
By now, we have all seen the attack on Jay Z in the elevator of The Standard Hotel in NYC. I’m not really interested in this story, but I am getting a lot of emails asking me to post about it, so here you go. I have absolutely no source for this post and no idea what the fight was about. I can clear up some misinformation. Apparently, there was a fake tweet being passed around the Internet after the fight hit social media. It was not a tweet from Solange as it was claimed and just some troll being an asshat on the Internet. Also, I’ve heard Solange deleted nearly all of her pictures on Instagram that include Beyoncé.
On Wendy Williams this morning, Wendy pointed out that she is having her “JZ” tattoo on her wedding finger removed. The only sign of a failing marriage greater than getting your spouses name tattooed on your body, is having it removed.
On The View, Whoopi speculated that Solange had heard Jay Z say something inappropriate about Beyoncé of seen him in some sort of unacceptable interact with another woman at the party.
It is also rumored that Solange got into it with a female guest at the party before getting on the elevator.
It is interesting to note that the body guard made the decision not to put Solange and Jay Z in the same vehicle and that Beyoncé road home in the care with her sister rather than her husband.
Again, I don’t find this couple interesting and pay them very little attention, but as a totally objective person who has no idea of the couple’s history together, my speculation is that marriage is on its last leg.
So here is your place to discuss your thoughts. IN THIS ONE COMMENT SECTION I will relax the rules on not mentioning what other sites are reporting since I don’t have my own source to protect. So let me know what you know!
The tattoo is of a IV (Roman numeral 4).
Thanks for correcting Wendy – she doesn’t know everything…
neither does the correcter…
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I thought both Beyonce and JayZ both had that tattooed on their ring fingers in honor of their daughter Ivy.
They both got the IV tattoo on their ring fingers around the time they got married. Their birthdays are the 4th of the respective months and they got married on 4-4-08
Hmmm, you’re right.
Instead, the magazine reports, she wears a band on her ring finger over a tattoo of the Roman numeral IV (Beyoncé was born on Sept. 4; Jay-Z on Dec. 4; they were married on April 4). Jay-Z, 38, has a matching tattoo on his left-hand ring finger.
So having that removed is like taking off her wedding ring…. interesting.
I just googled. The tat is IV and JZ got one too for the birth of their baby, Blue Ivy.
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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So I guess I do know everything after all, huh. Thanks.
I thought it was interesting how Beyoncé flashed her camera ready smile before exiting in the car.
I love Beyonce yes LOVE!! That fight just lets us know people are human, Jay Z did good not striking Solange back, Solange looked deranged. I have never been in a position where I wanted to strike another family member, especially not in public. Beyonce was standing to the side trying not to ruin her hair, makeup and dress. The way the situation was quickly handled makes me believe that this sort of thing happens all the time. Solange needs to control herself. If Jayz did something oh so terrible that Solange had to act that way she would not have waited until the elevator doors shut and magically calmed down when the doors opened back up. This is a private family and no one would have ever known this went down if some security personnel wasn’t out to make a quick buck.
TT–Thank you for posting this although this isnt your usual cup of tea, I loathe to post my opinion on any other sites…
Lol! Beyoncé was like don’t mess up my look!
J did not react, IMO, because he knew the elevator had cameras. Most do. That is why Bey sat there like a stone and did squat. She one is the most self controlled star out there. For me, it’s is creepy and why I don’t get a genuine vibe from her. I know that are constantly in the Media eye so I get it, but there is something off about her. She is suppressed in a weird way. If you believe the hype that Jay was abusive the wedding, the could be one explanation.
before and after (symbols didn’t show up)
Her father taught her well. Keeping up appearances is part of her media training. The only guinuineness she gives the public are her stage performances.
I know absolutely nothing of this couple or their music. The only reason I find them interesting is the rumor (and video) of Beyoncé faking her pregnancy. The video is very telling the way her stomach “folded up” like it was a balloon that deflated.
On other forums people are saying how Jay Z must have cheated on her, or hit Beyonce or something like that and that is why Solange (who looked deranged and crazy) attacked him. That said, no one in the elevator looked particularly shocked at her behavior, and if Jay Z had done what she did no one would be asking what she had done to deserve it (like some assume he must have deserved it) but we would be having an entirely different conversation. She looked like a maniac and I predict a rehab visit in the news.
I thought coked out! Just my first impression. That girl was NOT being normal. And it’s not really like she just “snapped” because she was on a mission! Was NOT giving up!
Beyonce, get your checkbook out… Solange needs rehab $!!!
I don’t like either of them but did see the video. I found it interesting the Beyonce didn’t try to stop her sister… Maybe she pulled a Ne Ne and had her sister pull a Porsche and attack him ( Jz) for her ( Beyonce). I did read somewhere else ( since TT is allowing it this one time) that JayZ is very controlling and that he and Beyonce have had several knock down drag out fights. I’m with you, TT – their marriage is on the rocks. And don’t care either way.
If only it had audio!! We can only speculate, but I thought it was so strange how Beyonce stood motionless for most of the video. It was as if she just stood back and let it happen because she felt the attack was “warranted” in some way, i.e. Jay did something extremely disrespectful to one of them and Beyonce felt like Solange was justified in going into a rage. I don’t think violence in any way toward any gender is ok. Solange should have kept her hands and her purse to herself despite what Jay did or said. TT, I also read that Solange deleted all but one photo of Beyonce from Instatgram. This leads me to believe that Solange is now angry with her sister for allowing or turning a blind eye to Jay while he did whatever disrespectful thing he did. And whatever he did must have been something really, REALLY bad, or the last straw that broke the camel’s (he he he) back.
This video highlights every almost every single double standard of domestic violence when it’s female on male. The security guard saved him from having to defend himself.
Thank you! I am a woman and agree with you 100%. If Jay-Z had even tried to restrain her like that security guard, everyone would be ripping him a new one. And Beyoncé stood there like this was nothing new at all.
Thank you! This is what I have been saying. Also I think Beyonce stood there because she knew there was a camera and maybe she didn’t want to escalate the situation. They both seemed like it’s happened before.
I agree a hundred percent-everyone assumes Jay Z did something to deserve it-but if he attacked a woman he would be in jail right now. Definitely an unfair double standard-I hear a lot of “you go girl”s and it’s gross. The way Beyonce just stood there is either shock or she is used to her sister behaving this way.
If you look at the entire video, you can tell after the frist attack, Bey and JZ are having a converstation with each other, and after Bey moved her train, she was having a conversation with Soloange. Rumor is the reasonings for them being in different cars is Bey and soloage were heading out to Kelly’s wedding. I think I would have postponed that trip to have a lon dicussion with my husband, but thats just me.
That’s exactly what it is. I think Solange’s behavior is disgusting. It’s outrage for a man to hit a woman even in defense, but a woman can go HAM. The social commentary on the domestic violence in the media is so lopsided. And I see one more damn person trying to say that it wasn’t domestic violence I’m gong to scream.. But back to the original point before my rant. Both of their reactions is as if they dealt with it before. I know that B is always ON but I have a feeling she would fight when she felt it was appropriate. Even in J’s reaction, when pushing off her he never really got animated with this his response and kind of backed into the corner as if he knew how to defuse the situation. All of the speculation of what he did to deserve it is outrageous.
*I think wondering what set Solange off is not the same as “wondering what Jay Z did to deserve it.” I don’t see the need for all the outrage. *
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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They say that Solange had words with Rachel Roy, the designer that used to be married to Damon Dash. Also heard that she was really intoxicated. The way Beyonce stood there made me think she sort of agreed with Solange. All she did was move her train out of the way. Weird. My friend who travels on the fringe of the glitterati scence says that Solange is a loose cannon anyway. But the way she “went in” on Jay Z made me think she has been holding that in for a loonnng time. Maybe from back when Jay Z was supposedly cheating on Beyonce? I’m not a fan of any of them, but it is sad that it happened, for whatever reason. I would, however, like to let her loose on my ex for a few minutes lol.
Beyonce did, a few times towards the end, kind of step in. But to me, she looked less like she was agreeing with Solange’s behavior and more like she is just used to her acting a fool. (Like those mom’s you see in public who’s child is acting nuts, but they’re just ignoring it)
Regardless, why go off on your brother-in-law for cheating or otherwise disrepecting your sister? That’s not her place. And she’s too damn old for hitting any way. She just looked totally out of control. Maybe she was drunk and beyonce left with her to prevent her doing something else stupid in the car. While interesting this is kinda a nonstory without the audio.
This whole thing just gies. to prove $ does not buy happiness.
I couldn’t give two sweet sh*ts about these people but it certainly seems from the video that Beyonce knows why she pays security to travel with them. Why should she get involved when there was a very large and capable security person right there to handle the incident? No matter who she agrees with, getting in between a crazy lady kicking and swinging is never gonna end well.
And just in defense of Solange-she at least TRIED to take care of her rage in the privacy of an elevator and not put it on the street for all to see. I guess she just got a big ol’ lesson on Big Brother.
Solange was not drunk to the point of being out of control obviously, she just forgot about the camera in the elevator so her judgment was not that impaired before we go stating the ‘out of control must be on something animalistic they dont know any better black people when they drink and get mad theory’ based on a short film that nobody here knows wtf happened minutes before. Solange is used to drinking top shelf liquor not the cheap rales you guys are thinking of, so she knows how to drink and go out without acting the fool. Not one person here goes out as much as Solange so the drunk theory does not mesh with the film tome. You guys are getting her confused. Beyonce is the one that sings Future’s song, you know that he already had on his CD but it was stolen and appeared that he had to remove that is why she snuck her album out early song called ‘Drunken Love’, its not Solange singing Drunkand at the Club so get it right people before we jump all the way on that stereotype shelf crap., let us assume it was something so disrespectful to her sister that she ripped JZ’s ass as soon as she thought they were alone. Do sisters stand there and say nothing when in-laws get into it? Not the right move Solange did to JayZ, but we all know folk that will go there when it is a sibling that is disrespected by their husband. Besides, Beyonce goes in as an entertainer, but she always looks like she is in a spell or something. Did we expect emotion? Really, when have you ever seen that from her? All we see is a wind up and ‘dance and sing Beyonce doll since she left DC and her Dad. Back to Solange, her anger is strange? I mean J and B do their thing outside of the marriage which makes me wonder why is so angry. IMO only, her action to JZ looked so lovers quarrel to me. Solange looked like an angry wife fed up with the flirting all night. It is so much more to this story for real.
What the fuck is this diatribe ? A “black person who doesn’t know any better” rant ? How would you have any knowledge of their drinking choices/habits ? I’ll tell you one thing…..I have 5 sisters. We are all in a 5 year age range. We don’t all like each other or our spouses….BUT, no one has ever put their hands on another EVER.
Who ordered the word salad?
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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@Belinda, say diatribe…..that’s what I thought. I did not say anything about black people ranting. @Belinda, nothing I said supported what you just said. Either you jumped your ass off the porch and responded all smart ass only to not comprehend what I said, especially since I am a black woman you might want to make sure you can comprehend before posting Porsha Jr. You read black people in my blog and with your third grade reading skills you felt that your low comprehension scores in school qualified you to reply to my blog. Looks like you are the black folk ranting over three words no one even posted about. All these damn Felicias did not want to do their homework years ago now they want to blog. .
Who ordered chopped sentence tartare?
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Actually, TT blogs. You just commented on the blog. Two very different things. Just wanted to point that out since you’re so big on comprehension.
Simone…yikes! What you have written here is called a post or posts. What Tamara Tattles has here is a blog and Tamara is a blogger. Is that simple enough for you? Allow me to give you an example: Belinda did not “read black people” on your blog and then feel qualified to reply ‘on your blog’. Belinda read your post on TT’s blog and responded to your post…get it? Theeeeennnn the blogger herself responded to your post(s) and, if you look real close – although I’m just a fairly new reader – my guess is that she believes you are not expressing yourself very clearly in your “posts”. Now, as a fellow poster, I get to respond to your post as well IF the blogger here allows me. I only have one more question. Are you bangin’ some guy named Future who is accusing Beyoncé of plagiarism and trying to stir shit that Solange is bangin’ JZ to get back at them? Sorry, not even gonna take a sip of that tea.
More like tuna tartare, TT, but then I’m just guessing like all the POSTERS here today. Let us know when you DO start that blog though Simone! I’m sure it would be entertaining.
I’m amazed the comments by Simone made enough sense to anyone to warrant discussion. I admit to not exerting myself trying to decipher them. So, um. carry on!
@Karma, I do both actually. Give me a platform. And I threw a little HOT tea in there as well about Beyonce and Future and why she dropped her album early? And you have? Oh I see, the correction police, how clever? . Back to the porch you go too, I like interesting posts let me skim on by you.
Whether you gave tea or not, you simply posted comments. You are not a blogger here. TT is and Uretha is a guest blogger at times. You can insult whoever you like obviously. It just makes you look stupid. Carry on.
Thanks, TT. I’m still pretty new here, and still finding my way around. And thanks for the link explaining. It made sense, and I totally understand your point of view.
What. In. The. Fuck.
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*yawn* Just killing time, waiting for the RHONY recap.
You’re waiting for something that is not going to happen, Cat.
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2014/03/13/about-real-housewives-of-new-york-im-out/
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Oops. I replied in the wrong spot. Sorry about that. Thanks again!
You’re right, of course, TT. I think I’m a tad bored and agitated tonight. The bull’s eye was irresistible. Sigh.
Oh I have no problem with those who actually comprehended the post taking some shots. I have a lot of weird rules, but bickering with commenters is always allowed.
You can find my outlandish and self-centered commenting rules here. 🙂
http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/commenting-rules/
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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At the end of the day, your boredom and agitation made my night. Thanks for deciphering that mess.
I thought you spot on Romen. Intelligent and clever. You win.
Correction: I thought you “were” spot on… Sorry.
Why would Solange delete Beyoncé’s pics from Instagram if she’s attacking Jay Z because he cheated on Beyoncé? Doesn’t make sense.
That’s what I was wondering. Then I wondered what the hell was I doing wondering about them at all?! 😛
Oh my! I’m so confused . Word salad and chopped sentence tartare indeed.
My theory why she deleted the pictures is because on the ride home B tried to talk some sense into S. S took that as B taking her husband’s side and not hers, and now B needs to be punished for not attacking J as well. I have no proof or backup of any kind, but this explanation feels about right. Right?
My take judging from Jay-Z and Beyonce’s reactions is that, here she goes again! It’s reasonable to assume JZ said something to piss her off and she waited (at least till when they were alone) to act like a damn fool. I’m sure Beyonce didn’t try to stop her because that’s what a bodyguard is for. It made me look her up on Twitter. I don’t know anything about her at all. Have never seen her except once with Beyonce on Oprah. Go check out her pics on in twitter page @solangeknowles. She reminds me of someone with mental illness. It’s a facial expression that people with mental illness have and the affect that psychotropic drugs have on their expression. I have personal experience with it. My brother is mentally ill. Who acts like that at a black tie celebrity gala. Only someone who is crazy would snap like that in an elevator all dressed up. Why couldn’t she wait till they were in their car or when they got home. I wonder why they take her everywhere anyway. It’s a Hollywood marriage, their relationship has last longer than most. Would anybody really be surprised if they got a divorced. I’m surprised they haven’t already.
It’s funny how Beyonce just glided on out with her serene smile like just another day at the office.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions but unless you have the credentials and met with and properly diagnosed Solange you don’t know her mental health status. However, I might add here that mental illness does seem to run in families among brothers, sisters, moms and dads.
Ikr…..why do they take her every where with them??!!!
I don’t get why this is like headline news. It’s not that big of a deal.
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I don’t care what happened between J&B, unless Beyoncé was in fear for her life and Solange could help her [or she was protecting herself], Solange was out order. Point blank period. This was behind closed doors in the privacy in your own home business. :/
Why would anyone expect Beyonce to intervene in a physical altercation ?
There was a bodyguard present ….that is his job/what he gets paid for. Had he been doing the job properly ,there would never have been contact made.
I am VERY familiar with personal protection and that was not good coverage. On the upside….that was the biggest hit Solange has ever had !
The body was beyonce’s body guard not jay-zs so since Solange wasn’t really attacking b the security didn’t have to do anything but he tried lol.
The only thing conndoning Solanges behavior would be if he physically assaulted Bey. She really should come forth and be truthful if that’s the case the medias painting her as a bipolar madwoman
The media is bipolar!
What I got from all this : Solange is a big selfish, violent baby. If you love your sister, this is not the way to show it. You don’t attack, physically or verbally, her husband and put her at odds of either choosing your side or his side. Either way Beyoncé loses. Selfish people always act first, get all in their feelings and then justify their outrageous behavior. And then everyone else is left to deal with fall out. Anyway, whatever is going on I hope Beyoncé has a true confidante in her corner who understands she’s juggling all sorts of competing roles (mother, wife, sister, daughter) and probably trying to be the perfect everything to everybody.
This!!!!! 🙂
Well it is a “hard knock life” shrugs.
Gotta admit I am amazed at the general shrug here. I thought the world revolved around Beyoncé and JZ and everyone worshipped them except me. I’m liking this site more and more every day.
Eek, sorry Frappe but I will admit to enjoying watching their every move. Please don’t judge me harshly but sometimes you have to escape. Some people do it with sports or religion etc… I like dirty laundry (I think that’s why I love watching Phaedra and Apollo). Hopefully there’s room for my foolishness as well as yours and Tamara’s common sense. This whole thread is making me happy. I’m a weirdo like that.
Lol! Well someone has to like them or there would be no “them”. They just aren’t my cup of tea. I love a different kind of crazy – a Johnny Depp kinda crazy or a Bruno Mars kinda make me crazy. 🙂
Johnny Depp and Bruno Mars are great as far as I’m concerned. Actually when Charlie Sheen went all Tiger Blood crazy, I couldn’t look away.
Your post made me curious, so I went web surfing. I think Chelsea Handler said it best:
“No one really knows exactly what happened except for those three or four in the elevator and whoever they decided to tell,” she said. “But sisters need to stick together because blood is thicker than penis.”
I love me some Beyoncé and Jay Z as artists and I love gossip, but not sure about their marriage…but here’s MY take
I think Solange is known to pop off on a person and has probably jumped bad in Beyonces face before. Beyoncé was in that elevator like Julius got my back and I guess I’ll let him protect Jay too… Lol. She was not concerned; it’s like damn this girl, she stay messing up my party.
Idk if their marriage is on its last legs, if so, they going out with a bang! In addition to her hot as hell album I saw pics of them on the internet last week where it looked like Jay was just giving her a little teaser in the sunshine on a yacht.
I think the tattoo thing is odd, why have it removed? Hmmmm…
I’m glad Jay didn’t retaliate, this would be a whole nother issue. Solange should keep her hands and feet to herself.
The memes of this have been HILARIOUS!
What I find more interesting is the camera in the elevator.
Cameras are everywhere. You’re probably on camera 10+ times a day just going about your regular business. Sorry…
Most high end venues have camera’s in them, the most nortorious of them all was the last images of Princess Diana as she left the hotel in Paris to meet her untimely fate. Most of us are safe, since my stays are at the Motel 6.
Well, looks like Jay finally has 100 problems.
And a bitch IS one.
(Sorry. I couldn’t resist.)
JZ probably had a scepter and waved it in Solange’s face. So he deserved what he got.
I don’t get why Beyoncé would have a tattoo of IV ( Ivy ), her child’s name, removed.
Solange looked sloppy!! she was obviously intoxicated and I think it was as if she was making a big deal over something that was irrelevant. I don’t think it has anything to do with jay and bs marriage. Beyonce was the first one in the elevator and jayz got in and stood right in front of her. Beyonce continued to stand right behind him until he had to keep moving away from solange so beyonce decided to move to his side so that he could remain at a far distance from crazy legs. Even when they were getting into the limo jazz was going to get in with both sisters but security said not to. I don’t think solange can hold her liquor and she’s the agressive type so this has probably happened before. Sn: If your on the last leg of your marriage I don’t think you would want to travel around the country (or world) on tour with eachother.
I would bet my last dollar, it had to be over that hiddeous dress ya girl wore at this event. I mean, what the hell was she thinking and I’m sure Jay-z was probaoly joking about it and it ticked her off and because B helped her design and sew it, she stayed clear.
Gayle, I too thought it seemed to have something to do with Solange’s dress. I pictured JZ saying something snarky about it and Solange attacking him for it and B watching like it was a common occurrence.
I guess I don’t understand why everyone expects that Beyonce would have intervened. I know that normal people would but… these people aren’t normal.
1. Beyonce is one of the world’s MOST effective people in the impeccable crafting of her image. Her image is her brand, and her brand is incredibly valuable. Do I suspect that Beyonce values her image, brand and the empire she has created more than her marriage? Probably. Do I blame her? Probably not. I have always felt that Beyonce grew to love Jay-Z but that it was first and foremost a relationship of convenience, and maybe some one-sided lust.
2. If you saw Beyonce’s Met Gala ensemble, it was placed within an inch of her life. One tug, one pull, one rip and the result would not solely have been a disheveled appearance but exposure of goodness knows what. That would have been all fine and good if she and Jay had been the only two in the elevator and they could have played it off all “Partition”like, but she exited the elevator into a crowd of photogs. This video was never meant to be released, and I am sure she wasn’t expecting it to. I think her choice not to get involved was a strategic protection of her image, not necessarily a co-sign of Solange’s actions.
3. Let’s not forget – they have a GIANT body guard in the elevator. This person can fight off potential attackers of all shapes and sizes, and can certainly take Solange. Beyonce has been in the spotlight and attended by body guards for years. She has not had to protect herself for years. It has all been taken care of. You retrain your instincts under those circumstances because not doing so could be disastrous.
4. Solange has an edge to her. To my knowledge there have been no previous reports of physical violence from her, but she deeeefinitely has an edge to her.
They could totally be on the edge of marital collapse but I disagree with Wendy about the IV – it keeps appearing and disappearing – which to me reads more like use of cover-up than removal. I would be surprised that Bey would take such a visible step that is bound to be read into prior to any official announcement. Again, this woman has her image on lock down to the last strand of hair. No detail goes unnoticed. She’s like the Disneyworld of celebrities!
I agree, especially with 1 and 2. Beyonce knew they will be seen shortly after and keeps as much of her private life as private as she can. You will not see her cry or be mad in public unless that is what she wants to portray. Fighting in Gowns, is not what she wants to portray…
I think Beyonce and Jayz love each other. It would be hard to fake their affection that hard for this long…
Beyonce has showed ever crevice and orifice of her body on stage, video, TV,etc. There is nothing else for you to know.
Beyonce has shown every crevice and inch that she has wanted you to see – when she has wanted you to see it. Never more, never less.
Maybe he told Solange that dress made her look fat.
Thx for the post TT!! I was one that wanted dets, as I am a big Jay Z fan, and I like Beyonce too!! I’m glad we now know that the tweet from Solange was a fake…
BlindGossip just did a reveal about the two. The original blind mentioned them screaming each other at the Super Bowl in New Orleans shortly before her performance. Allegedly B was texting another guy. Kelly and Michelle (and family) looked on like it was nothing new. No shock. No intervening.
Now there are reports that the fight started when JZ told the ladies to go on home as he would be attending Rhianna’s after party without them. kh
Ohhhh, interesting. You know just when you think someone can’t be better looking than B someone like Rhianna comes along. Just like when Brad Pitt married Jennifer Aniston and I thought you can’t get better looking than that…Angelina Jolie comes along. Show business is all about image and the beautiful people are what sells. I know it’s absolutely none of my business but nevertheless…
TT the info you have given is basically what is being reported everywhere else.
Personally I think part of it is the sensitive younger sister thing. She’s drunk and rebellious so something was said about her behavior, and Solange had an immature reaction.
Beyoncé was protecting herself and her clothes by not getting too involved.
Also it is being reported that Beyoncé, Solange, and their mother Tina Knowles attended Kelly Rowland’s wedding in Costa Rica. Mom may have put her foot down for a brief reconciliation.
Since we’re able to speculate, I’m going to throw my 2 cents in. I read that Solange is a known loose cannon and some reports that she is bipolar. That would explain why Bey doesn’t look shocked. Additionally I think Bey rode home with her sister to soothe her, knowing she would see her husband later anyway.
Thanks for allowing a space to speculate and be silly since I doubt we’ll ever know the truth. The Carter Knowles family keeps their secrets better than Scientology.
Back to lurking.
So you are telling saying bipolar made her act this way? lmfao! SMH. Solange is a pothead and is very opinionated. Bipolar does not make people violent. A person can be violent by nature, bipolar or not. However, Jay Z and Beyonce are known to fight and argue in front of their kid, family and friends who are not phased by it because they do it so often. Jay Z calls Beyonce the B word and she gets in his face and they argue aggressively. They both text other people and it makes them both mad. I am around celebs a lot and many celebs are my friends, and many staff members of celebs and celeb event staff tell me things. This family is dysfunctional and all about image. They know they make more $$$ as a team than apart. BTW Solange was sober that night.
Very Sad. I’ve heard those things as well. Poor Blue Ivy.
Bella, being bi-polar may not make you violent but neither does being a pothead or opinionated. That would just make her hungry and mellow in my experience (and no I’m not a pothead). I think everyone falls somewhere on the Dysfunctional Bell Curve, everyone. Of course I doubt we’ll ever know what really happened and so I shall continue my own life as dysfunctional as it is. LOL.
It is clear that bey knew cameras were around and she acted accordingly and let the bodyguard handle it. It is also clear that sol has a temper problem hence so pretty and no man. Jay and bey are okay and was spotted out with sol’s son a day or so later so no breakup just yet.
The reason there is a “double standard” as some of you are saying is bc MEN are STRONGER than WOMEN. It is not, & never a fair fight. I don’t condone violence of any kind, but biologically men should restrain themselves against women.
Why is it that so many people say: I don’t condone violence’ but…..? Wouldn’t it be better if we all just didn’t condone
violence (period)?
Yes.
Thanks TT for the opportunity to discuss. I’m shocked that the video was released. I wonder if the person who released it will be fired. Who wants to enter an establishment that publishes the coming and goings of its patrons? Second, how do we know the tattoo was being removed? My friend has a tattoo on her hand and she needs to have it redone every three months because the skin sheds a lot on the hands. Do we know it was being removed?
I just saw pictures on Wendy Williams where there was a red mark where the tat used to be. I mean, it was WW, so….
Again, I just can’t get into this story….
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I am giggling @ you TT. I am reading some of these comments about J&B and every once in awhile you comment. Expressing the exact same thing “Not interested”.
You are cracking me up. This thing is on automatic pilot. lol
I know, she just keeps yawning at us. She’s being very nice and patient to let us ramble about this. I actually feel like that regarding the Kardashians. I just don’t care about them at all.
It’s exhausting to hear so many people justify violent behavior in women – on reality television, hotel elevators, etc. To the wild and ratchet girls, just STOP. Stop hitting each other, stop hitting men and PLEASE STOP HITTING YOUR CHILDREN!
All I know is what I saw – a twenty-something repeatedly attacking a person almost 20 years her senior. When I learn more, I’ll know more; but what I saw, was repugnant. .
And illegal.
Rumor has it that Jay Z and Gwyneth Paltrow had an affair, which is why she and Beyonce’s friendship ended. Gwyneth allegedly also had an affair with one of the producers on glee. Chris Martin allegedly is having an affair with Kate Hudson.
Beyonce and Jay Z allegedly had a huge fight at the superbowl when he found out she was texting another man. Apparently Kelly and Michelle and Beyonce’s mother just sat there like they were used to it.
Rumor has it Jay Z is having an affair with Rita Ora who will sleep with anyone to get ahead.
Jay Z and Beyonce had several incidents/altercations involving his allged affair with Rihanna. Jay Z is basically a major man whore. Their marriage is business.
Wow Bella, that’s good stuff.
If it were true. Not.
Everyone seems to be reaching, considering there was no audio. Personally I don’t care what went down, just nosy like everyone else, but I feel that Beyonce handled herself like the classy lady that she is. I have a few family members that take things overboard, and I react the same way, ignore them. It is hard to argue by yourself. The pic of Beyonce coming out of the elevator, looking longingly at her sister like, “Poor Solange, I hope she doesn’t take it too hard that I will choose my husband over her, and one day she’ll get it, when she gets some maturity and stop trying to fight the whole world” type look. So, um yea…. Beyonce as well as JayZ are well aware of their public image, and how many haters they have. People just spend hours of their life trying to decipher a picture, so they can say ahh ha! and feel vindicated over someone they have no personal dealings with. GET A LIFE! JayZ may be a lot of things, but you can never call that man stupid, he knows he has a real woman, and she cannot be replaced!
I’m surprised Bey has been able to hold up her public image for so long although its been slipping through the cracks in her music. It is tiring and exhausting to hide behind a facade day after day when cameras and paparazzi are lurking 24/7. Most celebrities tend to say eff it and give up that good guy or good girl image and just be them. i.e. MJ, mel gibson, I can name several celebs. Whatever Bey portrays to us we all know its not perfect. She even decided to release an album similar to Rihanna’s style because she’s eager to express her freaky side. Not comparing her to rhianna but rhi certainly doesn’t wake up daily caring about her public image. She could care less if people think. We can speculate all day about what happened but what’s clear is that Bey was not going to risk messing up her appearance or image before stepping off that elevator. Therefore her husband and sister took a backseat to her public image and that will always be number 1 to her
As for solange I’ve never heard of any angry outburst or bipolar moment she’s had. So it’s a pr spin or just rumors
I come from a family of Nene Leakes and Jackie Christie Doppelganger s so im just not shocked by this. To be honset as a teen when I woupd get really hormonal my mom had the Beyonce approach Whatever!. Idk what happen althogh we know Beyonce image is perfect . And Oral Riberts followers swear she is the Anti-christ she is a human with a family and shit happens…the tape was leaked guys. Speaking of which uhm somebody whoever sold that video is Very richhhhhhhhhh Bitch. Running to the bank with Trump Checks Donald Trump!!!!!!!
What the fuck this Galaxy is terrible it keeps freezing and swiping letters. I swear I can spell guys!
cashing trump checksssssss! idk and probably shouldnt care but they are human. they are flawed like we all are. whatever the situation i can only assume beyonce was used to solange having her moments and over it at that point. jay-z may have said something to set her off but my brothers ans sister in laws do it all the time. sometimes we go too far and there has been a few wrestling matches (dies laughing) but we moved on (eventually) and hopefully they can too. IF (and Im no licensed doctor…yet) Solo has a mental issue they can get her the help she needs….and if she is simply a brat they can find help for that as well!
I could resist that nene quote.
Im leaning towards brat, my parents paid hundreds in copays only to find out I wasnt bipolar or crazy just “headstrong” aka spoiled brat. I like human celebrities.
I’m a firm believer that if you go to any sort of specialist they will diagnose within their specialist. I became very anxious and depressed so I went to see a shrink or three. All men. All said I had “depression and anxiety.” I was like, NO DUH but I have nothing to be depressed or anxious about. The kept putting me on anti-depressants that were very expensive and did nothing. On my own I discovered that it was all related to my menstrual cycle. I went and got tests and now see a new FEMALE who took me off all anti depressants and we are on the healthful eating, exercise plan, which works perfectly when I do it. Turns out it was my hormones making me crazy and not myself.
Sadly, the actual diagnosis requires a lot of effort from me. And I am a lazy fatass.
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Thank you Tamera for your posting about this unfortunate incident.
We all have family issues we would prefer to keep private.
I feel for them as humans, this is not funny, you are right its not interesting its just human behavior that spiraled out of control.
First I want to apologize to Tamara who didn’t want to necessarily write a blog on “The Big Elevator Incident of 2014.” But I’m glad you did. Now I have to apologize to her again because I commented 3000 times. I couldn’t stop, but I swear this is the last one (at least for today).
JayZ is 45 not 38 smh
Donald Sterling just sent Solange a thank you bouquet for giving the media something else to focus on.
For those who care, he is photographic evidence of the tattoo removal.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2014/05/14/beyonce-pictures-photos-jay-z-solange-knowles-fight-tattoo-removal-relationships/
You are an information machine!
Especially for something you didn’t want to write about.
I actually used to work for beyonce years ago. The first thing I can say is that she is extremely nice and also extremely conscious about how she appears to the media as in: “I have a bruise on my leg from playing tennis I need to make sure it doesn’t show or else the media will say jay -z beats me” type of thing.
This is what I saw: at first it looked like beyonce wasn’t intervening because she felt like jay- z had it coming, but after rematch ing it seems more like they were used to solange acting like that, that’s why they were calm and barely saying anything and basically try to stay away from her, and beyonce was trying not to get her dress, hair messed up before the paps caught ahold of them.
They were speaking to each other but not speaking to solange or responding to her or acknowledging her unless it was to restrain her or stop her. When they walked out the only concern was to get to the car and look like nothing is wrong. At one point jayz even had the foresige to pick up a purse that I think was solanges and hand it to beyonce.
Don’t know why in the hell beyonce didn’t intervene more tho, maybe she was trying to get ready for the cameras
Jay-z was the one who made the decision to go to a separate car. He let solange go in first and then talked to a bodyguard and walked to another car.
They both looked like two parents trying to manage a crazed child and not let the neighbors know what’s up. The fact that solange childishly took down all her sisters pics confirmed it to me… The issue was solange.
I’m disappointed, I really liked Solange
Okay, the real story is actually coming out now. Jay Z ‘s ex business partner’s ex wife, Rachel someone was flirting with Jay Z pretty hard. Beyoncé pointed out to the woman that her behavior was inappropriate. Solange came to Beyoncé’s side and had words with the woman as well.
Jay Z told both women that they were making a big deal out of nothing and they needed to hush. At that point the decision was made to leave. Once in what they thought was the privacy of the elevator, Solange went in on Jay Z for seemingly taking the flirty woman’s side.
It seems that later in the car ride Beyoncé said something to Solange about staying out of her martial business. This pissed off Solange who was merely sticking up for her sister. The two sisters have since made up and Solange is back home in New Orleans where she lives.
Just a minor family squabble.
I’d hate to be around Solange if something major happened. All dressed up acting like a maniac.
PS the ads across the top of this page has a story on the missing tattoo. It has all the tattoo pictures.
Well, FINALLY. Beyoncé and Jay Z have issued a statement to the Associated Press regarding the elevator incident seen ’round the world:
“As a result of the public release of the elevator security footage from Monday, May 5th, there has been a great deal of speculation about what triggered the unfortunate incident. But the most important thing is that our family has worked through it. Jay and Solange each assume their share of responsibility for what has occurred. They both acknowledge their role in this private matter that has played out in the public. They both have apologized to each other and we have moved forward as a united family. The reports of Solange being intoxicated or displaying erratic behavior throughout that evening are simply false. At the end of the day families have problems and we’re no different. We love each other and above all we are family. We’ve put this behind us and hope everyone else will do the same.”
Of note: Beyoncé is not mentioned in this statement at all, which must be her way of saying, “I woke up like this and this is not my problem.”
Thanks Jacque.