I feel like I am being forced to watch this stupid show. Andy tries to break the mood with a montage of Milania and Gia modeling. Andy is borderline disturbing with his obsession with those girls.
Andy plays a montage about Teressa being a bitch about Teresa’s sentencing and Rino is in the audience screaming and clapping that he loves that Teressa was a bitch. Andy says twitter is blowing up about it. Teressa said she apologized to Teresa and they are in a good place now. Andy says she saw that clip for the first time on the reunion. Andy says the twins were crazy for pushing Teresa’s buttons by calling her stupid. That is the Gorga switch for violence. Rino continues to shout out answers and Andy is already pissed with Rino because he won’t stop screaming out thing in the audience.
Andy has the certified results of the lie detector test Victoria Gotti took to prove she was telling the truth. She passed it. Teresa says. “I’m a housewife, she’s a has been.” Nicole says Victoria lied about having cancer. She will say anything for attention and then she says, “Bye Felicia, beeeep!” apparently trying and failing to channel Nene.
Tamar is pretending to be appalled by the twins and asked Andy where he found them. Really, Tamar? You are way worse than those two.
Questions:
Nicole how is the relationship with Bobby? Does she believe the cheating rumors? It’s going great, and she never believed the cheating rumors.
Why did the twins blame Teresa for what Gotti said? Teresa says that she is a housewife and know how things work behind the scenes. She knows that Teresa went into that scene knowing what was going to happen and she should own up and take responsibility for what she did. She seems to be implying that Tre brought Gotti on the show just to make the comment. Which could well be true.
What the heck is a long hot, twins? It’s a hot pepper. Really? I thought it was a hot dog.
What are those drinks with the oranges? Vodka Belvedere with fresh squeezed oranges.
Were you surprised that Jim dropped the bomb in Boca? No, he had a few drinks. (It seems like they don’t hate him nearly as much as everyone else. That is weird. Did he and Bobby make up?)
Someone asks Tamar if she is a Kenya fan and what does she think of her singing? Tamar wasn’t aware that she sings and once reminded did remember the song but didn’t know Kenya wanted to sing. Andy clarifies that the song was just for fun. Tamar says that Kenya is not her favorite. She is a Nene fan. Tamar says she is not into the thirst of it all and the pageant thing sort of reeks.
I’m going to add to this tonight if need be because for some reason even though I changed my settings to record Manzo’d later tonight the DVR decided to do it anyway. I doubt I really missed much.
OKAY I’M BACK TO UPDATE!
That might have been the dumbest game ever. And am I the only one who notices that Andy gives the tacky WWHL gifts according to how much he likes the guests? If he REALLY likes you get the bathrobe. If he doesn’t you get the stupid housewives pants. He gave these three mens briefs. WTF? I mean I like to wear my exes boxer briefs, but …still.
Another question, will Teresa make Rino take a lie detector? No.
Who is your favorite housewife results:
Amber 6% (Jim must have a sore thumb)
Dina 13% ( I would have probably voted for her)
Melissa 15% (or her)
Teresa 51%
Twins 15%
I have always believed what Victoria Gotti said. She has no earthly reason to make it up. Rino won’t be going near any lie detector test, that is for sure.
What was the “karma” that got the twins father, Asesbetos Sal, 15 monthis in federal prison, for having illegal alien employees use unsafe methods of removing of and disposing of aesbetos?
Teresa rules in the votes again, over those idiotic twins and everyone else. It’s clear she is the show, and she will have a future on the show after her sentence is over. It’s only one year, she won’t be forgotten.
Whoa there.
“It’s only one year, she won’t be forgotten.”
Maybe a bit dramatic… We’re talking about a Real Housewife of New Jersey after all.
Supposedly they are filming next season now, so if they run it while she’s “away”, she’ll be back out in time to start filming the following season without too much delay. I don’t think this is going to damage Tre’s brand any more than it already has been by the whole thing.
They are not filming the next season now. IF there is a next season the cast will get a MAJOR overhaul. I expect it to be put out to pasture at least until Tre gets out.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@formeryoya
If anything this will make Tre even more money which I think is a good thing so she can pay everyone back that was ripped off. Tre could have an Orange is the New Black moment. I said ‘could’, so don’t yell at me please Tre haters. America loves a comeback queen or king. Britney, Robert Downey Jr, Martha Stewart and people still seem to care about Lindsey Lohan. Tre should be fine from a professional perspective. She just needs to make it through the next year i guess. I doubt Bravo will dump her anytime soon unlike Nene, Tre hasn’t bit the hand that has fed her just yet.
No earthly reason to make it up? She’s had several failed reality shows, apparently lied about having cancer which is ALWAYS indicative of some severe form of narcissism, and a handful of shitty books riding the coattails of her family – she’s clearly someone that wants to be on TV and craves attention – as far as I’m concerned trying to apply logic to people like that just doesn’t pan out in the end.
She literally showed up for a 10 second scene, and then had another 2 minute scene to drop the seasonal housewife rumor. The real question is, why in the fuck would someone go on national TV to say that about someone you hardly know even if its true or not?
I don’t like the twins but I could see why they’re annoyed by Teresa – she clearly knew what was going on – its her MO to bring third party shit stirrers; in true Teresa form she couldn’t even muster an apology and TRULY couldn’t comprehend the situation. Of course she’s stupid as a bag of inflatable buttplugs, otherwise you wouldn’t bother getting offended by it.
Tre apologise for someone else’s behaviour and giving the twins a much needed storyline? HA! You make me smile sometimes Psylocke. If the twins really had an issue with the rumor and Gotti why not confront her on camera? Or confront production for setting up the scene. Or the cameramen/camera women for filming the scene. Or the makeup artists for doing Tre and Amber’s makeup for the scene…see where I’m going with this?
Youre not going anywhere with anything. How do you know they didnt try to film with Gotti? How do you know they didnt bring it up with production? We see probably 10% of what actually goes on – we all know its manufactured entertainment but you keep making all this existential metacommentary and it’s just fucking pointless. Why don’t ANY housewives just do that at any given time instead of fighting and acting like idiots for our entertainment? Why didn’t Terry debrow confront production about what was really said at the ground breaking party? Why has superman continued to sell books for the last 50 years when he can just instantly save and do anything traveling at the speed of light? Why? Because the story would be fucking boring – there wouldn’t BE a story.
I don’t understand why you continue to read about reality television if you’re so caught up on the production process.
If you haven’t noticed a lot of us come to TT’s blog to comment/speculate on the behind the scenes of reality television. Alot of TT’s posts are specifically about production issues and glimpses of the true reality of these shows. I guess it is unfair to expect everyone to have the capacity to watch RHofNJ and consider what is happening behind the scenes.
By the way you kind of shot yourself in the foot when you make statements such as “she clearly knew what was going on”. I didn’t realise you and Tre are mentally linked to the point of understanding her motivations and knowledge of Gotti’s accusation. What a truly horrible life you must live. You have my pity fine sir.
Americans have a short memory. If anything they will tune in to see if any damage was done in prison. But what does RHONJ tre have to offer once she is poor?
Do you think Andy was about to lose him mind with the Twins comment about “knowing how it worked because she a housewife” and implying the scenes are staged?
What was the breakdown on the poll results?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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It was 51% Teresa and approx 15% for the others HWs.
I wish they just openly discussed production and how some of the things the Housewives get pissy about happens off camera with the producers (such as Tre’s family filming with Jacq, or production bringing Jacq back when Dina refused to come back with her on the show). It would make discussing the show easier and more enjoyable. Got to love transparency.
I would love that too! We know that they know that we know, so let’s get really real.
It would but as seen in comments to this and many other posts, waaaaaaay too many people still believe this shit is real, that production has no part in it other than filming. It’s scary really.
@Karma Grant
I don’t understand how people can be so thick. It’s sad really.
Why doesnt Rino own up to saying it as a joke while drunk? That would make more sense than having Gotti make something like that up out of thin air. More believable too. The woman is taking lie detector tests for petes sake!
I agree, that seems like the easiest response. “Oh please, I was joking!!! My wife’s MOTHER!?!? You do know I had my choice of young strippers to bang, right?”
I still can’t believe in the Rino/Santa storyline. No one in Teressa’s family seems all that upset about it; surely they would all be mortified if it were true? Fake story-line, accompanied by bad acting
I agree, besides the twins no one seemed bothered by it. The twins dad seems to love Rino and if the rumor was true I really doubt they would even be able to be in the same room. I think TerEsa was mad at Teresa because like she implyed on WWHL, Teresa brought Gotti on the show and knew what was going to happen. Not much ‘real’ about these housewives anymore, its become so scripted.
Billie: I’m gonna have to respectfully disagree. That’s fucking ridiculous.
Billie is often fucking ridiculous.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I know; I just think of all the reality shows to be as fake as wrestling. Hmmmm, maybe RHONJ wrestling could be next season’s storyline.
@Billie, what truth do you know for certain? That Rino shagged his MIL, that some men have shagged their MIL, or that your father shagged his MIL?
They sign away the rights to sue for defamation, loss of business, and pretty much anything else one might could sue for. The only thing they can do is file criminal charges if they are attacked and injured.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Most people would be mortified whether it was true or not!
I really hope the twins are out next season…in fact, I doubt there will be a season next year. No one is likeable outside of Teresa. They’ll probably go on hiatus like NYC. I’m not tuning in for the revealed scenes shows…just the reunion. #worstseasonever
Doesn’t the reunion look good though? It’s hard to tell with only the short trailer for it, but after such a lackluster season the reuion doesn’t look half bad.
I’m looking forward to the reunion Mostly because it seems Ashlee got Dina worked up prior to the reunion and she is ready to unleash on Jacqueline… 🙂
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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YES! Totally caught that. Dina also sounded like she was so fed up of backstabbing family members (in her eyes) that she had a dig at Melissa for coming onto the show to humiliate Tre when she spoke up trying to defend Jacq it seems. I’d be happy with a Dina versus Melissa face off since Jacq isn’t present.
Jac claimed to have a prior speaking engagement for Autism, however, Dina would not have done the reunion had she shown up.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m not sure if you mentioned this before but when I read about Jacq and the reason why she wasn’t at the reunion (it could be true I don’t care enough to investigate Jacq’s twitter feed) I wondered how Bravo could expect Dina to film with her. That’s why when the Ashlee and Dina drama reportedly happened I assumed it was to provoke Dina and most likely setup by production. Kind of like a fuck you to Dina since she probably refused to show up to a reunion that Jacq would be attending. This is purely speculation on my behalf, but since when was Ashlee a makeup artist? It would make more sense if Lauren Manzo showed up to do makeup for the reunion.
You are correct on all counts. Ashlee may have done some sort of cosmology school in LA amongst her half nekkid modeling stuff. who knows, but if Kathy and/or Rosie wanted her as their makeup person they could have selected her on their own. More likely it was a production suggestion since Ashlee was likely initially planning to be her mothers.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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We all know that Dinas problem stems from her failed show on TLC. She wanted her brother’s wedding on her show and Caroline talked him into doing it on RHONJ. Sorry, I’m not buying her Zen BS. Caroline never talks crap about her. But Dina gets her digs in repeatedly. Jacq is back cause she needs the money. I kinda believe Ashlee on this one. Even tho I did not watch the majority of the show this season (the twins are like nails down a blackboard for me) I will catch the Reunion. Whole new cast for next season anyone?
This show is awful.
Me neither. I never watch “secrets
revealed”‘episodes. That”s always the rubbish that wasn’t considered good enough for the main show.
I may caution you not to miss it this time. The Atlantic City stuff is supposed to be on there. Or you can just read the recaps. 🙂
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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V Gotti passing lie detector test is a joke. She’s a pathological liar who probably starts believing her own lies.
My thoughts exactly. She would pass if she lies so much she forgets the truth.
I agree there will be a hiatus, like New York, and that’s why there were no “recaps” at the end of the finale tonight, because the execs at Bravo weren’t sure and aren’t sure how all this Teresa stuff will play out. The poll results tell me everything I need to know, Teresa Giudice is the Teflon Don of the Real Housewives of New Jersey show, the only way to do a show without her is a segment every week with how Joe and the girls are doing without her.
Hopefully there wont be anymore shows of this franchise, ever. With or without those crooks.
Maybe they will start filming the next season midway next year and continue through till christmas when Tre is released. Then expedite an early season premier in early 2016. They don’t need to wait for Tre to get out to film. I’m sure footage of the girls missing their mother and Joe stepping up as their only guardian would suffice for a few episodes until Tre is released ans xan film the rest of the season. I’m sure she will need the money.
Is anybody actually that desperate to see more of this show?
Michael – I bet you’re right and that Bravo hope$ to film her actually walking out of prison into the arms of her little family. Who wouldn’t watch that?! A hand-off; Joe leaves the girls with Tre and then walks off to serve his 4 1/2 years. I wonder what background music they’ll use! 😉
I agree. It would be interesting if Joe took the place of Teresa while she is incarcerated. We would see the insanity of Joe playing MR. Mom, and how he interacts with the children, I think it would be a hit.
I think victoria took the test to keep it going and fuel the flames with the twins. I think she wants theresas spot while in lockdown.
Totally agree with you…i think thwt Gotti took and passed the test to create entertainment and drama and secure a spot on the show…ready to work with production as the shit stirrer…nothing personal just business as usual with bravo..also…test can be fixed… not trusting Gotti or Bravo on integrity with any lie detector
I actually kinda like the twins. I cant explain it other than they are fun in a messy sort of way. Dina, Amber and Jim can kick rocks though.
I know what you mean. Maybe because I expected to hate them?
Maybe because I dislike the rest of the cast and haven’t had enough time with the twins yet?
I guess when put alongside the likes of Amber, Teresa and Jac they didnt seem that bad!!
I’m with ya! The twins make me laugh just because they’re so ridiculous, and I think they might be the only two who didn’t cry in their talking heads. I don’t understand how Teresa had 51% on that poll. Am I missing something?
I think Andy fucks with the results.
It makes me cringe to think that more than half the viewers not only still like her, but choose her as their favorite. WHAT do they like about her? What qualities are so amazing that they offset the narcissistic sociopathic and criminal behavior? I am honestly asking if anyone has ideas?
Nope, your not missing anything. Teresa is the show. She has carried the show for the last few years. ALL of the prior casts & current castmates do nothing but talk about Teresa. Look at Rosie/Jac/Kathy…still TALKING about Teresa. Give me a break. I mean, come on…how interesting is Kathy with her constant promotion of her Cannoli’s? Or Jac, crying in every other scene over her son’s autism? I don’t think the DRAMA filled, edited, staged, physical violence, criminals, etc, etc, is a proper platform for learning about autism. Sorry, but I’m not really interested.
I like the twins too, but maybe it is by default as I can’t stand Teresa, Dina, or hearing about cancer anymore.
@hokiechick. I think perhaps it’s not so much that they like her personally, just that they like her storylines. For instance, I hate Bethenny but am looking forward to seeing her back on RHNYC as I think it will cause friction!
Yeah, me too; I hope Bravo keeps them.
What was the point of having Tamar on the show?
Tamar who ? Lol.
LMAO
“NO EDGES”
Yeah she was completely unnecessary, especially since he had both twins immediately following the finale. Those girls could fill a 5-hour special alone if they had one,,,and Tamar had the premium seat..?
You are really attempting logic with Bravo and Andy. It’s all smoke and mirrors. It’s not like it’s NPR for Christ sake.
Ok the Housewives can’t have it both ways. Either break the fourth wall and openly discuss production intervention and how filming works (example: housewives being ‘late’ to parties when really production choosen what time they can show up) or pretend the show is completely real and organic. The twins giving Tre shit for the rumor that Gotti told is frustrating to listen to. Clearly production was behind that and since the twins can’t blame production they blame Tre as they believe she could have refused to film with Gotti thereby disallowing the rumor from being a storyline. If anything the rumor gave them their only storyline. They should be thankfull. Hopefully I’m not the only crazy viewer who thinks this way.
Your absolutely correct. It is frustrating. And what’s more frustrating, we never get answers. At the reunions, Andy never asks those hard hitting questions. He’s more interested if they experimented in the “lady pond”, or some perverted question only a man would ask.
Nicole said that “Bobby is a man of integrity”. Yeah, what about all the fraud charges that were filed against his auto dealerships by the state of New Jersey? Look up the court cases!
Glad you caught Andy getting annoyed with Rino yelling out from the audience. It was very annoying. This season of RHNJ focused on the husbands A LOT. As did the last season of RHOA. Maybe the men of Atlanta started this trend, but the whole franchise seems to be moving toward husband-centered storylines. No wonder Rino feels entitled to yell out his opinion when he’s not even the guest.
Does those silly-ass noises that Tamar makes get on anyone else’s last nerve? I don’t like Tamar…period. And like Teressssa, I absolutely believe Victoria Gotti was given her 15 seconds to bring some drama. What would be the point otherwise? As for Tre getting more than half of the poll vote….I suspect it was because her and her problems was the highlight of the 12 episode season.
The fact of the matter is these 2 bimbos gave this rumor life by repeating it several times on the show. They USED their mother for a storyline.
Rino is vying to take the “asshat husband spot” from Richie. He thinks he is clever and witty yelling out comments while his wife is on live tv…. Andy did not give a shit that you were even there, Rino! And Jim Marchese already has the corner on that title.
AND… NO WHERE NEAR the magnitude of what the Guidices did, but Teresa Aprea was sued by Capital One in 2010 for $1,702.08. I guess she felt entitled not to pay for those Jimmy Choos (or whatever the hell else she charged). Stealing is stealing TeRRESSA!
That’s weird. So she didn’t pay off two grand on a credit card and they sued her? Wouldn’t it just get sent to collections?
Yes. There is a link to the judgement if you google. I will not break TT’s rules and paste here.
I think I know why Tre won the poll. This season she seemed a lot more subdued and less aggressive and petty than normal. Understandably because of her legal issues. I personally didn’t care for any of them but if I was FORCED to choose I would’ve chosen her too in the poll. I think the twins made a big deal out of the Rino/mother situation. They could’ve said what they needed to say and let it go but instead they kept it going on and on. No one cares! I’m not really a fan of Dina, Amber either. This show has lost that “NJ” vibe we had all come to know and love in the beginning. Try as they might, the show has lost that sense of family for me. I’m remembering all of the cooking scenes that gave me an idea what goes on in Itslian households. Now even that’s been tainted because of all the “branding”. Its time to either scrap these HW shows all together or start from scratch with all new families. Instead of representing the states they come from theyve all turned “Hollywood” .Just my opinion.
This was a case of Andy truly scraping the bottom of the barrel to find guests for his show. Braxton is as fake as they come and the Twins are bland, boring and stupid. They need to be careful when they pick names to call other people because the word stupid describes THEM to a tee. Andy’s fixation on the little girls modeling is a little off-putting but then Andy is freaky no matter what he does. He’s such a yutz and a yenta. Teresa G. will always be the star of RHNJ and no jail sentence or fraudulent behavior will change that. At the Ladybug even Dina proved herself to be a total wimp because she did absolutely nothing to protect her friend from an onslaught of nastiness from the Twins and didn’t keep her promise about “losing a friend” if someone started trouble at her event. She is so “zen” that she puts me to sleep. The finale and the WWHL aftermath was ridiculous and Andy is running out of ways to keep the public’s interest in these vacuous people and their meaningless lives. If I were Bravo I’d get on my knees and beg, beg the producers of Project Runway to return to Bravo and then along with Top Chef…they might have some class again. The network is the equivalent of Radar On Line and Star Magazine…..full of lies.
Its Reality TV……Which is scripted. So, they make you think you know these peoples lives. Some of its true….a lot of it is faked and manufactured. Once you get your mind around that concept….you wouldn’t be so emotionally invested. But…..whatever floats your boat. Fame the did a number on some of these folks. Its like the Hunger games….Reality TV style…..Survivor of the Famewhores.,..but they steal..,.instead of kill. Hmmmmm and we’re the disgusting folks who keep watching for their demise and our amusement?
Sometimes even on reality TV the true colors of a person shines through. I doubt that everything that they say and do is scripted but I agree that a lot of it is staged and set-up. I personally am NOT personally or emotionally invested in any of these shows. I feel sorry for some of the characters and dislike others but that’s as far as I go. It’s a great escape from “real” life which in my case isn’t scripted at all!!! Sometimes, I wish it was because then I could re-write the script and have a happy ending. I am my husband’s caregiver since he has Alzheimers disease and watching reality television is a great escape from my daily “reality. I find the Twins to be a perfect example of a mixture of scripted and real behavior. They really can’t hide their faults from the camera no matter who tells them what to do and say.
So sorry for what you’re going through Merilyn. Caregiving is the toughest job on the planet. I took care of mom for almost 5 years, and almost lost my own mind. Prayers for you and your husband.
About the polls: I take them with a grain of salt. I always feel that the rabid fans vote till their fingers bleed, while we normal folks dont vote at all. Not putting down anyone who votes, just if its your life to do so. And as far as Teresa winning, I dont like her at all, but admit the show is boring without her. I watch for the same reasons as Merilyn, but also enjoy the crazyness and trainwrecks. lol
Agree Andy is creepy about “his” two girls. Was annoyed he ignored that Melissa’s daughter did way better than Malania.
This post reminded me that I caught an episode of The Real with Tamar last week where Amber Marchese was a guest. The whole show was about breast cancer and Amber actually came across sane and quite likeable. They also had her play a game called something like “Dish or Dine” where she had to either answer a question about one of the other housewives or take a bite of some unsavoury dish and she mostly just ate whatever was in front of her without flinching, hesitating or gagging. It was all the usual Fear Factor type dishes of bugs, pigs feet, eyeballs and other such delicacies.
You’re telling me that a housewife ate bugs rather than talk shit on other housewives? Everything I understand about the RH universe is wrong…
Ugh.. Tamar. Of course she’s friends with Nene. She’s the reason why I don’t watch The Real and why I stopped watching Braxton Family Values. Of all people she is the LAST person to refer to or insinuate anyone as being “thirsty”, considering she is the one who dragged her family into making a reality show. I love Toni, but Tamar is nothing more than a coattail-riding famewhore. Let’s face it — she’ll never be the chart-topper with the #1 hits like her sister. One thing I can say about Kenya is that she paved her own way pre-Housewives.
Tamar is thirsty for a grammy.
I came and I received. I couldn’t sit through WWHL with the nitwits, but I wondered where they ranked on the poll question. I noticed they were shocked that Teresa won. So…15 percent, speaks volumes.
wow those poll results really confirm that no one but Teresa fans are even watching this season. I have watched a replay or two out of boredom. This Tamar person I have seen on commercials and she acts like a 12 year old so I don’t watch the show. The two twins look like aging strippers. In fact, everyone does this season but Teresa. Teresa looks grieved…clearly she’s lived in an imaginary, tangentially mafia-esque reality her entire life and only recently realized laws do apply to her.