Andy wastes no time in greeting the guys for the reunion and gets right into the questions.
Most embarrassing moments for the guys? Fredrik says the time he dumped a drink on Luis’s head. He starts to explain how terrible he feels when he sees that. He mentions he is twice Luis’s size and it just made him look awful. Right away Luis jumps in and starts talking about Fredrik always talks down to him like that. It’s sort of out of no where!
Luis says that the fight was his most embarrassing moment also. Ryan says the naked shower scene was his.
Andy pointed out to Ryan that he sold the least amount of real estate this season. Ryan said he was more interested in showing the listing with the most interesting stories. He said the year before he did some really fantastic deals and all people wanted to talk about was the pig. So he focused on the sales with the most interesting quirks and stories. Fredrik says that Ryan has the least amount of sales and that he’s basically “small potatoes.”
Fredrik has never gotten over the season where Ryan pretended to play his sex tape at an open house. Fredrik is an award-winning porn star. Of course Andy spends a lot of time discussing this.
Fredrik says he has never called Ryan or Luis a name and they call him names all the time. Ryan says he’s made fun of his friends since he was little, that is just how he is. Fredrik needs a tougher skin.
Ryan has called Fredrik a fake crier. Andy asks Luis if he thinks Fredrik’s tear are for real or used for sympathy. Luis says. that sometimes he thinks Fredrik is not genuine. Luis points out that Fredrik instigated the situation with Ryan and the porn movie. It was all revenge for Fredrik’s bad behavior.
Fredrik invited Luis to join his team and he said no. Luis prefers to work solo. Fredrik was hurt by that.
Lots of general discussion about Fredrik’s success. Fredrik credits his team for his success. Ryan says that Fredrik “hides behind his team.” Fredrik says for the past three seasons he sold much more than what Ryan and Luis sell combined.
Ryan and Luis are on one couch and Fredrik is on the other. Ryan and Luis both seem to be teamed up against Fredrik. This allows Fredrik to play the victim. Fredrik talks about Ryan’s music video and the fact it did not show the actual sky garage property. Luis agrees. Fredrik says he thinks the apartment is well over priced, by at least ten million and it discredits the show because the price is so laughable. Fredrik says that the sale prices are all public information, so everyone can follow the story and see that he is right when and if the sky garage property sells. A quick google of the property fails to pull up anything about the place selling and several articles about how grossly priced the place is. Point, Fredrik.
Time for Derek and Amelia to join the couches and talk relationships. Fredrik looks REALLY miserable. Derek and Fredrik argue about having a baby. Derek doesn’t think Fredrik will cut back on work and he will have to stop his career to take care of the baby. Derek doesn’t want to be a full-time dad while Fredrik continues working. Derek says he thinks a baby would be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Fredrik doesn’t know what that means. Andy says it means he doesn’t think the relationship would survive it. It sounds like the relationship is shaky to start with and that is why Derek says things like “a baby is a lifetime commitment” on the show. Derek says he will never want to be a housewife. He just said straight out that he doesn’t think he will ever want a child. Derek is about to have a nervous breakdown. A caller asks if Fredrik will leave Derek if he never wants to have kids. Fredrik says no. He is a good negotiator. He hopes he can bring Derek around. This was very sad.
Andy asks Luis about his love life and his desire to have kids. Luis is after of being in another relationship because he is afraid of losing himself another relationship. Luis says he changed himself for the relationship and he doesn’t want to do that again. Luis is very sad that he has no one in his life like the other two. He is on an incredible journey alone.
Next week is the second and final part of the reunion where the Fredrik and Luis situation gets worked out. And then Million Dollar Listing Miami premieres.
I like these men while not liking all their quirks. Love, love, Derek!
The New York they share is what I had wanted to see from RHONYC except more.
I still like Ryan and even selling less doesn’t mean much to me.
I really liked this season the best!! I disliked Ryan last season but I saw a softer side this time. I’m sure it has to do with Emilia!
Tamara, u mention that Luis interupting Fredrik came out of nowhere but it came from Fredrik always being snarky n throwing the “I am twice his size” come on! He is NOT half the size n Luis’ point was that Fredrik belittles people. Yes he is good at what he does n is quite the character (I like him) however, he acts like he has no clue why Luis won’t work with him!! I am sooo glad Luis stood up to him! Especially when Luis told him he will never grow if he is not open minded!
Sorry do long!!! Great Reunion!
No mdention of Ryan’s Ooompa Loompa spray tan complexion? I lol’d when Andy asked him why he wears his pants so tight. Ryan didn’t have a real answer… there is no way his leg muscles have gotten that much bigger since he bought every pair of pants he owns.
I loved this reunion even if the whole Fredrik/Derek situation has made me sad. Those two have been my TV dream couple since I first saw them together and I don’t like this talk of their relationship not surviving. Fredrik is so obviously in love and Derek seems so grounded and a good stabilizing influence. Sigh…but I’m afraid you might be right about the relationship being shaky to start with.
While Derek is dead right and a baby IS a lifetime commitment, your comment has a heckuvalotta merit Tamara, and it’s making me wonder about the houses Fredrik is constantly buying (a new one each SEASON?!!) and the trips they are always taking. Is Fritters STILL trying to win Derek over? Why would he feel the need if he felt secure? Who knows? Reality TV is a trick done with smoke & mirrors so we can’t really know. Fingers crossed for these two though. They are my favorite TV couple.
Ryan, well…Ryan is Ryan, and he’s made no bones about his first dream being to be an actor so it’s not surprising that he was more focused on making the “show” than making the deals. I don’t trust him as far as I can throw him and wouldn’t put it past him to play Luis like a mini violin. Luis is genuine…Fredrik, in his own way, is genuine…Ryan? Ummm, not so much. He’s not quite as emotionally open as either of the others so I’d keep an eye on him if I were Luis.
–Oh yeah, Amelia WAS on the show last night wasn’t she. I’d forgotten.
Luis has won my damned heart. He’s so NORMAL, if a bit hyper at times, but he seems a genuine person. Very much who he is. He’s willing to learn and seems to be winning well wishers along the way. I also noticed that he’s not a chap to be swayed by personal liking. He was willing to come down on Fredrik’s side about that extremely UNDERwhelming Skyvault video for the extremely UNDERwhelming Skyvault listing. That’s the thing at bottom both Luis & Fredrik are real estate men, businessmen. At bottom Ryan, is an entertainer. I was also impressed with the way he tried to understand Derek’s position on the Milla issue and seemed to be trying to bring the deal home by encouraging Fredrik to be willing to give Derek time to build his career and planting the seed with Derek that once that was done, he should be more willing to revisit the possibility of children.
A very nice and impressive attempt at empathy and at carving out a win-win situation…and that too for a man he’s having issues with.
Aside from that I don’t know what his gripe is with Fredrik. Yeah Fredrik CAN be a bit paternal in his approach to Luis but the kid IS young, and his size only adds to the illusion of being the kid brother who needs help & advice and I can see how Luis doesn’t want to be swallowed up in the Fredrik Eklund Group juggernaut but want’s to make his own name as a broker and on his own terms.
Considering what the kid has managed so far…he could very well get there.
I love Luis even more with every episode. But Fredrik and Derek’s situation is really heartbreaking. I feel that without being on the same page about being parents, it can’t really survive happily. It’s a shame because they really do love each other, but that is a really big adjustment for both of them, and I’m not sure Fredrik can truly be happy with Derek’s decision.
The reunion was great and it was done right. The three guys rehashed the season, talked to each other fairly nice and seemed to respect each other. Ryan probably would be happier as a leading man and Frederik and Luis are businessmen. I wonder why Frederik and Derek did not talk about having children before they married. I liked the reunion because there was no screaming at each other, they seemed to listen and respect each other and it was good to watch. That Luis is a charmer, I so badly wanted to give him a hug last night – I wanted to hug Frederik too. I thought it was a really good show.
I loved this reunion because of how they conducted themselves. It was hard to watch Fredrik and Derek. Sadly,it appears their relationship will not survive. I believe they did talk about having kids before their marriage. Until last night, at least in front of the camera, Derek has always led Fredrik to believe that eventually they would have children. The finality of Derek’s remarks about never having children was heartbreaking. i believe Fredrik would adapt and change his work habits once they have a child. My views have changed regarding Derek. He might not be the man Fredrik thought he was marrying; although, not wanting to sign a pre-nup should have been a clue.
Working couples have kids all the time. Instead of a new house, Fredrik, tell Derek you’ll hire a goddamn nanny. Geez
Why don’t intelligent people discuss important, life changing issues like children before they get married?? Especially when having a child is SO IMPORTANT to you, as it appears to be with Fredrik. Marriage is more like a phase in people’s lives these days and in no way taken seriously anymore by anyone. Straight or gay. Why even bother having a ceremony or at least tweak the vows to read “until we disagree or get bored with each other do us part”. Fredrik grates on my nerves lately. All his theatrical facial expressions and weirdness this season turned me off. I don’t care how many houses he sells. A jerk is a jerk. As for Ryan and Luis, I hope their love affair lasts. Ryan could use a solid friend.
Fredrik’s exaggerated (fake) facial expressions are wearing on me, too.
His selfishness is getting more obvious, or maybe worse.
His regret was that his mistreatment of another person made him look bad. Good grief.
He seemed not to understand cause and effect, as it concerned Ryan’s pretending to play that porno. I was glad Luis said something.
Fredrik pretended at the reunion that Ryan revealed the porno’s existence. But wasn’t it that Michael guy from Season 1? Fredrik is talented at making enemies.
Perhaps Derek has seen something in F. that makes him not want to bring a child into the relationship?
Ryan just looked downright weird. Orange skin and bright white teeth! Who told him that was a good look. Men are too vain and conceited nowadays. To Me is seems like Luis may have been a product of subtle racism from Ryan and Fredrick. Not really feeling any of them at this point. We’ll see what next season brings.
Frederick was right about Ryan’s video. It showed nothing. When it should of showed the apartment. From what little I saw of the place it wouldn’t be worth 23 million dollars. Ryan can’t get out of his own way. Delusions of grandeur with this one.
Frederick needs to be very careful with this baby thing and understand that his husband does not want children. I am sure he made that known before marriage and this subject was spoken about because its a subject that is important to Frederick. I can’t imagine the subject never coming up beforehand. Frederick thinks he can change Derek’s mind. When he said that down the road he thinks he can Derek rolled his eyes. This will be the thing that breaks the marriage I think. Derek wants a career and a way of his own. Wants a life. The last thing he wants is for Frederick to have financial control over him and place him in the position of a housewife. He see’s this as a loss of freedom. Frederick may never leave but that doesn’t mean that Derek will not.
*loss of freedom, financial stability, and loss of control.
I feel like everyone is forgetting the meeting when Ryan listed the sky apartment. He suggested a much lower price, the client insisted on the 23 million. The apt. is unique because of the garage, locker, etc. Sometimes you have to go with what the client wants, so they can see their price was unreasonable. I don’t feel this is all Ryan’s fault (the listing price). The delusions of grandeur were the client’s.
Yes, I did forget that but I am not basing saying he has delusions of grandeur on that listing. I am basing it as the way “I” view his behavior as a whole.
I thought Derek had a kid from a previous relationship. Tamara, can you confirm? If so, I find this storyline ridiculous and all for the show.
Fredrik is as jerk. If a work colleague talked to me that way in front of clients they would be my enemy for life. I don’t understand why Fred is getting a pass here?? He’s beyond rude. His big talk about the money is annoying as well. It’s in poor taste.
Ryan definitely grew on me this season. Kudos to him for cutting Luis that check and making amends.
Sorry, but I think Luis is in the closet. He and his ex-girlfriend scene showed no chemistry and frankly it reminded me of Ricky Martin’s in the closet years when he’s pull out his beard for PR. Of course I could be wrong, but that’s my take.
Finally, I wouldn’t buy any property from these jokers. High five to Fred for getting top dollar and pushing for his listing clients.
Fred is a scheming egotistical ass. If anyone trusts him after seeing him on tv, they are a fool. Same goes for Ryan; and he a real mean ass. Luis is cute as a button and way too logical, hard-working and honest to be involved with either of these two numnuts.
I have to laugh when you call Luis honest. In his first season, he used fraudulent pictures of an apartment to lure potential buyers. He and his brother were laughing while preparing the ad and Luis made jokes about what he was going to say to clients when they actually saw the apartment. No “honest” person would ever do such a thing. BTW, he was called to task by his employer and advised he would be fired if he ever did anything like that again.
JB, that’s right, I forgot about that. Why would he think people wouldn’t notice? I like Luis as much as the next guy but he was either being dishonest, stupid or both. But I suppose “by the end of the day,” (everyone take a drink) he sold it and made the big bucks, which is what they care about.
These guys make a buttload in commissions.
I really like this show, thanks for a great recap 🙂
Fredrik is at heart a swede (even though living in NYC) and the longing for children is greater among the gays here than in USA. Not sure why, maybe something different culturally?
I would really recommend reading Fredriks book, not sure if its translated into english though. If there’s any swedes here – read “Bananflugornas herre”.
So recap the highlights of the book for us! 🙂
Long time since I read to remember specifics, but I’ll try 🙂
Fredrik is the child of a famous economic (in Sweden) and lives sort of a normal swedish life but always feeling out of place, like he doesnt belong. And one day someone from a porn company in USA contacts him and asks “ever thought of doing movies?”. And feeling like he wants more from life, something else than what he has, he accepts. The book follows his journey from Sweden to the famous gay porn movie he did, very personal and interesting. And somewhat moving I thought. Just so you all know also, he didnt do it for the money – he comes from a wealthy family. Can give you a more detailed recap another day if you want 🙂
Yes, interesting! Thanks!
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Miroir, can you please translate the title for me? I’d love a recap as well.
Oh yes please Miroir!
In english the title is “Lord of the banana flies”, a play with the title to a classic.
Just finished watching. LOVED IT. This is what a reunion should be. These guys have a lot of chemistry IMO. They are so fun to watch. And when it gets serious there is nothing boring about these guys. I can’t believe I wasn’t going to watch this show. Thanks to this blog I gave it a try and it turned out to be a wonderful escape for me.
Ryan: Smart Ass extraordinaire and I happen to love a good smart ass. I agree with Romareads that I hope Ryan and Luis can stay friends because Ryan really needs a friend.
Luis: Sweet and passionate but I worry for him. He is crying because he’s afraid that if he falls in love again, he will lose himself, because he changes for her, and then lose her, because she wants the man before he changed for her. WTF. He needs to find someone that accepts him the way he is, or embrace being alone.
Fredrik: Very successful, but isn’t it sad that the thing he wants the most is probably not going to happen. Derek does NOT want children. I don’t think he could have made that any clearer. I think Fredrik needs to respect that. I had no idea that Fredrik got an award for “Best Solo.” I’m impressed.
I know you guys will say it’s all scripted (especially the baby stuff) but I was totally buying all of this reunion. Can’t wait for part two. I don’t think I’ve ever said I was looking forward to part two of a reunion before.
@Valerie ~ I agree with you about the scripted part of your comment. If it was scripted, then all three of these guys should win an award for flawlessly following a script, because they didn’t miss a single beat. I even believe the baby part too.
I agree Gingersnap, they didn’t miss a single beat.
The review on the book was simply a “hmph.” Now how can you trust a review like that? lol
I love this show. The characters are interesting flaws and all. There is no bizarre ratchet behavior and I don’t feel disgusted at myself after watching it.
I love Luis and think he is a kind and genuine person. Maybe the gayest is off but I don’t think he is gay. Fredrik can be just enough of a jerk that you can still like him. Ryan has softened up a bit but I can’t see what anyone would see in him other than money. He seems sleazy and would sell out his grandma for a sale.
I feel bad for Fredrik and Derek. I like Derek but think he did a bait and switch with Fredrik. He knew how much he wanted a child. Had he said an unequivocal no, i don’t think there would have been a marriage. I think he made it appear that he was on the fence. Then again maybe he doesn’t want them with Fredrik.
I adore all the guys, I love their show…but com’on Luis…there’s no crying in real estate!!
Maybe Derek made himself clear from the very beginning and Frederick wanting what he wants and thinking he is a master manipulator thought he’d change Derek’s mind somewhere down the line when they are married.
Josie, I totally agree with you about Derek doing a “bait and switch” on Fredrik. Until the reunion, at least on camera, Derek never once said he didn’t want children. He let Fredrik, and us viewers, believe he wanted to wait a while longer.
Well, yeah… didn’t they show Derek being okay about the Mila thing before they married?
Could he have been after a green card?
Then again, why should he *want* to be a housewife? And Fredrik is self-centered, a prick, and his life revolves around sales.
I see everyone commenting on Derek’s refusal to have a kid with Fredrik… How the heck do you not have this discussion before you tie the knot? And if you did, Fredrik you got duped and on those grounds, I would definately rethink my relationship. Bottom line, haven’t you guys ever here of the word Nanny?
That is a good point however, even with a nanny, Derek would still need to be a primary caregiver which he feels is too much for him. There is no way that Fredrik never mentioned wanting kids. He knew he had a high powered job. Who else did Derek think would take care of the child?
Excellent recap. I initially liked Ryan, then thought he became an ass, then saw a turning point when he was stuck in NYC alone during the storm and liked him again. He really seemed attentive to Amelia as they sat on the couch.
I did not like Luis last season. He seems less arrogant and more sincere this season. Does his twin brother still live with him? I wondered if his brother not being there had anything to do with his soul searching and loneliness.
Poor Fredrik. He sounded like the teenage girl who thinks she can change the guy, and the guy doesn’t want to change. I hope they are getting nonreality tv couples counseling. I don’t like to see any marriage breakup, but they clearly are not at the same point in their lives.
I’m looking forward to next week.