Andy Cohen is busting his buttons over his kitchen table talk deal with Bethenney Frankel this past summer. Clearly, he made it worth her while to come back and try to save the half-dead RHONY. But RHONY has been filming for awhile and there have been no sightings of her filming.
What’s the problem?
Apparently, it’s Jason Hoppy. I’m hearing the real reason that Andy and Bethenny cooked up this little deal and kept it a secret was Bethenny’s divorce. It seems that 50/50 custody has finally been agreed to. we were in the homestretch and everyone was moving forward. Things are more amicable.
And then Jason found out about Bethenny going back on RHONY. He has two issues. Brynn being filmed for reality TV again (which seems ridiculous, he allowed it all the other times) and a new very lucrative income stream for Bethenny. In a 50/50 custody split (which Bethenny fought tooth and nail) the kid has to have the same level of luxury in both homes. If Bethenny gets a new level of income, she will probably have to shell out child support to Jason. That will likely increase now. Which is the real reason this was all on the hush, hush anyway.
I am gonna guess that Jason will allow Bryn to be filmed if and only if he gets a child support increase based on her salary. He would probably get it anyway, so I expect Bethenny to agree. But supposedly, they are going back to court to hash things out. AGAIN. These are just things blowing in the wind.. I am not aware of any actual court dates. I really can’t imagine Jason being concerned about filming at this point.
I can only imagine how Andy pitched this deal to Bethenny. Why would this benefit her in any way?
She gets to keep her bulldog face on TV??
Yep…it is ALL about feeding her ego….it is her top priority. This is what happens when these reality folks sell their souls for fame. Then they have enough nerve to call us folks on social media haters and cowards if we say anything about then that they don’t like.
Doubt they will ever learn or realize the joke is on them.
TT, do I get 6.9 mil for commenting on this post? 🙂
I vote for 6.9 TT tokens for the comment. Then negative 7 TT tokens for asking for them. 😉
If Teresa with her criminal conviction and time in jail is already plotting to keep her mugshot on TV, then I don’t think any of the other HW can be judge too harshly for it, don’t you think?
You have some information that has not been introduced here about Teresa Guidice “plotting” something?
And what YOU think about how someone can be judged doesn’t matter for shit. In your dumbass world, one person being a bigger asshole than the next reprieves (look it up) the lesser asshole from all assholishness. Ain’t.
And yes. I’m a bigger asshole than you, but your still an asshole.
Cartwheels, this statement makes no sense to me. How HW’s are judged has nothing to do with Teresa (a housewife) and what happens to her life. We pretty much judge each housewife on their own individual fucked-up-ness.
And her bull dog legs!
This does put a pin in all the Bethenny haters and Jason lovers. Jason will be ok with filming/exploiting his child as long as he gets his cut. 🙂
A+ parenting at work here.
If Jason were a woman he’d be slammed for gold-digging.
There is a rumor that someone else is coming back…
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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No! TT please. Say it isn’t so! No zarin please! :*(
Oh and @pdt090 I agree completely.
Is it koo-koo Kelly Bensimon from Scary Island, eating jelly beans, and rambling on about satchels of gold and Al Sharpton? Wonder what in the hell Kelly HAD in those jelly beans?!
I’d be 100% ok with Kelly v Bethenney round 2. As long as Kelly come back with the big fake horse statue.
What did Jason do anyway? He made sure that the factory producing skinnygirl was running smoothly or something which Bethenney could have hired a consultant to do for a salary.
Stupid girl hired gold digging Jason who wants now wants MILLIONS. For what…3 yrs of marriage…skinnygirl cocktails?? That is probably why Bethenney fought for primary custody. She didnt want to keep the kid from him, she just didnt want to have to pay him millions, pay him alimony, future earnings etc. Rumor is he is still trying to get a bigger settlement and is dragging it out.
I would be okay with Kelly too. One thing is for sure, she won’t be able to say she is “up here” and Bethenney is “down there” anymore. Time has changed a whole lot of things…
It was such a relief when Zarin departed. She was unbearable like the Jersey twins. Being on TV went straight to her head like Nene. And Kelly was another dumbfest and I think she is truly crazy. Those are the only two I could imagine.
I don’t think you grasp the meaning of putting a pin in something.
I wasn’t using the ‘put a pin in it’ as an idiom for evasion. I meant that Jason’s actions have deflated (like a pin into a balloon) any notion that he is the ‘good guy’ in this situation. Like burst the bubble of people who idealize Jason and hate Bethenney in their situation. I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. It does seem others understood my meaning however.
I’m just not sure what Jason has done to deserve anyone’s wrath. Any sins he has he as more than paid for by being tied for life to Bethenny.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@TT
I dont mind Jason personally. If anything they are both as money hungry as each other. People think that one or the other can take a moral highground position and I don’t. I don’t think either deserve any wrath. They got married, it didn’t work out. On the face of it they both appear to care about their daughter and spend a lot of time with her which is great. Neither are a criminal (yet). So I don’t see why people are so vitriolic about either of them.
How exactly is Jason money hungry. His entire storyline was about keeping the job he had and earning his living in his chosen field. Bethenny dragged him kicking and screaming into her businesses and he is therefore entitled to half the income of the business they worked on together. It became a marital business when she dragged him into it.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Totally agree with Michael’s comment. Jason strikes me as a guy who is now scrounging around in his jeans. Find your balls yet Jason? Trying to squeeze more cash out of Bethenny will not make them reappear dude!
Did you even watch the show? Jason wanted NO PART of the Skinny Girl crap. Bethenny deballed him and had him driving cars wrapped in Skinny girl ads.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Short of using a knife, I don’t agree that a woman can “de-ball” a man without his consent (insert Eleanor Roosevelt quote here about nobodies and inferiority and consent). IF he is looking for more cash from Bethenny as a means of reclaiming those de-balled balls, I’m just saying that’s not the way to go about it. Now excuse me why I go use my melon baller on a nice ripe cantalope! 🙂
A+ golddigging, if you ask me. Jason is not the innocent sweet man he pretends to be, I don’t believe it for a second!
If anything they are as bad as each other.
I ask what is your source regarding your assertion that “Jason is not the innocent sweet man he pretends to be, I don’t believe it for a second!” ? Is that what you WANT to believe in a frankly sad attempt to rationalize your baseless, arguably your irrational (borderline delusional) beliefs that Frankel, is an innocent poor little rich girl, who fell victim to big bag wolf Hoppy? (Or might Hoppy not be a “gold digging” so and so if he sported a vagina?)
Now, recalling what actually ocurred, you know, in reality, factual; Hoppy first insisted on retaining his job and earning an income from a source other than Frankel. Of course, Frankel would not have it; her way or the highway.
Put marital discord away. Frankel badgered Hoppy to work for her until she broke Hoppy down, BUT he stridently stipulated that they agree that he would work WITH Frankel. Hoppy would agree to PARTNER with her. Frankel agreed. Deal struck. So, since the marriage tanked making it impossible for the two of them to work together, Hoppy is ENTITLED to a partner’s buy-out share AND half the income he/Bethenny made, and half of their marital assets they accumulated over the course of their horrific partnering at Frankel’s insistence. If necessary, Frankel needs to man up to pay up. Equality.
He paid his dues living with that neurotic shrew. I just feel bad for Brywn who is the little pawn and has her for a mom.
Ego. Once they get a taste of fame, they want that more than the money. It’s like she keeps or continues to elevate her status above them all. Now won’t she. Jeez, I just thought about watching it again. I’ll tune in just to see what she’s bringing but that last crew was insufferable. I couldn’t even pay attention to the reunion.
I kind of wish we could see the dynamic between Aviva and Bethenney this season. It should be enough to see how she handles the new ladies to keep me entertained however. I bet Jill is pissed!!
Aviva and Bethenny are (or were) friends. Supposedly, it was Bethenny’s recommendation that got Aviva cast in the first place. I don’t think Bethenny would have put up with Aviva’s antics, though, had she been on the show last season.
Heather did a great job of telling off Aviva, but I would love to have seen what Bethenny would have done. Considering how she went in on Kelly on Scary Island and at the reunion, her going in on Aviva would have been poetic!
It almost makes me wish Aviva were coming back. (Not really)
I have a feeling that Bethenney and Carole may not get along. No real basis for that theory though.
O hell. Bethenny doesn’t have time for a kid. Bryn is just a small part of mommy’s act. She’s older now and should not be filmed. Her time with mommy-dearest will be circus enough.
That’s a cruel thing to say about any mother about her child. Bethany might have problems, but I do believe she truly loves Bryn. Jason wants, and wants, more, and more. Now he has plenty of money and doesn’t do crap for it. He played Bethany. Even on the boat with the doctor, he was saying stupid things just to upset her and then laugh about it. He knew how to push her buttons and he did it. ALL he wants is her money. The grandparents want the child, that’s why Jason is pushing so hard. Jason is all about the MONEY and nothing else.
None of us know any of the facts of the relationship. Bethanny loves being on TV and let’s see how much she is willing to forfeit to stay on it.
No one knows whats really happening… but I think Jason actually doesn’t want his daughter on TV… when they were on they were a COUPLE and supposedly “in love”… but there is such a negative vibe between them and she actually can’t shut the heck up and spews negative stories re: him never thinking her daughter will grow up and read this crap… so I can see why he’d be against her being in the spot light.. God knows what is going on .. I feel sorry for Bryn.. I personally think the only stable people in her life are her grandparents and Jason..
Ok people, just to let everyone know, I love Bethenny! I’m sorry if this offends anyone but there it is! I did not like the way Jason treated Bethenny on the last season of their show. I know exactly what type of ass-hole mind games he was playing with her. It would take me to long to explain, but she and I have similar childhood issues which is why I get her. Jason is a frigging money whore! Really you don’t want Brinn on TV? If I was a judge I would laugh him out of court! Hello that kid was basically born on TV. It’s all about extra cash for him. Little prick.
Ok so I too am a B fan. I didn’t bother with her show much as it wasn’t shown in Australia too regularly at the time so I didn’t watch her husband be a dick. It wouldn’t surprise me though. I hope she resurrects RHNY back to its former glory.
Preach, Angel! I know the type too. He did a heck of a negative PR campaign on her that worked quite well….
Angel,
I TOTALLY agree with you! That was a main point of contention with Bethenny. She knew Jason was an asshat. It drove her crazy people thought he was so great.
Not a huge Bethenny fan, but Jason is definitely a self-entitled bitch.
All these reality kids are going to be screwed up.
I feel like you are the only one that gets it! I 100% agree with you!
Absolutely, Jason is the perfect passive aggresive asshole who throws the stone and hides the hand and then acts like the perfect innocent good boy. he knew how to get her going behind cameras and then played his act on cameras. The crap he pulled during the divorce by refusing to flush the toilet and walking half naked in front of the camera crews that were interviewing Bethenny, just shows that he only played a charcacter in fornt of the cameras.
are these anecdotal stories things you make up in your head or do you subscribe to the National Inquirer or something?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Lol
You know exactly what?
Are you for real? TAmara it was in the custody depositions just before they settled the custody issue, it is in several media outlets but I am sure I am not allowed to post links. Why would I be making this up when it can easily be searched online
Yikes! What’s next for “the frigging money whore”, with “his asshole mind games”? Forty whacks with an axe?
Slow, deliberate, deep cleansing breaths, Angel.
I don’t know you and you don’t know me. Pleas remember that in my original comment I said it would be too long to go into, but …..:). I’m going to assume that you have never been in a position where, as a child, one parent doesn’t want to have anything to do with you b/c of the other parent or other parents new partner. Your second parent is more consumed with their life than your well being. Now what do you think that does to your sense of trust and self esteem? Finally you decide to pull the trigger get married and have a child with someone and you want, or your inner child wants, the happily ever after. The guy you pick is by all accounts the nice all American guy with the Christmas card family. You decide that since you’re committed to the relationship you tell him about your insecurities and all the hurt you felt. Then when your relationship hits a rough patch, he starts throwing passive aggressive digs at you, that may seem rather harmless to others, but both you and he know how much the comments cut you to the bone. That’s what I saw with Jason’s “ass-hole mind games”! Comments like “you’re the broken one” etc. By the way, once this bull shit starts the relationship is kinda doomed. As far as the money goes, how many times did Jason say that Skinny Girl was Bethenney’s thing? Jason is using the money as a way of hurting her because of insecurities regarding financial security. Sorry but that’s how I see it.
WOW. You are projecting your whole life onto Bethenny Frankel. That’s insane.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oops, I meant Bethenney has financially insecurities because of her childhood with her mom. 🙂
Also Tasos, LMAO, I said I love Bethenney! I will defend her just as passionately as Kenya Moore fans defend her!! Yikes that’s scary! 😉
Tamara when have I ever claimed to be sane? Lol, sorry I’m sane but perhaps obsessed or possessed or both! 😉
I always liked Alex and Simon myself, especially Simon. Now their kids were an entirely different matter, but I would get a kick out of them coming back. Ain’t gonna happen though. I think talking about Bethenney is making me nostalgic for the kinder, gentler days before the HW became so mean and violent.
Stop making me agree with you! I preferred the days when we hated each other so. 🙂
lololol….it’s so much better when we can agree though 😉
I know right? Friends forever? 😀
Deal !!!
Micheal, Alex and Simon are moving back tAustralia. Mine they can get a reality show going there.
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@Deco
I’m surprised they haven’t tried to get onto the RHofMelbourne. I’ll keep an eye out if they try to buy the apartment on sale down the hall from me lol.
I loved Alex and Simon. I want to see their kids have a playdate with Milania at Ramona’s house in the Hamptons.
Yeah I actually like her as well. I think her entire divorce bullshit and negative publicity that it created just made a lot of people dislike her. Maybe she thinks if she comes back she can undo all that and change peoples perception of her. Well if I was Andy, thats what I would be selling her to get her back on the show.
For a minute there that made sense. Seriously. Bethenny does need to rehab her image.
But then I remembered we’re talking about a housewives show. Let’s try to think of one housewife that going on the show actually helped.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Shannon?
Lori that is a good answer.
Of course, we’ll have to check back with her after her second season.
Wow. There are people who still like Bethenny? Who knew?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> For a minute there that made sense. Seriously. Bethenny does need to > rehab her image. > > But then I remembered we’re talking about a housewives show. Let’s try to > think of one housewife that going on the show actually helped. > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
Bethenny actually benefited from RHONY. Helped brand Skinny Girl .
I don’t think having Bryn on will be part of her story line. Jason didn’t want her on TV when they separated and I don’t think she ever had her on her talk show.
Bravo needs B back to get the show moving again. Bryn won’t help that. If you read JZs tweets,Her quotes give u some insight into how she’s feeling. I think she’s hurt she wasn’t considered for the next season.
I want to see Bethany show up for a housewives’ do in the Hello Kitty pajamas. I am still amazed at how people can be madly in love, get married, have a child, grow to hate each other in under 5 years and proceed to use the child as a weapon against the person they used to love best.
You gotta have a license to get married, drive, practice a profession (plus CEUs). Why not one to be a parent?
As ditzy as Sonia is, I respect her for keeping her daughter off RHONY.
Sonja didn’t choose to keep her kid off TV, you moron. I’m quite sure her ex husband wouldn’t consent. DUH.
@Gingersnap – I wouldn’t mind Alex and Simon coming back either. But please no Kelly or even worse Jill. Talk about “drinking the kool-aid, Jill had
Bobby buy her a pool full of it so she could just swim around in it!
He doesnt want to settle. He always wanted alimony so he can continue to go back to court to ask for a piece of whatever income she manages to get.
She built her dream apt and he made sure to drive her out of it so he could have it. The great guy that he pretends to be would have taken a settlement and gotten his OWN place. She will have that douchebag breathing down her neck for the next 18 yrs competing with her for Brynn’s love and affection.
Jason is a douchebag. I also like Bethenny, she is a scrapper and created an empire from her own hard work. She is also honest about her problems and past.
As other have said it would be entertaining to see some or all of the orginals back together.
I also think that Andy and Bethenny LOVE tormenting Jill.
I would being Jill back, let her think its because her fans miss her and people love her, like her delusional self believes.
Put them all back on the yacht, back to the island. My dream show would be Kelly kidnapped by pirates. A big fight between Bethenny and Jill.
Bethenny takes Aviva’s prostetic leg and whacks Jill. Jill falls overboard, using the leg as a floatation device. A big shark comes up behind Jill, as she is screaming for Baaawby.
The shark takes a bite of Jill, then spits it out, clearly grossed out. Jill is lost at sea and the leg washes up on shore a couple of weeks later.
LOL, that would be fantastic.
Eve, I enjoyed your story, it made me chuckle!
You people are fucking retarded.
I liked Bethenny just as much as the next person. I don’t agree with all of the Jason bashing- he had a job which B bagged him to quit to help her with Skinny Girl, then fought with him on every decision he tried to make. No, his job didn’t make as much money as Skinny Girl but some of y’all act like he married her for her money. If she had all those millions before they married, she should have demanded a prenup. I believe the majority of the money was made during the marriage. As entertaining as B is on our tv an hour every week, imagine living in that chaos and disfunction All. The. Time.
Hmmm, I am wondering how much Bethenney is worth now. Lets say she got 100 million for Skinnygirl that would still mean 40 million in taxes so she would be down to 60 due to Uncle Sam.
She would need to pay an acct, business managers, money mgrs, asst etc. She was trying to develop other skinnygirl items which I would think would require product development co help, focus groups, advertising etc. She bought the apt that Jason forced her out of for 5 million. Cost for where she is living. Paying her lawyers and Jason’s lawyers to continue to sue her.
I wonder how much she really has left…50 mil?? ahhh, rich people problems. Anyone know what Jason wants?? Ive heard as high as $25m. If so, I can understand her fighting. If not and she litterally has 100 million, why not give him 25 to get the hell outta your life??
She had a partner, she had to split the 100M minus taxes , like you said probably 60 at the end between her and her partner so probably something close to 25 to 30M ,
She had or has lawsuits so further reductions.
As I have stated previously, I would not be surprised to see Kelley Besimone return as LuAnn’s friend during the season at some party or dinner. LuAnn wants Ramona and Bethenny to get their comeuppance after they questioned her marriage/divorce on air. She will have plenty to say about the state of each of their marriages as the season progresses. I believe Jill Zarin may return at the very end of the season at Bethenny’s invitation to make up and gain high ratings. I do not expect to see Alex return because there were issues between Simon and Jill, and Bravo could not contain the vitriol between them. Ramona will most likely pop in and out of the show at her own free reign because she does not want to air her divorce from Mario. Andy loves her, so production will give her what she wants. I expect Heather, Kristen, and Carole to return along with Sonya, but Sonya will not really be attached to any of the other women if Ramona is not there. Aviva will not be back, no exceptions.
I am not on the let’s dog out Jason Hoppy train, so sue me. I believe he truly loves their daughter, but is angry because he got sucked into Bethenny’s loser- to -winner tear jerker novella starring Bethenny Frankel. Jason was in finance and has lost his professional credibility and personal reputation by allowing himself to get sucked into Bethenny’s reality tv world. He seemed to love Bethenny, but she would emasculate him to no end regardless of where they were or who they were with. Getting married and having a child were on her to do list, and he lost his usefulness once she had their daughter. He gave up his life to help her pursue her goals, and she tried to leave him high and dry. He finally got a clue that he was simply her sperm donor and a guest star who helped move her story along. Once he stood his ground against her, she was caught off guard and realized she had under estimated him. She never expected him to fight her back or not lie down and die like road kill. I’m sure her previous boyfriend from season one, who was also in finance and allegedly was fired after appearing on the show, is somewhere off in the sunset living happy as a clam because he dodged the bullet and predictable dramatic doom with Bethenny.
Loved your post, especially the second paragraph, which is spot on how I see the unhappy Hoppy’s. Jason has a backbone that Bethenny didn’t expect or anticipate. In a way, I feel bad for the whole clusterf*ck, but I really felt bad for Jason’s parents, who seemed like the nicest folks in the world.
@Gingersnap- I totally agree with you. I have sympathy for Bryn and I believe both of her parents love her. However, Bethenny seems to look at Bryn more like a possession instead of a person who needs both of her parents. My heart aches for Jason’s parents who are family oriented people and collateral damage in the Hoppys’ war of the roses over Bryn. We just have to look at Bethenny to imagine how Bryn’s life may unfold if the bitter fighting continues. God protects angels and fools, so I hope he continues to look over Bryn.
Backbone? More like boner.
It’s like you don’t know any couples where the wife out earns the husband. It happens sometimes you know…
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I know one! {raises hand} But my husband still has his balls, and I still enjoy the benefits he offers. (I will admit that not having kids helped a lot!)
Clearly your husband is a gold digger.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m going to venture a guess (even if it means TeeCee will be all over me for it). I’m going to guess that Jason was never comfortable with being the low-earner in the relationship. I’m going to guess that he did not feel entirely comfortable in his role in the relationship because his parents probably contributed to his belief system and what I suspect were fairly traditional beliefs (wife pregnant, silent and submissive; husband being the wage or salary earner, calls the shots, and dominant in all decision-making). He never struck me as a guy who was comfortable being with a confident, high-earning, dare I say dominant woman. I would guess that his self-esteem was riding on another deal and he didn’t sign on to the “bargain” (notice words in quotes here) that marriage to Bethenny was offering or required of him.
You get a bit wonky there at the end, but if you had watched this show involving the people you claim to know so much about, you would know that was exactly Jason’s belief system. A topic discussed several times on the show.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I actually know a guy like that in real life. He will turn down dates from capable intelligent successful women to date a ‘damsel in distress’ who asks for a loan 2 months into the relationship and wants to get married merely for financial security. How can people find that attractive?
People may think I’m the submissive one in my relationship as I’m the introvert, but if anything I run things so well I don’t need to be the extrovert. 🙂
Amazing how people can watch the same show and have completely different opinions. Bottom line – they didn’t really know each other when they got married. And it got nasty on both sides. No one made Jason do anything he didn’t want to. They both love Bryn. I find Jason a little hypocritical. I remember Bethenny asking Jason to come on board with her and how he was saying that it was her passion and he didn’t know what his was. But who knows, because in the reality world, nothing is as it seems.
Yeah, the saying is, perception is reality, and I suppose it is.
I think both are as bad as each other. They both probably had a hand in their failed marriage and how it got a bit dirty towards the end. I’m just glad that it appears both prioritise their time with their daughter. In a weird way they both probably deserve each other.
I totally agree with all of you.
“… Why would this benefit her in any way?”
Since Bethenny knows no shame and boundaries, she would benefit from her return to television for the sake of promoting her various product lines, in which she could wear her alleged ripoff version of ‘spanx’, discuss all of her product(s) in scenes in which she is consulting with various business agents, product promo reps, product manufacturer(s), and/or retailer’s, or as she travels for book signings, product launching tours, etc. She could also have products laying around her flat, or promote them by making them gifts to other RHs.
Bethenny’s return could represent possible millions in product promotion dollars savings, which she may otherwise have had to spend if she DID NOT return to RHONY. She may arguably benefit from promotion dollar savings as a result of her return to RH, possibly saving beyond what BRAVO may pay her. Depending on what Bavo might permit, Bethenny may still count herself ahead even if she might not collect a single flat dime from BRAVO.
(I could not possibly care any less about/for Bethenny. I can barely tolerate (with effort) the sight or sound of her. Like probable millions of others, I was a big fan of hers until I saw how badly she treated Jason Hoppy. She abused him, contrary even to her shrink’s advice, and in spite of numerous instances of her shrink practically pleading of Bethenny to cease or initiate what he’d suggest to somehow salvage their relationship, eventually just enough to at very least bring it to civility. It became obvious to BF’s shrink that she was so mentally sick, disrespectful of boundaries and limits, and vengeful enough to stress and push, push, push and ruin their marriage so severely that the only possible option to take would be divorce. Hoppy fully deserves every dime and custodial preference that he seeks. Hell, if Pulitzers were issued for tolerance of sick and and conciously nasty spouses, Hoppy at least would be a serious nominee.)
Okay Jason (or Jason’s mom). LOL
Just curious, Bethanny “allegedly” ripped off spank, but Heather Thomas (Yummy Tummy), and Jill Zarin (Squeeze or whatever it’s name is) didn’t?
“Spanx”
That was a good read. Very informative.
Frankly, I was shocked when toxic Bethanny announced she was getting married. I seriously wondered about Jason and what taking on an openly neurotic, nut case says about him. I always believed she would eat him alive and he would run away screaming like someone from a burning building. Being in a relationship with someone like Bethanny can only be an edgy thrill ride to hell. At best, they produced a beautiful child who may grow into a healthy adult; at worse, a neurotic by nurture.
So what if he’s a gold digger. He earned it. Can you IMAGIE having sex with that shrew???? Ugh. the whining and bossiness. I don’t think she actually likes men. Or anyone.
You would know. BAAAHAAAAAA
I would know what?
Bethenny was beyond annoying. She is a looney tune and so fake. That’s true that she needs to rehab her image. I was not a fan. I was team Kelly.
Well, I promise you were the only one on THAT team.
Bethany & Kim Zolciak remind me of each other when it comes to family – they don’t value family because it’s not perfect. You can’t hire a make-up artist to fix every little family flaw or botox them! however, you can forgive the flaws & move on.
No one comes into this world with a perfect anything, it’s all about building a life & some have it worst than others & if that’s your situation, get some therapy, move pass the past & help someone along the way. But if you’ve got your head stuck up you’re a$$ like Bethany & Kim it explains why your life stinks BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS! Family, marriage & children all require work, love, un-selfishness but most of all forgiveness. Some people need to grow up & just stop getting married until they do!
I have no children of my own but loved my parents & both sets of grandparents; I really miss them; all the hugs, kisses, holidays, stories, wisdom,cakes, pies, handmade personalized gifts, getting excited about visits (tearing-up). Money, houses, cars, clothes, make-up & red bottom shoes will NEVER replace a parent or grandparent! I’ll take a hug, a slice of apple pie & a ride in granddaddy’s truck any day over that stuff & most kids would too! No respect for parents or grandparents these days & it’s sad. God Bless these DIVA parents … smh
Explain to me how Kim Biermann’s very happy family with her husband who she has had four kids with and and he adopted the other two, who tweet each other all day long on twitter saying the cutest things and talking about the loss of their beloved dog, have anything at all in common with a shrew who married a man who she emasculated on national TV until finally leaving the kid, the dog and the husband broken versions of their former selves in her wake while spending all her time working on a talk show where she gave everyone advice on relationships?
Because I’m dying to her this.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Try putting yourself in the shoes of someone who’s parents were cruel to them if you can. You loved your family and they were very loving to you. You know some parents actually kill their children? Parents don’t deserve devotion just because they gave birth to you. I was proud of Kim for kicking her mother out of her wedding, her mother deserved it. I think Bethenny is as selfish as they come, but I am pretty sure her mother was a cruel person. One thing I can’t blame Beth for is cutting off her Mom. Plus, forgiveness and fellowship/friendship are not dependent on each other. I can forgive my mother for the horrible things she did to me, but since she is not sorry I won’t have a relationship with her.
Bethany & Kim, IMO are very selfish & methodically create situations that feed their own desire for battles that only they believe they can win. Both women are broken.
Bethany, Kim & Cory have nothing to do with their parents or in-laws, therefore the children have no grandparent involvement which is very unusual especially Kim & Cory. Are both sets of grand-parents just plain evil? Really? These 3 narcissist need to take a look in the mirror.
We’re all guilty of doing & saying things that shouldn’t be done or said; we make mistakes, we’re human. Mature adults know the value of family & friendship; they learn to resolve issues & restore relationships – they believe in 2nd & even 3rd chances.
Parents & grandparents are important to children maybe not so much for today’s cold-hearted adults who seemingly can only relate to tweet, twats & tits!
Kim’s daughter expressed an interest in having a relationship with her grandparents as most of her friends do but Kim would rather be right than righteous; even her daughter realizes this is not normal; no grandparent on either side – sad. Most mothers would at least try to make amends with their parents for the sake of her children – a true testament of a mother’s love, the ability to put others before self.
Kim & Cory are setting a poor example for their children. It’s like digging a hole for someone & you fall in it. Children should be taught forgiveness, apologies & how to work through difficult situations (lead by example) but not just with their parents & siblings but others. I believe Kim’s daughter wanted her Mom to make amends with her mother because she loves her grandparents. IMO, it’s very sad & it’s selfish of Kim & Cory.
I’m not known as clairvoyant however, I do believe you reap what you sow; no harm intended.
You have a whole lot of advice for a family who you don’t even get the names right for.
You can take one look at Karen Zolciak and see that she is suffering from an addiction or an eating disorder, or some form of mental illness.
Plenty of people are better off raising their children outside of the presence of their toxic parents.
Kroy, that would be Kim Biermann’s husband, has distanced his parents from being around his family until they can not disrespect his wife. Again, another thing sane, men raising families do.
The older Biermann kids are on Twitter and seem very happy and well adjusted. Her youngest four are healthy, smiling and adorable in the tweeted photos. Kim QUIT RHOA at Kroy’s request to focus on their family and keep her out of all the stress and ratchetness whiles she was pregnant. She’s had three or more adorable seasons of happy families and adorable kids.
You are a fucking moron.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Grand kids MAY have completely different relationships with grandparents.
Obviously you have “the picture perfect family”. Others do not. It is better to keep children away from “toxic” people even if they are family members. Remember abuse comes in all shapes and forms. I waited 42 years to have my child because of my childhood/family issues and I will not let her around anyone who could hurt her physically and/or emotionally. And I certainly do not allow her to be around someone who talks shit about me! I think Kim and Bethenny would agree with me on that.
Very, very crazy. You need a good therapist.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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How is that very crazy? Personally I thought I was agreeing with your comments to Soft Shades.
Since I probably only watched 2 episodes of Bethenny’s show, I probably shouldn’t comment but I have to. lol I wonder if so many would be upset if it were Jason who made the big bucks, and Bethenny was fighting for half?? Women get a ton of their husbands money everyday when they divorce, so I don’t see how Jason is a horrid person.
If “she” earned it while they were married, he deserves his share in my opinion. By what I’ve read here, he helped a boatload so deserves it even more than most spouses. And since I think she’s annoying as hell, he should get extra for putting up with her.
Just so my comments are clear….I have no problem with Jason trying to get what he can from Bethenny. All I was trying to point out is that doing so will NOT make any man (including Jason) feel any better about himself, will NOT make him feel as though he has reclaimed his manhood, will NOT make him feel any more secure (financially or otherwise). Maybe he thinks it will, but it will not. Only therapy, a look inside himself (and why he married someone who did not share his belief system to begin with and who he thought perhaps he could change), and forgiveness (of Bethenny and himself) will help him move on and ultimately feel better about himself.
I’m not sure he helped a butt load but he did help. I don’t think that male/female roles makes a difference. I think it’s more about the fact Bethenny came up with the concept and worked her butt off on branding Skinny Girl before Jason came along. Yes I think Jason is entitled to something but half no. I mean it wasn’t like they were married for 10 years or 5 for that matter.
He deserves more for letting her humiliate him on national television.
He volunteered for that lol.
Tamara, I just was wondering, aren’t they legally separated? And if they are, doesn’t that stop Jason’s claim to any of Bethenny’s new income after the separation? How would he be entitled to any new Bravo income?
Bethenny’s new trade name should be anorexic girl ( no allowed to post links). #waytooskinnygirl
The word shallow comes to mind when I read your comments “TT” which made no references to things of substance i.e. love, forgiveness, reconciliation, etc. all of which are intangible but beneficial in life. You stated,
“The older Biermann kids are on Twitter and seem very happy and well adjusted. Her youngest four are healthy, smiling and adorable in the tweeted photos.”
Robin Williams seemed very happy, made us laugh & perhaps even tweeted as he hung himself. Take note & dig a little deeper, you may find that “everything that shines ain’t gold. Have a nice day!
So I’m basing my opinion of the Biermann family with the daily interaction they have with each other and their friends on social media and, people I know who have friends in school with the girls, and you are basing your opinion of them on Robin Williams suicide?
Wow. That’s a whole new level of stupid. You seem to really want them to be unhappy for some reason.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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