So I gave myself a few hours of “comp time” because I am burning out. I spent the time binge-watching Hotel Hell (don’t bother, it’s just meh, which is what I needed) and when I switched back to TV CNN was on. Remember how we talked about Don Lemon being difficult with a cop and refusing to back up like he was told? Then he kept talking about the cop on live TV like he was a dog? Well apparently, that wasn’t enough for Don. He has now managed to get him fired.
One of the idiot talking heads introduces the story. It’s Breaking News! That this officer was fired for saying bad things against gays, women and Obama! Let’s interview Don Lemon who is wearing a fresh dress shirt and his black nerd glasses for this interview. First of all, the reporter wants us to know that they are not trying to insert Don Lemon in the story. Are you kidding me? They do that every night, several times a night. The reporter says she said when she watched she noticed that officer was “more aggressive” than the other officers.
Don says that this negative video about the officer magically appeared in his email this morning and he immediately called the chief of police. The officer, Dan Page, has 35 years with the force. He has now been fired and will be forced to undergo a psychiatric evaluation according to Don. I am not sure your employer can fire you and force you to be psychologically evaluated.
(This Youtube is an interview gone wrong this week between Don Lemon and rapper Talib Kweli. Not related to the officer story, just more douchebaggery by Lemon.)
That said, despite Don Lemon being a douchebag, Dan Page is a scary dude who needed to be fired. The hour long video is full of him saying things like … He is God’s child, but he is a killer. He has killed a lot of people, and he will kill more if he needs to. If you don’t want to get killed don’t get in front of him. He talks about domestic violence and says if they hate each other they should just kill each other and get it over with and stop wasting policemen’s time. He refers to himself as a killer several times. He rants against the federal government. He says that we are going to be federalized. He has this crazy outline of how the country is going to be divided into ten regions. It’s insanity. He is very anti-gay. He says the government is coming to take their kids and put them in a military encampment. He says he hates republicans, in the next breath he is giving marital advice. He then goes on talk about his memories from combat, and how we are all about to have our own. I think the point is that this nation is going to be destroyed. The government is coming to kill us all. He suggests that they(Oath Keepers) go down to the police and present themselves as not a militant group. I skipped through the video because it is an hour long and listened to bits of pieces of this and it really is very disturbing.
But even more disturbing, perhaps was Lemon’s gloating interview. And the most disturbing part is the inflammatory effect his report will have on the situation in Ferguson. This will enrage the protesters and make the police’s job a lot harder. It was not in the public interest of the city for this news to be aired on national television. It was just a way of Don Lemon getting back at someone he felt disrespected him. But apparently it wasn’t enough for him that the rogue cop was dealt with. He wanted it make it clear that it was at his hands. Don Lemon, still douching it up in Ferguson.
love your last line. perfect tag line for the dude.
Hate Don Lemon!
I don’t know if your talking about the same cop I watched, the one who asked them to move because there were shots fired and it wasn’t safe to be there. Lemon stayed planted and said he’d ask his producer if he should move. I hope it isn’t him. He did nothing wrong in that particular situation, yet Lemon referred to being “roughed up” by the cops later. Total douche of whale vagina proportions.
Yep, that is the one. As it turns out though the guy really is a bad seed. I’ll link you up.
Your wrong on this one TT. I wouldn’t want that cop patrolling my neighborhood. He seems a little unbalanced. He seems ad though he had a touch of ptsd. Hey him some help.
How am I wrong. I said the cop seems unstable and he needed to be fired?
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I know what you are speaking of. I can’t tell if it’s the same Cop. I just watched the being “roughed up” clip. For sure was an entirely different incident though.
@ tobaccorhoda This was in reply to rhoda…playing slingshot with WP! 🙂
It was night time if we’re speaking of the same incident…
The video Lemon is saying he was “Roughed Up” , was during the day.
Is that right TT? Lemon is saying the arm pushing against him was being roughed up?
Don’t get it twisted! Obviously this dude has to go based on his Job/Position and beliefs! ? Sounds pretty Damn horrible! !
Because I comment from my email. Y’all are making me go look. I thought I made it clear. IT IS THE SAME GUY. He was gloating in an interview. It was all remember this cop who was “very aggressive” toward me? Well now he is fired. BWAHAHAHAHA. and oh by the way he was fucked in the head.
I began writing the story defending the cop. Then I watched much of the video. Enough to see he was fucked in the head. And so I made some edits. perhaps I was not clear.
To recap my own post:
Same cop. Turns out cop is in fact fucked in the head. Lemon digs enough to get him fired. Firing was deserved. Lemon is still a douchebag.
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Ummm….that Cop/Officer whoever he is, scares me. Sounds like a cult! I couldn’t do the whole video! Once again…bowing down. Not sure how you do this.
Hey TT, I love your blog and I honestly aspire to as well informed as you are, I love how dedicated you are to digging until you get your facts! I have really enjoyed reading these posts about this case and the way you rebuttal stupid people who want to try to steal your thunder. I look up to your mental prowess and hope to be as sassy as you one day!
Thanks ECA. I’m mental for sure. I don’t know about the prowess part. 🙂
I can sense your sarcasm in this.
Jump off. We all know TT is amazing! Anybody would be an idiot to “try and steal her thunder” as you put it. Sorry that Lemon has had multiple incidents with multiple/same white cop over the last how many days now? One was at night and was during the day. Sorry. Not Sorry.
did wolf and anderson tease him for being the only black man there without a target so he tried to build his street cred?
Odds are this officer will appeal his firing and he will be reinstated with back pay. Or he will just retire with full benefits. Horrible as he is it seems like cops always end up on top in disciplinary matters.
Tamara is right, this will definitely incite more tension and rage. Rightly so too.
Michelle, I agree the rage would be justified. It proves their point that there are some bad apples on the force. I just don’t see the need to pour gas on the flames for his personal amusement right now.
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Wow, Tamara! Sometimes I feel like you’re living inside my head. I was walking into my hotel today and this was on CNN in the lobby. It’s so nice to know I’m not alone with some of my thoughts. Sometimes I fear that the P.C. Police are going to come arrest me. Thanks for all of your honest research, and writing. It’s so refreshing to have the truth put out there.
Thanks for thinking of the public safety after all the looting and rioting rather than your own ego. Also thanks for being humble and doing a good deed quietly. It was great how you didnt look for a pat on the back. Way to go Don Lemon!
This may be one of the most inflammatory things I have ever said her in a serious manner, but I don’t think that Vietnam Vets should be police officers. Something about the returning vets from that war coming home to public taunting after serving their country combined with the horrors they saw I think has messed them all up in the head.
I know it fucked up my brother and at the time there was no such thing as PTSD, it was called suck it up and move on.
Okay, you and throw the tomatoes now.
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TT, I agree with you wholeheartedly! I would go further and say the same for all returning soldiers. I dont believe you can see the horrors they saw without having PSTD.
This guy looked like he totally cracked from the pressure. Seeing the town looking like a war zone possibly triggered a psychotic break. Thank god he is off the street!! I hope he gets the help he needs.
Josie just so you know the video that got him fired occurred in April. But he has some very serious “religious beliefs” that degrade women, gays or as he calls them “Sodomites” and repeated says he is a killer who will kill again… I don’t think he has a psychotic break as much as he’s had PTSD untreated since the 70s. And I don’t think we would have a police force if veterans were not allowed to serve and protect us. I think most of the veterans AFTER the Vietnam war has some “aftercare” for lack of the correct term. And yes many on the frontlines still have PTSD and perhaps should not serve. But the Vietnam war was one where the veterans did not come home to “thank you for your service” sorts of comments and applause on airplanes and embracement by their country. They endured a hellish war and came home to be spit on and mocked in many instances. Which is horrible. And is damaged them to the point where I don’t think they should be faulted for their non-criminal whackadoodle behavior.
I think most veterans of other wars would probably make the best police officers barring any sort of serious PTSD problems.
No judgement here. This conversation has come up more than you think. A very under served population. I understand your statement.
I am going to have to disagree, my father is Vietnam vet, a Desert Storm vet and came out of retirement when asked to go serve in Bosnia. He was 25 on his first tour and perhaps his age helped him with his coping skills, but I know many Vietnam vets who are the people I would l ook to in a crisis. I totally agree the treatment they received coming home was horrible. Yes, my dad has some very strong feelings about protetsters going after the military. He does not talk about his service, but he was quite emotional about the cheering crowds after Desert Storm, I did not realize how it would mean to him, He said he never thought he would see Americans support and cheer the troops like that, So in closing so many servicemen and women need our support ., I am so sorry your brother suffered so much and that type of pain affects everyone who loves them.
Julie, I am the fifth of five siblings all but one are old enough to be my parents. I have no childhood memories of my eldest sibling who valiantly served this country in Vietnam prior to him going in. I know that when we lived in Libya and there were only a few people with phone lines, he would send us cassette tapes instead of calling as much. Sometimes he would call and then someone would summon us from time to time to tell us that he had a child who was named in part after me. I remember making that tape to send to him. I was a brat. I was asked how I felt about having a niedce named for me and I said something shitty. I don’t remember what I said but I do remember being punished. My parents were PISSED because we were making a cassette tape to mail and I ruined if. But Vietnam always ate at him and eventually it caused a rift in the family from his doing.
The whole “my father never talks about it” is exactly what I am saying. That is a timebomb waiting to go off. I have no idea what my brother went through. I was a kid. I remember asking and being told he was in a plane or helicopter or no one knows that was shot down. He was the only survivor or something. I don’t know it was when I was a child. No one told me anything.
I do remember him disowning me. And everyone else in my family after robbing my parents and being removed as an executor in my father’s will. It a was all devastating. I love my brother. But I really never got to know him. I think he might have been married when I was a kid. I am not really sure..
My personal opinion is that Vietnam Vets… should not be cops.
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My thought upon reading this is that it’s probably not much of an issue given the age of Vietnam Vets today. Assuming a man was 18 in 1973, (the last year of the draft and most US combat) he would be 59 years old in 2014. Wouldn’t they be retired from the force by now, or at least planning retirement in the very near future? If a 59+ year-old cop has psychological issues that impact his performance, wouldn’t they have come to light a long time ago?
Are you advocating firing any cop who served in Vietnam regardless of past positive job performance? Or are you just saying that police departments should not take new hires who served in Vietnam? I doubt there are many of those.
Thanks for correcting me TT. I was unaware the video was from April.
I was too young to get what was going on in Vietnam but when I grew older and learned about the war and how they were treated when they came back, it broke my heart. Thank God the newer vets are not treated that way.
So sorry about what happened to your brother and what it did to your family. Wherever he is, I hope he is doing well.
Hey Tamara I just wanted to point out and I know that you understand not all Vietnam vets are drug addicted and unstable, far too many are/were. My father was an officer. He was the type of officer, that said he would retire and put o-1V…. on the mailbox. You are so right the treatment they received at home contributed to all the problems. Occasionally there were some “loser bums” who would seek my father out. I am ashamed I had so little understanding and sympathy. I really did not get it until Desert Storm, and how much the support “shook” my dad up. He got his parade, so many did not. My mother’s cousin sounds like your brother, I found her on the floor crying when he killed himself. I promise no more, I just …am so sorry for your parent’s pain and I hope you do not continue to feel any guilt. Just curious my dad’s degree was petroleum enginerring. Three of my mothers’s brother’s were PE’s. One of them was in Libya in the 1960’s. I just wondered when your family was there. I know in Saudi they lived in a “compound” , but in other places they lived amongst the population. Sorry if I am being nosy.
We were there in the 70s. We lived in a regular villa that was owned I suppose by Lockheed. I loved living there. And all the forced traveling.
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If you are a cop, or any other type of public employee, and you allow someone to video you as you make crazy statements, then you deserve to be fired, imho. Don Lemon’s gloating about it is no surprise, because as you stated, he is a douchebag. There are soo many funny memes on the internet now of his face when the cop touched him. That video with Talib Kweli and Don Lemon is classic, when he called Don out for not even greeting him, bahaha. Egg on your face, Mr. I-have-a-job-to-do. And dang, Don Lemon goes hard for CNN. He sounded like a mama defending her child after Talib said he disagreed with how the media was covering the protesters. Somebody should’ve took his mike after he called Talib Kweli a ‘raptivist’. Raptivist?! Smh, can he get any douchier?
This is the same Cop that kept telling Lemon to move? And Lemon maid it clear that he wasn’t going to until the Producer in his ear told him to?
Damn, I thought people had been speaking of a different officer. Or was there another incident, that didn’t include Media being told to move?
Either way…Bye.
Tapper isn’t chasing him around with the freelance tear gasser photographer?
On a side note, I have a feeling Lemon is going to be going bye bye after this…
Yes it is that cop. And I doubt CNN will fire him. They seem to glorify him. Any Ferguson coverage on CNN is mostly about Don. He has injected himself into the news. He has become the story. He is the worst interviewere ever as the rapper pointed out he interrupts everyone. He has agreed with Bill O’Reilly and said O’Reilly is not hard enough on the black race. He has used the word ‘nigger’ on CNN. He has ranted against his own race. And now, he is in Ferguson trying to play his race card. And through this all CNN loves him.
I wasn’t going to post this video from last year, but now since I have made the allegations I feel I should back them up with his own words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCASEL9mUxM
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CNN just reputed the cop is on leave pending a mental evaluation or something. I caught the tail end of it.
I have been over glued too CNN. I made the mistake that CNN thought we’re smarter than that. I should know better.
You’re absolutely correct, he has become and injected himself into every story! I hate looking at his face and feeling like he’s loving it. That’s a horrible feeling. Between him, but more so the whole situation I had to take a step back. I think many people have noticed Lemon’s crap.
I was very unaware of the O’Reilly thing and Lemon’s other past comments. Very eye opening.
I usually stick too CNN and HLN.
Ugh.
I really miss Al Jazeera. I can’t get it on fucking Charter. I like to watch all the news channels for the stories I am interested in. Fox gets a bad rap. The liberal media has been exposed for having closed group online groups to discuss how to slant the news. Fox SLANTS IT another way. We really have no unbiased news sources in this country. The government is the great overseer. So you really have to watch them all in the same day and oh I don’t know… think for yourself?
I listen to talk radio twice a month in my car (because I hardly go anywhere but the head shrinker). I take it all with a grain of salt. I dunno I just prefer talk to music I can’t control. Anyway so Sean Hannity was on talking about the Gaza… Israeli conflict and I was outraged by his comments. Either the conflict before or after that he made the same argument about something I agreed with him on. His pro Israeli comments inflamed me. /shrugs.
I’m not on one political side or the other. I’m an independent. I’m socially liberal and economically conservative. It makes it really hard to vote.
I will say that the biggest whackdoodles in the political arena are people who are offended on BEHALF of some group they feel is disenfranchised. That drives me crazy. It’s like they don’t think that group can properly defend itself without their particular wisdom.
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WTF!?
My WTF…was to the Video of Lemon. That was like some after school special gone horribly wrong.
I try to watch a read on what I like. Similar to what you’re saying. In know way am I one way or the other. I can’t live like that.
My husband is addicted to talk radio and Internet talk shows. I’m never in a vehicle other than Dr. Appointments…then it’s music.
I actually watched a women last night on a panel talking about ISIS and all. I wish I could remember her name. She had so many great points!
This world is scary as fuck! I prefer my house, my animals and the beavers! Haha
Toure, went to town on him, some people went after him for using his gay card and turning against the black race. He was the gay Stacy Dash. Sad he caved into being a douche to get his black membership card back.
I listen to NPR and watch the PBS news. CNN & all the other cable news channels have turned into infotainment. Don Lemon is an example of yellow journalism at it’s best. ( No pun intended.) Yes, the police officer is probably psychotic, but Don Lemon sure took joy in provoking him.
I just read an article in The Guardian about this which stated, “The St Louis spokesman then confirmed to the Guardian that he was a county officer and added that Page had been “relieved of duty from here and placed in an administrative capacity pending an internal investigation”. He definitely should be fired, but I’ll bet he’ll be given a psych eval and sensitivity training and will be back to work. Same will happen for the St. Ann policeman that said, “I’ll f-ing kill you”!, who has been “indefinitely suspended”. Both these guys have been on the force for a long time so you know their behavior is well known and has been condoned.
Yeah, Donald said that everyone who works with people know a bit about their colleagues which is true. Which means there were many people on the force who knew of his issues. But how the hell do you tell your boss that someone with 35 years on the force is a dickhead with issues?
Oh my dear, you can be sure the bosses knew, all the way up to the top. I’m saying it was condoned at all levels, probably even rewarded. The article says, that The Oathkeepers is an association of former and serving military personnel, police officers and first responders, which I think is a bit scary.
For the record, the “Oaths Keepers” according to CNN deny that he is a member only a speaker who was applauded and shouted out to in the videos.
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I thought he worked professionally with the rapper Talib (what I heard of the interview, anyway). Lemon handled himself with much more aplomb than Mr. Kweli who came out sounding like a whiny child. I get that he’s upset, but when you have a stage like CNN the last thing you need to devolve to is that Don Lemon didn’t “greet” you properly and that he asked you for the correct pronunciation of your name and that upset you. Really? We have what looks like a serious police problem, reports change daily, protesters from outside are being bussed in, people are afraid to leave their homes to get food for their kids and you are OFFENDED that a reporter asks how to pronounce your name? That’s triflin’,
Thanks for covering the issue, T.
Think of someone (else?) that you believe to be a real reporter. Then ask yourself if they would have (a) behaved that way on camera or (b) continued to tell the producers to stay on him while he did.
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I think the important thing in discussing my take on things is that I heard (not saw) only clips of the Lemon/Kwali encounter. The consecutive pieces I heard made Kwali seem like an intransigent teenager. Brian Williams or Lester Holt would have ended the interview as soon as they could with minimal loss of “face” for all parties concerned.
Brian Williams or Lester Holt would not have inserted themselves into the situation nor acted if they were hosting the VMAs. And any journalist worth their salt would have greeted their guest, made them feel comfortable all while insuring they know how to pronounce their names…
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I would LOVE LOVE for Lester Holt to do a version of that interview! ! Seriously!
TT, Anthony Bourdean went to Iran for the upcoming season,he said that the people were absolutely wonderful and welcoming. It was one of his favorite destination.
I can’t wait to see it. And yes, in my experience the PEOPLE of everywhere are lovely and welcoming. And I travel alone. It’s the fucking government that sucks ass. Ours and everyone elses.
All the PEOPLE just want peace. Sadly there are mentally ill people who want a muffin, gentle giants who want fifty dollars worth of Swisher Sweets… governments who want to ….wait for it..
Fight to the death over which country owns “the holy land”
Maybe it’s just me. But if two cultures hold the same land to be “holy” should they not be working …. oh I don’t know… TOGETHER?
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Bill Clinton & Arafat were so close to getting peace. Israel made a lot of concessions. Clinton suggested making Jerusalem an international city owned by the world. This way both sides could continue to have access. Israel agreed. Atafat was going to sign but was scared of losing his street cred and rejected the deal and another opportunity was lost. I gave up hope after that. Yep, gov and leaders suck ass. Most people just want peace….
I know this is not a middle east blog but remember, Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli hardcore nationalist. IMO Arrafat was assiassinated for making cocessions, by the same people who saw Rabin’s moderation as a threat. So long as Israell allows settlers into disputed territory,No one is acting in good faith, Kind of Native Americans given land and pushed out over and over. The violence on both sides is horrible but Fox needs to address settlements. By the way I condsider myself a practical libertarian.I am registered as a Republican to try and thwart religous nutjobs in the primary. I hope this does not get me in trouble, I can not stand to listen to Shepard; and Hannity is just as bad concerning the issue of settlements. That is the first issue. One more rant Howard Stern called the people of Israel the indigenous people and did not get called out. No more violence avd address settlements and please god seek a true peace.RIP Rabin, I think you really made an effort.
Unless something is going on I don’t watch. But I need to record the dude on Fox, Shep Shepard or whatever his name is? I keep meaning to watch him because it really is like Anchorman. I always forget when he comes on 3? 4? somewhere around there. It’s the kind of show to watch when dropping acid or doing shrooms or something. He is hysterical. AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEWS. It’s awesome. And sad.
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People love The Shepp!
I never remember to watch but he is on during the middle of the day and it is HILARIOUS like ANCHOMAN hilarious…
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Lol! Yes, Sheppard Smith. Even the name is ANCHORMAN.
OMG I keep forgetting to watch Sheppard Smith. I still can’t believe that he is serious. It has to be parody. I should probably just record it. It’s the most hilarious show on TV.
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He pulls you in, and he makes some great points. But mainly you can’t turn away because you get the feeling he’s going to explode into some kinda travellin’ hell at any moment.
And they wonder why cnn’s ratings are in the gutter. Don needs to be on MSNBC. I am liking Danny Savollas. He gives some very common sense legal advice. My favorite was when he said regarding dorions criminal record. He told sunny that we could debate it in a coffee hose but the rules in courtroom were clear. Also, I like some of the stuff from Dr. G (who I am normally not a big fan of), she was very blunt about how officer shooting investigations are conducted and I think she was getting annoyed with the mob rhetoric, but to put it in layman terms—Don Lemon is just talking out of his ass and failing to actually listen to what anyone has to say.
i agree this cops rant is scary, and he shouldnt be in a position of authority. what i find scarier is that it seems if you have personal beliefs that others disagree with they can take away your job or basketball team etc.
I think what people tend to forget. Is that being a law enforcement officer is like most jobs. There is going to be a cross section of society. You are going to get really great people and some nut jobs as well. This is partically true for state/gov jobs and military as well. The problem is that it is very difficult to fire those individuals, because of tenure. Instead a lot of times they are what is called promoted away. Then they end up in positions of authority. Seen it happen several times.
Yes, same in corp America. They tend to rise to middle managers. HR will tell you that it is very difficult to fire someone so dept heads take the easy way out and promote them out of their dept to get rid of them. Strange but true!
I can’t agree more.
I hear what your saying. Do think having the power as LE and a Basketball owner has on the public, is the same? Or has the same repercussions? Do you hold his (extreme or some of) beliefs to a particular faith? My feeling is that I would have the choice to go to a meeting with this Man or as a Basketball Owner. But Zero choice in interactions if he didn’t like something about me based on HIS beliefs. Not based on me being an upstanding citizen. He went way beyond. LoL! I hope this doesn’t come as argumentative. Sooooooooo not how I mean it!! 😉
I watched eveerything you blogged about and I agree with you on all counts. There are two words to describe what’s going on here…”GONZO JOURNALISM”. For those who don’t know about Hunter Thompson this was a phrase coined by him regarding the media. I was embarrassed for CNN and they seem to be making themselves part of every story every single day. All credibility has been lost with this network. Just report the damn news and stop with the opinions and insertions into everything. Great insight…great blog, Tamra. I’m so glad that someone saw what I saw and called it out for what it is.
TT – the officer that pointed his weapon and the officer in the oath keepers video are two different people.
Ray Albers is a 20 year St Ann police veteran and he is the officer suspened indefinitely for threatening to shoot protestors. Dan Page is a 35 year St Louis County police veteran seen in the Oath Keepers video. It’s been said he is on unpaid administrative leave while the video is investigated and psych evans are done.
I don[‘t know what officer pointing a weapon you are talking about. This post has nothing to do with an officer who pointed a weapon. This post is about Dan Page
My apologies! We had another officer suspended this week for pointing his weapon at someone and saying “I will kill you”. The person on the receiving end was live streaming the whole thing and completely antagonizing the officer. That’s who I thought you were talking about at first.
Your not talking about the officer that threatened to shoot protestors though. Right? There was a confrontation between Lemon and another officer? That would be Don Page?
Not enough coffee before posting, lol
Jaysmom, I made the same mistake until TT corrected me. This article is about Dan Page, who got fired for a video that was made 4 months ago. Nothing to do with Albers and video of him pointing at protesters.
Don Lemon is a lemon. Long before this event, i thought he was totally unprofessional.
He has been inserting himself into news for a long time. That is not a newsman, thIS is an asshole who doesnt know what the F he is doing.
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Lemon’s reporting on the missing aircraft should have been enough to have him removed or at the very least demoted.
TT, what you said about Viet Nam vets is true. We as a country treated these men horribly. We were at a small dinner party as a young couple and two if the men had went over the border, my husband servered in Viet Nam. The heros at the table were the border crossers. My husband sat there in silence. It was horrible for him.
He was 30 years old and he was already a second class citizen because he did what he thought was right. It messed him up more by the treatment he got stateside than the war ever did.
redhotmama, The fact that he allowed himself to be recorded saying such disgusting things is not the problem, it is his mental state. ericazku, your point about the 35 years and not having moved up and staying on the force is a big red flag. I am willing to bet his record is an an issue. I do not have a problem with the DOJ reviewing the police dept. I do not want bad or unstable cops, they just need to seperate this from Micheal Brown. I have concerns that this cop was on the force. However, that does not make Darren Wilson a murderer.
calipatti, You are so right and never forget how difficult it was for you as a spouse. Somebody spit on my mother, she never told my father. It was one of those things that came out when I was an asshole, ungrateful teen. The really sad thing is now all the lying, posers coming out and claiming service.Damn I really need to drop the Vietnam train but in hindsight it was really important in my life. My father literally left the day before I was born. Maybe I will put my education to use and write a story about well adjusted Vietnam vets and the impact of a hostile America. Heads up it is super cool to say you were in Vietnam these days.
Lets look at the bright side, hotel room rates are probably really cheap in Ferguson right now. Vacation time.
Don Lemon has become another one in Ferguson who is buying into his own hype and has long since forgotten what its all about.
*btw Tamara, last I heard the cop was only on suspension, or as they call it “administrative leave.” Not that he isn’t deplorable and deserves to be fired (which he probably will be eventually) Its just another example of how Lemon is only reporting things as they want them to be heard.
Another dangerous “newsman” is Lawrence O’Donnell. He has been trying his best to inflame people about the Ferguson issue. He would like nothing more than to see more riots. He calls himself a “socialist”, and an “extreme leftist”, and he sure is. Angry, bitter, miserable, twisted.
that cop is an asshole, he should not be in a position of authotity, but unless he is doing some sick warren jeffs type stuff he has a right to what religious beliefs he chooses. and what hapened to his right to free speech? guess that only apllies if you agree with what he is saying.
I’m a killer who has killed before and will kill again isn’t really a religious doctrine.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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that would fit under the free speech. the point i was trying to make is that he wasnt fired for something job related. he got fired for speeking to a roomful of people who invited him, 4 months ago, on his own time. i dont want him being a cop, but he does have constitutional rights too.
I believe the statements this officer made would fall under the category of “Conduct unbecoming”. The police dept. has every right to fire this individual due to the loss of the public trust.
In many professions, including law enforcement and teaching, you are required to not do anything to disparage your employer whether on the clock or off. Teachers get fired all the time for the FACEBOOK PAGES. In Georgia at least, there is a moral turpitude clause in your contract. I could have been fired for this blog if I was still working in education.
Freedom of speech is a really misunderstood term. I have people pissed with me all the time because I have them blocked from commenting or do not put comment through. They incorrectly site their constitutional right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech also does not mean freedom from consequences. For example, I could call my boss a dickhead, and I could be fired for insubordination. I have the freedom to say it, and he has the freedom to fire me.
This cop clearly demonstrated unfitness for employment while exercising his free speech and thus he was terminated. Or put on administrative leave. Or whatever.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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thanks TT, i was trying to understand how the video got him in trouble. since the oath keepers are mostly law enforcement/first responders why it took so long to piss the bosses off. was it the actual video or don lemon being a dick, trying to force an issue. (i have been fired for calling my boss a dumb MF 🙂 )
That does not surprise me. 🙂
CNN is all about the money. If they get a ratings boost, especially in that coveted 18 to 49 age group, with Don Lemon, that makes him their golden goose. Even if their rating numbers are lower than other stations, in most cases if the people watching are in the 18 to 49 year old range, they can and will charge more for advertisements. I have no idea if they get a younger audience with Lemon, but if they do, we will be seeing him a lot. I do love Anderson. When John Stewart comes back from vacation it will be interesting to see what his take is on CNN and Ferguson. He’s incredibly hard on CNN and is pretend buying them.
But he’s so cuuuuuute. Yeah, I’m shallow, I know but hell I watch reality TV whaddid you expect Kierkegaard?
Lol! Yes, he is a very good looking guy. However, his douchebaggerry takes him down a notch or two ☺
If we can get over the Micheal Brown case, being the bench mark all of America’s issues involvling police misconduct and racism…..maybe we can address making sure officer’s are vetted and fellow officer’s feel responsible for reporting bad seeds. Sigh.. Much like Crystal Magnum and Duke Lacross did not mean that there is no problem with campus rape and oversight of athletes. Micheal Brown being a justified shooting does not mean we have no concerns with the cops and overuse of force. It is back to school time and I heard an argrument in the parking lot basically “so it is ok to shoot an unarmed kid for stealing cigars?” I just hustled my ass out as there was a black person involved and I was in fear of my life. HAHA one of the black woman was a cop. GALLOWS HUMOR
Just one more little thought, I knew Anjelica was an police officer because she had attended some baseball games in uniform. I wish I knew why some white lady was talking to her about Micheal Brown. It just was odd and uncomfortable.
So which person posed the question you overheard?