In the Couples Therapy house it is the morning after the Strawberry Massacre. Almost immediately, I realize why Abby is being such a bitch. This whole FF and Liz sideshow is drawing the ire of Joe Francis off of her and on to another target, so she is happy to join forces with Joe and be on the same side. I also imagine that Joe is telling the truth when it comes to FF and Liz not smelling particularly pleasant. When you are as depressed as Liz and FF are, showering is not a priority. Liz rarely leaves the bed. That said, Joe’s constant classist comments about Liz and FF are very telling about how Joe judges the importance of others, and it is all about money. It is also interesting that he assumes FF and Liz live below the poverty line somewhere.
Dr. Jenn meets with FF one on one, mostly because there is no talking to Liz, and everyone else in the house is pissed off. FF is giving a surprisingly intelligent account of what happened the night before. He is aware that Joe had a lot of pent up animosity toward him. He acknowledges he got defensive. He is giving a pretty insightful account of the cause of both parties behavior. FF is saying he is willing to be the bigger man. He doesn’t want to leave the house with issues between any of the others.
Dr. Jenn meets with FF. Joe says he didn’t even want to be in the room with FF’s bad energy. He called FF “trash” and “a joke.” Joe says he is dedicated to the therapy and FF is robbing him of the experience. He says if he wanted to be around “people like that” he would go down to the homeless shelter, like he does on Thanksgiving and serve them a meal. Instead of saying, “Wow Joe, you really are a douchebag!” she says, “I hear how angry you are.” Joe drones on about himself. Dr. Jenn asks him, “If you and Abby were to have a baby, how would you want to announce it? Would it be meaningful to you? Would you want to be allowed the dignity to announce it when you were ready, on your terms?” Joe doesn’t get the correlation at all. He says that FF was using the pregnancy as an excuse for all of their terrible behavior in the house. Dr. Jenn asks if Joe feels like he instigated anything. He says that he will acknowledge his role, but if he had to do it again he would do the same thing. Then he begins his dramatic acting, he tears up and says this is the most dramatic thing they have been through as a couple, blah blah blah. Dr. Jenn is not buying this. She tells Joe that FF wants to apologize to Joe. FOR WHAT? Joe acted like the asshole. All he had to do was have a glass of champagne and a strawberry and be done with it. Joe, sensing he is maintaining the upper hand says he doesn’t want to accept his apology. So, the group therapy is tabled until the next day.
Tyler has a one-on-one with Dr. Mike about his relationship with his father. Tyler says he has less anxiety when his father was in jail. Tyler feels responsible for his father, in a life or death way. Tyler is worried that his dad is going to die. Caitlyn comes to comfort him, but it doesn’t seem like he is very receptive to her comfort.
Both shrinks want to meet with FF and Joe to resolve their issues. Joe insists that Abby be in on the meeting. How manly of him. FF walks over to Joe and holds out his hand to shake hands. Joe almost doesn’t take it and then says, “Well what do you have to say?” Dr. Jenn says that FF wanted to make amends and FF responds with “yes, as long as the feeling was mutual.” He mentions the negative energy coming off of Joe. FF says he did not draw first blood in the situation. Somehow, Joe hears an apology in what FF said. He says he will reciprocate the apology that I didn’t even hear, maybe it was edited on the condition that FF “can behave.” Joe seems to think that screaming at a pregnant women and his wife dumping her celebratory strawberries (aren’t strawberries usually sort of BEFORE the baby making even starts?) is exemplary behavior. Somehow they hug it out. In a talking head, FF says he knows Joe’s apology was insincere.
The group topic is sex. Tyler wants sex more than Caitlynn. Dustin only wants it when Heather wants it. Because Dustin did porn, he doesn’t want meaningless sex with Heather. Chingy says that when he doesn’t want sex she immediately thinks something is wrong. Oh wait, hold up, these two don’t even live together, they are in a nice house sharing a bed for three weeks and Chingy says he is working on his patience to see if he can go three weeks without it? Don’t they live in different towns? Girlfriend, he has promised his number one girl he will not do you in the house and he will be dumping you shortly. AND his number one lives in LA where you live so one of you has to go. How dumb are you? The counselors fail to point this out. I would put money on it. Oddly, they do not show Joe and Abby discussing their sex lives.
Next there was an outdoor aggression release activity. While Tyler half-heartedly beats a car with a baseball bat while mumbling to his father, Joe Francis tells Chingy’s soon to be ex-girlfriend that “they don’t want to do it because it will be on The Soup!” Always giving a performance, that Joe. When Dr. Jenn asks Joe to go, he says “they” don’t want to do it because they don’t like violence. When Dr. Jenn provides Joe with the definition of violence, he says that when it comes to anger there is an intellectual divide. That only dumb people get angry. While I agree that there is an intellectual divide regarding anger, I believe the phrase is “ignorance is bliss” and then there is the practical application of being around lots of stupid people, like Joe, who don’t realize they are stupid. Things like that drive people to anger. Then Chingy’s soon to be dumped girlfriend rats him out about The Soup comment and Joe blatantly lies and says that she was telling HIM that. Then Joe uses the childhood abuse story to get out of participating which irritates me to no end. Then he makes Abby participate (after first telling her she could not). The amazing thing was the things she said to that scale she took the sledgehammer to were EXACTLY what she needs to say to Joe. This was actually probably the most helpful thing anyone has done. Until Liz. She went batshit on some dishes while screaming at FF for all the stupid shows and women while she was pregnant
Next Week: Joe goes in on Heather, because preying on the weakest person in the room is his forte. He continues to project his low self-esteem on everyone else. Caitlynn’s mother shows up looking surprisingly sober. Abby talks about all the damage her eating disorder has done to her body and how she is afraid she will die. Joe tries to go through the motions of someone who has sympathy for others.
I have to state, without sounding condescending or making any readers want to vomit, the topic of FF and Lisa’s aroma brings back specific scents to mind that are not appealing. The odor that predominantly permeates my nose hair is that of unwashed hair, more specifically the stench of hair not touched by shampoo for over a decade possibly peppered with lice with ADHD (no offense to those belonging to the community of which this is a serious medical disorder) unable to sit still and wanting to hop from host to host. I am not sure I would want to be in the same house as them, other then watching their train wreck of a relationship you would be unable to turn away from. In other words, I would not sit to closely to them or even downwind. Enough said about that rancid subject. Sorry, that time of the month… :/
Sammiejane I was thinking I tense B.O. When you’re high like Liz, showering is a drag.
Hey, Viva… This brings back flashbacks of when I was younger and I went out drinking with everyone! I remember waking the next day and not being able to focus on anything until I got the stench of booze and cigarettes off of me. This usually entailed an hour long, steaming hot shower, followed by brushing my teeth at least 4 times…. Awwww, the good ole days…. pffft! Thank GAWD, I out grew that shit!!! LM~effin~AO!!!!
oh yes – i love that most everywhere is nonsmoking now!
Lol SAME HERE. Back in the old days when you could smoke cigarettes in the bar or the club. First thing in the am was to wash your hair!
I’m not sure where the show is filmed, but If it’s in a high temp dry heat state like Arizona, Nevada or Texas FF would really stink. He wears too many clothes. Most times some sort of headscarf, a cap, shirt, jacket and sweat pants all at once. The others normally dress in just jeans and t-shirt or blouse. Liz is usually spaced out and may not remember if she showered or not. With all that said, Joe is far from perfect and really needs help. He has major mental problems. He said, “He’ll accept FF’s apology only if he BEHAVES.” FF may stink, but he’s not an animal.
I’m pretty sure they’re in Southern CA. And I totally agree. They both look…unwashed.
Wow…that’s all I have…Joe is acting like a rabid ass dog and all is being said is that FF smells….
Based on the recap above I decided to watch this show out of curiosity. I must say (this epis.anyway) they are just as intense as any of the HW shows.JF does come across as a d–khead just like he did in his “girls gone wild” infomercials. FF seems to be the same way he’s always been from back in the 80’s no better no worse, and could care less. Couldn’t get a read on his girfriend (or wife?) Like I said I hadn’t been watching this one from the 1st epis.Don’t think it was right for JF girllfriend to dump the strawberries, some of the other couples might’ve wanted some. I do remember the the couple from 16 & pregnant, I always thought they would’ve made it if not for their parents. Don’t know anything about Chingy (except he had a rap song out several years ago) and his ladyfriend (or wife?) It seems interesting enough for me to watch it some more.
FF and Liz do really prove that there truly is someone for everyone.
I feel sorry for Liz…She has such a broken spirit…She always has a “grumpy cat” face…I will never understand the amount of women that “kick it” with FF…
Remeber all those dating shows he did for VH-1?…Ewww. I’ll never forget the girl nicknamed “Somethin” took a shit dump right there on the floor in front of everrrrbody…” She just squatted and PLOP!…Sorry I know it’s gross but hysterical..
OMG!!!! I remember that. That was probably the single most disgusting moment on TV (besides the nightly make out sessions each girl had with FF).
Urethra,
I completely agree with you… Liz is damaged… I truly wonder what has happened in her life to make her so “broken”… Very sad (Guuuh, I think I just showed that I do have a heart behind all my cynicism and sarcastic remarks). And !iccccck! I remember the episode you are talking about when that girl copped a squat on the floor, I too thought that was hilarious! Again, makes me wonder what kind of women would class themselves down to be on such a train wreck of a show…. and to think most slept with that stinky, bottom feeding, “little” man. Brings me back around to Liz who was sitting at home waiting on that piece of shit (FF) to come home and give her money for groceries. 🙁
Obviously Joe is forgetting about the time he allegedly attacked another woman at a bar a few years ago. Then used malipulation and down right fear to get Abby to lie to the police. He is the most disgusting human being I have ever seen on a reality tv show! My skin crawls when I look at him and those cold dead eyes of Abby. I once felt sorry for her but now I know they deserve each other! Ff and Liz may stink but their nowhere the trash that Joe is! Ewe I can’t believe I am talking about someone’s smells on a blog, ha I just cracked myself up just thinking about that whole situation!
Agreed. FF may be gross, but JF is a horrible human being. I remember him being a dick on RHOM to Joanna (who I am no fan of). And wasn’t he trying to get Marta to go home with him? That wasn’t too long ago. Where was Abby?
But what about Abby’s vomit breath. Her mom taught her how to cover up the smell and dispose of the vomit. I doubt if she can cover it up all the time. She and Joe are always kissing which is down right disgusting.
TT,
Let me say that you have truly outdone yourself with this recap!!! I laughed so hard reading this. I really felt like I was watching it myself. I am not a fan of this show, but did manage to watch a few minutes of it the other night – what a trainwreck!! FF and Joe are both disgusting and YES, I can smell FF through the TV.
Joe Francis(Mr. Morality) is so pathetic. He attempts to demean anyone he believes is not giving him all the attention, so he constantly spews garbage from his month in order to gain attention. How would he know about what smells? The girls gone wild videos all looked like they smelled of butussy( but + pu**y).
I can’t believe his many people can only focus on his silly smell comments.
Yes. Chingy does appear to have another chick.
Chingy shows no love for his girlfriend, in fact he shows a bit of disdain . A man who doesn’t have sex or make love when its offered, is either gay, cheating, has noodle problems, exhausted from prior sex. or is dedicated to someone else.
See, thats how y’all know thess reality shows be fake. Look at Flavor Flav’s girl, then look at them chicks from Flavor of Love. Hoopz wasn’t trying to hit that shit. Only a white woman would hit that shit, his breath look like it stink.
Joe needs a reality check. He made is money from being a douchebag and he still is one. Flava may not be the most dapper man on the planet, but he has been around as a celeb for years and deserves more respect than that from a little piss ant like Joe.
you are joking of course
No I am not joking. He has been around for years, he’s a piano prodigy, self taught, and was in Public Enemy and on Mtv and radio shows.. What has Joe ever done besides film naked girls? That sounds “white trash” to me. Of course FF isn’t a role model, he’s been through the drug addiction and troubled life and he’s rough. But I think he deserves more respect than Joe gave him. It shows your character when you treat others poorly, even if you think you are better than them.
Yea, FF has been around for quite sometime. He’s extremely talented in the music field, however, his personal life has been a total train wreck.
For those who don’t know, the clock and his sideways cap are part of his brand. Sort of like Mr. T and his gold chains; Elvis’ jumpsuits; Liberache’s costumes/rings; Michael Jackson’s silver glove; Elton’s glasses; Kris Kross’ backwards clothing; the Queen of England’s matching dresses and hats. Whatever FF is and all that he’s done, he didn’t treat anyone badly on the show. Joe, on the other hand was continuously rude and obnoxious. I can’t find words for Liz.
Other than needing money badly, why would anyone want to know about FF and his white trash girlfriend? 50 years old, never had a job, still wearing a clock around his neck, got kids up the @$$, I’m sure he don’t support…I see n****** like him and white trash every day…next!!
Dummy he (FF) was in a group making money. You sound like you must be Joe. Is that you Joe??? Are you afraid you are going to jail to be all the brothers new bitch??? They will pass you around like the low life you are. After they are done with you they will make you walk around with your stinky ass all day long without shoes on. Hahahahaha
Another episode of the Joe Show aired last night. Can’t wait for episode 10. Joe threw water in Heather’s face and called her trailer trash. When Dustin went after Joe, he ran down the hall and closed his door like a little girl.
I don’t understand his sense of elitism. He is a gambling addict con man PIMP. Joe is the trashy one. He was in jail for nearly a year for rackeetering charges in 2007. A few months ago he was convicted of 5 charges for crimes agains women. Three misdemeanor counts of false imprisonment, one of assault causing great bodily injury, and one for witness tampering. He faces a maximum of five years in prison…Not to mention in the past he has been sued for getting underage girls to go topless on his videos… He is the defintion of scum trash pimp mongerer….I’d rather hang out with a barefoot hard working honest trailer park resident over this clowny elitist trash bag Joe Francis any day….
Has anyone brought that up on the show. He seems to google everyone. I wonder if the cast don’t care enough to check him out, or doesn’t know, or don’t want to stoop to his disparaging level. Joe would have a massive stroke if they did.
Last night’s final episode was really good. Joe and Abby couldn’t stand the heat after last week’s hit and run episode, so they gathered their toys and left. Counselor Jen was too easy on them. She should have embarrassed the hell out of them both, but, they didn’t have a paramedic on stand by. Neither can handle public degradation, but they dished it quite easily. I’m sure one or both will make national news pretty soon for doing something crazy. They seem to be hanging by a thread.