We haven’t had a sidebar in so long, I forgot what we called them! Anyway, there are a few interesting news stories I thought we might want to discuss here. First is the above Nancy Grace interview where she tells the father of a missing kid his son had been found. The second case is a local one where a father left his kid in the car while he was at work and the child died.
Here is what WLS Chicago has to say about the missing boy:
The missing 12-year-old boy who mysteriously turned up in his own basement was home-schooled, subjected to an intense exercise regimen, and was possibly abused, police said.
As new details emerged about the strange case, authorities are painting a picture of what life was like for Charlie Bothuell V. He was found Wednesday in the basement of the condo building where he lives with his father and stepmother near downtown Detroit, 12 days after his father reported him missing.
Bothuell was found barricaded behind a 55-gallon barrel, surrounded by bedding, soda bottles and cereal, police said. They also said they found a blood-stained PVC pipe in the home.
Then in other odd father behavior, we have a local case here where a dad says that he accidentally left his 22 month old son in the car while he went in to work. The boy died of heat exhaustion. Local police are convinced that Justin Ross Harris did not simply forget his kid was in the car but that he deliberately left him to die. Oddly this happened quite near where I live and it is now national news.
Harris put his son in the car after getting breakfast very near his office, minutes before arriving at work on June 18. He returned to his car during his lunch break to put something in the car and failed to notice the kid. There are rumors that I am not sure could be confirmed yet about Internet searches for how long it takes a pet to die in a hot car.
Harris is in jail on murder charges and child cruelty. He will not be allowed to attend his son’s funeral. That said several friends of the family spoke out about what a good father Harris was and the obituary for the child made direct reference to having two loving parents.
So what do y’all think about these two fathers?
Both stories are bizzarr! The nancy grace one is hard to tell!! I watched the video and I couldn’t breathe when he had stopped breathing. However I didn’t know if it was because of pure amazement they had found his son, or acting because he had put his son there … Idk. The other one is mind boggling because he had his son In the middle back seat. How could you not remember him? 22 months means he’s def forward facing, so he could see him. Idk I would hate to think he left his son to suffer and then die, In the heat on purpose — that his a different kind of crazy.
It was a backwards facing. No idea why.
Wow really!? I mean my pediatrician said they recommend backward facing until 24 months now (used to be 12mo)… But my son is 13 months and is in a forward facing seat because he’s too big and long for a backwards one. That’s strange, but I have forgotten my kids were in the car when they were small and sleeping but not long enough to leave them in there!
LOL, I read “22 year old man” left in the car and wondered why the hell “the kid” didn’t just open the door and leave!
Much different and sadder for 22 MONTH old 🙁
because rear facing is safer and u r supposed to rear face as long as u can. Also PEOPLE magazine just published online a story of the police saying the story of the google search about pets dying in hot car is not true. It is a very tragic accident, it is not premeditated murder.
Brianna , I agree these two cases are extremely bizarre .
I was watching Nancy Grace when she told the father his son was alive! Odd story…..police had checked the basement along with FBI AND cadaver dogs! Father’s lie detector test was inconclusive, and step mother refused to take one. Not much new since but the kid s definately old enough to say what happened. On the other story with the child in the car……..that has always been my worse nightmare!
The finding the kid in the basement story was very suspect. I sounds like from the way some stories read is that it was in the basement of a building rather than a personal basement but I am not sure. Like the kid took off and then decided to live in the basement days later. It seemed as though he had barricaded himself in behind a bunch of stuff with food.
He is with his biological mother for the time being. It seems he was sent to his father because he kept getting kicked out of school. His father doled out some tough love that involved making him work out every day. He had also just told the kid he was not going to be homeschooled anymore and would have to go back to a real school. I think he kid ran off due to the father’s strict rules. Now the father may be in trouble for that.
They said he had possibly had fresh chicken down there and it was apparent that he had NOT been going to the bathroom anywhere down there at all. Also said that they don’t really see how a boy his size could move all that stuff to block him in like that. The whole thing is bizarre indeed.
The other story is making me extremely ill. They find searches on his work computer for how long it takes for a dog to die in a hot car, and he also came out and put something on his front car seat during the day? Bullshit! I don’t see any possible way that that man didn’t know that his child was in that car. I am very interested to learn what kind of communication he and his wife had throughout that day.
Not that the first story isn’t making me ill, if in fact the boy was being abused in any way, of course. I just don’t know what to make of that one yet.
What was fucked up was that the dude was not jumping up and down for fucking JOY that his kid was alive!!! Don’t care about any other detail, if his kid was missing, he should have been elated, not speechless like a deer in headlights. His phone was dead?? Who the fuck cares??
The part that boggles my mind is Nancy says, “You kid has been found” and he didn’t even ask, “Is he okay.” Nancy waits a few beats before throwing out there that the kid is alive.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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On Nancy Grace it was reported that blood was found in the boy’s room and also a piece of PVC pipe with blood on it. They reported the father was known for doling out harsh punishment. Nancy G stated that the boy had not defecated/urinated in the basement area and had obviously recently completed a chicken dinner, so this was not food that the boy had stashed there.
Today, what ever news report I was watching stated the boy’s had to complete a rigorous physical routine daily and that the boy had refused to complete the 4,000 step workout on the elliptical. Can’t remember which show said this boy was not a problem child and had had no reported discipline issues. He had been reported to have run away another time but was found walking to his mother’s home 2 miles away. I was skeptical when I saw the father’s reaction on being told his sone had been found in the basement of his home on Nancy Grace. Something’s not right with this story, but not sure if it’s the dad. People react differently in stressful situations. I do not believe this child was hiding out for 11 days. Someone was hiding him for some reason. Maybe to wait until the bruising from a beating subsided. Dunno.
The other guy is in some deep doo-doo. Way too many people leave their children in the car these days, it can happen, I guess. But this scenario is just way too bizarre. No way.
Tamara, I knew what you meant, but you put 22 year old, not month old in your story.
I knew at any moment he was going to say ,”Elizabeth im coming to join ya hunny” let me vent what the FUCK beyonce is a better actor than him. I CRINGE AT NANCY GRACE SHOW VIICE HAIR MAKE UP EVERYTHING, BUT I SCREAMED WHEN SHE WAS SO NASTY AND SO RUDE TO THE DEAD SHE LOokED LIKE SHE WAS about to rip him a new one
Loved good ole Fred,Fred dramatic sudden selective heartattacks. Sadly his demise ended with a real one.
It’s not just fathers, over the years there have been some fucked mother’s too.
Some people just suck. I am not going to make excuses for anyone, but some parents are stressed, some are sociopaths, some have Munchhausen’s by proxy, some want attention…there are a million reasons why parents snap.
Hell here in your threads, you can see unreasonable people, on Facebook you can see crazy people, watch the news and you’ll see fruit bats everywhere…
I don’t understand vicious people, especially those that use fake names on the internet, who use their anonymity to bash people and say hateful things.
I dunno, there are an awful lot of crazy people in the world and even more on the internet.
It’s actually not nearly for the fathers to do these sorts of things. That is why I started a thread about the FATHERS.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I actually felt bad for Justin Harris when the story first broke last week…couldn’t believe they were going with felon murder right off the bat. Once bits and pieces started leaking, I no longer feel sorry for him. You take your child to Chic fil a, strap him in his seat, drive 3 minutes to your work ( with the daycare minutes away) an forget him in the car? Nope. Daycare was probably a routine thing for him… He did that deliberately. Sorry for being graphic, but, several reports have said that the baby was possibly already deceased at lunch and there would have been a noticeable odor in his car when he got in it at 4. I hope he burns Wherever it is he ends up.
Don’t forget the Ga Tech football player that was arrested today for locking his teen son in the basement for the past YEAR! Odd that the other 6 children living in the house never mentioned him.
What in the hell is wrong with people!?!
I read that after work he went straight home not to the daycare.
Maybe he did. I’ve been hearing lots of things on the radio that don’t make sense. So maybe he did.
No, he definitely didn’t go home. He absolutely found the baby in the parking lot as soon as he got in his car. That is where the cops came. According to eyewitnesses he was acting kind of bizarre, and he got so unruly towards the officers at the scene when they were asking him questions that they actually had to place him in the back of the police car.
I don’t know , but when one of my kids were 22mos. Old and I even smelled like food..they wanted to eat.
What a painful way for baby to die.
So he researched how long a dog would last in a hot car.
Who does that?
Kid in basement is a strange tale. I suppose cops are attempting to build solid case.
What’s the lad saying?
Reminds me of little Chirron from Portland. Everything points to his stepmonster..but she’s still free because cops need to build stronger case. There’s no zombie apocalypse. .just crazies who are possessed by evil…and they’re lining up to show their worth.
Personal true story. My sister (who is now dead) attempted to kill me in this fashion. It was 88 degrees when this happened. My sister lived in Yuma, AZ She invited me out and took me to Laughlin, I was younger and had started to gain some weight. I was not medically fat, but I had been thin all my life, and was getting pudgy. (disclaimer, I am as big as a barn now) ANYWAY, Laughlin, for those who do not know is a mini Vegas. I’d never stayed in a casino, but my thing was “people stay up all night gambling” I wanted to do that. so did while my sestra (hey clone club) went to bed. No problem for me, major prob for her. I sat at the roulette table drinking watered down free white Russians all night.
She was pissed. VERY PISSED. Because drinking in casinos is bad and shit!? Anyway there are stories all over the local news about kids and pets dying in cars after very short times. Accidents. Terrible accidents. So we take off presumably on plan to go back to Yuma. I am in the back seat and her kid (who was of legal age, my siblings are much older than me, like old enough to be my parents except for one) was navigating. So I went to sleep expecting to wake up in Yuma.
Then I woke up in a car with all the windows rolled up in Lake Havasu or someplace where the Golden Gate Bridge was. I crawled out of the car and into a store, and they call 911 and gave me water and basically saved my life.
At some point when I was revived I said to my sister… “Jesus Christ! Don’t you know how many kids are dying in cars this year? How could you do this and not even open a window?” And her response was “I wanted to know how long it would take a really fat chick to die.” Nice.
We were close. She invited me out. And because I stayed up all night she wanted me to die.
Whatever. I killed her later.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Can’t tell if joking…. well if what you say is true then that is horrible. In Australia it’s very easy for children and adults to die from dehydration in the wrong scenario. If my brother did something like that to me I’d probably try to kill him too (how sadistic would you have to be to leave a friend/family member in danger). I hope it was a clean death at least ;).
Oh no, she definitely tried to kill me. Not funny at all.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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My sister and I were um, clearly estranged after that and then she was diagnosed with stage four cancer. And I was chosen to give her the morphine that put her out of her misery.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> Personal true story. My sister (who is now dead) attempted to kill me in > this fashion. It was 88 degrees when this happened. My sister lived in > Yuma, AZ She invited me out and took me to Laughlin, I was younger and had > started to gain some weight. I was not medically fat, but I had been thin > all my life, and was getting pudgy. (disclaimer, I am as big as a barn now) > ANYWAY, Laughlin, for those who do not know is a mini Vegas. I’d never > stayed in a casino, but my thing was “people stay up all night gambling” I > wanted to do that. so did while my sestra (hey clone club) went to bed. No > problem for me, major prob for her. I sat at the roulette table drinking > watered down free white Russians all night. > > She was pissed. VERY PISSED. Because drinking in casinos is bad and > shit!? Anyway there are stories all over the local news about kids and > pets dying in cars after very short times. Accidents. Terrible accidents. > So we take off presumably on plan to go back to Yuma. I am in the back seat > and her kid (who was of legal age, my siblings are much older than me, like > old enough to be my parents except for one) was navigating. So I went to > sleep expecting to wake up in Yuma. > > Then I woke up in a car with all the windows rolled up in Lake Havasu or > someplace where the Golden Gate Bridge was. I crawled out of the car and > into a store, and they call 911 and gave me water and basically saved my > life. > > At some point when I was revived I said to my sister… “Jesus Christ! > Don’t you know how many kids are dying in cars this year? How could you do > this and not even open a window?” And her response was “I wanted to know > how long it would take a really fat chick to die.” Nice. > > We were close. She invited me out. And because I stayed up all night she > wanted me to die. > > Whatever. I killed her later. > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
Uhh, now I feel bad about my comment. Sorry 🙁
No need for you to feel sorry my own sister did not.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I tried to forgive. Because, CANCER. and she came to my house uninvited on the beach. stayed for a week or so and then left my day there (for 9/11 which I know she could not predict and he didn’t “get it”) She also went though he whole town basically grifting… It was horrible. She took out a big life insurance policy on her kid somehow, she had the church replacing he floor and stuff. Basically she went out trying to money grab. It was horrible.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
> No need for you to feel sorry my own sister did not. > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Tamara Tattles [email protected]> wrote: > >>
Family, death, cancer and grifting always is complicated. My mother had stage 4 cervical cancer and actually beat it surprisingly, so I understand that stress. I’m glad that you came out of it a witty and funny individual at least. 😉 showing you love from downunder.
Wow TT. I’m really sorry all that happened to you.
I feel like every child that is ‘home schooled’ should be checked on maybe once a year or so. It appears to be very easy for them to fall between the cracks. I hope that both scenarios are investigated and proper action taken. How easy is it for these parents to abuse their children and keep them from interacting with others who can help them by relying on the fact they are ‘home schooled’.
Nene has her kid “homeschooled” so she can take him on everything she does…
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Isn’t ‘home schooled’ in that scenario just code for: we travel too much for work/self indulgent activities to allow our child an education involving other like minded teenagers and adults who are educated.
No home schooled in this case meant no schools would take the kid. He was expelled for some reason.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Unfortunately, there are many many children that go to private and public schools that get abused and still fall through the cracks.
I agree. Just appears that there are LESS checks and balances for those home schooled; so more likely to fall between the proverbial cracks.
Bad parenting is my pet peeve. The world would be a better place if bad parents faced more serious legal consequences, maybe make people think twice before actually having kids.
I believe people need licenses to have children (need one to drive and scuba dive). Prove you are a loving educated parent then procreate. I know this will get me a lot of hate but I don’t care.
What do you propose to do if one parent was deemed licensable but the other was not?
I don’t think education has anything to do with parenting skills.
No hatred, I just don’t understand the logic.
More importantly, how on earth would you so women from becoming pregnant. Would they have to take a course to become licensed at that time? What if they failed? Where would all of the babies go?
Geez it’s interesting how the karma played out right in this lifetime with regards to your sister & you being the one to administer the morphine. I’m so sorry that happened. Is it at all possible that the cancer she had messed with her mind making her mentally ill or something?
I actually know a young mother that left her child in the car and he died. I had heard about her prior to meeting her through a friend of mine who was her sister-in-law. I was prepared to hate her. How in the name of all that was holy could anyone leave their child in the car like that. The friend finally told me the story. She had just turned 20, had a 6 month old son, was working full time, going to school, her husband had left her and she was living with her parents. The one thing that her parents did for her each day was to take her son to day care for her because she had to be at work early because she had to open the building for the other employees. This particular day, her mother had not been able to take her son so she had taken him with her. She had overslept and was running late for work. The baby had fallen asleep during the ride. She planned to run by the office to open the door. When she arrived, lots of employees were waiting including her boss. She jumped out and went to get everyone inside and then went on to open all the doors that she normally did during her normal activities of her job. This was a very stressed woman. Later in the day, it all came back to her and she ran screaming out to her car to find her child dead. 911 was called and the police arrived. All she could do was to scream for someone to kill her, she wanted to be with her child. She was arrested and went through a trial. She didn’t want to even fight because she felt she deserved whatever punishment was coming to her. The punishment of man’s law could never equal what she was doing to herself. She was acquitted at the trial and it was deemed an accident. She attempted suicide several times after the trial. This young woman would not even give herself permission to say her child’s name because she felt she had been so evil she didn’t deserve the right to even call herself his mother. I have never seen anyone unable to forgive themselves for as long as she did. She finally met my friend’s brother, was very honest about her past but he asked to marry him anyway. After 10 years of marriage and knowing how much her husband wanted a child of his own, she finally consented to have one. They had a healthy beautiful boy who has finally brought back life into this mother. She still cries on Mother’s Day but some are tears of sadness and some are tears of joy. Now I know I’ll probably get lots of you saying you can’t believe in something like this truly being an accident and up until I met her I felt the same way. They are few and far between. However, occasionally I think a horrific accident can happen.
A really sad story. I knew a lady who as a single mother struggled with alcohol. She fell asleep with her baby next to her in bed, passed out/went to sleep and smothered the child. Devasted everybody including the police who arrived.
So sad, and I’ve also heard similar stories, and I do believe many – parents that are very stressed, early mornings and a change in routine. Plus, the baby is asleep in the car so nothing to alert them (crying, talking, etc.).
When I was young – maybe 8? I and 2 of my cousins were in the backseat asleep, their parents were driving, it was in the summer, a hot country off the Mediterranean, anyway, they were driving us to a summer beach home, they pulled the car into a small one car garage made of cinder block with a tin roof, the adults got out and forgot the 3 of us in the car. The heat woke one of us up who woke up the others and we had to figure out how to open the garage door. We then walked back into the house, to the utterly surprised parents who were busy doing stuff in the house. They really did forget us in the car. I guess it happens.
One of my friends who has two kids went shopping at a big box store, toddler in tow, infant in cart – they parked the cart in the cart caddy (with baby) and loaded the toddler and all their purchases in the car and drove off when one of them realized, “hey, where’s the baby?” and they went back and got her. These were 2 good parents.
Anyway, I’m sure many people have tried to kill kids in hot cars, and the internet search by the dad seems suspect, but I think it has accidentally happened to good parents who were distracted by the daily grind.
Hannah, such a sad story. Glad she has moved on with her life and found some joy. Her husband sounds wonderful.
That’s a very sad story. Of course it CAN happen, but this guy’s story has a lot of stuff in it that doesn’t pass the sniff test.
I blame the wine and the crazy lady overshare for the bizarre dreams I had all night. I kept “finding children.” A girl about six, a baby boy…. I was taking them to family functions and just telling them I found a couple of kids and they were mine now. This seemed perfectly normal to everyone in the dream, even Banjo.
I keep telling y’all I gots the crazy.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oh no!
Well, at least you didn’t forget the kids in the car 🙂
My two sisters “couldn’t help” with the 8-year care of our parents, arguing in one case, her “job”, and in the other case “her marriage” (with two self-sufficient teen sons). I had just been diagnosed with M.E., but my efforts to survive hadn’t a chance against their lifestyles, and they argued “that M.E. doesn’t exist.”. Qualified and better brains disagreed, but itI was myself, or nothing, into the breach. I somehow managed. We last spoke at a funeral: 12 years ago. “To what does Dad owe the honour?” I asked.
at 22months you would think by lunchtime the kid would have had to pee or poo. With the heat theres no way to avoid the smell, we need more of mommy and daddys home life to see why he did this. The basement kid was in his dads basement but there is a connecting passage that leads to other townhome basements. Wonder if the kid found someone to hide at/with until cops had checked and came back when he thought it was over. Or was at bio moms and this was trying to get dad in trouble
I know this doesn’t compare to forgetting a kid, but, when I lived in Seattle, on the news we were alerted to a ferry boat closure – apparently someone left their car on the boat and it was assumed that perhaps there was a bomb on it, so bomb team, et al.
Turned out a gal that normally was a “walk-on” commuter had some sort of schedule change wherein she had to take her car. She parked and went up on deck for the 30 minute ride. Then, like every other day, she walked off the boat and walked to work. She totally forgot her car, on the ferry!!! She didn’t even realize it until she heard the ferries were closed due to the incident.
I realize a kid is different than a car – but come on, a 2000 pound CAR!
In regards to the son who died in the car, how often did the father take son to daycare at his job?
Was it daily or was this daycare used sporadically?
I need to know that in order to answer the question, why didn’t the Dad go to the daycare after work to pick up his son instead of driving off?
I completely understand forgetting a child in a car seat but after work IF you picked him up daily from daycare why forget then also?
I remember my Mom’s arm hitting me in face every time she braked hard. That was our front seat protection. Funny.
Sorry TT about what happened to you with your sister. What about your niece?
She had to know what her Mom tried to do to you.
The guy “found” the kid in the parking lot of work afterward. My sister’s kid… well… I’m going to go without answering that because he probably reads here.
Tamara, I am so sorry that happened to you. My mother used to leave us in a hot car for hours in the hot SE Tx sun. She would go into Pier 1where her friend worked and just chat it up while her 3 kids suffered. Once, one of my older brothers called my grandmother after we had been suffering and couldn’t take it anymore. It was a bad scene. We were in trouble for a very long time. My older brothers are sociopaths-my Dr said so- I stopped speaking to both of them about a year ago and my Xanax intake is half of what it was. I don’t mean to whine and hope this wasn’t too long, I just want you to know that you’re not alone, and some people have stupid crazy families. Soooo much more I could say, but its old, and time for me to move on and get on with my life, and not hijack this thread!
Thanks Khaleesi! not an overshare.
Yes I know he found his child after he drove away from work.
If he went daily to daycare AFTER work but did NOT that day then it seems suspicious.
That the Dad forgot both before and after work seems odd.
I understand forgetting a child, I really do, in most cases. So sad.
I feel bad for your sisters child.
My parents left my step-brother and me alone in a car a lot when we were about 4 yrs old. They said they were shopping. One day they left us in an alley. I got sick and rolled the window down and threw up. Someone obviously noticed and the police came and brought us to the police station. I remember they gave me an ice cream cone. My parents came in frantically. As far as I know they didn’t get in any trouble. That was 65 yrs ago. Another time I remember them leaving us in a hot car for what seemed like hours. Obviously we had the windows wound down. Today, there isn’t any excuse for leaving a child in an unattended car with all the publicity and warnings that are out there.
I know of no wide eye awake two year old. That sits quietly in a car. So he has no excuse . To say he forgot he was in there. Unless the kid, fell asleep,and because of his sleeping(quietness) . He forgot him there. Whatever the case. I’m not buying it.
What kind of car was he driving? SUV. It would be hard to miss a 2 year old unless it’s not part of your normal routine. His car could have been junky, because everyone does not keep a tidy car. It is so sad to hear, when this sort of thing happens.
There has to be more to the story related to the boy in the basement. Why would he report him missing, if he knew where he was?
Dude that left the kid in the car, guilty as hell and I hope they fry the bastard even if it was a mistake…I hear stories like this all the time and the parents always get off the hook…I’m sick of hearing about it. I don’t have air in my car and its hot as heck inside even with the windows open….so just the thought of having the windows up….fry all these losers that put a child through this and then suffer!!
With regards to the second story, it seems the father left the child in the car on purpose. Then went back to make sure the child had suffocated. Absolutely heartless.
I could never imagine forgetting you put a child in your car no matter how freakin busy your life is. A pot on the stove,yes, picking someone up, yes, where you put your keys, yes…strapping a human being into your car, NO FUCKING WAY. Especially after stopping at fast food just before, that BS.
The other story, too strange to call. FBI and local checked the house 1st. Jon Benet Ramsey anyone?
strapping the kid in THREE MINUTES BEFORE. OTOH he fed him breakfast…why feed the kid before you kill him?
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I hadn’t heard that he fed him. Just that he stopped and got food. Not saying that didn’t happen, I just didn’t hear about that. Also, at the time he went into chic fil a, witnesses say that the baby was awake. That kid must have fallen asleep really fast. Also, the obituary said that he loved to play a game while riding in the car where he would say “red car” whenever they passed a red car. He loved cars and had just learned the word red or something like that. It said all that in the obit according to Nancy Grace.
He fed him to make it look good, like he was a good father. Backfired because that would have made him less likely to forget. Why?? Did he have insurance policy on the kid?
Yeah, so did the fbi, and they even brought in the dogs.
Yes way, it happens to good caring parents all the time. Mostly parents “catch” their mistake in time.
We are all trying to do to many things at one time or thinking about what we need to do.
Lori – the father drove to another parking lot about 2 tenths of a mile from his work place parking lot.
Oh shit. I didn’t catch that part. 🙁
You wrote 22 year old son. It should say 22 month old son. 🙂
Yeah, something is very fishy with the 12 year old. They need to be taking a real good look at the step mother. Thank God the boy is with his biological mother. HOPEFULLY she is better for him. Hopefully.
Duhhhhhhhhh
Brianna shut up!!
Ok…I’m calling it…douchebag fathers both cases because both are irresponsible.
TT, sorry about what happened with your sister. Inconceivable.
Ever think about writing a book…non autobiographical but you could use your experiences as a teacher and growing up and I think you have a helluva book in you.
One of my favorite books is the Glass Castle by Jeannette Walls. What her parents put her thru was unbelievable but it’s inspiring because it shows you the resilience of the human spirit and how she overcame it. I could see you writing like that.
NEW INFO ON THE NEWS TONIGHT BOTH PARENTS IN THE BABY IN THE CAR CASE ADMIT TO RESEARCHING “HOW LONG IT TAKES TO FOR A CHILD TO DIE IN A CAR!” MOTHER IS YET TO BE CHARGED WITH ANYTHING.
Yeah, that is not news that ever bodes well for one’s claim of innocence….I think they should be looking into recent diagnoses of the baby. Maybe they were told something about his health or something that pushed them both over the edge. (Not offered as an excuse — because I can barely imagine doing this to a dog, let alone a baby — but as motive.)
It’s really unthinkable that TWO parents would conspire to kill a baby. The health issue makes a lot of sense for a motive though, I suppose, but hey there is always Obamacare! Oh wait, Georgia is a state that is fighting Obamacare so we are all penalized with no subsidies. It would cost me $700-$800 a month and then, NO ONE TAKES OBAMACARE HERE!
My special needs niece has a large court settlement to provide for her healthcare. Somehow she was forced into Obamacare and the hospitals won’t take her PRIVATE INSURANCE anymore as it was forced into Obamacare. Oddly she suddenly became eligible for Medicaid (Medicare?) and that is her primary insurance here because no one will take he private insurance that she pays for herself anymore because it is considered “Obamacare.”
um sorry for the political rant. But it’s all a clusterfuck in GA right now with regard to health care because we are a “red state.”
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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By Alexis Stevens
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The mother of the 22-month-old who died after being left inside an SUV told Cobb County police she also researched children dying in hot vehicles, according to new court documents released Sunday morning.
“Leanna Harris, the child’s mother, was also questioned regarding the incident and made similar statements regarding researching in car deaths and how it occurs,” search warrant affidavits obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution state.
The timing of those online searches and investigators’ findings have not been released. But within about five hours of the toddler’s death on June 18, his father, Justin Ross Harris, was arrested and charged with murder and cruelty to children.
Leanna Harris has not been identified as a suspect in the death of her son, Cooper. But she was also questioned in the hours after the boy’s death after he was left in his carseat inside a Hyundai Tucson for at least seven hours while his father went to work. On Saturday, Leanna Harris spoke at her son’s funeral.
“Ross was and is a wonderful father,” Harris said to the applause of about 250 mourners, The AJC reported.
The mother also asked the police to let her get on the computer to pull off pictures for use in the funeral program. It was denied.
Sounds like they were in on it together. This is getting really sick.
Yeah, who researches how a child dies in a hot vehicle right before their child dies in a hot vehicle? A guilty person, that’s who.
It sounds like they sure was. Remember we are in a sick world and parents kill their kids all the time.
As to intetnet searches then I’ld be in a lot of trouble with all the bizarre searches Ive done.
Whenever I read or hear anything I usually look it up.
I’ve searched meth recipes, incinerator toilets, house fires and insurance, back injuries/disability, stolen car payouts, how long do drugs stay in a system, and the list goes on.
No I don’t do drugs, lose a car or want to cook meth. Curious, that’s all.
I just caught a minor update on basement boy. He told police that his father abused him with the PVC pipe, the father admitted it. Kid says the step-mother was the one that banished him to the basement and barricaded him in (while apparently feeding him chicken).
Also, the state is “trying to” (trying to?) remove the younger siblings from the home.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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That father has some fucking balls. What a dirt bag. I hope the police and the fbi make him pay restitution for all of the money they wasted searching for the boy when they knew damn well where he was. I wonder how it is that the fbi dogs missed him. It really pisses me off when people waste these resources while in the meantime children who have really been kidnapped could possibly be saved. All in all though, it is a good thing that this happened only because now the boy, and hopefully the other children in that home will be spared any more abuse. I just don’t get why they would report him missing in the first place. Why not just call the school and say he would be out or something (if that’s even what prompted then to make up a story)?
I had a eery feeling about the “left my baby in the car story” I NEVER believed him from the start and now come to find out he and wifey goggled how hot it must be in the car for a kid to die…smh.
I was watching Nancy Grace when she announced they found his son in the basement…he looked stupid and guilty of something…both are sad stories
HLN is doing live coverage of car baby case from 1-5 tomorrow. I am not sure if they will actually have a camera in the courtroom or not. Someone remind me to watch.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thanks. Just set my dvr.