Tonight we begin the second half of the debacle known as Couples Therapy. The title is Get Real and I suppose it refers to both Ghost and Farrah. I doubt either will actually do it. But I am sure that Dr. Jenn will pretend to buy whatever they put up for sale. Tonight Farrah has an off camera session with Dr. Jenn and Ghost has a three-way session with Ghost Face Killer, Kelsey and Latrice.
We pick back up with Kelsey furious with Ghost. Ghost goes to do damage control. For once Kelsey does not cave. Sada comes out and talks with Kelsey. Sada gives WAY better advice than Dr. Jenn. She says that Ghost doesn’t get to pick. That Kelsey needs to walk away with some dignity. That she is better than this. Later, Dr. Mike’s counseling is basically keep your chin up.
The counselor chick has been tagged as “it.” This means she gets to chat with Farrah over breakfast about her lack of relationships with others in the house. They are all still eating takeout with plastic forks. I hate to agree with Taylor, and certainly don’t agree with the delivery but I would not want to live off of take out for two weeks either. Can’t they get some food in the house? Can anyone cook? Kelsey maybe? Perhaps the living conditions are a bit sub par despite the beautiful interior. Blaring heat and nothing but takeout from Applebees would be some pretty rough conditions. I can see pea green towels pushing me over the edge. Just not on day one after a full night out on the town. Anyway, the counselor is pushing Farrah to try to fit in. I don’t see that happening in the last week. Farrah says people are so rude.
John, Taylor, Sada and Jon are all outside talking about Farrah. Her story just does not add up. Taylor and John make all kinds of fun of Farrah in her talking heads. It’s rude and immature. They are grown adults with grown children and a lost little girl. They have absolutely no compassion for Farrah, which is partially understandable, but to take it to the next level and mock her clothing (Taylor) and her poor conversational skills (John) is pretty reprehensible, especially in the context of group therapy.
On the other hand, Dr. Jenn seems to be bending way toward the opposite extreme. She seems to be looking for reasons to support Farrah’s fucked up behavior rather than calling her out on it. Neither response is doing Farrah any favors. Dr. Jenn tries to talk about defining behaviors, how choices affect Farrah, what is constructive for her and what is harmful. Farrah rolls her eyes, then scrunches up her face as if confused when Dr. Jenn calls the sex tape a defining unfortunate moment (not a moment, Dr. Jenn, it was a decision) and then becomes angry. She is pissed that her “sex tape” has made her a social leper. It’s just her having sex! What’s the big deal?
Dr. Jenn tells her she has come so far (in therapy). What? Did we miss those episodes? She says she thinks there is something holding her back. Clearly, she is leading up to the big, “were you sexually abused?” question. Farrah begins the fake cry, and says, “No, like, I’ve been living in a world these past couple months and like…like yeah, …like yeah…” Farrah continues, ” I signed some shit away that I am fucking against. Like, I can’t even fucking talk about it because I signed this huge contract.” She says that she just wishes she could tell Sada everything that she is missing so that she would understand. She is crying. Dr. Jenn said that she knows that Farrah cannot talk about the sex tape. So they get rid of all the cameras and mikes and Dr. Jenn and Farrah actually have a private session.
At group, Dr. Jenn says that the topic is secrets and she wants to start with Farrah. Farrah looks down and Dr. Jenn asks if she wants her to start. Farrah nods. Dr. Jenn says that she had a session with Farrah. She says there have been session in this room where people thought that Farrah wasn’t revealing things especially about her tape….and the things that Farrah shared were some of the most horrific things she has ever heard. Dr. Jenn says if Farrah could share with the group she would and it would help them understand her more.
John, the oldest man in the room with grown kids Farrah’s age INTERRUPTS Dr. Jenn to list the reasons why he cannot connect to her. He says she lives in a bubble and doesn’t listen to anyone. I think is speaks a lot of John Bluher that he would interrupt a therapist who is on the verge of tears herself, to point out the reason he doesn’t like her. Farrah says she is not living in a bubble. John says he doesn’t care about anything Farrah has to say because he doesn’t think she’s being honest.
Whitney tells Farrah that she feels for her right now but this is fucking annoying. You are being so vague and who knows what this elephant in the room is, it could be serious, Dr. Jenn says it is. But there have been a lot of people who did not believe you since day one, you should up solo so there are no couple issues to sort out and now you have this gigantic issue that you can’t talk about so basically you are just a chick in a room.
Farrah says while crying (fake? not fake? what do you think?) that if she could tell her the truth without it fucking her whole life up (um, sorry but how much worse can it get?) then she would.
Dr. Jenn says to Whitney that “Farrah has been nothing but forthcoming. She’s sharing her dirtiest laundry except one where legally she cannot.”
Whitney says she would never judge Farrah for her actions (porno) and I have empathy for your situation, whatever it is; however, this is not the space to discuss this because it is obviously very serious and it hasn’t been dealt with from a legal standpoint so it is impairing their ability to have group therapy. I agree a thousand percent. Dr. Jenn though, does not. Dr. Jenn says it is the place to discuss it because the session is about how keeping secrets puts up barriers between you and those around you. Oh Dr. Jenn way to watch the point fly right over the top of your head.
Taylor, who just trashed everything about Farrah outside, flips the script in front of Dr. Jenn. She tells her she is glad to get some answers (what answers did they get?) because she was all ready to mentor the poor little porn star until she realized that Farrah was not receptive to her kind offer on mentorship. Dr. Jenn is just “Yes! Yes! It’s because of secrets and how they put of barriers that stop communication! See? We are talking about secrets! And how they are bad. So um, here is a shining example in Farrah. Meanwhile Whitney and I are thinking, “which is exactly why she has no business in this couples therapy group, she’s not in a couple and she can’t talk about her major problem due to legal issues. ” Sada apologizes for judging Farrah. She says it was clear that she was lying and that was why she did it. Dr. Jenn is ready to move on.
Time to talk about Ghost and Kelsey’s secret. Ghost says it wasn’t really a secret, he just didn’t keep it 100 with her about having another girl. Sidenote: For those obsessed with Kelsey’s hair, take a gawk at her GIGANTIC blinged out safety-pin earrangs. Thoughts? Kelsey says she should have pushed for the information. Taylor asks Kelsey an interesting question. Does she regret finding out? Taylor says if she says yes she would understand because then it would all be back to kisses and roses. Sada says it will never be back to that because she never had that. She never had him in the first place. Sada, please take a seat in Dr. Jenn’s chair. You are much better at this than she is. Ghost realizes this and gets a little warm and tells her she will never understand men. Lucky for her she doesn’t have to be bothered trying, because she’s a lesbian. Ghost says 90% of men want to fuck everything they can.
Ghost and Kelsey meet with Dr. Jenn before Latrice’s arrival. When Dr. Jenn asks him what he hopes to get out of it, he says he has love for both of them, and he want’s Latrice to see who he has been cheating with (well isn’t that nice) and for Kelsey to see his woman.
Latrice is some competition, although I don’t know why either of the women would be willing to compete at this point. Latrice says that she thought she was in a monogamous relationship. She asks Ghost how long he has been seeing Kelsey and why he didn’t tell her. Ghost tells her he love her (Latrice) and she asks if she loves Kelsey and he says he has love for her but he is not in love with her. BAM. Gut punch to Kelsey. Ghost says to Latrice, our connection is crazy, you make me laugh, you make love to me good, you do whatever I say… Dr. Jenn asks Ghost what he thinks it is like for Kelsey to hear him say those things to Latrice? He says I know she’s hurt. I love her ways too. Kelsey and Ghost go at it and eventually, Dr. Jenn screams for them to stop. Dr. Jenn lays into Ghost for being so utterly disrespectful to Kelsey. Well, Dr. Jenn, that is why this was not a good idea in the first place. Things explode, Kelsey tells Latrice she can have is ass, and she storms out of the room. I should point out here that other than a couple of scripted questions at the beginning, Latrice has sat just as cool as a cucumber with in her long, long weave without a hair getting out of place or her mouth opening.
Next Week: Taylor tells Jon she doesn’t like how Liz treats him. Kelsey has a meltdown and later talks to Latrice. It seems Latrice may be done too.
Wasn’t Farrah’s secret that she was raped?
Dr. Jenn says it’s the most horrific stuff she’s heard in her life as a therapist. Rape and child abuse, while horrific, seem pretty tame for a therapist with 20+ years. Doesn’t she hear about that kind of stuff a lot?
I have my own guess at what Farrah may have told her, but since it’s way too long to write and it’s just a guess, I’m not going to bother.
Yeah, today she says she was drugged and raped twice in the last year, and severely beaten by her parents growing up. But Vivid announced that her next PORNO is coming out next week. And we’ve all been watching Farrah and her interactions with her parents since she was 16 years old. Her mother is horrible, but Farrah was the real terror in that family. I don’t believe ANY word that comes out of her mouth. NOTHING.
what kind of people do you think make up the porn industry–they’re not deacons in the church now. regrettably, young adults can’t wait 20 years to make it, they want it now and will do whatever they are asked to do and sometimes the drugs they give them help them debase themselves but then the drug wears off.
Yeah I think she couldn’t keep her lies straight so now legally she can’t speak about anything. Lol! Yeah huge anouncement about being raped & beaten, right next to her other article “I party at the super bowl, went to this great club, with my super-duper new rich, rich friends.” Lol, I just can’t with her just can’t. Dr.Jen, is she a real doctor?
WOW Taylor is jealous of Farrah-of her youth. And John bolsters her up by picking at Farrah too.
I think Farrah has devastated herself with the sex tape. She is young, with no one with her interests to advise her, and she probably did sign a lot of stupid shit. But I also agree that it is highly annoying and unfair that we can’t know the reason she is this broken person. And if she made up stuff about her parents…I never saw Farrah in an abused household, bc look at how she bossed her parents around.
Ya it’s hard to believe her. Or listen to her voice. But if it’s true that does explain a lot for me. The emotional immaturity, the constant need for attention, especially sexual. She needs real therapy, someone to sit her down and say cut the crap, grow up, start focusing on your future not porn. Her porn is such a joke, she is really so unsexy and clutsy, like a kid playing dress up. She needs someone to make her try to be an adult and get a real career…if it’s not too late.
Ghost is a dickhead, and he looks like a dipstick. I cannot stand men who wear pants where the crotch is practically down to his knees – how does any guy think that looks attractive?
see that is what gets me, only and only because he is some performer can he even talk to such beautiful but dumb women. If he was just Henry from across the street he’d be lucky to have a good looking woman to to even say hello to him.
Taylor is so jealous of Farrah it oozes out of her pores.
Amen sista! Poor Taylor with her saggy soft old lady skin…dying bc Farrah is the the actual youth that Taylor fights so hard to try and be.
“Poor Taylor with her saggy soft old lady skin”
Are you 16? Bc I thought from previous posts you were Taylors age…
um no, i’m not sixteen, i’m a cool 30. not sure what made you think i am 40+ from reading internet comments????
hey Viva – I suspect you won’t see my reply, we all have busy lives and such. But it seemed like an unexpected comment; you often seem level-headed and mature. So it struck me as out of character for you to, you know, make fun of old lady skin when … you’re a lady yourself.
Don’t mind me though, I’ve been flat on my back with strep/flu combo from hell for over a week and have been watching reruns of these mad shows! Who knows what I’m thinking after 4 different cold meds! =) Seriously.
Hope you feel better soon, SPK . The viruses are a bitch this season!
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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With a capital B. Don’t even know the woman in my mirror these days.
Again, why is Kelsey sticking around…she can do so much better…why is Latrice sticking around…she can do better. I just never get why women want a man who totally disrespects them and treats them so dirty….he really thinks this is a game..there is no way if would sit there and “audition”for this ass…
*I would*
I always think something is off when they call a parent by their first name. Isn’t Michael her actual biological father? And didn’t he drive her to the porn studio when she was negotiating price?
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Yes, Michael is her bio father. He also brought her home and took care of her when she got her first breast augmentation, and she was shitty to him then too. Perhaps she got hit with a belt when she was very young, but by the time she was on 16 & Pregnant, she was the one calling the shots in the family.
Or maybe her father DID sexually abuse her during her childhood. Fathers who do that often treat their daughters very well in many other situations. Here’s a bit of TMI, but here goes… I had a best friend when I was 11/12 whose father had sex with her all the time (horrific!), and he treated her like a princess. I only found out when he started molesting me in my sleep when I spent the night. Anyone who didn’t know would think he was father of the year, and her a spoiled brat. He made sure to always let her have her way for fear that she would tell her mom, and also because he looked at her like someone he was constantly sexually persuing. He also groomed me leading up to it by buying me gifts and taking us places and he was soooooo nice to me. I was jealous that she had such a wonderful father (until I found out of course). Afterwards, he would have her call me and he would get on the phone and beg me not to tell my parents. He also told me that he did what he did to me to “make me feel at home”. Years later, as an adult I ran into her and we had a long conversation. She was crying and stuff when I asked her about it. She said she still could not get herself to tell her mother about her years of abuse. I told her her mom MUST already know. There house was the size of a tissue box. Literally the smallest house I’ve ever been in. I cannot even begin to tell you the sick conversations I had with her about all of this, and how much he completely mentally screwed her up. Her mom was batshit crazy too on top of it. Anyway, I don’t think Farrah’s tears were fake. I am really thinking that this girl has been through a lot. I feel bad for her.
Lori – sending a hug to you. That was incredibly brave to share. If he’s passed, you two should dance on his grave.
I am about the same age a Farrah and I have watched her grow up on mtv and I would say she def had an attitude problem. I’m surprised her parents didn’t beat her on camera with half the shit she said to them! Also, I secretly want dr. Mike Dow and Kelsey to have little mixed babies their chemistry is great together! Kelsey looks so ratchet but she talks and carries herself like a true intellectual she can DEF do better than ghost! Ps: dr. Jenn needs to get rid of those streaks in her hair I just can’t taker her seriously! Lol
Wait, it’s her highlights that make you not take her seriously? lol
Lol! Not the safety pin earrings, gigantic plastic heart choker or gravity defying weave???
Dr. Sada made the only sense in this whole episode to me. What did I miss where Jenn thinks Farrah’s being single and lying was OK in a group of couples who were pissed about her being single in couple’s therapy and lying?
What kind of ‘huge contract’ would prevent Farrah from telling the truth about being in a professional porn pic where the actor she hired has told the world? Did that contract require her to lie and tell everyone the film was a personal and private homemade keepsake between her and a fake boyfriend that was stolen?
If it’s even true, what kind of contract would prevent her from telling the world she was drugged and raped & not name anyone specifically?
I do wish she’d sign a binding contract preventing her from ever ugly whisper crying on TV; better yet, preventing her from appearing on TV again period.
Ok, here is my humble opinion. She signed a contract to do more than one movie. Now she regrets it. But she is not allowed to say anything disparaging about the experience other than “my boyfriend and I made a sex tape.” Maybe she has to give back money if she breaks any of the rules of the contract? Now she regrets it, and is stuck.
Yes, Michael is her biological dad and yes he and his wife both pretty much raise Sophia. Any time the stress of being a mom got to Farrah she shipped her off with grandma.
You know that’s even scariest – the proposition that her parents are raising the baby considering the way she turned out from their raising her. That little girl deserves a better chance at life than what she’s getting so far 🙁
Why would she allow her dad to live with her and help raise that poor baby, if thats what she was alleging? Dr.Sada really was the only one with any truth.
TT, what type of contract did she sign? A nondisclosure with vivid? A settlement with Michael after he abused her? I was as frustrated as Whitney. “Now you’re just a chick in a room” – ha!
That was a great line! I was thinking the same thing!
Farrah has an older half-sister, and their mother didn’t want one child, calling her husband, dad, and the other calling him Michael. Both girls act like they hate their mother. Very strange family.
I think what Farrah tilde the tabloids is she was beaten with a belt by her parents when young. And drugged and raped while attending porn parties/ conventions.
I don’t believe her because the girl wouldn’t know what the truth was if it crawled in her lap and smacked her in the face.
If MY parents were so awful and abusive to me while I was growing up, there is no way in hell I would ever allow them to take care of my small daughter. I wouldn’t allow my parent to be around my daughter at all let alone allow them to take care of my daughter when I wasn’t there to monitor them. And Farrah leaves her daughter in their care all the time. Just doesn’t add up to me.
And while she could have been drugged and raped at the porn parties, I can’t believe her on this point either. She STILL expects us to believe this is a “sex tape with a boyfriend” and not a porno! Also news of a second tape coming out shows how much of a liar she is. She freely attended porn parties and still hangs out in that scene according to her twitter. Therefore, she can’t have been that traumatized by what she says allegedly took place.
Kelsey and Latrice need to leave Ghost. He deserves neither of them after the way he’s tearing them. Also it really seems that Ghost is more into Latrice than he is into Kelsey.
Sada is so smart. I do hope Whitney and her are able to continue to work through their issues and can stay together.
Agree and agree – both Farrah and Ghost comments. He’s an ultimate douche.
If one iota of Farrah’s horrible past victimizations are true, she wouldn’t be on reality TV telling the world, but in real therapy telling a therapist.
I promise I am not trying to hijack the comment section, but Farrah is fascinating to me. Obvi the girl has problems, but it is so hard to feel sympathy for her bc she is such an asshole. Rolling her eyes, making faces, whenever anyone says anythibg to her-yeah you really want help huh. And I don’t understand why she thinks people don’t like her bc “it’s just a tape of me having sex-get over it.” I don’t think anyone cares about a tape of you having sec. What they do care is that you continually lie about it. You have a young DAUGHTER and Farrah is supposed to be her role model. If she would just own it-I needed/wanted the money, it is what it is, and start taking some constructive criticism, she would begin to show some signs of growth.
Lattice and Kelsey may have feelings for Ghost, but I think they also have feelings for money and “fame.” If a guy you are in love with flat out tells you you’re a side chick and he wants you to meet the girl he really loves, who would stick around for that. Wouldn’t that kill the love? So if she stays with him, she either a. Has no self respect or b. is hoping to live a rapper’a lifestyle. I like Kelsey and I hope she realizes she deserves so much better. Number one, to be happy with someone who thinks Kelsey is enough for him.
And what about Ghost saying to Latrice, “you do whatever I tell you to?” She needs to take a hike too. He doesn’t love either one of them.
As for Farrah, I strongly suspect she was sexually abused as a child by someone. And she is still in that stage where she thinks she has put it behind her but doesn’t understand that all her current choices are based on the trauma. She’s not really consciously aware of how fucked up she is. IMHO.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I think she was just a strong-willed child, and that her parents never learned to harness that and help her think level headed. Especially if the parents themselves are not emotionally all there. They let her run the household.
Right TT. Farrah probably doesn’t realize how transparent she is. She needs a real guidance counselor of some sort, someone to say, let’s face what you are doing and why, let’s try to build you up to a mature adult. She has a “f u all, I am so hot” schtick going as a self defense mechanism, and it’s ruining her life.
Totally agree about Farrah–its so common when abused see-saw btw total denial & fake acceptance and total meltdown. I too had a friend who was utterly bitchy to her family and ran the household. Dropped out of school in 8th grade, pregnant at 16, brought home boys and never once did the parents kick them out when they slept there night after night. The parents would do anything to appease her.
She finally confided to me that she & her cousin had been abused by her fathers brother. At the same time. Absolute horrors. And she refused to ask for help, turn him in. I’ve wondered over the years if her insane controlling behavior w/ her parents was an unconscious way to make them pay for not having protected her.
She was a bombshell too, could and did date any man. Unfortunately, until she got it together, they were all evil, violent men.
Okay, I know all of these comments are relevant to the post, but if we could back off from sharing detailed personal experiences with childhood molestation I’d appreciate it. It’s too close to home for me to read. Thanks.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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why? don’t you like to read sad stories written by commenters at 3am?!
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OK, will refrain from the boo-hoo train.
I thought the “too close to home” comment would have been obvious. Either way. Thanks for moving on.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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TT – it was clear what you meant, just wish the “wink” face was larger so it emphasized that I was simpatico and was only trying to lighten what I had said. Hugs to a fellow traveler.
a, no self respect, no self worth, no self esteem.
about the Farrah chick, she seems to be having a hard time living with her disrespectful decision. Everyone is having sex but not everyone aspires to be a porn star. Part of me wants to blame commercialism but Farrah really justants to do what Farrah wants to do.
Okay. I’ve done some poking around. The best I can determine, the only thing that Farrah would have signed regarding non-disclosure would be the whole “this is a leaked sex tape” thing. Vivid did indeed market the first porno as a leaked sex tape. So she is supposed to stick to that story even after the real leaks were that they were casting for someone willing to fuck Farrah for money.
It seems her plan was to be all freaked out by it like Kim K pretended to be and end up living the good life as a result. When everyone started making fun of her for being a porn star, she freaked out and started making up more lies.
There is nothing anywhere to stop her for talking about all the drugging and raping that happened. Perhaps she should take that information to the police.
ooops. I didn’t see your comment before I made my last one..
Also I get the 2 lesbians names mixed up. Was it Sada or Whitney who said Farrah’s basically just a chick in the room? Whichever one said that and her whole explanation about why Farrah’s impeding their progress as couples in therapy is who I wanted to call Dr. and like you said, take the chair from Jenn, who I now don’t want to refer to as Dr.
I had to lol at Taylor saying something like “this is helpful because now I know I can work with farrah on other areas of her life”. Ummmmm Taylor… you are a PATIENT on the show, not a therapist. Run Farrah, run!
This ‘huge contract’ Farrah claims will ‘ruin the rest of her life’ if she breaches. If it’s related to any of the 2 or 3 issues speculated on: the porn co. and the story of a leaked sex tape; being drugged and raped; or sexual abuse by her family – I still wonder which of those would ruin the rest of her life? I can’t imagine there’s a ‘contract’ between her and her mom and/or dad stating she won’t publically accuse them of sexually abusing her. I can imagine it would ruin their relationship for the rest of all their lives, but not contractually.
The other 2, I find it hard to believe telling the truth would ruin the rest of her life, but her chances at making any more money.
The porn contract breach might ruin her chances of making more porn tapes with the company. Besides, I doubt there’s a soul in the world that doesn’t know it was a professionally filmed porn with a hired, well-known porn star who obviously wasn’t held to a non-disclosure agreement, since he’s spoken on it more than once. But if her contract requires her to lie, it’s likely unenforceable because of it – and a variety of other affirmative defenses (capacity, unconscionable – considering her age and maturity).
Drugged and raped, I doubt she’s in a contractual situation over this if true, and it’s not reported to law enforcement – I’m sure that would have gotten out by now.
And Jenn saying what Farrah told her was the most horrible thing she’s ever heard and Farrah saying the huge contract will ruin the rest of her life if she breaches, it’s all to incredible when taking both in consideration to me. Farrah may very well have told her something, could have been another lie too. But Jenn had to make a case to the others to justify why Farrah is even there, and it still has nothing to do with being a couple.
As Dr. Sada said so eloquently, Farrah’s just another chick in the room – but can only live the horrible life experiences she’s suffered on reality TV.
Right, I would feel awful if Farrah’s father was the one that sexually abuses her as a child but who do you think is taking care of her child while she is on the show now… Hmmmm??
I prefer we tread gently when implying that someone is lying about abuse. Sexual promiscuity (ie porno tapes) is a classic symptom of abuse. Her behavior is actually right I line with how many people react especially in their 20s.
But yes, I get it is Farrah….
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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I’m not saying she’s lying. I’m just saying why would you tell the whole world that you let your father move in to your guest house if that’s the case.
The relationship between a child and their molester parent is usually very complicated, as is the whole entire family dynamic. If no one ever protected the child from being abused and/or caused a break in the relationship, many do not treat that parent any differently than any normal person would treat a parent, especially not when the person is still relatively young and hasn’t come into their own, and/or gone through extensive therapy, etc. Many times it is the non abusing parent who the victim has more angry feelings towards, because that person didn’t protect them. You can’t use rational thinking to try and figure out answers to this sort of thing. Not that I’m saying that it is true, because of course, none of us knows, but her having her father living with her, and/or taking care of her daughter, or anything else, doesn’t mean that it didn’t.
Just as in saying that her overly- sexual and attention seeking behavior is that of a sexually abused person. There are just as many victims that don’t act that way, as there are young adults that have extremely strict parents who chose to act out once they hit puberty.
Brianna there are many victims that don’t act this way, but many more that do. It’s a common thread among porn, prostitution, stripping, etc. that somewhere along the way abuse occurred. Once you are abused your entire self worth and thinking process changes and you have a hard time with your sexuality.
I agree. Farrah displays all of the signs of an abuse victim. While watching teen mom, her mother was crazy, “Michael” was also a little strange. Farrah did not stand a chance. Her estranged baby daddy died, her mom was prosecuted for trying to beat her up. She really tries to act like she has put it all behind her, but I suspect the feelings, and trauma are going to blind side her. I really feel badly for the little girl. Poor Sophie.
When she moved to Florida, I really thought she was growing up and making better decisions. She does have potential as a person, but the abuse and trauma has really taken its toll. She does appear to have that Hollywood- plastic- fake thing going in. She has had all of the surgeries, Botox., etc. I think that makes her appear inauthentic. But, she really is a wounded individual. I really hope she can find some way to heal.
It seems Abuse victims have a way of self destructing. Because she is hurting, she makes very destructive decisions. She is just a hurting person. I really hope she can get better.
My heart broke for Farrah when I saw this episode. She’s obviously hurting. I would hate to see one bad decision ruin a young woman’s life.
Well….since we are going there…I always thought there was a creepy vibe from that man. The way they were, I also questioned whether he was her real father. There’s an awkward, stilted feeling to their interractions, and he doesn’t talk to her like a father. On Dr. Phil he acted like her porn was just peachy, he didn’t seem to be a concerned father. If he molested her as a girl, that awkwardness would make sense. It’s guilt and denial.
Farrah has obviously suffered severe Childhood trauma of some sort. It could be physical, mental, emotional or a combination.
She seems “checked out”, which could be a dissociative disorder, which is a common defense mechanism for survivors of trauma.
Whatever, her problem is, she is apparently, still a child emotionally. I have never witnessed a young woman who has had early exposure to Reality TV (or a certain type of fame) self sabotage her life in such a short period of time with such a negative stigma associated to her..
She made awful choices, yes. She trusted people in the Porno Industry. This is a kid from Council Bluffs, Iowa, not from L.A. or NYC.She seems like she is a people pleaser and trying to find acceptance..
At, least she IS in therapy. OK, Reality TV at least provided her with a safe ( sort of) environment and a chance for healing. At, least she is making an effort..
No one knows how they would act, behave or appear if they facing whatever demons she is dealing with..
I hope Dr.Jenn is a good therapist and follows through with this girl. I for one, am tired of watching these young girls expose their entire personal lives and hardships on Reality TV and then end up with more severe problems other than pregnancy. Where is Dr. Drew and after care?
Kelsey? Walk out on that playa, head held high and don’t look back..
Wait has Farrah ever said that her father sexually abused her?? Are these just assumptions from watching her on the show? If she never said he did then how would me taking a stance against this be implying that she is lying? I think we shouldn’t make accusations against a man we’ve never met before. He could be a great dad and grandfather. Farrah seemed actually pretty normal when Teen Mom first started. I think her actions are just that of a little girl that was forced to be a mom way too young because her parents didn’t offer her other solutions this is something she has actually admitted. She was finishing culinary school and working at the beginning of Teen Mom and she was doing great, but then when she get her boobs done is when things went down hill. I think she started getting the attention she was missing out on and wanted to be a teenager again. Chelsea’s on Teen Mom 2 dad treats her like a QUEEN should we cause him of being a predator too?
No one is accusing anyone of anything. Some people are discussing the odd relationship she has with “Michael.” I was curious if he was her bio father since she refers to him by his first name and seems to order him around.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:
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Here’s how I see Farrah’s story and why I’m having a difficult time in having pity for her – although if finding out she was really sexually abused as a child, I’d most likely look at things in a different light:
Farrah has been on TV since she was 16, being paid for it. She likes the money and the attention and the fame or the infamy. She got her first taste of national attention at 16 only because she made a poor decision and had a baby and some reality TV executives thought a show like that would be a good idea. It’s extremely rare that she or any other 16-year-old teen mom is prepared or mature enough to be a mother and care for a baby, let alone do that in front of the world.
While on Teen Mom, she was less than pleasant to anyone; she thought her baby daddy was a jerk and treated him and her parents like jerks & wanted nothing to do with him, broke up with him mostly and ended up frequently abusing substances and having freestyle sex to get even with him (or so she’s written). Then, the baby daddy died, and all of a sudden, unbeknownst to him, his parents or hers while he lived, he was the love of her life and she doubts she’ll ever get over the tragic loss. Then she was dealt another blow because her baby’s grandparents wanted to see the baby, she refused and in the battle belittled the grandparents to her little 2 year old. Saying things like “If a little f*****g thing comes in my way like this then I’m going to take care of it….It’s put a hold on me moving forward in my life….I don’t need any
further communication (with her). I have so much negativity towards her, it makes me cry.” [about the paternal grandmother in an interview with Daily Mail].
But she turned that upside down frown around and figured a way to garner more sympathy and rewrite history to make more money, an autobiography at the ripe age of 20. This Farrah comes across as a rather resilient and calculating ‘teen’ who lets nothing or no one get in her way and aware of how to turn a tragedy into a buck.
But that taste of being known, no matter for what, was enough to continue to this day to search for another way to stay in the limelight and be paid for it. Published stories, interviews, photos, TV, film – basically anything in which TMZ would be interested. Things didn’t go exactly as smooth as being 16, pregnant in the right place and the right time as when MTV thought that was good grist for a reality TV show. So to remain a household name, she made a left turn and ended up in film. It unfortunately wasn’t mainstream film – a backdoor film – but nonetheless, she’s on DVD’s and being paid for it. Farrah has told a variety of stories, now proven to be lies, about the circumstances of
the professional porno film she made. The story of the accidental leak of her boyfriend and her private, homemade keepsake would have worked just fine, except for the professional porn actor that she paid to do it told the truth that it was a professional porn film & he was not her
boyfriend & it was anything but private. I think she would have fared just fine if she had just told the truth, she needed money, she’s raising a toddler by herself, and she took advantage of an opportunity. But she didn’t.
So Farrah told another fiction: she had a boyfriend, was in relationship trouble, and needed Couple’s Therapy and to be on the show. She would have gone on to lie throughout the whole season about that fake relationship and God knows what else if only the guy she was going to pay didn’t back out and tell the truth – he was never her BF and even the
money couldn’t persuade him to go through with it.
However, by whatever crook or hook, she’s now on Couple’s Therapy, another Reality TV program, the only single person ever on what’s supposed to be a couple’s show – about relationships – so it’s necessary that she has a story/storyline to make her relevant at all on it. Again, no one warmed up to her or her attitude, and she warmed up to no one. Now she’s told some God-awful new secret that no one else knows or will probably know the truth about. She’s claiming some mysterious huge contract is ruining her life because it prevents her from telling the truth.
This girl has been involved in TV contracts since she was 16 and
most likely has professionals/lawyers not to mention her parents, that read these huge contracts and explain to her in small, understandable words, what she is signing on to, up for, or away. So I don’t buy that a 100-page contract was shoved her way and in her naivete and youth she didn’t understand what she was doing. I also don’t believe any contract would require her to lie or not tell the truth – or would ruin the rest of her life.
So, after what we do know about this now 22 yr old, are we now to believe that she is to be pitied for choosing to deal with her serious issues on Reality TV for money because she may or may not be a victim of sexual abuse? We’re to now believe everything she says considering her history and we’re to understand that all these lies and fame-seeking behavior for the last 6 years, for money, is simply the unwise decisions of a 6-year reality TV veteran who is a broken, damaged victim. And I have no way of knowing if she was a victim of sexual abuse. I only know what she’s put out there and her history of sex, lies and videotape.
For me, having pity for her is a lot to swallow.
Wow…well everything you described could also be the actions of a girl that was abused. I never feel it necessary to discredit someone who says they were raped/abused because if you weren’t there you don’t know.
Where did Farrah say she was a victim of sexual abuse? It’s a speculation in this comment section so I am not discrediting someone who said she was a victim of sexual abuse
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You said above:
“Ya, it’s hard to believe her…she needs someone to sit her down say cut the crap, grow up, start focusing on your future not porn….her porn is a joke…” I agree with everything you said there. I guess now though, you believe she is a victim of sexual abuse when she hasn’t made the claim?
I am really only pointing out how hard it is to believe anything she says after her history on national TV, in the media, & after about the 3rd lie she’s told that wouldn’t explain anything related to being sexually abused. Her lies explain everything about being desperate to be on TV, film, and in the media. I’m having a hard time believing a proven liar in anything she says that can’t be verified.
If she would listen to someone who could sit her down – say a real therapist not on TV – perhaps they can help her with her real issues and her and her baby could lead a healthy life not surrounded by cameras.
Yes she needs someone to help her cut through the crap. She needs someone to help her get control. She is claiming she is a victim of abuse, idk from who, could be family or strangers or both. I feel bad for her if she is and want her to get help. It’s hard when someone is so unlikable to feel pity, but sometimes those people need it the most.
And to JoJo fyi my comment wasn’t meant to be snarky. I say wow cuz it was such a long post and a lot to digest. Farrah could be a total psycho liar and just trying to get attention…but even then I guess I’d feel bad for her for that cuz she is young and something made her that way. The only broad I can’t seem to pity is Taylor, my spidey senses tell me she is just bad news.
Exactly I tried to point that out earlier. she has never said it so idk why “I prefer we tread gently when implying that someone is lying about abuse. Sexual promiscuity (ie porno tapes) is a classic symptom of abuse. Her behavior is actually right I line with how many people react especially in their 20s.” Would even be a legit response since there is no lie to even be implied!
Briana I see that you also commented about the discussion of speculating her issue may be sexual abuse.
I think things obviously have happened to Farrah that she had no control over – especially the dynamic with her parents especially the mom. Others have happened by choices she made, but still they’re rotten things during her young life. But the obsession she has to deal with all these serious issues in the public eye is what’s questionable. She’s obviously made some money to be able to quietly and privately see a professional therapist or psychiatrist.
The big issue is she’s not the only one involved in this, but she’s made this show so far all about her. She has a toddler that needs a mother not obsessed about being on the front page of tabloids. Hell, I managed a self-service gas station at 22 to pay for college. It can be done to work in order to be self-sufficient and not work to be famous.
Tango, no offense taken. And yeh, I guess what I was trying to do was lay out the case for Farrah being addicted to fame more than a victim of unspeakable horrors.
But I think I know now what this “huge” contract” that she claims will ruin the rest of her life is all about. The second porn tape is nothing but outtakes of the original they didn’t use. She signed an exclusivity agreement that anything shot during that session was the property of Vivid. I think she obviously wanted to put that porn tape behind her, it didn’t turn out as planned. I guess rehabilitate her image as author of a parenthood book, religious awakening etc.
Well that 2nd tape is coming out, which will do nothing for her reputation and yeh, I can see how she views it as possibly ruining the rest of her life. Guess she didn’t see that coming at all. The pro porn actor was just interviewed on TMZ about it.
But the secret that was the most horrible that the 20-year therapist, Jenn, was told is a whole other story.
Brianna, I can’t accuse Michael of anything. Just speaking from my feeling, that guy creeps me out. Chelsea’s dad never creeps me out, he seemed just like a doting father. But Michael seems not to be genuine for some reason and seems like an enabler. He just…creeps me out. Maybe it’s just his personality, I know some nice people can appear odd, but he seems so cold.
OMG. People. She never claimed that her parents SEXUALLY abused her in that ROL post. She made 2 separate claims. 1)her parents physically abused her. This is well documented, and not even “news”. She spoke about it extensively on camera to her therapist on Teen Mom, after her mom went to jail for hitting her and threatening her with a knife. Her mother answered the door with the knife still in her hand when the cops came, and copper a deal for community service. Her mother is completely insane, and both her kids hate her, but are also very codependent on her for “help”- which is the way Debra wants it. It’s about control. Something is very wrong with Michael, but it remains my feeling that the serious mental and physical abuse was at the hands of Debra. Farrah has said that Debra and Michael would fight and drop the kids at their grandmother’s house for months at a time to pursue their own interests. (Hello, pattern??)
2)Farrah claimed she was raped during her porn tour- AFTER the video was already filmed! She did the porn thinking it would turn her into the next Paris or Kim. She has been lobbying to get cast on Couples Therapy for YEARS, and was pissed that Tyler and Catelynn beat her to it, but no dude would go on with her. I actually believe that Farrah was raped during her porn tour. She is a very naive girl. Remember how she got scammed and her car stolen when she tried to sell it in craigslist? Painfully dumb girl who has potential for success but I believe her mother beat her confidence out of her. Remember how her mother forced her to keep the baby, then refused to allow her to even acknowledge paternity to Sophia’s father until he had been long dead? Debra is a sociopath.
good points.
Seems to me Farrah watched the Lovelace movie ad came up with a ” new plot line ” to keep her in the spot light and make us all feel pity for her…seriously if my parents abused me so horribly I would NEVER leave my MINOR child with that person!!! She leaves that kid with them for months at a time. She is a sick little girl and I think it is more from being ignored and spoiled by her parents than it is from abuse….after watching her on 16&pregnant I would have slapped the teeth out of my daughter if she spoke to me that way too!!! She’s a nasty vindictive narcissist and she needs to be mentally evaluated and under conservatorship like Amanda & Brittney before she screws herself or her kid up anymore!
She is a nasty girl in need of help, I totally agree. But you should know that there are many different kinds of emotional abuse dynamics, and it is not unheard of for a girl her age, in her situation, to rely on her family for childcare even if/ after they beat her. I’m not getting into all the details of that here. I will say that I wish Whitney was in charge of this fiasco. She is the only one who made any sense. “Dr. Jenn” is such a joke.