Andy goes straight to Teresa Giudice and asks if she is doing any better and getting any sleep. She says no, she says that yesterday was Gabriella’s birthday so they had a party at a sports place and it was so sad because Milania said she wants to have her next party there and her birthday is in February and she doesn’t know if she is going to be there. Okay, dumbass, her you are on TV again talking about big birthday parties now that sentencing is over. I don’t care if the whole thing cost $100. YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO HAVE PARTIES. The Feds really need to go in and find the stacks of cash those two are hiding. Dayum.
Andy surveys the other ladies on their feelings. Dina chokes up and says it is surreal to her. There are murderers on the streets and she’s such a good girl. My god these people are in denial. She is a good girl who was charged with FORTY ONE FEDERAL OFFENSES FOR FRAUD. She’s a good girl who continues to this day to lie to the court! Why is it that people think that “well I didn’t kill anybody” means they are not doing anything wrong.
Andy asks if Melissa has seen her since her sentencing. FYI this show was filmed four days after the sentencing. Nope. That means that she didn’t go to Gabriella’s birthday. Tre and Melissa are sitting right next to each other but seem very distant. Teresa doesn’t turn her head to look at her when she talks.
Dina says what she loves about Tre is that yesterday was Gabriella’s birthday and Teresa was right there with here. Teresa says the little ones don’t know anything. Teresa is clueless. Of course they do. They just didn’t get the courtesy of hearing it from their parents.
Dina says she didn’t want to do another reality show with family. She says maybe if it was a cooking show. Andy asks if she would do a cooking show with Caroline and she said, “Yes, I love my sister.” They talked about her previous season. Dina says she still has not filed for divorce. They are still friends with benefits. A viewer says it is slutty for her to date while she is married. She says they are separated. They are not separated if they live together at least not under the law. Tre sticks of for her and says slutty is when you have sex. She hasn’t had sex with them (the other guys.) Because Tre has enough time in her life to keep up with that and Dina’s vagina.
The question was asked about Dina’s funerals in her head. Did she have one for Caroline and Jac? Dina pauses. She says she usually doesn’t have funerals for family, but there might have been a wake. Then she laughs sort of maniacally. Dina says basically without naming names that it is healthier to love from a distance because Jacqueline is in both of their lives. She refers to Jac as toxic. I get it. I have a sibling with people who are toxic to me around as well. It’s just healthier to avoid the whole situation sometimes. Tre sticks up for Dina again. Andy says it was the show that was the issue and Dina says yes. Tre says she is glad Dina finally admitted it. Tre is not sedated at all. She seems to be in a good mood. Very chatty.
Tre launches into a discussion about the effects of being on the show. She says that it causes problems (you know like prison time.) Andy says that you don’t have to fight with your siblings on the show. Tre again reacts and says that people think keeping it real means you can hit below the belt on the show. She has never done that. TereSSA then pipes in asking Tre, “In six season, you don’t think you have ever hit below the belt???” Tre says no. Um, PROSTITUTION WHORE, anyone? Melissa is trying to be quiet but looks like she may erupt (fingers crossed.) TereSSa says she hit below the belt this season with her mother. Melissa says she doesn’t want to back track. She feels like they have come so far. Then she backtracks. Melissa says of course she feels like there were several times she was hit below the belt but with all the things going on she is not going to talk about how she feels about that. Again, Tre is almost looking in the opposite direction of Melissa.
TerSSa says that she wasn’t a religious watcher of the show before she came on but her understanding was that hitting below the belt was Tre’s M.O. Tre says she was friends with Jac for ten years and never hurt her. Um, then why are you not still friends? Melissa’s eyes are quietly rolling so hard they have left her face entirely and are rolling across the floor. She is never going to get through this without saying something.
Andy asks if she watched Manzo’d with Children and Dina says she doesn’t watch TV. I believe that. I actually envy that.
Tre is all smiles defending Dina. Now that the segment is about Melissa, Tre has her frown on. Andy makes fun of Joe’s sprayed on hair from last season and Melissa says she likes the shaved look. Tre does not like it. A view asks about how the fake garbage business is going? Do you think it will be better or wore than your singing career. Melissa says that Joe is still a real estate developer and the garbage thing is just a side business. I mean what can she say? It was part of our deal with the car dealer who let me drive a stolen Bentley on the show and is under investigation for fraud now, so that storyline is over?
They ask about Chateau Beaver. She says the squatter is out, and the have the foundation poured on the new home. She says nothing about moving back but I thought she did/was. A viewer asks Melissa why Atonia is such a diva about living in a rental about three times the size of most homes. Melissa says she has talked to her about it, but Antonia is dealing with children of privilege and she was born into the house in Montville and now she has been downsized. Oh the problems of rich kids today. Melissa says she loves the smaller size, which I sort of believe because she kept trying to get Joe to build a smaller home.
Oh god. It’s time for Amber. We hit on Amber’s two storylines, THE CANCER and THE DOUCHEBAG. Andy asks her what stage her cancer was in when they found it. She says STAGE ONE. Andy asks what the survival rate for that is and she said 95% if you have chemo and a double mastectomy. Um, I don’t think you even need to have all that and it would still be 95% So now can we talk about how the hell her mastectomy gave her “Angel wings?” Or not. It’s all crazy. The twins and Dina mock her for saying The cancer. Nicole is going hard on her and says her nose looks good. Amber denies getting a nose job. Tre actually turns her head toward Amber when she talks unlike when Melissa does. There is a huge rift with Tre and Melissa. Reader questions about THE DOUCHEBAG. Andy asks if anyone can anyone nice about Jim. The twins think that Jim is very abusive at home as well. Jim kept trash talking on social media after filming ended. Andy agreed that Jim is a disaster on Twitter. Amber is starting to get heated saying that the vile things that came from Nicole’s children were the reason. Um, no. Jim is the reason. Jim is scum. If everyone says you are dead, you should just lay down.
Back from commercial and Kathy and Rosie are out on the stage. Tre is now a completely different person. She’s looks downtrodden. Andy congratulates Kathy on her new cook book and asks if Tre has a copy yet. She says know. Kathy says she is very late getting them out. I don’t really think Tre will need one where she is going. Andy beats the dead horse of the gag gift for Christmas. They edit in the footage that is quick and highly edited where Kathy says to send (pass) it down. That footage makes it look like it was intentional. Kathy says the gift could have ended up with anyone. Tre says no, Rosie put it in front of her. This is clearly the issue that divided the sisters from Tre. Andy says they could all use a dictionary and plays a montage of their butchering of the English language.
Andy asks Tre if things are good between her and Kathy and Rosie. Tre says, “Yeah, things are fine.” in that nonchalant way one says “nothing is wrong” to your partner. Everyone exchanges awkward glances especially Rosie and Kathy. They roll footage on Kathy and Rosie. It ends with a family dinner and Kathy is teary-eyed when they talk about Teresa and Rich asks Kathy and Teresa’s mother how she feels and she says, “When you don’t do the right thing, it always catch up with you.” Pan to Tre who clearly has now been sedated. Andy says he wants to go back to that conversation about your cousins situation and Tre gets up and says she needs a break and walks off. She says you guys can have the conversation without me. Tre is in a floor length gold lamé dress. The camera follows her offstage and she asks where the bathroom is. It seems to me based on her mood change she had already been to “the bathroom.” The producer followers her to the bathroom we can hear Tre say that when that conversation ends she will go back out, but “to me? family doesn’t act like that. Tre in the bathroom says that what her aunt said was very inappropriate. She is asking someone for gum or a mint. Dina says she never spoke about Tre’s situation on camera and Kathy shouldn’t have either. Dina’s hair. Remind me to speak on that later. Kathy says she texted Tre today. Kathy says she reached out to Joe and let him know she wants to come see him and the family. Kathy talks about going to Joe’s father’s wake as if she got flak for going from someone. Kathy and Rosie, especially Rosie seem very upset by the whole situation. Rosie cries. Tre is still in the bathroom. She found a penny. I’m serious. She says, “Oh a penny. Find a penny pick it up…”
Rosie denies that her relationship was just for the show. Rosie says she is a show in herself. Kathy is asked about her daughter’s brain tumor returning and she says how hard it is to have to go through that twice and wonder if your child will know you when she wakes up. It is very emotional and Tre walks back in and then stops and says, “Oh are we still talking about this because if we are, I am going to go back. ” Andy asks Tre why she left. She says because she is going through a lot and she needed a break. Andy says that he assumes what he saw in the clip really hurt her. Tre says,”next question?” and her voice breaks. Tre says she told her family not to talk about her legal issues. Rosie said no one told her. Tre says Kathy knew. Kathy says they didn’t talk about her legal issues. Tre says they just showed it! Lots of very tense moments and Andy finally lets it drop after pointing out to Tre that she is on a reality show where people are supposed to talk about what is going on in their lives. It’s clear now why Tre is mad a Melissa for the scenes with her and Joe. They were actually both very respective of Tre and just talking about how they were worried about her and support her.
Kathy was asked by a viewer if she feels like a traitor to Teresa for filming with Jac. Kathy says no. She says he relationship with Jac has nothing to do with Teresa. Tre says she doesn’t miss Jac but she wishes her well. Dina says she doesn’t know Nick at all. Andy asks Dina if Jac invited her over to meet Nick would she go? She says probably not. There is nothing she can do for Nick. She’s not Mother TereSSa, Teresa. Nick doesn’t know her. Dina says she is more bother “for the kids that understand” (implied what is going on ) like her daughter because Chris is her godfather. Dina says she invited everyone, Jac, Chris, Caroline, everyone to Lexi’s graduation party and they didn’t come. Andy asks if she will go to Lauren’s wedding. She says she doesn’t know. She was hurt she was not invited to the engagement party. She didn’t know it was”like that.” This whole show Dina is making it seem like she really wants to reconcile (without having a sit down conversation) and she is shocked that the rest of them won’t just pretend like nothing ever happened. Dina was shocked that Lexi and her parents were not invited. Wait, the grandparents weren’t invited to Lauren’s engagement party? Wow. Kathy asks Dina if she doesn’t think things change on a daily basis and Dina said no, just last month there was BS from Jac on Twitter. Perhaps this whole family should get off Twitter.
Dina doesn’t want Jac in her life. Dina said that Chris reached out when he heard she was separated. She could not have been happier. The implication is that Jac has interfered in their attempts at reconciliation. He was her best friend. Dina said they had a plan to meet and implied that Jac kept it from happening.
After the break there are only three minutes left and yet they bring out the men. Tre seem SUPER unhappy that Juicy is sitting behind her on stage. Perhaps she is worried about what he will say? Andy asks Juicy how he is processing all this. Joe says if you stuck a knife in him, he probably would not even feel it. Andy goes to Tre and asked why she told her family not to come to the sentencing. She said if she saw her parents there she would have broken down in front of the judge. Melissa says she was in shock. Joe says it has been pretty much hell. It’s his sister and his brother. It’s breaking his heart. Joe is crying. He reaches over and grabs Juicy’s shoulder and says, “I love you.” Tre turns around and snips, “Yeah we know.” It seem Tre is pissed at her whole family except for her parents. Certainly everyone involved with the show is on her shit list.
Next time: Tre once again claims she didn’t understand that the plea deal meant jail time. Teressa says it is a tragedy what Tre is going through but she knows the pain that she brought on to Santa. Jim points out to Joe Giudice that he called Tre a scumbag himself. I’m surprised Jim lived to see another day, but sadly, he did.
Sorry no time to edit, it’s been over two hours already. So keep the typo remarks to yourselves.
I need to re-watch…I thought Tre was saying she was glad Andy was admitting the show was to blame.
Why is Tre saying she “may” not be around for Melania ‘s birthday in February. HELLO!! CLINK CLINK!
Tre looked like she was on something…her eyes didn’t look open all of the way and she was still talking strange like she was in the WWHL interview.
Clearly things are not ok with Tre and her brother and Melissa. I personally think it is because Tre knows they have been doing the same fraudulent activity and aren’t going to the big house ….. at least not yet. …
Someone on the show recently (possibly Chris Laurita) said that Tre never forgives. I think that this is 100% right. She has clearly not forgiven them for crossing her. I think she was downright disdainful towards them tonight.
Teresa is pissed at the whole world. She will find out soon enough that no one gives a good fuck.
I would never forgive them either.
It takes a strong person to forgive.
Gemini – actually curious for your perspective, not being snarky, but why would you not forgive them? What specifically do you think they did that was wrong and unforgiveable? Obviously there’s lots of history but it seems all Tre’s family did was vaguely mention whatever was in the headlines at the moment and say how sad and worried they were for her. I’m curious to understand how some people see it differently.
i can’t speak for Gemeni, but I will said that I would never forgive Melissa.
Melissa has spent years trying to hurt Teresa and ‘bring her down’. Now that she is ‘down’ Melissa is trying to be her friend and support her. It is complete bs to me, and looks like Teresa is on to her.
Melissa has always been in competition with Teresa, and it’s clear Teresa never approved of Teresa. Melissa was furious when Teresa started on this show and was the first to blog about the show and write terrible things about Teresa when that didn’t work she went to Danielle, and sold stories to the tabloids about Teresa and her family all out of anger and spite.
Then she got on the show and when Teresa didn’t welcome her with open arms she spent the last few seasons trying to expose her. Now she is exposed and Melissa is acting like her best friend. I would never forgive or trust her.
No doubt that Joe Gorga has down every fraudulent thing the Guidices did and is waiting to be caught.
Melissa and Joe had guilty written all over them this season, suddenly they are financially accountable, and Mel wants a smaller house, Ya oooookay!!
Lola . . . So according to your theory – Melissa was working with the Feds to “bring down” Teresa?!
The vast majority do not approve of the Guidice’s 13yrs of (documented) lying/cheating/scamming & according to your comment, neither does Teresa → “It’s clear Teresa never approved of Teresa”.
Really, never? That’s a bit harsh. I’m sure she was a lovely child. A little hairy, but lovely, nonetheless.
Don’t know if your comment was meant to be humorous or you seriously believe what you wrote. Either way, your Freudian slip tells me at least your subconscious knows it’s TOTAL BS.
ETA: It’s pretty sad (& fucked up) when you blame others for your actions.
Lola – interesting perspective along with some back story I have not heard, thank you!
Oh and about Dina…..she won’t work things out with her family because she doesn’t want to admit to or own anything and they won’t pretend all is fine so they are all at a stalemate. You can see clearly during part 1 of this reunion she is all about pretending…….a huge reason why she is friends with Tre.
@mrs smith… I agree about Dina. She seems like a walking contradiction to me. One minute she says she loves her family and then in the next breath I can’t be around them. One minute she’s glad to hear from her brother then there’s no contact. I’m inclined to believe C Manzo when she says that Dina put conditions on their mending fences that involved the family cutting ties w Jac. Why would Chris leave his wife to make amends with her? That makes no sense to me whatsoever.
I’m with you guys.
I agree too. What are these insane conditions that both Dina and Tre put on their brothers ? Past seasons Tre doesnt want Melissa around, now Dina wants the same thing?
Its both innapropriate and wrong.
I think its simply a case of 2 women who were never told no.
Also, i agree Tre was medicated, but after she came back from her break, the look in her eyes when Andy wouldnt stop asking questions, was one of murder.
It has become really clear to me why Dina and Teresa are such good friends. Let’s pretend everything is wonderful and act as if no one is going to jail. Let’s pretend it is normal to live with a man that doesn’t love you but will screw you if he feels like it and is leaving you with nothing after divorcing you. In most families they want and expect the best for you because they love you. They are the first to call you out on your bullshit, criminal or not. These people are unbelievable.
That whole comment where Tre said”Finally you’re admitting something” (which I missed the first time) was completely insane. I wish someone had told her ‘you are projecting so much.” and kept the sedatives away from her!
I also need to rewatch the WWHL interview. I hope they reshow it.
Yes Mrs Smith, it was Andy who Teresa was saying that she was glad that he finally admitted something to.
thats what i thought i heard too that she was saying that andy admitted it!
Omg, I so agree with you. I know her brother has done the same thing as Joe Gue Neither of them have much education and lil Joe watched Joe Gue and said if this fool can do it, so can I. Not a con incidence that they are in the same line if work. He just figured out what Joe Gue did and copied him. I can’t see him going from a Go Go dancer to qualifying for a multi million dollar project or even just having 500k to build a million dollar logo me from scratch. That’s why Melissa is sitting there quietly. They know Tre is hot headed and will go off instantly and expose them. She has that “this B, better not say anything” look on her face when Melissa talks.
Teresa looks like she has aged a good decade. I guess if you continually sweep things under the rug, they never happened. She will never admit wrongdoing and I think her homelife these days have to be horribly stressful. Why does her family and other housewives act like the Guidice’s have a fatal disease instead of being criminals?
I don’t know, it’s amazing. All I can say is, never underestimate the power of denial.
LOL Beth….fatal disease. I bet Teresa will receive some sort of therapy in prison that will force her to confront her denial issue cause there ain’t no denying she is in serious repose. She’ll be a tough cookie to crack though.
I wonder when Tre is going to crack. She is wrapped so tight that you know it’s going to happen. It’s not going to be pretty. I hope she doesn’t find herself sitting in an isolation chamber in a little paper dress. I’m not a fan of Tre’s but I really don’t see her have a nervous breakdown either. Hopefully she is more honest with herself in private.
Thank you, Beth! They all tiptoe around like those poor Guidices had this unfortunate situation thrust upon them. They’re all being incredibly (if not overly) considerate and respectful. Teresa would’ve been jumping out of her chair to attack if it was someone else. Not racking up any sympathy votes.
This was actually a good reunion. I kind of went back and forth with whose side I was on. For a minute I was on Rosie’s side against( Tre &Dina), Melissa’s side (against Dina) Tre’s side ( against the twins) Amber (against the twins). I thought everyone was as honest as they could be…delusion and all.
When Teresa said it made her sad to think that she may not be at Melania’s birthday party in February, I was floored. This woman is so delusional! She actually was thinking at that time that she was so special that she could wrangle some sort of deal to avoid going to jail. Well, she did get another attorney after the reunion was aired. That attorney asked the judge to change the sentence in order that Teresa could spend most of her sentence in a half way house. It was denied.
Teresa said she never hit below the belt. That was so laughable especially with Melissa sitting right there beside her. The woman is totally crazy. And there was a wall of ice between Teresa and Melissa. Melissa was mouthing all of the right words but Teresa never looked at her even when she answered.
That was so funny when she said she “might” miss Melania’s birthday in February. Really funny. Yes, Tre, put on your earhorn, now listen, you most definitely will be missing it.
Exactly! I thought her saying that was the most appalling thing shown in this episode. My “dwawter” thinks if she can’t get anything else to keep her out of the big house that maybe she will offer up her brother and Melissa to the feds….ya know…SNITCH……don’t think that would happen but it would be hilarious.
Yes Ms. Smith, Melissa looks like the one who’s been sedated or had a lobotomy. That girl is in a walking coma. I hope Joe and Melissa haven’t done anything illegal cause that alone could explain Melissa’s behavior this entire season. She’s portrayed (and I do mean portrayed) a totally different personality this season…..all the way through to the reunion. Tre will never snitch on Joe, but this circus never ends.
Yep, Miliania will be in the bounce house, while Tre will be in the big house.
Except, the histrionics arent over by a long shot. Tre will end up trying to act crazy to avoid prision.
And she’s actually going to miss Milania’s next 2 birthdays. (15 months)
I doubt she will do a full 15 months.
She’ll do 85% if she keeps her shit together. Just under 13 months.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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With good behaviour she will be out before next Christmas probably.
Oh, they take crazy in prison Eve!
Prisons are the new mental hospitals after all the psych hospitals closed. I worked in a state correctional institute, not federal, but there are all kinds of psych treatment available: meds, groups, substance abuse treatment, individual therapy. There has to be. Fact: There is only one category of American citizens whom the Supreme Court has decreed are ENTITLED to healthcare, only one. Incarcerated persons. They are not entitled to gold standard care, but they must have clinically indicated treatment.
A bit off topic, but there is a case in Massachusetts where a male convicted of murdering his wife transitioned to female with hormonal treatments while incarcerated. He sued MA so he can have the gender-reassignment surgery and complete the transition, and he eventually won. I believe the state is appealing.
It’s VERY apparent that Tre is NOT having it with her family. Tre didn’t want her family talking about her and that was the only story line Kathy and Jac had.
Also, did anyone else catch Dina’s comment when Andy said “If someone crosses you I feel like you’d cut a bitch” and Dina responded “I’ll just cut her off.” She basically confirmed that she feels that Jac crossed her (her ratting out Dina season one during the table flip me thinks). That’s probably why Tre and Dina get along so well. Their family’s don’t have their backs, so they have each other’s.
I agree. I think the reason Dina came on the show is to have Teresa’s back. I can’t stand Caroline, or Jac, and for that reason alone, I’d much rather see Dina if I had to choose between the three.
Agreed.
Talking about Teresa is the only storyline that just about any of the cast has besides Amber. This reunion made that crystal clear. Melissa was basically wallpaper the whole season because she had nothing to give now that the family feud storyline is over. I have no idea what they’ll do with this show next season now.
Expecting her family not to talk about her case is a joke! If they didn’t, I’m sure Teresa would’ve had a problem with that.
BH – I totally agree, I can’t figure out what the rules are about what the family is allowed to say or not re: Tre’s legal issues? Seems like Dina basically says the same things but tiptoes a bit more with her language. It seems like they were all very careful in what they said to be only sympathetic and not critical, not sure why Tre seems so mad at her whole family except her parents. It looks during this reunion like Tre throws up in her mouth a little bit every time her issues are even mentioned. And I agree with everyone she looks sedated, it makes her mouth into a weird wide flat line, that’s the only time I see it like that. Did anyone else notice how good Joe Giudice looked though? Seems like he’s lost a lot of weight (not surprising) but also his face is not all red and puffy like it always was. He looked 10 years younger to me, maybe he cut back on the drinking.
Hokiechick, I thought the same thing about Joe, I’ve never seen him look better. He might not be the drunk they want us to believe, or he’s feeling great that it wont be long before he’s rid of Teresa.
I don’t believe for a second Tre didn’t want family or friends at the sentencing because she’d boo-hoo. She didn’t want witnesses to her crimes being described in detail. She didn’t want them to see the Judge “slap” her. I think she truly believes no one has read all the charges, so she thinks they/we buy her lies. I kinda feel bad for Melissa, that she cant speak her mind with that muzzle Tre has forced her to wear. Their family has turned into the Stepfords of Jersey.
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Yours as no reply arrow! Yes!! Absolutely thought JuIcy looked great. Thinner, paler and younger!
I can’t understand why Dina thinks it’s OK to accept going back on to the show but for Jac to have done so as well insults Dinas sensibilities! “That was the last straw for me when Jac agreed to come back on the show.” *Cough* delusional hypocrite!!! We’re seeing how Dinaand Tre are two peas in a pod. They deserve each other!
Teresa Giudice is so fucking stupid , it’s painful. I’ve never seen someone with their head so far up their own ass. Her Aunt spoke the truth. What doesn’t this dumb bitch get about actions having consequences?
I can not keep asking myself “is Tre really that stupid and delusional?” anymore. It boggles my mind. I found it incredibly offensive that Tre dared to imply that in any way her Aunt was disrespecting her! Momma Pierri is a very sweet lady. She deserves respect not Teresa. Mrs. Pierre is speaking from a lifetime of experience! True needs to learn to shut up and listen to your elders, she might learn something.
Totally agree! The only good news about her is that she’s finally going to get the huge attitude adjustment she is due Jan 5. I do not understand why that girl truly believes the rules apply to everyone else but not to her. “I never hit below the belt. I did not understand my plea deal included jail time.” Shut the fuck up you pathological liar! There’s no way on god’s green earth her attorney omitted the fact jail time would be a possibility when they struck the deal. See, she really thinks we are stupid and would believe such a ridiculous claim.
And yeah, seems like Dina who is also the baby of the family can really be a spoiled pouty brat too. Sounds like she has a problem with truly forgiving just like her sidekick Tre. I always liked Dina before, but this season as definitely shown a different and unbecoming side which has totally turned me off. Makes me want to puke when she takes up for Teresa about the charges she’s been found guilty of. I’m so over the enabling!!!
Elizabeth & Angel: yep. I couldn’t say it any better.
Its not about speaking the truth. She said that she asked her family not to talk about her legal issues on camera. I don’t think that is unreasonable. Not only did they talk about her and her case and her plea….they filmed their reactions. That was low. I don’t care if she committed 500 felonies. Family should not treat each other like that.
I would NEVER have come on tv and aired dirty laundry to strangers like Joe, Melissa and Kathy did. Never…it was wrong. Every episode Teresa’s family sat around and trashed her. It was sickening to watch….and I’m not a Teresa fan.
Agreed, you tell friends in private what you think about touchy subjects honestly. You dont sit around at the table eating salads and cannolis gossiping while pretending to care. Also, you dont announce that you think your family member is getting what they deserved on NATIONAL TV.
Why does Bravo think we needed Kathy and Jac back to eat salads and cannolis and talk like they care about Tre when we a know it’s bullshit?? Do they think this is interesting TV.
Yes please bring on some folks, family or not to say what some are,for some reason afraid to say. T&J Got what they deserved and they are going to jail!
Doesn’t Andy usually talk to everyone at least once round in Part I reunion. He didn’t get to the twins at all (They jumped in though). Guess they’re changing things. Yeah there is some great tension between the Gorgas and Tre. This must be why Melissa is so contained. She has no choice, it’s Joe’s sister and clearly he isn’t taking it well and she has to support him and taking a back seat (for now). Well it wasn’t so bad, it will get ugly when douchebag makes his entrance.
With Teresa around, Andy doesn’t seem to focus on anyone else.
So, what about Dina’s hair? (You said remind you…)
Yeah…that hair and that jewelry. Is she trying to look like royalty? Personally I thought she looked ridiculous.
When you said royalty it made me think her outfit thing was Michael jackson-esque.
OMG what the fuck was that woman wearing on her head/around her neck???
I guarantee that someone will be all, “Dina looked so elegant.” In advance I disagree.
Dina looked like she was channeling her inner Star Trek or Flash Gorden alien persona.
Melissa looked more out of it than Tre. That girl had a really flat affect. The only time she had any animation in her face/ voice was when she spoke about he children.
Amber and The Cancer: the way she carried on during the show I thought she was at least stage 3. I think she had such drastic treatment because she was under 35. She might have had the lat flap done because she might want to have another baby.
The twins are a waste. The whole Manzo/Laurita family feud is sad especially because the kids are caught in the middle. I blame Jac ’cause I hate her as much as I hate Tamra from RHOC.
Tre is on the heavy duty meds. Does Juicy Joe look extra Juicy because Tre will be gone soon?
Juicy looks good because he is off the alcohol most likely. I have a feeling that is part of his pre-surrender supervision.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I agree, juicy joe taught joe the fraud game. Tre said so the first season joe and melissa was on, that juicy taught joe how to flip houses. I cant stand dina
She doesnt practice true zen. Great recap
Dina, Dina, Dina . . . I’m with Caroline, you need to grow up! I’m glad that Andy sort of called her out on Zen – I’ll cut a bitch duality. I wish he would of been more blunt and/or direct with her.
No, Caroline needs to SHUT UP!
Yeah, so far all the spirituality I’ve seen from admins was that meeting with that guy in the bright yellow jacket and the comment she made about “crazy Pieces” last night.
*Dina. Not “admins”. Thanks, autocorret.
Melissa was totally noncommittal when answering as to how the garbage business was doing – the business for which Joe spent millions of dollars. According to Melissa, It is just a side business as Joe is still a real estate developer. Did Joe get his license renewed? She finally admitted that the mansion had not been sold and Patterson was out. It is sitting empty. She also said that they had poured the foundation for their new shopping mall/house. So let’s do some simple math here: Recently Joe spent “millions and millions” buying a garbage business that is now just a “side” business. (I think he said he spent most of their money on the business and they would lose everything if it did not succeed.) Also, he has to pay about $20,000 a month just to keep up the mortgage, taxes and insurances on the unsold mansion. In addition, he is paying $6,000 a month on a rental home that Antonia thinks is a dump because she is entitled to much better. Now factor in car payments, utilities, entertainment, blah, blah. He has to come up with at least $32,000 a month to stay even- about $385,000 a year. Then there is the possibility that he is still paying off the millions of dollars on mortgages on his rental properties that he reportedly took out about 6 years ago. And, even after all of that, he STILL has enough money to be building a $4,000,000 mega mansion. Please, someone, tell me where this kid is getting this kind of money.
Hmmmm, pondering…maybe the same place where Joe & Teresa got their money?
Maybe that’s why Melissa keeps mouthing smaller, smaller. May as well get use to it now so you can always say, “i was ready to downsize.” Joe’s a hothead, and he is Tre’s blood and maybe those dumb genes run deep. Let’s just hope he’s not in deep with financial fraud or he can at least quietly back out gracefully without any fanfare allegedly.
First of all the Gorgas have NOT laid a foundation because they DON’T own any land in Franklin Lakes. They do NOT have the income to finance the shopping mall. Liar liar pants on fire, Messy.
Whoa.
From where did you glean these numbers? Millions of dollars on the data shredding enterprise? There is no license required to be in real estate development. How do you have knowledge of their car payments, monthly mortgages etc . I call bullshit
My figures are derived from researchable documents, sites. comments made by Joe and Melissa and common sense. Go back and look at what Joe told Melissa what he paid for the garbage business – I didn’t make up the millions he said he paid. Was he telling the truth? Who knows. These are the same people who allowed the world to believe that they had “sold” their mansion for full price of 3.8 million dollars at last year’s reunion. It was never sold – it was a rent to own contract which fell through – big difference. The taxes records show that the Montville mansion alone are $65,000 a year. The monthly mortgage, tax and insurance payments on the mansion would be staggering for most people. And, as per Melissa, they aren’t even living there. As for Joe being a real estate developer – you are correct, you do not need a license. However, I was thinking that Melissa meant builder as she has said on numerous occasions that Joe was the best builder in New Jersey. Oh…that just sparked a memory… recently on WWHL Melissa said Joe had bought another building and this was after the garbage business – did they mortgage that building, pay cash or lie?. Who knows the truth – but if what Joe and Melissa say they own or lease is true, a calculator and common sense says they have a huge debt load.
treasureglen, Please read the commenting rules. Particularly #10. If you want to research and write a post on the Gorgas, perhaps you should start your own blog.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think Teresa thought her aunt was judging her and Teresa doesn’t like anyone to criticize or judge her in any way. She is innocent. The only one who truly understands this is Dina.
I still can’t believe Judge Salas actually judged Teresa and Joe! No one should ever judge anyone else!
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Tamara, Amber has “angel wings” due to the type of surgery she had with her mastectomy. She had bilateral latissmus flap. The surgeons take the latissmus muscle and use to create a new chest wall for tissue expanders. The tissue expanders are a form of implants that are slowly filled with saline to stretch out the tissue to house the final breast implants.This is the first stage of breast reconstruction after the initial mastectomy.
Thanks Jennifer. Seems like there are a lot of better options to that. Like a TRAM. Or regular old breast reconstruction without mangling both sides of the torso.
You are correct TT. I am a breast cancer survivor since 5/2008. I had the reconstruction with the tissue expanders but it was too painful and I didn’t like the results so I got over a year later the TRAM surgery (stomach). It is a journey and I still have a few more procedures to go. God is able.
Plastic surgeons do not do a lot of TRAM flaps any longer. They are quite painful and take a longer time to heal. The surgery Amber had is usually the norm due to it provides less complications, and it provides better symmetry. It does make the reconstruction process longer though. Due to the harshness of chemo and radiation, simply putting in implants cannot be performed until after the adjuvant therapy as been performed. Most women want to at least have “breast” why undergoing chemo/radiation so that is why the latissmus flap is performed.
BTW, I love the blog, and look forward to reading it nightly. Thank you for your hard work recapping the shows. It is greatly appreciated.
Thanks Jennifer and thanks for all the info. Here’s hoping I never need to know more about it.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I asked a friend about this and she said muscle was removed from her stomach to enable reconstruction.
Teresa was sentenced a few days earlier and didn’t Andy do a special with Teresa and Joe about their sentencing a few days after that? I’m sure Teresa is still in shock she actually has to do time and seems to think the subject has been talked about enough. Move on Andy.
Kept waiting for Andy to bring the twins in and they were panting wanting to discuss their season issues.
Dreading the Amber and Jim show coming up next reunion. Both seem to be pathological liars. Amber sits there and claims she’s never seen the angry side of Jim at home because she doesn’t piss him off and then two minutes later is saying she goes “toe to toe” with Jim when they fight at home. I agree with the one twin that Jim is no doubt abusive to Amber in the privacy of their home. Not physically but verbally. There’s no doubt just based on his scenes with women and his twitter rants. He’s got little man disease combined with a delusion of superiority of intelligence. Yet he can’t spell or speak or conduct himself with any sort of correct social mannerisms.
I AGREE. Andy goes after Teresa relentlessly, it gets exhausting after awhile. Can we talk about something else, Andy?? Lets ask why the twins blame Teresa, and why are they are not confronting Victoria Gotti?
I can’t believe they’re bringing it up AGAIN after watching the season and seeing Victoria Gotti is the bitch who said this about their mother, yet she points the finger at Teresa for sharing this burden with her bestie Dina. Those twins are unbearable, let’s have at it and get it over with.
Maybe Andy covers that in part 2. Although any topic that doesn’t cover Tre going to college or Dina’s family drama will akways be quickly covered (with the exception of how horrible Jim is). With the ratings this season it’s obvious that Amber and the twins didn’t bring it storyline wise. Tre carried this season….barely. Most people only bothered to tune in to criticize Tre or cheer her on. The rest to me was white noise.
Teresa got paid the big bucks to stay on the show and follow her legal woes and pretty much screwed up the season. When Dina decided to follow Teresa’s lead and never bring up her legal issues Bravo had to bring Jacqueline back so somebody would dialogue about it. Epic fail on Bravo’s part to base the season around Teresa’s legal woes-they should have cut her loose last season.
I would like to hear more about the twins but since they have never met Victoria Gotti how does one go about confronting her? Do they show up at her house with a camera crew or is Bravo suppose to bring her on as a surprise at the Reunion? I sincerely doubt that woman would be up for a confrontation or maybe they could trot Santa out to say how she feels about Victoria’s loose lips.
Well why wouldn’t the twins blame Teresa? Teresa was the only point of connection that Victoria Gotti had to the program. Certainly Teresa knew in advance what Victoria planned to announce and she could have refused to participate in such a vile rumor but she didn’t. Teresa’s complicity was shady and shameful, bringing harm to a family that she barely knew.
I believe Teresa knew exactly the tea Victoria was going to spill.
Of course she did, it was on the call sheet. 🙂
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I noticed that also that Amber said she doesn’t cross Jim but then said they go “toe-to-toe.” His temper is so quick that you know he hammers her behind closed doors about anything he thinks she does wrong. He has to be playing it up at least 1000% for the cameras, though. He wouldn’t still be alive if he conducted himself like that every day in his real life. And I get that Andy needs to ask the basic legal questions for each show bc some people unlike us don’t watch them all religiously, but I get that she probably thought “Didn’t we JUST have this conversation from every possible angle?” Discussing it seems to make her actually physically ill, it’s like a button they can all push that flares an ulcer in her stomach.
Every time I think Teresa cannot act more miserable and disgusting she does. She’s just a miserable rotten person through and through. She will not do well in prison. Just wait and see. Her temper will get the best of her.
Word. She was just YUCK.
Theresa appeared to be stoned.to.the.bone., and I frankly was suprised that Andy did not remind her that she is paid to be on RHONJ, a reality show, and insist that she should sit her culo down to address address topics as they unfold during the course of the reunions … disappointing. Though Theresa did appear to be stoned, she sure was able to put her foot down, lay down the law to Andy, and then walk off the set, and then she reiterated the law and limits before she would sit again. This is why I continue to insist that Tabitha ‘Tabitcha’ Coffee (of “Tabitha Takes Over” fame) should be appointed ‘Special MC” for all BRAVO show reunion programs, and also as the WWHL substitute hostess for Andy. Tabitha is intelligent, very articulate, fair-minded and yet, she would not bat an eye or cut anyone slack if any of the cast members turned on the water works to attempt to detract attention to avoid difficult questions, or attempt to set conditions about who may or may not be present, or pick and choose topics or questions. One thing for sure is Theresa is a manipulative liar … to the extent of criminality, though I believe that Coffee can effortlessly be intimidating enough to cut through her BS and let her and other Housewives know without doubt that there’s a new sherif in town, and she’s laying down the law.
Anymore, I am tempted to not watch reunions because of how readily Andy lets lies and lame responses pass. He’s an okay guy, does entertaining puff and fluff interviews well, but confrontation clearly is NOT in his wheelhouse.
Andy will ask the hardball questions, but he won’t follow through, he folds up like a cheap suit. Always has, always will. He’s too nice a guy or something…some might even say he’s a pussy. Whatever. Andy will never be Tabitha and he will continue to do the Reunions. We just have to suck it up.
Tre is still the fan favourite according to that WWHL poll so maybe Andy is worried he will come across as a bully if he goes too hard (this was filmed within a week of sentencing I believe). Just a theory.
Andy is getting pummelled on Twitter for going to hard on Tre.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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So I guess my theory was right. Sometimes I feel bad for Andy. If he goes too soft we call him a pussy (like the OC reunion with Tamra), too hard and people go for him. Then I come to my senses and realise I don’t really care. 🙂
I kind of love Andy. I don’t know why, but I want to think he’s a decent sort with a heart and just can’t go “there”. It could be his wonky eye though 😉
I guess we may have to agree to disagree, gingersnap (my regrets since I typically with what I’ve seen of your postings).
True, Andy may ask “hardball questions”, though unfortunately he also allows too many of his initial and subsequent questions go unanswered! I honestly like Andy (most of the time), except when he ‘spazes out’ about hosting special guests on WWHL, and he rattles on and on and on; annoying and frankly selfish, because it means his worshipful, powder puff interviews instead of learning more about the guest.
He needn’t be nasty (I don’t care for that approach anyway), but Andy should pose RELEVANT questions and pursue honest and accurate answers. (He could even watch the Sunday morning talking heads pose questions and continue until the subject(s) he interviews finally answer!
@Tasos826 ~ Reading comprehension may not be my strong suit, but I think we actually agree. I don’t expect too much out of Andy as far as asking the hard questions and following through. He won’t, he never has. It’s been a major complaint of viewers everywhere, but that’s Andy. Do I wish he would? Heck, yeah. I wish he would nail these bitches to the wall, but he won’t. Sigh. Would Tabitha nail these bitches to the wall? Oh yeah, Tabitha don’t play and that would be FUN to watch, but as long as Andy is alive and kicking, I don’t see him ever giving up his seat, Andy just doesn’t seem to have the stomach for the real tough questions, which leaves the viewer unsatisfied and wanting more.
If I ever did disagree with someone, I hope it’s someone as nice as you though 🙂
Reunions are not a trial, it sounds like you want people to be sworn to tell the truth and grilled on their personal life and any infractions. That is a different program, this is not court TV. I am frankly over hearing about the Guidice’s illegal activities. What they did was very wrong, their whole family will be impacted for a long time. They will, however unhappily, serve the time. They seemed to be Bravo’s/Andy’s punching bag season after season. Now that they have been proven to be criminals, he still doesn’t have a right to question every thought or aspect of their life. I have seen few people from any franchise sit on the couch and be what I think was honest and open to all the questions. Andy has always acted like he watched RHONJ and took notes for any words or comments spoken by only Tre and Joe that got his personal disapproval so he could corner them about it on WWHL and then again at the reunion. I think Joe has had super restraint not to deck Andy sometimes. Too bad those contracts only protect some of the people. Other guests have walked off before but not had the audio played while they are in the bathroom. Ramona did not have to talk about her marriage. Her husband had been a part of the show, but she got to keep those difficulties private and not answer Andy. Jac kept her legal issues private.
If it was court, they would not have been allowed to switch out the small paper back dictionary given to Teresa by Kathy. I’d bet Teresa threw it out and I really doubt she went shopping to buy a larger different covered dictionary to take to lunch with Kathy. I agree with Teresa, production does stir up trouble. I’m quite sure they provided the 2nd dictionary and planned the lunch conversation. I think with her legal case pending, that gag gift from last season was far from Teresa’s mind.
I’d rather have Jeff Lewis host the reunions.
That would be interesting, but I’m going with Tabitha.
Totally agree.
I think it’s messed up no one showed up to Lexis graduation party. You show up for your niece and then you sit down and talk later. Jac is bad news. She is unstable, stupid, and selfish. In regards to Kathy, I personally wouldn’t have spoken about Tre on camera in that way. If my cousin did what Tre did, I’d tear into them in person but you couldn’t catch me saying anything in public. It adds to the children’s pain to not have family show discretion. I don’t think there was anything wrong with Joe and Melissa’s scene though.
Wow. I was pretty apathetic about Dina before tonight, but no more. She did NOT come out well at all. I wish I had been there when Andy said about the zen/cut a bitch attitudes, “You’re kind of an oxymoron…” Um, no Andy. The word you’re looking for is hypocrite!
Her statement regarding Jacqueline “open[ing] the door by coming back on the show” is just another way of saying, “Well SHE started it!”. I have a feeling this whole fight is equally juvenile. Now it’s clear that it is being perpetuated by both sides, belying Dina’s image of being “zen” and taking the high road. There is no high road with these people.
Loved Teresa’s gold lamé gown. The show’s stylist hit a home run with that one. Usually the stuff Teresa wears is on the gaudy/ugly side. I also liked the white gown that one of the twins was wearing (I don’t know which one is which) in spite of it’s strangely fitted/proportioned bodice. It looked like she had put her A-sized boobs into DD-sized cups. Again, strange.
Oh Teresa. All I can do at this point is shake my head. It’s as though she thinks that if no one speaks of her “legal problems”, they will go away; just disappear. Since she sees herself as a victim, (rather than the criminal she actually is) someone mentioning it is being disloyal. How stupid. She’s clearly just sitting and stewing in her own rancid juices, getting more and more bitter by the hour. She’s in for a very rough time.
Teresa’s dress or “gown” was the bomb. It was beautiful. I miss Andy doing the shoe thingy he used to do, where he showed us all their shoes and gave his fave. I love shoes 🙂
I really should start doing these as blind reveals, you know, when things turn out exactly like I said before the show even started filming…
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2013/09/28/exclusive-jacqueline-laurita-fired-from-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/
Good idea, these uncrupulous bloggers wont give you the credit you deserve!
Why not? You’ve been right when people weren’t too tactful when they disagree, so assert yourself! Toot your own horn on occasion. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with measured self-promotion. Just remind readers what you posted when whatever comes to fruition. (I’m fairly certain that someone here would ‘share’ his/her opinion if it ever got excessive, anyway.
You really should. You rock TT!!!
Thanks for your gracious reply regarding the question of replacing Andy for RH franchise and select other programs reunions with a more assertive MC. I’m glad to have ‘met’ you here.
Melissa said they sold their house with a 12 month closing. 12 months? That is a long time. It sounds more like a lease to own situation, and they got hustled hard by a squatter.
I think that was the case if I remember TT’s posts correctly. Melissa either is confused or just lying again.
Melissa also said her and Teresa were fine when she came on the show. Haha ha. What a bold faced liar!
Melissa looked like the cat that ate the canary. I guess she thinks that she’ll be top dog with Teresa gone.
Exactly, UF. That was part of the problem. The judge at first made some decisions based on laws regarding real estate sales and then had to change things to comply with landlord tenant laws.
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On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Teresa seemed to want to goad Andy (and Melissa) into re-hashing THEIR drama again last night – because completely severing ties with your only brother and his wife right before you head to jail is…. well, on par with going on a reality tv show when you are up to your a-hole in fraud I guess. I don’t care much for Melissa, hell, I don’t really like any of them except for Dina – but I will give her credit for at least TRYING this season. Of course the smug comments came out from time to time but she did try to toe the family line. She won the war however, she knows it, and Teresa knows it. I honestly wouldn’t put it past Teresa to rat them out on any shady doings before she heads to jail as a last ditch effort to level the field.
As for Teresa’s rage about her family discussing her legal troubles? I have no sympathy. IF she had left the show this season, then I might say – hey, you’ve taken the (advised) steps to protect both yourself and your family going into a tough legal battle, yeah, you are probably entitled to your family not making it a story line. But to stay on the show and permit the storyline to belong to no one but her??? C’mon Tre.
The twins need to go – and I feel HORRIBLE saying this but did anyone else pause on the photo of Amber with no hair for just a second and think it looked a little….fake? I will chalk it up to head shape I guess, but I just needed to put that into the universe.
I think the “fake” look of that photo stems from the extreme soft-focus lens that was used. There was so much Vaseline on that lens that she was out of focus! (Or as my movie-biz friends used to joke: “They’re shooting her through burlap!” or “They’re shooting her through velvet!” referring to the old cheesecloth-on-the-lens trick)
But yeah, I did NOT want or need to see that photo of Amber. It’s like: “We get it, Honey. You’ve had THE CANCER. You mentioned it once or three thousand times. You SUFFERED, Lord how you SUFFERED. You lost your hair. Again, we GET IT.” I think she should find a little dignity and keep some things private.
Plus, the photo itself wasn’t great. It’d be one thing if she were a professional model or a true world-class beauty; they’re the only ones who can carry off that type of picture. Think of Elizabeth Taylor’s post-brain-tumor-surgery pictures by Herb Ritts. That’s clearly the effect she was trying for – and failing to get!
The dynamic between Teresa and Dina is strange. I see why they both defend and cling to each other. Both of them but into and back each others BS.
In their minds, that is what makes a great friendship.
I have 2 friends that I have known since kindergarten, they are the people I look to when I need the TRUTH, not what I want to hear. Our friendship of over 30 yrs is so important because we want the best for each other. We don’t play that “everything you say or do is perfect and right” crap. I think that’s the only attraction in Dina and Teresa’s friendship. They love living in the land of delusion!
Melissa – I 100% agree with you, many people feel if you are true friends w someone, you agree w them no matter what even if you think they’re wrong. I always say I want my friends to help me do the right thing, not tell me I’m always doing the right thing. I will always stand by my friends and support/love them no matter what, but in private I will still let them know if I think they’re handling/reading a situation wrong. If they disagree, no sweat, but my perspective may help them see things differently. My friends do this for me and sometimes help me see things that lead me to handling a problem better than I might otherwise.
This is fundamentally untrue though. We saw this exactly play out a few weeks ago when Dina and Teresa disagreed about whether she should apologize to the Twins. They can disagree about things and still be friends. Dina didn’t support Teresa not apologizing and they both moved on from this.
It’s not that they support each other’s BS, it’s that they have RESPECT for each other and know not to cross certain boundaries. The loyalty and support they have for one another is admirable.
I agree again! It’s more about respect and that they have not spoken poorly about each other publicly even though they both probably have disagreed about things in the past privately. That is why they have been friends for so many years.
Dina’s (jacq this season) and Tre’s (Kathy, Melissa) family have come onto the show to make their family issues public for consumption. This probably has made Dina and Tre’s friendship even tighter.
Not for nothin’, but I read the apology disagreement between Teresa and Dina very differently. Dina had no good/altruistic reason to bring up the Rino/Santa rumor in Boca. Once the JimBomb was detonated and the twin turned on Dina, Dina looked for a way to ingratiate herself with the twins. If she could prod Teresa into “being the bigger person” (as if that could EVER happen) and apologize when TG didn’t think she had anything to apologize for (nor do I in this situation by the way), then Dina could position herself as Her Most Serene Zenseless Peacemaker. Namaste my ass. Just sayin’.
Just watched the reunion … Am I the only that thinks Teresa was not in shock, but FURIOUS about her situation and only holding it together because of massive amounts of Valium? When she’s in prison – without the calming meds – that girl is going to explode.
Hellz yeah.
skipping all the comments to delurk and thank you TT for your brillant summary of everything – just brilliant.
YAY for delurking. Sorry it took so long to get you moderated, I was out in THE WORLD! 🙂
Dina posted a video before what Caroline had to say on WWHL on her website. She said that one major thing is why Chris and Caroline dont put a stop to Jac constant attacks on twitter.
She also tweeted to Caroline about what she said on WWHL :”not true~I’d be quiet now my “sister” Don’t go there or I won’t be so quiet. I would text u but I don’t have ur #”. My gut says there is something else that Jac did that is not being said.
Oh, yeah. Chris cut off his engagement because Jac was pregnant…Id forgotten about that…
Can we PLEASE talk about how ugly Dina’s hair and dress were. I couldn’t even focus on what was happening they were so ugly!
Between her hair, her dress and her jewellery it appeared she was wearing some sort of costume. Her style in both fashion and decor is always over the top. And not in a good way. She is such a clown.
I agree. She wears the ugliest stuff that looks like a mish-mash of Chico’s and stuff from her daughter’s closet then add two more unrelated outfits on top of it.
Yes, Dina’s outfit was hideous. The twin in white (Nicole?) looked beautiful in that white Grecian dress. I thought Melissa’s makeup was beautiful. Soft and flawless and I thought the gold dress that Teresa wore was beautiful as well. She looked great but it was 2 days after sentencing and she, understandably, looked exhausted.
She planned that French-braided, top-poofed monstrosity of a hairdo – along with the tackiest dress and jewelry she could find – as a way to direct attention away from her bestie Teresa. And by God it almost worked! The only problem was I had to avert my eyes from the horror and swung right back to Teresa’s gold lame. (And it’s a lucky thing Teresa’s stylist put tons of gel control on that hair. I was waiting for her locks to transform into hissing snakes and everyone but Andy and Dina to immediately turn into stone.)
Funny. When I saw Teresa’s hair, that’s the 1st thing I thought of. Hissing snakes.
omg I actually LOVED Dina’s look!!! <3 She reminded me of the fake glamorized version of the gypsy. Very costume-y and sort of couture. Of course, this is a RH reunion, so the more ridiculous looking, the better.
Was a full length mirror not available in Dina’s dressing room? That she was wearing Morticia’s dress was ghastly enough, but being a spritz or two of hair spray away from Elsa Lancaster’s hair in Bride of Frankenstein put the entire look in the category of WTF!
I’ve never cared for Dina at all, but it seems her entire purpose this season was to play the part of Teresa’s sycophant. I hope Bravo paid her well for making such a fool of herself.
It seems that Teresa’s delusions of grandeur have slipped over into psychosis. If no one speaks of her criminality then it doesn’t exist. If she doesn’t acknowledge someone’s presence, then they aren’t really there. I think she truly believes that she has done no wrong, EVER. With people around her speaking in euphemisms of “mistakes” and fawning over her saying how good and strong she is, she will continue to fancy herself as some sort of luminary upon whom a great tragedy has befallen.
Shannah . . . For being on a ‘reality’ show, Teresa definitely doesn’t do well with reality. During the reunion I lost count of the number of times she refused to look at someone or turned away while others were talking or closed her eyes hoping when they opened that those around her would magically disappear.
She sat there pouting like a child (a rude, obnoxious, overindulged child), ready to throw (another) tantrum. Even when the topic had nothing to do with her, her disdain for everyone (but Dina) was obvious. And like a child, living her life in a fairytale, she thinks if she doesn’t know the meaning of things, they don’t count (i.e. “below the belt”, “plea deal”, “crime doesn’t pay”).
If you listen really hard, you can almost hear her saying “la-la-la-la-la” in her head. Warning: Do NOT attempt to go there. It’s effin’ scary.
I think that Bravo should add a pt 4 to this reunion. Make a video montage of all the times Teresa hit under the belt at all the cast mates.
Add a part 4 or another season. (At least a mini one)☺
I just bit the bullet and watched again, because I couldn’t see Caroline not inviting her parents to Laurens engagement. Dina said she and Lexi were not invited, then went on to say “you can hurt me, but not my kid or parents”. So imo, she wasn’t saying the parents were left out. She was just stating who she was protective of. Hope I’m right.
That is how I understood it also.
Caroline is hard core. If true, how can you not invite your parents?? Wow. What happened to her “fambly” being thick as thieves.
I feel bad for Dina’s mom, Nettie. After WWHL, her mom tweeted time to take her medication and that she will take a double dose. Sounded like heart attack medication.
I noticed how good Joe Giudice looked as well. It took me a little bit by surprise. He looked healthy and a few years younger. And like maybe he’s had a facial or two. Starkly different than from his interviews only 3 days before so not much could have happened in that amount of time.
Juicy hasn’t looked as well ever before last night. I attribute it to pre-prison worry weight loss, (and maybe a facial or two). He should be downright svelte by the time he reports to do time. He might even be the belle of the ball there.
What Teresa doesn’t seem to understand is that if she were to just admit to her wrong doings it would release her from so much bondage and anger. Of course that would mean humbling herself and that won’t happen until she goes to prison. Sad! Nice house…no furniture!
When is Teresa going to crack? She already has, she took out her rage on her publicist, but I predict mostly she will crack behind bars. Those mentally ill prisoners will be pushing her buttons the second she gets there. They did the same thing to Martha Stewart. Teresa has more of a hair trigger temper. She was wound so tight here it was uncomfortable to watch.
What a culture these people have. You can’t ever mention the truth about the fraudulent family finances or the table will be flipped at you, or any of the secrets about the family. Then the family are disloyal if they say ANYTHING about what has been on the news for months. Teresa just wants her family members zipped at all costs.
I suspect that off camera a family agreement was made, or requested, probably by the elder Gorga’s and/or Guidice’s, or in honor of them. Probably some recommendations were made by attorneys as well. Teresa and Joe’s legal issues were not to be discussed among them or with any others on camera. I would guess after several years of family members sniping at each other, family troubles are to stop being doled out for public consumption. I think Joe Gorga and Teresa, with their spouses, agreed to it. Kathy and Melissa have an obvious distaste for not running their mouths. A good effort was made at being silent and why they act so different this season. Teresa is the self appointed enforcer. You can tell the other two are busting a gut to not blast Teresa.
Angel, I guess I just disagree with those of you who think that the stars of a long running “reality” show have the right to have their prosecution by the FEDS, not the local yokels, charged, tried, and convicted and not discussed. I had a brother who liked to “drink a bit”. The whole family from north Ga. to south Ga. talked about his problems and he was never offended. How is this not fair game with Tre? Heck, I think that she thinks the feds were just plain hateful.
@ Angel: I think you are right. Perhaps the family has shut the talk down. To assume that Teresa is not cognizant of crimes at this point is silly. I’m sure she’s entirely embarassed. Her punishment has been set at this point, and it’s not up to the public to assess an additional punitive sentence at this point. There are children to consider. I would never want anyone saying terrible things about me, without knowing me, where my children could read them (forever).
Dina tried to costume herself as some sort of ancient goddess? Tacky. And,btw, I think she’s a big liar just like Tre (just a little smarter).
Tamara, just a quick note to tell you how heartily I enjoyed your recap. You do have quite the talent for witty, lively yet concise pacing. A joy to read. Thank you and Cheers.
I’m off to consume some red wine now because, me. Blessings …
I agree Tamara, I can’t get to your blog right away, I might be a day or two behind. But you’re thorough, quick, and perceptive with a great delivery!
Thanks! I enjoy chatting with you guys about the shows. 🙂
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thanks. This one took two hours because of all the conversations to type out. I didn’t think there was much interesting to it. It felt like transcribing. 🙂 Glad to know it was an ok read.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh, did anyone else think that Melissa was doing her best Kim Kardashian look? The white dress, heavy eyelashes, and the high ponytail? So Kim to me.
I did think that she was very understated but didn’t see the Kim look until you said it. 🙂
I didn’t see that either.
Thanks for another great recap TT. Twitter sure was abuzz last night (fireworks & claws). So glad you mentioned 1 of my favorite moments →
“I found a penny”. Wonder if Andy planted it there? Only problem, it’s commonsense she needs not cents. Smarten up Andy.
I don’t ever recall seeing so much eye rolling & alternating from mouths agape to closed (& biting tongues). They probably needed those extra long commercial breaks to get their eyes back into place & Bravo medics to stitch their tongues.
Next week should be interesting when Teresa says she had no clue what a “plea deal” is. As others have said — she’s sly as a fox. Ironic how her & Joe can falsify employment records, (including W-2’s), scam banks, various creditors, & the government for 13yrs but she doesn’t understand a “plea deal”. I think she believes if she says she doesn’t know what it means, it doesn’t count! Kind of like “hitting below the belt”. ☺
LOL that was my favorite part too.
Teresa was SO stoked to find that penny and throw it in the “KOLLEGE KOIN JAR” she couldn’t even hide it.
Rest assured that penny didn’t go into the “KOLLEGE KOIN JAR” but instead towards more lucrative ventures (including music videos)☺
Melissa/Kathy challenging Dina about family values was the highlight of the this episode. Let’s not forget, they came onto the show with the objective of DESTROYING their sister/cousin. I feel so bad for Dina. Shame on Bravo for giving Teresa’s family an overall saintly edit when they deserve so much more crap than they get.
It wasn’t fair, because Dina would have LAID into them if Teresa wasn’t in such a fragile state. Thank God she isn’t as malicious and fame hungry as Kathy/Melissa and refuses to make her family issues a story line on a trashy reality tv show.
. Wow…what show are you watching? How do you know why they came on the show???? These shows pay relatively well, as opposed to a job in the community. Filming for a couple of months for somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000 to $80,000k maybe they initially came on the show for a nice payday. I think you also give zero thought to just how much production sets up and meddles in how things are filmed. For instance, they (production) probably found out that the “family” had issues. After seeing where Teresa can go when she is pissed (first season table flip) maybe they fanned the flames of some of the confrontations. Tre has said over and over that she was never informed by production that they hired her family. You don’t find that odd? I think there are a lot more variables in play here. Just because Teresa says it does not make it true. For instance, she constantly says people are jealous of her why???? What does she have that is enviable, to anyone? NOTHING!
@Lawstangel
I’m watching the same show where Teresa didn’t know her SIL and cousin were hired until the DAY OF THE CHRISTENING. Remember how that turned out? Who started that fight? Did you read Melissa/Kathy’s blogs those first three episodes? I dare you to go back and read them. You don’t need Teresa to tell you that them coming onto the show was purely for them to have a storyline to bash her. They do a good job telling you that themselves.
You’re right, it pays a lot. I get the incentive. I really do. Teresa has been the villain for several seasons SINCE they showed up and rightfully so. However, I’m also saying that Melissa and Kathy are even more disgusting, because Teresa didn’t go out of her way to destroy them until after they ambushed her. They knew how this show worked and they KNEW their issues with Tre would be manipulated. They aren’t dumbasses.
@J.D. you’re like my separated at birth twin. I always agree with your level headed reasoning. 😀
NO, no you do not. JD is the village idiot. He’s our village idiot, but an idiot none the less. You do not agree with him. You are confused.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@Micheal <3 <3 <3
J.D. (@JaMailMail) . . . I do believe the only one that has ever said that Melissa & Kathy’s objective for coming on the show to “DESTROY” Teresa → was Teresa. If you find it so easy to lie to banks, creditors, & the federal government, lying to everyone else is a piece of cake. Court documents (discussed here in detail in TT’s archives) prove her & Joe have been lying for (at least) 13yrs.
And you’re correct – “Thank God Dina isn’t as malicious & fame hungry as Kathy/Melissa” & avoids those “trashy reality” shows. She would NEVER.
Oops, never mind! From schlepping herself on My Fabulous Wedding / Dina’s Party / Celebrities at Home / RHONJ / & multitude of other shows & appearances, (also public videos / blogs / etc., etc.) → Ms. Dina’s clearly “fame hungry”. Nothing wrong with that, but let’s call it like it is.
ETA: Ms. Dina detests drama & is so NOT into “trashy reality TV” that she came back to RHONJ for more. Guess she thought if she prayed hard enough at her altar – Bravo would give her a “saintly edit” & she could pray the all the drama away. Either that or she’s just “fame hungry” (ie a famewhore).
@Sarah You failed to actually argue any of my points. You’re right, Dina is fame hungry. However where you’re wrong is insinuating that she’s at the same level as Melisa/Kathy/Jac. Those 3 people have thrown their families under the bus on national television when Tre/Dina asked for it to be kept private. Duh, they’re on a tv show, but if your family asks you to keep something private, you respect their wishes (see Ramona faking her marriage even though there had been issues all throughout the season).
Dina has never take low blows at her family EVEN WITH producers manipulating her scenes and prodding her every chance they got. Dina has rightfully had it with Jac and is finally sticking up for herself. Where is all this damaging evidence Jac has on Dina that she’s been THREATENING to release for years now over twitter?????????
Dina is FOS. I for one am not surprised she is leaving. I am surprised she stayed the whole season. Teresa never changes. That she is on a reality show but doesn’t want anyone to talk about her legal issues, sentencing, etc is just plain stupid. I am quite sure her lawyers explained in detail that the judge does NOT have to accept the prosecutors recommendations. After stonewalling and lying on their financials, Teresa is lucky she only got 15 mos.
I got a different impression from Tre when it came time for the men to come out. I do believe she is pissed at Melissa and Kathy not just for talking about her legal situation on the show but STILL for coming on when they were in somewhat of a family fued. I would love to know the rift between Tre’s dad and Kathy’s mom bc I think that has a LOT to do with why Tre doesn’t like them-taking her dad’s side.
When the men came out, I thought Teresa was trying not to cry. And having her brother out there, his voice breaking, saying I love you, he is my brother not my brother in law, and she doesn’t make eye contact bc it will break her down. Reminds me of Scarlett O Hara and all that “I won’t think about that now, I’ll think about that tomorrow.”
Really? Because I got the impression she was really pissed at her brother. Especially when she turned around and said, “Yeah, we know” or whatever when he was telling them he loved them.
We’ll have to pay more attention to that dynamic on THURSDAY when for some reason part 2 will be on. You know on SHONDALAND THURSDAY! Yep we’re going to have conflict for the next two Thursdays. I really think this will hurt RHONJ ratings. Shonda owns Thursday nights now. End of story.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I have family I only see at family functions. I am not close with all my cousins. We see each other, are cordial and go our seperate ways. Why must Dina be forced to have a relationship with Jacqueline? Why is Caro packaged with Jac & Chris?
Why couldnt they have gone to Lexi’s party & smiled and wished her the best and that is the end of it. Jac said she invited Dina and Lexi to dinner instead. Why?? You know she does not want to be friends with you so why on God’s green earth would she want to have dinner with you?
Lexi would probably feel funny at the dinner alone with Jac & Chris however, she would have probably went if it was just her & Chris. Why are the kids involved? Why doesnt Chris take Nick to meet Dina? Stupidest bullshit ever!
Ok, I am totally confused about Amber and The Cancer. She was stage ONE? And had a double mastectomy for stage ONE? How the hell did they remove both breasts from the BACK…creating “angel wings”?
Aside from that, Tre is in lala land. How can she expect to attend a birthday party in February if she reports in January? Does she think she will get a hall pass or something? And I saw a preview of Thursday’s reunion (part 2), where Andy says people are calling her a criminal….and she responds with shock. Really?
TT, any thruth about the Lauritas possibly headed back to court for the bankruptcy and a possible trial? Dont believe it until I see it here ☺
The case is ongoing because there is more than one litigant. I think one settled but the rest have not. I am not following that case very closely because I can’t stand the way their lawyer writes briefs.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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