After writing almost 1,500 blog posts here, there are times when I know I have covered something before and want to link to it. Nothing is more frustrating than not being able to find previous relevant posts. Alas, I have looked all morning for two posts about Bethenny Frankel. I distinctly remember researching Warren Lichtenstein and yet nothing shows up in search, in categories or in the archive month of things that occurred. So I am just going to rewrite the gist of what I posted.
Back in October, Bethenny went to Hong Kong with her friend Warren Lichtenstein who is even more wealthy than she is. She wanted to take Bryn but Jason nixed that. At that point divorce rumors were already swirling and this raised some eyebrows. The following December, two days before Christmas, Bethenny confirms the divorce on twitter. Then she spends Christmas in Aspen, with her friend, Warren Lichtenstein. Stories diverge a bit here. Some say she was there after Christmas but not Christmas day. It seems on this trip, she took Bryn with her.
Which brings us to today, Bethenny is in St. Tropez with Warren. It is doubtful that Bryn is there because I believe that Jason has asked the court not to let Bethenny take Bryn out of the country, at least for now, without his permission. Bethenny and Bryn have been staying at Warren’s NYC apartment off and on both when Warren is in town and when he is not. However, at this point Bethenny and Jason still live in their luxury apartment a situation which is uncomfortable for everyone. It is rumored that Bethenny called Jason “trash” in front of Bryn and that Jason has filed court documents over that situation. Both parents are seeking physical custody of Bryn. Other rumors swirl that Bethenny wants to limit Bryn’s time with her grandparents, Jason’s parents. I find that hard to believe. Meanwhile, Jason continues to wear his wedding ring. Many find this odd, but not me. Jason and Bethenny are currently married. He did not file for divorce.
So with that background, I have a question. Despite all “sources close to Bethenny” loudly proclaiming that the two are just friends. Do you believe it? At least three trips together in ten months? Spending nights in his apartment with Bryn? I am not sure what I think. What about y’all?
I have no idea. Anything Bethenney does is fine with me.
Man is that dude fugly. He MUST have tons of $$$.
THIS!
I know Warren, his family is family friends with mine, and I dated one of his best friends Michael Schwab, Warren likes kink and something tells me that is NOT Bethany.
whoa. that is fun to know!
Before I even type my comment, let me just say that I do not like nor dislike Bethenney – it’s a reality show – she doesn’t matter at all to me in my life! HOWEVER, I think Jason is being quite the douchbag in all of this. He filed paperwork because Bethenney called him trash in front of Bryn….OH PLEASE! Totally ridic and a waste of taxpayer’s money (not his legal fees). Everyone working this case from the file clerk to the judge have to get paid from somewhere – out of taxpayer’s money.
I knew this marriage would not work out and for Bryn I feel sorry. These two need to grow the F up.
I’ve said this before – I was in a relationship with someone a lot (LOT LOT) like Jason and everyone took his side because he was the “nice guy” and “who could possibly not like him”. Heh seems that only the ones close to the person really know what they are like. Having said that I hope Bethenney didn’t go for the “he’ll change with time” number because as she found out – they don’t change!!!!!! As for Bethenney, she should keep the mean comments to herself especially in front of their daughter, but to file papers because he was called trash -well the only thing I have to say about that is he should count his lucky stars he isn’t on RHONJ!!! LOL! We’d have to have a separate show for that!
He did not file a separate suit, silly. He simply put it on record in the ongoing child custody situation.
And Warren is a billionaire, and Jewish like Bethenny.
How graphic can I get on here? Let me tell you this, unless Bethany is into some not main stream stuff, she will not be with Warren.
Bethenny is Jewish on from her father’s side of the family. She is not technically Jewish, her mother isn’t Jewish, she did not make her Bat Mitzvah and she does not follow the Jewish religion or rituals. Her mother is Christian, so basically Bethenny is Chewish.
Oh wow, I know a lot of Chews. Lots of them even post here!
A lot of the Shrew-ish persuasion as well.
I do think that they are an item, if not they will be that guys loaded.
If these two get together, Bethany’s stock is going to go way up for me, I will never be able to think of her in the same way again, lol.
Ditto on their marriage, when he wanted to go home to mom/dad every weekend – that was just too much. He tried to make up for the loss of his brother at the expense of a marriage. The judge needs to get Jason out of that house, I would think it would be torture going on this long in the same house! There is a pre-nup but Jason will get above and beyond that no doubt. It has long been rumored that Jason’s camp leaks to ROL so I take a lot of their reporting with a large grain of salt. Bethany has tweeted that the rumors are not true (i.e., calling him trash) and .
Just as Kordell shouldn’t have locked out Porscha out of the house, Jason has every right to stay in the house.
I must say, with as much resentment and bitterness as there seems to be on both sides, if the worst insult on record is trash, they’re doing much better than I thought.
Ewwww!! Sometimes there’s just not enough money …
I actually think he looks pretty good for a billionaire (at least compared to other billionaires out there — Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffett…). He looks like he’d be a fun guy to hang around (until he whipped out the whatevers!).
Lmaoo at ” until he whips out the whatever”
Having had friends who were nothing more than friends, I mean they both had each other firmly in the “friend” zone so hard that later significant others simply laughed at them…I don’t really have an opinion either way. Maybe he likes playing uncle to Bryn and a confidential ear to Bethenny. No clue.
Come on people, he is not that bad looking, though he is short! He is wealthy, a wheeler dealer biz type and this is the type of man that Bethany probably needs. He spends his money on her, and not hers, which is what it felt like with Jason – her money. As for the alleged kink, maybe he gets that on the side and Bethany is the respectable date for all other times.
It seems like Bethenny needs to be with someone who makes more than her, she seemed like she was always talking down to him, saying things like, “He’s not ambitious enough” and what not. I always felt like she held the fact that she made more over his head. I would guess dating a billionaire would make her more submissive??
My understanding is that Warren appreciates a good submissive…
I don’t care how much more money he has than her… I can never see Bethany being submissive, including in the bed room. I cannot even imagine her being remotely capable of such a thing.
I can’t imagine her in a bedroom, for that matter….
Touche… lol.
Go back to the RHNY’s beginning. Bethany, who I like a LOT, was desparate to be married. Remember that dinner w/ her current beau of the moment? She practically begged him to marry her. I was so embarrassed for her. I would also bet all my spidey senses that she has great big enormous ‘daddy issues’. With her dough, I wouldn’t think his money would be that important, but what would I know since I’m poor as a church mouse.
Isabella, please do tell us more. We have this down week while we wait on the Sniederman trial. 🙂
I would but I promised to keep G rated and there is nothing about him that falls into that category.
Maybe she sees him as more her equal. It seemed at times Jason thought he was her rival. While I liked Jason ok, he did act like a 12 year old sometimes.
No way are Bethenny and this billionaire Warren person “just friends.” Women don’t take trips with male “friends” unless the friends are gay and everyone knows it. Women who are looking at custody battles don’t take trips with male “friends” unless the payoff is big because the risk is so great. Bethenny must really be into Warren to travel with him. (I don’t mean a monetary payoff…more in terms of love, companionship, and whatever else she needs.) And I have a feeling compulsive, neurotic, obsessive Bethenny knows how to get her freak on. But maybe it’s just me.
I make trips with my male friends sometimes, no strings attached. It is possible to have a male friend without there being something else involved.
the other exception is the straight guy with a thing for you who is hoping something will happen but won’t push too hard. went thru that a lot when young.
Isn’t Warren the guy who travels with a lot of pretty women (usually much, much taller than he is)? Didn’t Brandi hint in her book that she went on some jaunt with Warren? I think she concluded “nice guy but no [long-lasting at least] chemistry”. Isabella, any inside info?
I am not saying a word about this because the info I have needs to be posted on ALT.com, not TT.
I had to look that up to see what it was… Wow. 🙂
zoyks!
But I am sure that Brandi would have faked the chemistry thing for a billionaire:, translation “he wasn’t that into her.”.
Probably right!
I believe that Brandi dated a different billionaire – I don’t remember his name, but I believe it was Michael(or some other common name) and he was LA based – she never actually said his last name in the book, but thanked him in the acknowledgements and I googled him and it seemed to check out.
Tamara, you did write about him awhile back. I hope you find the stories so we can re-read.
I read somewhere that their friendship also involved helping her with some problems she’s having with her business.
From my take on it, Bethenny is very shrewd. She is very demanding and needs a man of higher “status” than her in order to respect him. I was her #1 fan years ago, her yoga dvd helped me regain strength after I had my baby. But after watching her on Bethenny Ever After, and seeing her total control freak attitude and her disdain for Jason’s parents, I really disliked her. She had everything but it was never enough. She spoke so much about her bad childhood it got to be annoying. I had a worse childhood, and I treat my husband and in-laws like gold. If I had the money she does, my in-laws would have a place to live near me, or at least a nice room in my home. I would NEVER make fun of the hole-in-the-wall bar my hubby took me to in his hometown. She is one of those women who’s idea of “rough” is not getting a new designer purse every week…blech.
There are some people afflicted with what I call the “victim” gene. No matter how successful they become, who they marry, how beautiful they are (or try to be), or whether they have a 3-, 6-, or 9-figure account balance, they NEED something to complain about or an injustice to obsess about in their head. I think Bethanny’s victim gene is always in play and her control freak nature has her perpetually running from something none of us can escape: we will all get old and we will all die someday. The remedy? Find the joy in the moments.
Tango, I agree. I don’t think that Bethanny has the ‘I’m satisfied’ gene.
Seems like her type. Remember her boyfriend before Jason Hoppy who was always working, hardly ever around and would shut her down about talking about them moving in together on camera. He was alpha to her and would not take any of her shit. She seemed to feel much more at home with that kind of man. He was a Wall Street type set to make $100M bonus from his company, which then went to litigation. This billionaire is disgusting looking…I love that he’s on the phone while strolling with Bethenny in St. Tropez — that’s exactly what she seems to like…work work work.
I can’t believe you guys are all so harsh on Warren’s looks. I’d date him in a heartbeat. Are you all twenty somethings? To me his height is the only physical issue and a billion dollars could probably get me over that.
Seriously! No crap, he is not bad looking at all. Short men try harder anyway.
I’m in agreement with Tamara. When you get to certain age, looks are not everything. You want someone that you can have a smart conversation with, something in common. However, I do think Jason is cuter.
I agree. He looks alright to me. But I couldn’t get down with all the kinky stuff. I’m prudish.
This is my take on Jason and Bethenny. Jason’s need to please his parents is always going to a problem for any woman who get involved in a relationship with him. He is a good looking guy. I always wonder why it took him 38 years to get into a commented relationship. Until I seen the unhealthy control his mother has over him. No woman wants to go into a marriage completing with your mother. I still don’t get this Bethenny was mean to Jason parents thing. All I seen is her asking them repeatedly to allow her and Jason too get to know each better and made their own family traditions that didn’t always include them. Jason parents need to be in their every day life is one of the reason I think that marriage didn’t work. And Jason insure nature of a men should make more money then his wife made his hole attitude change towards Bethenny. I don’t know how these two got together in the first place. Bethenny is a highly ambitious person and Jason is very laid back and not that adventurous kind of guy. He doesn’t like boating. he doesn’t like flying. He;s scare of hikes. He was too whinny for me. They both came with their issues. I just don’t get that the failure of their marriage is all Bethenny’s issues, Jason has just as many issues as Bethenny.