Because both Vicki and Gretchen did not post blogs last week they both have extremely long ones this week. I covered the Lauri stuff from Vicki’s in this post. In Gretchen’s latest blog, the first four pages are talking about Vicki and her alleged adultery and pretty much that she can’t stand her. She seems very angry but other than that, it’s four pages of how much she doesn’t like Vicki. As I have said before in the fight for Tamra’s friendship, Vicki will win. The show will make is seem like this is because of Vicki’s devious trickery. It’s not. It is because Tamra and Gretchen both fought each other for a Bravo Wedding show and so far at least, Tamra is the only one getting her wedding paid for by Bravo. That is the source of their issues. The little peripheral issues with Vicki are mostly storyline drama fabricated by Bravo.
So let’s get to what happened in Mexico. Gretchen says:
Now onto other things! Obviously Heather and I were beyond upset when we were left behind at the restaurant, and even though Vicki was the leader of the pack Lydia and Tamra are grown woman and knew what they were doing. They should have said “no this is not cool” and turned around. I was beyond disappointed they didn’t. I was happy to see Lydia kept trying to call us at least, but bottom line they all stayed out till 2 am, and, as Tamra said, they were more interested in partying and getting drunk and ultimately proved that they didn’t give a damn about our feelings. I really don’t think I could have ever done that to a “friend,” especially ones that took time away from family and work to put the whole weekend together for me.
Vicki says:
I had mentioned to the girls that I wanted to take them to a fun bar. Gretchen and Heather both said they were up for it, and then through the evening they said they were tired. Lydia, Tamra and I waited over 20 minutes outside the restaurant for them, and we wanted to go to Andale’s. We relayed back to the hostess and to let them know we were going to walk there, and for them to grab a cab. It’s obvious from looking at the show that they never got that message, but that wasn’t our fault. They knew where we went, and if they really wanted to join us they could have. They knew where we went so I don’t understand how they acted like we “ditched” them.
Tamra, Lydia and I walked about 30 minutes to get to the bar, and along the way we bought those flashing rabbit ears. It was so much fun to wear those. I know it wasn’t another good hair night for me, as the humidity and my hair turn out to be brutal on me.
About those “rabbit ears” (which are really Mickey Mouse ears) Lydia bought them and she bought five, you can see the other two in her hands. Clearly, they were hoping the other two would catch up.
Gretchen moves on in her blog to talk about Tamra. She has a lot to say about her as well. None of it very nice. Gretchen it seems doesn’t even have to pretend that things work out for her friendship with Tamra anymore.
From Gretchen:
As hurt as I was and as much as I wanted to get on a plane and just come back home the next morning, I knew that is exactly what Vicki wanted me to do, and I wasn’t going to let her get the best of me. I knew I had to be the bigger person and just suck it up for the sake of being there for Tamra. Many people didn’t know the stress I had going on in my life at the time. Between Grayson being in the hospital and not waking up and right before the Mexico trip I had been in trial for three weeks dealing with the individual that was harassing me, I was exhausted — mentally, physically, and emotionally. But I still found energy to go shopping for bachelorette party and put together those fun gift bags because I really wanted it to be special for Tamra and fun for the girls. So needless to say, I felt like when she just ran off with Vicki (who just a week earlier Tamra texting me negative things about) it was a huge slap in the face — and actually a big wake up call to me. I realized that night that I cared more about Tamra than she cared about me.
I have to admit, Tamra confuses me. The next day when I addressed her about why she sabotages relationships with people who get close to her and actually care about her, she broke down and gave me a glimpse into why she is the way she is. I found myself feeling sad for her and allowing the prior nights activities to just be forgotten. She has this ability, even when she does you wrong, to make you believe she didn’t mean to do it. Unfortunately, someone like me who tends to wear their heart on their sleeve is always going to fall for it because I want to believe her and believe she had not ill intent. Most call it naive, but I like to consider it always looking for the good in someone.
Our conversation on the beach was nearly two hour long. We talked about so many things and I’m sad they couldn’t show it all. Tamra said some very complimentary things about me as a person and a friend, and it made me feel good that she actually recognizes those character traits about me. However, it’s conversations like these that no matter how hurt I am I feel like I get sucked back in to thinking she cares about the friendship the same way I do. In these moments she makes me feel like we are actually very close. For example when she says “I’ve never talked to any friend but you about these things before” etc., it confuses me, because if she feels safe enough to share these very intimate details with me it leads me to believe she really trusts me and considers me a very close friend.
Good Lord, Gretchen’s feelings were hurt by Lydia as well. It’s as if everyone is oh I dunno, bullying her! SMH Gretchen says:
I was also frustrated about what went down in the limo with Lydia. I felt it was very insensitive what she said with Heather and I sitting right there, and more so how defensive she got when we said that wasn’t very nice. I also feel like she kind of stirred the pot by asking if we were all good in the car, which brought the mood down and forced us to address something Heather and I were clearly trying to move past. Then once we stated our true feelings she claims we are sulking and making it uncomfortable? How does that make sense, she brought it up?
Gretchen’s entire theme is that Vicki “was going to try and ruin it as best she could.” Believe me, I have snipped A LOT from her long rant.
Vicki’s entire comment about the first evening was:
When we got back to the condo, I didn’t expect it to be a big deal. We all thought it was their choice not to go, so why would they be mad? Tamra and I had a blast, we laughed a lot and really feel like we made headway in our friendship.
One thing both ladies agree on was that the strippers were awful and scary and inappropriate. So there is that. I bet Phaedra would have loved them! They also appear to have had lots of fun that night that was not shown.
Meanwhile, Tamra is getting married to Eddie tomorrow. So um, YAY for gay marriage? Congrats, Tamra!
Gretchen needs to give Heather back her ass stick. This is beyond childish.
Gretchen sounds like a spoiled brat! Get over it!! On the show it was clear she and Heather did not want to go to the bar. They complained about being tired the entire evening. They should have told the other girls to go on. It was a bachelorette party after all. If that is all it takes to get her upset, then she obviously doesn’t know what true friendship is. Her rants make her look ridiculous, a 5th grader is more mature. Plus, she missed out on a beautiful wedding. A little jealous?????
I usually try to see the good in everything, but I totally believe that Heather and Gretchen were in the wrong for ruining the entire trip by continuously bringing up being “ditched” the previous night. I, like anyone else that watched this trip play out, heard Vicki mention Andalaes a million times. There was no question as to where they were going. Gretchen and Heather didn’t want to go out, for whatever reason, and used this stupid situation as an excuse to create drama. Tamra, Vicki and Lydia looked like they had a blast. I would have been whooping it up with them.
I think this is absolutely spot on.
On another blog earlier this week I saw a picture of Gretchen sitting on a toilet wearing a bikini tip and cowboy hat. There are other pics floating around in perpetuity on the net.
I wish it could be added to this update.
Not to mention the ones she has out there with a dildo up her butt. When she called Vicki a “slut whore”, I literally spit out my soft drink. Beyond the pot calling the kettle black!
The pictures you describe are from a mag or blog called TheDirty…..these pics were taken when Gretchen was dating( cough, cough, using) Jeff – the cancer guy.
Gretchen must think the public is stuipid or have no memory as she was busted over and over with the Jay guy that Tamra had given her so much crap about for 2 seasons. Jay and Gretchen had lots of lawsuits against each other-he won a few and she one one – I think she is a lying sleeze who has no right to ever judge anyone on their sexual relationships as it appears with all the pictures and internet chat – she is nothing but a used slut. She needs to get a brain and back way off Vickie. IMO
And THAT’S why we love the back stories. Can you expound on this anymore? I knew she had lawsuits with the one guy but not what they were over. Do you?
Here’s what: Gretchen and Heather knew where the other three went. Vicki must have said it a hundred times. They could have taken the (gasp ) mini van taxi on over there if they wanted to. Enough with it already. This show needs a recast. I saw some episodes of the first season today ( Jo DeLarosa, you dodged a major bullet, girl) and it was so much better than it is now.
To all those above AMEN,AMEN,and AMEN heather and tamera dislike alexa because
She is much more beautiful!!!
I hope Vicky isn’t in the cast next season. Once you can’t control your bladder you need to turn in your shot glass and let the next generation have their fun.
Fuck that. And just how does an older person partying prevent younger ones from doing so? I might go out drinking shots in my depends and with my cane and wont give a flying fuck who thinks I should be home waiting to die.
Agree! Never too old to have fun 🙂
Absolutely! I am 44 and hope to God I still have lots of days to dress up and go play! There is no expiration date on having fun!
Turn in your shot glass? love it! Wish I’d said that 🙂
I use to be a fan of Gretchen, in the beginning. I followed her on twitter, we tweeted back and she would DM me. I supported and liked her but I always did think she was really,… just not that into Jeff. I thought she lied about what she was doing on the side.
Then, when she and Tams made up, I tweeted Gretchen, “be careful, she has burned every other bridge.”
Gretchen quickly DM’d, “It’s not what it looks like.” and some other thing that had no relevance, unfollowed duffy1958 (me) and BLOCKED me! What?
I’m not the only one with this experience. If we were hateful, yes but our comments were pretty benign.
Yeah!!! The comments are in chronolgical order!
Bows. Not ears of any species. But bows like the ones Minnie wears so you an tell her from Mickey since she has no tits.
Actually, she has “mini” tits! 🙂
Yeah I dunno what I was thinking. Well I was thinking Minnie Mouse, but everyone kept calling them ears…
teecee thanks for clearing that up for me. I’ve looked at those ‘ears’ half a dozen times trying to see ‘ears’ but only saw bows! Your explanation is spot on and I think I need a nap or my head examined for looking at those bows so many times! LOL However, looking at the bows was better than commenting on these crazy women who look for drama where ever they are! So why do I still watch them??
They look like neither rabbit or mouse ears to me. They look like bows.
Yeah, duh, they bows like Minnie Mouse wears. I am brain dead. And today is a GOOD day. LOL.
Oops. I guess someone already said that about the bows.
Bravo re-aired the first season where Slade had money and got all pissy with Jo for going out partying with her girls. Can’t see where that is any worse than having your head slammed into a strippers crotch…or being a Gretchen sandwich between two Mexican strippers. Guess when you have no money you will accept wild behavior from your fiance.
Did he have money for real then? Or was he just acting?
He was rich back then, and worked in the mortgage business. All those mortgage companies unethically got rich approving loans to millions of people who could not afford them in the long run with unsecured rates. Yep Slade got rich and contributed to the problem that devastated the economy and millions of Americans. Karma is that he lost his and ended up in the poor house, and then under Gretchen’s skirt.
I too saw the earlier episodes of RHOC and it you can clearly see a difference. Everyone seemed a little more real than they do today. The way they looked, the way they acted….everything. It’s almost like the Jerry Springer show. It may have started out real but as soon as the first fight happened on stage then the producers felt they had to give the people “what they want” and it’s been down hill ever since. RHOC has hit rock bottom. It’s time to scrap this show and come up with something else.
AMEN!
Agreed- I had forgotten that they used to speak directly to the camera during the scene, instead of the ” talking head” they do now. And no staged reunion with the cast appearing in various tacky ballgowns! They all just got together around Vicki’s pool, without screaming and pushing.. Can we get those producers back again?
The first seasons are always good. These shows should all be one and done. There are plenty of people they could pick. One season, “low pay” (They usually start at 10K an episode for no more than 18 episodes and out. Then we wouldn’t have all these bravolebrities thinking they are rich and movie stars… and the stories would stay fresh.
We also have twitter amd other social media. It would be good for the network if they could bring in all new girls and pay less money, but viewers don’ t always like new people. I think most viewers like the characters and like to either love or hate them. I’m thinking Bravo will run the series for at least 10 seasons. It was great idea and it has been very profitable for the network. Nothing lasts forever.
All I can say is “wow”….get over it…Gretchen and Heather knew where they were going so instead of whining .. Just go over there…
“Um, yay for gay marriage”; sometimes you make me laugh out loud; this was one of those times!
I almost fell out of chair…too funny
Gretchen, get the stick out of your behind. You are 12 going on 14. Just get in the big fat limo and go to the bar Vicki mentioned 100 times. Or get on your bedazzled cell and text where are you, we want to come. Oh, but that’s what an adult would do, so never mind.