On Tuesday, Teresa Giudice had a new lawyer craft a letter to Judge Salas because the judge did not include recommendation for where Teresa should serve her sentence in her judgment of conviction (JOC). In that letter the new attorney suggested that if the judge did not amend her JOC then Teresa would be serving her time in scary place like MDC Brooklyn or MCC Manhattan! The attorney also made, what I told you at the time was a ridiculous request for Teresa to do as much time as possible in a halfway house.
Well, today the Judge basically told everyone to calm the fuck down. Teresa will be going to FPC Danbury which is the cushiest, nicest choice available. And, as everyone loves to point out is where Piper Kerman, author of Orange is the New Black served her time. Here is what really happened.
According to NJ.COM
At Giudice’s sentencing, Salas asked Giudice’s former lawyer, Henry Klingeman, whether he wanted her to recommend to the Bureau of Prisons that his client serve her sentence at a camp facility in Danbury or another in West Virginia. After speaking with Giudice, Klingeman told the judge not to put in a request for a specific facility, Salas said today. Salas said she had not changed her mind since the sentencing.“I have set forth rather specifically and explicitly the reasoning for the sentence that I provided and I don’t think anything has changed since Oct. 2,” Salas said. “The only thing that has changed is counsel.”
So it was Teresa who opted not to make a request for a specific facility in the first place. I wonder if Klingeman stressed the importance of this or if he was just over Teresa by this point. The article goes on to say that a half-way house was never a consideration. Teresa will go to Danbury and do her time just like everyone else.
At least that is the expectation. Everyone is talking about this being a done deal. But it’s not. Things change all the time and until Teresa pulls up to the prison on January 5, 2015 things will always remain uncertain. PFC Danbury is phasing out its women’s facility. Beds come and go. In the two months the situations are bound to change. Teresa needs to cross her fingers and hope this situation remains in place on the day of her self-surrender.
I’m waiting now from Wendy Feldman to take all the credit for this placement.
For now, she is one lucky entitled scumbag. She better hope there is a bed available come January.
She doesnt deserve a cushy camp. I would of stuck her in Brooklyn.
I’m not a huge Teresa fan, and obviously she deserves prison, but I think she belongs somewhere minimum security like Danbury. You’ve gotta think, everyone in prison is (hopefully, if the system works) a criminal in some capacity. I don’t think fraud and being an entitled thief should land her with murderers and other violent criminals.
And no matter how “cushy” it is in comparison to other places, it’s still prison. She still will be told to get up at 6 am and go to her job slinging mashed potatoes onto plastic trays in her orange jumpsuit.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I still can’t picture it…How great would it be if Orange is the New Black wrote in a character for next season that was a reality tv star who went to jail?
Most white collar (embezzlement, wire fraud, loan fraud, credit card theft) go to these types of facilities. All the bribed judges, etc. go to these cushy facilities. I’m NOT a Teresa fan. Teresa is a criminal, found guilty of it. I want to her to go to jail, but her suffering will be enough in Danbury or similar facility. Just being away from her family, humiliated, etc. will be enough….IMHO.
I don’t know about anyone else but I am SICK of looking at this phony CROOK every time I log online!
Now media reports saying what was understood- it’s BOP that makes final call in where she’ll go, not the Judge. But what wasn’t clear from Feldman’s statement was why asking for a particular jail would hurt chances of getting in there. She also didn’t explain why, if a Judge recommends a certain jail, what grounds would make the BOP override that recommendation. Feldman made it sound as though that subsequent request now screwed up everything. But then the Judge agreed with the request and now it depends on the Bureau. It does sound like Feldman got canned. Don’t know why she’d make that public statement yesterday which now makes her look incorrect proving Tre’s allegations of incompetence. SMH.
Yep, and in MY OPINION it’s way too early for the BOP to be confirming a slot for Tre anywhere. Which is why I said Tre should not be getting her hopes up.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Other than acting like she would act like an attorney (motions, etc.), I really don’t care so much about Feldman. I, personally would like a consultant to get me ready for time in prison, tell me what to expect (rather than just reading about it), even if only to help with the anxiety. Could be like a placebo effect, if that makes any sense. I feel the anxiety would be the worst–no issue with how to wear prison make up, etc. So, I don’t know if there are more “legit” sources than Wendy for this type of thing, but I’d probably hire her if I could.
Though I have a problem with continuing to spend beyond essentials when should be paying restitution and the people who got ripped off. But that would require recognizing that you did something wrong. Pretty sure Teresa’s not quite there yet.
God, that last sentence I just wrote made me so mad! WTF IS WRONG WITH HER??? How can she still think she’s the victim? And that the “haters” shouldn’t judge her???
Gaaaaa and who is dumb enough to say on national TV that they don’t know how to blow their hair out??? Watch the person who does it for you MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK! Not hard! I’ve been blowing my hair out since 5th grade!
Maybe that hairline requires additional complex skills.
[Rant done.]
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There are people, women who have been to prison, who come and stay with the person about to start serving their time and explain how prison will be different from everyday life. I think Teresa definitely needs a person like that to help her. I think Tre is way back in wonderland right now and still thinks this, prison, may not happen to her.
Honestly, that’s a really good idea. I would want someone to give me some advice.
Yeah ….well wait till the inmates find out about her coming there …with Bravo giving her a pre-Christmas bonus …I am sooooo sure they will solo welcome her there …..NOT ..
Samantha – I hadn’t thought about that! If Orange is the New Black is even 50% accurate I cannot imagine what might go down there. She made her bed, but yikes!
Yeah …don’t think those that have been there …and DIDNT get a Christmas with their family ..and here comes new Beotch ..who just got a 250k Christmas …don’t see her making to many friends ..:-0
I wonder if she’s starting to get a clue that maybe her thinking, her assumptions are flawed and she should stop blocking out what she doesn’t want to face because it only makes things worse for her. I think the attorneys were over Teresa at the point where the prison designation was being discussed. I can just hear her squeaky voice telling her attorneys they are full of it.
Tre and Joe are very fortunate that the Judge even considered their children when it came to sentencing. A lot of women go to jail and get no such consideration. I know because a family member of mine went to jail for 18 mo and did not see her 2 teenage children because she was too far away. It took a terrible toll on her children and they began to rebel. Fortunately she did her time and her children were able to get back on track. My family member is now an advocate for women in prison and she travels all over the country speaking on procedural fairness when it comes to bail and sentencing in the criminal justice system. I say all that to say… Tre just do your time and quit wasting the judges time with these requests. At least the children will get to be with each parent. Yes they will be affected but they will recover.
I agree.
Well, now Teresa can tell the younger girls that Mommy is going to camp just like Gia went to camp during the summer.
I can’t believe Wendy seemingly suggested against this – why in the flying fuck would anyone take advice from some unqualified bitchmonger whose resume includes “I was in jail too” regarding such a serious matter – so I guess Teresa finally did something right.
I have to wonder if Teresa would have dodged doing time if she had better representation from day one? I don’t know, but I did wonder how inept her attorneys would have to be to allow her to screw up when she valuing her furniture and jewelry etc. pre-sentencing. It seems like with the right attorney you can get away with murder in this country. Could she have been too arrogant thinking she didn’t need the best and chose the wrong legal representation? A lot can happen between now and January fifth.
SHE HAD GOOD LAWYERS!!! She got off pretty easy. She had responsibility to work with her representation–they can only work with what you give them. You don’t just sit back and watch.
She had great attorneys. They had a fool/dumbass for a client. She is lucky her lawyers did not fire her.
She had good representation, she’s just a fucking idiot. You can advise, cajole, make suggestions, pretty much do everything but write stuff like that yourself (which you aren’t supposed to do) and if the client doesn’t want to fill out the paperwork correctly there’s not much you can do. I deal with this all the time with probation applications and it has given me more grey hairs than my teenagers and ex husband combined.
EXACTLY. These lawyers deserve trophies. These two are IDIOTS OF EPIC PROPORTIONS.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I can speak to this because I have had experience with this. My ex- husband went to federal prison for mail fraud. The judge can make recommendations but the final say is with the BOP. My ex was suppose to go to Nellis (in Vegas) one week prior he/we received a letter that he had to go to El Paso. Nellis was supposedly camp cupcacke too. The Fed’s shut it down. Judge’s rule on whether your guilty or how much time you spend. They have zero influence on where you go.
Well then, hopefully the same thing will happen with Tre! She’ll go through Christmas all happy she’s going to camp cupcake (and we all know she’s going to show her ass on New Year’s Eve whooping it up on her last hurrah), and then the letter will arrive sending her to someplace that’s high security (considering she’s a “high profile”), to show that the BOP is large and in charge…
It could happen. It’s really way to early for the BOP to have confirmed a bed for her for January.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think they will put her in Danbury. She’s too much of a curiosity and could cause unnecessary disturbances to the more violent criminal population in detention center. They’d end up having to segregate her. Seems like cruel and unusual punishment for her offenses.
What her and Joe did to the kids and family is cruel …and unusual ..nooooo sympathy for her at all ! Again I say …”Theresa shut up and go to jail already!” …after you spend your 250k on crap before you go ! Let inmates find out about that when you arrive …eeeccckkk
I wanted Tre to go to the worse place imaginable for the crimes she committed. She has shown no remorse.
I’m glad the Tre may be going to Danbury. Those who want Tre housed with murderers in high security prison are just horrible.
heh. I’m fine with her going to Danbury if she actually ends up there. But if she were to go to the detention center, I’d be fine with that too. FOURTY ONE FELONY CHARGES.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Why pay the extra money to put her in the MCC. Keep her out of the kitchen at Danbury and make her the bathroom cleaner. I still predict she’ll need heavy duty meds.
Yeah as long as she isn’t housed with violent criminals I’m ok with it. I just don’t see how any good can come from housing white collar criminals with no history of violence with those who are imprisoned for violent crimes. That’s just me though.
Michael – I agree with you. She’s being punished by the Feds – she shouldn’t have to worry about being beaten by violent jailmates.
So will Joe get to go to Cushy College or will he actually go to a JAIL?
He’ll go to prison. It remains to be seen if he requested a preference.
HORRIBLE<~~~~~~~
I keep wondering how the lawyers were paid…
Any attorney worth their salt is paid a hefty retainer up front, but they might have done it pro bono for the free advertising.
That’s what I have asked !
I keep wondering IF the lawyers were paid.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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*Braces for the stones* I was never really a Teresa fan, and never remotely of her brother and Melissa after the way they acted the first time they were on the show at the christening, but I feel just awful for this family. So awful I even wish Joe and Melissa all the success in the world. Maybe I’m the one who should be on the meds.
@ Tracy. No you don’t need meds, you are just a compassionate human being. Let the punishment fit the crime, for all those spouting such hate, the crime does not deserve hard time with hardened criminals, think what you may of Theresa, but a hardened criminal she is not.
As for the Gorgas please don’t get me started. If they are upset about what is happening to their family I have convinced myself (without any evidence, just intuition) that it is guilt at the part they also played in this debacle along with the Wakhiles(sp) and the Lauritas. There I’ve said it. Sue me.
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So, Guantanamo Bay isn’t on the table?
LOL on some websites I would be.
I feel worse for Joe than for Teresa. I read all these comments on other sites about how Teresa didn’t know what was going on and it’s all Joe’s fault, and I say BS on that. She pushed that poor sap way beyond his limit. In the early shows she kept on him for more money – she needed new boobs, a bigger house, more clothes. He tried to tell her that they didn’t have it, but she was going to get those things no matter what. Maybe prison will teach her about what’s really important in life.
My ex family member extorted approximately $1 million dollars out of investors in a ponzi scheme, resulting in 51 federal charges along with state charges. Feds dropped their charges, but he still has to pay restitution, let the state handle it. He had a public defender and received a 16 year sentence in state prison (no early release for good behavior in this state, you serve the time you’re given). At the time, he had kids under the age of 14, judge didn’t give a damn. Just goes to show what money can buy you…a ridiculously reduced sentence.
Has she even told her children yet she’s going to “college”? Last I heard she was going to wait until a week before. These kids should know asap and have counseling the entire time. She may be a hands on mother, but she’s a bad influence hands on mother – no information in advance to prepare, and God forbid she should ACTUALLY discipline them. Melonia or whatever her name is is a total BRAT.
She has to have told them. I mean it’s everywhere, how could you hide it? If she hasn’t told them, then she should be nominated along with Momma June for worst reality tv mom of 2014.
Oh they paid trust me LOL. We paid 100k to get a plea deal.When my ex got arrested and it was a shit show. 7:00 on a Friday morning with 10 cop cars. I had my then baby in my arms with a gun pointed at me. So fun LOL
There are only certain attorney’s that handle fed cases. Ask me how I know LOL
We had one consultation with an attorney and would not speak to us if we didn’t cough up the 100k
He was a great attorney… don’t get me wrong. The Fed’s don’t fuck around. I’m guessing they probably paid north of 300k at least.
One other thing to note is that Teresa is going to do half way house time. When you are in a half way house you HAVE to get a w2 job. Not slanging cookbooks or wine. You have to spend so many hours looking for a job per day. You also have to piss test everytime you come back to the half way house.
So Tre will have to learn to enunciate correctly so she can say you want fries with that.
I don’t know that EVERYONE has to do the halfway house. The point of a halfway house is to give people the opportunity to be discharged as employed, self-sufficient citizens. If you have post secondary education and a job history in the six figures, you’re not really a halfway house candidate. I don’t think Martha did it and I don’t think Piper Kerman did either.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I still don’t believe that anyone knows where Teresa will be going. Assignments are generally made by the BOP a couple of weeks before the surrender date.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> I don’t know that EVERYONE has to do the halfway house. The point of a > halfway house is to give people the opportunity to be discharged as > employed, self-sufficient citizens. If you have post secondary education > and a job history in the six figures, you’re not really a halfway house > candidate. I don’t think Martha did it and I don’t think Piper Kerman did > either. > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
Do think BOP will screw with Teresa because she is a Bravolebraty? Martha did not get her 1st choice of Danbury (close to her mom), or 2nd choice Florida(the poshest). I do think Martha was perceived as being an uppity woman.
I really don’t think she will get Danbury. However when a legit media site quotes a JUDGE, who am I to say that will not happen….
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Pretty sure you have to do the half way house. My ex has a master’s degree and also had a home. I could be wrong though… all this nonsense happened 6 years ago. Ya know now that I’m thinking about it…it probably had to do with the alcohol school deal. Joe’s doing the same. It knocks a year off. I bet that’s it. We and our whole family had to sit down and talk with our attorney’s pre-sentencing expert and talk about my ex’s alcohol problem. The report that was submitted looked like an Encyclopedia. But the end game was to knock a year off. He got 48 months.
With the Fed’s it’s just all about doing what you can to lessen the sentence. Just like Joe and Teresa they spent a couple years investigating. Basically you are fucked six way’s till Sunday.
I still can’t believe they lied on that pre-sentencing report.
My ex over billed on medical equipment. He put the bills in the mail..hence the mail fraud. And no I didn’t know…Nobody got rich trust me LOL
It’s an interesting story. He sold plates, screws, rods etc…
And the dr’s in a lot of cases didn’t know the exact size so when the put it in the spine and it didn’t fit…they had to throw it out. It was waste. I vividly remember going to a doctor’s office looking at x’rays and the dr. asking the ex so what do you think??? WTF!!! My jaw dropped. The ex said to me it is called ‘practicing medicine’ for a reason
I had those metal rods, screws, nuts and bolts put in my back when I was 14. I had them removed when I was 42, due to the big rod coming LOOSE! I’ve had pain for most of my life. The surgeon who removed all of this had to use hammers and chisles.
Elaine, I hope your ex’s death is painful.
Sorry for the off topic shit. I was feelin’ shit.