It’s another day the never-ending Jodi Arias trial. It seems each and every day there is something unexpected that happens. I am out of guesses about what will happen today. Yesterday the jury sent a note to the judge, details below.
Yesterday, the jury sent a handwritten note on an official question form to the judge. It said: “If the jury is unable to come to a unanimous decision @ this stage, do we notify the judge of this on the form (verdict) or do we just tell the judge her instruction on the bottom P. 10 on the final jury Instruction-Penalty phase?”
It was signed by juror No.18. (source Michael Kiefer) Go to link, it’s good.
Sounds like the one we call “The Artist” is the Foreman! See Info on #18 and other jurors here.
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how do we get bravo channel to do a Real Cellwives of Perryville show? It can star the Queens welcoming our lady of the pod..(cut to jodi) I must be famous i havent even processed in and a girl like donovon(sigh) says the girls here planned a special party for me yaaaayyyy!!
😉 Sounds good.
JA’s interviews the other night was payback for TA’s brother Steven saying he never wants to see his brother’s murderer again. JA will not go quietly. She’s pure evil and will continue taunting TA’s family.
I wish the jury knew what we all know about her behavior outside of their presence.
Although deliberations were set to start at 10 their time, the first jurors arrived at 9 am and they were all there by 9:50. Deliberations have begun ten minutes early.
Something started early in this trial? It’s a miracle! Let’s hope for a sentence!
That makes me think they are ready to fill out that verdict form. Memorial Day is looming and being through with her would make the jurors, and me, have a much better holiday.
I hope you are right!
Anyone else going to feel sad, empty and bored when this is actually all over? 🙂
I’m sure there’s some psychological name for the withdrawals we’ll all feel when there’s no more Jodi to talk about.
Although I definitely won’t miss Jane V-M screeching at me all day.
@popcornandvodka, I for one wont feel sad when this is over. Tired of JA manipulating (in various ways) all events to revolve around HER and taking responsibilty for NOTHING. I do believe she is sick AND evil. If this jury makes a decision today I think it will be LWOP. Will be surprised if they give her death. And like you I also wont miss JVM screeching all day. This woman practically “foams” at the mouth, she is so hyper. She needs to rest. lol
Yes, sick and evil is correct. I think sociopaths are the definition of what “evil” really is.
I’m against the death penalty for many reasons not related to this case, but Jodi is an example of one who absolutely deserves it. But I hope people realize that a LWOP verdict is not really a loss… she was found guilty, and as long as she never gets out, I think justice will have been served. Her life is going to be a lot different than she seems to believe it will be… there are not going to be any book of the month clubs where she’s going, haha. I don’t really see her surviving actual prison for very long. I say let her spend the rest of her “long life” just trying to live to the next day.
I have a funny feeling that I am gonna have to start watching one of those housewives shows just to keep in touch and have a great place to vent…………..any reccomendations? can’t watch them all not enough time
New Jersey is starting soon. Sunday, June 2nd I believe. Apologies in advance. Especially if you decide you don’t like Teresa, her fans are rabid and unrelenting. 🙂
I don’t recommend Married 2 Medicine, if you don’t want to be angry or disgusted…RHOC and RHOBH are ok…..RHONJ as TT said will have you kind of screaming at the tv if you are not a Teresa fan (craycray) RHOA is off for this season and so is BH, so maybe just for your nerves try watching Brad or the cooking shows (Top Chef) These are just suggestions.
New Jersey is a good one. They’re airing reruns now. Maybe you can pull more of them up On Demand to get caught up.
Love the photo of JA in shackles. One of the rules she gave the interviewers was that they could not show her in cuffs and leg irons. Looks like she is learning some new life lessons even befpre Perryville.
I cannot see why the hell she is allowed to make any rules!!! She is a convicted first degree murderer. Why is she calling any shots???? It’s infuriating.
She said essentially, these are the conditions for my interview. It’s normal. Well, I mean not that convicted killers holding press conferences is normal, but that having parameters in advance is…
Jurors have another question….
i agree with Popcorn and vodka after this we will need jodi detox and group therapy
Something is stirring. Wilmott is knocking on the locked courtroom door, all the Alexander family is in their little conference room.
I’m not seeing this as a statement that they are deadlocked like everyone on HLN is saying. It says “IF”. I think that’s huge. I think that shows that they are just double checking the rules and correct format. This jury has been through so much. I can’t imagine them not seeing it through to the end at this point. They clearly take it very, very seriously and I think they were just being thorough and seeking clarification.
I hadn’t seen the actual text of the note until this post TT, so thank you. All day yesterday HLN was saying how the jury was deadlocked. Im not convinced at all that they are. At least, I hope not :/
JA seems to think she is starring in her own movie, so doesn’t everybody know that “love never means having to say you’re sorry”, not even to the family of Travis Alexander.
Jury just had another question, TT, do you know what it was?
Maybe they just want to know if they can deliberate on Friday & or through the weekend.
There was a jury question. No one seems to know what it was. Both defense and prosecutor agreed to answer the question with no objection. Neither side seemed happy nor mad.
Jury had a question, but when the media was allowed in all that they heard was that both sides had agreed to the response to the question by the court. The question and the response were sealed.
Why would they seal them but make the other public?
This picture needs to be tweeted, copied, emailed, facebooked all over because its exactly what she doesn’t want. Pink socks – go Sheriff Joe.
Wasn’t that photo supplied by one of the news teams anyway ? (ABC ?) I didn’t think the Sheriff had anything to do with press release stuff. He just allowed her the space and time allowance ?
That was question number THREE. We know the other question was about how to deal with hung jury. So that is two questions that I know of. What makes this question three? What am I forgetting?
TT, I believe the first question involved possible parole. JM said it could occur after 25 years. I don’t know if he addressed time served. JM stated that Jodie wouldn’t likely ever be paroled, because of the brutality of her crime.
That’s correct! Thanks for reminding me. My brain is scrambled. 🙂
“brain scramble” …welcome to my world! In my one little paragraph above, I meant to say JW, not JM, addressed Jodi not likely to ever be paroled.
Beth Karas just said question 1 was in another phase of the trial. Questions 2 and 3 were during this penalty phase. I can’t remember question 1.
We’re going to see a verdict pretty soon. They are working together and I believe they will reach a concensus soon. It could have to do with the vast amount of paperwork that must have to be done. Justice be a lady today.
I have confidence also Peach… I hope we’re right.
peach & smitsa……..just hope it’s the verdict most of us are hoping to hear!
Hard to get a read on JM or JA expressions. If forced to make a guess I would say JM was more positive than JA. I just watched it again, just for reactions and JM did not seem too pleased. Neither side showed much obvious emotion.
How would we know what JA thought? She has NO feelings aside from herself. In her interviews she keeps talking about getting out and doing more good again. And, just think, in 25 years the parole board will be made up of people like us so I don’t see her getting help from them.
Peachteachr – It hard to read her EXCEPT when she’s duped us all. If there was indication the jury was leaning her way – I’m sure we’d see her do her… version of the “Hokey Pokey.” (eee!) Sorry for that visual. (again.)
You’re dating yourself Just, that is a funny visual. The HoKey Pokey was my favorite dance.
If Jodi receives life with the possibility of parole, my heart goes out to the Alexander family having to attend any parole hearing(s) in the future, just in order to try and keep Jodi imprisoned. It wouldn’t ever end for them. Sooooo hope that doesn’t happen.
kc………I truly can’t imagine in my wildest dreams that Judge Stephens would ever give her the possibility of parole. If she did, there would be such a backlash that could affect her career for years to come.
Nurmi seemed to sure cut out fast. I think that’s the first ? sadness in Juan’s eyes I saw (slow-mo FF) when he turned to look at the family. I think Wilmott is completely “all in” w/ Arias. Both of her hands were rapid and spread open back and forth rapidly like putting eggs in one basket – explaning – while Jodi held intense concentration to those explanations. I need a nap – then I know the jury will come out. ? Would it be worse if the DP jurors give into the Life jurors ?
the jury just decides life or death. The judge decides with or without parole. How could willmott tell the jury yesterday that there was nothing that allowed parole? That would be a LIE wouldnt it?
saw interview clip where jodi was asked Travis last words..she said idle chit-chat. Thats BS!! Travis last words were..NOOO. STOP. DONT. AAAHHHGURGLE GURGLE GURGLE
I know…that was chilling! I mean idle chit chat and he f;ies into a rage over a camera?? The she said a lot happened in those few minutes…no it was 62 seconds between the ceiling pic and him being dragged.
Anyone want to play a game?
How about a round of what NOT to do if you are an evil egotistical Murderess with an unhealthy level of jealous rage that controls you to the point of committing overkill on a guy who just wants a decent normal moral woman instead of one of Satan’s favorite jackel-born trick tramp Putafaces. Puta means prostitute in Spanish.
Oh yeah let’s say that you left irrefutable DNA evidence and photos of yourself at the time of the crime at the scene of the crime.
I’ll go first. I sure as f&ck would NOT double dog dare a jury to convict me of murder one on a nationally taped media show comptemporaniously with making up the stupidest most nonsensical lie of how someone else did it.
Your turn…
I would NOT blame the whole thing on ninjas. Ninjas don’t even use guns. Obviously pirates would have been the way to go. Pirates use swords AND pistols, so that would have been totally more believable. AAAARRRRRR.
At 64, my mind will not allow me to think of being a murderess. I do kill insects that get in my house but even then there is not any happiness about being a killer. I would probably have confessed immediately to Det. Flores and begged for forgiveness and confessed my great shame.
My dark thought is………I would NOT have had a picture taken of 2 of my 3 “wonderous” holes for all the world to see! I then would NOT have said to Det. Flores, “Are you sure the picture is of me?”………..But that’s just me!
Omg. Why do I find your answer so funny. Did you mean it to be?
Bobbi – What gets me in that part of the video… ” PIG TAILS ???” squeeks Jodi !
Rrrrrr ! Then she repeats in a whisper outloud, breathy-like…25 !! Goosebumps !
I would not blame the victim I butchered and nearly decapitated every chance…especially wouldn’t say I saw him pleasuring himself to little boy pics on computer…no wait, paper pictures (I get confused)
I would not openly call my sister dumb and accuse my parents of abusing me. Generally, when all else fails, your family will speak up for you.
Dropping back in – waiting for a question we can not hear. OK – so much for that. Not to be provactive – but I was floored when I heard Vinne say this morning on In Sessions (too ?) Technically ~ Jodi has not yet been declared a Convicted Felon for PreM. Murder in the first – TILL the penalty phase is complete…! So there goes my “she’s been convicted” arguments. And Jodi can actually change her stragegy for any new jury arguements should this jury be dismissed. ~ This keeps up ($) I wont have cable TV to watch anything on.
If Vinnie said that, he is misinformed. She is convicted but unsentenced. She has already had her accommodations changed in Estrella on that basis to the locked down ward.
I had a feeling you’d respond. That’s what I thought – but I even think he said it on Raising Amer. too. Actually – I’m more overdosed on HLN than anything. I do not usually watch this station. We were pulled over and forced to park here. thnx
Okay, this is purely conjecture on my part. Before I say this, I want to mention that I have a bit of a hearing problem. I can hear fine, but if there is a lot of background noise I often have trouble blocking out the extraneous noise. I compensate for this with some lip reading. I am NOT a lip reader per se, but I do watch the speakers lips in places where other conversations are going on all around me.
I have had a lot of trouble reading Jodi’s in this case. But just now, I thought I was able to. Again CONJECTURE.
That said, it seemed to me like in the conversation with Jodi and Wilmott, it seemed like Jodi said, “If the jury is hung, don’t they let me have to plea out?” Wilmott responds, Jodi appeared TO ME to say “That’s bullshit” I have now forgotten the third thing she said. I backed up but they don’t show all the conversations she was having with Wilmott. In the first one she asked her, “Don’t they have to let me?” Then the judge does her thing and they go back to talking, Jodi says she understands. Then again asks “don’t they have to let me?” It seems to me like Wilmott was going over the possibilities of what will happen if the jury is hung.
Also after reviewing the tape many times, Juan does not look like a happy camper.
I’m thinking they are hung.
I rewound my DVD and she is definitely saying ” Don’t they have too?” I can’t make out anything else.
Rewound my D V R…sorry…
Help us out TT. I just read that juror # 3 was the one who wrote the question. What’s your take on juror # 3? Also, I thought everything went through the foreman.
I’ll have to look here for info myself. http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2013/04/13/jodi-arias-trial-juror-descriptions/ I refer to it often. The questions can be signed by EITHER the foreperson or the one asking the question. That is why I said I cant be 100% on #18 being foreman.
What is your source for #3 asking the question? I would assume if the question is sealed so is the identity of the inquiring juror.
I heard Beth Karas say that they have asked 3 questions (Judge called it question 3). Beth Karas said she believes the first question went to the guilt phase and questions 2 & 3 went to the State. What that means..I don’t know. JM looked the same as he always does but your lip reading scares me.
For 2 cents – I stated before I got a maternal “fix” vibe – either way but mostly for Life. That is if the info it’s #3 at all.
They said it was question #3; not juror #3.
Ah bet that is it Beverly. If the question is sealed I could not imagine it being attributed to a particular juror.
Oh, gosh. Forgive me. LOL I truly am hard of hearing. My daughter told me 3 years ago to get a hearing aid. I told her I was too young. She said they give according to need not age. Reared a bright adult, didn’t I?
Reply to you showed up elsewhere. But judge said question #3 not juror #3.
I could check it to – but honestly, I’ve tried it and I suck at it. Conjecture of course, if that was JA’s response – who’s not explaining these steps to her ? So is she really in control ? Too bad she can’t blog and find out the way we do.
It’s lunchtime. Reports were that most if not all jurors were carrying in lunch today. When the jury goes to lunch, court personnel tell the media so they can break for lunch. This has not happened so it looks like they jury will work through lunch. Thus the media is afraid to leave for lunch themselves.
Forgot to say above that JVM said that 5 jurors ate in the cafeteria and I have read that some bring their own food. I have no idea how this jury works but b/c my little town is so small and I only lived a few houses up from the courthouse, I always walked home for lunch. HLN tried to make like some big split then they said what I posted above.
Nap time with the TV on and the remote in my hand…I’m programed to jump now.
Even though the jurors do not know about JA’s antics and interviews, Judge Stephens certainly does. If push comes to shove, and it’s up to the judge to decide LWOP or LWP after all other avenues have been exhausted, I would hope that Judge Stephens gives her LWOP, because she has seen and heard it all.
Absodamnlutely!
ok this is really hard to figure! Juan didn’t look particularly happy while they were in the courtroom-but neither did Nurmi. Wilmot was so animated talking to Jodi that I got the feeling that she was talking as fast as she could to prevent Jodi from flipping out due to the content of the juror question.
Now Jinkasaurus is saying the court officers are telling the media probably has an hour to get lunch, but after that time, they should probably send someone to bring lunch back for them! Does that mean that there will be a verdict in about an hour..???
Good minds think alike. I think it’s either LWOP or death. Better go throw the ball for Inky and get myself back in the house today. So beautiful here today. Maybe 85 with a dry breeze and no humidity. Justice, justice, justice.
HLN just said that the bailiff said you don’t want to be gone longer than an hour. After that you may want to send someone to get you a snack or coke. Doesn’t THIS jury go to lunch before giving their verdict???
Okay, we know the attys and the defendant know the question. I believe that the FAMILY of Travis would be allowed to be told. So they likely know. Chris Hughes is with the family. He tweeted this.
Chris Hughes @cshughes 1h
We don’t know what the jury question is, but I feel everything is fine.
While he specifically says “we don’t know the question” I don’t believe him and I’m optimistic about the second half of his tweet.
This is it. If Chris Hughes is OK, then so am I.
If JA’s family is at court, then we know it’s on. They were not there yesterday nor today. So we wait. Justice be a lady tonight.
Sounded like NG……..BOMBSHELL TONITE!………Scared the poop out of me! LOL
My above comment was in reply to a post by JustUsForAll. Not sure why it was posted here – a little mix-up, I guess!
Bobbie, your comment made me have a belly laugh! I too have nearly jumped out of my seat. Thanks for the laugh. =)
Sorry, this did not post where it was supposed to. It was a comment that Bobbie made about NG yelling. So funny!
Hi Deej……..found your post…….glad I gave you a good laugh…..we could all use one today!
honestly I think if I have to see that middle aged couple discussing Cheerios and going to the gym one more time-followed by the toddler eating Cheerios off the high chair table-I will go INSANE!!!!!! HLN you’re KILLING me
Or the “shape wear”, or the guy going to New Zealand, and all the ambulance chasing law firms….Oh, and garden hoses!
Ready to wrap that garden hose around Henry Winkler and his reverse mortgage (like he needs one…).
Damn I just thought the same thing!
Cammierari I have been thinking the same thing! Insanity! I change the channel every time the 4 min. Of commercials come on. In fact I trytojustwatch thererunsintheevening shows because they show fewer commercials.
And they’ve finally set a date NG’s Inside the Jail episode that was “coming soon.” And it is June 5, practically 2 weeks from now! I think I’ll be taking a NG break by then!
No doubt – June 4th for Travis was booked, Marymac.
#nomnom
LOL
Thank GOD they stopped playing that idiotic check-out-a-doctor commercial with the baby-talking mother who makes me want to punch her fucking lights out. “But we want a GIRL doctor, riiiiiiiiyeet?”
Cammie, I totally agree. I’ve now been singing, “the one and only fuckyouoooohs!”
Ok – I’m embarrassed. Rewound my DVR – Vinnie just yelled it out loud in reference to the guilt phase. @ jury clock 10:39:16. I just sprung up like a robot. No more deep day naps for me. 🙁
Now we’re all in HLN Hell with endless loops of Jodi Arias playing over and over and… !! OMG !! – it’s NOT hell – it’s real. Maybe that’s what they mean when they say making people loopy. – now my migraine’s back.
We’re acting like any of this is even real to JA. To her this is just the dress rehearsal for her trial when she has the appeal. Y’all know she doesn’t think this is happening to a nice girl like her.
FYI – as a (useless) point of reference. On TT the verdict was announced @ approx. 4:30pm EST – [AZ 1:30 PM] – The jury was out 15 hours. Holiday week end, folks !
Glad you posted this. My husband asked earlier this afternoon how long the jury stayed out for the verdict!
So you think no verdict today? And no possibility the jury will return tomorrow?
I am so lost about what is going on today with the jury. G’kids had skits at school and while I was out decided I should run a few errands. I ran into a friend and had lunch with her. Can you believe she barely knows anything about this trial??? What’s up with that? My library books are late and I have spent so much time on the computer lately that I haven’t read all of them. I’m going to read comments now. Guess I should start at the bottom and read up to understand what has happened throughout the day in some sort of order, right?
Is anybody else experiencing sweaty palms, a pounding heart or a feeling of impending doom (hung jury)? This verdict watch is wreaking havoc with my anxiety –
maybe I need a little shot of something!
Bobbi, no, not at all. I’m highly interested in this case and the folks involved but take no personal stock in it.
Hear, hear. I was interested in whether she would get murder 1 with premeditation which I believe is the proper verdict in her case and so I am fine with whatever her sentence is as long as it is appropriate to that verdict.
I am a tad alarmed at how vengeful some folks have turned. Some of the comments have given me pause especially after we learned a bit more about the appalling conditions at Perryville. As Gandhi said, “an eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind”.
Jesus said, (I’m paraphrasing) ‘If you don’t own a sword, sell your cloak and go and buy one.’ Since it is JA we are speaking of, I want to hang with some of you sword folks.
Jesus also said put your sword back in place, because those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Even Vengeful GOD of the OT said something about turning swords into ploughshares….
The bible and fortune cookies can both be used to validate any belief. And it has been for centuries. People who “believe in the Bible” do so by picking a choosing verses and using those selected to support a presupposed belief.
TT, I actually use the whole book. I think Jesus is at least as much of an authority as Ghandi. I don’t want to parse out scriptures nor quotes from part of something Ghandi said one day. This was to defend my wish for JA to get the death penalty. I hope it can be used as just a comment cause you know I’m no flamethrower.
Be both are entitled to our opinions on the case. This does not affect my adoration of you at all. I was just saying the Bible can be used to support or revile almost anything in small exerpts. 🙂 I was raised Southern Baptist and used to read the Bible during the more uninteresting sermons as it was allowed by the parents who would not have allowed me to read Lady Chatterly’s Lover in the same situation. 🙂 I like to read.
Bobbi – Check posts below. ~ There’s nothing to do but wait. It’s apparent the jurors are working at it. Tough decision…’cause it’s the real deal. Deep breaths and fresh air, too.
No fresh air – it’s pouring rain……..guess I’ll have to find a paper bag to breathe into!
It’s not your first “verdict watch” or final action is it ? 🙂 My Mom & I argued fervently over C. Anthony trial – It was my 1st time reading internet info + TV (not blogging) and she with her TV. ~ We always agreed about trials – but NO not this time… she ended up right (of course) (overcharged, smell test evidence, and jury not from crazy Orlando)…anyway since I lost Mom – I have mixed feelings about it – we didn’t speak to each other after the verdict for 3 or 4 days. (we laughed about later, though)
So deeply sorry for your loss, JustUs. Just imagine how this trial would have been somthing special for y’all and how excited she always… smart too from the sound of things.
Thanks Peachteachr – that means alot to me. This whole trial – Kept asking myself what she would have thought. Oddly, she probably would have told me they’ll never give JA the DP. (Right again?) As her only daughter, I helped her live 8 more yrs. She had a real rough go of it when we were kids. (50’s-60’s) She was beautiful, a amazing artist, with a great modern mind. Had a deep values and morals made of steel. ~ My best friend.
BTW, I have known all along. And YES he is a psychopath. And he is watching your every move.
I believe we all feel that knot in our heart and that lump in our throat, I just can not justify the time the jury is taking, it is torture for all(the Alexander family and friends) they knew it was a dp case, so Jody wants to live, she has a lot of things she wants to do, and her poor family ( there not even close) will be hurt—-boo hoo—whats taking so long..what’s there to think about—how about Travis wanted to live, he had things he wanted to do. Duh–is the jury taking time cause the court made them wait soooo many times ?
Maybe something here can give you some insight on what is “taking so long” http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com/2013/04/27/a-look-inside-an-arizona-jury-room-during-a-death-penalty-deliberation/#more-6088
TT – Ashley Merchant is on HLN with Ryan.
The jury I worked on was offered some evidence on the table in the jury room, and we could ask for other pieces of evidence if needed. A tape was played in court but the live witness from the tape testified differently. We asked for the tape; the judge said no. I wrote back that the photos were evidence and we needed to hear the tape again, all of this was in writing. After 30 minutes, we heard the tape. I later learned that both sets of lawyers threw down in court arguing about it. This may be like the jury questions that Judge Stephens is getting and she is sealing them so there are no leaks of how they are leaning.
Very interesting peachteacher. I hope that’s it instead of, “we are still hung”..
Tweeters are saying Steven Alexander and court reporter just came back. Others, including head of security, heading in.
I also just read a tweet, whatever they are, from a reporter on my live stream site that says that the mitigation specialist has arrived.
Prison sandals are so damn FUGLY. I mean, look at JA looking like a damn cat/dog in her sweet sweater/unmatching prison bottoms. PINK socks? Who cares if she lives or dies, someone get this ho a “killer” stylist…you know she already requested one for the appeals process!! What a crazy pants she is. Rant is now over, there is nothing going on, so that’s all I got, y’all! 😛
“killer” stylist……………..very funny!
All inmates in Maricopa wear pink socks and underwear…men and women.
Another jury question according to tweets broadcast on live trial stream.
Looks like if anything it is another question. The court report is there, the family is in their little inner sanctum rule. The security came out and told the media it is nothing, but the media does not believe them. Looks like perhaps a closed hearing about something could be happening. They may be asking if they can come in tomorrow.
I’m willing to bank on the question being “can we come in tomorrow. We think we can get resolution with a little more time…”
Or if they can stay later tonight…I think they might be near a verdict.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that they are going to adjourn for the day, take the next 4 days to sort through everything individually, and reconvene on Tues.
hope you’re right TT!!
You have this picture! You are now my favorite blogger – even favorite of all time! Jodi in all of her delusional glory. I mean shackles and all..ha, ha, ha…… Image this little nothing making demands as if she is someone important. Of all the nerve. Someone in his family should print this picture and send it to her. Wouldn’t mind being a fly on the wall when she goes bonkers, after she realizes she’s nothing and she certainly isn’t calling ANY shots and that her demands will ALWAYS go unanswered. Kudos and two thumbs up to the photographer that got this picture.
The Juan has arrived! Also Baliff has asked for media to leave seating FOR THE ARIAS FAMILY. They have not been there in two days, did not attend the last question, and so that is interesting.
Ashleigh just made a good point. It could very well be that the one hold out is saying I just can’t bring myself to sign off on death and the rest of them are so pissed that that juror must have lied during jury selection & so they are now asking the judge what the hell to do with this -suddenly – NOT death qualified juror. Maybe throw that juror off for perjury.
OM Goodness…I’m feeling a verdict of life. Deputies are there to probably keep the Alexander family from killing her ass. If this is anything other than what they want and what they feel will help them heal – my prayers and sympathies for them….
I think I agree with you, Patricia. Too many differences from last “question” this morning i.e. clearing cane lady et al shanty town from right outside courthouse doors, double security in courtroom, Arias family summoned. Hmmmm…
Here’s another possible piece of symbolism that this means a verdict… 13 hours isn’t that just about how long JA was at Travis’ house 4 am to time of death 5:30 pm?
Question or potential verdict? Interesting. I just hope it’s not “we’re hung crap” I personally cannot see anything redeeming about Jodi. If some of them can, fine. But, I cannot and I’d have no problem sentencing her accordingly. Besides, her mitigation factors did not trump the aggravating factors.
So, there’s no question to me. However, to each her own…..I don’t fault them for whatever they decide b/c with M1 she’s cooked either way…. I just hope this is a lesson for potential jurors — not to say they can put someone to death if they are not 100 percent sure – or if they are the more softer or weaker types….
That would be very discouraging.
I agree Preacher. Brace yourselves folks. Life or hung jury – at least that’s what I think. I doubt all of this dust up is over a simple question. We shall soon see. My sympathies with his family b/c they are clearly haunted and broken by all of this.
Lots of extra security going into courtroom. Odd for a question. In other news if there is no verdict, the jurors will not deliberate again until WEDNESDAY.
Could the Judge seal the announcement “We have a Verdict” since we are not actually hearing the phrase ? Ms. Merchant just said, it could be a no verdict.
Ryan just reported extra security is coming in. That’s all I’m saying. Juan was smiling…!
Just occured to me…even if Travis’ Killer gets LWOP as opposed to DP, while she will initially think “I won, I convinced the jury afterall, beat Juan Martinez” etc…that feeling will melt away once she gets to prison and settles in to her new home for the next 50 years (hopefully). I guess I am feeling more peace with this outcome and ultimately what it really means for Travis’ Killer, she just doesn’t get it and that’s her problem.
Right, as long as there’s no way for her to get out, there is no loss here. She’s going to be living a terrible life that we cannot even imagine, for many years, no matter what verdict comes in. Life in prison, for Jodi Arias, is NOT going to be a win.
I agree Popcorn and Sabrina. I’m good that she’s been convicted on M1. I was anxious over that weeks ago. Now, I’m good b/c no matter what, like I said a few minutes ago, she’s: done, cooked and fried. I just hope his family can get come to terms with a life verdict. I know they want death and understandably so, I just hope they can at some point attain peace regardless of the verdict of life or death.
ah… someone has reached enlightenment! I hope all of you will “be at peace” soon.
You are so funny and quite correct! In the end Travis’ Killer is there and we are here, with our freedom and sane thoughts.
No peace for the weary, Tamara.
Jodi already lost, remember her face after conviction and her tears 20 minutes later in her interview?She thought her 18 days of chatting on the witness stand would clear her.
Anxiety, Mike says – this better not be HLN frenzy again.
The security has been downplaying what is going on. Perhaps to get everyone here before the hysterical lynch mob forms outside. They are supposed to give media an hour alert on a verdict. That is a courtesy though and not a requirement and in this case, the lack of alert could be a crowd control measure.
I’m a little concerned that this may be a hung jury verdict. It’s obviously not a question, but they really should be calling “Verdict!” if that’s what it is. For me, a hung jury is the great loss – especially for Travis’s family. Even the thought of what this would cost the state of Arizona, all for that waste of human flesh, makes me sick. Good grief, if you can’t agree on death just give her LWOP, don’t put everyone through all this again. Well, those are my thoughts.
I haven’t seen Jane’s bon mots, today. Was she going out of town?
Wasn’t Jane around earlier ? I thought so. She was over at previous posts.
Ici, Peach! Ca va? (Not out of town, just out of my mind re: a post on yesterday’s thread). But, here we go!!! JVM is scurreeeeeaming! The breathless coverage has begun… Mike Gallinos just said, “Something big is going down… ” O man, & I used to have a soft spot for ol’ Mike.
🙂 Was it that post from the reformer on yesterday’s site That made me feel sad not for anyone but for the evil that makes inhumane humans. Ooops, they are saying JA is crying and very upset.
Yeah, but what if she’s are tears of joy? I’m so confused. I….
Lol Jane. I hope Jane is on over Nancy…. Nancy is a drag. Jane at least has a little goofiness in her that I like. Brace yourself: BOMBSHELL TONIGHT!!!….
TT – Your site just crashed on me…. 1st time.
Of it’s time for Jane Velez Mitchell…bless her heart, I hope she gets to be the one to be on when it’s the verdict.
“OH it’s time” I meant. Ruh roh, Jane’s already getting me spastic. ..
Seal is Up !! To the tube.
The Arias Family has been visiting THE GRAND FUCKING CANYON.
Is that true????? If so, WOW.
Wow, guess they are making good time of their time in Phoenix while their daughter/sister is awaiting sentencing…makes sense. This is the family she pleaded to spare her life for?
But of they have…probably went to retrieve the gun she used so they can sell it after sentencing on the infamous murderer black market on the down low.
It’s not like they have a daughter waiting to find out if she gets death row or something…
My guess is a juror has “taken” ill and has asked to be replaced. Just a guess…
The only source of Jodi being upset and crying and such is HLN. I have a twitter list with a dozen or so journalists sitting in there and they are not reporting any unusual situation with Jodi. This is HLN drama. She would not know a verdict in advance.
She didn’t look she had been crying
I think they knew it was probably a hung jury because of the strange way it was being processed. If you watch wilmott you can see her look really puzzled when they start to read the “no verdict”. It almost sounds like a verdict because they start out by saying “we have reached a verdict”. Then when it continues with “of no unanimous verdict” wilmott gets a smile. They knew.
HLN just said that Jodi is “full-on” crying and blowing her nose. Waiting for the Arias. NOW
NG is saying that JA is full on crying now and her lawyers are comforting her.
fuck
What a waste of time. Now they get to all go out and watch all the interviews and all the shit they missed out on. Man Juan was “red faced”. If they can’t agree on death she should just automatically get LWOP
Watching this from the UK and once again the American justice system has failed a victim When will your country ever learn wasn’t Oj and Casey Anthony sufficient travesties Now this jury has managed to add poor Travis and his family to the list. Shame on you!
HEY UK, You don’t HAVE THE FUCKING DEATH PENALTY. SO how about you sit down and shut the fuck up. Our system worked EXACTLY as it is meant to. The DP is not doled out unless 12 impartial jurors AGREE. “Poor Travis’s Family” will get LWOP in anycase HERE which would not happen EITHER IN THE UK so Piss OFF!
TT, you go girl! I wanted to say something like that. Hell, they can’t even own weapons over there. Wonder what you think will happen to the murders who decapitated one of your soldiers yesterday on a downtown street, Lize?
So what is your highest level of justice for the perpetrators of this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22644857 in YOUR country you insufferable cunt? A warm bed and three servings of spotted dick a day? FUCK OFF.
BTW, UK (i have to confess that this is actually directed at Piers Morgan who professes to be a representative of the UK), if some motherfuckers hit my neighbor with a car and proceeded to cut him up with knives, they would have been shot on sight here! Everyone would have pulled out their concealed and carry weapons and made those bastards little red splats on the sidewalk. Here, we support our second amendment rights, just as we do our first amendment rights. What happened there? what a statement for Right to Bear Arms was just made in your lovely (and haughty) UK?
TT and docwall, thank you soooo very much for throwing the British soldier massacre up in the face of this self righteous UK poster. I was appalled & thoroughly sickened by this vicious act of barbarism.
Last night I reached my saturation point. Not only by the brutality of the act itself, but by the nonchalance of bystanders, probably during, but most certainly immediately following this mutalation. One woman, pushing a cart, passed the bloodied, knife & clever holding murderer, without so much as a grimace on her face. Nothing. Totally devoid of any emotion. How can it be that we’ve come to this?
So, I guess I appreciate, or at least understand, how upset some are with this non verdict. At least there is some real emotion within the commenters here. That’s better than the alternative, don’t you think?
I do thank the jurors for their many sacrifices. If it had been me answering that jury summons, I would have checked off the box about being of sound mind & good moral character 🙂
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
The judge is emotional.
I’ve been recuperating after the no verdict!!
I was shocked to hear the judge’s voice crack. But, Beth Karas said one of the jurors in the back row started to cry and I noticed JA touch JW’s arm and motion with her head towards the jury and say something. That’s when I think the judge got emotional!
HUNG JURY!!!
Let the juror interviews begin
NOT EVEN LIFE – FUCK TOO ! Never heard a judge start crying.
That judge is mad.
UGH.
I’m absolutely not buying Jodi’s crocodile tears, the worst thing in the world for her is to have her time in the spotlight ended. Now she’s got months to go with TV time, fresh clothes for court, and even possible interviews. She has no reason to be upset. My heart breaks for everyone else involved.
Sheriff Joe Arpiao twitted no more interviews for JA. I wonder if he will stick to that now.
I mean really??! I wanna know how many for and how many against! Why the hell is Jodi crying, then?!?
Jodi cries for herself. She’s crying in joy.
Exactly right.
I agree, and I also think the poor jury people just ran outta gas. Maybe there was someone on there who felt just as strongly (one way or the other) and would not budge.
JA is just so freaking weird!! She should have cried her eyes out when convicted of first degree premeditated murder but she didn’t. She gets a hung jury for the penalty phase and she cries!! Well, heck, in her shoe I might have cried then, too.
What a sad day. That jury failed us.
Tango, remember they did not fail……..got first degree and agravating……..did best they could on penalty….but at least they seemed to have stayed true…(that is, of course, unless there was someone one there in the DP IS WRONG camp-who jeopardized this, but i think i doubt this.) remember casey anthony and we should be happy right now……whatever the future brings (save effective appeal on conviction)
Tango, that’s exactly how I feel…that the jury failed the Alexanders and us!!
God – I guess butchering a man and a confession and bogus defense plus a Murder 1 Premeditated conviction is just too damn hard to penalize.
justus, it’s a little scary to think about, isn’t it? imagine what a fuckup criminal/defendant she is/was, and STILL, they couldn’t figure DP??
Many of the jurors very distraught and crying and mouthing “I am sorry” to the Alexanders . Three female Jurors crying.
Wait until they find out how she’s been playing them…
Yes, and I hate to be this way – but I hope the ones that didn’t agree on the DP have nightmares about what she did to Travis for the rest of their lives. It’s only fair, they’ve sentenced the victims family to more pain – SHAME ON THEM!
I agree. Also…..what will they think when they find out the defense att.so much as called them liars.
Did anybody notice that Jodi “seemed” to be crying (probably relief in her mind) and JW had very ‘slight faint’ smile when non verdict was announced? Now JVM NG and co. are going nuts. Well the repeat of this will be in July.
I am going to guess that new jury won’t have any problem handing down the death penalty.
In the meantime, toss JA’s sorry ass back into prison to wait it out.
I hate this case.
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My heart goes out to the jury. The gave it their all. I also think that Stephens will let Nurmi and Wilmott off the case as well. I hope we get the split soon.
What a huge FU to the Alexanders and to Travis. I’m in shock.
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I agree kt. I hope the Queens of Perryville stay up late to welcome her.
Back in my corporate days, I had to accompany another Sales Rep to a Prison in Florida. You have no idea how scary it is to walk through there with people yelling and screaming out at you, reaching out at you as you walk by. I was so shaken when I left there after only an hour. Think of the cell block area where she will be housed….. The hair on my arms is standing up….
It won’t be like that for her for another 3-5 years after she gets there. Maybe walking in if they walk her by a yard. But she will be in a death row ready cell as is EVERYONE who goes in until parceled out. Most stay there a few days (on non violent charges and short stays) Jodi’s sentence will keep her there for 3-5 years before she can earn a lower level of security. Even then, it’s a hellhole at even the kindest levels she will never reach.
It seems clear that Stephens will give natural life. Also, listening to local PHX news on Acentral feed and they say there is no chance for parole even if she got the option.
Maybe JA is crying cause she has to go to Perryville tonight. I read that they have been getting ready for JA. Changed out Wendy Ariano’s(sp) door and took away the bottom half of her door which had been clear and replaced it with something she can’t see through. The fb post said that JA’s cell has been covered with paper. This is the fb page of a woman from Germany, last name Milke, who killed her son and is on death row.
Really, Peach, she goes to Perryville, straight away, pending re-trial?
… Judge choked up. One juror sobbing outright. Others tearing, mouthing, “I’m sorry.” Juan grim. Family devastated. How are they to pick up and go on?
A 1st degree premeditated, felonious, aggravated murder conviction. Two viable sentencing options. No verdict?
Astounding.
The woman listed above is on death row and has a fb page to get her a new trial. One of her visitors posted the info on that page. I don’t know, but since her next hearing is a month away and will probably be very legalistic and not very long. So I must assume that the county will tell the state to take her. That will be the most hope I have for now. This is why she did all those interviews the other night. She KNEW that she wouldn’t have another chance.
Happy smug smile on Willmott’s face! Ugh!
I saw her smile at her evil client…I will NEVER understand her middle school antics with the thing from yreka.
Wilmott smiled at Jodi when the nonverdict was read. It’s a win for the defense for now. From their perspective they have done their job and saved her life for now.
Is there any footage of the judge adressing the jury after the non-verdict-verdict?? I can’t wait for jury interviews. What will their reaction be to all the goings on they weren’t privy too?!
No that is a very solemn matter in this case. Judge Stephens was choking up when speaking to the jury. She is upset that sentencing ended in mistrial. This jury deserves our respect for giving up nearly half a year of their life and giving it all they had.
I think the jury worked very hard, and took their duty seriously. I bet it will be maddening for them to discover JA did not take it as seriously as they.
And that she told reporter she felt betrayed by the jury.
I think she’s crying because she’s relieved at the “no verdict”. Does she stay at jail. I’m not sure she goes to prison until sentenced. I hope she goes to prison. Does anyone know for sure?
I’m guessing she was crying b/c she finally realized no one bought her lies. And, she probably thought b/c of that, her behind was as good as fried.
My understanding is that she stays in Estrella. HOWEVER since she is convicted of M1 and goes to Perryville regardless and Joe is fed up with her, she may be eligible to be transferred. The thing is, because the retrial deal has to go forward in PHX they will most likely keep her on lockdown in Estrella because during trial she would need to be near the courtroom.
ABC News just stated “Life in Prison Unless New Jury Rules Otherwise”. I hope this means she is going to Perryville NOW, until court resumes in July. She needs to begin her sentence NOW. And that would explain her tears.
I think that’s good enough for now. That has to def be why JA was crying…Perryville! Hell yea jury press conference! So it’s just a mistrial of the penalty phase. How will the penalty retrial play out? Will the new jury watch footage of the trial or what?
She may be upset because she has shot her mouth off, Karma – Jodi – Karma. It’s going to bite her in the butt before it’s all said and done.
Really? So she is going to the big house now?
Okay, deep breaths. Here is what happens now. First the judge goes back to thank the jury for their tireless service over the last five months. Then the attys can debrief the jury on things like the split and the issues. Then they can speak to the media once released or they can go home and shower and cry before talking to media later. We might hear from them tonight or they may need some time to decompress.
As for what happens next, it is not up to Juan, it is up to the County ATTY, that is his boss, and he takes marching orders from the victims family for the most part. If the family wants to try to get another jury the CA will usually abide by their wishes. It will likely take six months to even find another location and jury…
Why are they coming back on July 18?
Probably to start the process of finding another jury. Sighhh.
JA is probably upset because the judge will now let wilmott and nurmi withdraw.
Nancy Grace is practically hyperventilating, which is annoying in itself, but she’s making it seem as though the entire trial has to be done over. Jodi is guilty of 1st degree murder, and the aggravator was agreed on-that won’t change. All that is to be decided is her sentence. I wonder if Juan will agree to offer her LWOP just to spare the Alexander family more misery and heartache.
And if the Arias family is really touring the Grand Canyon?? WOW! What a total FARCE the daily appearance of Jodi’s mother was.
Amazing! A reporter just said that Sandy Arias is “furious”. That she thought it was a juror question and not a verdict. Donavan Bering is Sandy’s spokesperson apparently. Sandy was at “home” and watched the verdict on tv.
Sandy Arias had better calm down and just thank her lucky damn stars.
I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone – ever. And yes I have thought long and hard about what if it were my family member. I wonder if someone on the jury really has felt this way all along but still sat on the jury.
There was a time when I thought I could sit on a jury with the death penalty as an option and be objective but I know myself better now.
Also just at a new jury will have seen how JA acted – JA will also now know what to say and what not to say – and will be better coached for the next time.
HLN just said jury will NOT talk. Names will be sealed.
i have to say that, for me, DP is just fine………..especially comforting here is knowing that she did do this crime, admits to it………..perhaps seeing death, being with people as they have died as an RN and now, putting animals to sleep, affects me greatly on my perspective. Rare has it been that i ever put an animal down for aggression, but i have had to do this for the safety of others. More often, euthanasia has been a loving choice made to end suffering of an animal in pain. In either case, it is peaceful and always done with a loving hand. Words of love, comforting touch. So I suppose i have difficulty relating to the anxiety that people have about “choosing death”. It is a little strange thinking about putting a human down, but i understand the process medically and that it is easy way to go. I think the worst part for person on death row is simply knowing that “I will die on this day”………I feel for these jurors but am upset that they took oath to follow the law, yet, i cannot understand how they could choose anything but death, if they were following the law..?? perhaps some were battered and could not completely believe that JA truly was not battered..?(loss of objectivity, IMHO)
They have cancelled their press conference. It would be interesting to hear from the people that thought this person was worth redeeming. The person with endearing and redeeming qualities was killed by the person that has none.
There is something positive in this verdict and that is: the people that thought she should get death would not surrender to life.
At least she is STILL stuck with M1 and she will NEVER be able to shake that.
Donavan has called in to Channel 12 to say that the Arias family did not show up because she thought it was just a question, and that Sandi is furious about not being told it was a verdict.
That’s bullshit. She is in the Grand Canyon.
ditto
And Nancy shut ol’ Donovan down. Someone tweet Nancy re: Grand Canyon. (Can you imagine, our daughter’s DP might be coming down the pike, let’s nip over, get a peak at Gran’ Canyon. Could that be a mitigator?) Wow, could that be a mitigator?
July 18th new trial date
I do feel bad for TAs’ family on this day, but I think they will be fine.But I’m going to stop looking at this thing though cause listinening to JVM is like listening to a loud verbal version of The Nat. Enquirer “ragazine”.
The juror names are sealed. They have all declined to speak to the media at this time.
What’s it going to feel like when they try to decompress and turn on the TV to see Ms.Arias on the Merry Andrew ! More blush, please ! What would any of us do after getting home from ALL of that – free to run away. Any thoughts on Juan going to the family, if he is allowed to, getting the plea down to life now ?
That’s why Juan had a little grin, because he’s already planning how best to use all her interviews in the sentencing do-over to graphically illustrate what a waste of space she is.
Yes, this time he can let loose with both barrels blazing. Mr. Martinez will truly be in his element and he will hold very little back.
I am not doing that case.
Me either Peach, just can’t go through this again. The past couple of days have not been pleasant. I feel myself taking on the persona of many of the key players, and not in a good way. In that respect I have apologize much recently for bad language, my attitude and lack of interest in the “real world”. It was fun chatting with you, Justice and Tamara and all her wonderful bloggers.
Don’t go, we’ll all wind down together. TT hinted that she may have some new idea to blog about and then we can all hang around and comiserate together. 🙂
I’m not watching that case, either Peach! I heard a little about it while I was dressing this morning and I think it’s going to get very, very ugly.
New penalty phase means more info and evidence available to prosecution to present to new jury. JA’s media interviews, for example, also tweets, and anything else she hoped to keep hidden during trial.
For those who had hoped for a unanimous decision in favor of the death penalty, this may be the best thing to get the DP. We may be able to surmise that one or more jurors held out against DP, otherwise it would have be a unanimous decision for LWOP.
New jury, in light of all the formerly restricted evidence that will be now available, may not have any qualms in returning the DP.
This live feed is running the local news NBC 12 it’s chock full of info. http://www.wptv.com/generic/news/national/Jodi-Arias-trial-live-video
The juror who mouthed ” I’m sorry” said it to JUAN MARTINEZ” Sheriff Joe says she will remain a closed custody inmate at Estrella (23hrs solitary confinement) per day. NO MORE MEDIA FOR HER.
good. I wonder if one of the jurors found out that they really couldn’t impose death-and I wonder if the NEW jury, having not spent much time with Arias, will be a little more detached and more able to come to a unanimous decision?
Why did Joe change his mind? Was it over the “makeup?”
Donavon on NG. She says we were told that it was just a question. She says, “we” were upset we could not be there. NG calls bullshit. Donavan says they were there all day both days. NG cuts her off and says, “This is not curb service down at the Sonic. ” Cuts her off and goes to break. Donavan lies. She is trying to cover for the fact that JODI’S FAMILY WENT ON THEIR MEMORIAL DAY VACATION TO THE GRAND CANYON AND WERE NOT THERE. um In my humble opinion.
I read absolutely that they were not there yesterday and they did not come today for whatever their reasons are.
Wow. NG just got the crown for the Queen of One Liners today!
I’ m not a NG fan but she got my vote.
hahaha…I changed from NG to the Bruins game but I would have liked to have heard that little exchange!
I was listening to Channel 12 Phx feed looked up and saw graphic “on the phone with Donavan” and rewound to listen. 🙂
seriously…can you imagine touring the Grand Canyon while your daughter is facing a death penalty verdict?? That whole family must be crazy
Who just called in to NG and said the Arias family is very angry!
Jurors have asked for security. So sad. These people did their civic duty. Leave them alone. I will not tolerate trashing the jury here.
Absolutely.
Where are you getting this information?
Media on the scene. They tweet and they were waiting to see if they would be allowed to speak to them. Jury said no. Not now at least.
Thank you, TT. I don’t think I could play that game or read about how bad the jury is.
I agree TT. These jurors did their job they just couldn’t agree. I can’t imagine the immense pressure they felt. I have complete respect and compassion for them.
Jurors deserve security…absolutely, but good Lord, this was incredibly disappointing. I think that the hold out/s of this jury will be sure to regret their stance. Travis’ Killer was convicted of Murder in the 1st degree, half the battle is complete. Travis’ Killer should be careful what she wishes for….I feel so much for the Alexander family but can’t help but think things will work out down the road…let’s be patient, Everything happens for a reason..
Exactly Sabrina, thats what i keep thinking everything happens for a reason. This wasnt the jury that was meant to give her death or life, the next will be. We cant forget she is still a convicted murderer!!
So happy to hear you say that! I had already promised myself that if the comments turned nasty against the jurors I would stop reading the posts.
These jurors devoted the past six months of their lives to this trial. Though I am disappointed in how it turned out, I respect and honor their decision.
My heart breaks for the Alexander family. I pray they can find some peace.
Tamara, I must apologize to you and the jury. I kinda trashed them in an earlier post. I guess I was too wrapped up in watching the total look of disbelieve and hurt on Travis’s family and friends. My heart just broke at that moment, and my brain was filled with the same blackness that I believe lives in Jodi’s soul. I lashed out and I truly apologize.
I get it. It’s an emotional time.
Good for you.
I can’t believe its a hung jury. But I want to say that the jury did their job. They did the best they could do! Our system worked. All 12 have to agree with the decision. I hope some of the jurors will talk to see what happened and where they stand. I’m also interested to see there pictures. Especailly I think juror 16 the one who looks like Jodi’s mother. She was crying and looking down. I wonder if she was the hung person. I know most of them look tired. They have been here for 6 months doing their job. Even the judge couldn’t talk. I didn’t think she would do that. I feel really bad for Travis’s family. I think it will be hard to find 12 new jurors who have no clue about this case. Maybe Juan will do so a plea deal?
I’m sad, too, that this goes on for the Alexanders. I’m reassured, however, that they have a 1st degree premeditated, felony, aggravated murder conviction & that they have Juan Martinez. In my heart of hearts, I hope the family is surrounded by the very best advocates & support people &, after some time has passed, are, yes, able to say to Juan,”let’s go for Life Without Parole.” It’s time for Arias to just be gone… wherever… just gone from the main stage of their lives.
I know a lot of ppl are upset because it is a hung jury, but i think Juan will come back a million times stronger and ready to go! I still have faith 🙂
I agree, looking forward to Juan 2.0. He’s going to squash her like a cockroach.
Absolutely so do i Gwen.
como la cucaracha de perryville del diablo
Usted de-edifica a la cucaracha!!
I forgot to add… NG should’ve asked Donavan, why she continues to associate with a convicted felon, when she is on probation?!
um, i think donovan bering associates with JA = because she’s probably in love with JA.
I am sorry but these people holding car washes and missing their daughter’s prom and driving from TX etc, to be in or outside court are LEGALLY INSANE. Or attn whores or both.
lol just said something similar, which I thought was too snarky. Glad I’m not alone TT
Flew in from New Jersey, for petesake. Must be nice. Must be GOLFERS! (And no one home to coo over the prom dress & pull the vodka bottle outta the pant leg?! Now, that’s over-investment!)
Yeah, when I heard about some of the stories I just shook my head. Everyone, including everyone here on the blog, needs to take care of their own first and foremost. That also means enjoying our holiday weekends. It’s parents who pay more attention to these court cases who end up raising more little Jodies. So let’s send out lots of love to Travis’s family and then give our own families even more love! Enjoy all the freedom that Jodi will never ever have again! Don’t let this case eat our souls. Jodi’s claimed enough already.
Our holiday was last weekend. Victoria Day… sigh. You make good points, P & V!
Aww, thanks, Jane!
I know we’re all obsessed but…is anyone else a little taken aback watching members of the general public crying because of the hung jury in the penalty phase? And that one lawyer standing with JVM with the WILD hair really needs a comb! Or some creme rinse…
Not me. I have been trying to point out people are over invested HERE and THERE for several days…. I think I may have pissed off the over invested…
no worries TT. I feel for the Alexander family but the lack of a unanimous verdict won’t ruin my weekend. Hope that doesn’t sound cruel but thankfully this verdict isn’t about me or mine and I refuse to make it so
I really don’t get that people would show up crying and or cheering at the courthouse. I find it really bizarre. For the past few days I have been increasingly disgusted by the mob mentality and some of the HLN reporters. I’m getting really pissed about people saying the jurors didn’t do their jobs. They did and I can’t imagine how hard it was for them not to agree on DP or Life.
You and me both.
JESUS CHRIST ON A POGO STICK! NG cannot even pronounce Voir Dire. I just can’t with her.
Every one of my law professors pronounces it a different way so I’m gonna go ahead and give ol’Nancy a pass this time!
You had some stupid law professors. It’s a French term and there is only one proper pronunciation.
Also, this whole Allen/dynamite charge thing is moot. It happens during guilt phase NOT during sentencing phase and has also been struck down by AZ. Lots of idiots practicing law.
funny, FIRST, i say “Jesus Christ on a bicycle” and people look at me like: “saywhat??”…………..next, as i came home from having supper with my main squeeze, i approach my property gate which i have to manually open and then drive through, then close and park……………….well SHIT, there is a snake tapering ever so slowly along, beside inside and outside of my gate for like 5 minutes………….my impatience with its slow pace led me to “touch touch” with a stick, and dont ya know, the little BITCH still would not pick up her pace………..a little freaky on a quiet, dark and humid southern night all alone……………….wonder who she was representing??? maybe nightmares tonight…………..oh, and then i let the dogs out!!! LOL
Please, it’s driving us positively NUTS up here… is that a Georgia accent or just a Nancyism? Surely, the law school profs aren’t all teaching that pronunciation. Let the meaning guide you, let the meaning guide you!
You know I am from Georgia. You are going to have to trust when I say I can pronounce it. 🙂
Georgia is one of THE most beautiful places I’ve seen. (But we cannot have Nancy passing on vwarre dyer or vwahare deerrr to The Twins. I swear to god my ear & mouth can’t even produce what she’s saying. But we’re having a laugh & that counts right now.)
Tamara – I humbly ask you if you’ll be the Hostess to our therapy sessions ?? 🙁
hugs. I suppose the silver lining is we will be talking about this for a long time? I need to get back to my regular readers, who have likely abandoned me… and try to pretend like The Real Housewives is a worthy thing to post about. Something that has caused me angst for month. I do have some good sources for that, and it is of course lighter and better for my psyche… but it’s going to be a hard change of gears.
I’ll have a post here every day for the Trial folks I promise. My only condition is we will NOT be covering Trayvon Martin.
How about……RHOTB…….”Real Housewives of Tamara’s Blog”? Now that would be one exciting blog!!
totally agee on Trayvon issue!
So glad to hear it. I won’t be able to take that trial. If there’s ever a case that’s going to bring out a whole lot of ugly, it’s that one.
On the Travvon Martin issue… I agree – you shouldn’t. To much controversy there.
The Trayvon has driven many a sane crime blogger to shut down their pages for good. I gave up trying to discuss it anywhere. People are nuts about this case. N.U.T.S. If you want to stay sane, don’t do it TT!
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I honestly wish I could with you guys.., but I think I will choose to avoid.
I would like to do Andrea Scheniderman with you though. Meanwhile We will have a daily JA thread here for months.
Has Dr.Drew taken a stupid pill? You would think he would recognize a psychopath.
Pinsky can be such an unforgivable ninny at times. I think he’s compromised up to his teeth. I can be highly opinionated on this subject, so I’ll just…
Why no interest in covering the Trayvon Martin case. I think that is a shaping up to really be interesting. ANd you would do an excellent job if your coverage of this case is any indication.
In a way I think that case will be more interesting becasue it is not as clear cut.
No, I’m so glad to hear you’re gonna give that warped vigilante Zimmerman a miss. You are right you/we need to switch gears to maintain sanity. Didn’t you mention something about Hadid vs. Stallone coming up soon? Love to follow that one.
Oh and do you ever watch RHOVancouver? (Not actually on right now, airs jan-mar, I think). But there’s an evil, crazy bitch named Jody on that show I despise so much I’m this close to boycotting, but maybe one more season.
Do a search on Vancouver. Upper right box. Never saw the series.
TT. You Rule. I love the site and the folk here and while I am dissapointed that there wasn’t closure for the Alexanders I have great hope that JUAN will come back, renewed, and wreak HAVOC on the forces of evil (Jodi and her minions). Selfishly, I will look forward to the always fun give and take with everyone here on TT. I never did this before and I am thankful. GOSH.
Ah-h-h ! ~ I was hoping you’d consider – if not just for a little while. I’ve grown to like everybodies face. (lol) I’ve got a great idea for a thread tucked away in the corner – call it – > The Side Bar. ~ No Shots, All Talk ! < – I actually don't know how you can keep track of these folks on TV, I know I can't. I have a few regular favorites, since resigned from politics, I spend far too much time spinning out instead of reading, & doing my artwork. ~ Blogging with you & the rest of your guests have been an intelligent, exciting, & sometimes frightening first experince for me. Telescoping how far your right jab is – was the hardest part. 🙂 (9 Italian Uncles = Lots of boxers) – I bet there will be plenty of hindsights & wrangling to come, but most of all… there will be plenty of good ol' fashioned PTSD abound, enough for everybody. ~ Drinks Up – to you ! ~ Salute' !
Troy is saying that he talked to Sandy and she says she never left town. Perhaps not. But I am not sure I believe her. Her daughter Angela facebooked that her Mom gets on her nerves while she is at the Grand Canyon. Sure it could have been her on the phone, but if her mom was there waiting, why would she not show up for questions if only to see how her daughter was doing? Every single Alexander family member was there for every question.
Thank god for Beth Karas – she is the voice of reason. The Alexanders DID win the Big 2. Either way Jodi Arias goes away for good. ~ Thx, Beth
Amen!
I really respect Beth Karas, too – she has a good head on her shoulders and doesn’t get overly emotional – just tells it like it is. Speaking of the Alexanders winning the first 2 rounds – NG had Attorney Alex Sanchez as a guest on her show last night. Maybe you watched it? He said, “Let’s clarify something…….Jodi Arias won, Juan Martinez lost.” What the fuck did JA win? – The rest of her life in a hell hole of a prison with other women as nasty and evil as herself. She may have won round 3, for now, but JM certainly didn’t lose. (not in most people’s eyes) I guess we’ll all have to wait a few more months to see how round 3 plays out.
For those who think I am too nice, or too mean or whatever… I am all about supporting the justice system in this country. And I called one of our UK readers, a cunt. So there is that. 🙂 Always scroll to the bolded comments from me for my outbursts. 🙂
Agreed TT. I keep telling myself they are lying…they HAD TO be in AZ anyway for something else right?
..sorry, that was a comment regarding the trial watchers. I’m not getting emails from this blog, maybe my phone is wacky. I don’t think you are too nice or too mean, TT. I like your discussion style. : )
well, TT, i will scroll down, but i already know i fully support your response!! you go! not too nice, not too mean, just RIGHt (said the little bear)
No I was mean… but I tried scrolling down and did not see it. Someone from the UK…,
Sorry finally found it. I did not bold it because it was not relevant but a rant. but it is way down on the right and I bolded it now. Someone from the UK saying our justice system has failed and it just set me off.
You are awesome and so are almost all your commenters. 🙂 I wish it could be like FB and I could just go down the line and hit “Like” for every comment.
(O dear & we were all doing sooo very well re: the self-restraint earlier on. And, now, the cunts are flying. That’s okay. My husband’s laughing, heading out the door to play soccer. Thinks we all need a brew & that Arias should be dragged through a hedge backwards. Alrighty then… i just scroll down, now, & try to figure out what the hell happened.)
heh. The cunts are flying here at someone from the UK disparaging our system and implying it failed.
Well the Brits might want to take a look at their own track record. Anyway, my soccer player is a Scot off the boat & he applauds the term & says you just have at her. For petesake, they’ve got a Prince Charming who fantasies he’s a tampon. I rest my case. (Gosh, I’m practically a lawyer! Voir dire au Canada!)
My goodness…….all this time I’ve thought “cunt” was one of those moderated words! Now it seems to be flying all over North America and beyond. How would you say cunt in French, Jane?………s’il vous plait
I think the worst way…. is salude… but I will defer to the French Canookinans…
OK so the first thing the jurors need to do is get restraining orders out against JVM. Gawd.
OMG JVM and others HARASSED JUROR NUMBER NINE ALL THE WAY TO HIS ATTEMPT TO GET HOME. What a bitch.
LOL. she made one of her producers get on the rapid transit with the juror. I just keep going back to the same thought, the whole thing is so damn bizarre!
Maybe there’s nothing to it but maybe the rest of the jury didn’t want him on the bus with them.
oh stop. This was him saying I am going home. On my own accord.
I just saw that. That woman is totally crazy.
Jeez, this sounds really appalling… I stepped away for a minute or two & missed the whole thing. Am I wrong or is JVM exposing some major inconsistencies/hypocrisies in her principles?
(Sorry not to be catching up in the right place, but if anyone’s willing, “What the fuck happened!)
How much do you all wanna bet that Jodi crying today in court was because she found out that she will be banned from any future interviews? LOL!
I hope.
hmmm very interesting point. I did lip read, “they have to right?”
After some thought, perhaps JA was crying because she was told after trial today she would be going to be separated from the general population for 23 hours a day! That would certainly upset her!!
Jodi is already in closed custody and has been since getting off suicide watch. THat means 23 hours a day locked up. fed in cell one hour out a day 5-6 days a week.
Please reconsider covering the Trayvon Martin case. You did an excellent job with this case and in many ways that case will have some interesting aspects as it will not be so clear cut as this case was.
I’m sorry this site has the words, race, racism and racist banned from comments. It was brought up in THIS CASE. It is brought up about random TV shows and I cannot go through a trial based on that. Everyone likes to label in those situations. My family like many others has intermarried with people from many other countries. Some are of a different race. I can’t do the Zimmerman case. It’s too hard. I will say that I woke up the other morning thinking that I should do it and I could heavily moderate comments. This case has been trying. I think my love for the commenters here may make me reconsider.
I’ve had to fight like a bitch to keep race out of here and I am not sure I can do it again. I tried to go uncensored during the Richard Hinds Trial here http://s17948.p858.sites.pressdns.com//?s=tokyo&search=Go and it did not go well…
I’m sure you’re right and it would probably be very draining for you to moderate posts …and that thought depresses me. I keep hoping that race won’t be such a divisive issue in this country, but this trial probably isn’t going to be the best thing to cure that.
IF you change your mind about covering it, I promise to be here and on my best behavior.
Hope you’re going to cover the Andrea Sneidermsn case
I likely will.
Having taught in a small town, I have sometimes taught 3 generations of the same family, I simply am not up to going through either side’s racist comments. I really feel like I have been close to hell with the JA case. I cannot be a part of what is about to happen. You know, something like man’s inhumanity to man sorta thing. Now, Andrea Sneiderman is a different thing. She’s a brighter uglier JA.
Geez, I almost feel sorry for JA hearing this!
A video on YouTube by Carl ToersBinjs…former deputy warden at Perryville..called Jodi Arias rose colored glasses.
wow he is a creep.
Rose……….. I think if JA listened to this video she’d be begging for the DP!
I agree, Bobbi! Made me shudder listening to the things he said. JA is up the creek without a paddle…no two ways about it!
Found this on the JustifyTravis twitter.
Statement from the county attorney…JM’s boss!
“We appreciate the jury’s work in the guilt and aggravation phases of the trial and now we will assess, based upon available information, what the next steps will be.”
Hmmm..wonder what that means? Another trial for the penalty phase? A plea?
Here is the ENTIRE statement made by the county attorney.
County Attorney Comments on Outcome in State v. Jodi Ann Arias
PHOENIX, AZ (May 23, 2013) – Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery released the following statement in response to the lack of a unanimous decision in the penalty phase of State v. Jodi Ann Arias:
“We appreciate the jury’s work in the guilt and aggravation phases of the trial and now we will assess, based upon available information, what the next steps will be. As of this point in time, the Court has set a Status Conference for June 20 and we will proceed with the intent to retry the penalty phase. Because, for purposes of a jury determination on punishment, this is still a pending matter, there will be no further comment.”
For all of us… Sound the bugle !
UP & Adam – ARIAS !! – Open your eyes, stand up straight, legs & feet together, knock that smile of your block… and…oh yeah, Wipe that GD war paint off your face – You’re the New Fish – NOW ! [maybe now We can get ‘some’ work done]
After Dark announced the split last night: It was 8 to 4 but NO clues which way.
Did I miss something? What is going on with those feet of hers? Is she missing toes?
I was waiting for someone to mention that. I have no idear.
When I saw the photo I figured that is what the story was about! I searched for more photos of her feet but cant find any.
Holy No Toes, ~ Cat Women !! – Imagine if the camera would have caught THAT stocking foot dragging down the hallway !! I stared at this the other day and I was looking at one of those “find the upside dog” in the tree branches drawings. – I couldn’t figure out what I was/n’t looking at. fyi: your smallest toes balance most of the weight shifting ! Are they missing — ? Looks like it.
Gol-lee net! Not only are some of the wee fellies missing, but all appear rearranged w/ the big toe in the middle. Couldn’t possibly be a lighting issue. Do you suppose THIS is the mitigation factor? I think Abby’s correct: the whole story might begin right here.
Get a grip, people. Looks like she’s just wiggling them right at that moment.
It’s what you say plus Rembrandt lighting casting deep shadow. (It is a peculiar photo… just a bit of jesting in comments, I think. No harm intended.)
Jane, yes, funny, and soon we will have to go cold turkey and begin remotely obsessing about someone else…
Someone wild, but wonderful… someone debatable, of course, but not so soul-crushing, don’t you think?
Cold turkey is right! Hilariously funny or deeply troubling this ass over ears posting? Hmmm… ?
Maybe we could taper? (Though I hear it doesn’t work.)
🙂
She’s the one that wanted to “censor” any photos from waist down, specificly her cuff, shackles, stipes, and those god awful flip flopper. I can’t keep the kind on if they don’t have a big toe seperator. Downward, and onward…
Probably difficult to run in them, climb, kick other inmates…
Jane, Methadone Jodi? I hear it doesn’t work, either. I’d rather she was locked away in her cell and throw away the key until her fate is decided. It was really nice when we didn’t have to hear about Casey Anthony for about 2 years.
JA is a fascinating study of human nature and her warped mental gymnastics. In some ways, I can’t wait to see what she does/says next. Too bad someone had to die in the process in order to give all of us voyeurs a glimpse inside a very arrogant, manipulative individual.
Personally, I’m spending my summer in the garden communing with the flowers.
I missed a lot. (I confess when I am swamped with comments I skim the regulars and moderate the first timers. Don’t tell) So what’s the methadone thing?
Also, I wish we had a flower post…lol. My commenters are already abandoning me for going so far afield with my Jodi followers… so alas.. But I will squeeze in here that I have not been feeling up to doing my usual garden just yet… but I am trying carrots for the first time. Have a few sprouting in the yard which is miraculous because I just used my dump and pray method. I just moments ago sprinkled a few on wet paper towel shoved them in a plastic bag and put them in er…what is left of my kitchen window. Don’t ask. Glass Doctor visits tomorrow. 🙂
JA trial withdrawal…
Bought a small 6 x 6 greenhouse last week. Tired of running trays of annuals in and out of the house every evening until the weather settles down and decides to stay warm.
Tomato plants get decimated by hail by weird summer storms coming down from the mountains, so now they will stay warm and be protected. First tomato eaten will have a price tag of $1000.00, second will be $500.00, and so on.
Will try carrots for the first time this year. Will let you know how it goes…
LOL at the 1K maters. I was telling myself the same thing, mostly because I am lazy….It would be way cheaper to just get up on Sat morning and go to the farmers market and eat someone elses… But then what would I have to bitch about all summer? I have a mid June birthday and always take a trip and my tomatoes plants are huge. This year I don’t even have anything in the ground. I may cheat and buy ONE of those already fruiting plants full of pesticides… or not.
The carrots took so long to sprout I had given up. We recently had a week on monsoons, and VOILA! I believe those are carrot tops. Maybe. lol.
Less heartbreaking to buy an already large tomato plant. I have neighbours who nurture and baby along their itty-bitty tomato plants, but in the meantime, I have tomatoes just about ready to pick. Neighbours are probably shaking their imaginary fists at me over the fence.
Some news item recently exposed some sellers at Farmer’s Markets going to local grocery stores and buying stock for their stalls, nicely marked up of course, and a sign that reads “Certified Organic”. Can’t trust anyone anymore…
“This little piggy went to prison” / “This little piggy stayed forever” / “This little piggy had stale bread” / “This little piggy had no fun” / “And this little piggy went Wee! Wee! Wee! all the way to hell”
Sandra, If you can wiggle your last 3 toes to disappear like that would you send us a photo of it ? 🙂 I mean I get cramps in my bunions for Ch__st’s sake – when I try that. Could she curl them under ? – I can’t do THAT either. – Nimble ? Notice it isn’t the “stocking foot” in the photo of her dragging his body either. Lucky her !… Oh wait a minute… she confessed ! Still – for all those blinking their eyes twice, – Hummm. The rest of you – Wiggle on ! I still think her boney, skiny finger is double-jointed but it never came up either.
Perhaps not all of her hidden talents were on photographic display at the trial. Maybe her toes are as long and bony as her fingers and she can tie them up in a bow, or play the piano with them.
i woke up at 4am this morning thinking about the trial and JA again. and it occurred to me: perhaps JA really will actually become the abused woman and suffer from PTSD that she claimed while on trial – – once she actually starts serving her sentence with the general population in a real prison vs. the insulated little jail she’s been in to date…karma baby doll. karma.