

      November 3, 2014 at 6:31 am

      It’s funny when they come here to comment under random names.

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      • Tasos826 says

        November 3, 2014 at 11:08 pm

        It was very amusing when you, your pal go Secret Squirrel, sniff and claim that random people actually are celebs posting unflattering things about themselves and a child of their’s on the down low. Sure! Jac would claim that she could/should be committed, if necessary? Arightie then!!! Keep dreaming!

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  7. DJ says

    November 3, 2014 at 6:39 am

    Well, this is totally what Caroline did not want. Andy was not allowing their family dissension to not play out on tv.

    I truly feel for Caroline and Dina. Caroline must be non too happy that Jaqueline is returning next season to air this out on TV. Jaqueline IS the problem.

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  8. Josie says

    November 3, 2014 at 6:39 am

    Aww…so dissapointed in Caroline who was always a favorite of mine. Why force your sister Dina to have a relationship with someone who is constantly bashing her on twitter. Why cant you meet for coffee without her and everyone is cordial at family functions?? That is what Dina is asking for. Geez, Caroline seemed so furious tonight about defending her fambly from big bad Dina. What did she say that was so bad at the reunion? Jac may have really riled her up. Otherwise, why the fury. One thing is for sure. Parents know their children. The fact that their parents agree with Dina says a lot. They probably rue the day that Chris came home with a pregnant Jac.

    I was looking thru the TT archives because bloggers seem to act like it is a fact that Jac was telling stories about how Dina was stealing from project ladybug. IT WAS PROVEN FALSE. However, did TT ever report this as being true?? Dont believe much until I read it here!

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    • Angel(?) says

      November 3, 2014 at 8:23 am

      Ok, I missed something. . . Did someone say Mamma and Pappa Laurita had taken a side?

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      • Josie says

        November 3, 2014 at 10:00 am

        In TT’s recap above she says that it appears that the parents are on Dina’s side.

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        • tamaratattles says

          November 3, 2014 at 3:52 pm

          ​I think I might have been wrong about that. They do spend a lot of time with Dina but I don’t think they are estranged from the other faction. 🙂

          On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

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      • Angel(?) says

        November 3, 2014 at 12:13 pm

        Ok, Dina either said or implied that the parents are on her side. I won’t believe it until either both sides say it’s true or the parents say it for themselves. This whole disagreement, I think, has spiraled way out of control. Somehow, if we ever find out what truly started it, it’s going to be “much ado about nothing” (Shakespeare).

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  9. amtraveler says

    November 3, 2014 at 7:31 am

    There is no reason to feel bad. Michelle Williams is used to being the least relevant person in the room 😉 (couldn’t resist!!)

    I am shamefully curious about ALL of the Laurita family drama – especially this split amongst the siblings. Is this an indication that I have hit bottom?

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    • Anna moh says

      November 3, 2014 at 2:59 pm

      I’m not sure how deep the rift is but I see Dina parents and older siblings on her instagram

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  10. Lady Chatterley says

    November 3, 2014 at 8:19 am

    So, Dina expects Caroline to cut Jacqueline out of her life or no relationship. Sounds like the shit that Teresa was pulling with Caroline and Jacqueline when Melissa first came on the show. I can see why Teresa and Dina consider each other good allies – they are both still jr high mean girls. Dina needs to grow up.

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    • Tasos826 says

      November 3, 2014 at 11:21 pm

      Caroline even stated that Dina expected Chris to dump Jac … this from Dina, who can’t get enough nerve up to dump HER husband, who has reportedly cheated on her even before they wed, and he supposedly hasn’t ceased since then.

      Dina needs to concern herself with keeping her own house in order before interfering with her brother’s marriage. How kind of her to punish Chris for what his nutty wife Jac did. Some sister Dina is.

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  11. MK (@okmegk1) says

    November 3, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Totally agree – I love my in-laws, thankfully, but if it was ever a decision between my blood sister and my sister-in-law, your real family takes precedence. It is so unfair of Caroline to force Dina to reconcile with Jacqueline in order to mend their own relationship, especially when Jac is all over the place bashing her for YEARS and God knows what has gone on behind the scenes. Hasn’t it ever occurred to Caroline or Chris that maybe once they fix their own relationship with their sister, it may be easier to talk both Dina and Jacqueline down? Baby steps, people! Ultimatums rarely work.

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    • tamaratattles says

      November 3, 2014 at 9:40 am

      ​Well to be fair, Dina is giving the ultimatum of Jac or her. However, Caroline is also saying make up with Jac or don’t makeup with her. Both are wrong. Jac should be taken out of the equation entirety between the sisters. As far as Chris goes where that would not be possible, I think Dina is justified in just staying away.

      On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

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      • Josie says

        November 3, 2014 at 10:11 am

        I had thought that Dina wanted a relationship with her siblings apart from Jacquline which didnt seem unreasonable to me. Good ole Jac is smack in the middle as usual.

        Any idea on whether it was Jac behind the lies about project ladybug? Someone accused Jac on twitter. She responded it was Danielle then deleted the tweet. Someone tweeted Danielle and she said it wasnt her. She was also asked the cause of the rift and said it was project ladybug and not Da Book.

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      • MK (@okmegk1) says

        November 3, 2014 at 11:58 am

        Yeah yeah, you’re right as usual. Telling someone to divorce their wife and mother of their two children if they want to reconcile with you is fucked up, too. You can tell they are related – they are all very very stubborn.

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      • Tasos826 says

        November 3, 2014 at 11:30 pm

        I have a feeling that Caroline may be making impossible demands of Dina to ideally give Dina some insight about her demand/expectation of their brother, Chris. Caroline may be trying to ‘out-regress’ Dina … or show Dina up by adopting/manifesting Dina’s craziness, and then some.

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    • Eve says

      November 3, 2014 at 12:48 pm

      But, what does it say about someone who insists they cut their wife out of the relationship? To me, it says Dina is being selfish, mean and totally out of line.
      As for Caroline, Dina can have a relationship, but she she shouldnt keep putting these demands on how it can happen.
      So, i agree with Caroline that Dina needs to grow up. She is an immature spoiled brat.
      As for her parents supposedly siding with Dina, Tre’s parents sided with her, so seems they are siding with the wrong folks. They actually shouldnt be siding with anyone, but ALL of these people are ignorant and stupid.
      All in all, history has taught us that maaaaaaybe one family out of each housewife show are actually living a real wealthy lifestyle. The rest are one by one coming out as criminals, grifters, con artists, delusional, and the list goes on and on.
      Look what they do to each other and the outcomes.
      And the worse it gets, the happier and richer Bravo and Andy Cohen become.

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    • Sarah says

      November 3, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      I got the impression Dina refuses to have anything to do with Caroline as long as she has any type of relationship with Jacqueline. I didn’t hear where Caroline wants them to reconcile. I’ll have to catch it again, next time around. Plain & simple, I think Caroline is pissed because Dina wants her brother to divorce his wife.

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      • Tasos826 says

        November 3, 2014 at 11:35 pm

        That’s what I got…Dina demanding Chris to divorce. I believe that Caroline may have even said about Dina’s demand, “It’s Jacq or me.” Yeah
        I think she said it on WWHL.

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  12. Josie says

    November 3, 2014 at 10:20 am

    I dont understand why Dina said she was happy when her brother called to meet with her if she was holding out for divorce. She knew Jac was still in the picture…it doesnt make sense…

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    • swizzle says

      November 3, 2014 at 12:57 pm

      I truly don’t think Dina was demanding a divorce. She was just saying I’ll have a relationship with my brother, but not his wife. In my book, that’s OK. It’s even more than OK when your SIL is a loon who can’t stay off Twitter. As long as Jac is in the picture, Dina is smart to keep her distance to those who are close to her. Anything Dina says or does will get back to Jac and Jac will tweet it or sell the story to Radar Online. Poor Chris is trapped with Jac. He can’t leave her and risk her having even one minute of unsupervised custody of those children. Caroline…I can’t figure out her allegiance to Jac. Maybe Jac has some dirt on Caroline’s family and she’s protecting a secret. Why else would someone who is all family side with a mentally ill SIL who attacks your own sister?

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      • dj j says

        November 3, 2014 at 5:15 pm

        ding ding ding!! I think you nailed it. Caroline is the type who keeps their enemies close. Because all you have to do is piss Jac off and all bets are off. She has no problem reporting Dina to the IRS, any secret will be exposed. Teresa is smart to stay away from her. And for Jac to act like she doesn’t understand why just shows how delusional she is

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  13. Derrick says

    November 3, 2014 at 11:05 am

    I really do hope Caroline, Chris, Dina, and to some extent Jacqueline can get to some kind of resolution. I mean, they’re family and this honestly should have been put to bed a long time ago.

    I think Caroline’s point regarding her being a package deal was more along the lines of Dina demanding that Chris leave his wife in order to have a relationship with her. Caroline was saying that if she were to renew her relationship with Dina, she’d basically end up having to cut 2 people out of her life who haven’t done anything to her. I think she just wants things mended for everybody.

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  14. kmh11478 says

    November 3, 2014 at 11:35 am

    I spend too much time following these people on instagram so I know that the wedding 2 weeks ago was for Carolines’ s nephew. Jac & Carolines kids were in the wedding party. Dina posted a pic from the reception with her parents. Nic was in the wedding too so Dina saying she didn’t see him is bs. Also Jac made a comment about how Dina forces her parents to split their time during the holidays because she won’t get together with everyone else so I don’t think Caroline & Chris are estranged from their parents

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    • tamaratattles says

      November 3, 2014 at 3:35 pm

      I love Caroline, but if this is true, it sort of blows Caroline’s speil on WWHL last night about how Dina hasn’t been to any family occasions in five years. Yes?

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      • swizzle says

        November 3, 2014 at 3:53 pm

        It’s true, and yes, blows Caroline’s accusation out of the water. Now someone use their best Nancy Drew skills and try to find out what Jac is using to blackmail Caroline. She has to have something on her, right? Caroline is not dumb and why else would she said with that loon over her own sister? Maybe Caroline’s just mean. After all, she did say everyone hits below the belt, which is not true. Good, intelligent people do not hit below the belt.

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      • katghank says

        November 3, 2014 at 6:32 pm

        Btw TT, Dina has a video blog on her website where she confirms your report that Jac taped all of her scenes after they had wrapped

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      • Micheal says

        November 3, 2014 at 11:54 pm

        Haha TT is always right!! Dina may be a fan. 😉

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  15. breelee says

    November 3, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    If the in-laws are siding with Dina, that doesn’t impress me much. Nor does that tell me which side is in the right. Dina’s the baby, right? Parents pick favorites, and sometimes appear to pick the most needy child or the one that fills their ear the most. Weren’t Teresa’s parents on her side against brother Joe?

    After what Dina said about HER daughter and dismissed little Nick, she showed what a selfish twit she is. Lexi is old enough to understand families fight, Nick needs all the love and support a family can give.

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    • MK (@okmegk1) says

      November 3, 2014 at 1:11 pm

      What did Dina say about Lexi that was wrong? Must have missed it. And on Twitter, Dina is saying that she didn’t mean anything by the “she feels more sorry for the ones that understand” comment except age – ie: the Manzo kids and Lexi are old enough to understand the fighting and it’s hurting them, whereas Nick is too little to get it or care. I sincerely don’t think she meant anything about his autism, mostly because I doubt she’d be that stupid to give Jac the ammunition that she is talking negatively about her autistic child. But Jac will jump on anything and spin it regardless, so she should’ve just kept her mouth shut about him in general.

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  16. Yolanda Walls Leftridge says

    November 3, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    I believe Dina is the baby of the family and acts like it too. Her demand for Chris to leave his wife and kids before any reconciliation is absurd. Her comment about “Lexi being the important person in this equation further shows how selfish she is. To hear that she walked pass Nick and didn’t acknowledge him is just sad. She’s beginning to look as selfish as Tre it’s no wonder they’re friends.

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    • Sarah says

      November 3, 2014 at 4:17 pm

      It’s sad that Dina says she loves her brother but has no concern for his happiness. I don’t have to like my brother’s wives — I don’t live with them or pay their bills. They’re no concern to me. All that matters is if they make my brothers happy & are good mothers to my nieces/nephews.

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  17. Loveme says

    November 3, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    ADMIN EDIT: PLEASE READ THE COMMENTING RULES

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  18. Sarah says

    November 3, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Having always heard that shaving makes the hair grow in thicker I’d be afraid to be 60yrs old & need to join the circus as the bearded lady.☺

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  19. J.D. (@JaMailMail) says

    November 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Sorry, but Caroline and Jac simply aren’t trustworthy. I don’t believe for a second that Dina told Chris that he had to divorce in order for them to have a relationship. We KNOW Jac is the most psycho housewife from RHONJ. She has terrorized Danielle, Teresa and Dina to no end. While the former two obviously gave just as good as they got, Dina doesn’t deserve this.

    I find Jac to be utterly vile, and shame on Caroline for not sticking up for her sister. Whatever happened to blood being “as thick as thieves”? Puh-lease.

    I’m glad Dina hangs out with the better “clique” in her family. I wouldn’t want to be around Caroline and Jac’s gang either.

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    • Micheal says

      November 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm

      Just a quick gander at Jacq’s Twitter should evidence why Dina doesn’t want to have a relationship with her. What I find interesting is that Ashlee has gotten involved and spoke negatively about Dina whilst Dina’s daughter to my knowledge has avoided it all. That is also pretty telling as to who is the issue in this family divided.

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      • J.D. (@JaMailMail) says

        November 3, 2014 at 9:09 pm

        Thank you, Michael! I don’t have to tell you how crazy Jac is. She does a great job all by herself. I feel so bad for Dina, but she’s handling this the right way.

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      • Brianna says

        November 3, 2014 at 10:38 pm

        I agree with you all! I’m #teamdina. She’s always the peacemaker. I wonder what Jacq said/did to push Dina over the edge. I also don’t see her saying Chris has to divorce his wife. She hasn’t even wanted to get a divorce her damn self lol. IF she did say that then she must really feel that jacq is a psychopath and she’s trying to help her brother. I can see jacq being super jealous of Dina because she’s naturqlly pretty and has a lot of charm. Since jacq was a young mom she seems to still act like she is stuck in a young/high school mindset when it comes to other women.

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      • Tasos826 says

        November 3, 2014 at 11:48 pm

        Dina’s daughter, Lexi, is sane, rational, intelligent, and respectful … mature beyond years … whereas Ashlee is Mayor, and PD & FD Commander of Flip City … in her own world.

        Something about Ash isn’t right … Actually she’s quite like her mommy.

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  20. terry macon says

    November 3, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    Dina should shut up and clean that junky house, and stop bathing the dogs in the kitchen sink. Her husband seem friendly and out going, but dina is such a square. Dina always throws a rock and hide her hand. Heck she threw theresa under the bus with the twins. We all know jacqueline is a retard.

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    • delaney says

      November 3, 2014 at 8:57 pm

      Agree. Dinaalso needs to get a rral job, her own home, buy her own shoes and stop having others support her. First it was Caroline then Tommy. Absolutely the most immature way for a woman her age to live. A really awful example for her daughter. Dina has no credibility. None. Nada. Zip. Maybe she’ll grow up some day and figure out she can’t always get what she wants.

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      • J.D. (@JaMailMail) says

        November 3, 2014 at 9:08 pm

        None of the things you said takes away her credibility. It also has nothing to do with why her relationships are strained. Truth of the matter is Caroline and Jac are on the bottom of the totem pole in their family FOR A REASON.

        They’re desperately trying to make it seem like Dina is an outcast, but how many other members of the family was at Jaime’s wedding?? The didn’t come because of Caroline and Jac!

        Dina didn’t throw Teresa under the bus. She disagreed with how Teresa handled a situation and confronted her about it. That’s call maturity. She is the most loyal friend Teresa has.

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    • Sarah says

      November 3, 2014 at 9:02 pm

      What do you have against HomeGoods warehouses? ☺

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  21. MemoryMarie says

    November 4, 2014 at 3:32 am

    Unfortunately I do believe Caroline when she said that Chris had to leave Jacqueline to have a relationship with Dina. On Seasons 1 & 2 it was originally primarily Dina who had the problem with Danielle. And because Dina didn’t like her, Dina felt the other women should not have anything to do with Danielle either. It was the main story line. And when Jacqueline & others didn’t drop their friendships with Danielle just because that was what Dina wanted she set out to ruin Danielle in their community.

    I can’t stand Danielle & Dina had very legit reasons for not liking her. But regardless Dina did demand everyone to stop being her friend.

    So I absolutely do believe that Dina gave ultimatums to Chris & Caroline, because she has done it before. So when Caroline said she was a “package deal” I think she meant that if Dina wants to reconcile they can but she isn’t going to cut people out of her life to do so, she isn’t going to change to make Dina happy & reconcile, hence Dina needs to accept Caroline as she is, the whole package. I do not think Caroline is saying Dina has to reconcile with Jacqueline first, just that Dina can’t force her to choose.

    Also, I strongly feel Dina showed her true, nasty self many times during the reunion.

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  22. Dietrich Buxtehude says

    November 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Unless you’ve been involved in an on-going dispute with a sibling, you need to take several seats and refrain from positing opinions based on … Nothing. Believe it or not, it is possible for a sibling to do something that cannot be forgiven or forgotten. I didn’t believe that this could ever happen in my family until it did! Because you share blood with someone is no reason to tolerate disrespect and outright contempt When you’ve spent a lifetime tolerating endless bullshit, you have to call it a day for the sake of your mental health .

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  23. loriflack says

    November 4, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    AMEN to that!

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    • joker says

      November 5, 2014 at 12:37 am

      I just find jaq to be a mean ass bitch who will do anything to be the victim. I don’t think she’s mentally stable at all and feel terrible for Chris.
      Jaq had a real hatred of her daughter and I think she was jealous of her youth. I remember watching an episode where Chris let Ashley move back home and Jaq was seething, referred to Ashley as the princess getting to move back in the castle.
      I think she’s one of those women that get bitter as the age and hate any woman younger and or better looking. Dina, her daughter Ashley etc. On Manzo w/chirren she blasted Albie’s gf Brittany referring to her as Daisy dukes is coming. Add to that her drinking problems, her eating problems, her ridiculous overuse of botox and her lack of a job/ boredom and you have evil woman. Always had nannies, always had/has help still with autistic son. I think she’s realized Nick is always going to be dependent and for the rest of her life that’s going to be her job. No more partying trips with the girls, no more expensive shopping trips and no more luxury spa visits and cosmetic fix her ups. Moneys tight and it has to go for Nick and not fillers or botox or expensive wines. For someone who always seemed to think she was the hot little Vegas number her future is looking bleak and miserable and she’s going to make sure everyone shares in that misery.
      Poor Chris is scared to death of divorcing her became we all know Jaq saves all the info/texts of where the bodies are buried. Cross her and the wrath is psychotic. Caroline knows this as does everyone else.

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